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Exploring the Connection Between Fitness and Job Success
Unlock the secrets to a more productive workday with insights from our special guest, Dr. Matthew Chow, a leader in mental health at TELUS Health. Together, we unravel the powerful link between physical activity and workplace productivity, supported by data from the TELUS Health Global Mental Health Index. You'll discover how physically active employees tend to take fewer sick days and boost their productivity, and learn about TELUS Health's successful well-being programs that have significantly reduced sick leave and disability rates. Dr. Chow and I also tackle the often-challenging task of maintaining exercise motivation in our busy lives, sharing practical strategies for integrating more movement into everyday routines.
Shift your perspective on desk jobs by exploring innovative ways to incorporate physical activity into the workday. From standing desks to walking meetings, we provide actionable tips for breaking up long hours of sitting and fostering a workplace culture that champions well-being. Employers play a crucial role in this transformation, and we highlight inspiring examples from organizations that have successfully prioritized employee health. With a focus on active commuting and short, focused meetings, we aim to inspire a dynamic and health-conscious work environment that values open communication and supports mental and physical well-being.
Finally, we delve into the broader trends in workplace wellness, examining the TELUS Mental Health Index findings on the impact of health-focused employer policies on mental health scores. We address pressing issues like rising anxiety, depression, and sleep disorders alongside the financial challenges that exacerbate these mental health concerns. Despite these challenges, there's hope in the increasing availability of mental health support and wellness programs. Wrapping up, we underscore the importance of continued research and innovation in promoting active lifestyles and enhancing overall workplace wellness, while also offering solutions like the Amsela chair for improved pelvic health. Join us as we navigate the intricate connections between physical health, mental health, and productivity in today's workplaces.
Good evening. Do you know, the last couple of weeks I've been quite busy. I had a big event and then I was traveling and I just wasn't able to do the physical activity that I normally do In adults. Physical activity contributes to prevention and management of non-communicable diseases like cardiovascular disease, cancer, diabetes. It also reduces symptoms of depression and anxiety. It enhances brain health and can improve overall well-being For me. I was jet-lagged, I was probably tired going into it, and then I had a really busy vacation and then I was jet-lagged and I noticed that I was just so tired every single day but I hadn't gotten back to exercising. Well, I got back to it today and I am glad I did, because immediately I noticed an improvement in my level of energy and I'm looking forward to the next time that I exercise as well. On November 19th, TELUS Health released findings of the third and final Global Mental Health Index for 2024. It turns out physical activity may affect workplace productivity as well.
Speaker 1:Good evening. I'm Maureen McGrath, registered nurse, nurse, continence advisor, sexual health educator and host of this podcast. Thanks so much for tuning in. I appreciate all of your follows. I'm so excited to talk about this final global mental health index because exercise is so important. Joining me on the line to discuss this is Dr Matthew Chow, a clinical instructor and specialist in child and youth mental health, who currently serves as the chief mental health officer at TELUS Health. Previously, he served as president of Doctors of BC from 20 to 2021. Good evening, Dr Chow. How are you?
Speaker 2:I'm doing great. Thanks for having me today.
Speaker 1:Thank you so much for joining the podcast again. This is not your first rodeo here.
Speaker 2:It's great to be back.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, thanks so much, and this is a subject that I'm extremely interested in. You know I'm a big exerciser. It's very helpful for me, you know. It helps me to be productive in life, it helps me to sleep, it helps my energy, and I do notice that if I don't exercise, I'm more tired than normal. And that's a little bit counterintuitive because some people might think that, you know, exercise would make them tired, and it can certainly do that as well. You know understanding this report. I'd like you to break down the key findings of the TELUS Mental Health Index and explain the correlation between physical activity and reduced productivity loss.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so we survey thousands of workers every month to look at their health indicators like their mental health, how many sick days they're taking, what their overall well-being looks like and what we're seeing a very clear signal that links physical health and mental health, as well as people's productivity at work.
Speaker 1:Which is so interesting, because I don't think people tie it to their workplace productivity necessarily.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and like you pointed out earlier, people often think about physical activity as something to do when they've got, you know, some extra time. Exercising actually contributes to better emotional health, better mental health, reduced anxiety and just a much easier time at work. You know, the trick is the motivation aspect, and even as a doctor I know that in the dark, draggy days of winter it can be hard to motivate myself to get out there and be active. But there are absolutely some concrete things that people can do for themselves and employers can do to encourage physical activity.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and this is important information for employers to know as well, to actually promote their employees to be able to maybe have walking meetings or, you know, set aside some time for exercise. And that was one of the key findings was. Well, tell me about one of the key findings about the productivity between employees who were physically active and those who weren't.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so something we found was that people who are physically active lose 10 fewer work days of work in a year than people who are not physically active, you know. So that's basically a two week difference between the physically active people and the folks that are not physically active. So that is a massive difference. And you know, we've even seen this, you know, in our own company here at TELUS and TELUS Health. When we implemented workplace well-being programs, when we gave people access to benefits like virtual fitness classes and fitness passes, we actually saw our sick leave and disability rates drop by 10%, which is a significant difference.
Speaker 1:That is really significant, because sick time costs companies a lot of money, not only just the productivity, but there's also a fiscal component to that as well.
Speaker 2:Absolutely. This is a finding that cannot be ignored. This link between physical activity and productivity and sick time, and just for ourselves, for our own personal well-being, I think this is an important finding that you know being physically active isn't just optional. It's actually essential to having our ongoing well-being, and part of the sneaky part of this and I've experienced this myself and I know you have too, and you alluded to it earlier it's the sneaky part about it is that you know, when you're feeling tired, when you're feeling down, is when you're most vulnerable to to sort of falling off the wagon and not being physically active. Um and so that is. That's pretty sneaky, right. That makes it, that can make it quite, that can make it, uh, make it make it more of an intractable problem. And so you know there are some tricks, though, to help motivate ourselves, motivate each other, motivate employees to get more active.
Speaker 2:Part of it I just spoke about, you know, even with our own company, which is, you know, when you make it part of the company culture, when you actually make well-being a core aspect of your company culture, when you have your entire organization participating in these well-being challenges, when you have your entire organization downloading a well-being platform so they can actually track their progress and gamify it a bit and have awards and prizes.
Speaker 2:That's when you start to see people become more physically active and also when you got a social aspect to it. You know we are social creatures, human beings, we need, we need social interaction. Even even the most introverted among us need social interaction. And so when we attach physical activity to social things like um, like a running club, you know, a tennis class when we have accountability, when we schedule these activities together, when we go for a run together, when we go for a hike together, when we go riding our bikes together, and there's that accountability and social peer pressure piece, we are far, far more likely to follow through we are far, far more likely to follow through.
Speaker 1:Absolutely. I play tennis and I read a study recently where people who play tennis live, on average, I think, 9.2 years longer. And that's, in part, not only the physical activity Tennis is quite a physical game You're using every muscle in your body but also the social component of it as well. And I mean, I don't think I'd survive a winter on the West coast of Canada without, you know, being able to play indoor tennis. I'm not a gym person. I like to work out outdoors, I like to swim, I like to hike, bike, that kind of thing, you know, and people have different things that they like to do physically, and you know. I think also, when companies provide, you know, a spending account for people to perhaps purchase a bike or, you know, purchase some sporting equipment, because not everybody likes to go to the gym, that can also be very helpful as well. Why do you think physically active employees experience fewer lost work days compared to sedentary counterparts? What mechanisms are at play here?
Speaker 2:compared to sedentary counterparts. What mechanisms are at play here? Yeah, so what the research is clearly pointing to is, you know, physical activity drives higher mood, it makes us feel better. You know, it releases sort of happy chemicals in our brain endorphins they're called which you know give us a better outlook on life and make us feel good and give us pleasure. There's also the physical sorry, the social aspect of physical activity, because a lot of physical activities are done with other people and then that propels us to be in sort of social engagement, social relationship with other people. That promotes our well-being, that promotes our health, and social isolation is actually a critical epidemic of our times. We're seeing a strong signal in terms of people feeling socially isolated and anxious and that driving lower outcomes. The physical activity also drives a lot of physiological changes or body changes, such as lower blood pressure, better heart health, reduces our risk of chronic diseases like diabetes, and all of those also improve our overall well-being and outlook on life.
Speaker 1:So lots of different mechanisms, some of them we're still discovering, so lots of different mechanisms, some of them we're still discovering, but what's clear is that link between the physically active people and we've certainly had a lot of people who've shifted over to work from home since the pandemic and this particular patient was, you know, had anxiety, was sad, felt that they had gained weight, didn't like their body, you know, was, you know, having issues in the relationship. It affected their desire and you know it's. They worked from home. Now they could go into the office, but they got themselves to a point where they didn't want to go into the office. They felt they had nothing that fit. You know. The report touches on mental health. How does regular physical activity improve not just physical health but also mental well-being, and how does that translate to better productivity?
Speaker 2:Yeah, so we have observed for decades now that there is an association between people that are physically active and better treatment outcomes for clinical disorders like depression or anxiety. So this has been an observation that we've probably had for decades, and more recent research evidence has clarified that this is a reality. This is a real effect that people are physically active also have better mental health, and it turns out that extends to people who are not experiencing clinical disorders, just regular folks, just regular folks, and the physical activity improves their mental health and stabilizes their mental health and promotes good mental health as well. Now you pointed out a very interesting clinical scenario, right, which is someone that's working from home, getting socially isolated, experiencing changes in their body, and then now, you know, now expressing a reluctance to return to work, yet probably at the same time, craving social interaction, wanting some at least some social interaction, and that's something we're seeing a lot of as well.
Speaker 2:You know we've got an entire generation of workers who, you know, started working during the pandemic. Many of them never worked in an office, their interviews were done online, and so these folks are now coping with a workplace that's rapidly evolving, and you know there's been some highly publicized examples of workplaces that are compelling people back to work, you know, the Federal Public Service being one example, but a number of other prominent firms as well, the banking sector, has all returned to work as well, and although there are certainly some critics of those policies, one thing that cannot be denied is that there are also benefits to being in the office at least some days of the week, because it promotes those social interactions and it also promotes a degree of physical activity, especially in terms of active transportation.
Speaker 1:You know, like walking, cycling, that can contribute to our well-being ladies, let's talk about something we don't often talk about pelvic floor health, whether it's postpartum changes, aging or just the demands of everyday life, many women struggle with bladder leaks and a lack of self-confidence. But what if I told you there's an effortless solution meet the mcella chair, just 30 minutes, fully dressed, and it will do thousands of kegels for you, strengthen your pelvic floor, improve intimacy and feel confident again. So say no to incontinence and start to enjoy life again, leak free. Ask your doctor about the Emcella chair. For more information, go to wwwemcellacom. That's wwwemcellacom. Many workplaces still involve long hours at a desk. You know, some people are really sedentary and they're sitting at a desk all day long. What strategies do you think employers can implement or what can employees do to encourage themselves to move more throughout their workday?
Speaker 2:That's a great question. The workday, that's a great question. It's a question facing more and more people as we move to a knowledge-based economy where there's people in front of desks looking at screens all day. A couple of pointers. One is introduce movement into the workday. So a practical way to do that is take at least one break every hour, get up and move, go up and down the stairs, uh, walk around the block, um, just anything to keep your circulation going and and to stay active.
Speaker 2:You know some people have would choose to use a standing desk, you know, for example, so that they're, uh, they're moving around and a bit more active and not sitting as much. Um, you know there's, you know there are some, you know some folks that have commented about sitting being the new smoking, and so getting up and moving around is imperative and can become part of a workday, even for a knowledge worker. Taking meetings while walking, you know I encourage folks to join calls in such a manner like, for example, using a wireless headset, so that they can be moving around during a moving or during a meeting. Taking meetings outside, you know, is another idea Certainly easier in Canada when the weather's nicer, but another thing that can help out and also setting some workplace standards and boundaries and policies around making sure people aren't spending back-to-back-to-back days and hours doing meetings.
Speaker 1:You know, and you know certain European and Scandinavian countries do this really well, where they actually mandate that. You know you have to have a certain amount of break time for each hour of sort of sedentary time. I think that's something we can certainly. I mean, sometimes people look at me sideways. I mean if it's just you're meeting with one person, it's like why don't we just go for a walk and meet? And I just don't think that meetings should last any longer than one hour. That's just kind of my rule and there should be like four things that are covered.
Speaker 2:That's a great rule because there's also some neat literature around the human intention span and you know Cole's Notes version of that is it's not that long. Actually, there's some evidence that our attention spans are actually declining over time, probably because we're being bombarded with electronic messages all the time, and so whereas folks used to be able to sit down for a couple hours and read a book, for example, you know, now it's more and more.
Speaker 2:You know quick hits, you know short article yeah headline yeah, 30 second video and so yeah, telling people that they've got to sit through a meeting that's more than an hour long is an exercise in futility. Most people don't have that kind of attention span, and so it's it makes sense to break that up, and, and if you can break that up with physical activity, so much the better and employers to have this conversation.
Speaker 1:That's why the final Global Mental Health Index report is so important, because I can see where employees might be nervous. To ask employers that, you know, is it okay if I go for a walk during my break, or is it okay if I take this call, you know, while taking a walk outside or whatever I get up and move around. I think communication is really important here between the employer and the employee, because I think a lot of employers are still stuck on. You know, you stay here, you sit at this desk all day long. That's how I know you're going to be productive and it's, you know, not necessarily the case.
Speaker 2:Absolutely. Employers, you know, have such a huge role to play in this by setting the tone, and I brought up earlier the example of our own company. Tell us, you know, making work workplace well being central to what we do, it makes a difference. Right Fewer people are on sick leave because of that, people are healthier, people are getting more engaged and motivated to be be part of our well being challenges, and so a workplace that makes this, you know, not something that's kind of off the side of your desk and optional, but actually something core to what they do, is going to have a better outcome because it becomes part of the culture.
Speaker 2:I'll actually highlight an example. You know, close to where we are on the West Coast. Sure, I'll actually highlight an example. You know, close to where we are on the West Coast, the public sector employer, the Insurance Corporation of British Columbia. You know they're building a new headquarters. That headquarters is right next to a transit station. You know, a rapid transit station with the SkyTrain, and my understanding is that that business or the corporation is encouraging its workers to engage in active forms of transportation, such as walking to work, cycling to work and taking public transit. Well, when you do something like that. What you're signaling to your workers is that their well-being is important. Physical activity is important and in fact, we're even going to structure where our business is, where our corporation is, even where our real estate is our headquarters is to make that happen for you. That, I think, is a very poignant example of how to demonstrate that physical activity is critical.
Speaker 1:Oh, absolutely. I think that's a great innovative strategy and we're going to need more of those, especially since we have become such a, you know, a workforce of online working. You know people are on their computers for the most part and you know the physical jobs as well. You know construction and you know those ski instructor some of those fun ones. You know those are probably better for people's mental health than just sitting at a desk all day.
Speaker 2:Yeah, there's absolutely evidence that people that are physically active as a part of what they do, as opposed to an extra that they have to tack on, are able to maintain, you know that physically active lifestyle in a more sustainable way than to maintain. You know that that physically active lifestyle, uh, in a more sustainable way than people that you know are sedentary most of the time because of their work and then just have to sort of tack on exercise. So, again, that's why it's just so important to weave it in both into your work, um. But also, you know everything that is done peripheral to work, your recreational activities, your your uh, commuting, um, youuting. You know that's what makes it, you know, a reality for people.
Speaker 1:Absolutely. Do you think organizations should prioritize fitness programs or partnerships with wellness providers? As we work toward the future, I think it's important.
Speaker 2:You know, and we're hearing and seeing much more emphasis now on whole person well-being. You know people are realizing workers are realizing employers are realizing that it's physical health, it's mental health, you know social health, you know dealing with social isolation, it's all one package. Financial health place that, you know invests in physical health, invests in initiatives that support their workers to engage in physical activity, in active forms of transportation and fitness classes. You know is going to be a workplace that's healthier, more productive and you know, ultimately it positively impacts the bottom line.
Speaker 1:Right, you know. What are some of the other key findings of the TELUS Mental Health Index that you found interesting or would be helpful for people to know?
Speaker 2:Yeah. So some other findings that really stood out. For me is that you know folks who felt that their employer doesn't really focus on health and well-being had a lower mental health score than people who work at employers who do emphasize and prioritize these things. So a clear indication that what employers do matters. A worrisome signal from women, indicating that they're 40% more likely than men to have had a negative experience with the healthcare system. So, as a clinician, that is a call to action for me that we need to work together to improve the healthcare system so that it is more effective and more inclusive for everyone. We're seeing a very strong signal and this has been going on throughout the pandemic, but we're still seeing it over a fifth of employees reporting an anxiety diagnosis.
Speaker 2:So anxiety really big deal 14% with depression, 13% with a sleep disorder, a diagnosed sleep disorder right, Not just folks thinking that they have some issues with sleep, but actually getting diagnosed with, with a sleep disorder, suggesting that there are even more people, um, that are having having, you know, sleep issues that have not been diagnosed. And then a strong signal in terms of people's financial situation. So, no surprise, people that are going through life without much of a financial reserve, you know, without much of any savings in case of a rainy day, are twice as likely to report being diagnosed with anxiety, three times as likely to be, uh, to have clinical depression, than people that do have financial reserves, which goes to show that, you know, among you know, along with physical health and mental health, financial health is crucial for people as well.
Speaker 1:Right, and you know it's so interesting because we're not taught how to manage our money. You know there is this philosophy around the trauma of money. You know people who are overspending, people who don't budget. I mean, I see it in my clinical practice as well. Something else I see in my clinical practice is the sleep issues.
Speaker 1:You know a lot of people with insomnia, especially at midlife, and especially women, who may have been not yet been diagnosed but you know, are suffering and they may turn to alcohol or they may turn to medication. They may not turn to physical activity, which can really help sleep. But also something that is very helpful for insomnia, which is the inability to fall asleep or remain asleep, is something called cognitive behavioral therapy for insomnia. A study was done on like 64,000 women in perimenopause and it was shown to be more effective than estrogen, than omega-3s, than yoga and many other and obviously medications as well, and it was talk therapy done over the phone. So I think we're seeing lots more options and conservative measures for patients and people who are suffering with things like anxiety, depression and certainly sleep disorders as well. It's just shocking that you know nearly a quarter of employees going to work are reporting anxiety. I mean I have to say my, you know, my eyebrows went up with that one, wow, yeah.
Speaker 2:And I think both of us as clinicians, you know we're seeing that. You know, in our offices, when we talk to our colleagues, we're hearing about this huge sort of uptick in anxiety that you know really peaked at the, you know, at the height of the pandemic and then kind of settled down a bit, but it's spiking again. Just a lot going on for people, you know economic uncertainty, geopolitical strife and conflict, climate change. There's a lot on people's minds right now. Even the work from home thing, you know we're seeing, you know the shifts and really just trying to figure out what is the right way for people to work and where to work from. You know we're still trying to figure that out and you know it just adds to the uncertainty.
Speaker 2:So I think there's a lot of legitimate reasons why people are experiencing anxiety. And yet you know I'm an optimist and I think I have good reasons to be an optimist. There's more help available than ever before. Right, telus is really involved in physical and mental health right now. Preventative health you know lots of companies are really emphasizing workplace well-being programs. There's practical things that we can do for people to help them achieve their best possible health and well-being. It doesn't have to be hard. It doesn't have to be expensive, it doesn't have to be complicated, but it does need to be done and workers and workplaces need to pay attention to it.
Speaker 1:Absolutely, and you know I do a lot of work around educating employees of companies on perimenopause, menopause, postmenopause, and you know it's literally education, you know, and that goes such a long way, and you know, informing the women and the men at companies and as well as the employers also, so that they understand this transition that women will go through and some of the supports that they can put in place. So education also is so important and I think that's the future of health care as well. And then again, as you mentioned, so many different treatment options and I really like to start with conservative measures before having to go to medications or procedures, that type of thing, which can be beneficial. But there are so many other things that people can do to address the challenges that employees face and employers face in the workplace face and employers face, you know, in the workplace. What areas related to physical activity and workplace productivity require more research and what trends do you foresee, dr Chow, in this space over the next decade or so?
Speaker 2:Yeah. So one of the areas of research I'd like to see is let's figure out you know how much physical activity, what kinds of physical activity, have the most benefit for people. I think one of the barriers to people engaging in physical activity is that they think that they have to do marathons or climb mountains or engage in contact recreational sports or team sports to get the benefit. And actually just walking to the bus stop, using the stairs, carrying your own groceries all of those have an impact as well, and so I'd like to see more research to show people that you know any amount of activity matters, but also to give them a clearer indication of what types of activities are going to be helpful to them.
Speaker 2:I'd like to see more research emphasis on personalization of healthcare advice. So, rather than just a general call to action for everyone to be physically active, you know much more specific advice for specific individuals. Like you know, you need to do this many minutes of activity, and this is the time of day to do it, and this is the kind of you know, strength based training versus. You know cardiac training. You know cardio. I'd like to see more of that, and that's something you know TALIS has been doing. You know, I think those are some of the research areas you know I'm certainly interested in. I'd like to see more workplaces get involved, like TELUS has in terms of encouraging workplace. You know, physical activity programs Love to see policymakers get involved too. How we design our cities, how we make public transit and active forms of transportation safe right, no one's going to ride their bike to work if they have to ride their bike on a highway.
Speaker 2:So you've got to make it safe and easy for people, and that doesn't have to get political, it doesn't have to be partisan, it's just. We're just talking about people's health and that's a universal thing.
Speaker 1:Right. I think that's so important, and especially the personalization of medicine. You know, personalized medicine, medicine especially for women in perimenopause. I'm always saying to them you know your perimenopause or menopause is not going to be the same as your mothers or sisters or friends. You know they come in saying, well, my friend had got this, so I want the same thing, but you know their situation might be very different. So that's very important. Know thyself as never and know thy patient.
Speaker 2:I think that's going to be one of the biggest changes in healthcare in the 21st century, and it's something I'm proud that our company is at the forefront of is, you know, rather than just general advice to people and relying on sort of anecdotes and stories from from others, actually getting it down to the each individual and what is their genetics show and what is their personal history show and what is their response to different types of interventions like physical activity and yoga and meditation, and meditation and therapy, and really, you know, customizing and personalizing the approach to each individual so they can get the maximum amount of benefit. That, I firmly believe, is what we're going to see more and more of in the 21st century, and I know that's hard to believe right now, in a time of, like, family doctor shortages and long waits in the emergency department.
Speaker 2:But, believe me, in the background people are working really hard on these innovations and advancements and we're already starting to see them bear fruit.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I couldn't agree with you more Absolutely. I think that you know even to determine how much sleep somebody should have. You should have, you know, eight to 10 hours. Great example right, yeah, and this person needs six to eight.
Speaker 2:Does everyone need exactly nine hours or eight hours? Well, no actually some people do great on six or seven hours Exactly, and so the secret is figure out.
Speaker 2:Are you that person that needs this many hours of sleep or this? You know this type of diet, or you know even things like you know? We talk about chronotypes, right? Are you a night owl? Right? People know about night owls versus you know people that work morning person, morning person. Well, turns out there's some, there's some scientific evidence around around that that you know. This is a thing you know. There there really are chronotypes for people and maybe that's something that might impact on people's choice of job, people's schedule in in in schedule during education to maximize their educational output. So there are all sorts of interesting implications of personalization and customization of healthcare.
Speaker 1:Absolutely, there certainly are. Well, dr Chow, thank you so much for joining the program. The bottom line is let's get moving. Absolutely, yes. Well, thank you so much. I really appreciate all of your knowledge and your contribution to the podcast. It's awesome, and I'm certain that there's some employees and employers out there listening and taking your good advice. Where can people get more information about the final Global Mental Health Index for 2024?
Speaker 2:Yeah, so if you do a web search for TELUS Health, mental Health Index, you're going to see our most current result as well as the monthly readouts that we do not just for Canada but actually globally. So you can see readouts for the United States, europe, asia Pacific. It's interesting to follow the trends.
Speaker 1:Awesome. Thank you so much, dr Chow. I really appreciate you joining the podcast. You're very welcome.
Speaker 1:That was Dr Matthew Chow, clinical instructor and specialist in child and youth mental health, who currently serves as the chief mental health officer at TELUS Health, and I'm Maureen McGrath and you have been listening to Nurse Maureen's Health Show Podcast. Thanks so much for tuning in. I'm Maureen McGrath and you have been listening to the Sunday night health show podcast. If you want to hear this podcast or any other segment again, feel free to go to iTunes, spotify or Google play or wherever you listen to your favorite podcasts. You can always email me nursetalkathotmailcom or text the show 604-765-9287. That's 604-765-9287. Or head on over to my website for more information, maureenmcgrathcom. It's been my pleasure to spend this time with you.
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