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In this episode of To All The Cars I’ve Loved Before, hosts Christian and Doug explore that metaphor with Lisa Richer, founder of Journey2Bloom (https://journey2bloom.com) and a Leading Thought Partner and Consultant collaborating with individuals to navigate neurodiversity, address caregiver exhaustion, and foster a higher quality of life.

What You’ll Hear

  • BMW-Green Celica Confession: How a scholarship reward turned into a freshly repainted 1990 Toyota Celica—proof that you can change the paint yet keep the same inner workings.
  • Total Loss, Total Growth: The rainy-day crash that totaled Lisa’s first car, pushed her into a ’96 Acura Integra, and taught her why calm minds (and automatic transmissions) matter.
  • Under the Hood of Ourselves: Lisa explains how she helps parents, educators, and neurodiverse professionals “lift the hood,” understand their wiring, and fine-tune life skills—just like diagnosing a misfire before it becomes engine failure.
  • Caregiver Pit-Stops: Holistic and innovative solutions from the new Quality of Life™ platform, designed to refuel growth oriented women, caregivers and families so they don’t run on empty.
  • Car Memories & Culture: Family road trips in a seven-seat Acura MDX, Subaru reliability, and why Monster Jam’s thunderous sensory overload mirrors neurodivergent experiences.

And don't forget to check out Lisa's favorite episode with a dynamic student/instructor duo from Weber State University's Automotive Technology Program - https://www.buzzsprout.com/2316026/episodes/16384509-campus-of-cars-makenna-and-brandon-s-educational-restoration-adventures

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Christian:

You have found, to all the cars I've loved before, your authoritative podcast on automotive nostalgia, where every car tells a story, every car has a culture, and it's time to plug in, dust off, get a little grease under our fingernails. Hey, I love your shirt, by the way. Oh, thanks. Call back to a previous guest. The antique Ferrari restorer, Tom Young, graciously sent us a couple of shirts. Great guy, interesting guy, wildly skilled.

Doug:

Yes, his videos are just amazing. Perfection, knowledge, but not– he doesn't come across as a perfectionist when you talk to him.

Christian:

Yeah, and when you look at what the guy does is he has this garage full of Ferraris, and you've got to say– Well, he's just got to have a team of people, an interior specialist, motor, you know, a paint guy. He does everything himself. He's just a one-man band, and he tells his customers, it may take me eight months, a year, year and a half to get to your car, but, you know, it's in the right hands, and you know he's going to do it right, right? Isn't

Doug:

that what he said? He's going to do it to concourse, to win at those judging events.

Unknown:

Yeah.

Christian:

Yeah, and one interesting thing we were chatting about was the history of the Notre Dame Cathedral and the handcrafting and not taking any shortcuts and honoring history and that sort of painstaking eye for detail and attention to a job well done. Interesting guy. And, hey, is there a T-shirt like that with my name on it? Well, this

Doug:

shirt says Tom Young's name on it. Very nice. For everybody who's listening, it's TomYang.net. You can also find him on YouTube. But great videos. He was such a great guest. And, yes, there is a shirt up here in the northeast for you. If I see you soon enough, I'll give it to you. If not, I'll mail it to you. Don't worry. I'll steal it. It's

Christian:

what I do. I could probably give it to your son. Please do review, share, and download. If you like the podcast and you think you know someone that would enjoy it, please share. And if you think further they may like to be on it, just let us know. You can shoot us their name, number, email, and we will be in touch. But perfect segue because... We have a very fun guest today, and I'm going to hand off the introductions to Doug. So how did Lisa come into our world?

Doug:

Well, let's see. I met Lisa, I want to say it was probably close to 25 years ago. Does that sound right, Lisa?

Lisa:

Sounds about

Doug:

right. Yeah, we were friends. stayed in touch thanks to the power of the internet. Doug is so good at this, by the way. He's just very good at this. It's kind of my thing. I like staying in touch with people. I call myself the LinkedIn matchmaker, too, because I like connecting people job-wise. In fact, Christian, just a quick reference to our last podcast with Matt, the painter. There's a gentleman in my DeLorean club who's moving back east. He's He's a painter. And so I just happened to mention to him that, hey, we did an interview with a painter. So he asked to be connected with him. Maybe you can get him a job. So, yeah, I think you're what

Christian:

they

Doug:

call

Christian:

a super connector. But enough about you. Let's talk about Lisa. Lisa, how are you?

Doug:

Yeah.

Lisa:

I am good. And just another thing Doug and I have in common, I too am known as a connector and someone that- I can see that.

Unknown:

...

Lisa:

brings people together. So something that we, another thing that we have in common. And you had mentioned Ukraine, listening in. My husband's side of the family, they're from Kyiv. And my- Your oldest son is first generation American.

Doug:

Yeah, that's so awesome.

Lisa:

And little connections.

Doug:

Yeah, definitely. Lisa, you are self-described, before we get into your cars, you are a self-described serial podcast guest, otherwise known as you're down with OPP, other people's platforms, other people's podcasts.

Lisa:

And that's

Doug:

Lisa's term. I'm just reusing it. I thought it was very, very smart and funny. Just like reduce, reuse, recycles. Yeah. Yeah.

Christian:

Acronyms from the 90s can be new again.

Doug:

Yeah.

Christian:

And

Lisa:

more appropriately used.

Doug:

Thank

Lisa:

you. More appropriate to articulate on a friendly podcast.

Christian:

Indeed.

Lisa:

Yes. I find that in collaboration goes along with that connector thing. And I find that doing things in collaboration allows me to have a broader reach and more engaging conversations and keep my energy because people have asked me about starting a podcast myself for years. And I said other people's podcasts. And then I was like, oh, I just said APP. You got it. That's where that came from. Very creative.

Doug:

And you have been a guest on over 11 podcasts, maybe 12, including us. Where

Christian:

the Bakers doesn't.

Doug:

Yep. Yep. Broke the bank there. So at the

Christian:

end, we have to ask her what was her experience like on ours and how do we compare? Yep. Very curious. But go ahead.

Doug:

Sorry. I didn't mean to interrupt, Doug. You are fine. You are fine. We could talk to Lisa all day. But we do want to talk about– Lisa had an interesting experience with her first car, but I'm going to let her– Tell us about her first car, how she got it, what kind of car it was, whether it was a stick shift or automatic. There's a funny story there, apparently. But tell us about your first car.

Lisa:

All right. So my first car was a Toyota Celica. What year? It was a 90.

Doug:

1990, flip-up headlights. Love it.

Lisa:

Yes. Love

Doug:

it.

Lisa:

So actually, I think it was... I don't think mine had flip-up headlights.

Doug:

I think it did. I looked at a picture of a 1990 and I saw flip-up headlights.

Lisa:

Okay. Then it had to have flip-up headlights and I just didn't know that. So see, I'm not perceptive in some areas and very perceptive in others.

Doug:

They're making a comeback. No, they're not. But I love them.

Lisa:

I loved it. So it was a gift. It was a conditional gift. I would say. So I was an elite level athlete. My whole from not my whole life was an elite level athlete, but I started gymnastics at five and went all the way through through college. But in high school, my parents had said, you get a full scholarship, we'll buy you a car. And so that was part of that. That was that offering in the condition of getting that scholarship and I could keep the car as long as I kept the scholarship. Oh, wow. That was the conditions upon which I received my Toyota Celica. It was black with the gold pinstripe. Oh, the pinstripes. And it had the sunroof.

Doug:

Sunroof, nice, sporty. Automatic or five-speed?

Lisa:

It was 100% automatic. I cannot drive six shifts automatically. Between my executive functioning and ADHD and all the things I've learned about myself as an adult. Yeah, no. Now I know why I could never drive a stick shift. I could not do the three things and focus on the road at the same time.

Doug:

Gotcha. And I think you said that you maybe experimented driving stick shift and made some people the opposite of drunk.

Unknown:

Yeah.

Lisa:

Yes. Passengers,

Doug:

passengers.

Lisa:

A passenger. So I was typically the designated driver often in the early years of end of high school, early years of college. And my friends weren't always. And she had a six shift and I drove us. We were in outside of we were somewhere in the Jersey Shore. And we were driving from our side to wherever we had to go over a bridge. So by the time we got through the little town and over the bridge, both of the passengers were sober. Because it took me that long to be able to focus and do that. So I got us where we needed to go, but it was not pretty.

Doug:

And that was the first and last time?

Lisa:

That was actually the first of two times. Okay. Other people tried to get me to learn it. They said, there's no way you're not going to be able to drive this. And then after that second try, that was it. They didn't let me use their car because the clutch was going to go in the one time I drove it. And I said, I'm not interested. Yep.

Doug:

Well, we won't put you in a right-hand drive car with a stick shift because, you know, who knows? Although I'm thinking about getting one of those just to train my other side of my brain.

Christian:

That's very neurodivergent, isn't it? Yeah. You train yourself to do something that you're not used to.

Doug:

Yep.

Christian:

Got to do it. That's one way to do it.

Doug:

Challenge yourself. Yeah. And there's another neat story about this car which makes me think about a previous guest we had who's a painter who painted cars. And you did something with your first car that I think a lot of people wouldn't do. You painted it, right? You had the color changed.

Lisa:

It was only two years old and I had the color changed. I had it changed to BMW green. And specifically BMW green. So a car that I couldn't afford, but that I absolutely loved was a 325i BMW convertible. And I've mostly seen it in red for my younger years. However, I loved the BMW green. And so I found a body shop that was willing to paint my car. Toyota Celica, BMW green and put the black pinstripes. So I kept the pinstripes and I felt like I had a brand new car.

Doug:

Nice. Nice. And were your parents surprised when they saw it?

Lisa:

I did tell them and they were fine with it.

Doug:

Okay. They're like your money, your car.

Lisa:

A little hook to keep me at college because I was not very happy there. So I think it was like, oh, we'll give you that.

Doug:

Well, some people dye their hair red. You just had your car painted green.

Lisa:

I did dye my hair red at some point in college, Doug. Oh, red or pink

Doug:

or whatever color

Lisa:

you have. That wasn't enough for me. I had to do something bigger and bolder.

Christian:

So what is BMW green? Is it that kind of really deep, foresty, glittery green color?

Lisa:

Exactly what it is.

Christian:

Yeah. Yeah. It wasn't kind of that. I remember the flat red BMWs of the 80s. Boy, you had arrived if you had one of those cars. They were just very distinctive. That was all the cachet. But yeah. Okay. Sorry, Doug.

Doug:

No, no, no. You're fine. So what happened to that now green, BMW green Toyota Celica?

Lisa:

Oh, that's a story. So I was living in North Carolina.

Doug:

Uh-huh.

Lisa:

And I worked at a Y in Durham. I was their gymnastics director and I lived in Chapel Hill. So I had to drive down what was called 15501 to get there. And there were, I think I'm saying the right road, but there were double lanes going each way and there were service roads that would cross over. And I was driving on the straightaway And somebody came out of one of the service areas. So you had to turn off the main road through a service area to get to all the car dealerships. Right. And somebody was turning out of one of those side areas onto the main road. And they cut me off while it was raining. My car spun around and landed, like, into the ongoing traffic. Oh. Thank goodness the person that I was heading towards was an off-duty police officer. And his... Reaction time was extremely good. And my car was totaled. And that's when I got my second car. Not a fun story, but yeah. But you walked

Christian:

away. You walked away. I did. Service roads always make me a little nervous. I'm not really sure why. If it's the kind of people at speed that are right next to each other, and then you have this guy coming off the road here, and he's going to cut in front of this service road. There's always a lot of action in a service road. There are only two little bitty lanes. Absolutely. Yep. This

Lisa:

was like a couple lane highway, like not quite a highway, but I guess like here it would be like 100. Maybe like driving on 100 here and where I am in Ellicott City area. And the person just came on into the road and was raining. And thankfully there were witnesses who waited that saw the whole thing. And they said it was... Wasn't me. I mean, it was going to be hard to be me when I was driving on the straightaway and they were on the side, but yeah, it was, it was pretty scary, but somebody was watching out for me that day.

Doug:

Yep. So, so you didn't end up with a BMW next though, did you?

Lisa:

No, I didn't. A green

Doug:

BMW.

Lisa:

What was your next car? My next car was an Acura Integra.

Doug:

Okay.

Lisa:

It was a white. 1996,

Doug:

I think he said.

Lisa:

I believe so. 96 or 98. 96. I'm pretty sure it was 96.

Doug:

Okay.

Lisa:

White with tan leather interior.

Doug:

Okay.

Lisa:

It was a great car.

Christian:

Man, I'm going to give you a little virtual handshake representing the Acuras from the 90s, from the middle 90s. I had a 32 TL. I remember. 96. Gorgeous car. I got more compliments on that car. Black with a little gold pinstripe going down the side. It was it was lovely. I love that car. I had that car for a long time. Then, yeah, had the third kid and had to get rid of it. I tried to squish three kids abreast in the back seat and a stroller wouldn't fit in the back. And I said,

Doug:

oh, that's when you want to do it.

Christian:

Yeah. No, no. I think I got a you. I get the expedition after that.

Doug:

Maybe. There was some point where you both had minivans. Man, I love a minivan. I

Lisa:

love a Honda minivan. I refuse to do the minivan.

Christian:

I'll take it all day.

Lisa:

Not a soccer mom, so I said I won't do a minivan.

Doug:

Well,

Lisa:

I'm not a soccer mom either. Yes, I'm a soccer

Doug:

dad. So the Integra was replaced with another Acura? Is

Lisa:

that right? Oh, yes. It was replaced with the MDX.

Christian:

Yes! Same as mine, 2007 Acura MDX. Look at us. We're Acura twinning. By the way, you know what Acura stands for, right? No. I do not. Another costly, unexpected repair again? That's it. That's Acura.

Doug:

Well, that's only when they get to be like 20 years old like yours. Nope. It's only 18. Hey, we're getting there. But yeah, what can you say? What color was the MDX, Lisa?

Lisa:

It was silver.

Doug:

Okay. My favorite color.

Lisa:

black interior

Doug:

yep that's the best combination

Lisa:

the dvd player it was the whole nine yards yeah and the guy sold me on it we had a i don't know joseph must have been two months old at the time and we were there looking at new cars because we knew we wanted something bigger than what we had and the guy said we i said i need to go change my son's diaper and he said come on out here let's Do it in the back of the trunk.

Christian:

Yeah, this one has the changing table option. You'll love it.

Lisa:

Right. Brown pink stripes. I'm thinking first time on, the car is going to explode in the back of the car, and this isn't going to end well. But instead, we left there with an Acura MDX.

Christian:

I dig it. That is fantastic. So, okay. So, you're saying you went from the Acura Integra to the MDX? Yes. Yes. That's interesting. So, so what you did, so you obviously like the Acura product, the Integra way too small. And I find with my MDX, it is just the, it's just a great size automobile. Um, you know, you could, uh, third row is not an option standard, uh, pull 5,000 pounds with it, right? You You know, and you can haul a boat, you can haul a trailer, you can haul anything you want. So truly a Swiss Army knife. So anyway, sorry, I didn't mean to interrupt. Please keep telling us about the MDX.

Lisa:

That car drove everywhere with us for a very long time. Kept us, kept our kids engaged, kept us engaged, had all the bells and whistles. It was a wonderful car. I absolutely loved it.

Doug:

How long did you own it for? Great question. All good.

Lisa:

If

Doug:

you remember. I

Lisa:

don't even remember. I think, I want to say I traded it in for the Subaru that I have now.

Doug:

Oh, the current Subaru, which is a Subaru, what model?

Lisa:

Outback.

Christian:

Outback. You said Outback, but you know, she reminds me, she's talking about, you like your Outback, right?

Lisa:

I do like it. I also had a Maxima in there at some point. I can't remember when I had that. But the steering wheel was my favorite part of the Maxima because it was a heated steering wheel. And none of my other cars had that at the time. But the Subaru is an Outback. And I got it, I want to say, in 2016. Yeah.

Christian:

Who was it? We had Melissa on in season one. Who had a Subaru?

Doug:

She has a Subaru Ascent, which is the largest Subaru that you can get. Yeah. She loves her. She loves hers. She does love it, yeah.

Lisa:

They did not have the seven-seater when I got my

Doug:

Subaru.

Lisa:

It wasn't out yet.

Doug:

I see. I see. Gotcha. My girlfriend has a Subaru as well, Crosstrek, but it's a plug-in hybrid. It's a real nice car.

Lisa:

Oh, interesting. That's the newer Crosstrek. My best friend has a Crosstrek, but her model didn't have the hybrid, but now they do.

Doug:

Yep, yep. There aren't many of the plug-in hybrids, but she found one. So, yeah, it's a neat car.

Christian:

Well, that takes us through the automobiles, but you know what? There's more to Lisa than just a shiny repainted car. Lisa, tell us a little bit about what you do and what your passions are. When you're not painting cars. Yeah, when you're not, yes, and coloring your hair a different color.

Lisa:

Let's be clear, I did not paint the car. And my mother-in-law, love her to death, she colors my hair. She owned a hair salon. I've been very lucky. I've had my hair colored a lot, but I've always had somebody else color it. My car got colored by somebody else too. So that is not something I'm passionate about or something that I do well. So, gosh, so what do I do? The work that I do is really my life's purpose, I believe. And the business I own is called Journey to Bloom. And the name came from my great aunt, Mildred Bloom. So yeah, so Bloom is a family name. But it really resonated with me. She and I were the black sheeps of our family. And so she's my favorite great aunt. Love my other one too, but this one and I just, we just really got along in a different way. And even my logo is, if you look at it very closely, there are hearts as the petals and the leaves is actually a infinity heart as well. Never ending ebb and flow. And so, What the business is, is I am a neurodiversity consultant and I focus on simplifying the neurodiverse learning journey by offering personalized support, education, and advisory services for neuro distinct professionals and parents of neurodiverse learners. I, go ahead.

Christian:

No,

Lisa:

no, please continue. Please continue. And so I do that in three ways. I work with parents and educators navigating the neurodiverse learning journey through the school systems. I work with professionals that may realize they're neurodistinct or just want to understand how to work with their children better, whatever the case is. Sometimes they're trying to figure out how to navigate the corporate world because they're also neurodistinct like I was, and they aren't quite getting people to understand them, how they think. So there's like the gaslighting and all those things that come into play. And the third way is working with organizations and really helping them understand different neurotypes and how to navigate and engage across those neurotypes and tying in what I like to call the art of relationship building. And because I do things very differently I start in the middle and then I work backwards. So I don't do top down, bottom up. I do middle out and then fill in the blanks from there. And so I help others understand that it's not always that it has to be black and white. And so it's my passion, but it's also my core business. You asked what else I'm passionate about. And there's another... offering that I've become part of, that I was invested in time-wise for the last about three years. And it's called A Cheap Quality of Life. And we just did our official opening on Saturday, this past Saturday.

Christian:

Congratulations.

Lisa:

Thank you. It's very exciting. I am the Integrative Collaboration Officer for the company. And we really help caregivers build their energy, connections, and clarity Anyone who offers care to another person is a caregiver. So whether it's your profession, you are the person being cared for or vice versa. And we are really, the goal here is really to have a platform for integrative empowerment and wellness, redefining what it means to be a caregiver in the 21st century, because we don't want people to have to sacrifice themselves in the process. Yes. So we're, bringing both sides together to offer a place to learn and grow both from the wellness and the empowerment sides of the, of the world. We have some different assessments that we're doing and things like that. So those are the two core business offerings that I, that I, that I'm invested in. Yeah.

Christian:

Yeah, I think that's beautiful and needed. And you take this holistic approach from youth to the adults. They both need help, a little extra help, and two very different sets of what's happening. You also mentioned the caregivers, and that's very important. So these people that are looking out for these others, they need help too. They need support. They need somebody to talk to. Any help that can be provided. I just think that's wonderful. That is God's word. Thank you for that. I just think that's wonderful. I

Doug:

think that is wonderful. As a parent of two neurodivergent kids and then who learned himself later that he is neurodivergent, I am so thankful that you're doing this for other people. I wish I could contribute. But I do stuff about podcasts and cars.

Unknown:

Yeah.

Lisa:

Well, I think that though you have contributed. I mean, Doug, we've known each other quite some time and I've learned about different program options and things that I can gift to clients or people that come and connect with me. And it's back to full circle from the beginning of today, right? We were talking about being those connectors and being in collaboration, right? That's what this is all about, you know, is the giving back. And I want to help people help themselves in a way that I wasn't helped at first, but I was surrounded with like my dream team of people. When my oldest first got diagnosed, it was a long journey to get there. And they've traveled with me all these years. And I see myself in helping to bring that to other people and meet them where they are. No, they're not alone because it's hard to be a parent to begin with. and a caregiver and it's even harder to be one of one or more neurodivergent individuals or people that are going through different things that require unique supports and understanding that many people are judgmental and they just don't, they don't understand it and the fear comes out as combativeness and anything I can do to help change that way of thinking and we can all grow and be better together and let go of social norms that somebody said was so, that's something I'm always going to lean into, which is why I sit on boards and I'm an advisory chair. I mean, I'm a board chair on an advisory board because I want to continue to help grow and give back.

Christian:

Thank you. Well, you are a saint. That's wonderful. Thank you. Thank you for all that you do.

Doug:

If people want to find you... Sorry, Christian. If people want to find you... I think your website here is journey2bloom.com. Is that the best way to find you?

Lisa:

Yes. And my email address is lisa at journey2bloom.com. And if you're looking for me on LinkedIn or on Facebook, I believe that both of them have my maiden name in the middle. So it's Lisa Lazar, L-A-Z-A-R, Richard.

Unknown:

Okay.

Christian:

Fantastic. And as we guide the podcast gently to the off ramp here, one last question for you, Lisa. I see that you have your that's an Orioles hoodie, right? Or an Orioles sweatshirt that you

Lisa:

got.

Christian:

You're a big fan. How often do you make it to Camden Yards?

Lisa:

So I did not grow up an Orioles fan, but my kids have drilled pirates

Christian:

fan.

Lisa:

No, I was actually a Yankees fan. Well, I was a Phillies fan really little because I met Tug McGraw. We did an exhibition at Philly Stadium and I got to sit on Tug McGraw's lap and hold the microphone. I'll have to send that photo to Doug.

Christian:

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Love

Lisa:

it. The Phillies were my team and then it shifted to the Yankees. That was my mom's team. But my children and my husband are big Orioles fans. So to answer your question, um, Many times. We actually gone there many, many times. We have like a partial package now where we try to go to at least five or six, if not more games a year. It's just such a great park. Even when I was a Yankee fan, my best friend and I would meet in Baltimore to go to the Yankee Orioles games just because of the stadium was so amazing.

Christian:

Yeah. And if, if you've not been, and if you have a chance, the whole inner Harbor area, Camden yards, taking a Ravens game, Orioles game. It is a great, great way to spend an afternoon, a weekend, get a hotel there, take everybody down. You will not regret it. So how are you feeling about the upcoming season?

Lisa:

Great big

Christian:

shrug.

Lisa:

I was shrugging, you know, right, because I know I'm very animated. My younger son is is very disappointed that Santander will not be part of the team next year.

Christian:

Yep.

Lisa:

So that was where my shot came from. I do think that there is so much goodness and so much raw talent. I think there's a lot of good years ahead. They just need to figure out how to play in the playoffs, and that comes with time. Amen.

Christian:

Amen. And it looks like this right across the wire. We have agreed to terms with outfielder Dylan Carson. on a one-year contract for the 2025 season. So everybody go check it out. All right, Lisa, last, last question. I promise. How did our podcast compare to all the other podcasts?

Lisa:

Be honest. No, I will be honest. This was the most unique one I've ever done. All right. Very neurodivergent. Tying the car piece into the storyline. I didn't know how I was going to feel about it. And I know Doug... prompted me, you know, and you guys gave me some questions. That's how you knew about some of the cars. But I didn't know what to expect and which I love the unexpected, but I thought it was really neat how that you have this love for cars and you find a way to tie it into the experiences. I found it interesting that some things came up that I had forgotten about when we were talking about the cars, they really do have deeper meaning. And I think that's a beautiful thing that you guys are bringing to the surface. Thank you. Thank you for meaning to the cars. The other thing that's very unique is I've never been on a podcast where there were two hosts. So that was also very unique. And with my brain, I, ADHD and trying to, the executive functioning, I always write notes so I can just kind of stay on track.

Christian:

Me too, me too.

Lisa:

What I found very interesting though was, yeah, was that the way that the conversation kind of ebbed and flowed, it was really natural. And so not knowing how it would be when there were two people on with like three of us essentially, right? Right. I thought it was really neat and it was fun. I'd love to do it again sometime, but I definitely, I love what you guys are doing. Thank

Christian:

you.

Lisa:

Great spin. on the podcasts that are out there that are typically one person with a microphone. You know, I just think you guys are doing it differently and I love unique and different things. So I celebrate you guys for what you're doing.

Christian:

You are very kind and wonderful. We appreciate your kind words. And it's interesting that set up the soul, the heart. This is all Doug. This is Doug's pet project. Maybe the project of his lifetime. We'll see. But it was your idea. Yeah. There's something special about the third person that I can't really describe. I mean, it takes great chemistry, and I've known Doug even longer than you've known Doug. But it does take chemistry, and there's something about the third voice that just kind of helps things go. I don't know why that is. Yeah. Anyway, but you've given us a lot to think about. You've been a fantastic guest. Thank you for taking our podcast for a spin. And if, listener land, if you like what you heard, I'm Christian at carslove.com. He is Doug at carslove.com. She was Lisa. Lisa, we had a ball. Thank you and come back anytime. Thank you. Thank you, Lisa. So that was the... We appreciate you listening. We will see you next time. Thank you, ListenerLand.

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