Spiritual Ego Explained: How to Break Ego Traps & Awaken to Your True Nature (EP43, 2/2)

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What is the spiritual ego—and how does it block spiritual awakening?

In this episode, we explore spiritual ego, spiritual bypassing, and the subtle ways the ego co-opts spirituality to avoid discomfort, shame, vulnerability, and surrender. Learn how to recognize the signs of ego-based spirituality, break free from spiritual ego traps, and return to your true nature.

You’ll learn:

•  What spiritual ego actually is 
•  How spiritual bypassing and spiritual ego overlap 
•  Why shame, attachment, and control fuel egoic spirituality 
•  Common signs of spiritual ego (comparison, wanting to feel “advanced,” spiritual superiority, perfectionism, identity attachment) 
•  The difference between ego-based spirituality vs true spirituality
•  How to move beyond ego through self-compassion, surrender, faith, and letting go of attachments

Using both psychological insight and spiritual wisdom—including attachment theory, Buddhist teachings on attachment and aversion, and the path of self-realization—this episode offers a grounded framework for recognizing when spirituality has become another identity structure.

This conversation is for anyone navigating spiritual awakening, the dark night of the soul, identity deconstruction, or the deeper process of awakening beyond ego and into unconditional love, truth, and inner freedom.

If you’ve been feeling stuck on your spiritual path, caught in subtle control patterns, or wondering whether you’re unintentionally using spirituality to avoid deeper healing, this episode is for you.

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Timestamps:

2:39 - How Do We Free Ourselves From the Spiritual Ego?

8:33 - Self-Acceptance

10:13 - What Is Spirituality Beyond the Spiritual Ego?

11:09 - Spiritual Ego Trap: Wanting to Be “Advanced” (vs. True Spirituality Instead)

13:16 - Spiritual Ego Trap: Comparing Yourself with Others

15:35 - Why Spirituality Is Not Fun

19:42 - What It’s Going to Take to Surrender to the Spiritual Ego

22:13 - How You’ll Get Stuck on Your Spiritual Path

23:52 - How to Get Out of the Spiritual Ego

25:33 - The 3-Step Map of Awakening

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​How much are we willing to fall off of the cliff of our own belief systems and to just free fall with no parachute of all of our constructs of what we want things to mean? That's actual spirituality. Not that many people want that. Actual spirituality. It's not cute. It's not shiny. It's not glamorous. What is beyond what I'm most attached to? Am I crazy enough to be willing to choose trust? Instead of everything that I'm grabbing onto for dear life? That's spirituality. Welcome to the Ground of Love. I'm your host, Olivia Frazao. This is a podcast for people who are deeply dedicated to the spiritual journey. You are here for self-growth care, for others, and being of service to the world. This podcast is in service to you to help you remember who you are and why you are here, you will receive inspiration, clarity, and no BS Love. We are walking each other home. Let's begin. Ultimately, in the most basic definition of it, spiritual ego is the egoic self thinking that it's true nature when it's actually just the egoic self. A lot of it relates to spiritual bypass also. So how do we free ourselves from the spiritual ego? We need to look very deeply at the fact that the egoic self has the most insidious feelings about itself of all, which is shame. Shame is the most insidious because it blocks you from taking accountability for something inside of yourself. Shame is so insidious because shame says that is so bad that I can't admit that I have it because if I did, basically the whole world would hate me and I would hate myself and I don't deserve to exist. And it just gets really negative, really fast. So shame is basically like, ah, I can't look at that. I can't share that with other people. I have to hide it. I'm really worried about the fact that it's there. So I'm basically just gonna repress it a lot until I forget that it's there and I just don't touch it. And then we're talking about denial, right? So we talked about repression before. Now we know why. Shame is the cause of repression. Why is shame there? Because you actually believe that you're you. You actually believe that whatever egoic parts you're ashamed of are actually real. You actually believe that everything you think about yourself is actually real. Shame is only possible when you take things personally because you're taking them literally because you're seeing them as ultimate reality, when you realize that this is all a big game and we are what we are because of gajillions of reasons of all of these interconnected cause effect patterns, all of this co- arising, all of these karmic traces, all of this lineage trauma, all of this multi lifetime stuff, and we're all in this big soup together just trading karmic impacts with each other. The construct of who you think you are is just a big amalgamation of compulsions, like a, your constant skipping CD track, just repeating and repeating and repeating stuff from when you were two years old, or from whatever your mom told you, or from whatever your mom experienced when she was two years old, or from whatever lineage trauma your whole country is going through and on and on and on. Why is that personal? When you realize it's not, there's no need to have shame around it. So the spiritual ego, another way that you can tell that it's the spiritual ego and not the actual spiritual nature of yourself is because it thinks that it's itself. It thinks that it's real. It thinks that it's solid. It thinks, oh, no, no, no. This is me. This is ultimate reality. And because it thinks that it takes everything personally, if you think that you are what you are, then you better uphold it and better look really nice and be shiny and good for the photographs, and then you're gonna be ashamed of what's not. Shame only exists because you think you exist. And when I say you think you exist, I don't want you to hear that as like, oh, this is such an esoteric concept. Like this is too philosophical. I don't even get it. Let's just keep it more basic, more easy to understand. Shame exists because you are taking things personally. You're taking the whole game of life personally. So we need to really zoom out and look at the fact that our mental processes are triggers, our emotional overwhelm moments, all of the stuff that we might have shame around in ourselves that we might judge ourselves for. This is gonna be a confusing thing to hear, so just bear with me because some people are gonna be like, ah, where's the accountability? But so just bear with me. It's not our fault. It's not our fault. There's nothing to blame yourself or shame yourself around for simply being as you are. It's your responsibility to not turn it into violence towards other people, harm other people, but the way that you are, the way that you are, that's just the cards that you got in this lifetime. That's just what's happening. And it's okay. You were not the creator of all of this. You are the cre. How weird is that? We so deeply want to feel like we're the master of the universe. Let's just look at it like this for a moment. You are not the creator of all of this. You are the result of creation. You are just another molecule in the Great River bonking around with other molecules. As you go down the great river of life itself. We are completely clueless as to what's actually happening in the bigger picture here. So why are we taking ourselves so literally and so seriously to have shame around ourselves and through that shame, try to save ourselves from our own shame by having to become really perfectionistic and totally throw under the rug everything that we're ashamed of. When we do that, we don't have the capacity to take ownership. Now remember when I said, bear with me because I had the whole, this is not your fault thing? To be very clear. Now I have to give a disclaimer to what I meant around that. My disclaimer is. This does not mean that we don't take accountability around ourselves. This does not mean that we're not responsible. This does not mean that we can wreak havoc and be like, oh, but everything's a big game. Or, oh, but I don't have any agency. That's not what I'm saying. Yes, we need to actually take ownership. That's what I'm saying. Unfortunately, because of this whole shame thing, we're not even able to take ownership, right? So one of the ways to get out of spiritual ego is to actually accept ourselves just the way that we are. How do we do that? True nature actually has compassion. The ego doesn't. That's a little clue as to where you're at. Are you seeing yourself with compassion? Fantastic. That's your actual heart. Are you seeing yourself with judgment with some kind of a constriction that's locking yourself in? That's just an egoic part, and you don't have to judge yourself for being like, oh my God. I'm so messed up. That's another egoic part. Now you're judging however you've locked yourself in. Right? So ultimately, what is it like to let go of the whole thing, the whole construct this whole wrapping around yourself that you've done, and being like, oh my God, this is exhausting. One of the ways to come outta the spiritual ego is to realize how exhausting it is to hold up all of these constructs that are fighting back all of these fears and uncertainties. The spiritual ego needs control. Why? Because as I said, it perceives itself to be alone. It doesn't perceive God as being there. It doesn't perceive anything beyond itself. That's literally what the ego is. It's the incapacity to see beyond the limited construct of self. The spiritual ego is exactly the same. It just uses flowery language about itself and talks in some kind of a peaceful voice apparently. When we start owning the fact, oh my God, I've been in my spiritual ego, all of a sudden we might be like, well then what is spirituality? What is my true nature? We need to go back to these really, really basic moments of like, oh, it's actually only that moment of peace. Not everything that I made it mean about my identity and my life and my values and how valuable I am or what great work I can do now, or how people think of me. No, it's literally just peace. It's not all of the constructs that the egoic self co-opts peace to become for the upholding of its narrative that then has all these conditions to it and all these hierarchies and all these mental constructs. Who am I really? What is true nature? Really? What is all this spiritual stuff? Really, it's just love. Part of this spiritual ego another thing that it does is it wants to be advanced. That is a huge issue. It wants to be advanced. I'm cool because I'm advanced. Where do we get this from? We got this from school. I want the a plus. I want the A plus in class. How do I get an A plus? How do I get an A plus? I'm gonna be even more perfect so that I can get an A plus. 'cause I wanna be really advanced. Why? Because then we get patted on the back, right? We want everyone to say, oh my God, you're so amazing. So how do we get everyone to say, oh my God, you're so amazing. We become advanced. That's what we want. I don't wanna be the beginner. I wanna be advanced. So all of a sudden there's a hierarchy. There's somewhere to get to, and I have to do the right thing in order to get there. I need to look good. I wanna look good. I wanna be the best. None of that has anything to do with spirituality. Spirituality is literally the opposite. It's like, how much are you willing to fall? That's real spirituality. How much are you willing to fall on your face and stay in the mud? That's the lotus. The lotus grows from the mud. It is not flying up in a castle in the sky, it's in the mud. How much are we willing to fall off of the cliff of our own belief systems and to just free fall with no parachute of all of our constructs of what we want things to mean? That's actual spirituality. Not that many people want that. Actual spirituality. It's not cute. It's not shiny. It's not glamorous. It's not what makes the big bucks, right? You can't market it with pretty filters on Instagram and be like, look at me. I'm this perfect whatever. Come follow me. Follow me, right? True. Spiritual people don't do that. They're like, oh, what is beyond what I'm most attached to? Am I crazy enough to be willing to choose trust? Instead of everything that I'm grabbing onto for dear life? That's spirituality. And by the way, that's always available to anyone. Another way that you might know that you're in the spiritual ego is that you can be jealous of people who look spiritually advanced. Because that's what you wanna be. You wanna be advanced. So you look at people who have all these, let's say, spiritual successes, however, you're defining that and you want that. But what is it that you can see when I say spiritual successes? And by the way, that word is only from the spiritual ego, not from the actual true nature. True nature doesn't care about success. What you're seeing is some type of capacity. Right. Let's say, a healing capacity or a psychic capacity, or something like that. And you want that capacity, and so you're like, Ooh, how can I do that? How can I add that annex to my house? How can I put that gem on top of my crown? Well, it's not an addition to your construct of self. That's what the spiritual ego does. It starts trying to learn all these things like, oh, I'm a psychic person. Okay, great. But that's not spirituality. That's not spirituality. That's a, a multidimensional skill. Okay, but what is spirituality? The dissolution of self, not the construct of one. And why are we dissolve, dissolving the self? Because we're going into what's holding us. We're going into what is beyond our understanding. We're going into love past what we've been taught, that it is, we're going into the true power of beingness itself, not the power of humans trying to be better than each other and wanting to make more money or look better or feeling better about themselves. All that inner competition and outer competition, that's the spiritual ego. The spiritual ego looks at spiritual skills that other people have and are like, I wanna put that in my tool belt. Why? Two reasons. This spiritual ego either wants to look good for other people, or this spiritual ego wants those skills because somehow it's gonna help them maintain their sense of control so that they can keep their little box of what comfortable reality looks like to them maintained. So where are we now? We are looking at what spirituality actually is. Now, when I say spirituality, I mean the true nature of the spiritual self actually. And I also mean the path to get there, meaning the motivation that the ego has to dissolve itself towards whatever is beyond itself, towards true nature. How do we get there? Because we don't get there through what the spiritual ego thinks it can do to get there, which is to construct itself. We get there, as I had said by deconstruction. Why would we deconstruct? Two reasons. One, we're forced to because nothing we're doing is working and life is basically just taking us to our knees. The second reason is we're crazy enough to find out what's on the other side because we're very curious or because we've had enough direct experiences or even if we haven't personally experienced it and we really just want to feel what it's like to be beyond whatever it is that we are gripping and grabbing onto right now. Fantastic. Either way, whether you're choosing or you're being forced to, what you're actually doing is you're going beyond your current attachments. You are choosing faith and trust rather than control. Let's be honest, that's not fun. It's not fun. Yes, whatever's on the other side of letting go, it's fantastic. The actual act of letting go is that fun? Not usually not fun. Specifically the act of the ego letting go of itself when it doesn't want to, which is basically always, it never really wants to. What's on the other side. Yeah, that's fun. But the spiritual path, we choose discomfort. Like that's what we're choosing. We're choosing discomfort. What's discomfort? Coming out of whatever a grip was of the solid reality and moving through whatever that fall, that jump, the cliff jump that I keep talking about is. The glacier dissolving itself, going into this void space, going into this faith, even though we don't even know if there's anything there. Right. Which is why the spiritual ego got constructed in the first place. 'cause it thinks it's alone. You're kind of just jumping. Is that fun? I dunno. Hiding what you're ashamed of is probably easier, more painful in the long run. But short term, it's probably easier, 'cause then you can just keep watching Netflix. That's fun. But facing things, taking ownership, owning stuff rather than blaming other people, owning stuff rather than repressing it. Owning stuff and realizing that you actually have no idea what's going on. Realizing that actually. You're not special, and you don't have to be realizing that it's only coming from a place of unworthiness. Owning that unworthiness, figuring out how to actually hug and love that unworthiness. Trying to actually ask yourself, what is all of this about facing the nihilism? Just realizing that's another step in the journey, allowing total chaos and confusion and lostness, rather than being like, I understand what spirituality is. It's this and this, and look at me. I'm this spiritual person, right? It's like all of a sudden we don't have any of those constructs, and now you're going into this total unknown with something that's undefined, with a self, that's undefined, with a future that's undefined, and with the other side of whatever this freaky jump is, that's undefined. Well, the other side, at least, you know, we have the gurus and the masters and the saints all being like, Hey guys, love is really great. You should try it. But in order to actually try. Unconditional love. We gotta get rid of all of our conditions. How do we do that? We gotta actually choose to let go of our attachments. This sounds really nice philosophically, but now you're on a phone call with your ex, who you recently divorced, who you're in a custody battle with, and it's really hard to let go of attachments in that exact moment. Right? It's really hard. This is what I'm saying, like, is that fun? No, not really fun. But suffering within the egoic self is also not fun. So I think the reason I keep mentioning the hard part is to be like, yeah, that's actually what real spirituality takes. And so the spiritual ego that's looking at somebody else, Who has, let's say all of these healing powers and whatever. Guess why they have all of that stuff. It didn't come for free. It's not because they just tacked on these extra skills that they learned this is not about construction. This is about deconstruction. Those people who you're apparently jealous of, are you though? Because the thing that actually got them there is that jump that you're avoiding. The reason that you're in the spiritual ego is because constructing a spiritual self is easier than that jump. That got them to the real spiritual nature that allowed them to then have these capacities. You do not get capacities like that, at least not without negative consequences by just staying in the ego, allowing yourself to stay in the in conditional love rather than unconditional. Allowing yourself to stay in your attachments and aversions rather than release and surrender. Allowing yourself to stay in your sense of control rather than trust and faith. Allowing yourself to stay in your self-centered focus of wanting to basically maintain this sense of self that ultimately is something that's wanting to be good enough... and actually go into a humility of don't know space, right? Allowing there to be something greater than you. It's like all of those things are gonna have to shift. In order for surrender from control and fear to be possible. In order for you to actually be on a spiritual path that takes you deeper and deeper into true nature without getting caught constantly by this spiritual egoic aspect of ourselves that keeps trying to co-opt all of our direct experiences into some narrative of ourselves to make ourselves feel better and to stay in a sense of control. That's what we're going towards. We're going towards letting go in the places that we don't want to let go. Because if you are experiencing a spiritual ego, that means that you have already embarked upon your spiritual journey. Well, guess what parts of your ego have already dissolved? The parts that are easy to dissolve. Guess what parts have not dissolved yet? The harder ones to dissolve. So it actually takes the choice to go where we don't want to go. The choice to become less competent, the choice to know less, the choice to release control, the choice to take ownership over things that we are either repressing or projecting out there and blaming other people for. That's the actual road. Yes, there's more love on the other side, which makes it worth it, but we need to have faith that that's what's on the other side. Sometimes there's not even faith for that. Sometimes people have doubt in that place where faith actually needs to live in order for these harder movements to be possible. If you have doubt that on the other side of letting go of what you don't want to let go of is actually something good, you're not gonna do it. And your spiritual path will be truncated at that spot, and you're not gonna keep going. If you are too afraid to let go of what you really, really don't wanna let go of because you don't have enough faith, that something better is on the other side of that surrender, your spiritual path can't move forward because it requires that letting go and it requires the faith in order for that letting go to even be possible, to be worth it, to be something that you'd be motivated towards, to be something that you'd be willing to risk. So ultimately, how do you get out of this if you want to? You get to actually gain faith in order to go towards more trust and surrender. Where can you look to experience or trust that at least others have experienced the goodness that comes out of release. Reading biographies of gurus or of saints or whatever. I think this is a good idea 'cause you can actually see what the experience of someone else is, who's been down paths like this, you can actually see, wow, these are these moments of going through the gap from, I know more like I think I know through, I don't know, into knowing itself. It's the gap going from, I think I know I am to, oh my God, I have no idea what's going on. To whatever would be on the other side of that, we're all still discovering that. Where can we gain faith for the moments that we have not yet experienced in terms of the letting go that we have not yet allowed ourselves or felt motivated enough to attempt? Where can we get inspiration from our past, from our own personal past where we saw, Hey, when I let go here and here and here, there was actually a really amazing outcome for me. Right? Most probably. We all have some version of that that we can look to to realize that there's actually a pattern here. Awakening is a pattern. It's a series of honestly predictable moments like the unknown is a predictable phase. The wellbeing on the other side of the unknown is a predictable outcome. There is some kind of a map to this. It goes certainty, AKA thinking that you know what's going on, even when you don't. So, righteousness, let's say that instead, I don't wanna use the word certainty. 'cause we wanna reserve certainty for what's actually true. So let's say a, a righteousness, a solidification, believing our thoughts and staying in our comfort zone. That would be step one, right? It's just the ego. Oh, I'm here, the ego, look, this is reality, right? Yes, we're suffering, but at least it's what we consider ourselves to be certain of, at least what we're righteous about. At least it's what's definable to us, and we feel comfortable in that definition, even if within that definition we're actually experiencing pain and suffering. We're comfortable with it because it's familiar. Then, in step two, now we're like, oh my God, there's more. What is this? Right? Oh, this is a little glimpse of unconditional love. Oh, this is a glimpse of the true power of love. Not the power of power. Oh, this is a glimpse of actual peace. Oh, this is a glimpse of faith and trust. And then in our weird step three, we could get lost, like, what's the spiritual path even for, what's it even for? Is it to just strengthen the sense of control and safety of the ego against fear and the fear of pain? 'cause that's what the spiritual ego does. The spiritual ego is like, thank you so much, spiritual reality. I'm so glad I dipped my toe into you. Now, I'm gonna grab whatever I can close to wherever I dipped my toe into. I'm just gonna grab some of that, bring it back over here on this side of the fence, into my territory of safety, of self definition, and I'm just gonna sprinkle it around. And now, oh my God, I feel so much better. My ego is so enhanced now I'm the spiritual ego, right? 'cause I just took a little dip on the other side in the, the river of life itself. It just took a little handful and just sprinkled it on top of myself on this side of the fence. And now I'm not only comfortable in all of my rigid definitions, but I'm also comfortable about my, little magical additions here. Right? That's not what we're doing though are we? Are we, are we, We're going beyond that. So. As I said, not fun, Why do I keep saying not fun? The spiritual ego is there because it tried to avoid the not fun part. That's why it's even there. It's there 'cause it's like, Ooh, okay, going actually all the way across this void is actually really scary. So I'm just gonna take the stuff that I like. I'm gonna bring it over to where I'm comfortable, and I'm just gonna really milk that. I'm gonna really let this go a long way. I'm gonna make a lot out of this. I'm gonna feel like, look how expansive I've become. Meanwhile, you're still in the territory of I'm afraid. When you choose faith and trust over control, you will actually have the healthy version of step three, which is an actual deconstruction of the ego rather than a construction of the spiritual ego within the ego. You're gonna actually have the spiritual self rather than the spiritual ego. It's gonna take facing a lot of vulnerabilities and shame, embarrassment. I'm not good enough. Unworthy, unlovable, fear of being rejected. It's gonna bring up all that because ultimately we're talking about identity and we're talking about what we value and don't value in terms of who we think we are. It is tough. It's a tough one. Coming outta spiritual ego is painful. Is painful because a spiritual ego, it's a little hiding place that's comfortable. You kind of have the best of both worlds when you're in the spiritual ego, like you get to hold onto your egoic self and not have to let go more, not have to surrender. You can keep that grip of control, but you can feel spiritual. And you can have a little dip every now and then, you know, into the universe of all beingness without actually having to offer yourself to it. Sounds pretty convenient to me. I think it's why we all kind of end up there because spirituality seems fun in the beginning and that's the part that we want. It seems fun and it seems relieving. That's I think, why the ego at first goes towards that, which is beyond itself, goes towards divinity, goes towards a spiritual path because it wants relief from suffering. And it wants the bells and whistles of what looks cool and fancy and fun and exciting and beautiful, right? And so it gets that part, but it gets to keep all of the control and all of the, this is what I think I am and this is everything that I believe still really, really hardcore about reality so that I don't have to realize that all my thoughts are just wisps of air and that kind of freaks me out. 'cause then I don't know who I am and actually I don't know up from down and oh my God, now I'm helpless. And that's a uncomfortable feeling because we need faith to get ourselves somewhere. It helps us get where we wanna get to ultimately, which is home rather than some other construct somewhere else where we're just going loopy loop around ourselves. So in order for us to deconstruct the spiritual ego, as I've said, we have faith. But we also must, must, must have compassion, specifically self-compassion. Self-compassion will allow us to actually give the love that all of these fear parts of our egoic self, all of these scared parts, all of these embarrassed parts, all of these unworthiness parts, all of these shame parts have been needing the whole time they've been needing love and compassion. They've been needing embrace and acceptance. They've been needing that integration and that healing in order to feel safe and be loved, in order to not basically act out this protector that covers them over, which is called the spiritual ego. The spiritual ego becomes a protector for all of that stuff, right? That's why it shoves it all down. Oh, now I feel better. I'm perfect. Right? Well, that was easy. So in order to no longer need to use that protection mechanism, we gotta actually pick up the rock and look at the little worms underneath. Right. We gotta pick up the protection of the spiritual ego, and look under what was there before that the spiritual ego became so convenient to cover up. Oh, I actually need to be liked by the people who I share myself with because it covers up my unworthiness. Let's be with the unworthiness. What is that? Where did it come from? Oh my God. Do you feel like you're three years old inside and you didn't feel, I don't know, hugged by your parents enough? Let's give ourselves a hug. Whatever that self to self work is, right? I love internal family systems. IFS work around taking care of all of our egoic parts. Simply being able to see, love, embrace, relate with, connect with, and integrate all these aspects of our psyche that are in pain, and we can do so with so much compassion. Why? Because we don't need to have shame because we're not taking anything personally. The more that we're aware that all of this just is what it is, there's nothing to take personally, it just is what it is. The more we can actually do this work rather than the whole denial and the takes us into spiritual bypass and all the rest. So, faith, compassion, and I'll add more, which we kind of already went into with the whole millions of times I've talked about falling off the cliff. But the other piece here that I would add is what, in psychology terms we would call tolerance for ambiguity. Tolerance for ambiguity, going into the don't know space. Like an astronaut in a rocket ship that's literally floating and just letting ourselves float and know that the rocket ship of our spiritual path, of our God nature is taking us where we need to go. Even though we're just floating. The people on the rocket ship, they're not running, they're not running towards the moon. They're just floating around eating a snack, and the rocket ship is just propelling itself towards the moon. Can we be that trusting? Yes. It takes faith. It also just takes an understanding that chaos, nihilism, dark night of the soul, all that stuff is normal. Part of the spiritual path. You know, when I was like, it's not fun. That's normal. We can normalize that. We can normalize the discomfort. So this is kind of awesome. This is awesome because for the ego, we have compassion pointing ourselves to the true nature that we actually wanna get to, which is simply unconditional love, peace, wisdom, compassion. We have faith and in between to get through the void space, we have tolerance for ambiguity. Those would be three skills that can help us get through step one, step two, step three, in a healthy way, and towards greater and greater dissolution. And greater and greater anchoring. And being and centering in the ground of true nature in order to look back at the rest of our egoic parts and be like, it's okay, baby. I got you. I have compassion for you. I have tolerance for ambiguity around, whoa, one more wave of this. And I have even more faith because I'm experiencing more and more what it's like to be on the other side of surrender, which is, yes, there is something that catches us and maybe it's not definable from where we can see, but we can trust that we can be crazy enough To go towards faith, in order to be in our actual spiritual self, in our actual true nature, and no longer in the spiritual ego. 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