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To All The Cars I've Loved Before Season 3 Episode 4

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Chris, an automotive enthusiast on Maryland’s Eastern Shore, discusses car culture and Porsche history with Christian and Doug. He takes us behind the Berlin Wall to his East German roots, where a Wartburg 353 from his grandmother ignited his automotive adventures. From mustard-yellow Wartburg restoration stories to the driving experience of a Ford Probe GT on Germany’s autobahn, this episode delivers car memories, classic cars nostalgia, and vehicle restoration insights. Plus, discover how this road trip through automotive history and automotive technology shaped his automotive lifestyle. Tune in for a journey of automotive culture, car stories, and vintage-era thrills that fuel your love for cars.

Chris loved the episode, "Aiden & Tom – VW Super Beetle Dream Car & First Car Memories" https://pod.link/1733902541/episode/65d1ba7f2f932d7716fc4ef4582e71b3

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Speaker 1:

and allow me to yank the lozenge out of my mouth. This is christian with to all the cars I've loved before your podcast where we talk we, we find interesting people with interesting cars because every car tells a story and, uh, this is what we do. Welcome back. It's been a little while. Uh, I was diagnosed with strep. It's a good thing I'm not in the same room with my co-host or guest today. It's kind of funny. When you go to the doctor today it can be anything under the sun. There's an eastern equine encephalitis in the news, but born by mosquitoes. There's the West Nile virus I think closer to my neck of the woods here in Pensacola, to my neck of the woods here in Pensacola, but your humble narrator here went to the doctor and have a just an everyday, lowly case of strep, thank goodness. So I'm healing with antibiotics, but I will be sucking on lozenges throughout the interview on the mend. Thank you. And how are you doing, partner? What?

Speaker 2:

you been up to. I'm doing great. Great to be back here with you. I'm glad you're on the mend and you're here for the listeners.

Speaker 1:

Absolutely.

Speaker 2:

Always here Taking one for the team.

Speaker 1:

Always taking it for the team, taking one for the podcast here. So, as usual, we watch the stats spiral upwards and we have some news for a poll that's out, because the way it works is through all of our different platforms and vectors, by reaching people. It's interesting to see which episodes are watched the most, where they're downloaded all over the world, and Doug is about to launch a new product for us here, kind of a survey to see what people think about what they're hearing, what they want to listen to. So very interesting. So what you got, partner? What's happening with that?

Speaker 2:

Yeah, so that'll be live by the time people hear this. Initially, we're just going to ask for feedback on the favorite episodes, right, we can look at all the numbers. But really, like a personal touch of feedback from people and um, probably have a fill in the blank there, like, let us know what you'd like to hear more of, right, whether it's um, you know, we've had some international folks, um kind of a preview of what we have today. Absolutely our guest today we've had a couple which was really fantastic.

Speaker 2:

There were such a lovely lovely couple People who just great referrals, and you know it's all been about cars. We've had a couple what I would call car celebrities and we hope to have some more. If somebody knows one, let us know. We always like to round out the season with that special gift back from somebody you'd see on YouTube or read about in the news but you wouldn't get to hear talking about cars, Indeed, Especially the personal piece of it.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, Additionally that's a good segue, perfect dovetail to email us. I love reading the email and interacting with folks Christian at carslovecom, he's Doug at carslovecom, so feel free to reach out. Check us out on the website, carslovecom or any of the streaming platforms Choice, Spotify, Apple, et cetera. Email reach out be part of it. There's no, as I tell people that I I was at a happy hour the other day and handing out cards to everybody. Hey, check us out. People say how do I get on the show? There's no magic. There's no magic, Just email text. Call me. If you know me, if you're a friend of mine, it's easy to get on the show, and If you're a friend of mine, it's easy to get on the show.

Speaker 1:

And people who say, oh well, I'm not much of a car person are typically some of the most interesting interviews, because it's about family, growing up, road tripping, parents, livelihood, what you do, what you want to do, and so that's led us to this point. So today's guest is a friend of one of my favorite guests. I mean, we interviewed my sister. But, to be honest with you, this guy, James McRae, was a real trip and we found him in a garage surrounded by vintage cars. This guy needs his own show. He's got the look, he's got the voice. His hands were black and gritty from some sort of grease. I hope it was automotive. But that has led us to today's guest. And Doug, could you tell us a little bit about how Chris came into our world?

Speaker 2:

Yeah, so the short of it, you gave part of it away. He's a friend of James McRae's, lives on the Eastern shore of Maryland, probably not far from James, and the story James told me initially he said you should interview Chris, given where he's from but also the fact that James bought his 911. And as we learned from Chris and we're going to share, that Chris met James because he was trying to buy a 911, that James ended up jumping ahead of the line.

Speaker 1:

And yeah, and you would think there would be some contention, but if you know James McRae you can't be mad at him. He's such a teddy bear. But I'm sure Chris wanted to. Sorry, anyway, didn't mean to interrupt. Please continue, doug.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, yeah. So you know we've got. Really I don't want to give it all away because I want Chris to talk about it, but we're going to hear about a car I've never heard of. And it was built behind the iron curtain of all places where Chris our guest grew up. Of all places where Chris our guest grew up. Chris Kalinske and he grew up in East Germany and lived there from birth approximately till 2001 when he came over to the US. I think I have that right, but, chris, please introduce yourself.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, nice to meet you guys. Yeah, chris, as you said, uh, yeah, met, uh, met your, your character witness, james, I guess, uh, through cars, uh, and we've been, we've been friends for for a while, actually, um, always around cars. He does a lot of work on work on my cars and we just hang out. He's opted to participate in the ride of our company, so that's really exciting. Yeah, he's just a great, great person, and he's also fascinating about this Vartberg that I have, and that's what kind of we were neighbors, shop neighbors for a while. I just stored my stuff and he works on it, and so that's how we kind of got to know each other. And then, yeah, like I said, I grew up in East Germany until the wall fell and then eventually moved over here, and so here we are until the wall fell and then eventually moved over here and uh.

Speaker 1:

So here we are, but should? I don't mean to jump anybody's train here, but should we start with grandmother doug, or was there another?

Speaker 2:

no, I think, I think um, I think, grandmother right, that would be how chris uh acquired his first car and tell us a little about her.

Speaker 3:

She's awesome. My grandmother spent a ton of time with her when I grew up. It was a really really close relationship. When it was time to get a car, she bought me this Wartburg um, and it was actually east germany, as you can imagine. We didn't have a whole lot of selection of cars. So my, my uncle, had a wartburg, which then got purchased by my father and, uh, when I got mine, I happen to have the newest one in the family, uh, and how does that?

Speaker 3:

happen. Yeah, I know it was, uh, it was interesting, um, but you know, I mean, there are great cars were they reliable?

Speaker 1:

did they leave you on the side of the road? They're not reliable at all. It just wasn't a big town, so no big deal.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, you know they were light so you can always jump start them. So that's funny. That's what I was thinking, yeah, but uh, no, mine had this um really uh weird habit of uh accumulating water in the fuel lines and every winter it would leave me stranded on every intersection it found. So I had to, like, heat up the fuel filter with uh, you know, with with some open fire to get it going again but uh, yeah, so I I ended up.

Speaker 3:

The one that my grandmother bought me was white and I ended up selling that because you know you're young and you go through cars. That's right. But eventually my uncle and my father had a mustard yellow one with brown interior. That was like the thing to have. So when I found the one I have now, it's obviously mustard yellow with brown interior and almost new conditions. So it's like a super flashback. Every time I sit in the car it's like I'm five years old and the smell, the feeling, it's just cool.

Speaker 1:

Was it hard to get that car? Was it hard to achieve and obtain that car, or easier than you would think, given the modern convenience of the internet, etc.

Speaker 3:

You know, as every car guy does, I guess, we're hanging out back then on eBay or Facebook Market these days and shopping cars. And I just found this one in Florida of all places, florida. So I imported it and I'm like shit, I'm buying it. So I bought it sight unseen. I was like just put it on truck and ship it up here and then I'll figure it out from here. And then, um, yeah, it's. It took a little bit of work to get it back to, to the driving conditions.

Speaker 1:

We had to like manufacture parts for it, because, sure, that was my next question.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, like the, the gear linkage we had to make from scratch, so so things like that it's kind of fun. But yeah, another friend that also James, knows really well did all the restoration work on my car and now it's like it essentially has 40,000 miles on it or something like that, so it's in essentially new condition because it just kind of, you know, quite frankly, it just sits around and does nothing except, you know, warm my heart when I look at it.

Speaker 1:

But other than that, now, how often do you drive it? Never.

Speaker 3:

Okay, I had all redone. It's like it's the perfect condition. I drove it once.

Speaker 1:

Gotcha be done.

Speaker 2:

it's like it's the perfect condition I drove it once, so gotcha okay. Well, I'm I'm hoping to come over to the eastern shore and see it someday, james james gave us a open invitation. I just with school and everything at kid school and everything. I just haven't had a chance to get over there, but it's not far from me, so yeah, I'd love to see you.

Speaker 3:

You should, yeah.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, it sits with my other eclectic course, yeah yeah, so straight you know, straight back you know 30, 30 years later, right, you went and found the same car.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, and the one I got is a is an 85, 1985, okay, nice, yeah, and it's uh. We didn't have many versions of it, obviously, but I found the deluxe edition which has a tow hitch on it, which was not normal.

Speaker 1:

It doesn't.

Speaker 3:

Sorry, go ahead, go ahead, go ahead. And it had like the headrest things on the seats, which is also which was new, I see. It had a radio, so that's cool.

Speaker 1:

And it doesn't look like I haven't called up on my monitor here it doesn't look like they could tow very much, maybe a small trailer.

Speaker 3:

They just don't look like they're very so funny enough, I don't know if you've ever seen the motor of the car, but it's a reverse-mounted three-cylinder two-stroke with 40 or 53 horsepower I think 47 or 53, something like that. But that motor was used for everything, these Germans. We put it in trucks, in utility wagons, in everything, and it was the motor to have right Gotcha. They're super simple. You can fix them on the side of the road, no big deal. But it's like it's actually remarkably, remarkably reliable if you don't have fuel issues for for towing and for running all over the place. So I mean, you know it's. It was, yeah, east Germans drove that thing all over the road.

Speaker 2:

My, my understanding one is it was a volkswagen engine no that was originally the one, the one that I got.

Speaker 3:

The white one had the volkswagen engine. Ah, okay, the old version had an abort.

Speaker 2:

Berg barker, okay, it was actually a work bird and um did uh the company that manufactured the workburg, did they? How far back did they go from manufacturing cars like before world war ii, or yeah?

Speaker 3:

it was? It was bmw, I see, and it was all like one one, one big company, um, and that got then split up and, funny enough, they called it EMW in Germany for Eisenacher Motorenwerke instead of Bayerische Motorenwerke. So you know, instead of Bavarian Motorworks it was Eisenach Motorworks where the plant was located. But yeah, that's yeah, they didn't make much progress. The design was but yeah, they didn't make much progress. The design was it looks very, very boxy like a 60s Volvo. Yes, very much, but it's got its charm. It certainly stands out?

Speaker 2:

Yep, for sure, that's something you're not going to see on the roads. No, you're not going to see at a car show, not in this country, for sure.

Speaker 3:

I took it to one car show when I had it just done and I parked it next to a brand-new Ferrari. Everybody was looking at my car Absolutely what is that. I was not too happy.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, so you sold that car and, thanks to the fall of the Berlin Wall and all the things that were going on, it enabled you to buy your next car right, which you wouldn't have been able to get access to only a few years later right, and that was a tell us, that was a Ford Probe GT, which is, of course, the vast opposite of the Wartburg.

Speaker 3:

It goes about 60 miles an hour and then you don't really want to go any faster. So you know, the Probe was awesome, especially as a 19-year-old in Germany on the Autobahn. You know, having a turbo car that can hold its own with any 911 or any Ferrari on the road is fun. Yeah, and yeah, I love that car, absolutely love that. I'm actually, you know, don't tell my wife, but I'm hunting for one. Oh boy, here we go again.

Speaker 1:

I get it left a I'm, I'm actually, uh, you know, don't tell my wife, but I'm hunting for one oh boy I get it.

Speaker 2:

I man. I remember when those probes came out and and they are such cool cars and futuristic looking yeah, a lot of people don't know they were actually supposed to replace the mustang. But mustang people went crazy and ford. Okay, we'll just call it a Ford and sell it alongside.

Speaker 3:

It was actually a Mazda 626 turbo duck with an adjustable right height, which was like totally new in 91.

Speaker 2:

Yep Digital dash, your version? I think yeah.

Speaker 3:

And they sold it with an artificial horsepower number or insurance reasons. So they said it was 147 horsepower, which was nowhere true. It had over 200. And it was so funny, the speedometer just kept going. It would just go around the clock because it would stop at 220 kilometers an hour. It would just keep going. But you're like, yeah, I'm probably going like 240, 250, something like that in that range kilometers an hour.

Speaker 1:

Just tell the when you get pulled over. Just tell the cop I was extrapolating, I was going roughly this fast, yeah.

Speaker 2:

Well, but he was doing that on the Autobahn, probably right. But he was doing that on the Autobahn, probably right, and in the parts that don't have a speed limit, right Certainly. And yeah, I know Christian's enamored. I've actually been on the Autobahn, not driving, but I've been to Germany a couple times for work, but maybe you can tell our listeners and Christian what it was like, what the Autobahn's like, right, everybody in the US thinks, oh, there's no speed limit. That's not true. I know about the left lane is for passing. Only People will flash you and you get out of the way as quickly as possible.

Speaker 3:

Yep, yep, yep, absolutely. So there's a certain percentage of the Autobahn that's no speed limit, and it's way more fun, of course, at night when there's nobody on it. So Autobahns in Germany are notoriously congested, which makes it less fun. But yeah, there's a certain order, right? So if you're not passing, you're not in the left lane period, you actually get ticketed for that. So you get ticketed for hanging out in the left lane, which is very fruitful, I think.

Speaker 2:

They should do that over here.

Speaker 3:

They should, totally should. It's frustrating, but on the flip side of that, you're not allowed to pass on the right either, which you know introduces certain behavior which is helpful. So, um, but yeah, no, I mean the wildest, the wildest experience. I'm going 160, 170 kilometers an hour, which is about 100 miles an hour, 110, something like that on the autobahn, just cruising along and look in the rearview mirror and I see a little tiny yellow dot, like really tiny in the mirror and not three seconds later my whole car goes like shakes over. I'm in the middle lane and uh, this I think it was a diablo or something just blew 300 kilometers an hour, just just ending. Still, so you can't hang out in the left lane because they're going to crash into you, right so, but so, yeah, that's it's. It's nice to drive. Actually it's really uh, it's some certain discipline on the road. Is is very fun and the cars are made for it. The cars are made for it.

Speaker 3:

The other thing that's really impressive about the aut Autobahn is that if there's no speed limit and it's all curves, there's no straight piece of Autobahn, because after five kilometers of straight piece of Autobahn you tend to pay less attention. So they by default design introduced curvy roads. Oh wow, attention span high. Oh wow, your attention span high. But you can book into a curve at a no speed limit autobahn with 200, 250 kilometers an hour and you know that the road can handle it if your car can. So it's not like you know where you have to be afraid of that the road is going to give you issues. You can rely on the road being able to handle the speed limit. That's, that's there or not there. So if you drive a proper car, it's, it's, it's a lot of fun. I mean, you can, you can bank through and and have a very entertaining drive and it goes quick.

Speaker 1:

That's interesting, that's really interesting. And so the road is a stupid question. But the road itself isn't, is in pretty good shape. Where I, where I live down here in the southeast united states, you kind of change from state to state to state very quickly, especially along the gulf coast. Here in florida, roads are different from alabama roads which are different from baldwin county roads which are different from in in in the amount of upkeep. Right, it is very different, very different. So is the whole thing concrete or any word on that? Oh, it's over-engineered.

Speaker 3:

I mean, they're notoriously like curved, so there's no standing water. Oh, so the water just kind of runs off and it's. I mean, the Autobahn is maintained not by the counties but by the state, so the downside of that is you have a constant construction going on all over the place, which is kind of frustrating, but when it's done it lasts a long time and it's also super thick in many layers of road, super thick in many layers of road. So not like here, where we're just putting a new little layer of asphalt on it and call it a day for a couple of years. It's like, I mean, the weather conditions are tougher. Right, we have a lot of snow.

Speaker 1:

That's true Especially where you are, yeah.

Speaker 3:

So you know they hold up really well.

Speaker 2:

Gotcha.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, but the downside is it's a constant construction zone everywhere.

Speaker 2:

Gotcha. So what happened to the probe? I know you got it up to some high speeds on the Autobahn, but we don't know what happened to it.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, I went and bought new tires and was on my way to buy new tires with not bought new tires. I was on my way to buy new tires with not so new tires. I overcooked it in the corner. Oh no.

Speaker 1:

In the rain.

Speaker 3:

I fully crashed it into the side barrier. That was very unfortunate, Very unfortunate, but you know it was.

Speaker 1:

So you have a fleet of cars, as it were, right now. I was kind of curious about maybe your favorite car. We know what car elicits the most, um, the most fond memories of your past. But what are you? What are the other couple you don't have to name during the cards, you can't if you want, but what are some other notable ones that mean something to you, that either evoke some sort of family response or something you want to do with the car?

Speaker 3:

um, I I have a weird collection of cars. They're not like for value or anything like that. I'm more interested in driving some cars or just having other cars, just because I want to have them like. I have have a 1929 Model A that I just sit around. It's in mint, perfect picture, perfect condition. And you know, it's one of those things you walk through an estate sale and you know you're just talking to the realtor and we're like, oh, that's a cool car and you make a lowball offer and then somehow they accept it and your wife's upset and it ends up in your warehouse so it's, the thing sits around and it's really cool with a rumble seat and everything.

Speaker 3:

I haven't driven it um you know an inch yet, so it's, uh, it's, it's, it's a cool car. I don't know what I'm doing with it. I don't know, I just wanted to have it.

Speaker 1:

You're going to keep it, or is that really irrelevant?

Speaker 3:

You'll keep it as long as it pleases you, kind of, yeah, I got you. Yeah, my favorite car was a 911 that I sold to Mr McRae, unfortunately. 911 that I sold to to, uh, mr mccray, unfortunately he is, uh, he's a very sweet talker and, uh, he talked me into selling it to him. A weak moment. I did, and then I didn't make it, two days before buying another 911.

Speaker 2:

So and right, well, that's what he enabled you to buy that car right.

Speaker 3:

Not really, because he made me buy a new one.

Speaker 2:

Your wife was like no more 911s unless you sell the one you have.

Speaker 3:

That's correct. Okay, that's unfortunately correct.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 3:

But I did sell it to him with the deal that I get first right of refusal when he ever wants to get rid of it, and unfortunately he doesn't wants to get rid of it and unfortunately he doesn't.

Speaker 2:

So I'm kind of waiting. Yeah, it's a beautiful car. What model 911 did you replace it with?

Speaker 3:

I bought a 2018 C2. Okay, nice, which is a. You know they call it base, but it's a monster. Yeah, it's a total jackal and hide car, you know. So it's wild. It's wild. It gets you in trouble all over the place.

Speaker 2:

Is it a convertible as well?

Speaker 3:

No, no, I went for the coupe on purpose. Yeah, I've had enough convertibles. And then my wife hates convertibles, so okay, she's like, if you want me to go in the car or drive it, and it's got to be a coupe. So okay, yeah, yeah management has spoken.

Speaker 1:

Management is open 100, 100%. Smart man, smart man. So yeah, we wind down here. Doug, did you have anything before we got into the rewilding site in Finland that I'd like to talk to Chris about?

Speaker 2:

Well, I think I can't help, because Chris mentioned it, asking him about the Singer 911. Absolutely, and I'll share a quick story. Of course I'm a car guy, so I've seen a lot of. I've learned a lot about singers. I went to the Peterson Automobile Museum. They have a singer out there in California. It is an awesome place. If you haven't been, it's worth it. I was there four hours. I could have used a couple more, but my girlfriend was with me. She was getting tired of it, but my kids and I a separate time. We went to LA and we went on a bus tour. My daughter wanted to see all the stars' homes and man. What goes around us but a green Singer 911.

Speaker 3:

And man that's a beautiful car. They are beautiful, aren't they? Yes, but not gorgeous. Yeah, yeah, yeah a couple million dollars.

Speaker 2:

It's a great car, right? Yeah, I know, right, I don't literally you have a.

Speaker 3:

You have a fairly substantial waiting list before you can get one yep, so yeah something yeah, something to look forward to.

Speaker 2:

Are you on the list, Chris?

Speaker 3:

Not yet. Not yet Okay, maybe after I'm done with this venture, hopefully.

Speaker 1:

Okay, fantastic, yeah, right. So as we close out here, I just wanted to ask Chris a little bit about something I found interesting when we were chatting with him before coming on air here. His business supports a rewilding site in finland, and I just love this. Could you talk about that a little bit more, chris? What, what that does and what it means to you?

Speaker 3:

yeah, it's, uh, it's essentially rewilding means reintroduction of wildlife and fauna into an abused area, essentially so. This one, uh is is a dedicated uh rewilding site to us, uh, it's. It's sizable 16 hectares, no, 16 acres, eight hectares, um. So it's um, and what it does it it takes. It used to be a peat moss farming plant, which is notoriously bad for CO2 release and reintroduces wildlife plantations et cetera, et cetera, so to keep the CO2 in the ground and not prevent it from releasing it. So for us we're in logistics and insurance and high transaction volume business it was really important to have a meaningful kind of participation effort that makes sense, instead of just buying CO2 certificates or whatever. That's not interesting to me. I want to have a meaningful, tangible impact. Uh, so we, we started there and so we're donating, donating money for every transaction that we see through our, through our system, um, and we're kind of expanding it from there. So that's really um, that's, that's kind of the, the, the goal to make something. That's you know giving back.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, yeah, giving back, that's lovely. Thank you for sharing that. Thank you for sharing that, was it. Is there anything else you'd like to share?

Speaker 2:

Tell us about you before we, before we let you drive along your merry way to one of your nine cars. Which car will he take today, hey?

Speaker 1:

some of them just hey, hey, they don't, they don't go anywhere.

Speaker 2:

He's got them bolted to the floor.

Speaker 1:

Can't steal, so don't drop, yeah exactly, exactly, exactly, exactly.

Speaker 3:

No, I actually just broke out my wrangler again and, uh, after not driving it for two years and I had the greatest time. It was like it was awesome. You know, yes, simple pleasures, right, it's like driving with with doors off and and the roof off and everything. It's like why don't I?

Speaker 1:

do this more often, and in your neck of the woods, the weather is about to be spectacular. Here in the next few months, the leaves are about to change, the snap in the air, so it was great. Well, thank you for your time and thank you for joining us, chris. It was just a delight meeting you. Likewise.

Speaker 2:

Likewise, I enjoyed it. Yeah, no, I can see Chris has more stories. Man, I would love to dig into the Model A and, you know, hopefully when I make it out to the Eastern Shore, that'll prompt some more stories and then we'll have Chris back if he's available.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, we'll just just go visit him and and maybe do a video interview that there could be some component of a video show on youtube as as we mature and as uh, as as the show sort of sort of moves into its next phase. So thank you again again, chris. Again a delight. This was another wonderful conversation. And to all the cars I've loved before where your podcast or it's so easy to be involved I'm at Christian at cars lovecom, doug is at Doug at cars lovecom. So drop us a line If you know us.

Speaker 2:

You know how to get ahold of us, say hi to Chris if you know him and anything from you and Doug, yeah no, I would say, even if you're not as Christian alluded to, even if you don't think you're a car person, you might actually have a great story to share. But you may have a friend who, hey, let's interview him. Such a good point, just like how James referred us to Chris. Tell us, we'll talk to him. We'd love to have him on him or her. Pardon me, and you know, if there's a dynamic duo couple like Amy and John out there, I'm sure there are more.

Speaker 1:

Wonderful people.

Speaker 2:

They're pleading each other's sentences about cars. We'd love to hear that too.

Speaker 1:

Excellent, so you know how to get ahold of us, carslovecom, or reach out on your podcast streaming platform of choice. Take care, we'll see you soon. Next episode Goodbye, happy driving.

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