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How C.S. Lewis Helped Me Leave the Church

Julie Season 2 Episode 2

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It's another field trip! Pack a water bottle and a first-aid kit.

Take the Bus from Hell to Heaven with our brave cohosts. In this episode, Julie discusses how The Great Divorce, started her on a path out of the church. (Probably not the author's intent, but this podcast is rife with unintended consequences, as evidenced by the lives of the hosts.)

Along the way, Julie and Jarad rescue Crowley, discuss the importance being able to consider other viewpoints, and explore whether God is more like your granddad or a big, dark void. They also manage to get off at a few wrong bus stops on the way back.


Sources: The Great Divorce, by C.S. Lewis


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Hosted by Julie Price Carpenter and Jarad Johnson.

Podcast artwork by Carmen Jones; intro, intermission and outro music by Essie Lee; episode artwork by Julie Carpenter; this is a production of Sacred Chickens.

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This podcast has adult language and topics and stories related to Hell and the devil. We occasionally discuss death, suicide, and other unpleasant topics, usually related to religion, folklore or mythology.