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Hidden Spiritual Meanings of Christmas: An Esoteric Nativity Story (EP24)

• OLIVIA FRAZAO

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We dive into the symbolic layers of the Nativity story and discover how esoteric and mystical Christianity reveal a fully embodied, nondual understanding of Christmas. Here we explore how the birth of Jesus honors the feminine, the body, Mother Earth, and the wisdom of indigenous traditions — uncovering insights often overlooked in mainstream Christmas stories.

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1:56 - Nativity Story Quick Overview

3:10 - Divine Masculine & Divine Feminine

3:36 - Mother Mary - The Feminine

5:05 - Mary's Virginity - Egoic Purity

7:02 - Joseph as the healthy masculine ego

8:05 - No Room at the Inn - Egoic Thought Forms

9:27 - The Stable: And Mother Earth

10:58 - Mother Earth - The Landing Pad

11:46 - Integration of Formless and Form

12:48 - The Cave - The 2nd Womb

14:55 - The Manger - Mana

16:06 - The 2 Pilgrimages: Feminine & Masculine Paths to God

19:11 - The 3 Kings

21:12 - The 3 Gifts - 3 Egoic Unburdenings

23:41 - Surrendering Ego to the Guru

27:03 - Being Christ Consciousness

30:12 - Christmas is not a memory, it's here now

31:16 - Divinity as Integration and Embodiment

40:39 - Bhakti Yoga for Jesus

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Jesus is then the fully realized awakening the God emanation the logos, the light Christ consciousness that shows up when God, the absolute in the form of the divine Father, is in full integration with the divine feminine as the receptive form body or the grounded mother earth that is able to fully receive and physicalize divinity into form. This is Jesus. Christ consciousness God formless physicalized into embodied form. Welcome to the Ground of Love. I'm your host, Olivia Frazao. This is a podcast for people who are deeply dedicated to the spiritual journey. You are here for self-growth care, for others, and being of service to the world. This podcast is in service to you to help you remember who you are and why you are here, you will receive inspiration, clarity, and no BS Love. We are walking each other home. Let's begin. Merry Christmas everyone. Today, we're going to be celebrating Christmas by looking symbolically at the Jesus birth story. If you agree, disagree, totally. Cool. This is one lens. Try it on, see how it feels, and if anything, I hope that you learn something that might help you see your own spirituality in a more tangible way. Please go ahead and do your own research. This can simply open up further conversation. Maybe this will bring up interesting dinner table conversations at your Christmas gatherings, for example. So let's break down the story now for people who don't necessarily know the basics of the story. I'm gonna review this extremely quickly, assuming that most people do know this story. Okay. Mother Mary is pregnant with baby Jesus as a virgin with God, the Father, as what's considered to be Jesus's father. Then we have the human male, Joseph, who is accompanying and helping Mother Mary find a place to give birth. They go on a journey to Bethlehem and they knock on the door of the inn, but there is no room at the inn. And so they find a stable with animals where Jesus is then born and he's placed in the manger. After that, we have the story of the three kings who come from far away who are carrying gifts of gold, frankincense, and myrrh, and they follow the star that is above where Jesus was born. To know where to go to find Jesus and arrive to him and give him these gifts. So that's what we're going to be reviewing today, but on a symbolic level. Okay, here we go. So we are looking at God the Father, as God formless, absolute beingness and Mother Mary as divinity in form, or as the symbol of the divine feminine, which in this case she's the placeholder for the divine goddess, which has been erased from patriarchal culture, which would be named Sophia, the divine feminine, form of God. So now we're looking at the feminine, in this case, mother Mary, who becomes pregnant with, let's say, the seed of the divine father of the absolute. So here we have what in many traditions in indigenous traditions would be symbolized as, let's say Father Sky and Mother Earth. We're talking about Shiva and Shakti also in the Hindu tradition, which is. The formless and the form aspects of divinity. Mother Mary Can also be the symbol of The receptive aspect of the self. She can also be the symbol of the soul self that then becomes illuminated with the logos with Christ. So consider this idea when we're meditating or when we're on a spiritual path, our desire is to be an empty vessel for God's emanation through us. What does it mean to be an empty vessel? It means to not have our egoic self in the way. So this idea of the egoic self. And the relationship between that and the divine coming in is gonna show up a lot here. So let's consider that Mother Mary. Could be this idea of the vessel through which the divine, the logos, the light, emerges within her and then emanates forth into the world. In this case, what is her virginity symbolizing? Imagine that virginity here is simply the capacity of a human being to bring forth divine energy, Christ consciousness, with direct connection with. Non-physical God absolute beingness rather than through any kind of interplay with other humans. So it's simply a symbol of being purely open to the divine. So if we're looking at it this way, then the virgin birth has nothing to do with sex being dirty or the human self being dirty. It's simply showing that this birth is not an egoic creation. So the birth of God in form, which Jesus is the embodiment of, or the representation of based on your belief system, it's simply saying that is not possible to come forth through egoic creation. Two human beings cannot create God. God can create God emanation in form through the human being that's purified from egoic. Identity or relating, or the ego self being an open and available vessel for divine emanation to come through and physicalize and come out into the world, as in this case, Jesus, or the logos. So now consider an egoic self can't create enlightenment because the whole point of enlightenment is that enlightenment is the absence of the ego. or Egoic self as receptacle of divinity can birth divinity in form. which is Jesus. That's what we're going for here with this symbolism. okay, so the ego can't create enlightenment, but divinity through physical form can be enlightenment in form. So that's Mary. Now let's look at Joseph. So here we actually have an amazing example of the healthy human masculine, which is a man who is protecting and supporting both mother and baby. That's on the physical level. And if you wanna get extrapolate a little bit more, we're looking at the healthy human masculine aspect of ourselves that is supporting the process of divine embodiment into human form. So we compare this to, unfortunately, what we're used to seeing, which is masculine as unhealthy masculine, which is arrogance and control. It's an arrogance in thinking, I'm the boss, I'm in control. Instead here we see healthy masculine as actually deferring to divine masculine to the true source of life and divinity. So now we're looking at The importance of the ego, egoic self being out of the way so that the divine can come through. Another way that that could be symbolized was this concept where Joseph and Mary are traveling to Bethlehem and then trying to find where Mary can give birth. And they knock on the door of this inn and they say that there's no room because the inn is already full of other occupants. So this concept of there being no room at the inn, one way that that could be symbolized is the idea that the inn is the crowded mind or the collective consciousness that's filled with egoic thought forms or identities. So that would be the worldly mind. And there's a need here, needing to have a space that's an open, empty, available receptacle for divine beingness to come through that's not already filled with egoic aspects of self. So when people talk about, for example, is your cup too full to receive teachings from a spiritual master? Because if they try to pour tea into your cup, it's gonna overflow or is your cup empty and you are actually an open, available vessel for the teachings to come into you. There's a, a Buddhist parable about that. So this is similar where the inn is already full, it's the teacup that's already filled, and so there isn't space for divine beingness to come in because it's already full. Instead, Joseph and Mary they're going away from human influence and going towards simplicity and humility in the idea of the stable, So we could see that this is what poverty could be representing in the idea of the stable and. this idea of poverty as this closeness, this down to earth, closeness to the divine, and a humility where we're not filled with all of these other material creations, but we're actually available to receive the divine. Poverty comes up in Franciscan Christianity about a thousand years later as a return to this idea of simplicity that the opulence of the church ended up forgetting. Which is humility, getting our minds away from being obsessed with material gain, also being too focused on form reality, on material reality, and forgetting that divinity is ultimately within. St. Francis he's reconnected with the earth, St. Francis and his brothers literally lived in caves. As did so many mystics around the world known very well in, let's say, the Himalayan tradition. This is this understanding of stripping away anything with regards to the material world or the egoic self, and this understanding of divinity found, not in what you can see around you, but in what you can experience, and emanate from within you. So now we're looking at, again, an aspect of the divine feminine as Mother Earth here. And I consider this to be really important because the patriarchy of Christianity has tried to eliminate the realities of the divine feminine within Christianity in a really destructive way. So we're bringing the divine feminine back in this case also through the understanding of Mother Earth as being a really crucial part of this story. So this would be symbolized by being in the stable and being with the animals and being in a manger, which is where Jesus is born. this receptivity of the feminine, both through Mary's physical body as being the womb through which Jesus is gestated and then birthed as well as Mother Earth herself. Through this down to earth experience of where Jesus is actually born physically are representing the fact that God, the absolute in the form of the divine Father, in the form of the formless of the Shiva aspect, is in full integration with the divine feminine as the receptive form body or the grounded rooted mother earth physical emanation of the divine. That is able to fully receive and physicalize divinity into form. So what happens when the divine masculine, formless and the divine feminine form body meet each other and are in integration with each other? Then you have embodied divinity, This is Jesus. God formless physicalized into embodied form. Another thing we can name here is, it is apparently understood that Jesus was potentially born in a cave. So whether you take that literally or symbolically, regardless, we are looking again at the Divine Mother in the form of Mother Earth. And we're looking at the cave the way that it is also represented in many indigenous traditions and used around the world as a place of spiritual searching and spiritual attainment. The cave here is the womb of Mother Earth herself. So we're seeing Jesus in the womb of Mother Mary, and we're also seeing Jesus being born within and through the womb of Mother Earth herself through the cave itself. So once again, now we're seeing that Jesus is then the fully realized awakening the God emanation the logos, the light Christ consciousness that shows up when God absolute through the divine mother in physical form as Mother Mary, the pure body vessel of the divine untainted by human energies, which is the symbol of the virginity, as well as through this landing pad, let's say, of Mother Earth herself. The place where Jesus actually arrives to. It's the rootedness, the groundedness, literally the down to earth vibe of the symbol of the stable or the reality of the cave, whichever in the simplicity of nature, simplicity, meaning there is no. Egoic interference. It's pure. Same with the idea of the virginity of Mother Mary being pure. The idea of being in nature would be the purity of not being influenced by the egoic nature. For example, what the in is representative of, if you wanna look at the stable example, we're also amongst animals that provide sustenance and abundance to humans, such as milk wool, et cetera. So you could also consider that symbolism of Mother Earth as also providing. We can also look at how after Jesus is born, he's placed in the manger. So what is a manger? It's the place that animals go to to eat. So in that symbolism, it's this idea of mana, which is spoken about in other traditions, this idea of life force energy, of divine energy. Or some people in other traditions could look at energy as Qi or as prana. These have similarities to in the, our Father prayer. When we say, give us this day our daily bread, we're talking about bread here as divine nourishment as prana, as mana as chi So Jesus being the symbol of Christ, consciousness in form, this Christ consciousness is the greatest nourishment to the form body to life itself. It is the life itself within physical life. And Bethlehem comes from Hebrew and Aramaic, meaning the house of bread. So the place of sustenance. Bread, meaning that which sustains life. Give us this day our daily bread. So let's go back slightly'cause I missed a piece, which is Mother, Mary, with Joseph who's supporting her. And baby Jesus, who's not yet born, she is making a trek from where she usually lives to where she needs to go in order for Jesus to be born. This movement is something that we can look at also when we talk about the kings who also make a trek, so if we look at both journeys, and we'll go more towards the kings in a moment. These could both be maybe considered pilgrimages or some kind of an inner movement, an inner journey, like a hero's journey towards divinity in different ways. So in the case of Mother Mary, she's the feminine and she's birthing. This is a receptive stance and a creative stance. This could be this idea of going inwards. If we're assuming that the cave is where Jesus is born, she's going into the cave. So that's what we could call, if you wish, to the downward journey, which would be the feminine journey within. When we look at the kings, we could consider those are three masculine attributes of later we'll look into it, but of the egoic self. And here we could consider it to be the journey of seeking, the journey of searching, the journey of going towards through willpower. Which would be more of the masculine aspect, and this could be a journey if you wish to, that we would call the journey upwards, which would be the egoic self meeting the divine through this upward movement. Most traditions that I've noticed have a huge patriarchal bent to them, let's say in the Abrahamic traditions, or let's just look at Christianity to keep it simple. Oftentimes there's this obsession with the upward movement. Without the remembrance of the downward movement that can be more alive or remembered in traditions that have remembered the divine feminine or in let's say indigenous traditions. So here we actually have the balance of the feminine way of meeting the divine and the masculine way of meeting, the divine that can provide us with a balance of remembering that within ourselves we have both. We have the receptivity where this feeling of pregnancy and birth, it's a natural movement that's happening. Whether or not we put in our own willpower, whether or not we want it or don't want it, that's what's happening. There's this feeling of surrender. That would be the feminine way. Going into the cave again, is this inward movement. And then the masculine way with the kings would be this feeling of seeing something, seeing the star that guides them, having the willpower to go towards it. Towards the divinity that is seen on the outside of you. I feel like all this could symbolize so much, but we can take this as the first step towards deeper contemplation. So let's look specifically now at the Three Kings. the three Kings See a Star. The star is above where Baby Jesus is born in this story. Okay? So the Star is basically saying, Hey, you have not yet seen what you are going towards, but this is a reminder to you that it's already here. So notice what that could symbolize within our own spiritual journey as human beings who still have an egoic identity. There's the understanding that Christ realization, that Christ consciousness, which ultimately is all of us, when we are fully embodied divinity in form, without the ego, egoic self in the way it's there and it's waiting for us, it's already there. And we have the capacity to go through this hero's journey if we feel so called to make this trek that the kings made. And that trek is a pilgrimage. It could go through hardship. You might have to go through the desert. It might take a while, but you have this reminder, you have this star in the sky that's saying, keep going. I'm here. This is the direction. And so we have this calling, and with our willpower, we can overcome the obstacles in the journey to arrive. So to me, also, there's this feeling of faith here. Where the kings haven't seen Jesus. but they trust that Jesus is there because they've been called by the cosmos. So by the way, these kings apparently these guys are astrologers, okay? They're magi, they are mystics who know how to read the cosmos, right? So you can read into the symbolism of that as well. It's not just the material king that we would consider today. That's simply a human being who has power over other human beings in the material world. But actually, these kings have an eye to the heavens. They're reading the heavens, and the heavens are telling them what's up, and they're going towards it. Now let's look at the gifts that these three kings bring and what these gifts are symbolizing. So we have gold, frankincense, and mer. Gold would be the symbol of kingship or human power. Right power and riches. So this would be the more typical kingly status. This is externalized authority, maybe that power could be used for good, for bad, I don't know. But it's this, let's say the concept of human power or even power itself. You can slice and dice this as you wish. Frankincense was something that people used at that time as an offering in religious settings. In temples, they would burn frankincense. So you could see this as if you're giving that over to now, divine incarnation, AKA Jesus, if you're giving that over, you're giving over the idea of ritualistic religion. So religion kind of externalized, right? So we could also consider that the offering of frankincense would also be offering up our own spiritual ego. The part of us that's kind of the external, superficial symbolism of religion rather than the part of us that's deep inside. Then we have myrrh, which people would use at that time for healing wounds, for embalming the dead and in burials. So this could be symbolic of the form body or the attachment to the form body and death. So here we can also look at the symbolism from Buddhism. The Buddha sees suffering through old age sickness and death. So that's what we could look at with myrrh potentially as well. It's the concept of the human body and what happens when we're attached to the human body, we could end up in suffering. So let's review the three gifts. Each of the kings through each of their gifts could be symbolic of different aspects of the egoic identity. So We're looking at gold as human power, self-importance, meaning, and status, all coming from the external. Frankincense, we could be looking at, spiritual ego or ritualistic religion. So that's the externalization of the divine in religion. Maybe we could extrapolate that into the Muslim idea of not wanting to worship idols, right? This idea of like God is not on the outside, God is on the inside. That would be symbolic of this issue as well. And then myrrh would be attachment to the physical body, physical survival and death and suffering around that. So when these gifts are given, consider the idea of what happens, let's say in the Hindu yogic tradition of the guru and surrendering to the guru. The guru in the form of a divine avatar, not a regular spiritual teacher, which is sometimes called guru, but right now what I'm saying, guru, I mean divine avatar such as Jesus. This is a being where human, self, and divine self, that distinction does not exist. Human incarnation is the divine in physical incarnated form. This is Jesus. When we surrender to the guru, we give everything, what do we give? We give the egoic parts of us that are blocking us from, first of all, our direct union with the guru, which ultimately is our direct union with the guru within. So we are giving the guru, in this case, Jesus. Everything that comes in the way between us and divine realization us and God, nature, So when the kings go and offer these gifts, what they're really doing is unburdening themselves of the egoic attributes that have blocked them from being in union with Jesus. Being in union with the divine avatar means ultimately being in union with their own inner Christ consciousness, AKA, their own inner divinity, their own capacity to be non-dual. Jesus is non-duality. So in order to get rid of duality, what do we do? We offer these fragmentations of self, these egoic parts of us, to the guru, to the divine avatar to God, nature, so that we then are rid of those things. They're dissolved. So that we can then also be God nature ourselves, so we can also be non-dual ourselves. So what we have surrendered, in this case, the symbols of gold, frankincense and myrrh are dissolved so that we are purified of whatever holds us separate from the absolute. And we can be like Jesus too, meaning Christ consciousness is within us as well. The difference between Christ's consciousness being within us, let's say right now, which it already is, and Jesus as embodiment of Christ's consciousness, is that Christ's consciousness is within us, but other CRAP is also within us, whereas Jesus is the pure thing with nothing else. That would be similar as we said about Mother Mary with the concept of virginity attributed to Mother Mary, where there's purity of divine emanation coming through her. In this case, Jesus within her womb, coming through her and emanating forth from her birthing out of her body. There's a purity there as well. There's no egoic self. There's no meddling with all of the stuff going on in the inn. Joseph is the healthy, masculine egoic, self. supporting the process of divine embodiment into human form., there's purity in this whole story. So finally, when the kings arrive at baby Jesus. That is the symbol of union between the egoic self and God emanation that can be symbolic of the fact that all of us humans can also make this trek. In the case of the kings, it was a physical journey, but we can make the inner pilgrimage towards Christ consciousness offer that which stands in the way between us and our own inner divinity. Receive the blessing of the divine avatar. In this case, Jesus receive the blessing of God Nature. To remind us, oh, just like the star told us this truth of Christ consciousness has been here the whole time. Now we've arrived to what has always been. Now we too can be embodiment of divinity in the form body. So this can be really important for us to consider now 2000 years after when this story occurred. Because people say the new Buddha is the sangha. What does that mean? People say that the second coming of Jesus is actually within the hearts of everyone. What does that mean? It's the idea that rather than having these divine avatars needing to come forth into incarnation and clean all of us up, while we remain in ignorance, most of us, it's actually the opportunity that the collective can awaken now. That the collective, the Sangha meaning spiritual community, can become the next Buddha. Meaning Buddha hood can actually reveal itself through the multitudes or the next coming of Jesus can be symbolized through everyone waking up to their inner Christ. Nature can be the understanding that we as a collective can awaken rather than it being something that one magical person is capable of. It's actually something that we can all become capable of, we can all be capable of, that we all are capable of, and thus that we are all already doing on the spiritual path and capable of attaining and that we will be attaining on the spiritual path. Pretty cool way to look at it. That gives us a lot of work to do, which is getting serious about our trust, our faith, our discipline, in our meditative practice, or whatever our spiritual practice is, and our openness and receptivity to the fact that. Perhaps what we thought was out of reach or that we had been yearning for in a"this is really far away" kind of feeling is something that we can really take seriously and make ourselves accessible to so that the divine emanation of Christ consciousness can birth through all of us in what New age people like to consider the new world. That was the whole idea in the sixties of this new era of awakening. In this way, the birth of Christ consciousness is something that we can celebrate as something that is alive and happening today rather than a memory of a story from 2000 years ago. My teacher, Ron, Ron Young, was recently speaking about how Christmas is an opportunity where collective consciousness is open to this paradigm of birth. Consider how many billions of people on December 25th at the same time are focused on love, family, faith, and a remembrance of divinity, or at least a thought towards divinity. That doesn't have to be only in historical terms and doesn't have to be only in symbolic terms or only in religious dogmatic terms, but we can actually allow Christmas to be a living, breathing, open portal of divine emanation, and we can allow this birth to exist within all of our hearts and to give Christmas the actual opportunity to birth through us the way that Mother Mary was an open receptacle of divinity. We can allow ourselves to be that open receptacle as well. So we're gonna conclude here with some aha moments, what can we actually learn about Christianity through the symbology that we did today. in comparison to looking at Christianity through, unfortunately, what has often become the dogmatic, patriarchal version of itself that people took way too literally and have been misguided by. as you have seen through a couple references to different traditions that I threw in here today, What is the healthy living, breathing, symbolic, Christianity. That is actually fully compatible with other lineages that are also taking an integrated approach to divinity alive in form. What are some of the truths that can be revealed through looking at the Christ story through a symbolic lens in the way that we did today? What are some of the misconceptions that can be healed? Unfortunately, we are probably all aware that the typical Christian dogmatic teachings are infused with patriarchal and spiritual bypass lenses that separate the divine from the feminine and from the body this is really important to realize this is not in the core of Christianity. So we need to throw out this patriarchal overlay that is solely for political power that was put on top of Christianity, on top of all traditions, really on a sociopolitical level, this has nothing to do with God. Patriarchy has everything to do with humans wanting to dominate other humans and using God's name as an excuse to do that by distorting religious stories and distorting anything that we see as source. And then using God as an excuse to be able to say or do anything that is harmful where the ego is the one who's controlling rather than God itself. So instead, what happens when we look at what all of this symbology is showing us around getting the egoic self out of the way, going towards humility. Not engaging in the hyper masculine, distorted, human, egoic way, but being in the healthy masculine. What happens when we are reconnected with the divine feminine as form nature through, for example, mother Earth herself being where Jesus is born, as well as Mother Mary being the divine feminine vessel, through which the child, Jesus is born. So now we need to let go of the Christian tradition that has made not only the body dirty but also that which is connected to nature considered less than or dirty. For example, the conquistadors calling indigenous people savage. What is that? That is the patriarchal mind being afraid of nature because the patriarchal mind. Hates what it can't control because all it wants to do is control. That's literally what the patriarchal mind is. It is the desire for control and the imposition of control through domination and aggression. So what we're looking at in the Jesus story. Instead of control is surrender. Joseph is supporting that in Mary. Mary is surrendering to the fact that she's now pregnant that just happened upon her. They are surrendering to the fact that they are now in this humble, stable, the kings are coming with their gifts in order to surrender the egoic self to baby Jesus. Nature is holding all of these people. Nature is holding the birth of divinity in form, which is Jesus itself. So true Christianity is integration. That's literally what Jesus is. That's what Jesus symbolized, and that's what Jesus taught. Absolute God beingness symbolized as the Father through the form body of the mother, into and as incarnation as divinity in incarnation, divinity in form. So here we are with Christianity and other religions wanting to escape from form, whereas actually true Christianity is teaching us that God realization is not separate from what some people might call the lower chakras, the lower planes of existence, but actually integration with them. So in traditions around the world, both indigenous traditions and within the esoteric core of the global religions, what we actually see is the human being as the meeting place between, let's say the heaven, worlds and earth, or between God absolute and God in divine emanation as material form, or God as the Father, as the unseen with God, the mother, as the seen, yes, we could call this different things. In some traditions, maybe they swap around words, but the general idea here it's about divinity as integration. What we have been taught through Christianity in its patriarchal way is divinity as an absenting of oneself from material reality. Let's look very clearly at what I'm saying and what I'm not saying here, because I get how this could be confusing because I did talk about going away from material reality in this story as well. So let me choose my words better. Stay with me. Are you ready? Yes. We need to be careful about our ignorances and about our egoic parts of us that have made us think that we get it when we don't, or that we're in unity when we're actually in selfishness, or that we're seeing the true picture when we're actually in separation. Those are like the egoic parts of us that the kings in the Jesus story are giving over. Yes, that's what we talked about. In any tradition, when you're with a divine avatar, you are giving your ignorance to this quote unquote externalized version of God until we realize that that externalized version of God, such as Jesus is actually no different from our own true nature. AKA our, inner Christ consciousness. Okay. That is, ignorance the quote unquote, material reality that we don't wanna get stuck in. That's different from literally physical reality meaning literally 3D physical life. This is something that the patriarchal versions of religion have somehow made less than in an attempt to find divinity by releasing oneself from egoic ignorances, releasing yourself from egoic ignorances yay a plus. Do egoic ignorances exist within the human psyche? Yes, they do. Is that the same as attempting to release ourselves from the human body? No. Wrong. Messed up. That's where we got lost. That was a misinterpretation of what it means to transcend. We have the opportunity here for a full divine reality for what Ken Wilbur calls transcend and include. Unfortunately, dogmatic Christianity tends to only talk about transcending, and in order to do that, it starts to poo poo half of reality, which is the lower chakras, which is the physical world, which is. Literally nature, mother nature, the feminine and indigeneity. In that case, all of that becomes less than, what is that? That's not Christianity. That's patriarchy dressed in Christianity's robes. So we're not falling for that now. We're actually looking at the Jesus story and saying, oh my God, it's been here the whole time. This understanding of Jesus being so special because he actually is divinity in form in incarnation. That's the whole point. The nonphysical divinity of God the father is now physicalized through the incarnation of Jesus in form, through the divine feminine as Mother Mary and as Mother Earth. So grounded receptivity. Is the name of the game in terms of what we can find in our own feminine nature to become available for non-physical divinity to live within us in our own physical form. This is full incarnation. This is what incarnation actually is when we do it fully. For more information about this kind of stuff, take a look at my episodes called Patriarchy and Spirituality, which are episodes 10 and 11 where we can actually come back into the divine feminine and also take a look at episodes seven, eight, and nine, which are called Trauma and Resilience. These are talking about what True Incarnation actually is. It's the full integration of our divine beingness into our physical form. This is where we see full integration, full embodiment. Form is emptiness. Emptiness is form. Emptiness is not other than form. Form is not other than emptiness. This from the heart sutra in Mahayana Buddhism, it's all the same stuff. So here we can actually see thanks to the Jesus story, thanks to Jesus as a living incarnation of the divine, as a living avatar. And thanks to all of the other living avatars throughout the ages, dogmatic Christians don't like me saying that'cause they want Jesus to be the only one. He has not been the only one. Thank God. Thank God we've had more help. And as my teacher Ron Young says, Jesus has been the avatar of this age of the past 2000 years. So thanks to the avatars for coming forth as an absolute pure open portal of divinity in form to remind us that any form of guru yoga, yes, I am calling loving Jesus, a form of guru yoga. Any form of bhakti, any form of devotion. Yes, I'm calling loving Jesus bhakti, the bhakti path. This is all about ultimately being able to understand that the Christ has always been within us, and that this is who we are, and this is who we are capable of being and what we are capable of emanating for each other, for a beautiful world, the world that Jesus came here to remind us of, to invite us into, and to motivate us to actually create and become ourselves. Let's give Jesus the best Christmas gift that we can, which is doing our best to find and emanate Christ consciousness within ourselves. Merry Christmas. thank you for being with me in The Ground of Love. You can follow this podcast to receive the next episodes, and who is it that comes to mind to share this episode with? Who Could Benefit? 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