80. D.L. TAYLOR: Unique magic systems, spreadsheets, and romantasy in The Beasts We Bury

D.L. Taylor recently debuted with her first novel, The Beasts We Bury, and it's one of the most unique things I've read all year. This YA romantasy is brimming with tension and magic, so we're diving into what helped her shape this story of a girl trying to avoid becoming the beast everyone thinks she is.


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Speaker 1
Hi and welcome to the Literary Hype podcast. I am Stephanie here literary hype woman. And today I get to do one of my favorite things and that is introduce you to a debut author. Today's guest is Dale Taylor, the author of the piece We Bury, which is a Y, a romantic sea book that is absolutely bonkers. It is wild.

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Speaker 1
This has me gasping. And my husband had to ask several questions about what was so shocking that I was making such dramatic noises about. So, yes, definitely tune in for this one because this book is bonkers. So without any further ado, here's my conversation with Dale Taylor from C2e2 in Chicago.

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Speaker 2
Welcome to Literary Hype. So excited to have you on to.

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Speaker 3
Talk about your debut novel, Mary, before we get into talking about this book, I don't know that you know how popular this arc was at Comic-Con. Really? I don't know.

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Speaker 4
It was a fight.

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Speaker 3
I didn't get into the comic. I had to wait till I saw God. Oh, my gosh. That makes really happy to hear you telling me. Yes. So it's it's so cool to see a debut come out with Swinging, Swinging like that. Everyone's like, I want this. And now I understand, because what a book. Oh, thank you so much.

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Speaker 3
So for anybody who has already seen.

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Speaker 2
The piece, Mary. Yeah, I got a girl who can summon beasts and is trying not to become one.

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Speaker 4
So she has this dark power. She can summon any animal that she kills with her bare hands, but she's like vegetarians.

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Speaker 2
Not interested in doing that. But she has this power hungry father that.

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Speaker 4
Wants her to amass an undead army for him.

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Speaker 2
And he's not afraid to lock her in a room with the Jaguar to do it. And then you have to show her.

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Speaker 4
Who's a charming.

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Speaker 2
Thief setting out to conquer and get rid of the family. And I finally passed the mark. So then he has.

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Speaker 4
To choose between his own future and hurting the horses that he's come to care for her, and she has to find a way to avert the oncoming war. So his actions are so game without becoming the monster or anything. Yes.

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Speaker 3
This book is.

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Speaker 4
Wild. Thank you. Why?

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Speaker 3
And what was your initial idea of having these animals trapped inside her?

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Speaker 2
Yeah, it came from the idea of, like, taking a normally, like, power, like some of the animals and giving it, like, a darker twist.

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Speaker 4
And specifically, like, you can look at someone and see their strengths but not understand the.

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Speaker 2
Kinds of things that they had to go to to get those strengths. A lot of times those are hidden. So I really liked the idea having this power.

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Speaker 4
Having this strength.

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Speaker 2
But like it was part one, it was not. It was painful. It wasn't something that she wanted to do and like.

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Speaker 4
How would that play out for first? You know.

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Speaker 3
That was my initial the cover art and the work for the chapters. So it's so beautiful and plays in so well as you get to the part of why that flowers on the cover, you're like, OK, I see what they did that. Yeah. So what's it like for you getting to see your thoughts come to life in this particular?

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Speaker 3
It's so.

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Speaker 2
Fun. Like when they sent me the cover art I was today, I didn't do anything else that day that scared that picture. It's genuinely like, I don't think of that. It's the most beautiful part of everything. The flowers and things for me are everything. The juxtaposition of like that romantic sweet flower with the.

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Speaker 4
Fierce, growling jet wire. It just so perfectly encapsulates romance and what she's about that like I could not be more thrilled. And I'm very picky about colors.

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Speaker 2
I was very worried I was going to not like the cover and I love it. So it's you write.

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Speaker 3
About these feelings of her having all of these candles inside her. So what did you channel.

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Speaker 2
To kind of get yourself in that space of what it would feel like if you had all of.

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Speaker 3
These crazy beasts rolling.

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Speaker 4
I'm very interested in what would be a song about a force for just regular.

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Speaker 2
Emotion. It's like there's a reason that the beasts respond to her emotions and other emotions because they're really.

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Speaker 4
Just an expression.

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Speaker 2
Of the kinds of emotions that come from trauma and the way they can feel overwhelming and out of control inside of you.

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Speaker 4
And that was really I mean, the book is about the magic is a metaphor for the trauma that she goes through and the things that she adores. So that's really.

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Speaker 2
That's really the core. So I just wanted I imagine my own complicated feelings all the time. I mean, that.

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Speaker 3
Makes sense, I think, especially for anybody. But yeah, we're teenagers. I'm learning how to process their emotions and this kind of gives a different way to think about it. Yeah. But speaking of preparing for death.

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Speaker 2
Yeah, dude, it's bad. It's not great.

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Speaker 2
I was reading.

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Speaker 3
It to be like that. My husband's like, what?

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Speaker 2
Like this guy? Yeah. Yeah. Nobody's a big fan. Shocker to me. Because I, you know, I thought is really relatable. Nobody. Nobody's up there. I'm, like.

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Speaker 3
Trying to decide what is spoiler to the point where you feel like some of it is too spoilers versus like, I'm going to go for your podcast with spoilers. Yeah. I mean, I don't want the spoiler for me. I don't want to spoil things for the people, but a hundred pages. Yeah, that's pretty safe. Yeah. So dear old dad, he doesn't just want her to stop it.

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Speaker 2
A little bit about crafting that, like, moral conundrum of.

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Speaker 3
How a teenager would face that.

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Speaker 2
When they have all these powers. What's funny about that specific moral conundrum is that killing a human.

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Speaker 4
Is such a big deal. For me, it's like marketing the book. People are so much more willing to read a book about killing humans than about killing animals. And it kind of flips that on its head to say, like, actually it is the killing of humans that is just like should breaks. Your heart thinks the same way. All of it should break your heart.

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Speaker 4
All of it is, you know, all of it. It's bad. I get some criticism.

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Speaker 2
Online about there being animal death in my book, and I'm like, look, nobody nobody wants this to happen. Yet. Exactly. Is the point to start with animal death and escalate to human that makes that human dead, which may or may not actually occur.

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Speaker 4
That's much more heart wrenching for her. And from his perspective, I really came at it from like a scientist, but he's like, he wants to push the boundaries of magic. He wants to be as powerful as he can. So when he sees this dark magic, he's like, well, what if we do this? What if we do that? And that's the part of him that actually comes for me as a writer.

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Speaker 4
I want to push the bounds of the magic. But if your mindset was being power hungry and getting as much control as you can.

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Speaker 2
That pushing of the magic is truly evil. It's truly you should not be pushing it that far in real life with your daughter. It's the medium for it. Yeah, so that's it. That's a big part of his character.

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Speaker 4
It's also a big part of Manson's character because her compassion is really what she deals with, and she truly is.

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Speaker 2
Horrified by things. And her father is completely fine like all the time when we're talking about.

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Speaker 3
Magic systems, this is a very unique magic system. I don't think I've seen a lot of these elements. So when you were approaching this, how did you craft how you wanted this world to work?

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Speaker 4
Spreadsheets. I'm a spreadsheet.

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Speaker 2
Versus I just take the that scientists approach and what if this, what if.

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Speaker 4
This, what if this? And a lot of.

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Speaker 2
That comes out. And I would yeah, I would just sit and think through different scenarios.

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Speaker 4
I actually when I was first drafting the book, I started with.

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Speaker 2
The power and not the character. And I need like eight different characters of how they would view this power differently. Like what would a character that embraced it look like? What would a character that thought it looked like?

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Speaker 4
What would a character.

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Speaker 2
That you two, three practically look like? And then from those, I picked the story to tell. And so but in doing that, I really fleshed out kind of how it worked and how each of the prospective characters would react to it. And the story that I wanted to tell was about compassion, about finding such a dark power, about trying to not become a monster.

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Speaker 2
And that's why that's the main character. But that process helped me really flush out.

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Speaker 3
And mantis power she says it over and over again, like her magic really likes a fair fight. And you don't see that in magical looks like the magic is just automatically the upper hand. Yeah, over there crafting it. A fair magic system. Yeah.

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Speaker 4
Part of that is because it's like.

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Speaker 2
And I wanted to dial it back a little bit because it is a dark fantasy, but I want I didn't want it to be green dark. I didn't want it to like hurt to read. So it should, it should hurt a little for sure. But I didn't want it to just be like, you know, we talked about some of the scenarios that her father set up for her.

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Speaker 4
If those works, it would be a much much darker book. But because they don't work and he's just a really dark character and she's she has.

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Speaker 2
To leave a very, very difficult place. But it's still I don't know, it still maintains that hopefully the fairness for the for the character.

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Speaker 4
Not that she's being put in this position, but that like she is up to it. I wanted to leave the sense when, you know, you can face trauma, you can be up to it. And that's why I wanted to give the magic boundaries and make it fair as opposed to just depleting everything.

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Speaker 3
Just one man's silver because yes, there is this desert and it sounds amazing.

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Speaker 4
Thank you.

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Speaker 3
So is that it? What was once a desert? They if you would like consider reconsider talking to somebody far away.

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Speaker 4
That's a fundamental question. Frankly, I'm a person who's into the esthetic, I think, more than taste, because I've had a lot of delicious desserts in my life, if you will. I mean, he built are a desert tower.

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Speaker 2
That I think would do it for me. If you use anything that's decorated it to.

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Speaker 4
Perfection is esthetically.

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Speaker 2
Pleasing. Like if you look at what I'm wearing, if you make a cake that looks like this, I'm going to eat it. I'm done.

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Speaker 3
So it does take words like, is this a real object?

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Speaker 4
That's like the first cake or the shoe cake. And so in that it's so much talent.

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Speaker 2
If it's beautiful, I don't care how it tastes, I will be I'll to you, I'll eat it. It's going to be fine.

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Speaker 3
So she's got this uncle who brings her trinkets and her magic from all these different rooms. Which of the trinkets would you rather.

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Speaker 2
Have cousins brings or trinkets? But let's see family relation of the ones that exist in the book, I get told really easily I would enjoy.

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Speaker 4
Having the heat rock.

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Speaker 2
Water in my pocket just to be warm and nice. All of those trinkets come to play in a bigger way in the sequel or the realms that they come from come to play in a bigger way in this people. And so it's hard to not to let that influence me if we're just thinking about the object itself. I think if you're thinking about the realm that it comes from, it would not be and I won't say more of that right now, just to go, we will.

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Speaker 3
Be talking about the two as part of this as well. And the word that popped out to me in this book is parrot, because everyone is talking about things to with what's going to would you want to live in all these fantasy books of all?

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Speaker 2
Yeah, yeah. OK, hard. Listen, I've thought about this lot and there's a really big difference. So I need to clarify between Disney for a weekend living, if I if I dipping in and dipping out, where am I going to live? I got to build a life to live there.

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Speaker 3
You got to fight the battles.

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Speaker 4
And there's so much darkness.

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Speaker 2
So much fantasy that I don't want it. I don't want to stay OK.

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Speaker 3
It makes it fun still.

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Speaker 2
But I'm going to live in a fantasy world. I have to have powers myself. So it's got to be somewhere where I can develop OK, initial things that come to mind. Powers. Why storm light would be great, but it's not fun there right now. Going on none of it's fun, Brandon, as far as like an idyllic pastoral life.

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Speaker 2
I love to be out there, you know, just second breakfast. Like, I wish I had that in my life. I think if I had to live there, I would get all the good things. Probably but it's pretty. It's so pretty and it's nice, and I'm probably not going to get it by dragging and shit. I, I think I got to go for two days.

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Speaker 4
I especially if I bring my husband with me. You do not expect anything else that's valid. Yeah.

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Speaker 3
And there's. I won't say much character because I don't want it to be considered a spoiler, but there is a character reference of rebellion in paprika for stealing spices. Yes. If you needed to spice up your food and you can only steal one spice.

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Speaker 4
Amazing question.

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Speaker 3
What spice do you need to survive.

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Speaker 2
To Berks County? Church.

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Speaker 4
I really like to launch. I know. That's controversial. I'm sorry. It adds a lot to.

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Speaker 2
A lot of things to me. I really like it. I realistically would probably say so if I just get one because I.

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Speaker 4
Like salt a lot. But if I got to hear what that is for you, that's the typically.

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Speaker 2
Himalayan pink salt typically going to be boozy. Yes.

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Speaker 4
If I if I'm picking something basic, I'll always have a beauty person.

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Speaker 3
I just think is has so much darkness. But there's still a little fun. Yes. We're having some fun. There's some fun. And then there's the romantic tension. Yes. So a little of about crafting the romantic tension through this very dark action based story.

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Speaker 2
Yeah, I really enjoyed doing that. I for me, the art was built on kind of what each of.

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Speaker 4
Their strengths are and what each.

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Speaker 2
Of their needs are. Silver is, you know, really great. Like, he he's on the edge of like.

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Speaker 4
Shit, like people should do. He's a thief. He's a con man.

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Speaker 2
He's been bending the rules all the time. But he's a boil dude and he has friends that he would die for.

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Speaker 4
And Nance has no one that is foil to her. She let everybody doesn't stand up for her. She continues to stand up for herself. No one show up to her.

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Speaker 2
She needs them. She is a really morally upright character.

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Speaker 4
Really principled, really thinks things through, really tries to act with others while others.

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Speaker 2
Well, being confined and silver needs that celebrity kindness.

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Speaker 4
So he's not received.

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Speaker 2
A lot of kindness. And so they but they each have what the other one gets. And that's sort of what I tried to build the bromance around, but I like the idea of a lot of dark fantasy will have a dark romance.

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Speaker 4
I like the idea of having a romance that actually, despite all the betrayal is at its core really sweet.

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Speaker 2
And built on acceptance and kindness in the middle. Because if I were living in a dark world, which I did not pick from the options, but if I were, I would want my romance to be my social life in that dark world. And I tried to make it that. And you do walk a fine line with silver because he is.

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Speaker 3
Lying to her. He is a young man. He is a thief. But you still want.

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Speaker 2
Your readers to root for him. So how do you balance keeping him a good guy? Is kind of being a bad guy with lines. He'll do a lot, but he has lines that he won't cross. For example, romantically, he doesn't advance certain things before she gets the full story because that would have made me feel epic about it.

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Speaker 2
I don't like it when in the book, you know, there the romance progresses without full knowledge and consent. I like it when you hold back until you can be fully open with each other, which adds to the tension. So it works out. But like, I think that is one of the things that makes it so that you can read for silver.

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Speaker 2
He does not cross certain lines with her, not just physically, but he did he get emotionally, he doesn't manipulate her, but there's always a point at.

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Speaker 4
Which he stops.

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Speaker 2
He's not trying to break down like a father to son. He's trying to he is trying to do his best to make a better world, to be just.

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Speaker 4
More centered on.

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Speaker 2
Himself. And I think that that's something that sympathetic in light of what's going to happen to him.

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Speaker 3
It plays into perception versus reality. That's like how people really think and act isn't always what we see in the movies.

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Speaker 2
So talk a little bit about as a writer, knowing more about the character than what.

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Speaker 3
You're letting the reader know.

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Speaker 2
And so you know more about the reality. The reader. Yes, I had a spreadsheet of secrets.

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Speaker 3
I needed spreadsheets. Now.

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Speaker 2
This would be a really great contemporary fantasy title spreadsheet of secrets. Yes, I do that. And then I have when they come to light so that when I'm writing each scene, I don't always write chronologically. I usually do but I need to keep in mind each character knows what. So I keep spending so that I don't make I don't reveal.

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Speaker 2
I'm not just tapping into something that they should know, but also not like they know something. Sometimes you read a book and a character will not be that upset. That another character died even though they should be. And then you find out later that character didn't really die. It's like, OK, well, the author knew that the character didn't die.

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Speaker 4
And that's why this wasn't.

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Speaker 2
A big deal. And that's what I like. I wanted to make sure that Brooke is reacting on the information that they had to play.

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Speaker 3
Which is very well done in a certain. Thank you. Thank you. Because I was like, oh, dang. And then I was like.

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Speaker 2
Oh, OK. OK.

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Speaker 3
This dress.

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Speaker 2
Which seat? The killing the girl. Oh, yeah. Yay, yay. I worked really hard on that, too. Thank you. Here's the first few drafts of that scene. It really did read like we all knew.

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Speaker 3
And since your debut, I want to get to know you a little bit better and let people get to know you a little bit better. So you're an attorney? I am an attorney. What did you learn from being an attorney?

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Speaker 4
That has helped you in your writing? Do you know what? I think being able to see something from all sides is really helpful.

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Speaker 2
Because when you're you know, the way that you're I was a criminal defense attorney, the way that your.

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Speaker 4
Client sees the situation.

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Speaker 2
Is going to be different than how you see it. And it's definitely going to be different than how the prosecutor sees it. And if you're doing it in.

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Speaker 4
Negotiations with a prosecutor.

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Speaker 2
And only knowing your client side or only seeing your own side.

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Speaker 4
You're going to be surprised by what that prosecutor thinks about the situation. But if you can go into a negotiation anticipating what they're going to think, then that negotiations get better. And that's really helpful for character. I tried to have.

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Speaker 2
A lot of different viewpoints on a lot of different issues and get into the head of someone that has a different viewpoint than me so that we can have a real dialog about these issues. And that definitely came from my practice.

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Speaker 3
I always love asking like how pass careers, how it's always like this really unique niche little item, like you wouldn't expect to pop up in your brain.

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Speaker 4
When you're writing. Yeah, also organization.

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Speaker 2
I know that's important. Yeah. And in your.

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Speaker 3
In your intelligence, do you have a mention of like knowing that one day your kids might read this book and have it? Yeah.

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Speaker 4
Yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 3
As a parent, what's it like riding a wave? A super clear. Yeah. I can't like, I can't even put myself in that space. Yeah. Like someone else reading this, especially it's my own child to be quiet.

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Speaker 4
Yeah. I try not to think about it. Well, I'm writing because if I do, then all I can think is, you know, this isn't a good idea. Don't actually don't be in this position, you know, and it becomes too moralistic and I need to bring that back I thought about it more after the book was done. My daughter really wants to read it.

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Speaker 4
I was like, Not yet. Yeah. Nine know early, 14 plus.

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Speaker 2
What do you recommend? But one, if you will, and we'll have a dialog about it, and I think she'll like it but we'll see it.

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Speaker 3
Brings it to a whole different level. Yeah, I'm like, Oh, this is personal. Yeah, yeah. I had a teacher talking about how his kids. Yeah, the students were like writing book reports on this book be like, I don't like this.

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Speaker 2
You know? Yeah. Being an author is one ever wanting.

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Speaker 4
Everyone in the world to read your book except for anyone you actually never have to talk to, you know, that's, that's.

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Speaker 3
I'm sorry, I can't hear another thing.

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Speaker 2
That you had in your husband's and you ended up with someone who's ever coming to you. Well, the whole Bible significantly I, I read tons a.

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Speaker 4
Lot and I'm reading Psalms right now.

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Speaker 2
Because I think that they're grounding in political like enables you to sort of add strength and meaning to your day. And that was the one that was on my heart the day that I was writing acknowledgments. I wouldn't say that it's like a light.

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Speaker 4
First necessarily.

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Speaker 2
But I have another one, too, that was on my heart that specific day. I.

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Speaker 4
I mean, the word frequently.

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Speaker 2
And letting sort of inform the way that I was.

00;22;03;20 - 00;22;09;14
Speaker 3
Since you just mentioned. But to again, what can you tell us about it?

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Speaker 4
I can tell I can tell you that you see more of the other rooms. You spend the majority of the book in a different realm entirely. And without any spoilers.

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Speaker 2
What happens in the epilog we're going to get into, you know. Yeah, what's.

00;22;32;10 - 00;22;35;26
Speaker 3
The title and release plan for it? It's the B suite.

00;22;35;26 - 00;22;40;00
Speaker 4
Race and it comes out in March of next year. So we'll be.

00;22;40;00 - 00;22;45;08
Speaker 3
Looking forward to that because this is literary hype. The last question we always ask is, what books are you hyped about right now?

00;22;45;14 - 00;22;52;28
Speaker 4
Oh, my friend Jenny's book, The Boys With Sharp Teeth, just came out a couple days ago and I'm pretty hyped about it.

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Speaker 3
So that'd be my number one right now. I need to read that because I heard one of the characters is based on coincidence, and she thinks that is my life. When I think you're going to like it straight ahead.

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Speaker 2
Well, thanks so much for taking care of Twitter literary hype. Thank you for having me.

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Speaker 1
You thanks a deal, Taylor, for taking time out of your C2e2 schedule to talk to me all about her debut book, The Be Sweet Bury, which is again, I must say it's bonkers get your hands on this book. I need people to talk about it. Please do this. If you want to get your hands on this book. The links to do so are in the show notes for you as well as where to find her on social media.

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Speaker 1
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