133. GRACE VIALL: (Mostly) Human Resources gives Supernatural & X-Files an HR Department

This week on LiteraryHype Podcast, I'm welcoming a fellow reader from the trenches of YALLFest to talk about her debut novel, (Mostly) Human Resources. Grace Viall is the author of this fun cozy fantasy book with elements of romance and a smidge of horror. I mean, it's cryptid hunting in the Appalachian Mountains. Things are bound to get a little dicey, right?

I'm so excited for this book to be out in the world and for readers like you to experience this fun world. We're talking all about writing communities, inspiration, fandom, and maybe some hints at the future.... ;)

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Unknown
Hello and welcome to Literary Hype Podcast. I am Stephanie, your literary hype woman back with another author conversation and I'm so excited about this one.

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Unknown
If you've been around a while, you know I love introducing you to debut authors. And so this one is a debut. But that's not the only thing that makes this a very special interview to me. And that is because this is a friend that I have known for a few years, from the lines of your first. So no, she's a huge reader.

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Unknown
We have been in the trenches trying to get those books together, and now I finally get to have her book in my hands and tell you about it. And this is Grace Vale. Her book is mostly human resources and it is such a fun, cozy fantasy, cozy horror vibes. We'll get into it, but this is a HR department for monster hunters and it is so much fun.

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Unknown
So without any further ado, here's my conversation with Grace style.

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Unknown
Welcome to Literary Hub. I'm so excited to get to talk to you about your debut novel. Mostly Human Resources.

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Unknown
Thank you for having me on. So excited.

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Unknown
This has been a long time in writing because we've known each other for years from y'all first getting in line there, and I remember you being like, I got you won't tell anybody.

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Unknown
It was such a secret. So what's it like for you now, having this book, baby, in your hands? Bizarre.

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Unknown
I mean, it is bizarre. Like it? So much time and effort goes into it that you think by now it would be just like relief. But it's so every step of it, either holding in my hands or seeing it in a bookstore, it's always like, that's mine.

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Unknown
That's me. I did that. It's crazy.

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Unknown
what the way we met is, she might play into this a little bit because as I was reading this book, I noticed that there's a character, our main character, whose name is Alexis, and that there's also a Zachary.

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Unknown
Did you borrow from your writer friends? And there has been street names. Ironically enough, I didn't. I realized after the fact that I had done that because I was I named Alexis like four times.

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Unknown
And the poor thing for the whole first draft, she was just main character in brackets because I could not figure out what to name her. And then an old college RA popped up on my Instagram and her name was Alexis with a Y, and I was like, oh, great name. I love the spelling and it just seemed to fit her.

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Unknown
And then when I sent in like a new version snippet to my writing group, my friend Lex was like, you named her after me? And I was like, yeah, that's the so they're not. None of the characters are named after people close to me, but ironically, I did kind of accidentally steal their names

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Unknown
and it was so funny reading this, I was like, oh wait, Lex?

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Unknown
And then Zachary is, which is Lex's husband, which, you know, that's what writing groups are good for is like, sometimes you get to steal a name. Oh, yeah. Absolutely. The amount of times we've just like, thrown out random names that we like the sound of but can't use, and then somebody is like, I'm stealing that.

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Unknown
What's it like for you to have such a great writing community to help you through this process?

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Unknown
It's been like the cornerstone of my writing career. I mean, I met them, in the pandemic, when I first started getting back into writing, I after so many years. And they were crucial for just encouragement and feedback and bouncing ideas off of each other. And the whole reason this book even happened was because I finished a draft of it and turned around to this little girl writing group and was like, now what?

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Unknown
And I had one of them threatened to submit my book for me to a mentorship if I didn't do it myself. And so I panic submitted because I had to be a good version. It couldn't be whatever she had. And from there I got an agent. I got a book deal. And so they have been the greatest cheerleaders the whole way.

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Unknown
Knowing Lex, that tracks quite well. Was it Lexi and you? It wasn't, but she absolutely would have if this other person had not. Yeah, that sounds about right, because she's hounding me to finish stuff so that she can read it. And I'm like, maybe not.

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Unknown
She's very known for, being in your back pocket for a project she wants to read.

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Unknown
And then when you turn around asking for hers, hold on.

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Unknown
So for anybody who hasn't already seen this online, what is mostly human resources about.

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Unknown
So the best elevator pitch I can give is if the Winchesters had an HR department or if X-Files, Scully and Mulder were really bad at field work. It is a company that is in charge of monster hunting in our everyday world, but where cryptids are real and our main character works in human resources and has one of her monster hunting employees come missing in the Appalachian Mountains.

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Unknown
So she teams up with her least favorite coworker and head of research to go into the mountains and see if they can find him before her boss finds out.

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Unknown
What was your initial spark for this story?

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Unknown
So I actually worked in HR when I started writing it, and I was working in HR during the pandemic, which was an experience all to itself.

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Unknown
And I was hiding in my boss's office on a lunch break watching supernatural, bemoaning my work life at the moment. And I remembered thinking it would be even worse if my employees were the Winchesters, and it just snowballed from there. I started writing the first chapter to kind of cope with the chaos of work, and so the scene and the opener of the chapter where Alexis threatens to throw a phone through a window was my exact mood when I ripped out.

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Unknown
I was going to ask if you did any research on HR, because these chapters are a lot of the chapters. Start with a snippet from the HR handbook for various positions. So talk a little bit about pulling those that experience into those little inscriptions.

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Unknown
I was working HR for probably the whole year. I wrote the first draft.

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Unknown
It was really slow going because I was writing on my lunch breaks in the break room and in between moments on receipt paper, and I

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Unknown
just pull a lot of my everyday experience from working HR in a corporation where my job was H.R. and then some.

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Unknown
So a lot of what Alexis does doesn't probably seem too familiar for a lot of H.R. experienced people, but a lot of my job was whatever needed to be done, which unfortunately tends to fall on Alexis's shoulders a lot.

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Unknown
You mentioned supernatural and X-Files, so which of your characters are most like the supernatural and X-Files characters?

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Unknown
That's a good one. I feel like Alexis and Nick are very much X-Files, just because they're more the desk workers, and they're kind of reluctant for field work. And I feel like Nick would much rather be investigating proof and finding it in his own archives, rather than out in the world.

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Unknown
As much as he is gung ho to see the monsters himself, I think that's where he thrives. And the same with Alexis. She's very much the behind the scenes type of personality. But early on, we meet some characters like Hank, who would very much be a Winchester, just full tilt in the field. No fear. Find the monsters.

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Unknown
I had the thought when I was reading this of like, the hunter that goes missing. I was like, oh, is this Adam? At least they remembered him.

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Unknown
Yes, I remember Elliot the whole way through. I swear we do not have another Adam under.

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Unknown
But there are a couple subtle references to both of those shows. There's, But get this. Which is a Sam iconic line of the show. And then there is a okay Scully reference to Alexis, as we'll talk a little bit about pulling nods to those shows into this book.

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Unknown
So the so get this was actually completely unintentional. And when I was going back over and edits, I was like, I just believe the supernatural fandom sometimes.

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Unknown
But the Scully reference was definitely intentional. I really wanted to kind of capture that nostalgic feeling of those shows, because I feel like for those of us who grew up watching, you know, younger, you have like the monsters, Inc. and those kinds of things, and you move into the there's a bit of a pipeline for X-Files and supernatural, and I feel like, at least for me, when I hit my my 20s, I was like, well, I don't know what to read in that area.

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Unknown
Like there's nothing that feels like that. So I kind of wrote this for, the fans of those slightly spooky, nostalgic shows we used to watch that was like monster of the week kind of feeling.

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Unknown
You developed your own cryptid for this book, The Hollow Walker. So walk me through how you came up with this idea and the lore for The Hollow Walker.

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Unknown
So it's not as exciting as you would think it is, because I've actually been asked this if I could write, like, an article about how to build monsters, and I genuinely don't remember how I did it.

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Unknown
I was writing, and I kind of ran out of monsters that fit what I needed. So, like, you have Bigfoot who just haunts the woods, and I had the jackals, which were perfect for chasing people through the trees. But I needed something that was more haunting, and I really wanted to pull in that element of the whistling in the woods is, like, really prevalent in Appalachian folklore.

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Unknown
Like, if you hear whistling, you're not supposed to go out there. And I wanted a really creepy connection to that whistling. And so The Hollow Walker just kind of slowly developed as I was writing the scenes of like, it was a haunting presence and then, when we eventually get to kind of get a closer look at it, it sort of spun itself on to page, really.

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Unknown
But I pulled a lot from just things that you kind of fear while walking in the woods of seeing out of the corner of your eye.

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Unknown
Let's put it out that this would be a monster that is probably going to have some fanfiction written about it. That you wanted to know your reaction to that, though, and get it on. Jim.

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Unknown
So be okay. If you came across Hollow Walker fanfiction.

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Unknown
So I've talked about it with my editor, actually, and we know that there is going to be a crossover with the people who will have a a unique appreciation for The Hollow Walker and Silas. And I fear those people, I respect them, I think I will not read anything and to each their own, but I will, I can't.

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Unknown
It is so to me like half terrifying and half. That's my child because I invented it. And so I just can't see it through that. That lens.

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Unknown
I mean, you probably shouldn't read it anyway just for like, legal purposes as well, because that gets a little touchy.

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Unknown
Yeah,

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Unknown
but the thought of it's so funny.

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Unknown
I know we we asked, every editor that we pitched the book to. We asked him who their favorite characters were at by the end of the book, and the amount of people that wanted it to be a love triangle between Nick and Silas was genuinely baffling. Like I was not going into it expecting that at all.

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Unknown
And the more it came up, the more I was like, is it because of the accent? Is it because of the suit? Like, what did I do? This drew people to Silas in this way because when you meet him, you'll understand probably why I find that so confusing.

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Unknown
I did not picture him as an attractive man at all.

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Unknown
Maybe not. Maybe I just misread it. It's just not supposed to be. He's very, Which I haven't really gotten to talk about it much because I there's so much speculation about who he is and what he is throughout the book, but he's very inspired by these, stories in Appalachia of the Gray Man, which is supposed to be this ghost, harbinger of death.

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Unknown
So I don't think I find that very attractive, but, I mean, to each their own.

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Unknown
This picture of him is like an old, balding, potbellied southern man. My husband, when he read it, pictured him as Slenderman. So? So we're opposites that.

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Unknown
The spectrum is vast.

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Unknown
That's what reader interpretation is so much fun because you can notice something and someone else is going to see it's entirely different, and it's which is wrong, which is right, who's to say?

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Unknown
Yeah. And I wanted to lean into that so much. It actually kind of gets me in trouble because I do I do describe so little about the characters, but it's because as a reader, I love filling in the blanks so much myself that I really wanted the readers to have a chance to picture, like, friends and coworkers in these roles of like, Natalie and Zachary.

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Unknown
And so with Silas, I left him very ambiguous on purpose because I wanted him to kind of pull from readers fears of like, what a really odd, almost any human type of character would look like. And if that looks like Slenderman or the critics from Reddit to me, like my agent said, oh, anyway, I'd like I wanted readers to be able to really lean into that.

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Unknown
Oh, this is so excellent. I'm like, rethinking this story with all these different like how different perceptions of this character would impact the read write. It totally changes the tone of some of the conversations.

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Unknown
I'm going to have to think about this for a good long while.

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Unknown
But this does take place in Appalachia. So how did you land on that as the location, and what was your process like in learning about their Lauren mythology? There?

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Unknown
So I grew up in the in East Tennessee, which is like the foothills of Appalachia, like we catch the edge of it. And we I grew up on a mountain that was not huge, but it was decently wooded and kind of had pockets of towns.

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Unknown
So there's a lot of, areas to explore, a lot of hiking trails. So I grew up in the woods for a lot of it. And then I started doing community outreach in West Virginia about ten years ago and went to Panther, which is in Lower West Virginia, in McDowell County. And it is a coal mining town, which was really heavily affected by kind of the death of coal as an industry.

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Unknown
So I, I spent a lot of time there about a week, every summer, sometimes 2 or 3, and had done that for several years before I started writing the book. So when I was trying to come up with a setting for if somebody was lost like you, it would take a lot of effort to find them. I really landed easily on the Appalachians, especially because you have, I think it's like 1200 people go missing on the trail every year, and we just don't know where they go.

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Unknown
Like, we just mark it off as missing and that's it. And so it it kind of fascinated me, this idea of forests being so dense. And you can just get lost in them that easily, that, the thought of office workers having to go into those woods was equal parts terrifying and comedic to me. And so I had so much of a heart already in that area.

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Unknown
A lot of the people that Alexis meets there are based off of people I knew, and people I've gotten to work with. So I really wanted to pull from the heart of Appalachia that I have. That's just my love of the area, but also the respect for the forests and the mountains that I grew up with.

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Unknown
Was there any particular law from that area that really stuck with you?

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Unknown
it didn't make it in the book, but the area we stayed in whenever we did community outreach is a elementary school that's been turned into a community center, and half of it has been affected by like flooding and storms and just natural erosion that we only use half of it and the other half is closed off.

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Unknown
And somehow, over the last few years, a story of a bobcat ghost has started and I don't know how, but there's something about the idea of this ghost bobcat just haunting a school that is really entertaining to me, and I haven't found an excuse to use it yet, but it's there and I'm waiting for the opportunity. So that was one of the stories that I got told by a local.

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Unknown
There's not very many. Most of them are just ghost stories, but that was one of, I think, my favorites.

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Unknown
did it come from a rival school's mascot or something?

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Unknown
So maybe that school's mascot was a panther, which is makes sense because it's Panther, West Virginia. So I don't I don't know.

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Unknown
You posted on Instagram with some pictures of the locations that inspired this. Was that a separate trip that you did, or was these just photos that you had from your outreach projects?

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Unknown
So most of those were photos from the outreach project. We spend usually about ten days living in that community center.

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Unknown
And so the diner was a place we would go down the street. There's a lot of photos of the houses. Well, I try not to do photos of the houses themselves without obviously the owner's permission, but there's houses of like, the our pictures of the, storage sheds and driveways and the woods behind houses and family cemeteries.

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Unknown
And those were just places I would just turn around and snap a photo with my phone and then go back to building a porch. So a lot of those are just from wherever I ended up that summer.

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Unknown
So this book is slightly told with dual POV. It's kind of still omniscient, but like, leans into more individual perspectives. So talk a little bit about how using multiple perspectives from both of these main characters really helps tell this story. And instead of relying solely on Alexis.

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Unknown
the POV decision was actually a really big one.

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Unknown
When I first started writing it, it was just first person, and it was only Alexis, and we followed her through the whole story. But when I finished that draft, it was only 57,000 words, which the book ended up being, I think almost 24 or 95,000. So I was like a half a book. And I tried to expand it and expand it.

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Unknown
I just could not figure out what part of the story was missing. And as I worked the plot and started changing things, I realized there was a lot that Alexis couldn't know for the story, but that the reader needed to know. And I started to realize the only person who could know it is the person who knows everything.

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Unknown
And so I had to pull Nick into the story a lot more than I anticipated, until eventually he weaseled his way into his own POV, and that was how I had the full fleshed out story. But it was because there's Alexis has such blinders on for so much of it, where she's so determined to do her job and do it well, that she tends to forget about everything else around her, and she likes to try and pretend she doesn't need anybody's help.

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Unknown
Which makes her very reluctant to turn to other people. So I felt like I needed Nick's point of view to balance that, but also give the reader the information that Alexis was very willfully blind to. And then when I got my book deal, I sat down with my editor and we started talking about the first person versus third person, and we kind of wanted to give that feeling.

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Unknown
You get in a found footage horror movie where you have the camera following someone, like just over their shoulder. So it's almost omniscient because you can change who it is, but it's still really with those characters, and you can get a look in their head and what they're experiencing. So part of my first round of edits with her was flipping the whole thing to third person, which was a whole endeavor.

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Unknown
And I still, I still am afraid of finding like me, I and we in there because I had to remove so many of them. But I think it really did give the story kind of that spookier campfire story telling feeling to it to do the third person.

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Unknown
How many drafts did this take?

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Unknown
So by the time I had an agent, I think I was on draft nine. And then by the time I handed in the final ready to print version, I want to say we were on 14 or 15.

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Unknown
What's the biggest change that happened from draft 1 to 15?

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Unknown
Either switching it to third person, just like amount of work wise.

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Unknown
But biggest change for the story, I think was the first or second round of edits I did after getting beta readers. I had it as a standalone, and then the more I worked with it, the more it had to give, and I realized the story just couldn't end where it was ending. And I think deciding to leave it kind of hanging off the edge of like, there could be more and opening up the end of the story so much more, was probably one of the biggest changes.

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Unknown
What do you miss the most from the early drafts?

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Unknown
everyone in my writing group will hate me for this, but there's a character I killed off by the end of the book, and based on everyone's reactions and what the story needed, I ended up not killing them off. But sometimes I really miss what could have been the emotional fallout of killing off that character.

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Unknown
There's a line maybe halfway ish in this book where she's looking for a snack, and she says she wasn't desperate enough for, chocolate chips. And I don't resonate with that because I don't feel like there's ever a time when raw chocolate chips are not a good idea. What is the level that you have to be to go eat chocolate chips as a snack?

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Unknown
Okay. So I didn't grow up in a single ingredient household, but my mom loves to bake. And so I grew up with just like random bags of walnuts and pecans and chocolate chips. And so they were just in the pantry. But usually that was mom wasn't able to go to the grocery store, like, planned, and we were out of all the other options.

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Unknown
So it was chocolate chips. But then she would get a little upset if you ate the chocolate chips she needed to bake, so it was like you had to risk mom's wrath to eat the chocolate chips. So for whatever reason that has carried with me through my whole life. And so now, like I have a bag of chocolate chips that I used to make, banana bread.

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Unknown
And there are times when I think about snacking on those and I'm like, no, those are for banana bread. I can't have them. And so it's it's a personal level of of desperation for a sweet treat.

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Unknown
What are you most likely to eat if you need a sweet treat?

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Unknown
I am guilty of buying Junior Mints by an unreasonable amount, and I don't know why. There's something about Junior Mints, and especially if they're in the freezer so they're cold. I don't know why, but that is my favorite treat and I have that far too often.

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Unknown
So you hinted that this book does end in a place that there could be more.

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Unknown
Can you tell us anything about future continuing into this world?

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Unknown
So we do get a whole trilogy out of the story, and it is going to follow Alexis and Nick on a journey the whole way. I like to think of the story as a V shape. So we've started at the smallest point of the story where we introduce entity.

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Unknown
We kind of talk about the monster hunting in the cryptids, but it's all very small and it's very localized because we spend so much time in the woods with just Alexis and Eric. And so book two, we kind of get to open things wider. We're back in the office, we get to see, more departments, and we meet some Reapers, and we get to do a lot more and kind of explore more of what entity has to offer.

00;23;35;29 - 00;23;57;05
Unknown
And then I like to think book three will be even bigger. And so I kind of wanted to do gentle fantasy, fantasy lite with book one and just kind of do a world that is familiar that you can ease into, and it's just our world, plus something else. But the more the story goes, I think the more complicated and messy things are going to get.

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Unknown
Yes. And I gave you the most non-answer answer possible. Well, I'm, to fix that. Okay. I'm going to say what is the timeline looking like so far as to when we might get back to.

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Unknown
we just finished another round of edits and are hoping to have a really solid version of it. Of these next few weeks. I've had to I it's been a labor of love to get the second book the way we need it to be. And to find out where Nick and Alexis need to be when that story starts.

00;24;28;08 - 00;24;38;07
Unknown
But we're hoping to have one book out every year. So if this one's out 2026, we're hoping book two 2027 and book three 2028.

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Unknown
Along the same lines of early fall to go with spooky season, perhaps?

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Unknown
Yes. Yeah, we we want as much of a spooky season release as we can. I think this year was a little out of our control for reasons I am still very sworn to secrecy on, but yes, we do. We want that that cookie season vibe for the book.

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Unknown
Well, then it's time for the last question, because this is literary hype. What books are you hyped about?

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Unknown
Too many. I look over at my packed TBR like I can narrow it down. I have far too many books to read because the 2026 debut group is stacked with talent.

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it really is.

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Yeah, I just finished Megan Bontrager the C Hides It's Dead, which was the perfect horror to pull me out of my reading slump. It had everything oceanic and ancient deity that I could have possibly wanted. And then I had the privilege of reading thunderstruck, which was fantastic. It's a really good Norse mythology love triangle in the modern world.

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So if you love a romance, gosh. And then there's just so many fall releases, like, I am so privileged to be in the fall release group because they have some of the most fantastic spooky season books coming out. I know Rachel catches the forest leaves comes out in October. She and I have been, survival buddies for publishing and it's fantastic.

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It's another Appalachia true horror. If mine dips the toe in hers goes full tilt. So

00;26;10;08 - 00;26;15;14
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awesome. Well, thanks so much for hanging out with literary hype to talk all about mostly human resources.

00;26;15;16 - 00;26;21;29
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Thank you for having me. This is long overdue and I'm very happy I got to do it.

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Thanks again to Grace for taking time out of her day to talk all about mostly human resources. I am so excited for this to be out in the world and for people like you to get to read it. If you want to pick up a copy for yourself, the links to do so are down in the description for you, as well as where to find grace on social media.

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So go give her a follow. Tell her that literary hype sent you.

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