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What is Presence? Healing from Attachment and Aversion (EP19)

• OLIVIA FRAZAO

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What is presence? What is attunement? What is pain versus suffering? What is spiritual bypass? How to heal from spiritual bypass? How to be more present? How to heal humanity? What is humanity's core woudning? 

What do all these Q's have in common? In this episode we map out the wounds of attachment and aversion and look at how they show up in the psyche, relationships, our culture, and our spiritual practice. We then look at how attachment and aversion also have the potentiality to reveal gifts that can bring us into presence. 

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3:54 - Hands Metaphor

4:58 - Attachment/Merging/Suffering vs Aversion/Avoidance

9:14 - Examples in the Psyche

10:45 - Examples in Relationship (Attachment Theory

12:01 - Examples in Culture (Masculine/Feminine dynamics)

15:36 - Examples in Spirituality (Spiritual Bypass)

21:54 - The Gifts Within the Wounds (Witnessing Self and Contact)

24:26 - 4 Quadrants Mapping

25:31 - Skills for true Presence

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For those who like maps:

Upper left quadrant: Attachment/Merging

Bottom left quadrant: Contact / Interconnection

Upper right quadrant: Aversion/Avoidance

Bottom right quadrant: Witnessing self / Transcendence

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Where we have that awareness of the transcendent nature of self and reality, and we hold that, we keep that. We keep our witnessing self online and as we are, everything that we are, we are in such intimate contact with the details of physical life, with the intricacies of relationship, with the difficulties that we are in responsibility to show up for. That's what I'm calling presence, that's what I'm calling presence, which is a combination of contact and witnessing self. Welcome to the Ground of Love. I'm your host, Olivia Frazao. This is a podcast for people who are deeply dedicated to the spiritual journey. You are here for self-growth care, for others, and being of service to the world. This podcast is in service to you to help you remember who you are and why you are here, you will receive inspiration, clarity, and no BS Love. We are walking each other home. Let's begin. Today we are going to be talking about the number one wound of humanity, and in healing that wound we are looking at. The most important thing that the world needs. The reason I'm calling this the number one wound, is because all other wounds exist within this framework. So what is the number one wound of humanity? What is the core problem that we are all experiencing in human form? Okay. My guess is, you probably said the word separation, so that's what I'm talking about here, but we're talking about specifics. What does separation look like through a human psyche and what is the healing of this? What is the spiritual awakening process where we can actually experience the opposite of separation, which would be presence, what I'm calling presence. You could say unity. I'm going to be using the word presence here for a reason. When we are in separation, what are we separate from? What are we distanced from? We are distanced from being fully present with what is. So we are gonna be looking at what is presence, and what does this experience of separation look like we're gonna make a map we're gonna take separation, and we're gonna look at it in two forms of itself. It's gonna be a binary, and they're both gonna be two extremes. And I'm gonna use the Buddhist terms to define them. These two extremes. One is going to be attachment or grasping, and the other one is going to be aversion. Okay? Those are the two opposite ends of the binary. Both of which are the experience of separation, both of which are wound experiences. So I said there was one wound, but I'm actually breaking it into two right now. Because they happen in relation with each other. It's one mechanism. Okay. And I'm gonna explain this in a moment. now with this binary, what I'm gonna do is map on so many different levels of our experience onto that same binary. We're gonna look at the psychological experience of that binary, the cultural experience of that binary, the spiritual experience of that binary. The relational experience of that binary. And you can start seeing within yourself, how do I fall into separation and how can I come back into presence, Okay, so we're gonna break this down imagine for a moment, you have your hands in the prayer position and your, your palms are touching each other. So that's contact, that's presence, that's what we're calling being in the here now. Together with each other, with the moment. Okay, now separate your hands apart and there's a gap between them. Separate them quite a bit. And now one hand is actually gonna go down towards the ground and the other is gonna go up towards the sky. Okay? The one that's down towards the ground is going to be attachment or grasping. The one that's up towards the sky is gonna be the one called aversion. Now this binary is experienced in any other wound that you see. It fits somewhere inside of this binary. So we're calling this like mother mechanism where anything else is included somewhere in this map. Let's start giving some examples so this gets a little more tangible. Let's say you are. Having a good time. Everything is easy and simple and you're happy. And then something happens where there is a difficulty, when that difficulty happens, so there's some kind of stimulus that shows up, we gonna have a reaction to it. Now, there are two main ways, as I'm defining this binary, that we can have this reaction. The first way is we can fall into. The pain of the event we're gonna get sucked in. Okay? Some people call that being over identified with experience. We're gonna fall into the pain. And we're gonna kind of become the pain or let the pain become us. We're gonna get flooded. Okay, this is reaction number one. When we're flooded, there is this feeling of being inside of the experience. There's no longer a witnessing self watching what's going on, having one foot out. We have both feet in, we've jumped into this painful experience and we're now merged with it. Okay. So this is what I'm calling attachment, grasping, merging over identification. Now I'm giving more words to it because depending on what your training is, you have a different way of defining this. Okay, so there's an overwhelm. What is the second type of reaction? The second type of reaction is actually not a reaction to the event itself, but it's a reaction to the first reaction. That we have to the event. It's a reaction to falling in. Being afraid of falling in or anticipating, oh my God, I'm about to fall in and I don't want to, and thus I'm gonna go to reaction number two. What's reaction number two? Aversion. It's the hand that's further up, so the hand that's further down, you're falling into the problem. Okay. And what is pain versus suffering? Pain is simply, this hurts. Suffering is this hurts and this is all that is. I am this. This is full reality. It's an immersion into the pain where there's nothing else besides the pain. Our mental, emotional, spiritual landscape, our identity and our spiritual reality are all within the experience of pain. That's what suffering is, right? That's what the first experience is. The one that you've fallen into the trap of pain and now you're suffering, right? So, as we said, in order for that to not happen, we tend to have, or some people tend to have to different degrees. A second reaction, which is, I don't want to suffer. So I'm actually gonna do the opposite. Rather than falling into the problem, I'm gonna run from it. I'm gonna distance myself so far from this thing that I'm not gonna feel it. So that's what we're calling aversion. Okay? And I'm putting it high up because there's this feeling of wanting to transcend the problem, whereas the other one I put low down'cause it's like you're falling into it, right? You're, you're landing in the muck. The other one is you're gonna fly away. That's why I'm doing it higher up. There were some other episodes where I was talking about the patriarchy. You can go back and look at those where I was talking about the castle in the sky. The castle in the sky is one example of the experience of aversion on a cultural level. Okay? For those of you who've listened to that episode, if you haven't, I would recommend it. So now we're at the second reaction. The first one happens, the second one happens in reactivity to the first. Oh my God, I'm about to fall into this thing. It's gonna suck me in it. I fall in, I'm not gonna be okay, and I'm not gonna know how to get out. In that case, I'm running away. I'm distancing myself. I don't wanna deal with it. I'm gonna put this in somebody else's hands, or, I don't want to think about this right now. Or literally walking out of the room or hanging up the phone. Something that creates some kind of a separation from contact. We're ending contact, or we are avoiding it happening in the first place. Okay. Okay, now let's look at this binary in a couple examples. Let's look at psychologically, okay, what is the experience of falling too deep into pain? And what is the experience of running away from pain? Depression is the one where you fall in, you get sucked in and you have trouble coming out. Now I would need a longer episode in order to explain why I am putting this here, but just go with me right now the one in relation to aversion or running away is actually anxiety. Now there's one that's even more extreme. Which will probably make more sense for this example, which is dissociation. Dissociation is when you're literally no longer connected to the current experience. You're checked out. And these are trauma responses. This isn't chosen. These are immediate reactions of the psyche. Now, please be aware that everything that I'm saying here, none of this is a judgment. I'm simply naming what happens in our human experience and when we know. What our experience is, we can start understanding how it can heal, and what our life can and will look like as we start cultivating more capacity for presence. I'm not gonna look at the healing of depression, anxiety, and dissociation in this episode right now. I'm just mapping things out, otherwise, I could talk for hours about any of these things. Let's look at relationship, the level of relationship. Here, now I am gonna talk about attachment theory, there's a specific language in attachment theory that I'm about to use to talk about this binary. In attachment theory, the low down hand, in an attachment relationship, this is the person who has an anxious attachment style, right? What does that mean for those who haven't studied this? This is the person who is generally chasing after the other partner. Okay? It's the archetype of being more needy or wanting to be connected all the time, or sometimes having trouble being on your own and always wanting to be with someone else. Some type of maybe enmeshment. Relationally. Okay. As you can expect on the other side of the spectrum, now we're talking about the hand that's further up, the aversion side of things. This is the person with an avoidant attachment style, right? This is the person who feels safer being alone than in connection with somebody else. This is someone who, when things get tough, they tend to leave a relationship or leave the room or the conversation. They feel smothered easily, and then they want distance, right? That's the relational side of this map. Now, let's look on a cultural level. Our culture tends to actually get stuck in both of these very easily. I am gonna use the words masculine and feminine in a very, very specific way for this episode. It can mean many other things in many other contexts. I'm just using it for ease right now for us to understand how our cultural wounds have set up a lot of judgment with regards to the sexes through this binary. So on a wound level, what would be the feminine wound or the wound that people would usually say about someone who identifies as a woman? Oh, you're so overly emotional. You're so dramatic. Those tend to be phrases that people say towards women. What does that mean? Usually it's said by a man or by someone who is holding what I'm later gonna define as the more masculine role. Looking at someone who is very deeply embedded in some kind of a painful experience and probably having trouble holding boundary rationality. Self-control or distance from that experience. Right? It's a judgmental way of expressing that someone else is in what I was calling that attachment side of the binary, right? Merged with experience overly suffering and having difficulty getting a breath in. So that is a judgmental way of seeing, because we are living in a patriarchal culture. We're living in a culture that values separation from pain. And so the other side is aversion. That's the masculine side. That's a side that was just speaking as a judgment towards the feminine side. What is the masculine side? The masculine wound here is the experience of absence. It is also the experience of being overly rational or overly intellectual. So the feminine side, the side that falls into painful experience and might have trouble getting out is the"overly emotional side". The masculine side is so afraid of emotion and is so afraid of pain, and is so afraid of getting stuck in the muck, that there is a distancing, there's an absenting, there's a turning away, and there's actually also a sense of condescension towards those who are deeply embedded in experience. There is a sense of arrogance on the masculine side saying, look at me. I'm so clean. Look at me, I'm so above all of this. So there's the arrogance that goes with this overly rational, overly intellectual side. And that is what we see in our culture, that the rational, logical mind is valued over the emotional side of things, and along with it, what you would call somatic experience, intuitive experience. Here we're seeing how our culture is a patriarchal culture. So the culture itself is valuing one side of the binary over the other. Remember, these are both wounds. This is a culture that identifies itself with the wound of the hand that's higher up, the wound of the aversion side of the binary Here's where it gets very dangerous if it wasn't already. Spirituality, the goal of spirituality is to get us out of our cultural wounding and out of our psychological wounding. And out of our relational wounding. The problem is that we need to get really honest with the fact that every spiritual path, every spiritual teacher, every spiritual practitioner is experiencing their spirituality within their culture. We're experiencing our spirituality within our psyche. We're experiencing our spirituality within the culture of whatever lineage, whatever religion, whatever spiritual community we're in. How is that culture affecting our spirituality? So we just talked about how we are in a patriarchal culture that is experiencing this wound, that has these two binaries and that is living identified in one of them as if it were a positive thing and is judging the other side. Now how might this show up in our spirituality? Let's take a look. First of all, someone who is not on a spiritual path at all, is going to be where the hand is lower down. What does that mean? Someone who is not experiencing a spiritual path is going to be fully identified with material reality and fully identified with the egoic identity. Okay? That's a merged experience. There's no witnessing self. There's no awareness that I am greater than that. Or that reality is beyond what I'm currently seeing and experiencing. So someone who's living within a materialist and physicalist billiard ball's, Newtonian view of the world is automatically in an experience of being. In what I'm calling the attached side of the binary. Why? Because you are literally identified, fully identified with physicality as reality itself rather than having a witnessing self where your identity and your understanding of reality is greater than what you're experiencing through the five senses. Now. Does that mean that spirituality is the other side of the binary? No, but if we're not careful, we might think that it is, and this is where a lot of people get caught. So what would be the other side of the binary? It would be the experience of transcendence. It would be the experience of, oh my God, I'm more than my body. Wow. Reality is more than what I see or was previously perceiving. And that aha moment creates the capacity for a witnessing self. That's fantastic. We want that. However, some people, because our culture and our psyche are not fully healed, our culture and our psyche are gonna infuse themselves upon that process of transcendence. And we're gonna get stuck in a warped version of it, which is called spiritual bypass. We're gonna get stuck in arrogance. We're gonna get stuck in hyper intellectualizing our spirituality. We're gonna get stuck in thinking that transcendence means not showing up for the difficulties of life and actually being present where we're needed and where we need to be of service and where we're called into relationship. So there's gonna be an absenting in the experience of spiritual bypass. There is spirituality as an excuse to experience aversion and say that it's a positive thing because it's a spiritual thing. Whereas actually you're just acting out your tendencies of aversion now under the guise of spirituality. So if you're someone who tends to be avoidant in relationships, remember we were talking about attachment theory. There's the anxious side and the avoidance side. The anxious side, to remind you when we're looking at attachment theory, is the one that's like more needy, more graspy. Okay. The avoidance side of attachment theory is someone who has trouble with intimacy sometimes, or a lot of the time. If you're someone who tends to run that pattern relationally, take a look at how you might be using your spirituality to kind of be a cover for that or an excuse for that, or a validation for that. That's a trap. Now let's look at the psychological or cultural experience. There are some people who tend to get really caught into things, and there are some people who are always trying to fly above it. What's your vibe? What do you tend to do when things get difficult? Do you tend to crumble on the floor and cry, or do you tend to try to rationalize your way out of it? Do you tend to. Get really overly involved, or do you tend to use some type of excuse that might look or sound healthy? Oh, I need my boundaries, or This isn't my problem, or I have other things I need to deal with, or I can't handle this right now and thus I'm not gonna think about it. Where might you be using your spirituality to validate a turning away? That actually is a level of avoidance. So to finish this category of spirituality, how do we know if we're running a pattern of spiritual bypass besides checking if that's already in our personality, because it is in our culture. So already be aware of that. And is it also in your personality?'cause if so, now you have a double down of this issue potentially. Another question you can ask is, what are you afraid of? Or what are you running from? And here we need to get really honest with ourselves.'cause it's easier to have blind spots because arrogance is a part of aver remember? So it can be easy to say, no, no, I'm fine. Everything's great. I feel perfect. Why? Because you're so far away. You're flying gajillions of miles above earth. You can't feel the winds of what's going on down there in the storm anyway. Right? So we need, as we get to the healing of this, we need what a witnessing self, which that transcendence actually does allow for. And we need contact with ourselves, each other, the given moment, our responsibilities and earth life. So now we're finally getting to the healing of all this. Now, the two opposite ends of the binary. attachment and aversion, These two extremes. Are two wound reactions. Each of these experiences are a distorted version of something deep inside each of them that actually has beauty and power. So there is a coherent gift. That each of those ways of being actually has access to, if it is experienced in a clean way, if it is experienced, not as an extreme, but in a more clean version of itself. So let me talk about what those are. Someone who tends to, let's say, fall down into the muck. Someone who tends to over identify with experience, someone who tends to feel all the feels and sometimes get a little too wrapped up into it. What does this person who falls into all this suffering? Actually have as a gift. What is this pattern? What is it holding as a gift? It's holding contact now in, in this case, it's a little bit too much contact, right? We are getting sucked in by the contact we are becoming whatever it is that we're contacting. But the gift here is that we are capable of contact. That's the gift. We're gonna come back to that. Okay. Let's look at the gift of the other side. The person who runs away, who doesn't wanna deal, et cetera. What is the gift that is somewhere inside. Somewhere in potentiality behind the wound, right? Because it's being expressed in an unclean way. But what's the clean thing somewhere in there that this person actually does have access to? I'm gonna call it the witnessing self. The capacity of witnessing, What is witnessing. In comparison to the person where they just totally fell in the witnessing self has one foot out. One foot out of experience and one foot in experience is the witnessing self. Now, the wound version is you have both feet out. You're not even involving yourself at all. There's no contact, right? That's a version. But the healed version of this would be the witnessing self. So for those who like maps, you can now make a graph. Okay? We can make four quadrants. If you're cooking or driving or something like that, don't worry about writing any of this down. I will keep walking you through it. So On the left side, top left, you can put. Attachment, Over identification, and merging, that's the wound version. Now, go to the bottom left. Now this is the healed version of being so connected with life. What is it? I already named it. Contact. The capacity for contact, the capacity to know interconnectedness, and to be embedded within living reality. Those are all the gifts, right? So that's the left side. Now we're gonna go to the right side of this graph, top right is gonna be the wound. Aversion aversion is a reaction to attachment, as I said, top right is a reaction to the top left, okay. Now bottom right. witnessing self. So for those who haven't written this down, I'm gonna remind you that the bottom two quadrants are contact and witnessing self. These are the capacities that we are going to have in the healed version of our lives. We're gonna have the capacity for contact, and at the same time, we're gonna have the capacity to witness what's going on that makes us not fall in and contact makes us not be too far away. So now we're at the beautiful middle ground. This is where the hands have come back together and are in contact with each other again. They're touching again. The two extremes have now come together, and now my hands are in prayer position. The left side is contact. The right side is witnessing self. Together. We have presence, we have attunement to the moment, we have attunement to ourselves and each other. And I believe we all need both. both being more capacity for contact, and more capacity for a witnessing self. We all need to cultivate both more, even though we tend to have already perhaps one of them more cultivated than the other, I believe that all of us could really use the training of cultivating both more. When I say a witnessing self, it means one foot out of experience that's watching. You could call that transcendence and you could call contact the capacity for attunement, the capacity for interconnection, right? I've used all these words already. Let's look at this. Look how awesome this is. Remember how I said in the beginning that the these two reactivities, these two reactions. They kind of feed off of each other. One is a reaction to the first, right? Ah, I don't wanna suffer from this pain, so I'm gonna run away. Right? The aversion is a reaction to the risk of merging. Now, when you look at the healed version of both of these, they also have a relationship with each other, but they have a positive mutually generating relationship with each other. Which is when I know that I have the safety and the healthy boundaries within myself and the capacity of rootedness and centeredness and spaciousness in myself to have that witnessing self, then I don't need to be afraid of being in contact with what is. The reason people run away is because they don't know how to stay without falling in, without getting sucked in, without being submerged. So how can we start calibrating? How can we have attunement? What is contact with a witnessing self where. We're not falling in, but we're not flying out. There is a balance. There is a delicate location where we can live. That is a perfect balance. Where we are, who we are in our vast nature of self, where we have that awareness of the transcendent nature of self and reality, and we hold that, we keep that. We keep our witnessing self online and as we are. Everything that we are, we are in such intimate contact with the details of physical life, with the intricacies of relationship, with the difficulties that we are in responsibility to show up for. We can be, as in the Christian tradition, there's a phrase that says, we can be in the world, but not of the world. That's what this is all about. That's what I'm calling presence, that's what I'm calling presence, which is a combination of the two hands put together once again, of the two sides of those, that those quadrants left and right together with each other, the bottom two quadrants, contact and witnessing self. When we have the capacity to be in the transcendent nature of being, to be in the witnessing self and hold that and not lose that. When we're walking through the train station or the shopping mall, or a wedding or a funeral or all the rest of the craziness of life, when we're able to be who we are and hold who we are and be in God nature and hold divinity and allow ourselves to be held by that and to be the emanation of that, we can be doing everything else. And showing up for relationship and showing up for very difficult, uncomfortable conversations and getting our hands dirty, being of service in all the places where we're needed, and having our beautiful family life and having our ways that we show up in community and in our work. And all of that is contact. Now we can look at this on every level. On a psychological level, what is self contact? What does it mean to be with sorrow? To be with our grief, to be with our fear, to be with our anger without falling into it and without running away from it. What is that presence? How can we presence ourselves emotionally? Because when we can do that, then we can do everything else. We can do it with each other, we can do it in community. We can change our culture. We can experience a much cleaner spiritual practice because it's not getting covered over by the veils of our psychological egoic parts. So the number one healing if we wanna work on this is with ourselves in how we experience our emotions. And then we can look, do I tend to fall in and when I'm mad, I'm really mad and I can't control myself. Or when I'm sad, I feel like I'm gonna be sad forever and ever and everything is terrible. Or when I'm scared, I have a lot of difficulty finding safety. Am I getting really overwhelmed and stuck in the storm? Or do I tend to hyper rationalize myself? Do I tend to literally fall asleep when I'm having too strong of a trauma trigger that happens? That's a form of dissociation. Do I tend to avoid relationships or conflict? Do I tend to kind of zone out or just try to distract myself, get on my phone or something like that instead of be with? My current thoughts because they're too overwhelming or uncomfortable. This is the first litmus test that we can give ourselves. Do I tend to fall in or do I tend to run out? And then if I tend to fall in, my number one practice would be to build the witnessing self, literally mindfulness meditation. That would be the easiest form of practice. And then do I tend to run away? In that case, how can I start making contact with experience while facing my fear of falling into it and it being overwhelming? Because if I'm on that side of things, I'm afraid of being smothered. I'm afraid of being invaded. I'm afraid of being flooded. So just like we might be avoidant in relationship, we're actually also gonna be avoidant within ourselves in our own self relationship. And that's where we start practicing first. How can I give myself small little doses of my own inner experience and just practice? Like exposure therapy, little pieces, like little by little. How can I start making contact with what I tend to run away from? Well, first I can notice, oh, I'm in a pattern of running away. What is my pattern of running away? Maybe you're someone who goes out to smoke a cigarette when things get complicated. Maybe you're someone who gets on your phone and starts scrolling on Instagram. Maybe you're someone who tries to rationalize yourself and has a self-talk inside of a, a mental part of you that's like. I shouldn't be sad right now. This is ridiculous that I'm upset about this. Right? And you're judging yourself like in our culture, that hyper-masculine judgment towards the feminine within, we all have masculine, feminine inside our ourselves. So how are we treating ourselves? Those can be some ways of realizing that we're in that second reactivity in the aversion level of the binary. And we can start taking little sips of actually turning towards our experience, turning towards our discomfort. And one practice of doing that would be starting to notice where our emotion lives in our body. And potentially the body might be quite numb if this is a pattern that's been used a lot. But the more we turn towards and just start listening we will start rerouting ourselves and start building new neural pathways to start having more interoception, more capacity to feel somatically, how our emotions might be showing up in the body. And that's okay if at first we don't feel anything, but we're simply by putting our attention and our intention there. We're starting to listen and that will slowly help the sensations reveal themselves more clearly over time. So those are examples of what you could work on if you wish to, to eventually come into a beautiful balance where contact or attunement to ourselves becomes more possible and thus contact with each other, attunement to the moment, presence In the moment, we can get into very specifically more on an energy healing perspective, what attunement looks like, whether with hands-on work or through the fields, where your consciousness is contacting particular fields, particular frequencies. So for those who are interested, that can be another conversation. And that is ultimately on a very nuanced level what attunement is. But right now, what we're looking at, what we can focus on here as the goal is a witnessing self, plus the capacity for contact with what is allows for presence. It allows us to stay in the here now, it allows us to be with ourselves. It allows us to listen and to be in dialogue. It allows us to be in relationship. It allows us to be available to relate with the present moment within ourselves and with each other. And this is actually what allows us to be of service, this is what allows us to, rather than react with anger or with revenge or whatever, to react with compassion. This is the healing of the world. This is how we can show up in kindness, in difficult dialogue and in conflict resolution, or with people with different political beliefs or in complicated situations at work or in family, or this is the beginning of these are the skills for. A whole new way of being in the world together. A whole new culture where we can actually live in an awake society. How? By first, first step, working on contact, witnessing self and attunement to our own inner experience, and we can change the world, each of us. Doing this work in ourselves, we can change the world. thank you for being with me in The Ground of Love. 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