#74 - What Lies Behind School Walls: Child Abuse, Cover-Ups, And The Cost w/Laura Boulton

In this explosive conversation, former School District teacher Laura Boulton reveals the disturbing pattern of institutional failure that she uncovered during her 23-year teaching career. What began as standard mandatory reporting of student disclosures about sexual assault evolved into something far more sinister—a suspected pedo ring within the district with connections potentially dating back to the 1980s.

Boulton, an immigrant from Malaysia who built her American dream through education, shares how her commitment to student safety ultimately cost her the career she loved. After students reported sexual misconduct to her—both peer-to-peer incidents and staff-student violations—she discovered the district was systematically mishandling these reports, directing teachers to report only to administrators rather than law enforcement as legally required.

The consequences for Bolton's advocacy were severe. Twice suspended and eventually forced to resign, she faced what she describes as the district's four-part strategy: "delay, deny, discredit, distract." Yet in a bewildering contradiction, the district paid her $400,000 in a settlement while simultaneously banning her from all district properties until 2027.

Through her nonprofit Phoenix Advocacy, Boulton now helps families navigate similar situations, working with law enforcement and politicians to reform mandatory reporting protocols. Her message is clear: the safety of our children must transcend politics, institutional reputation, and personal career considerations.

For parents, educators, and concerned citizens, this conversation serves as both a warning and a call to action. As Boulton powerfully states, "We were all children once and we all deserve to be safe."

To learn more about her story, CLICK HERE. To learn more on this developing story, visit Idaho News at: https://idahonews.com/news/local/former-teacher-files-second-lawsuit-against-the-boise-school-district-laura-boulton

Disclaimer: Always do your due diligence as a parent and/or faculty.

Chapters

• 0:00 Introduction to Laura Bolton's Battle
• 21:34 Bolton's Background in Education
• 53:11 Mandatory Reporting and School District Failures
• 1:34:50 Pattern of Sexual Misconduct and Cover-ups
• 2:08:02 Suspension and Student Protests
• 2:41:50 Gavin Snow Case and Legal Battles
• 3:14:42 Children Deserve Safety and Protection
• 3:33:17 Final Thoughts on Institutional Reform

Transcript

Speaker 1: 0:00

What you have uncovered at the Boise School District is a pedophilia ring that you claim goes back to the 80s, correct?

Speaker 2: 0:06

That is correct. It's a lot of murky water under the bridge. It's personal, I will guarantee you, Bam. The more they abuse me in public, the more everybody sees how abusive they are.

Speaker 1: 0:17

There's a really crazy place in this world for very evil people, and they've infiltrated our schools.

Speaker 2: 0:21

That's correct. In a month it would be Dr Laura Bolton. Ooh, okay, so in a month it's going to be Dr Laura Bolton.

Speaker 1: 0:44

Oh, okay, so in a month it's going to be Dr Laura Bolton, but we'll just call you Miss Bolton for now.

Speaker 2: 0:51

Absolutely.

Speaker 1: 0:52

We have some things to cover. Yes, and I never thought this podcast would kind of go in this direction, but here we are. We recently had a guest on she just had her second appearance which is Miss Chung. She has gone through an absolute horrible experience with the Boise School District uncovering infestations, and the school district has completely turned on her, running her through the ringer doing everything it can to get rid of her, which, hearing her story to, to me none of it makes any sense, correct?

Speaker 1: 1:27

you got brought up in our last episode and which just all happened really quick. So throughout this conversation, if I have some ignorant questions, I don't mean them, I just I'm getting spun up on your situation, which to me, hits home like I don't. I have zero tolerance. There's no room on our planet for what you are uncovering inside this boise school district. So if I say anything, ask any questions that aren't 100 online with you. Please correct me, but this is a very sensitive topic and, as a dad, and a father of daughters there, there's no.

Speaker 1: 2:06

And for sons? I just don't have sons. There's a really crazy place in this world for very evil people, and they've infiltrated our schools.

Speaker 2: 2:14

That's correct.

Speaker 1: 2:16

And you are a 23 year educational veteran. You're a teacher and you've been in the in the industry in the district for a very long time. You came here as an immigrant and you have lived the American dream. You've gone through the education system. You have now built everything that you have. You're fighting for children, because what you have uncovered at the Boise School District is a pedophilia ring that you claim goes back to the 80s correct?

Speaker 2: 2:41

That is correct.

Speaker 1: 2:43

Okay, it's a lot it is, but parents need to hear this in the school district needs to be held accountable for what is going on. In my opinion, there's no room at all for anybody that has any sexual crimes charges to be working in and around our public schools in the children.

Speaker 2: 3:06

That's how I feel.

Speaker 1: 3:07

If anybody else argues that you're listening to the wrong podcast, so let's dive into it. Ms Bolton, why don't you just kind of start where you're from and we'll just go right from there and we'll roll right into it.

Speaker 2: 3:21

All right, I'm an immigrant of Malaysia. I came to America when I was eight years old. My family, my mother and father, needed to seek out opportunities for future education in Malaysia. The Chinese population are discriminated against, so very much like perhaps like pre-civil rights America.

Speaker 1: 3:39

Okay.

Speaker 2: 3:40

And my parents started college at age of 36 and 38. And my mother got her doctorate when she was 50, which is the age I will be when I get my doctorate.

Speaker 1: 3:50

Really Good for both of you.

Speaker 2: 3:52

And my dad got his bachelor's and lives a really good, educated, white-collar, hard-earning American citizen community member where he lives in Las Vegas, and I'm very proud of them both for the opportunities that they have afforded me in this great country. I'm a naturalized citizen and it's because of America's public education system that I have the life that I have today. I'm very, very grateful to this country and the forefathers and all the things that the people previous to me have made this country into so that I have these freedoms, and I am here to help reform American public education and make it better.

Speaker 1: 4:36

I love it. So how old were you when you came to the US?

Speaker 2: 4:41

I came to the US at the age of eight in 1983. Immigrated to California, grew up mostly in California, lived in Vegas for a little bit and went to school at USC. Worked for an internet company for a few years. I had my teaching degree, but I knew that I needed to grow up a little bit more before I could be in charge of a room full of other people's children or, you know, even to have my own children, like I think. We need to grow up a little bit Absolutely. So I did that. Then I started teaching in the year 2000. Okay, and I've taught in California, nebraska, arizona, texas and Idaho.

Speaker 2: 5:21

Got it and total. I've probably taught in about perhaps including subbing and being a paraprofessional, which are amazing kind of stepladder positions to grow up from. That gave me a lot of experience as a substitute teacher and as a special ed paraprofessional back in the day.

Speaker 1: 5:39

A special, ed what?

Speaker 2: 5:40

Paraprofessional. So in certain states we call those teacher's aides. Oh, okay, okay, it's an extra teacher. Basically, what paraprofessional so?

Speaker 1: 5:43

in certain states.

Speaker 2: 5:44

We call those teachers aides, oh, okay, okay, um, it's an extra teacher, basically. Um, they're educators, you know. Their titles are different and unfortunately they don't get paid the same because it's based on you know, different qualifications and stuff. But they're educators, got it? Um? And in my culture, in in the eastern culture, we see teachers as members of the family, so that is your aunt or uncle at school and you respect them as such. In any country really, I think kids spend more time at school than they do at home. 100% Right, so that's a pretty big part of our life. That's a really important person. So in my culture we revere educators quite a bit. It's not like they necessarily get paid any better or more in other countries, but I think the respect factor for education is a little bit different than in this country. Perhaps we've lost our way a little bit.

Speaker 1: 6:33

I've traveled the world quite a bit and I 100% agree with you that how our teachers are looked at, treated, valued, is sad to me.

Speaker 2: 6:43

Right.

Speaker 1: 6:44

Absolutely when the direction the public school system has gone, with the education system Right, and it's sad because we see the outcome of what's happening now with the lack of respect toward authorities when I say authorities, teachers in public schools.

Speaker 2: 6:57

Right, right, well, I think the foundation of that degradation of humanity is the loss of love for learning and gaining information and knowledge and wanting to expand ourselves beyond who we are now. Right, I think there's some newer concepts of like growth, mindset and set mindset and those sorts of things, but I grew up in a Buddhist culture and so I have always been told like you're never who you are tomorrow who you are today.

Speaker 1: 7:28

Okay.

Speaker 2: 7:28

Right, and that's a good thing. Yeah, right, for better or for worse, that is a good thing.

Speaker 2: 7:32

So Always should be changing and growing, adapting and if you're in pain today, tomorrow you can be stronger, but not if you don't choose that path. And so when I came to this country, I come from a family of educators. My aunt was a teacher and a professor and my grandfather was a teacher and unfortunately I never got to meet him. He passed away before I was born. But I think that Not in this country. You know they don't, they don't respect teachers, they don't pay well, you're not going to have, you know, you're not going to enjoy yourself.

Speaker 1: 8:08

Why do?

Speaker 2: 8:08

that and I listened to her for a little bit and then I decided no, I have to find my own way.

Speaker 1: 8:13

So you had that. You had that calling and that passion to be an educator.

Speaker 2: 8:16

Yeah, okay, yeah, all right. I've taught kindergarten. I've taught severe and profound special education. I've taught first and second grade, all middle school ages. If you don't mind me asking what is severe and profound education?

Speaker 2: 8:53

Any student that's basically outside of the norm curve, okay. So whether you have ADHD, autism, down syndrome, cerebral palsy or even if it's a temporary situation, like athletes, get injured sometimes you get a concussion all the way to like a traumatic brain injury, all to like a sprained ankle, got it. So when you're in that category where you're an exceptional learner for your life or for a brief period of time, the public school system has to allow for accommodations and modifications to fit your needs for that time span. Okay. So if you have a student athlete that had you know they got a bump on the head well, that kid might need some help for a semester. So you would enact what's called a 504 plan, which is like a temporary special ed accommodation modification plan.

Speaker 2: 9:28

If you have a child that's born severely, you know, with Down syndrome or cerebral palsy or something where they're non-ambulatory and non-verbal and that's the way they're going to be for the rest of their life, they can still reach their fullest potential, their asymptote of growth, if you will, with some accommodations and modifications, so they can learn to speak, they can learn to use devices that help them communicate with the world. Right. And so severe and profound is the highest category of the special ed classification. Okay, and those children are protected under the law, under what's called the IDEA law. It's the Individuals with Disabilities in Education Act. I believe it was enacted sometime in the 70s, 80s, 90s and has probably been amended a few times to kind of adjust with the times.

Speaker 2: 10:18

And I actually wanted to do that my whole life.

Speaker 1: 10:21

Focus on the higher end of the special needs, absolutely. Do that my whole life I'm working. Focus on the higher end of the special needs, absolutely. I just have to say teachers that do that are absolute angels, because the amount of pay that you're not being paid to do that job, the time, the love, the passion, everything that special needs teachers god sense. I mean they're, they're absolute the most incredible people on the planet.

Speaker 2: 10:44

They are. I did it for a couple of years.

Speaker 1: 10:46

Is it tough? If you know what I'm asking, it was very tough Physically. Yes, that's yes yeah.

Speaker 2: 10:52

The lifting in and out of wheelchairs is difficult. Those children tend to have less motor control Lots of flailing arms, lots of flailing lots of inadvertent hitting and things like that not on purpose.

Speaker 1: 11:07

So you're taking some blows. I mean, it's a rough teaching position.

Speaker 2: 11:12

It is, but those children didn't ask to be born in those bodies.

Speaker 1: 11:15

Absolutely.

Speaker 2: 11:16

And their souls still need love.

Speaker 1: 11:18

Absolutely.

Speaker 2: 11:19

Right and they need that patience and sometimes parents do a great job and sometimes parents aren't able to because of their own life situation. So it was super rewarding. I worked with a lady in Nebraska actually her name is Mary Peterson and she was an amazing human being, my mentor and I think she's probably since retired and she advised me. She said, if you're going to do this and she'd been doing it for 35 years, only this job and she just kind of warned me that it will take a toll on your body, really mostly your body. Yes, of course it's tough, but the rewards of working with the special needs population you can see in a day or two's growth sometimes what it will take a normal average learner a semester to see.

Speaker 2: 12:04

Yeah, okay, it will take a normal average learner a semester to see Really, yeah, Okay, so you know, from one day to the next you might have an autistic child. All of a sudden, next day say your name and that's huge for them to be able to communicate. Communication is the biggest part, you know, of living and interacting with people.

Speaker 1: 12:21

Absolutely.

Speaker 2: 12:23

So I did that for a few years and then I eventually settled into high school so I taught math, science, social studies, history and I decided that I wanted to stick with math because when I came to this country it was pretty traumatic the change. Malaysia is a former British colony, just like America, and I came speaking English and everything, but the cultural shift was really hard for me.

Speaker 1: 12:49

I'm sure it was night and day.

Speaker 2: 12:50

So, yeah, I don't remember much from third grade to high school graduation. Honestly, I don't remember what I learned in school. I could probably maybe tell you the three branches of the government. There's still a lot of English words that elude me, concepts and pop culture-ish type stuff from the 80s and 90s. But I decided to stick with math because it's really easy for me to teach it and really really hard for people to learn, and I wasn't really good at math when I was young, contrary to the stereotypes, and so that's usually the first thing that I address with my students on day one is like, let's talk about stereotypes, let's talk about what you think of me looking the way I do in the front of your class, because I need to gain their trust that they don't think I'm going to just come up here thinking I'm better and smarter than them.

Speaker 2: 13:49

Because they won't learn from me. Because most kids in a classroom math classroom these days I would say more than half do not have the confidence they need to take the next step. Whether they have the knowledge honestly is totally beside the point, because I can help them build that knowledge. But if they don't have the confidence to learn, they won't. And if they don't trust me they absolutely they they will not even have opened up to shut down.

Speaker 1: 14:08

They won't open up to me at all, for sure.

Speaker 2: 14:09

So yeah, building that relationship piece, you know, helping them learn the math. I also explained to them like, if you need help in English and you're done with your math work, we can work on that, we can work on. You know, I'm here to be your mentor, I'm here to be your math mom. A lot of my students have adopted me. Over the years. I've adopted them and their families. I've become best friends with many of their moms. They're my sisters. They spend time at my house. My children know them. My children regard my former students as their brothers and sisters and it's it's very much a family feel, a trusting village, not just, not just what you know people put on a poster or whatnot?

Speaker 1: 14:50

yeah, which I if we had our kids in the system. So we, you know we're 100 homeschool. We started in the public system and then, during the whole covid thing with the mass on mask off, we're cool with whatever decisions anybody wants to make for their kids. That's on you, that you're the parent, that's your child. But when we started seeing our youngest develop an eating disorder, that's when Mama Bear was like you're done.

Speaker 1: 15:16

But as an outsider looking in, I feel I would like that style of community for my children. You're not just a number, that's in the public system. Here's your assignment. Go chat, gpt, see you next week. That that is, I feel, the majority of teachers now. That's the, that's where they're at, which is showing in our test scores and, as these kids, every single year it seems that test scores are getting lower and lower. They're eliminating standard testing and it's crazy to me. So to hear that how passionate you are and you're building this community, one as a parent, it would be great to.

Speaker 1: 15:54

Kids need that Because a lot, I think, where a lot of people miss the boat, or how many kids are escaping horrible experiences at home when they go to public school. So public school should and I will die on this hill should be a safe zone, a safe haven for children. I even get goosebumps thinking about it. Should be a safe place, safe place for children and that could be getting their meals the nutrition that they need, because most kids not say most, but there's a huge chunk of kids that aren't being properly fed at home. They're being abused at home. School should be their escape, in my opinion.

Speaker 2: 16:34

No, you're completely correct, I agree with you. Unfortunately, the support whether it be financial, emotional or philosophical to that type of thinking our type of thinking, if you will isn't there. So, whether we're talking about what part of the machine is broken, well, there's many parts of the machine, absolutely. There's the money part, there's the religion part, there's the politics part, and the sad part is we are the grownups and we're the ones that are affecting this. The children have no say.

Speaker 1: 17:07

And they're just collateral damage.

Speaker 2: 17:09

They really, truly are, and it's really sad. I don't think the blame is on any one person or one thing, but if we don't start talking about it and then we don't, I mean right.

Speaker 2: 17:21

The place that my sphere of influence is within, obviously, the classroom. So who can I impact? I can impact my students. They are my number one priority. I can impact their families and I can impact my colleagues. I can impact the industry. As an educator, as a veteran educator hopefully with other educators coming into my arena, our arena, in the next few years, I would hate to see people continue to not want to become teachers, because we will always need knowledge and it's just a very interesting paradox right now. Right, it's like the perfect storm of evil, right.

Speaker 1: 18:03

It's infiltrated our school system.

Speaker 2: 18:04

the perfect storm of evil right For sure.

Speaker 1: 18:02

It's infiltrated our school system Right.

Speaker 2: 18:05

And so if you are a good person and you want to be a teacher, please join me. I need you, we need you, humanity needs you. And if you're thinking about it with trepidation, as you should, with caution, then be wise and go, step you know feet first into the fire and try to douse it out, and know that we need your strength, and if you don't think that you're good enough for it, you don't want to do it. Just like parenting, right? There's a lot of people that are like oh, I don't want to become a parent, I don't want to bring people into this world. Good, don't Please.

Speaker 1: 18:39

You're not the person I want procreate.

Speaker 2: 18:41

Yeah, don't procreate, please. So don't have children please, because you're just going to make more of you, and this is the problem I'm dealing with right now.

Speaker 1: 18:50

Okay, yeah, you see it firsthand. Yes, right I feel a lot of people forget. That's so sad to hear People forget because teachers are an easy target, because we just want to blame teachers, which some could be held responsible or accountable for. Whatever the problem is, I feel it's much higher than them. They're just doing the best they can with what they're provided.

Speaker 2: 19:15

but the fact that, like you, are in the trenches year after year after year, so you're seeing everything that is going on with our youth in this generation, right, so and in 23 years I dare say I've I can't off the top of my head even think of one, much less even a handful of issues I've ever had with parents. I've never had conflicts. I don't, because I make them a member of my family and I love their child like they're my own, so it's not an adversarial relationship.

Speaker 1: 19:49

I feel this might sound crazy to people. You saying that, I feel that to every teacher. If you are that passionate about teaching the youth, that should be the outlook of every teacher. I personally feel should take every child in as their own, not pushing beliefs, morals, that's that's for parents, but for you to create a safe place for these kids that break during the day, knowing they have these, this group of teachers that they just are absolutely in love with, can talk, can open up, can vent, can build the relationships. You go to any other country that's how teachers are, but here we don't. You start talking to a student and they're opening up to you. Now you're the bat. Why, why, why are you? Why is my student getting closer, building an attachment? That's the natural reaction, but we'll get. But on the other side of that, then you have, you've had, pedophilia that runs through our schools. So you're, you're, you're in the crosshairs well, it's about intention, right absolutely um I I would love to blame the catholic priests.

Speaker 2: 21:02

I would love to blame the cops. I would love to blame Mary Kay Letourneau, who was the first teacher I learned about in the 90s that had crossed the lines. But it's not those people necessarily. It's the systems that we build that don't have the proper protocols in place to protect everybody, and it's not all the priests. It's not all Absolutely, and it's not all the priests, it's not all the teachers, it's not all the cops. It's the powerful positions that predators choose to exercise their power in an evil way. So if you are a pedophile, you're going to become a camp counselor. You're going to become a babysitter.

Speaker 2: 21:44

You're going to become a nanny. You're going to become a camp counselor. You're going to become a babysitter. You're going to become a nanny. You're going to become a teacher. You're going to take a job that puts you closer to your prey, obviously. So then it makes the whole organ, it taints the whole organization. If you are, uh, you know, a masochist and a sadist and a psychopath and a sociopath and you want to exercise your power, well, yeah, you might become a cop, you might become a physical therapist, you might become a medical practitioner, you might become, you know, you might study to take up a post that puts you closer to the victims that you want to violate, obviously.

Speaker 1: 22:22

Which happens.

Speaker 2: 22:23

Which happens. So then, the problem with that, though, is that we, as humans, are so tattered with our attention right now that we don't realize that the problem isn't about the organization, like we're getting distracted. Do you know what I'm saying? We're getting distracted, like trying to take down or defund the, the police, or you know, politicians are bad, or the media is bad, lawyers are bad. It's not that. It's that one, two, three, four too many people that got away with those bad crimes.

Speaker 2: 22:56

Now sit at the head of the table and they're still there.

Speaker 1: 23:00

And they're the ones controlling, which is what I want to get into throughout this episode, because, back to Ms Chung's episode, she has sat exactly where you have twice now and I've heard her full story in the update, and it's-.

Speaker 2: 23:16

Mind-blowing.

Speaker 1: 23:18

It's almost madness. My daughter and I the seconds chung walked out the first time. I was like none of this made sense. Believe her. See the pictures, see the email. We have all the evidence, as an adult, that I truly care for the well-being of my children, let alone any children within my facility. I'm dying for there is something going on in some kid. I'm fist fighting, I'm running somebody. I will do whatever I have to do to save my children, any other children around me.

Speaker 1: 23:52

So when I hear her story of just just clean the room because these kids are sitting in an infested classroom, why isn't this getting taken care of? The only thing besides just jealousy out of the principal of that school is the high. There's people sitting at the round table that are part of this, that are supporting it. That's the only thing to me what makes sense in my little finite mind. Because if I was sitting on that board I'm the Boise school director I would be like get that room cleaned now. I will be there in three days to walk it. I want everything torn apart. I want to see this school. Oh, they're in our walls. We need to handle this over the summer. We've got to tent this place, we've got it. Whatever we got to do, we got to do. I feel that's how a normal person would think.

Speaker 1: 24:45

I feel that's how a normal person would think I could be wrong, because my mind thinks differently of a lot of things, but as an adult that wants to care for children and make sure they're in the safest environment possible, why isn't this getting taken care of? But it's the couple of people that you're explaining sitting at the round table.

Speaker 2: 25:01

In my opinion, Well, you're a pretty intelligent man.

Speaker 1: 25:05

That's the first time.

Speaker 2: 25:06

I've ever heard that. I take that compliment um.

Speaker 1: 25:09

I know a marine right out of all things right. Who would have thought?

Speaker 2: 25:13

um, so I am pretty familiar with miss chung's case from having read up on it in the news and whatnot. Um, she, I'm acquainted with her situation. My explanation for her situation and the appalling way that it has been mishandled is I think that the most obvious answer is sometimes not the one people want to accept, because it is pretty horrifying to think that there could be, in an organization that's so powerful, that's there to look after children, scary To be so negligent of their health and well-being.

Speaker 2: 25:49

And you know it's not about necessarily again we get lost in the weeds. Right, the plague is a terrible thing. Mice rodents, feces in urine is a terrible, terrible thing. Pedophilia is horrific. Yep Special ed violations are horrific. No-transcript. I believe civil rights is a thing in this country question mark. And all of those are part of a greater problem. Because if you just keep climbing and you look at the top of the ivory tower you realize, oh well, when somebody is ineffective and the organization has been ineffective for decades, what do you mean by ineffective?

Speaker 2: 26:40

ineffective meaning like a parent that's ineffective will ignore their child. Right, their child falls down, their child is bleeding. Their child is hungry. Their child is crying. Their child is being kidnapped. Their child is hurting another child, their child is being hurt by another child. And that parent that is ineffective could do a lot of things to define ineffectiveness. Most of the time would be ignoring them Just neglect okay.

Speaker 2: 27:05

Total neglect, total downplaying, gaslighting, you know, until the point when maybe the child is older and doesn't come to the parent for help anymore, until something really, really, really bad happens.

Speaker 1: 27:17

Usually, by that point it's way too late, and it's way too late.

Speaker 2: 27:19

So what would you expect the parent to do when the child has something catastrophic happen and the parents like, well, there's nothing I can do to help you, it's not really a problem, blah, blah, blah. It's not like after decades the parent can double back.

Speaker 1: 27:34

No, you can't. You got one shot.

Speaker 2: 27:36

And you have all those years. You don't have a time machine. There's no way for a parent. It is very difficult for a human to finally admit that they are wrong, because their whole existence will come crumbling down. It's like telling a flat earther, showing them a picture of the earth from outer space. People would rather dig deep and just want to stay in their own safety, which I can't blame them. Right, Like I can't control, I don't want to send anybody into trauma either. Right, Like I can't control, I don't want to send anybody into trauma either. Right. But the reason I believe that in Ms Chung's case, hypothetically that Boise School District is having a difficult time holding themselves accountable is because maybe there's larger crimes to be covered up from the years previous. Right, and if you admit to one wrongdoing now?

Speaker 1: 28:29

you open up the gates.

Speaker 2: 28:30

Golly gee willow right, like that's a big can of worms, like, perhaps, a can of worms we don't like. There are cans all over the place, maybe I don't know, we don't know what we don't know. I know what I don't know and I don't know that, but I, we don't know what we don't know. I know what I don't know and I don't know that, but I definitely don't know what I don't know. There's a lot, and when I say you mentioned earlier crimes dating back four decades, to the 80s, that is all just pretty simple research. It's on my website. I have a media page and it's a lot of articles on about 25 previous perpetrators purely from Boise School District. These are, I mean these teachers might have gone elsewhere after Boise School District did or didn't take action against them back in the 80s, 90s, 2000s, 2010s, or these teachers may have come from other places, other states, other districts in Idaho, and I just Googled, I just Googled, googled, googled.

Speaker 1: 29:33

And Crazy what happens when you do actually your own little bit of digging A little bit Right. It's wild.

Speaker 2: 29:39

And what motivated me to do that was when I was first suspended in September 2023, there was murmurings in the community, in the online environment and Boise School District put that out there that they cannot confirm nor deny why I was suspended. However, I could have been suspended because maybe I violated perhaps these codes that you could find on the Idaho Code of Ethics and I might, you know, have done all these things wrong and when you read those things, it's like those were the accusations I was making against the pedophiles.

Speaker 1: 30:17

And they turned it against you and they did Okay. So let's stop there. Let's start where this all started before we dive into what they're accusing you. When did you uncover, find, discover this pedophilia ring inside the boise school district?

Speaker 2: 30:43

I would say I identified it as a mathematical pattern of a ring sometime in 2024-ish last year.

Speaker 1: 30:51

Really.

Speaker 2: 30:54

When I was suspended in 2023, I was like, hmm, this is interesting.

Speaker 1: 30:59

What were you suspended for?

Speaker 2: 31:01

I was suspended officially, I believe for causing a ruckus.

Speaker 1: 31:06

A ruckus. And what was the ruckus you caused over?

Speaker 2: 31:11

Well, I have three different versions of my suspension paperwork because they like to charge me multiple times with multiple crimes. Sounds right and altogether. I believe it was that students that come forward shared concerns with me as a mandatory reporter. I reported them and they weren't handled properly in a legal manner at all, still to this very day, and those students were upset. They came to me Some of them were graduates and some of them were current students and I said, well, perhaps they could speak up, and they did like to the media like to the media, or, you know, I taught my adopted children how to use their american voices, um, whether it was over email, emailing the school board.

Speaker 2: 31:58

I'm I'm very good at giving out email addresses to people that to direct their voices in the right direction, and I disturb a lot of inboxes in the ivory tower, I believe and they had to find some legal way, some something in the employee handbook. Basically, I caused a ruckus.

Speaker 1: 32:20

Okay, so I know there's HIPAA involved. I don't I don't ever want you to cross give out names, but if you can, what were these kids coming to you for originally? What? What was their problems? That they were confiding in you over?

Speaker 2: 32:29

sexual crimes committed against them in the boise school district.

Speaker 1: 32:34

How old were these children?

Speaker 2: 32:36

these students were at timberline high school okay, and so these students trusted me as their adopted mother to tell me all the things.

Speaker 1: 32:49

If you can. What are these kids? You don't have to go in full details, but just through the listeners. I want to build this picture because I feel the more detail I hate when you listen or watch something that can be so powerful about this topic of pedophilia and they they're, they're beat around the bush. We're not those people here, but I want you to be as comfortable as you can or want to be talking details. People need to hear this shit absolutely and without I'm one of those. You have to present it or we're always gonna be like well, it happens, but it doesn't affect me. Right, and until you have seen true evil and what is in our school systems which you have, there's no stopping. It feels as fire and that's where, if I can use this platform to people that are, can help. So back to my original question what are these kids coming to you for? What are? What are they claiming at this point? They've been sexually abused inside the Boise school district with like what. What has happened?

Speaker 2: 33:45

Um. So there's a handful of young ladies that I had had over the years in my time there. I was at Timberline from 2018 until I was suspended in 2023. And I had filed five mandatory reports on three different females and they have all um given me permission to share their stories Obviously, not their names. Even if they did, I wouldn't because as a mom. I would never do that to my own child.

Speaker 1: 34:11

I'm with you.

Speaker 2: 34:13

One young lady was sexually assaulted in the hallway fully clothed by another young man. He used his hands on her under her skirt there's video footage of that Under her skirt. There's video footage of that and because he was a student athlete, they used that as leverage to talk her out of doing anything or taking any legal measures against him. Because you know, golly gee, it might have cost him his future scholarship career in some professional who knows what.

Speaker 1: 34:42

So we'll ruin this young girl's life instead.

Speaker 2: 34:44

Correct career and some professional who knows what. So we'll ruin this young girl's life instead. Correct and the young lady had mentioned to me that she had a private one-on-one meetings with a particular member of Boise school district without her parent there, cause she called me and asked me to attend that meeting with her and it completely broke my heart that I couldn't, because having me in the room with that particular gentleman would have made things worse not better for her because he and I have a.

Speaker 2: 35:14

Well, he has issues with me, so I didn't think it would help because neither of her parents could show up at that meeting. So I told her to record it and she has the recording. But sometimes to get over our trauma it's better just to step away from it for a while. Okay, Unfortunately, when we choose that path legally the statute of limitations the clock ticks right, For sure, and she understands that.

Speaker 2: 35:35

But I told her you know, standing up is still important because somebody can stand on your shoulder and then, somebody can stand on their shoulder and you're the part of the foundation shoulder, and then somebody can stand on their shoulder and you're you're the part of the foundation. So you know she has chosen not to necessarily pursue any legal action against the district what did happen with this teacher and this student?

Speaker 2: 35:54

um, it was actually a student on student crime. So I would say, when it comes to negligence and bad things that happen in schools, you know most of it is student on student stuff. I don't want parents necessarily, because parents are already concerned and we do want to bring awareness, but I don't want to start wild chaos in the community, so to speak.

Speaker 2: 36:18

Most of the things that I've dealt with have been student against student things, which is very typical of children, I get it. But the extent of assaults and objects being used and things like that of that nature should be dealt with by the teachers in the school. And the teachers do try to say something and do something, but the administration never backs them up. And then next, you know, the kid who brought a gun last week has a knife this week, stabs a kid and then you still can't do anything, because why would you suspend him now that he accidentally stabbed somebody with a knife, when you didn't do anything when he brought a gun last week? So they keep tripping over their own mistakes and their own lies.

Speaker 2: 37:03

So this young man in the story, the perpetrator, he, I believe, moved schools, moved districts, which helped because the next year was this young lady's senior year, another young lady, she was a part of the professional technical program in Boise School District and she had. Her perpetrator was an adult, it was an instructor and she also has chosen not to have. Actually, both these young ladies have moved out of state because they're just that traumatized by the whole thing. But they do give me permission to always share their stories, because I think it's important that future victims know they're not alone.

Speaker 1: 37:44

Yeah absolutely.

Speaker 2: 37:45

But this young lady was sexually assaulted by her instructor and nothing was ever done about it. I don't believe she even filed a police report. I do believe she might have gone to administration and said something and she went to her mother, gone to administration and said something and she went to her mother. And the problem in Boise School District, as with perhaps some other districts in this country, is that the policies that are written in their board you know documents and whatnot and the teacher trainings that we watch at the beginning of the year, the videos, the things we sign off on the student handbooks, all those things, all the literature and resources says if something bad happens, go to your administrator. Period, end of sentence. That's all I got to say to you. But that's against the law, because the law says, the federal law says, and I believe the Idaho one does too, I would hope. Number one when something bad happens, you call 911. That's what I learned as an eight-year-old immigrant in this country. And then, number two, you should call CPS at 211.

Speaker 1: 38:55

Okay.

Speaker 2: 38:56

And then I don't know if there's a number three, but if the crime happened in an organization, then alert them. Like if you saw a kid being beaten in Walmart, I wouldn't go grab the manager, I'd call 911. And then I'd call CPS and then I'd be like Walmart manager, get over here. You need to document this, right. Or I might say you know where's the manager, I'm going to call the police right now, right, but I didn't.

Speaker 1: 39:54

Why is that Not just you in general? But when anything of these nature is happening, Fear Really.

Speaker 2: 40:02

In my case, it was ignorance because I kind of forgot Fear. Really. In my case, it was ignorance because I kind of forgot. When I first came to Idaho, I worked at Centennial from 2008 to 2014. Go Patriots. And I had two amazing administrators at that school principals, and a troop of amazing vice principals as well, and counselors, and I filed several mandatory reports and they all got dealt with properly.

Speaker 1: 40:27

Okay, so what's dealing with properly? There's a report that comes through. A student comes to you for being sexually assaulted by another student. What makes it administrative?

Speaker 2: 40:39

Effectiveness.

Speaker 1: 40:40

Effectiveness? What makes them check all the boxes in your mind Okay, they're doing this right, they're handling it right.

Speaker 2: 40:47

So a student comes to me, they tell me something that falls under my lawful mandatory report. Okay, and it could be they're homeless because that falls under McKinney-Vento so they could have extra funds that help them and whatnot. It could be, of course, your typical child abuse, neglect, any of those things. I am obligated to document it, so typically I would sit down at my computer, type it out. I may or may not use the student's name If it's an email that I'd be sending to an administrator or the SRO in the school, which, by the way, all our schools have a cop on duty. So I don't understand why they haven't been included. I think they'd be a little offended to be discluded when bad things are happening under their nose.

Speaker 1: 41:31

That was my future question.

Speaker 2: 41:35

It makes law enforcement look negligent when they're not negligent. They're just being kept out of the loop.

Speaker 1: 41:41

So you're saying that there's all these school districts now have an assigned cop and there's sexual assaults going on in the school, student on student God forbid teacher on student and nobody's even notifying the cop that's assigned to this school.

Speaker 2: 41:56

The proper situations, like the effective ones I was speaking of at Centennial those, the cops were always in the room. I remember them being in the room. I remember myself being even included to the degree that it is legal, I guess you know like I brought the kid to up to the front office, walked into my supervisors, either the vice principal I'm assigned to or the principal principal, and you know, and depending on if the student was up to talking about it, because once they, you know, get into this principal's office, they might get scared.

Speaker 1: 42:31

Oh for sure it's intimidating.

Speaker 2: 42:32

Right. So I would say, like you know, hey, little Johnny, little Susie, can I tell you know, mr Miss Smith, whatever my principal's name was at the time that I would like to not you know kind of protect their privacy. But, like you know, do you want to tell them what happened? Would you like me to help you? And you know, sometimes they speak for themselves, sometimes they are not able to, and I make sure that I'm, like you know, saying like this is what you told me. Does that sound right? Is there anything else you want to say, just like you would if you're for themselves? And at that time I remember very distinctly my amazing admin at Centennial saying OK, this is what we're going to do next, little Johnny, little Susie. And they would explain like this is what happens next. And then this is what happens next and this is what we're going to do. We're going to call your parents unless it's related to a parent right at home.

Speaker 2: 43:24

That's sometimes the thing, unfortunately. Um, the sro would get called into the admin's office there. I'm sure afterward I left there was probably some paperwork that happened and all those things. And then, um, typically I would go back and check, check with my admin to see how things were, or they would actually usually come to me and say like hey, when john, when Johnny or Susie come in the classroom, I'll make sure they're okay, check in with them. It's like yeah, of course.

Speaker 1: 43:49

That seems to be a no brainer for me.

Speaker 2: 43:51

All those normal things thrown out the window in Boise school district.

Speaker 1: 43:54

So really, so just based the basic, not even going above and beyond. For these, these children, these are just the basic checks to cover everybody's ass. Make sure the kids got their statement out, Cool. You're telling me at Boise School District, none of this is happening.

Speaker 2: 44:14

In my situation.

Speaker 1: 44:16

I can speak to mine, yep that's all I want you to speak of.

Speaker 2: 44:20

And, unfortunately, several other teachers that have given me permission to share their story. At Timberline at Bora, where I worked from 2014 to 2018, this sort of thing also happened. I worked with refugees and immigrants in a program called the Bridge Program for New Americans immigrants like myself and, oh boy, there's a lot of bad things that happen in that population. Why, what Boy? There's a lot of bad things that happen in that population. Why, what? There's a lot of sexual abuse at home with some cultures outside of this Western world.

Speaker 1: 44:51

A lot of people don't realize that, but it's very common around the world.

Speaker 2: 44:54

Yes, to the degree that it's normalized. Yes, right.

Speaker 1: 44:59

So there's, you know, dealing with the definitions of changing cultures, which I'm I've never considered that Kind of more or less equipped for yeah Well, Because you're taking kids that are growing up in a specific culture, religion, whatever it may be, it's normal there. They come here, now they're learning. This isn't right, correct, and now that falls on the teachers that are helping them. Along with that. It's gotta be a tough job.

Speaker 2: 45:27

It is it, you know, reminded me of my childhood. Like my parents and my culture are very much about corporal punishment. I've I have lots of welts of bamboo canes on my leg from when my father was trying to be a good dad. I had lots and lots of spankings from my mother and pulling of my ear from my mother trying to be a good dad. I had lots and lots of spankings from my mother and pulling of my ear from my mother trying to be a good mom. That's not how we do it anymore. Welcome to America. And when I would see a lot of evidence of that sort of abuse in my new American refugee immigrant students. It was a very tender conversation to have because, even though I'm a mandatory reporter, rocking that boat is difficult.

Speaker 1: 46:14

Okay, why? What makes it difficult?

Speaker 2: 46:17

Backlash. That child has no options if they get kicked out of their house.

Speaker 1: 46:24

So now, and the abuse will get worse, out of their house.

Speaker 2: 46:25

So now, and the abuse will get worse and it will continue.

Speaker 1: 46:28

Because now it's been outed Correct, and you have old school traditions Correct, new school world living Correct, clashing under a roof, and you have a young girl, young boy, whatever it may be, and they have nowhere to go and escape, right? So that's a very sensitive topic, right, and how it's addressed.

Speaker 2: 46:45

Right and I'm a mandatory reporter so I report those. And I had one singular trusted administrator who has since retired, a great man that I worked for at Bora and I always trusted him and he would take that and do the right thing and follow up with the family, the SRO and when we were dealing with very obstinate parents that thought that beating a child, because that's just your daily activity, is a thing.

Speaker 2: 47:34

Just a gentle reminder that you are in America, you're here for a good life, don't do something stupid that's going to end you up in jail Because certain things that are okay in some places are not okay in others.

Speaker 1: 47:45

I don't play those games here.

Speaker 2: 47:46

Um, and those children saw that at the least, people love them, stood up for them and they're right and right. And so the phenomenon that we never talk about is, instead of not just instead of I should say, let's not just focus on trying to take down the bullies. How about we focus on building stronger humans?

Speaker 1: 48:13

Absolutely.

Speaker 2: 48:14

So like teaching your child to stand up for themselves, as opposed to pitting them and then taking them out of that environment where they have an opportunity to persevere and grow stronger, and hiding them in a bubble. Well, you know, I don't want any kid to get stuffed in a locker. That's not what I'm saying. I'm not saying I want people to push their kids back into school if they're not ready, but at some point we have to teach our children to stand up on their own.

Speaker 2: 48:38

And I inadvertently, I guess, because my refugees are still very much in my life my former students at Bora, and they told me that when they saw me, one of their own stand up for them, especially since I'm a woman and I'm an immigrant, it's very like the stereotype of the people that look like me should be quiet and submissive, like the stereotype of the people that look like me should be quiet and submissive.

Speaker 2: 49:05

And so and they know that, because even in their culture, women are quiet and submissive and most Asian women are seen that way and that is a stereotype right their mother to their aunt, to their uncle at home, with respect, speaking a little bit of Swahili, a little bit of Arabic, a little bit of whatever I need to learn to connect with that parent just to say hey, brother, sister, I understand that in our culture gosh kids are just, they're a handful. I know right, my mom and dad used to beat me all the time, but they'd get in trouble for it now. So just be careful, brother, sister, you do not want to end up in jail in this country because your child, who's my student, will not have you to take care of.

Speaker 2: 49:58

And they won't be able to take care of you either, because you'll be in jail. So just a kind reminder that that behavior is not okay.

Speaker 1: 50:05

How often does this work?

Speaker 2: 50:07

Um, for me it worked every time really because I become friends with parents, and I'm not trying to take them down, I'm trying to give them suggestions from my own life as an immigrant. And they see me as a new American. They see me as successful, they see me as well spoken, they see me as educated, and in their country teachers are revered still. So I get these amazing human beings who cannot some of them read or write English. But boy, they are the best, most passionate kids in class. They will raise their hand, they will volunteer. They are not discipline problems at all. They don't know how to be the class clown because that's not tolerated in their culture. They came to this country because they don't have schools they got bombed. So they're happy to get the free apple, the free oranges the pencil in their hand.

Speaker 2: 51:00

So they're happy to get the free apple, the free oranges, the pencil in their hand. And that advocacy teaching those children to stand up for themselves and be new Americans and make this country great again is my job, but that's what got you in trouble.

Speaker 2: 51:27

That's what got me in trouble. Um, timberline, uh, the extent of the things that were I was being exposed to. Um, well, I knew I lived in a more western world, at timberline, right, I knew that there were these laws and I knew that it was very clear you shouldn't be doing this to a kid if you're an adult. There was no cultural vagueness. Okay, I didn't have to tiptoe around anything and when I reported it, nothing happened. It wasn't like my experience at Centennial. I wasn't encouraged to follow up. I was encouraged to pass the hot potato and mind my own gosh darn business and go back to my classroom.

Speaker 1: 51:59

Really, what are you reporting? Did we already cover that? Was that the initial three?

Speaker 2: 52:03

The first young ladies was the assault in the hallway, where the school actually has videotape of that.

Speaker 1: 52:10

So you have hard evidence.

Speaker 2: 52:13

So I don't possess it.

Speaker 1: 52:14

You don't possess it, the school, so the Boise School District has film of another student going under a young girl's skirt. Whatever happened, they have it on video you report it.

Speaker 2: 52:28

what happened?

Speaker 1: 52:29

Nothing, Okay, so that's a problem. A young- lady.

Speaker 2: 52:33

I mean it got to the point where a member of the district, a district staff, had a private meeting with that young lady and that's all that happened after that and then done, Done.

Speaker 1: 52:44

So instead of the school escalating this problem, taking it to the top of the Boise School District board or whatever the protocol is, nothing moved any farther.

Speaker 2: 52:55

Correct. Well, we want to be nice and clean and gentrify and pristine, right, Because Boise is the number one. Like everybody wants to move here and all the great things about Boise, we wouldn't want to soil our reputation, after all.

Speaker 1: 53:07

Okay.

Speaker 2: 53:08

Right.

Speaker 1: 53:09

Okay, yes, of course. Well then you start getting $50 million lawsuits slapped on you, which seems to be a common thing now with Boise school district. It doesn't look very good.

Speaker 2: 53:19

There's about like four or five. There's going to be a few more coming up, I imagine perhaps After the Sayers and Miss Chung's is now catching traction.

Speaker 1: 53:27

We've had an overwhelming amount of people reaching out to us, which is crazy. Yes, but back to you. So you report this incident after a female student comes to you, tells you what happened. They have it on video Nothing happened. She found out, they have it on video and plus, there's a camera like every however many feet in almost every school in the state. I would want to say so. When you find out this first incident really doesn't go anywhere, does that trigger the red flag of there's something wrong here or was there more before?

Speaker 2: 54:01

you're like this is a pattern um, unfortunately this ignorant matthew sure needed more, I guess no, I okay.

Speaker 1: 54:08

Well, you, I mean you. Now I'm not saying in your defense, but if it was me, I did my job. You come from a previous school that you've reported problems straight to the top handled, cops were involved, everything's squashed. So now you're at a new school in under the boise school district. Something happens, student finds confidence, comes to you, you report it. You. You probably in your mind okay, cool, I did my job, it's handled, but it never was I did not know that it wasn't handled, unfortunately, until this young lady told me, I believe.

Speaker 2: 54:42

well, it was some time later, it's not like she came right back to me and reported she was no longer my student that year. She was my student her sophomore year when we went back from COVID. And so that because we're discouraged from following up with students, unlike my experience at Centennial we're told like, once you pass it on, don't talk about it because there's privacy to this and you might upset them and you might this and you might whatever. And it all makes sense to a degree.

Speaker 1: 55:08

So they're using the victim. And their privacy Angles to be able to hush people that are actually looking into this. Correct? Okay, Ms Bolton. Hey, we got it.

Speaker 2: 55:21

Yeah, mind your own business.

Speaker 1: 55:23

We don't want to rehash things with this student. It's a traumatic time. Trigger them, we're handling it. So you're like okay, yeah, totally Okay, cool, okay. So now we're on.

Speaker 2: 55:32

That sounds like something a boss could say if they're doing the right thing.

Speaker 1: 55:36

Okay, so I'm. I'm tracking how long or how many more incidences happened before you're like something's not right here.

Speaker 2: 55:49

When did this start taking place? So it was an overlap actually between the stuff that happened with me and those students, as well as the Fairmont case that unearthed, and I believe, sometime during the 2021, 2022, sometime during the 2021, 2022, 2023 school year, okay, and I was off that school year when I reported my mandatory report, and we'll get to that one, the one that really triggered everything. That year, the school attempted to take action against me, and I may or may not have had my job the next year, and so I had been exhausted by the fight, so I decided to take the next school year off.

Speaker 1: 56:29

Why is the school, why is Boise school district coming after you for reporting the student what they're? Obviously there had to be something more that happened.

Speaker 2: 56:37

I don't think so.

Speaker 1: 56:38

Really, I'm just asking. Remember, I'm going to ask questions, no absolutely.

Speaker 2: 56:43

There is, how do I say? A small undercurrent of, I believe, staff jealousy there's no other way to say it and when I reported this student's incident on Tuesday, December 7th, I believe, 2021.

Speaker 1: 57:03

This is the first student.

Speaker 2: 57:04

This is the fourth student.

Speaker 1: 57:06

This is the fourth student.

Speaker 2: 57:07

Oh God, okay, I decided, after three previous mistakes, of not going to my principal directly or my whatever, because when you walk a student down to an office, there's no video of you walking them right, so it's just kind of informal, like, oh, I took them to the counselor's office, which is what I did for one young lady three different times, okay, to three different people. Up to the front office. She had uh, this is couldn't call her student number three, um, and she had been negatively physically engaged with a young man and he would try to like, bully her at school, intimidate her in the hallways, um, and some physical things happened at school, on and off campus, um, so I did.

Speaker 2: 57:55

you know all those things she goes to this over the course of like two or three years okay, and so same same kid that was reoccurring to her.

Speaker 1: 58:03

Okay, so it's a problem.

Speaker 2: 58:04

So three young ladies, just so we can keep the math straight, Three young ladies at first, um, first one, one report. Second one one report, third one, three reports, and then the fourth one, and that was the one that got me. Uh, I think I could say where the retaliation had started. I think I could say where the retaliation had started.

Speaker 1: 58:23

So now, the Boise School District is looking at you as the problem, because these students feel confident enough, safe enough to come to you. They're reporting this Now. You're the messenger and now every time you're coming to the?

Speaker 2: 58:46

who are you reporting this to? Um, the athletic director at timberline, the principal at timberline, counselors at timberline? Um, and I am very regretful for saying I think maybe once, if at all, I might have gone to the sro and I feel terrible for what's the SRO? I'd rather not say his name.

Speaker 1: 59:06

You don't say his name. What's the position?

Speaker 2: 59:08

Oh sorry, school resource officer.

Speaker 1: 59:13

So that's the cops that are stationed at the school. So you've done this four times now. You've reported. Four different girls have come to you in confidence. You've reported them because you're a mandatory reporter. Now the school is getting irritated with you.

Speaker 2: 59:28

Oh yeah, they're super pissed and they've turned some of, I think, over the years, the staff against me, so to speak. That sounds super petty, but I don't know what other words to use People who used to be my friends, who perhaps are having a moral dilemma of like, let's see, do I stand up for other people's children or do I continue to be able to pay my mortgage? That's tough.

Speaker 1: 59:50

This is one of my biggest problems that I have with this whole entire Ms Chong Yu problems are the amount of teachers that are choosing to stay silent instead of standing up for the children, and this blows my mind.

Speaker 2: 1:00:09

They wouldn't do it if there were. Well, I would like to say they wouldn't choose that path if it was their own biological children. But again, that goes back to the mindset of what you would prefer for your children, which is a teacher that loves them like their own. And perhaps these teachers, or our culture, hasn't bred a generation of teachers, I dare say, back in the early 1900s, 10s, 20s, 1930s, 40s, 50s, 60s, 70s, it was much more a. My teacher is like my mom, right. But now it's like well, we're not allowed to talk to them about this, we're not allowed to talk to them about that. We can't do this, we can't do that. Hugging, I mean, I was told my last two years by Boise School District all the staff was no more hugging, you don't hug because you could be a pedophile. I'm like, okay, I guess we're just sticking to high fives Like poor kindergartners. Don't get hugs from their. I'm sorry.

Speaker 1: 1:00:56

Second parent that they're with eight hours a day.

Speaker 2: 1:00:58

So it's like you're telling me I can't be a mom because somebody else out there defiled what parenting is and and and like cross the boundaries that they shouldn't have. You're telling me that I can't use the word love. I was reprimanded by my principal in front of the entire group of teachers at Timberline for saying that I love my students and that I am like their mother. And it's like how dare I cross that line? I'm like I'm sorry. How loving are you to your own children if you? It's like what you were saying, like how dare you get close to my kid? I'm like that's not your kid. Whatever religion you might be, that soul does not belong to you.

Speaker 1: 1:01:38

That statement would definitely get some parents riled up, but I get both sides Right.

Speaker 2: 1:01:44

Well, a kid can always use more love, more parents, more aunts, more uncles right, yes. Love is infinite. Yes, not finite.

Speaker 1: 1:01:52

But our finite minds can't process it like that. Okay.

Speaker 2: 1:01:59

So many things.

Speaker 1: 1:02:00

There are things there are. So now that you've, the school is getting. Now boise school district is getting irritated with you because now you've reported four sexual assault problems that these girls have come to you with. Now they're getting irritated. You'd said a comment before and I forgot what you. I was going to ask you, but how's the school reacting to you now? Okay, leading up to your first suspension, did this come out of nowhere or was there a buildup? Are you now creating riff Because the track record that I'm now finding out with Boise School District? If you are a strong, okay, let's go into a conspiracy. Can I go into my conspiracy about Boise School District?

Speaker 2: 1:02:46

It's not a conspiracy. Maybe it's just common sense.

Speaker 1: 1:02:51

Okay, yes, okay. This is where I'm at. These are just. This is my opinion on the Boise School District's.

Speaker 2: 1:02:59

First Amendment rights.

Speaker 1: 1:03:01

Being presented right now. Okay, my conspiracy with the boise school district. If you are a strong, powerful, make waves type of woman, they are going. They are turning on the teachers that care the most, which are the teachers that are standing up the most for their students care, and they're doing everything they can to bury you and get you out of the system, because the leadership of the Boise school district is 100% corrupt and they're running this crazy ass operation, taking their fat paychecks to the bank, doing absolutely nothing to the district and to help provide for our better children's safety, living conditions, education system.

Speaker 2: 1:03:50

That's my conspiracy you have a lot of common sense, sir okay.

Speaker 1: 1:03:55

So now that we got that, I got that off it. That's the only thing to me that makes sense. As we dig more into this, why is the Boise School District so against legitimate, loving teachers standing up for their children? And I feel this has been going on for a very long time. Make it one of my most. I'm having to come up with a t-shirt. Make it make sense. This is how we raise our children.

Speaker 1: 1:04:24

If somebody is trying explaining something to you and you're like, huh, no, none of that makes sense, that's a problem, right? So, as miss chung has explained twice and I've sat here like what none of this makes sense. Now you're in, I'm putting you in the same boat as her. You've had four girls come to you and the school has done nothing about this. Okay, so let's pick off. Sorry, I just had to get that off my chest because now everything you're explaining to me this is where my mind's going. Okay, you're standing up, you have a voice. You're not taking no for an answer. Students, which is another common thing with these teachers, these female teachers that are getting let go. The students love them. Make it make sense. Maybe somebody hearing this can be like oh, this is why, again my finite mind that we are just such simple creatures. This doesn't make sense to me. Why a school district is getting rid of the teachers that genuinely care for the students well-being. Make it, make sense.

Speaker 2: 1:05:32

Like I would try to simplify the explanation for my students. It makes sense if you understand that it's just really basic human emotions of power, accepted power and jealousy.

Speaker 1: 1:05:51

Okay, so I'm on the right track. The acceptance part, that one, I'm make sense. I'm not this, I I'm thinking power money, I guess. Except they they feel good because they probably were some loser back in the day. Now they have this god complex because they sit on this board of the boise school district and I'm looking down at all of my teachers and all of my little peasant students. I get my fat paycheck for doing a fucking thing. Oh shit, this bolton's bringing. Hey, we got to quiet her. We have to silence her because this we're not dealing with this. I feel like I'm kind of on the right track here.

Speaker 2: 1:06:32

If I had been one to be a I believe the colloquialism is a teetoter.

Speaker 1: 1:06:37

Okay.

Speaker 2: 1:06:37

Right, uncle Sam, perhaps what were the other words that people say sell out and drank the Kool-Aid. I like that one. We say that in the education industry a lot and was still loved by my students and my colleagues. But I subscribed to all the politics of like new curriculum and Common Core and let's have no textbooks for teachers, make them do all the work and not pay them anymore, and let's pad my six-fig figure income while we cut funding from education and have teachers have a one to 40 or one to 45 ratio, because that's parenting right, like I can parent 40 people at the same time. Sure, if I was a Kool-Aid drinker and I believed in all of that, all the different professional developments that staff is forced to sit in all year long, most especially in this next coming week of school, and I was like all gung ho about it, then they would love me. They would probably pretend to have done something with those mandatory reports.

Speaker 1: 1:07:34

So what you're saying is you have to conform to them Correct In order to be a good teacher Correct, okay. So you're not a good teacher because you are standing up for the kids, you're giving them a voice. So you're not a good teacher because you are standing up for the kids, you're giving them a voice and you're not backing down and you're not stopping until these children that have been sexually assaulted by other students and, in cases, other teachers under the boise school district, they're not have and they're not. They don't want to deal with you. Okay, so student number four comes to you. She reports. Was it student number three had several incidences, or student?

Speaker 2: 1:08:11

number four. Three had three incidents.

Speaker 1: 1:08:13

Okay. So then student number four comes to you. This is when things really start to turn Correct. This is when now, now you're a problem.

Speaker 2: 1:08:20

Yes, so this was a Tuesday, december 7th night uh, sorry, I was gonna say 19, that's pearl harbor, but tuesday, december 7th, not 1941, 2021. Um, young lady reported something and I reported it up my chain of command and, uh, I was told I did it wrong, that I didn't report it to the right person. But later it turned out I did and then it still never went anywhere and I got distracted that year by my school district trying to turn the tables on me. So I was basically kind of fighting for my own job. Why? What led to?

Speaker 1: 1:08:59

that.

Speaker 2: 1:09:00

There were some false accusations that I had been unprofessional and perhaps been how do I say this? Even unprofessional with my colleague and said bad or mean things about them or whatnot to their students and stuff.

Speaker 1: 1:09:26

So you got accused of talking shit on another teacher, about another teacher to students. Is that the accusation?

Speaker 2: 1:09:32

Because when I adopt students, they don't just have to be on my roster, they just have to cross the threshold of my classroom and you are now somebody I care about. Like I've introduced myself to you and find out things about you and you could be the best friend of my student and then maybe next year you'll be my student who knows?

Speaker 1: 1:09:50

Okay, I have no problem with this.

Speaker 2: 1:09:52

And so I adopt all sorts of students. We should the whole school. It should be one big, happy family. You would think, and sometimes those students you know will share their opinions, because teenagers are pretty strong about their opinions, um, and if they do like a teacher boy, you'll hear that that teacher is the best and they're this and they're that. And if they don't like their teachers, they will absolutely share that with you too so did you?

Speaker 1: 1:10:18

did you fall? Did you talk any shit? Was this okay? Okay, I have to ask?

Speaker 2: 1:10:23

um? I just just a blanket statement. I loved and have, and I still continue to hold love in my heart for all my colleagues at Bora High School that I worked with, even though many of them have turned their backs on me. Um, there are a few that remain strong, and time tells all truths, right, that's how friendships, how?

Speaker 1: 1:10:42

friendships grow.

Speaker 2: 1:10:43

I hold a very special place in my heart for my Timberline staff and colleagues. I love them and I miss them, and I was. I mean, that's two schools. I got kicked out of that. I didn't get to say goodbye to the people that I work with or to my students. I was suspended and pulled out of both schools and didn't get to say goodbye to anybody.

Speaker 1: 1:11:04

Why.

Speaker 2: 1:11:06

Because I'm a troublemaker, because I'm a whistleblower. I made trouble at Bora. I made trouble and I'm going to continue to make trouble.

Speaker 1: 1:11:15

And the trouble that you're speaking about is just reporting what students are coming to you with correct, or is there other stuff?

Speaker 2: 1:11:24

No, it's just being a good parent.

Speaker 1: 1:11:27

Okay, so now you've been removed from two different schools for standing up for children. This, okay, this is the problem. All right, let's dig into this. So the fourth student comes to you, reports this incident. You're fighting for your job right now because you're making waves by bringing this to light. Is no other students going to any other teachers? Are you the only one at this point that students are coming to that you know of that, are reporting problems, or are they going to principals? How many? Okay, I guess my question is how many students are going to the principal or their counselor in reporting this that you don't even know about where it's just ending there.

Speaker 2: 1:12:05

We'll never know.

Speaker 1: 1:12:07

That's scary. So the fourth student you're now in the trenches. You are skylined yourself. Everybody can see you, the whole entire Boise School District. You're now on their radar. What is going on at this point?

Speaker 2: 1:12:23

They tried to fire me by giving me a bad evaluation.

Speaker 1: 1:12:26

Which came out of where.

Speaker 2: 1:12:29

Somebody's amazing and awesome diabolical mind.

Speaker 1: 1:12:33

Okay, so now the true fashion of Boise School District. You're the problem. We're going to flip everything. You're the tyrant, you're breaking the rules, you're going against what our standards are. This seems to be their angle on everybody that they want to push out.

Speaker 2: 1:12:51

Right, it's very typical like elementary school playground type tactics, because sometimes bad and evil are bad at being bad and evil and make mistakes are bad at being bad and evil. They make mistakes when you're oh, it's not even mistakes, they're just inept and ineffective. So they don't have a strategy. It's delay, deny, discredit, distract. That's what they do, that's what they do best and that is not my way. So delay and it's a military tactic. My husband, former Marine just like yourself, semper Fi, taught that to me because, with my frustration of dealing with the politics of this country, you know, he said, because I was like why isn't, why am I not getting word about this? Or why, you know, in 2018, when I was suspended, or in 2023, when I was suspended, like what's taking so long? You know, like gosh, they must be interviewing lots of people. Oh, my gosh, I must be in so much trouble. It's like no, nothing is happening, because to give me attention would validate my existence.

Speaker 1: 1:13:55

They're just hoping you go away.

Speaker 2: 1:13:56

Correct Like it's better that they think I'm like just ignore me, like I'm so beneath them, right.

Speaker 1: 1:14:01

Because a lot of teachers have just gone away, most Because they go from being a great teacher. Students love them. They report something.

Speaker 2: 1:14:12

They get taken down.

Speaker 1: 1:14:13

Now the tactics begin. Yep, which a lot of people and I'm not throwing shade they're cowards and they don't want to ever stand up. I don't know if I want to say the word coward. Most people don't want to ever stand up. I don't know if I want to say the word coward. Most people don't like conflict.

Speaker 2: 1:14:26

I haven't found their courage yet, because I was a coward once too, and I also lacked the courage too when I was younger. Any previous year to 2021, any previous state to Idaho, anytime before I met my wonderful husband, who has made me a stronger person, maybe I would have made the same choice. To just look the other way. We can change, we can grow 100, we can find our courage, we can fix our past mistakes 100.

Speaker 1: 1:14:56

So it's. I won't use the word cowards, that's that's I more put that on the the parents that aren't doing anything for their children. That's where I I'll die, on that hill. But for these teachers they've dedicated their life. They teaching is what they love to do. Clearly, if the boise school district is at you after you, you're, you're standing out for the right reasons, and these teachers are just so they're watching, watching me, they're so beat down, beat down, beat down. They eventually just give up or they move on.

Speaker 2: 1:15:28

Or they say, well, it's not, it doesn't happen to them, right, Like this isn't in their sphere of influence. And I'm like you know that this kid just ended up as like a Russian roulette, like not Russian, excuse me like a roulette wheel. They ended up on my roster. They could have ended up in your roster at whatever school. They could have ended up next door in period three instead of my period two.

Speaker 2: 1:15:47

I don't understand where we delineate love and care. Like you said, you see a kid that's hurting, you're going to do whatever it is to save that kid, blood or not. But some people have drawn lines because I think they're so discouraged by the politics and the systems in this country, especially when they work for an organization that tells them that they kind of blur the lines, right, like I went to the police and I made a ruckus and I went on the media and, oh gosh, I didn't follow their rules, which is only to go to my building administrator, which is not, it's just a rule, it's not a law, correct, it's not a law. Every staff member in Boise School District is being trained wrong. Therefore, the burden of like all those legalities, like they're teaching teachers to break the law. So who's going to be at fault when something bad happens to the kid? The teacher? That is terrible. What a huge burden you're putting on these each individuals that, like they're just trying to do the right thing and you're scaring them out of it. For sure.

Speaker 2: 1:17:10

And when more bad things happen, who's the fall guy?

Speaker 1: 1:17:13

Teachers Every time.

Speaker 2: 1:17:14

And that's what's happening to my industry. That's what's happening to the home away from home for these kids. Yes, right, I'm losing good souls in my arena that can help me. I we are losing smart people in this country.

Speaker 1: 1:17:32

Good ones are getting forced out. Correct and ones that should be retiring out of the system are being forced out of the system. Okay, so let's get back to student Number four comes to you. What is, what's the process? Why are you getting suspended? And let's roll from there.

Speaker 2: 1:17:50

So it happened. The report was Tuesday, december 7th 2021. I had to fight for my job. Second semester, so from January to May of 2022, went off to summer. I thought it got dealt with. In fact, did not realize I was being distracted by trying to save my own career at the time because I was investigated, there was interviewing me and all these things, and I was like meeting with all these district officials trying to save my job and I assumed that the baton I passed in December 7th of 2021 was being dealt with. I was an idiot. I did not follow up with the studenton I passed in December 7th of 2021 was being dealt with. I was an idiot. I did not follow up with the student because I wasn't allowed to ask her about it the next day. I was discouraged from following up whatnot.

Speaker 2: 1:18:33

Summer comes around and I'm in touch with the student still, and her mother at that time, still to this day really and I was like, hey, you know, sorry I couldn't talk about this during the school year, but just to see you know like what happened and they're like nothing. And I'm like, oh gosh. And then I found out that not only that, but the environment that it happened in continued to happen into the future, so that student had to be in the same breathing space as that individual for all of second semester in that environment. And then I got upset. By that time, though, I'd already decided to take the 2022-2023 school year off a voluntary leave of absence without pay, and I substitute taught that year at West Ada, where I'd previously worked at Centennial and at the two schools that my children go to elementary school and Pepperidge Elementary and Lewis and Clark Middle School, which is where that you know everybody's welcome thing happened last year and I just kind of sat and I watched all the Fairmont stuff happen and it blew me away because, like, how many dead?

Speaker 2: 1:19:45

Excuse me to you and you know all respect to half of the Americans in this country, perhaps, but how many dead white men do we have to have before people start getting suspicious? How many? Like that's weird to me that when a white guy gets arrested, he kills himself. I don't. I'm just going to say that that's not normal. Usually those are not the people that get arrested. Usually those people find freedom somehow through the legal system, right or wrong, and so, before these individuals were even able to be held accountable by the legal system. They took their own lives and when that happened in December, when I was off at Fairmont, I was just blown away.

Speaker 1: 1:20:27

Are you talking about Snow? Is he one of them?

Speaker 2: 1:20:28

No, this was Scott Crandall. He was a counselor at Fairmont Junior High School who had done bad things to one of his students starting from a prepubescent age. Potentially at elementary school perhaps, but definitely at Fairmont, where he was caught and the teacher slash plural maybe more than one teacher that turned him in was retaliated against. Hold on.

Speaker 1: 1:20:57

So you actually had teachers stand up report another teacher Is he the one that was making videos with these non-verbal kids?

Speaker 2: 1:21:07

no, that was this year january 10th, gavin snow, aged 22, oh my god.

Speaker 1: 1:21:12

Okay, his own life sorry it's hard to keep up with all these teachers that have been involved with the boise school district that are killing themselves. Diagram we will. We actually probably should break a chart out, because this is the fact that we're even having this conversation, so okay. So this dude gets reported by other teachers that he's doing things with students.

Speaker 2: 1:21:31

This is at Fairmont, correct, fairmont. So Scott Crandall also, and sometimes I don't know why. Well, I know why because Boise doesn't want people to focus on it, but he was halfttime at Fairmont and half-time at Capitol because, you know, due to funding, we can't have a full-time counselor at both schools, god forbid. So now he's employed by two schools. Yep. He's stationed at two schools same district.

Speaker 1: 1:21:53

And he's doing things with students.

Speaker 2: 1:21:56

He is accused of doing things with students at Fairmont. One to two of them have taken legal action against him and well, he's passed away now. But he have taken legal action against him and well, he's passed away now. But he's taken legal action against the school and its principal, chris Ryan, and there is a. There was a criminal trial. That happened last year. I attended all the hearings and it was quite a travesty. But I don't totally understand the spheres of influence above me but into the government and legal system. But his case was dismissed. Question mark in the criminal case. But there is still a civil case pending, I believe from what I can tell from reading on Google, and that hopefully will debut in, you know, maybe 2026, cross our fingers, but you know, let's think about this. This poor young lady dealt with things when she was in her young teens as a junior high school student at Fairmont and it's going to be four years before she has to relive all of it she has to.

Speaker 2: 1:22:56

Yeah, potentially this is the delay this is the deny yep, delay, deny, discredit, um, and I mean, yeah, they could go through a speedy trial, but but that wouldn't behoove anybody and yeah.

Speaker 1: 1:23:08

This dude. You don't. If you're innocent, you can accuse me of everything on the planet. If I am innocent, I am fighting to the death to defend myself. Now, if I'm being accused of shit with children and I know deep down in my dark, rotten soul that it's true, I'm taking my life. That's your only option. So this guy does this, takes his own life, and the Boise school district is still after the teachers that reported him.

Speaker 2: 1:23:40

Yes, I believe. They're unfortunately lost to the winds. I don't know where these teachers are now, but they were let go. So just to add more horror on top of that story, the same exact year, another staff member at Fairmont, at the same exact time, was caught. His name is Eric McDermott. He was the athletic director at Fairmont Junior High School. His proclivities were little boys, apparently, whereas Scott Crandall's was little girls. And Eric McDermott was caught doing bad things on the interweb something about probably dating app or something like that. You can kind of look him up on the Internet, no-transcript. When you're a bad person, you do bad things. You do bad things everywhere. It's just where you're caught.

Speaker 1: 1:24:52

You're not doing bad things on the internet and then going to your job as a school teacher and sitting there like all right students. This dude Correct and the Boise school district is cool with this.

Speaker 2: 1:25:05

Well, he's in jail. He didn't kill himself, because he didn't bring down Boise School District, because he was able to kind of dodge that bullet, because the time and space where his crime was caught wasn't associated with the school. Okay, right, so the legal kind of arena behind that, so the fact that he but he was pretty high up on the food chain as as well, so it's suspicious to me that he didn't take his own life. Um, perhaps he is a coward, I don't know, but he's being held accountable for lewd and lascivious conduct, I believe, and uh, has been sentenced to who knows umpteen years in jail.

Speaker 1: 1:25:41

um, who's the guy that got caught masturbating in like a Costco parking lot?

Speaker 2: 1:25:47

And Walmart as well.

Speaker 1: 1:25:49

And Walmart, his name is.

Speaker 2: 1:25:49

Kyle Dennis, and he is the, I believe younger brother of Kobe Dennis, who is the former superintendent of Boise School District, who retired the year that I was suspended because he didn't want to probably go out in the you know blaze of glory, with Laura Bolton taking him down.

Speaker 1: 1:26:08

Or maybe he just wanted to be tight. This guy is still a basketball coach for boys in the boys' school district.

Speaker 2: 1:26:14

I believe last I heard from my contacts inside the district the Ivory Tower, he works at what we call what teachers in the district called the book warehouse, even though we don't have any books. So I don't really know what the book warehouse is, but I'm thinking it's where they stash away people with six figure incomes that still get to contribute to their retirement, unlike myself.

Speaker 1: 1:26:39

So you're, you're telling me this guy that got caught masturbating in a Costco and Walmart parking lot is still employed by the Boise School District.

Speaker 2: 1:26:51

I believe so make it make sense um, he's related to the highest level of individuals in that school parents, parents, parents, for the love of god, please, your voices need to be heard.

Speaker 1: 1:27:13

If now, not now more than ever? Like, what are we doing? Yeah, okay, so this is why we're having this conversation yes, yeah, so he's pretty well protected, um, because of his brother right.

Speaker 2: 1:27:24

Well, his father has a name on a building. That's the tech school.

Speaker 1: 1:27:28

Derelict dennis okay, this makes sense to me.

Speaker 2: 1:27:35

This makes sense it's the monarchy um what I've since the fuck is going on.

Speaker 1: 1:27:41

I'm sorry, part of my french but god bless all big organizations.

Speaker 2: 1:27:46

I metaphorically equate to like a monarchy right and monarchies can be good and monarchies can be not good. And monarchies can be open and you can marry a commoner and monarchies can be closed.

Speaker 1: 1:27:59

And we keep it inbred with hemophilia which is what the boise school district is doing um, you have a lot of common sense.

Speaker 2: 1:28:06

Um, so it is. Yeah, so all this information is again on the internet. You could look it up. But yeah, that's that's.

Speaker 1: 1:28:15

We live in a day and age where everything is provided at your fingertips, yet nobody does anything.

Speaker 2: 1:28:21

Well, there's a lot of noise in the world. I think there's a lot of noise in the internet. I think we're all suffering from trauma in a lot of ways. If nothing else, we don't have the gumption to just like pull up our bootstraps like a good old Marine and get on with our lives, and we're kind of we're overwhelmed, right, we're underfunded, we're undereducated. It's the perfect storm of like, ignorance and depravity right now, and it's terrible because I think Americans deserve better and it starts with education and it starts with our children.

Speaker 1: 1:28:52

Yes, I 100% will agree with you on that all day. Okay, so you've been suspended Twice, twice at this point, or twice total.

Speaker 2: 1:29:05

Twice total in Boise School District never, ever before.

Speaker 1: 1:29:08

And you ended up fighting those and got brought back each time, correct?

Speaker 2: 1:29:14

I was suspended on Wednesday, april 11th 2018, after causing a ruckus at Bora for about a week.

Speaker 1: 1:29:22

And the ruckus was reporting sexual assaults on him.

Speaker 2: 1:29:24

In this case, it was when they shut down the refugee program called the Bridge Program, because I was fighting for my new American civil rights to an equal education. Because Mohammed doesn't speak English and you're going to put him in Algebra 2 because he's 17? Really?

Speaker 1: 1:29:41

This is what the Boise School District is deciding is the best option.

Speaker 2: 1:29:44

That's what they did, starting 2019. Okay.

Speaker 1: 1:29:46

So not to get super into that program and the depths of it, but this is a program for kids that are coming here, immigrant parents trying to live the American dream, which I fought for, that freedom. Thank you for your service, so I support this, thank you. I feel we have the ability to have the greatest country in the world. Politics. Aside the fact that you could come here, you're I mean for crying out loud here next month you're going to be, you're going to have the title as doctor. Yes, you came here as an immigrant. I, as a veteran of this country that have been deployed all over the shithole world, I feel that's one of the greatest things that we have and we offer is the ability for somebody to come to our country and live the American dream. They do it the right way. I 100% support it.

Speaker 2: 1:30:31

Those are the innocents you want to go save, and they're here now and we need to give them an opportunity, because if they we don't, we're just going to end up building more prisons yes.

Speaker 1: 1:30:41

So then the boise school district pulls this program, which is that this is one of those expensive, doesn't affect me, so I don't care about it. Programs I got my perfect kid in class.

Speaker 2: 1:30:52

They, they can speak english, they can listen, they can read or write. They didn't cut anything else.

Speaker 1: 1:30:57

So they've removed this program. You stand up for these kids, because now they're just throwing these kids to the wolves in these classrooms that are coming from third world countries probably a much slower learning curve and now you're throwing them in the algebra too. Okay, and you stand up for them. And that's what got you suspended the second time. That's correct. Okay, the second time, that's correct.

Speaker 2: 1:31:15

Okay, the first time that was 2018. I know it's hard to keep track of the first time.

Speaker 2: 1:31:24

Okay, so you fight that? Clearly you got brought back or did you get transferred schools? I was forced transferred because when they dissolved the program, I was in charge of a staff, so I was the head of that program and I had a staff of 15 teachers, teachers, aid, paraprofessionals, if you will, and a counselor that I worked with, and so when they dissolved it, obviously we all needed to have jobs elsewhere and we're guaranteed that if we're tenured. So tenured means that in once you work three years for most of the school districts in this country, your fourth year you're basically like, secured that job there's. There's a little bit more job security. So they force transferred me to Timberline a little bit more job security. So they force transferred me to Timberline and that was my gift, if you will.

Speaker 2: 1:32:03

And I was told to basically go there and do my job and I would never be put in any leadership position. For the rest of my tenure in Boise School District I was to be a general ed math teacher. I was not allowed to be a department head. I wouldn't be allowed to have a lead position, tech lead, any kind of lead. I wasn't allowed to be an advisor for a club anymore. No, nothing outside of just being a teacher, because they didn't want me to have that undue influence to cause a ruckus.

Speaker 1: 1:32:32

Why would you want to stay? I know you're passionate and you love these kids and that's going to be your answer, but like but. I guess this is what separates you from the rest and this is why we're having this conversation, because you didn't quit at this point.

Speaker 2: 1:32:44

When I'm being told I can't do something, that means I'm not the only one that's being told that. And once you start telling more of the people in my ranks that's why we have the problem we have in America. And once you tell me that, what's going to stop you from telling kids they can't? You don't get to tell a kid what they can or can't do. They get to figure that out for themselves. So don't you dare tell me, as a grown woman, what I can and cannot do, because I understand the Constitution and what my First Amendment rights are. You want to try to take me down, please, by all means. I have a collection of knives in my back. Would you like to?

Speaker 1: 1:33:21

see them wiggle. Hey, this is. I guess I'm spoiled because my wife God bless her. She is torching everything to a bare earth. If this type of situation is presented to her, there's no quit because of how passionate she is. So I respect this, because a lot of people are have the fear and they, they worry and they just go with the flow and they end up getting shoved out. But unless people are standing up, like you and miss chung, this is just going to continue on forever and this is why I want this platform to have a voice.

Speaker 2: 1:33:59

I appreciate that a lot.

Speaker 1: 1:34:00

Yeah, okay. So you get suspended the first time they transfer you schools, you're told you can't do a number of things. You're just going to be a regular math teacher. They've pulled all of your extra rights and tenure and everything from you Opportunities away from me. Every opportunity stripped from you, except for you being a teacher.

Speaker 2: 1:34:24

So now you're at this new school, what led to you getting suspended the second time? Fast forward, I start there in 2018, fast forward to 2021, I report. I take 2022, 2023 school year off. I see Fairmont unraveling how, With Scott Crandall killing himself, with Eric McDermott getting caught same school year. And then I come back to work fall of 2023. During the spring of 2023, the district tried to basically ask me hey, you want to come back? You don't have to. We'll give you like a little bit of money, which was like two months paycheck. And I said no, thank you, I will be back because I love my students and the sophomores that I left. It's their junior year. I want to come see them graduate as seniors and they were probably not very happy to see me sign that letter of intent to return. During that year off, I collected and archived a lot of documentation on my own behalf to protect myself from my job, so I wouldn't lose my job.

Speaker 1: 1:35:32

Sure.

Speaker 2: 1:35:33

And a lot of students reached out to me during the summer like, hey, are you coming back? Are you coming back? Are you coming back? Are you coming back? Or their parents, like, are you coming back? Because you know you had little Johnny and Susie's going to be there. Now we want you. As you know, her math teacher.

Speaker 1: 1:35:46

Which shows me that you are a teacher doing the right thing when you have kids of younger siblings and their parents are hoping that you have them.

Speaker 2: 1:35:54

I look forward to that Okay. I look forward to that Okay, because I get to meet those younger siblings a lot of the time.

Speaker 1: 1:35:57

So this to me if I'm listening to a teacher speak, that was one of my biggest green flags for Ms Chung when she's put out this whole entire her episode, how many students reached out to us and left comments? I, as a student, could give a fuck about my teachers. I'm not standing up for them. I'm not checking on them. Granted, we grew up in different times, where you don't have Instagram and Facebook, where you get to search your teacher and see their whole life.

Speaker 2: 1:36:24

But that connection.

Speaker 1: 1:36:25

But you have a connection.

Speaker 2: 1:36:26

So, okay.

Speaker 1: 1:36:27

So as a parent cool, I want to hear this. So now you have teachers or kids reaching out, parents reaching out, hoping that you're coming back. So now you're coming back to school year.

Speaker 2: 1:36:36

Yep, I came back in the fall of 2023. I was at work for a month and I got suspended because in that month while I was gone in the previous year during the summer and just my month back at school I had so many students hear about what happened to me and why I took the previous year off Because I didn't tell anybody that I was basically being retaliated against or being bullied by my colleagues who were jealous of me. I didn't. I didn't talk about those things because that would have been unprofessional. Well, it's been a handful of years and I'm over that now and I was hurt and that's not okay.

Speaker 2: 1:37:13

You know, in the investigation against me there's, like you know, staff member okay, you know, in the investigation against me there's, like you know, staff member ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOP that have testimony against me that I was a terrible person and a bad colleague.

Speaker 1: 1:37:28

And it's like that's not what happened, but but those are the teachers that fall under the regime.

Speaker 2: 1:37:30

Right, they drink the Kool-Aid.

Speaker 1: 1:37:32

Yes.

Speaker 2: 1:37:32

Okay, and most of, and I know I had no enemies when I was there, so these are all people that broke my heart, that I love.

Speaker 1: 1:37:39

Yeah, ms Chung had very similar things to say. So this is now Absolutely, this is a pattern.

Speaker 2: 1:37:44

Absolutely Okay. And do I blame those individuals? I mean yes and no. I don't know what it's like to be in their shoes. I know what I would do, but if I were in their shoes, I don't know what they were told. I don't know what threats they were told.

Speaker 1: 1:37:58

This is the frustrating part, I know.

Speaker 2: 1:38:00

I have the yin and yang Right. I know it's super messed up. So I was there for a month and in that month all these students came forward and I started hearing about more things that weren't dealt with, that I was not the mandatory reporter for.

Speaker 1: 1:38:15

Like what A couple of incidences, not the mandatory reporter for Like what A couple of incidences.

Speaker 2: 1:38:19

Well, you can read about them. Actually, on Emily White she writes for the Idaho Press and she published a story on, I want to say, sunday, september 27th 2023.

Speaker 2: 1:38:31

And she interviewed 10 female students, all from Boise school district. Five of them happened to be my students the three that I spoke of originally, not the one I was suspended for, but the three that I spoke of originally, I believe she interviewed in her. So you know their names are there. They're very, very brave young ladies and she wrote all about their stories. And then two more who I didn't file a mandatory report for but had gone to teachers, counselors, who didn't follow through, um, she interviewed them as well. And then five more that wanted to stay anonymous but I think she kind of covered their story a little bit. Um, like there was something bad that happened at bora off campus or some something to that degree and all those sorts of stories. So I was kind of getting a lot of like oh my gosh, ms Bolton's back, we can go tell her now. This is like somebody that will listen right.

Speaker 2: 1:39:26

And so I knew, legally, what I could do as far as, like, representing them. Meaning, like you know, let's say, little Susie came to me. She was my student, but she hasn't seen me for a while and whatever happened to her in whatever year, she's like oh, I should have gone to you, miss Bolton, that happened two or three years ago. What can you do? And I'm like, well, I'm going to report it, but first what you need to do is report it. You need to tell your parents. You need it. Yes, you need to tell your parents, you need to report it. You need to go to the police, file a police report because, um, I believe, like people you know could talk to a lawyer more specifically, but there are statutory limitations and I think once you graduate or turn 18, some of those laws change for you.

Speaker 1: 1:40:13

So you kind of have to make, you know, quick moves if you're a parent that's a horrible law, because if something happens to your senior year and you age out or graduate, you only have that span to do it Right.

Speaker 2: 1:40:22

Well, and God forbid. There's plenty of adults listening to this right now, probably, who are in therapy, just like myself, dealing with childhood issues, and those statutes of limitations are long over. For sure they're gone. Yeah, so I taught these young ladies to speak for themselves by giving them the, you know, seven to nine email addresses of the superintendency Kobe, dennis, lisa Roberts and all Dave Wagers, nancy Gregory, maria Greeley at BoiseSchoolsorg, and those are all admin. Those are all admin.

Speaker 1: 1:40:55

Those are the board of trustees that should be looking for the best interests of our children.

Speaker 2: 1:41:00

Right, but they have what's called plausible deniability, because if you only are told to, as a teacher, mandatory report to your admin, then really all these poor principals of Boise School District are in real deep water, because who's going to be the fall guy? Why is not just Boise school district on trial? Why is not Chris Ryan's boss on trial? Why the principal? That is so sad. There's thousands of kids in the school. The principal or admin cannot possibly know about all the things, but if they're effective they can hand it up the chain of command.

Speaker 1: 1:41:37

But if you're building a. I hate using the word safe space because it's been so played out by groups and everybody needs a safe space now, but I feel if we're going to have safe spaces anywhere in this country and in this world, it should be our public schools. Absolutely this country and in this world.

Speaker 1: 1:41:59

It should be our public schools absolutely, and this is why you need them because, as a principal and all of your teachers are on your guys's level where truly care that, then you're still not going to know everything, but the number of incidences he's going to be able to escalate and get taken care of. But instead teachers are just right drilled to not say anything or to report it, and then it just disappears. So now this guy's on trial for god, all the things. This just goes back to my point of. If we had a school full of teachers that genuinely cared, imagine one the quality of student you're putting out, the safe and confident, loving, loving positions that these kids are going to be able to feel.

Speaker 1: 1:42:37

This is so sad it is okay, so I don't even know where we're at so we're in september of 2023 I got suspended and um it was because I caused a ruckus by helping these, these almost dozen young girls, help find a voice, and you provided emails to email the school district and that's what got you suspended it went on the internet, it went viral on tiktok.

Speaker 2: 1:43:04

It was what went viral my um story okay and my advocacy for my students. Um, because I'm in touch with many of my students, their parents after graduation, all the things, and so when I didn't show up to work the next day, I was suspended on a Thursday. I didn't show up on a Friday and it had only been one month of school. This was in the very beginning of September, so they were already headhunting. Oh yeah, oh yeah, they're looking.

Speaker 2: 1:43:32

I'm pretty sure they didn't want me to finish that school year. But I didn't show up the next day because my child was sick and all my students missed me. They all were wondering where the heck I was, because in just that short month of school I'd been absent, I think, a couple of times, just for my children's beginning of the year, school stuff too, because we live in West Ada so the calendars are off. But when I'm gone and I know it's a planned absence, I always email my students, all of them, and all their parents. I never just email parents and I never just email students.

Speaker 1: 1:44:03

Shouldn't be.

Speaker 2: 1:44:04

And I would say, oh, I'm going to be gone tomorrow. Here's a link to the worksheet, parents, just so you know I did get a sub. They're very capable. Blah, blah, blah. I'm sure little Johnny and Susie will be awesome. I can't wait to come back and hear the good news. You know we'll go over the answers to the worksheet when I get back.

Speaker 2: 1:44:19

So my students are always prepared. They're never so when I just straight up didn't show up to work on Friday, they freaked out. And then I started getting texts from parents because when you're suspended as a teacher and you're put on administrative leave, you're basically in house arrest. So I was totally cut off. I wasn't allowed to text anybody, call anybody that could be possibly associated with Boise School District, whether it was staff, this. That like I mean totally ridiculous level of house arrest. And I followed that because I was brought up to be a rule follower. So but when I'm, when they engaged in text with me first my lawyer said that's fine, I'm like okay, so I get. You know, mom, mrs Smith going like hey, johnny says you didn't show up to school, are you okay, are you sick? And then Monday rolls around I didn't show up. Tuesday rolls around. I didn't show up Wednesday rolls around, I didn't show up Thursday. There's a protest out about it the following week.

Speaker 1: 1:45:15

Protests of students or parents.

Speaker 2: 1:45:17

Students and parents. Are protesting you my absence from the school because the school would not give the public answers as to why I was gone, and there was a protest of about, I want to say, 300 to 400 students across the street from Timberline end of September, beginning of August 2023.

Speaker 1: 1:45:38

You had 300 students plus show up to protest you in support of you for being suspended. That tells me all. If I'm a dad you've dealt with enough dads Most of us care. Most of us just don't give a mom. You've dealt with enough dads. Most of us care. Most of us just don't give a shit Mom. You got it.

Speaker 2: 1:46:01

Most of you have great wives that do a great job 100%.

Speaker 1: 1:46:05

But as a dad, oh my God, when we're 300 students showed up to protest, I'd be like what's going on?

Speaker 2: 1:46:15

Why, why Right?

Speaker 1: 1:46:16

She's an incredible teacher, clearly, clearly, but that's a huge statement. But why is she being suspended? Well, if this teacher is so great, what's? Why does she get suspended for standing up for girls, to have a voice, make it, make sense it makes sense, right?

Speaker 2: 1:46:32

yeah, I didn't find out about the protest actually until wednesday night oh, after it already passed no, before it was going to happen. On.

Speaker 1: 1:46:39

Thursday morning Okay.

Speaker 2: 1:46:41

Because the students are the ones that pulled it together for me and I didn't know that they loved me so much because I'd only been with them for a month and I didn't realize that I could make that much of an impact. Good for you.

Speaker 2: 1:47:19

You just taught me something new, and so I showed up and all my students came to me and I had to tell them that they're actually not allowed to talk or interact with me privately. So I had to. They all rushed out of the school and they all had signs with my name on them and they ran across the street on Boise Avenue to Starbucks and DMVs and I yelled at them because I didn't want them to get hit by a car.

Speaker 2: 1:47:50

I was like don't you jaywalk my babies. You go down that, you go to Apple and you cross the street. You go to that sidewalk by DQ and you cross that street. And they did. They crossed back because that's what I make my own children do. You cross back and you do it the way mama says you do it.

Speaker 2: 1:48:05

And they walked and they were causing a ruckus and the administration came out, other teachers, the news media was there and I could tell there was a lot of negative energy and I didn't want to breed another January 6th event in my name, because that's not what I'm all about. So I got fearful that the the students would harm themselves or each other, or or use their voice incorrectly, right yeah. And then I saw a bunch of police show up in squad cars, motorcycles and the amazing SRO at Timberline was there and some of his colleagues from BPD on foot walking through the crowds and stuff. And I was like, oh, this is making me feel really uncomfortable.

Speaker 2: 1:48:49

So I rallied the kids together and we started chanting I love you really, really loud, over and over and over and over again, and I asked some questions like do you know why I'm here today? And they said and I said say why? And they're like why? And I said because I love you. And then I asked why am I here? And I made them repeat because you love us. And I said I appreciate you coming out here, I appreciate using your American voice positively to come together and exercise your constitutional rights. I'm so proud of you. I am honored that you took the time to do this, but you need to get back to class now. Yeah, because I'm fighting for your education, not for you to have any excuse to ditch class from today forward.

Speaker 2: 1:49:42

You have major impact.

Speaker 2: 1:49:44

You have changed my life. They saved my career. Those children in that parking lot saved my career because if they hadn't stood up for me, nobody would have cared, nobody would have paid attention, the news wouldn't have been there, and so I told them thank you. I said, if you're going to stand up for anybody, you stand up for you. You stand up for what happened to you or your friend, because there were a few more protests that I helped organize in the October time frame where it was like National Child Ab. It was like what national child abuse month or some something along those lines, right? Um? So then the bell rang and they had, like I think, one more class period before lunch and I said I love you, my babies, some of you. I've never been your teacher, but I'm so honored.

Speaker 2: 1:50:34

Um, you're going to walk down to the crosswalk get your ass back on Apple or use that crosswalk over by DQ and you're going to walk down to the crosswalk, get your ass back on apple. Or use that crosswalk over by dq and you're going to go back to class and know that I love you. And all of them tried to come give me hugs and have conversations with me and I was like I can't talk to you privately but I will tell you I love you and I miss you so much. And you're going to go back to school now and you're going to make me proud and you're going to remember when you're a mommy and daddy, to protect your child to stand up for yourself, because we need to focus on the future.

Speaker 2: 1:51:05

I don't think change is going to happen tomorrow or 2025, 2026 perhaps, but maybe in 2030, something when all these kids have kids. I mean, I have students in my life that I have the privilege to call my brothers and sisters now, who were my sons and daughters from Centennial. They're 35 years old now and they're having babies, and these are some of my best friends that I met when they were 17 years old and I've become a family member to them, to their mothers, to their fathers, and I focused on that that day. I said go home, do me a favor, talk to your mommy, talk to your daddy, call your aunt, call your uncle, call your cousin, touch base with your grandmas, your grandpas.

Speaker 2: 1:51:45

You tell them what's happening. You tell them what's happening right here in Boise, idaho. You tell them about your schedule, how you're doing in school, your concerns. If you're not old enough to vote, you go talk to an adult member in your family and you tell them I need you to vote this way because I need a book in school, I need more teachers in school, I need more school. And then I got in trouble. How?

Speaker 1: 1:52:08

did the school react to this?

Speaker 2: 1:52:10

The school is very reactionary to me. It's kind of interesting. I realize now that it might seem that I'm a victim, but I'm not, because I choose to be here, so never will I be a victim. It might seem that they're, you know, egging me on or doing wrong by me, but they're not. I let them, I allow them to do that, and it manipulates them into showing the public their true colors, into showing the public their true colors, because the more they abuse me in public, the more everybody sees how abusive they are. So I will guarantee you, bam, that after this airs, I will get some sort of something. My lawyer will receive something, I don't know what. My latest reprimand, if you will, which was dated two days ago, was an email from the district's lawyer, the gentleman who met with the young lady by herself, the gentleman who sexually harassed me in 2018. He sent me a letter that said he would like me to take down the Boise School District logo from my website.

Speaker 1: 1:53:14

You got sexually harassed by this guy.

Speaker 2: 1:53:17

I did yes, and I filed.

Speaker 1: 1:53:19

He's an attorney.

Speaker 2: 1:53:20

Chargers against him and I filed with the State Bar Association against him. I've spoken about it on the news. I've talked to him in person. I have an apology recorded that he gave me that. Yeah, so it's a lot of murky water under the bridge. It's personal. He's made it personal.

Speaker 1: 1:53:42

This is the attorney for the Boise School District. Correct has sexually harassed you, correct.

Speaker 2: 1:53:49

In front of my husband at the union building, with the union president and vice president in attendance, during my investigation of how I behaved at BORA in 2018.

Speaker 1: 1:54:01

What was the incident? Just real quick, if you don't mind me asking.

Speaker 2: 1:54:03

What was the sexual harassment incident? Yes, so when a teacher is suspended, there's an investigation and the investigation is usually run by somebody of a legal background, usually a lawyer, perhaps a judge, mediator of some kind. So he was the investigator and after the investigation, the protocol is that there's usually a summary written up right of like what he found his findings, if you will and in his findings. I can't go into those details because they're semi-confidential because they involve kids and staff members. But in regards to my own self, his first sentence painted me like I was a whore. Basically, he said met with Laura Bolton and her partner and listed the two names of the ladies, and Mrs Bolton was inappropriately dressed in a tight short dress and sparkly makeup. She brought flowers and stated that it would make the mood more romantic. Those are all direct quotes, more or less paraphrasing, and that's not why I brought flowers or plants. It's because, in my culture, a gift is how you start a relationship in a positive way.

Speaker 1: 1:55:15

You brought us a gift today I did.

Speaker 2: 1:55:16

I brought you a plant, a Chinese lucky bamboo. So I brought two plants that day, three perhaps, one for each lady and one for him. But you know, evil doesn't always see gifts right. Evil sees evil. So he wrote that, though like on paper. It's in my personnel file, okay, in like forever for all to see they. I mean, at first I was like a little offended, but then I realized, oh, I'm not a whore, so it's fine, right, um, and it shows his true colors this gentleman fascinates me because what I've heard and this is just my opinion fascinating

Speaker 1: 1:55:59

he's a very fascinating, not very intelligent lawyer. By some of the things he's coming after people over which are so blatant. They have the evidence. It is there's black and white. There is no miss, and I'm speaking on this chunk of the things he's accusing and like what they're going tampering when the school is the one that's teaching. It's almost he's the what was the henchman that would carry out the execution. That he's like their little pit bull is how I take it. And this guy's probably going to come after me and fucking. Well, he can tango, but it's his actions are very irrational and immature to me of how he's going after people. So this is hilarious. I've already built this image of him in my mind, my opinion of who this guy is, and then now the fact that you're saying this it's, this is the little dweeb that's attacking these teachers and driving these women out.

Speaker 2: 1:57:03

Yep and we all happen to be women actually, which is a fascinating pattern, that I I mean, I knew it, but now that you say it, it's all women, it's all this is my common sense conspiracy.

Speaker 1: 1:57:16

So this dude has either been hurt, somebody's been hurt along the line on the boise school district by powerful women, someone has been embarrassed, someone has been checked, put down, denied, shot down. Something is rooted somewhere in the boise school district by a strong, powerful, not being able to control. You have your own voice, type of woman, and now they attack them. This is their little pit bulls, their attorney that goes after them.

Speaker 2: 1:57:47

Well, the strange thing is, the current superintendent is a woman, and one might think yay.

Speaker 1: 1:57:53

Not at all. Women are the worst haters on women. Women hate women more than anybody. Especially if you have power, you have confidence, you have a voice.

Speaker 2: 1:58:02

Women are women's biggest putter downers enemy is when it comes to that, this type of stuff I mean, once some women unfortunately reach the top, the extra leg of their x-crone falls out and they became a little bit more Y-chrome, if you will. Right, yeah, and so that's sad, it's a power. Not like a man can't be empathetic and kind and loving as a leader, absolutely. There's many, many, many that are, but that's not our strong trait, but that's not right, and so.

Speaker 1: 1:58:35

So this makes it even more fascinating to me that you have a woman which we talk a lot about here. I'm a girl dad. I want to see my daughters running their own business, running a Fortune 500 company one day, raising a family. They could be. Whatever they want to do, I support, I love women in all positions. As long as you've worked your way and you've outperformed everybody, there's no problem with it. So now that we have this powerhouse using air quotes extremely loose on that one woman running the Boise school district, you would think that she would have so much compassion for these teenage girls that are being sexually assaulted in her school district that there would be zero tolerance for and every everybody would be staked on the front, lawn out for everybody to watch what's going on. But instead she has her little pit bull lawyer that is harassing, going after, just attacking anybody that stands up and has a voice for them. Correct, correct? This is where none of this makes sense to me.

Speaker 2: 1:59:40

It makes sense if you think. Well, they're probably all in bed together.

Speaker 1: 1:59:46

I don't know how to ask this without coming off. Maybe I'm not even going to ask it, but I shall ask you, maybe when I just edit this out. I'm not picking on a religion. I'm not picking on a religion, I'm not picking on a group of people. I'm just asking has anybody dug into their beliefs of running? Who's running the top of this?

Speaker 2: 2:00:12

Yes, but I wouldn't be able to share that I did hire-.

Speaker 1: 2:00:15

Share it offline. Can I ask we could edit all this out? It always seems to come down to the Mormon and the Jews that are running these top institutions of either or, and this is where this root of evil and corruption that I've dug in the not saying but that's where power manifests from historical means, yes and money.

Speaker 2: 2:00:38

It's not conspiracy, it's just common sense.

Speaker 1: 2:00:41

And I don't know how to ask it without coming off as some Zion-a-phobe, whatever phobe they're going to call me but when you truly think common sense, for some reason the Mormon church owns a lot of things and they have a lot of power and they make people go away, and so does the Jewish side of things Right.

Speaker 2: 2:01:00

Well, so do the Catholics.

Speaker 1: 2:01:02

And the Catholics.

Speaker 2: 2:01:03

Right, it's all religion.

Speaker 1: 2:01:04

We're on the same page there.

Speaker 2: 2:01:06

Correct. Well, when you have the doctrines to manifest and tell people from a very young age their origins, you have complete power over their whole lives.

Speaker 1: 2:01:17

And then it just festers power. We won't get on that, but that's part of my. The end part of that is when we could find out who's running the top, so we'll just continue this. So I feel like if we can figure out why these people are in bed with each other, how they're in bed with each other will unravel the whole entire Boise school district, will unravel the whole entire Boise school district, and I think this is where TikTok needs to come in, because these people on TikTok are the most fascinating. They will find everything out about your life and this is where social media, I hope, comes into play. I hope to God, tiktok, you're watching. We need your help investigating who is at the top of the Boise school district and the connection.

Speaker 2: 2:02:01

Well, I think the connection must go higher than Boise school district, if you will, right.

Speaker 1: 2:02:05

Really Okay.

Speaker 2: 2:02:07

Hypothetically speaking, if I were to investigate further. I believe that there are strong ties to religious organizations. Of course. There are strong ties to religious organizations, of course, and there are more of those ties actually, because it's not that everybody in Boise School District belongs to the same church.

Speaker 1: 2:02:27

Oh, absolutely not.

Speaker 2: 2:02:28

By any means, they're very diverse.

Speaker 1: 2:02:31

If you will, it just takes a couple at the top to be aligned.

Speaker 2: 2:02:33

Correct the alignment. In fact, isn't that how do I say linked to an organization. The alignment is historical. All these people have been here for a very long time. All their family, all went to Christmas parties together in the 60s, the 70s, the 80s. They're all friends of friends, of friends of friends. Um, there are probably, I'd say, a dozen strong last names that permeate through the family tree of the monarchy of the staff in boise school district so, out of the three religions I named was are any of those correct?

Speaker 2: 2:03:09

um, well, I know idaho to be a pretty strong mormon state. I don't know if we're very strong in the catholic or jewish side of things, okay, um, but you know, dare I say, that there are things going on in the Mormon church themselves that parishioners if that's what they're called members, ward members or not are themselves bringing up within the church and, god forbid, there's an overlap where you're the same human you're just going to church now, or you're going to work now, right. Same human you're just going to church now, or you're going to work now, right? So, whether it be the school district or any of the corporations in the city, or any of the other organizations, the hospitals and whatnot, I'm sure I mean power seeks out a place to plant its seed and once that seed is planted, you get a sequoia tree. How are you going to dig that out? You're not. It has too many branches, right? It's just.

Speaker 2: 2:03:59

It's no different than the call it at the roots right, just the top correct and you may or may not ever reach the root, I mean the of the problem which is at the top, not even at the bottom right. But how do you impact it? Well, you start digging out the roots, you start opening and awaking minds. And what I do know about many of the perpetrators, as well as the top administration and the legal staff in Boise School District, is they all share not all many of them share the same alma mater within Boise School District, so these are people who went to school together back in the day.

Speaker 2: 2:04:52

So this runs deep he was a football coach for many, many, many, many years at Boise High and he liked to have a new person in his life every year of school and he was never caught until 2023, 2024. And I believe that case is probably somewhere in the works. And I believe that case is probably somewhere in the works. When I read that news article, I was pretty sad and heartbroken that it went back to crimes in the early 2000s, the early 90s.

Speaker 1: 2:05:28

That's disgusting.

Speaker 2: 2:05:30

And what's sad is he has a family here. You know his children, you know I don't know if he's married but like his wife, like everybody, has to live that, just like Scott Crandall, scott Crandall has a family and now they're probably going to be retaliated against by those seeking justice. But it's like that's not justice. The justice isn't those who were like conned and gaslighted and kept in the dark by these really amazing sociopaths and psychopaths that got away with this um because they were part of some larger organization. Who knows you know like I call it the brotherhood, because it reminds me of fight club, like we don't talk about fight club right yeah, um, because I'm trying to explain to myself, like, make it make sense.

Speaker 2: 2:06:15

Like why would a bunch of like white dudes get arrested? Question number one and then why would like half of them or more take their own lives when the police showed up? That's really weird, that doesn't happen in history. That's suspicious. That seems like maybe the oath of some brotherhood, you know.

Speaker 1: 2:06:33

Like because, like I would go down and not take the people running it.

Speaker 2: 2:06:39

Or, yeah, right, like because you're going to be revered by your homies that you leave behind, right? You're not a narc, so good for you, right? You get to go down in glory in some fashion. I don't know.

Speaker 1: 2:06:50

What religion, culture, though, I mean? You're a pedophile? I don't think.

Speaker 2: 2:06:53

I don't right I think that is the religion right.

Speaker 1: 2:06:58

Okay.

Speaker 2: 2:06:58

Some interest span. There's my aha moment, yeah.

Speaker 1: 2:07:01

Okay, I'm tracking Right.

Speaker 2: 2:07:03

And there's things happening at the top level of the government that I hear about. You know where we're trying to like lower the age of consent in certain situations. I heard that in the South, like you can be like 10 years old and get married and give consent for this and that, and like it's just cultural shifts are are fascinating to me anthropologically. Right Like in my culture circa a hundred 200 years ago, I would have married off both my children already and my foot would be about three inches thick, broken and bounded for life, not be able to walk. Really, if you're going to be real, I would have ended up in a trash can, dead, because I'm an Asian female. So just kind of happy to be alive, living the American dream right now, trying to make it so that weird things from history don't come back as norms.

Speaker 1: 2:07:48

Yeah, 100%, that's it. This is where the corruption starts. This is. This drives me nuts. So we take one of Ms Chung's posts and we talk about the pedophilia in the school and for some reason, it automatically turns political Well underneath Trump's administration, and it's like well, let's back up. This has been going on way before, and I'm not defending any party, because and I've made it very clear on this podcast I am team. Fuck the government because as a whole, if they truly cared about us, we would be seeing some major changes. So, let's, this isn't a left versus right matter. This is a us versus them matter versus evil.

Speaker 1: 2:08:35

It's good versus, which is a huge lesson that we teach our kids Like why does this? It's good versus evil. So it drives me nuts when I watch us trying to put out something to bring light to the pedophilia that's going on inside of our school districts and it turns Republican versus.

Speaker 2: 2:08:54

Well, people want to divide and conquer. Republican versus-. Well, people want to divide and conquer.

Speaker 1: 2:08:56

And as long as we are fighting in the trenches with each other over Trump's administration, biden's administration? Obama started this. It's happening.

Speaker 2: 2:09:08

Right Grownups are idiots. We fight about stuff that doesn't matter.

Speaker 1: 2:09:12

But this is where we're at as a country now, instead of them being like yo, who gives a shit when this is happening, it's happening. So why don't we all band together Because you might support whatever you want to support? I'm going to support whatever I believe in, but why can't we both come to the agreeance that our children and their health and their mental state, physical state, everything that comes with being a young, growing, developing child, need to be protected? This is where it drives it. It just it to my core. I want to be like you, you fucking idiot. Like this isn't about a left or right, it's good versus evil and we're the good trying to help. Like this is the evil and it's just so sad to see this because we're we're distracted.

Speaker 2: 2:09:58

Yep, delay deny discredit, distract.

Speaker 2: 2:10:02

Yes so it's easy to control people when they're stupid 100%. So, ergo, let's not educate them as much, let's pull public funding and let's close down things that take care of children. That seems like a great idea. Yeah, that seems like a great idea. And so then we have what we have today, and it makes sense if you're at the top of the heap and this is what you want to happen. It only doesn't make sense to those of us in the trenches until we stop and say, OK, this is pretty diabolical, Everything is on fire. Somebody planned for this. Who planned for this? Or who plural has planned for this? Who planned for this? Or who plural has planned for this? Whether it's my little fire over here with Boise or somebody's little fire in Arkansas or somebody's little fire in California, Because these cases have become an epidemic in this country.

Speaker 2: 2:10:52

I grew up in Redlands, California, Beautiful up there, California. The semester that I was suspended, a teacher there at my alma mater was also arrested and suspended. But as I followed that news story, everything happened the way it should have happened. Now I don't know about the teacher that reported them. I have no idea. Hopefully everything is okay, but at least what was supposed to happen to the perpetrator happened. What was supposed to happen to the perpetrator happened At the same exact time, triangulated in my life. The institution that I attend to get my doctorate is online. It's the number one Christian university in America, in my belief. I love my universities Liberty University.

Speaker 2: 2:11:36

They're doing a great job, but they had made big mistakes in the past as well, and they published a story I believe also in 2023, when I was suspended, or maybe early 2024, that they were sued for, I want to say, billions of dollars of all this type of stuff not having been dealt properly in the past. And there were press releases like apologies by the administration at that school, like taking accountability, like yes, maybe I'm sorry it's not enough, but it's a start. Yeah, at least you're admitting you did something, acknowledging it right.

Speaker 1: 2:12:10

Okay, it's not enough, but it's a start it's a start and and then you know.

Speaker 2: 2:12:14

hopefully you guys, the perpetrators, these organizations, realize these children's lives are ruined forever and they're going to need some financial assistance. You better dig deep. So it's all over the country. You just Google it. It's all over Oregon, it's all over California. All the 50 states have this issue. It's scary.

Speaker 1: 2:12:33

It is so back on track Now. What's going on? Where are we now with you?

Speaker 2: 2:12:42

So I was suspended all last year and then I filed a tort claim in the spring. A tort claim, I have learned, is like a precursor to a lawsuit. It's basically like a shot off the port bow, like a warning shot, like like hey, I'm going to sue you, maybe eventually, if you don't, if we don't work this out some other way. And then I believe there's some sort of timeframe that when you serve that tort claim to the respondent, I would be the claimant, then they have a certain number of days to get back to me. I would be the claimant, then they have a certain number of days to get back to me and my lawyer. And that time passed. And then summer came around and they reached out to me information online as well, and we separated the district and I separated. The terms of my separation were basically in perpetuity. I would not be eligible to work for Boise School District ever again, until my last heartbeat.

Speaker 1: 2:13:50

So they completely forced you out of the district, correct? That was their settlement. So now you're raising a little bit of track, you're getting a little traction. Kids are protesting now. They're like we just got to get rid of this chick, correct?

Speaker 2: 2:14:03

um, their plan was ineffective? Um, because, within the next breath, um, they handed me four hundred thousand dollars, which made them look guilty in the public's eyes, even though I'm the one that lost my job. But my dream job, by the way, teaching is my dream job. But in the same contract, they also offered me a seat at the table to come back and work on an executive level committee to rewrite teacher policy. Correct Befuddling, isn't it?

Speaker 1: 2:14:36

So they force you out of this Boise School District, forces you out of the school for you standing up for girls. You guys come to a settlement. They pay you out 400 grand which I did not ask for they fire you. Yes, so then they I.

Speaker 2: 2:14:54

I resigned technically, but you resigned.

Speaker 1: 2:14:56

Potato, potato, they bring you back to sit on. They bring you back immediately to sit on the board.

Speaker 2: 2:15:04

So not the school board per se, but like a committee, a subcommittee.

Speaker 1: 2:15:08

Okay, they bring you back to sit on a committee. To start.

Speaker 2: 2:15:11

Rewriting school policy on mandatory reporting.

Speaker 1: 2:15:15

Okay, my finite mind is automatically and I'm hearing we're figuring this out right as we go. This is why I have questions. It's good.

Speaker 1: 2:15:24

So if I'm the school board, this is how my mind works. If I'm the school board, we just paid you 400 grand. Let's shut this chick up. Let's put her on a committee. Now she's going to think that we care. And she's going to shut the fuck up and do what we tell her to do. And she we're going to have this little position, even though it's bet, it's unpaid. Keep your, keep your enemies closer right. This is to me. This is that tactic. How?

Speaker 2: 2:15:50

long it was the distract part of the game right delay, deny, distract I oh okay, I get to sit on a committee and make a difference. An unpaid volunteer position, meeting with them weekly, biweekly.

Speaker 1: 2:16:05

My next follow-up question to you would be is how long did this last?

Speaker 2: 2:16:08

From September to December, all first semester.

Speaker 1: 2:16:11

Three months.

Speaker 2: 2:16:12

From the beginning of the school year until the first semester.

Speaker 1: 2:16:15

yeah, Then what happened?

Speaker 2: 2:16:17

So during those meetings they were very productive I met with the two assistant superintendents, the HR director and an area director from one of the parts of Boise. So Boise is divided into four parts. They're called quadrants, just like in math. So there's the Boise quadrant, timberline quadrant, bora quadrant and Capital quadrant. So this lady was in charge of one of those quadrants. So I met with four individuals weekly um and we talked about ways to improve um the policies and procedures in boise school district so that what happened to me meaning the mandatory report kind of falling into the wind um didn't happen anymore so you feel good at this point you're making a difference.

Speaker 2: 2:17:03

I do. Yes, I was nervous. The first meeting was online because they were probably more nervous of me, and then we continued to meet in person and, of course, I had to know my place right. I went in with honey, not a hammer, and I listened and I asked really simple questions within my like diminutive state as a teacher, because I'm not a policymaker, I am not a principal, I am not a director.

Speaker 2: 2:17:25

I you're a teacher right, I don't have an admin degree, I'm not a lawyer, I'm not a cop, but I'm a teacher. So, as a teacher and as an immigrant, I'm here to ask you, oh great council of committee, why don't we call the cops?

Speaker 1: 2:17:42

What was their response?

Speaker 2: 2:17:46

That was their response.

Speaker 1: 2:17:47

Nothing, Nothing. So when they brought you on this committee, did they immediately regret this decision?

Speaker 2: 2:17:55

Oh for sure they did. I guarantee you that the person that offered me this is getting flogged and feathered.

Speaker 1: 2:18:02

Okay.

Speaker 2: 2:18:03

I don't know whose grand idea it was, but it sure as heck saved my reputation because-.

Speaker 1: 2:18:08

Oh, it made you look great. Now they didn't admit to being wrong, but they paid you 400 grand to shut you up. Then they put you on this committee.

Speaker 2: 2:18:17

They've never done before. No school district in this great country in all the years of public education has ever been sued by an educator. No district in 50 states has ever paid out more than probably 100 grand. And if they have, then it didn't make the news. So it was probably more like a personal situation where it wasn't like having to do with legal things, having to do with children, right Like. Maybe it was just more between like, maybe like harassment between two colleagues or something you know.

Speaker 2: 2:18:45

So it wasn't anything newsworthy, and definitely not in this amount. So Boise School District has never, ever really had any lawsuits, because they're very good at gentrification.

Speaker 1: 2:18:53

They're dealing with them now, right.

Speaker 2: 2:18:55

And West Ada has had tons of lawsuits, but I dare say maybe because they're dealing with it now, right, and west ada has had tons of lawsuits, but I dare say maybe because they're dealing with it right. Bad things are going to happen and if you deal with them, they're going to make the news which is the whole reason boise school district avoids it correct you're because, if you were doing the right thing, you are going to have lawsuits because you're going to be handling things the right way.

Speaker 1: 2:19:15

Parents are going to be finding out and it's going to be making the news which puts you on the map, puts you on the radar, which school districts and this, this elitist group run by I guarantee I'm going to figure this out run by a certain group of individuals that are all connected, puts them on the radar. Right, and that's their.

Speaker 2: 2:19:34

That's what this all comes down to right and that's where those leaders have an opportunity to stand up and lead. Just like there's things that happen every year at some of the local places that kids hang out with here. My children and I like to go to those places. I don't want to defame anybody, but those bad things in those organizations, whether it's a fast food, restaurant or a recreational place that kids go to, they happen. Restaurant or a recreational place that kids go to, they happen.

Speaker 2: 2:20:01

And I know that those are handled properly because when you read the news stories it'll say like oh, the owner of such and such or the CEO of such and such says regrettably, this happened. Trust us when we will take this to the full letter of the law, we will staff this and we'll do all the right things. And they said it and they apologize to the community. They feel bad about it because that's what leaders do. Said it and they apologize to the community. They feel bad about it because that's what leaders do. Leaders should bring people together in a positive way, not divide and conquer.

Speaker 1: 2:20:23

That is not good leadership, that is not loving, that is not accepting the consequences correct and saying, hey, I'm sorry this happened, yeah, I, I will make it right even if it's a bullshit ass response, they're still making a response which is not what's happening here, they're just nope, just shut up and let's close the door and we'll wait a little bit. Peek out every now and then.

Speaker 2: 2:20:47

Okay, it's still going and it's important to reflect on the past and say I'm sorry that I let this thing happen. You know this thing back here, I'm going to talk about this thing because I'm ashamed of it and to get over my shame. I'm going to talk about it.

Speaker 1: 2:20:58

This is how we're going to fix it and this is we're going to do everything we can to never let this happen again.

Speaker 2: 2:21:02

But they don't. They just say we regrettably cannot comment on active investigations. But we would like to tell you that the safety of our school and our staff is yada, yada, blah, blah, blah and and there's never an apology or a sorry or whatever. Maybe not never.

Speaker 1: 2:21:17

Maybe there's one Never admit to guilt of any sort.

Speaker 2: 2:21:19

No, no, because then that opens up to litigation that can be used against them in testimony. Then they don't have plausible deniability anymore.

Speaker 1: 2:21:29

I mean, there's just so many Rabbit holes that that leads. Totally Okay, so you get brought on to this committee, this committee.

Speaker 2: 2:21:35

You're there for one semester I get access to all the things. I get all the files that teachers are trained on. I get access to all the videos that they watch. I get access to all the draft and official copies of the student handbook, the board policies. You can find most of them online, but I get like their copies emailed to me because I have to help find the holes, which I feel this is a huge mistake on their part.

Speaker 2: 2:22:00

So then I identify those holes and, like a good Asian math teacher and student, I do my homework for them and I say here are all the holes you need to fix them. And it's so easy, it's like three steps Call the police, call CPS, then let the building administrator know. Super easy, just erase all the other stuff that they're being told to put up with my company. They didn't want to meet with me every single week and waste an hour or two of their time every day. They definitely didn't. They were very kind, individuals, right, very professional. They're just doing their job.

Speaker 2: 2:22:48

They're just doing their job. They were told to basically hang out with me and spy on me perhaps. And I gave that to them and they said well, you know, in order to make board policies, the board has to, uh, vote on it and dah, dah, dah. And you know, we'll have to vet the documents and it'll take us all summer and then, you know, we'll probably look to change things for next school year, 2025, 2026. I said cool, golden, that's awesome.

Speaker 1: 2:23:13

The momentum started. Rock on, yeah, let's do it. You lit the fuse, I did the thing that's awesome.

Speaker 2: 2:23:17

Now we're good. Right, we're good. I'm here on Victory Road walking into the admin building. It's December, merry Christmas. I got them Christmas presents. I got them presents when.

Speaker 1: 2:23:32

I went to Hawaii with my husband in October. It was all I brought them plants. I'm sure that office was full of bamboo just everywhere. Every window's got bamboo in it.

Speaker 2: 2:23:37

Right, I mean I don't have a beef with any individual individual right, it's just a system. Right, I don't burn bridges. I build them. If somebody wants to burn them on the other side, there's always a half a bridge there. I'll leave it open. Some people I won't, but some people it's still going to be there. I worked hard, and so then, merry Christmas, happy New Year. We come back. January rolls around, everything's good. Right. January 10th, gavin Snow kills himself when the police arrest him. Try to, I don't know, somewhere in there.

Speaker 1: 2:24:13

Showed up to his residence Something.

Speaker 2: 2:24:15

Yeah, I don't know if it was residence or school, I don't know what the weapon I don't know the manner in which people can google the name right um, but it sounded a lot like the scott crandall situation. Um, there was also a situation actually this september october I was suspended in 2023 there was another teacher at fairmont that took his own life, but nothing has ever connected him to any wrongdoing per se, so, but that's still like, obviously it sucks to be like mental health sucks If you're an educator. Why, why did that guy kill himself? Tell me right, why, guy? Why did he kill himself? Maybe he's holding secrets? Maybe he didn't do anything wrong?

Speaker 1: 2:24:56

Maybe he's just so morally distraught I hate to assume because suicide's such a horrible thing it's the worst way out yeah, so I don't want to assume right right, but there's a pattern there is a pattern of behavior and that is. I would hate for somebody to assume if I lost a battle to anything and put me in a category as a pedophile correct so I don't want to, I don't want to open that gate. So he takes his life, for whatever reason may be right the time I got suspended.

Speaker 2: 2:25:19

Then fast forward january 10th this year, gavin snow um at valley view elementary school and I immediately was that. I think it was on a thursday or friday. The news um aired a broadcast and wanted to speak to some parents at Valley View Elementary School and I have lots of mom friends in this district now. I have lots of new brothers and sisters in my life and I have always stood by the fact that I am not a really big fan of being in the media. I appreciate the opportunity to be a voice for this community. However, I'm putting a pretty big target on my forehead and my back and I do care about my family and my house and you can find where I live if you just Google it. So am I safe?

Speaker 1: 2:26:08

Not really, probably, but this is what it takes.

Speaker 2: 2:26:10

It is what it is right. So I did what I did and I went back on the news after being not on the news. So after my settlement I was on the news in August just to kind of set positive intentions moving forward, like I'm going to be on this committee. I look forward to it. I was told in my settlement agreement that I am only allowed to use the word that we settled and parted ways amicably and it was absolutely truthful up until December, until another pedophile killed himself, and that's when I was like aha, I believe I can call it a pedophile sex ring. Now I think there's a good pattern of behavior and I got in trouble for using those words and going on the news on the sidewalk in front of district office I have a what's it called? Notice of trespass, which is basically like a no contact order, restraining order, if you will, against me myself and I singular entity Laura Bolton. I'm not allowed on any Boise school district property until the year 2027 because of the ruckuses that I cause.

Speaker 1: 2:27:16

So you were on this committee. When the light bulb goes off, you're now have enough. I don't want to say evidence, but pattern of history with the teachers inside the Boise school district and how all of these teachers are all of a sudden killing themselves when stuff gets brought up which is very suspicious, to believe that it is a pedophilia, sex ring. Yep, run from the top In your opinion.

Speaker 2: 2:27:47

I don't know if it's the top, but it's definitely above me. It's above the teachers, probably involves some of the teachers.

Speaker 1: 2:27:56

Where does it go from here? Is this it Like you on here with your voice and educating the parents? This is one of my biggest problems. Besides the teachers not standing up, are the parents. Now I have a problem, major problem, and I'll die on this hill that if you're a parent and you know this stuff is going on and you're not standing up, up for your child, you are bottom of the bottom for me. But at the same time, there are so many parents that just send their kids off in trust that we're sending our right children well, and that trust gets violated and betrayed right constantly.

Speaker 2: 2:28:34

And when we are violated and betrayed, sometimes we continue to live in denial because we don't have the strength to deal with it at the time, or we become outraged and then we seek help. And those many, many victims and their parents have found me. Yes, I have heard from children students, former students, current students that I told my parent, they talked me out of it, or I told my parent but they won't help me, or I can't tell my parents, I don't have a relationship with them, or I don't live with my parent because I have challenges in my life and they have, you know. I mean, the things kids deal with is ridiculous these days. Yeah, so it's-.

Speaker 1: 2:29:11

It's so sad, it's. Yeah, can you tell mom to turn the AC on, please? So that the ac on, please, um, so that you know. That being said, there's a lot of, and those are the parents and the ones that just have no idea and they just might not be that parent where they just fully trust or they're just blind to it. Right, this is, this is the point of this, because I hope to god that they're sitting there and somebody sends them a link. They come across the clip, whatever it may be. This is my whole reason for having this conversation. We have probably other conversations with the amount of people that are reaching out to us with the evidence and everything that's going on. I want to help all these students Like I feel like I can save them by just giving a voice.

Speaker 2: 2:29:58

They need to have awareness.

Speaker 1: 2:29:59

That's just it. It's just awareness. But the fact of how deep the Boise School District is going to cover up things, and blatantly, not just well, we can't come up with a conclusion of why this happened. They're just blatantly lying about things, right. They're just blatantly lying about things, right, which, if the school district is lying to the parents, that is the only red flag that I would need to see to raise. Holy hell in that school.

Speaker 2: 2:30:32

There's a lot of parents that most of the parents that I help are ones that have come forward and they got blocked by the school district.

Speaker 1: 2:30:38

How is the school district blocking parents, which I feel the parents have the right to everything in a public school.

Speaker 2: 2:30:45

So there is an incident that I know of that happened in an elementary school over on the east side of town to a third grade little girl. I met her when she was in eighth grade because I had her brother as a sophomore the year. I was suspended and became very good friends with the mother. This little girl was assaulted by her classmate in school. All the right things were done, the teacher reported it, the parents reported it and the parents met with the school district several times. There's recordings of those meetings and voices of current administration in Boise School District saying things to this mother like oh well, you know, you don't need to go to the police, we will figure it out, like we'll decide whether it's, you know, legal worthy, police report worthy or whatnot.

Speaker 1: 2:31:36

If we're having this conversation, it's police report worthy.

Speaker 2: 2:31:38

Right, and so there was a lot of stonewalling. And this particular parent that I'm very good friends with is amazingly educated and I think she just thought that she needed to keep knocking on the door for the school district to do something because the perpetrator was a child that was also probably seven, eight, nine years old. And going to the police and having this kid arrested is not usually what adults go to, right, we think we're going to go to the adult in charge of this kid and that never went anywhere. And there was, I think, four meetings of you know, several minutes hours each, and a lot of the students that I have helped come forward. Those parents have shared stories with me of previous incidences where they went to the teacher or the admin and the teacher is too scared to take it to the admin, or they do, and then the admin doesn't handle it properly and they don't suspend the kid when he does something really bad, and then he does something.

Speaker 1: 2:32:40

This is, this is where it should just be a black and white standard, and I don't it sucks, it doesn't? It's kind of scary, because then you start getting the uh, just people that want to accuse an ex or just fuck with somebody. But this is where okay, here's protocol laid it all out there's this there's no, oh, we're gonna take it to the admin and see where it goes.

Speaker 1: 2:33:05

Nope, you call the cops. You call cps. You're sitting down with the. If you're coming to the school with a sexual assault from another student or a teacher, that's important enough for me to be like okay, we need to have a. Okay bring the we need, we, everybody, now. Everybody needs to hear everything. We need all the evidence we need to gather and we need to build a case on this now and start this process. Why is this so hard?

Speaker 2: 2:33:29

They don't have the protocols in place.

Speaker 1: 2:33:32

It's complete bullshit. Yeah, because if they had the right protocols in place, that's what puts them on the radar, and then the parents wouldn't realize what is actually going on under the roof of the Boise school districts. Right?

Speaker 2: 2:33:44

Correct.

Speaker 1: 2:33:45

Yeah, so it's. I'm not even in the fucking school system. We are so far from the school system of the fact that it's taking me to like hello parents. This is because we're those parents. We went to an extreme with our children. We were like not dealing with it. Bye, you're coming home with us.

Speaker 2: 2:34:06

And the sad part about that is, if I were you, I would have done the same exact thing. If I were parents all over this country who are homeschooling their children because of COVID and what happened, mental health and whatnot if something bad happened to your kid bullying or anything even worse up to what I've been helping parents and families deal with I would absolutely take my kid out of school too. Absolutely. You're doing the right thing, however, or put them in a charter school or put them in a private school. If you can afford it right, do it. Be an amazing parent. Please protect your child.

Speaker 2: 2:34:39

Not everybody has the ability Awesome right and not everybody has the ability. So those are the voices I have to speak to 100% Right American public education. But just to speak on the alternatives. When people do take their kids out, please, parents, be careful, because when you do that, when you talk about voucher systems and when you talk about, you know, taking money from this pot for this pot and all the things, taxes and things I don't totally understand. Your kid is going to grow up and be a grownup and they have to live in the real world with real people, real people who were sexually assaulted by their teachers and that perpetrator might hurt your kid as a full grown person and you could have done something about it. By speaking up, you could have helped that hurt kid not be a hurt kid, becoming a hurt adult.

Speaker 1: 2:35:26

I agree.

Speaker 2: 2:35:27

Right, I agree, and you're pulling funding away. And I mean, I'm a pretty qualified educator. I would never homeschool my own children, never in a million years. I hated doing it during.

Speaker 1: 2:35:38

COVID, really I was going to ask you this, okay.

Speaker 2: 2:35:41

I do not believe that I'm the only parent that is good enough for my children. I think there's a lot. All the teachers at pepperidge elementary, lewis and clark and centennial that both of my children have ever had are amazing so, yeah, we could say the same thing.

Speaker 1: 2:35:54

I mean, we we're still in contact with they, have teachers that reach out just to check, like we. So we had incredible teachers because we were right here. Yeah, and administrators, you live right behind the school. Both my girls went to Yep. I guarantee you know teachers that we're friends with that are there, and Ms Barnes, and we know all kinds of teachers. Right, I'm with you, right. But then at the same time, I also agree that if your kid's going through a traumatic time and you're just yanking them out and not addressing, pull them if that's your thing, but you also need to be addressing that situation If it was a bullying or whatever, the sexual assault, whatever may be going on that's.

Speaker 1: 2:36:35

I feel parents are making a huge injustice by just, oh, my kid's getting bullied, because now that bully is going to go and retarget on somebody else and nothing's fixed.

Speaker 2: 2:36:45

But we're a country of individuals and we don't really are. We don't think about the we, we think about the me.

Speaker 2: 2:36:50

And as long as my kid's safe, I don't have the time or inclination to care about other people's kids. I'm barely making ends meet. I'm in a single mom, I'm a double income household. We can't pay the mortgage. We have this. We adults are dealing with so much because of all the grownup issues that we have in this world, in this country. So it's again. It is the perfect storm and the kids are the only ones that I can truly impact. Like it needs to be a trickle up effect, not a trickle down effect, right, and so you know these kids. They don't have help. Like we need to give them a voice, absolutely.

Speaker 2: 2:37:23

And nobody will listen to them.

Speaker 1: 2:37:24

Absolutely, and it's so sad for parents that truly care and you watch a kid go through something traumatic or that's affecting them and then their voice is hushed. That is the saddest, one of the saddest things for me, and that's where us, as parents, always have a voice. I believe, as long as you're not some pathological liar we've taught our kids and to this day I can honestly say I don't think either one of my kids have ever lied to us. That gives me the ability to believe every single thing they're going to tell me.

Speaker 2: 2:37:59

Right.

Speaker 1: 2:37:59

So if my child comes to me and this goes down to the parent having that relationship with their children, which they not a lot do it's hard, and I'm sure you can vouch for that. It's hard to be a good, involved parent because we have so many other things that are pulling us in so many different directions. But this is why it's important to build that relationship with your children at an early age, that they can come to you and talk to you. So when your child comes to you with something, the worst thing you can do is ever question it to you. So when your child comes to you with something, the worst thing you can do is ever question it to them, right.

Speaker 2: 2:38:28

But most people I dare say bam, just mathematically, like a flip of a coin. Half of human existence was not planned or wanted. The other 50%, super like. I'm watching my ovulation calendar I want to get pregnant, we're infertile and we're trying so hard and like those are wanted babies. 50% of the world, through all existence, from the minute, whether you believe in caveman or Adam and Eve, were wanted individuals. But the other 50% were unplanned, unwanted. Whether it was a teenage pregnancy, fetal alcohol syndrome, an oopsie when you're 40 something years old, or whatever, that unwantedness sets the stage for the rest of that human's life. I know because I was not a planned pregnancy. I don't believe and I'm not particularly close to either of my parents. I am close to them, they're not close to me, let's put it that way.

Speaker 1: 2:39:17

Well, I mean at the same time, though both I'll admit this both of our children and I will defend them to the death. I love being a girl dad. It's hard for me to talk about it at halftime, because I love my children so much. Neither one of them are planned.

Speaker 2: 2:39:31

Yeah, and so planned and unplanned doesn't have to mean wanted or unwanted.

Speaker 1: 2:39:36

Yeah, I mean, there's a lot. I know people that have tried and they finally had a kid and now they hate the fact that they're parents.

Speaker 2: 2:39:42

You go either way, but I mean Parenting is a gift, that is a reflection of us right.

Speaker 1: 2:39:46

Yes.

Speaker 2: 2:39:47

When our children are terrible, it's because we did a bad job. When our children are awesome, it's because we did a good job. It's super simple right.

Speaker 1: 2:39:57

See, I've had people argue with this because that's one of my unpopular opinions. Shitty kids come from shitty parents and I know that because I have buddies that grew up completely silver spoon kids, grew up in mansion, but they think they had good parents because they just gave them everything. That doesn't make you a good parent. A good parent is being able to have that open line of communication, knowing that your kids can trust you when they walk in that door and be able to hey, this, this and this happened to me. This is what I have going on in my life. I messed up Mom, dad. How do I fix this? That scares me. That's one of my top five terrifying moments as a parent is when my children and they will, because they all make mistakes. When that mistake is made, they do not have the ability to come to me.

Speaker 2: 2:40:45

That terrifies me or when a mistake is made against them and they don't even know they're violated, which is the big problem in Boise School District. I think a lot of students and children in this generation don't know what safe behavior is in relationships with whether it's parents, peers, their bosses, people at school or whatnot. And I recently picked up a book and I met the author. Um, her name is Karen Brooke and she wrote a book called safe behavior strange behavior, and it's a pretty thin little, easy to read centimeter thick book with a handful of chapters and it's it's written for children, um in uh, in a mature way.

Speaker 2: 2:41:24

It doesn't way, it doesn't get gory or talk about inappropriate things, and as a parent I would feel very comfortable. I'm going to have both my children read it actually. But it basically identifies when your friend starts telling you that you can't go to lunch every day with your other friends, that's a red flag. The book actually is a very plain book and there's just a little red flag on the front, so it's pretty easy to identify and she's a great lady. I met her a couple weeks ago and she and I will be speaking together at a conference, a political conference actually, on October 15th. And because a couple of politicians reached out to me Commissioner Vicki Purdy and Idaho State Senator Tammy Nichols and that's when I realized this isn't about politics or religion, this is about people who care about human beings. And we're not raising children, gentlemen, ladies, we're raising adults.

Speaker 1: 2:42:23

Oh my God, thank you. I've never. I feel like I'm the only one that says that yes.

Speaker 2: 2:42:28

We were all children.

Speaker 1: 2:42:29

We, from day one in this house, have raised young adults, because I, I personally feel when you're raising a child, the mom, especially the mothers, stay in that it's my baby, it's my mom, but look, it was just a couple years ago, oh how cute yeah and they forget that you're raising a teenage child now.

Speaker 1: 2:42:51

That's never been told. No, it's been given everything. Doesn't have rules, doesn't have chores, doesn't have responsibilities, because they're your baby. Right now you're putting an 18 year old, grown child into the world and throwing tantrums, and that's who you see all over the news with the loudest voices, parents that don't say no, parents have permissive parenting or love and logic type stuff.

Speaker 2: 2:43:10

It's like, oh, all I'm doing is redirecting. We don't want to tell him no. I'm like, well, rapists are told no and they ignore them as well, don't they? So good job.

Speaker 1: 2:43:20

So I want to. Is there anything else we want to cover? Because I just have some questions that are. They're still on topic, but it's going to take us away from the conversation. Are we good on everything that you? I want to make sure we cover everything that you're happy with, see no, that's pretty much it the cover. Okay, so you're happy. I just have some school questions.

Speaker 2: 2:43:39

Let's just dad questions, I guess yeah, um, well, actually, so the current status of where things stand.

Speaker 1: 2:43:45

Okay, yeah, let's wrap that up, sorry.

Speaker 2: 2:43:47

No, that's okay. So Gavin Snow committed suicide. Okay, right, that was January 10th. He was at Valley View. Okay, he was the paraprofessional for the severe and profound special ed program, which we know what that is now? Yep For the preschoolers. So we're talking about three to five-year-old little babies that are non-ambulatory, which means they're mostly in wheelchairs and non-verbal, and if they are verbal meaning they could talk, but that doesn't mean that they're verbal in the sensical way where you can't necessarily hold a conversation with them.

Speaker 1: 2:44:21

You're happy they're making noises. You're very happy they can. I see that in the most polite way.

Speaker 2: 2:44:24

Correct. Well, because the first signs of like speech are the most important. And for somebody that is a delayed learner, whether you have ADHD or dyslexia, like myself, or you're a foreign language learner, also like I'm, a special ed student by label actually, because I'm an English language learner, I have dyslexia and I have ADHD. So if you're a delayed learner, it just takes you a hot second, a little longer, right. And so when these kids can grunt the ABCs, that's golden. But we still don't label them as verbal, because that is a completely different thing. Plus, they're three to five. Most three to fives aren't verbal anyways yeah.

Speaker 2: 2:44:58

So that was his area that he worked in and his victims, as far as I know right now based on the news, are all little boys. And then I found out through the interweb. So I don't have social media, I don't do Facebook or MySpace back in the day or anything like that. No, Insta Tweety, nothing like that. No, no, Insta Tweety, nothing. I have a webpage, it's phoenixadvocacyorg. I have an email address, like it's 1995. It's laura at phoenixadvocacyorg and I that's, that's what I put out on the internet. So these moms that were at the school Valley View reached out to me and were like this is terrible, how can I help? My child is not a victim, but this is my school, or my child is a victim. So I have met several of Gavin Snow's families that he has violated their children.

Speaker 2: 2:46:00

And then, somewhere along the line, a couple of weeks later, I get word that Gavin Snow was at Cynthia Mann Elementary working two years previous, so he was 22 years old when he took his own life. He worked for Boise School District for three and a half years. He was in the middle of his fourth year when he took his own life and the first two years he was at Cynthia Mann and year number three and year number three and a half at Valley View.

Speaker 1: 2:46:28

So he started at 18 straight out of high school.

Speaker 2: 2:46:31

He graduated from, I believe, capital High School. His family members are staff members in the district and they got him a job at Cynthia Mann Elementary School where, where that particular principal actually was married to a perpetrator on my list, a female perpetrator. So the principal is a gentleman, if you can call him that, and he and his staff are closely related to Gavin Snow.

Speaker 1: 2:46:59

So he gave Gavin Snow a job there, correct?

Speaker 2: 2:47:01

And Gavin worked at the preschool program as well. Again, everybody can look this up on Google Public information, public information. I was also told by members of the athletics program, like parents of children, that he also coached at Cynthia Mann, like whatever sports they have going on there. And then for some mysterious reason I'm not sure why he was transferred at the end of year two, beginning of year three, over to Valley View. Now he might have wanted to transfer, he might have not.

Speaker 2: 2:47:31

Maybe there was an issue, who knows? We will never know right, because that's HIPAA, ferpa, personnel file stuff. But somebody knows because whatever incident was involved, there's a victim and when that victim comes forward we will know. Time tells all truths, but the district would not tell the public for a month that Cynthia Mann was his first place of perpetrating. They refused. I write weekly reports. As a former member of the Executive Healthy Relationships Committee of Boise School District, circa September to December 2024, I continue to write weekly reports to the Board of Trustees. I also include about 30 key politicians that I am in contact with, as well as the five members of the Boise Police Department that I meet with and collab I wouldn't say collaborate, I'm an informant right.

Speaker 2: 2:48:24

They don't work for me. I work for them. I'm just a citizen giving people information and they trust me to ask for my help. So I include lots and lots of people on this email to the board of trustees, as well as the superintendent, and my lawyer.

Speaker 1: 2:48:35

This is going out to a lot.

Speaker 2: 2:48:37

Weekly, like anything I hear. I'm a voice for the community. I'm just funneling, I'm just a microphone. So if I hear from five different moms and the latest on this and this and that, I put it in the email. So there's no plausible deniability. The trustees read it, the politicians read it, the police read it, my lawyer reads it and I share it with the people of our community. So there's like weekly emails at this point new things happening and I'm like, hey, so I hear he worked at Cynthia Mann. You're going to tell anybody? Because I can't. That would be breach of like a lot of things. One, it's unprofessional, it's not for me to tell. And finally, a month later, in February, they sent out notice to the Cynthia Mann community.

Speaker 1: 2:49:20

Hey, this is what's going on.

Speaker 2: 2:49:22

Yeah, I had to. I forced their hand and they were reactionary, so I basically had to threaten to tell the public and they told the public.

Speaker 1: 2:49:32

So you, for everybody listening, this snow turd was using young little nonverbal children that are in wheelchairs.

Speaker 2: 2:49:45

Taking photo evidence and maybe more of them taking and making child pornography with it.

Speaker 1: 2:49:52

He gets caught. In the boys he gets caught. The boise school district took a month to allow to notify of his previous employment of another school. Why?

Speaker 2: 2:50:08

because they're scared. It's all about delayed, denied, discredit, distract this is so the whole thing will unravel.

Speaker 1: 2:50:14

If you're, I mean so now, who knows how many victims right have been at this school, right okay?

Speaker 2: 2:50:21

So that happened. And then more outrage, of course, and I was on the news again and they didn't like that. So they served me with the notice of trespass, which is an infringement of my First Amendment rights, because I was on a sidewalk. They were upset because I was attending community meetings like they had a community meeting at Valley View and they accused me of things that were untrue, like- Get you for inciting a riot.

Speaker 2: 2:50:48

Nothing happened actually. I didn't speak to anybody, but I am the only person that looks like me in that cafeteria to put it lightly, I'm often the only person that looks like me in Idaho. So and I stood in the very back of the room, stared down the admin in the front and they did not like that. I stood there and I was accused of handing out business cards which I didn't realize was illegal. I was accused of having conversations with parents which I also didn't realize was illegal, and a bunch of other stuff. So it's great for you know, another tort claim which I filed. My lawyer, my amazing legal team, filed a tort claim for me sometime in the spring. Amazing legal team filed a tort claim for me sometime in the spring and as a consequence of what Boise did to me, west Ada has blacklisted me as well. So just to keep count again, bam, my first lawsuit I won last year. I have two more, lawsuit, number three and lawsuit number two and three Back with Boise and West Ada.

Speaker 2: 2:51:44

Yeah, so one was with boise and west ada okay on one, that's just one one lawsuit and then another, just boise lawsuit okay so the just boise lawsuit is my first amendment rights, because they were upset at me.

Speaker 2: 2:51:55

That's the one that has the notice of trespass linked to it, where I am restraining order for the next two years. Awesome, because then I can't help my clients in my agency. Right, like as Dr Laura Bolton, I am qualified to attend any meeting you could possibly want me to attend with you. If you're a special ed student and your parent thinks you're not getting the services that you deserve, I'm happy to attend with you and ask lots of really awesome questions that you won't realize need to be asked. But I can't help you because I'm not allowed on Boise School District campus. So how do I have a meeting in a building I'm not allowed to, because the police have in fact told me I will get arrested. Now the police didn't like telling me that, and it's not the police's fault. I'm not mad at the police at all, but they have to do what the law tells them to do and if there's a restraining order out on Laura Bolton and it says I can't put a toe on this parking lot, then they're going to do their job. So I'm not going to put my friends, the tried and true and blue in the middle. So I'm going to follow the law because that's what I do, right. But how do I help these clients then? Well, I will help them by writing lots of emails and having them go to these meetings and hit record and pumping them up and saying I'm always with you. Remember what would I say? What would you do Like what you know, what would you think would help your kid the most, that sort of thing.

Speaker 2: 2:53:12

So that is one lawsuit just against Boise, pending that tort claim. And then the other one is retaliation, discrimination and, I guess, blacklisting lawsuit, because, for whatever reason, west Ada decided to blacklist me. When I resigned my job. I decided oh well, I love teaching, I want to teach in some capacity, but I can't do that and run an agency and help my new friends, all these brothers and sisters. So I think I'll just substitute teach, right, and I was working on my doctorate, so it'd be great to just kind of have that foot in the classroom. Still, I applied to work for West Ada and I was rejected on November 11th Veterans Day, as it might be and the letter says in three iterations that Boise said something to West Ada, sent them something, whatever it was but West Ada quotes. Boise said something to West Ada, sent them something, whatever it was, but West Ada quotes Boise School District. As, like Boise says, you are unprofessional.

Speaker 1: 2:54:12

Okay.

Speaker 2: 2:54:12

You can't work for us.

Speaker 1: 2:54:14

But you're unprofessional. But they're the ones that paid you 400 grand and brought you on to a council to help overlook the new laws.

Speaker 2: 2:54:22

I pointed that out. To West Ada, yeah, but you're not employable.

Speaker 1: 2:54:27

Referred to by Boise school districts.

Speaker 2: 2:54:32

Right, by West, Ada the other, yeah, this side.

Speaker 1: 2:54:34

Boise school districts told West Ada to not hire you, but they just paid you out because they're wrong. They gave you a seat at the council and then now they're telling West Ada that you're the bad person.

Speaker 2: 2:54:44

So I don't know the source, just the legalities of this, to kind of help fix your words. So I don't get sued.

Speaker 1: 2:54:50

Okay, yeah, yeah, I'm just trying to put the pieces together.

Speaker 2: 2:54:53

I don't know if officially we're ever going to get anybody to admit like somebody from one district called the other person in another district. I don't think I'll be able to prove that. But my personnel records are the only thing by law that can be shared between right. Just like when you have a job referral, your new job can ask your old job like, hey, how long did this person work for? Because you're only allowed to tell the dates of hire and separation and personnel issues if there was anything discipline-wise right. My record is clean. I left Boise. Part of that settlement was that whatever trash they put in my personnel records about how I supposedly did whatever to whoever, those were all lies to begin with. So you're going to clean that up and my personnel record needs to be clean. I have logged in weekly to see my personnel records because I can still, because you can't like exclude somebody from being able to access their own medical records for instance, and I have copies of everything.

Speaker 2: 2:55:44

It's clean as a whistle. So why would West Ada not hire me as a substitute teacher when I have already substitute taught for them in the year 2022, 2023, and taught as a certified teacher for six years of exemplary and distinguished tenure at Centennial High School? That is really weird. So either Make sense.

Speaker 2: 2:56:10

Really, I think it's both sides. The two districts don't get along very well, as you know, from the whole everyone is welcome thing, which is very fascinating because it paints a very racist path for West Ada and the legislation that has been passed. But you know, it's almost like my opinion is in regards to that quote like everyone is welcome, like apparently everyone is not welcome in West Ada. That's a bummer. They just changed their board policies so the teachers will get in trouble for putting up that poster or even referring to it. It's like a Black Lives Matter all lives matter, this life matters. It's like a black lives matter, all lives matter, this life matters. It's like a faux pas, like Voldemort.

Speaker 1: 2:56:49

We don't say Voldemort, right, and then I don't laugh at that, Cause we just binge watched all the Harry Potter series, Right it's? It's like if you don't say it, it makes it.

Speaker 2: 2:56:57

This, this, it gives it. And then, at the same time, Boise School District picked up the story to try to, you know, oust their opponent on the other side of the tracks, West Ada, and like well, we think everyone is welcome, because that was right after Gavin Snow just killed himself. So they all put on their nice white T-shirts that say everyone is welcome. They took a picture out of Boise School District building. They're like everyone is welcome, dot, dot, dot, including pedophiles, is what it really should say. So it's like you've got like the stuff going on at Eagle High School with the two discrimination and racist lawsuits in West Ada. Right, there's an African-American family and a Latino family that are suing Eagle for racism. Basically.

Speaker 2: 2:57:40

And then West Ada doubles down and says everybody's not welcome this colorful rainbow poster. No, so it's like, okay, that's really putting like a really awesome nail in that coffin. And then on the other side of the tracks you're like no, look, we're better than them, like everyone's welcome here. Pedophiles, too, come on over. Like no wonder parents are freaking out in this community. Everybody's been wanting to move to Boise Idaho to get away from Rona because it's free, you can do all these things here, you can still breathe the air here, right, like there's a lot more freedoms here, for better or for worse. And now they're learning that it's not safe to send their kids to school. They're sending their kids to charter schools. They're sending their kids to private schools if they're lucky kids to school. They're sending their kids to charter schools. They're sending their kids to private schools if they're lucky.

Speaker 2: 2:58:26

The thing about charter schools is fun fact Idahoans listening all the charter schools that you put your children in are not regulated in the state of Idaho. Those teachers are paid substantially less than in a public school. Those teachers are also not regulated the way they would be in a public school. So I have knowledge of a lot of really great charter schools in the city. There's quite a few my friends have their children in. I won't name them because I don't want to defame or be a PR person for anybody, but there's great ones. And then there's ones that like, really, they opened up yesterday because a charter school for people who don't understand, a charter is just a piece of paper that is like the bible or constitution for your company.

Speaker 2: 2:59:09

Yeah, it's a board game. You create it, you write the rules of the game. If you don't write it that way, it doesn't have to be that way. So, bam, you and I could open up a school tomorrow. Let's take out a lime piece of paper. Bam and bolton. Uh, we are k through 12. Bam doesn't know how to be a teacher. He's a Marine. Let's go, he'll be the PE teacher. Bolton will teach all the classes, hoorah.

Speaker 1: 2:59:34

I'm in. I'm in Dodgeball. We're bringing back dodgeball.

Speaker 2: 2:59:38

We don't have any money, so we'll ask for volunteer teachers. Let's do that, okay, and let's get them like at age 19. We really, I mean, once you graduate high school, you can be a teacher. What the heck? Let's do it. Let's hire 19-year-old unqualified, no bachelor's degree of any kind. Let's hire those people. If that's our charter, that's our charter.

Speaker 1: 2:59:56

Okay, so charters are no-go.

Speaker 2: 3:00:00

Charters. Whichickety I will say.

Speaker 1: 3:00:02

They're a fly-by-night school.

Speaker 2: 3:00:04

Correct, and some of them are really great.

Speaker 1: 3:00:08

There are some in Boise. There are some that have been established for a very long time, very long time. They are very reputable. They have incredible teachers, yes, but they fall under the umbrella of a charter which they're not all created equal Right and some states have a charter school overseer or committee.

Speaker 2: 3:00:22

Yeah, some states have a charter school overseer or committee. Yeah, fun fact, the gentleman that was just put in charge of the charter schools in the spring of this year, 2025, you can look this up.

Speaker 1: 3:00:33

For Boise.

Speaker 2: 3:00:36

No, for the state of Idaho. He was appointed by some top government official I'm not sure which person in the State Department, or maybe in the you know gubernatorial area whatever that area way above me, right, he was appointed to that position. Then it was found out that he had done some bad things in his past to kids.

Speaker 2: 3:00:55

I don't know Two kids, two kids, yes, whether it was hitting them, doing something wrong or whatever it was. If you look it up, the verbiage is vague enough in the media that you're like, oh, that's fishy. And I reported that and there was media coverage a little bit. There were some parents really upset. There was another radio individual, nate Shellman, that carried it on his news radio station and there was a lot of. I caused a ruckus so I spread the word. I told all the politicians that might listen to me and I don't think I did this alone, absolutely not Again. I'm just a math teacher, but a voice matters and a megaphone is much louder. So whatever I did, whatever everybody did together on that, he was dethroned after being in that appointed position for like a week, okay, good.

Speaker 2: 3:01:45

So that's awesome. That means voices matter.

Speaker 1: 3:01:47

The fact that you're putting anybody in any position that has to do with education, kids, kids. We're just going to umbrella kids and they're not doing background checks.

Speaker 2: 3:01:58

So a background check is tricky because a lot of the perpetrators that get passed around just like the Catholic Church that term pass the trash. Okay, you can do a background check, but if I was that great of a psychopath or a sociopath I was never caught. So what happens is, if I'm in cahoots with the people that are like my bosses, they're not going to take action against me. They're going to nudge me and be like hey, you want to take the oath and take your own life? There's option number one. Uh, you want to just quit and go to another school district? We'll pass you along to transfer you in a problem.

Speaker 2: 3:02:33

Like why don't you go to Burley? Or why don't you go to Emmett? Why don't you go to CUNA? Well, they'll forget about you. And it's like okay, that person's under the radar for a while.

Speaker 2: 3:02:41

Right. So that person is going to end up in those other smaller school districts which make those other smaller school districts look terrible, which is awful. Yep, because like the investigative work that I've done, again, just the internet. If you go to the Idaho State Department of Education website, do a little clicking around you got to dig a little bit but somewhere there is a link that says teacher certification, look up, click on that link, scroll down and there's a line that's hot linked, so it's like hidden after you click on the big button and it says like search, like look up tool or whatever, and you can type in my name, loretta Bolton, l-a-u-r-e-t-t-a-b-o-u-l-t-o-n, and you will see all the places I've worked. You will see I was at Centennial. You'll see that I was a certified sub. You'll see that I was at Bora. You'll see that I was at Timberline and you'll see I am still certified.

Speaker 2: 3:03:33

You put up Gavin Snow in there. He was a paraprofessional, he didn't need a certification, ruh-roh. You put in Kyle Dennis, it's not going to say his certification is revoked. You put in Bob Clark, it'll say he resigned his certification because he was forced to. When you look up Chris Ryan, I'm not really sure he has an administrative one I don't know what his status is, but a lot of these perpetrators, it's not like it ends up on there. It doesn't say like, oh, we took away the certification because he's a rapist.

Speaker 1: 3:04:02

Yeah.

Speaker 2: 3:04:05

Right and fingerprint. Took away the certification because he's a rapist. Yeah, right and fingerprinting is only if you actually end up in jail and like charges are pressed right so like you can fingerprint somebody and then they can go do something wrong. It's not like they're constantly re-fingerprinting us.

Speaker 1: 3:04:17

That would be very expensive this might catch me some some flack, but I have very strong positions on men and women and what their roles are roles, yes.

Speaker 1: 3:04:34

And I'm just going to, I'll lead into this. This is my how. I can not justify this, but this is my how my mind works. Men and women are built so different, which makes each one of us incredibly amazing. I personally don't think a woman should be a cop on the streets dealing with men the size of me. Correct, that is a man's job. Now, as a woman, I think she's going to make a better detective than a man, because y'all's minds can just. You're thinking of things completely different, Especially, let's say, for instance, a woman is raped. You're going to know what questions to ask on a personal level, Me as a man interviewing the same exact person. I'm not digging into the psyche levels that a woman's going to.

Speaker 2: 3:05:28

The emotional.

Speaker 1: 3:05:30

Opposite side of that. I don't think men should be nannies, I don't think men should be teachers in personal, private scenarios with young children, because I don't know the statistics, I don't know the stats, but I'm willing and safely say that the majority of these sex offenders are men. I know there's women out there that do this and there are predators are not safe, but it seems like everything we're talking about is these men that are involved in these classrooms and they have and I know there are incredible male teachers I know this that make an impact in their community, that children trust, that parents trust. I get it. It's just there's certain positions that, to me and how my mind works, I would have more trust with women running the establishment than men that for some reason are into these young children and the boys and everything that also goes on. And this might sound super ignorant. This is just my. It's like how, and I know we can never fix it because they're like I said, I I also get that. There are great teachers, male teachers out there, but it's just there's certain roles that I don't feel men should be in along with women. This is physical, dangerous situations. Let a man do it teaching, caring, nurture, nurturing, loving, like everything that you've said about yourself. So it makes it so hard for me when we like, oh, this teacher just got caught making child pornography with these kids that can't even speak or walk and they're extremely handicapped, like why the fuck is he in that position, especially as an 18, 19 year old kid Like we're trusting this and I might I might sound so ignorant to somebody, but that to me it's like these are the situations that we're putting these kids into.

Speaker 2: 3:07:35

Well, if I could play devil's advocate.

Speaker 1: 3:07:37

Would love to. Would love to.

Speaker 2: 3:07:38

So I don't totally agree. Nor do I totally disagree with you because I am very definitive as far as what I consider to be gender roles. My culture is pretty strict on those things, but I've had to adjust to Western culture and the things in my family that I've had to open my mind a little bit. And I do agree that typically perpetrators because of the Y chromosome it carries different genetics right, you have more testosterone in your body than me. Yes, testosterone does things. It's a chemical, yes, and that chemical causes emotional responses. That, unfortunately, the paradox is most Y chromosomes don't understand emotions. So we got that going for us. So it's this double layer of complication. But I don't think it's a good idea to disclude particular genders from roles, perhaps maybe on a case by case, and then even then people won't always agree. But if you could perhaps think about the little girl that's not your daughter, that needs a dad like you.

Speaker 2: 3:08:43

Absolutely that needs a dad like you. Absolutely the single mom, because there's so many more single parent homes these days than ever before in America's history and a hundred percent problem and the word single dad is does just doesn't roll off the tongue right. It's definitely not an anomaly anymore, it's. I have so many great single dad friends that are just like bro. You're amazing.

Speaker 1: 3:09:03

Right Crush in life.

Speaker 2: 3:09:05

So it's great, Like stand up for your kids, so. But there's definitely an issue and I've seen it in all four like quadrants of what I see in my classroom. So you have a child raised by a single mom, you have a child raised by a single dad. You could be a girl raised by a single mom or you could be a boy raised by a single mom. You could be a girl raised by a single dad or a boy raised by a single dad. All four of those people are going to have lots of interesting Freudian issues, a lot of Oedipus and Electra complex type stuff, and those are the most vulnerable population, right? That little girl that needs a daddy is going to find a daddy and she's bad. Things may happen to her.

Speaker 2: 3:09:46

So I don't want to uninvite the good dads of the world that need to be in the classroom. I want to invite them to take over that dad ship rather than say, well, you're a Y clone, You're probably a pedo, Like that's too. I'm not saying you're saying that, right, Cause you have a personal opinion and like, pretend your kids did go to public school. If they had a male teacher at whatever point in their life that you kind of felt funky about it is your right to go ask the administration, say I don't feel comfortable, Is there a way to schedule and just change my child. I mean nothing against the dude, but I would like my kids have a mommy and a daddy. They need another mommy, they don't need another dad. You know whatever and you shouldn't have to explain yourself. You're the parent right.

Speaker 2: 3:10:31

But as where I'm looking at it more from an anthropological standpoint of what children need globally Fathers, we need fathers. We need mothers. We need a million of each for every child. I'm not saying that heterosexual man woman relationship. I'm not saying anything about lesbians. I'm not saying anything about. This is not about politics, religion or sex. This is about what human beings need. We need a network, we need a safety net, and doing it alone is difficult.

Speaker 1: 3:11:00

Back to your original statement or the beginning of this episode. Back to your original statement or the beginning of this episode. The school districts, in the direction that we're going is pulling that personal connection that you're able to do. Now you're left to high fiving now, correct, so how, and they're saying we're all pedophiles.

Speaker 2: 3:11:17

They're making these rules as if we all broke them.

Speaker 1: 3:11:20

Which goes to this thing. It's like okay, if you're going to blanket everybody and everybody's, so why don't we start? Ok, let's see if this makes a difference. And I know this is just hypothetically speaking, and I support dudes that want to be teachers in all these positions, and I'm I'm with you, because if some teacher has that ability to be able to connect with a young woman and she's able to just ask advice or just be heard right which most of the time I feel that's what it comes down to is these young children just need to be heard, I'm all for it. I wouldn't, I wouldn't.

Speaker 2: 3:11:54

For sure. I will support that and I'll die on that hill Cause that's we have a lot of male victims too, though, and they might not be comfortable talking to a woman.

Speaker 2: 3:12:02

They may or may not be comfortable talking to a guy. But let's pretend the guy is very empathetic and emotionally intelligent and he's a cop or he's a teacher or he's a counselor, or he's the uncle or whoever, and he has a story to tell that child, to make that child feel better of his own, whatever happened to him. And that's where you build that relationship network, right. It's just hard because you're not wrong. I think that's why it takes both energies coming together to nurture a new soul.

Speaker 2: 3:12:33

Right, like, there's a new individual, an amazing lady, I hear, in charge of the SVU unit of BPD. She's a female, she's Latina and she has I've heard a lot of really great training on trauma and having to deal with, like you know, law and order type issues. Right, and that's great because I imagine before her there was just like two dudes in a room with a woman who God knows what just happened to her, and they're just, they're trying to be nice, right, like, because I think a lot of men these days have been trained. I mean, it's evolution of man. You don't just go to work and your wife stays home and wears a pretty dress and vacuums. It's not where we are right. So I have all the faith in these male police officers, but if you're a woman and you just got traumatized by somebody that looks like that dude, they don't want to talk to a dude.

Speaker 1: 3:13:25

No, right. That's why I think all these detective partnerships should be a male and a female Right, because it's just our minds are wired different. I don't care what anybody wants to argue. We're wired differently to think differently, right. And that's where women being detectives, I think it's the ultimate job for me.

Speaker 2: 3:13:49

Look at all these women that watch all? My wife she watches a crime show for two minutes did it?

Speaker 1: 3:13:52

friend married, murdered for the life insurance and just lays it all out. I'm like, I'm like what? You don't see that coming? And I'm like, nah, it's the ex-boyfriend, he's jealous. She just nails it right because we're just wired differently. But it's fascinating. That's why I just it's. It's weird, but it's like there's certain roles and positions, but Our brains are wired differently.

Speaker 2: 3:14:04

You were designed to kill deer, which you do well.

Speaker 2: 3:14:07

That's what cavemen do you provide for the family? We're designed to raise the baby, carry the pack of water, walk a mile to the river, do the laundry, clean the house. That's what cave women, brains do. And so we try to fight that because of all the limitations and all the discrimination and the racism and the isms all over the place and we just forget, like we're just humans. It's about intent. You know like, be kind, be respectful. You were a child once, right, regardless of all politics and religion.

Speaker 2: 3:14:37

One thing I think everybody can agree on is you were all born babies, we were all children, and if you were to look back at your child self, I would bet all my whole life and my family on this next statement. We all think that as children, we deserved happy childhoods. I think that my childhood self deserved a happy childhood. I did not deserve the childhood that I had, but it was through no fault of my parents. They did their best, absolutely. I didn't deserve to be hit, beaten, dragged through a divorce, neglected, unwanted. I wasn't spoiled, I didn't get the presents, I didn't get the thing. I didn't deserve any of those things. I think a lot of people have been through a lot of bad things in their childhood and they didn't deserve it. And then maybe 50% had wonderful quote unquote lives where they were so privileged and they got all the things. But is that really better? I don't know. Question mark.

Speaker 1: 3:15:41

Well, you see, a lot of them turn out Right mark. Well, you see how a lot of them turn out. They're entitled and so, yeah, it's correct.

Speaker 2: 3:15:49

Money doesn't make better people Right. It makes people worse Right and poverty can make some of the best humans ever appreciate.

Speaker 2: 3:15:52

Right, like, the Great Depression bred the strongest generation in this country, the most resilient. They didn't like have anxiety over everything, they didn't have FOMO, they didn't ghost each other. They didn't ghost each other. They didn't just like strike each other off of the screen with a swipe of a left, of a right, right. They use their hearts to think with. They weren't just using anonymous things, pull the pin on the grenade, say it on the internet and walk away. That is. There's no integrity in that sort of behavior, right? So it's just, it's difficult because it's the perfect storm right now.

Speaker 2: 3:16:25

All of these things that are happening people don't understand. It has nothing to do with religion and politics. It has to do with you thinking how you would have wanted your childhood to be. And I'm sorry to say, but people that are abused are the ones that become abusers. Hurt people, hurt people, hurt people, hurt people. And so how do you stop that cycle?

Speaker 2: 3:16:47

I was a hurt person. I was molested from age three to five in my own home by a tenant, I think, question mark, I don't know. I don't see his face in my memory, but I do remember having a baby bottle in one hand and his member in my other hand, and I remember that very vividly. Do my parents know? Did they ever know? I don't know. I can't have that conversation with my parents. They're not capable of having those sorts of deep, meaningful, emotional conversations, right?

Speaker 2: 3:17:15

And so I remember that later in college as a latent memory that came up when I was raped in college, and so it all came like avalanching down and like I don't, like we don't need to carry our baggage, you guys, we can unpack it right now, we can unpack it together. And I don't want these children to have bad things that we can prevent, just like you, like you feel compelled to save them from their own demise and the demise of others and the grownups in this world. Right, because we were all children once and we all deserve to be safe. We all deserve to be happy, we all deserve to be wanted. Maybe we weren't planned, but we all deserve to be wanted. And it's sad because most of the parents that aren't providing for their children also weren't provided for.

Speaker 1: 3:18:03

And it's just a cycle. It repeats itself.

Speaker 2: 3:18:05

And the only way to stop that cycle is to build an education system in this country for the public of these citizens and future citizens of this country, to give that safety net so that those children can make the world a better place. Some of the best human beings I ever had the honor to have in my life that are still very much in my life are the refugees that I worked with at Bora. I was there for four years and I had Syrian refugees, people from Latin America. I had refugees from a country that from people without a country, the Karen people, spelled like the name Karen. They're from Burma, they got kicked out and they don't have a country. They're they're, they're people with no citizenship.

Speaker 2: 3:18:46

I had never met Asians that weren't good in school and these Asians were not good at math because they'd never been to school. It was mind-boggling that stereotype. I was like, oh my god, I'm racist against Asians because I think they're all supposed to be good at math. Right, you said it, not me, right? And so you know. As a result, I I picked up on all these languages. I can say I love you in like three dozen languages and I can say hello, and I can count and I can do math because my colleagues that are american and born only of this land and can only speak english.

Speaker 2: 3:19:16

They get these kids in their classroom and they think, oh, that kid is special ed, they're dumb, they don't speak english, they don't know you, don't speak their five languages. Do you speak swahili, kiriwanda and lingala? No, you don't. Do you speak french, spanish and german? No, you don't. Do you speak portuguese and spanish, like this kid from ecuador? No, you don't. So how dare you label somebody just because you're in fact lesser than them? You're just in a privileged american society. You don't even understand, and those kids have been through.

Speaker 1: 3:19:46

Hell.

Speaker 2: 3:19:47

Oh my gosh. Like Schindler's List in the pool of poop, hell Like. And those are the ones that are so strong.

Speaker 1: 3:19:55

And grateful.

Speaker 2: 3:19:56

And so grateful. They're grateful for everything, everything. They smile all day long.

Speaker 1: 3:20:02

They're just happy to be alive.

Speaker 2: 3:20:03

Yes, and none of them are on medication. Shocker, none of them take any antidepressants. No anti-anxiety meds they don't take. They just don't think that way. They're just like well, the past kind of sucked, but America pretty awesome, I get free lunch here.

Speaker 1: 3:20:18

I'm going to just live my life and be happy.

Speaker 2: 3:20:19

I'm just going to live on.

Speaker 1: 3:20:21

Imagine that. And then now we have this generation of the most entitled brats you've just ever have dealt with, and it's all the parents' faults.

Speaker 2: 3:20:29

Yes, and we are parents, and part of something could have been my fault too. I'm not the perfect mom right, we all make mistakes.

Speaker 2: 3:20:37

Right. But we're all immigrants, we're all humans, we were all children. There's our three commonalities. Unless you are Native American, indian, aboriginal to this land, you don't belong here. I don't care what color of skin you are. How dare you say you're here to make whatever, putting up walls or this or that, both political parties. Like you, I'm an immigrant.

Speaker 2: 3:21:02

I don't understand the difference between Democrats and Republicans. I came to this country in 1983. Ronald Reagan was the president and he was okay. I guess I didn't think he was that terrible, but he was a Republican and so in my mind, that's what a Republican is right. And then we had like a few Democrats and I was like, oh, that's what a Democrat. I'm like a little kid going oh, that's what that? That English word means that. Oh, that English word means that right.

Speaker 2: 3:21:25

Like I had to stop using the word lift because we use elevator here. I had to use stop using the word toilet. I had to use the word restroom and bathroom. So I'm learning all these words and it's still stuck in my mind. And now I'm like, okay, nobody is fitting my definition anymore. I didn't know that Merriam's Webster can amend a definition, right? And so we're using these archaic words to pull and divide ourselves. It's all these divisions, politicians voting against each other, everybody's bipartisan. This and everybody's this, and it's the Catholics versus the Jews. It's all a game. It's Game of Thrones. It's totally Game of Thrones.

Speaker 1: 3:22:03

And this is my most frustrating part, and we'll finish on this this is my most frustrating part is because they have us so divided that we're screaming divide and conquer this.

Speaker 1: 3:22:14

We're fighting these people because of this. And I look at these groups left and right and I'm like you are a pawn and they're playing you because if we came together we could overthrow everything and we can get this country on track. And if they released the epstein list, if they actually showed us what was going on, that just shows you right there, even all for all the trumpers, everybody that thinks he's the almighty savior, why? Why? That just shows you right there. He was nominati. And this, if this doesn't open your eyes, because I I vote republican just because of my morals, values, beliefs, christian household, race, I just lean that way doesn't mean I support this mega movement. Right, it's the, it's the extreme of any excites. That's where I'm like okay, I'm out. I consider myself, if I have to vote, that's my political beliefs. Do I support it? It's the lesser of two evil for me, in my opinion at least you're inside the system that can change it.

Speaker 2: 3:23:13

If you don't support your the side you voted for, you have a voice on the inside, so right, like you're not giving up no putting up and so.

Speaker 1: 3:23:22

But like, my thing is like I'm sitting here looking at these, the far right, and I'm like, fucking, this is the stupidest shit I've ever we should all be at zero yes we're being pulled to the spectrums.

Speaker 2: 3:23:32

I think most of us sit in the middle, on one side of the right, or one side of the left, if you will, and it's it's the divide and conquer like somebody's making money textbook divide and conquer somebody's making a lot of money in this chaos.

Speaker 1: 3:23:46

Our politicians.

Speaker 2: 3:23:47

And anybody that's in that 1% group.

Speaker 1: 3:23:50

Yes, and the rest of us are down here like a bunch of idiots Screaming at each other, fighting over children. Pedophilia now is a left and right versus. That just shows you how deep the propaganda goes, how controlling the media is that, instead of us coming together and you could be the most extremist leftist, whatever, you could be the most extremist right wing, whatever the fact that you're fighting over whose political party started pedophilia, that shows, right there, they've got you, they're winning right. When I look at it, I'm like you're a fucking idiot. You're a fucking idiot.

Speaker 2: 3:24:27

I want to help kids well, donald trump flip flop political sides. If everybody wants to forget that, that's really weird but started as a democrat. That's when they all loved him yeah, well, it's just like and nothing against organized sports either, but like people will be rooting for whoever they live in that town of. And then when the player changes teams to a different place, I'm like, okay, that's not loyalty, that's just geography, you guys Right, so you're just, you're rooting for what? I don't quite understand this Democrat. Nobody knows anymore.

Speaker 1: 3:24:58

It's just this game, and this is where my frustration is, because, like people get pulled into it and it's like you know, I'm like I'm where my frustration is because, like people get pulled into it and it's like you know, I'm like I'm not gonna have an argument with you over this topic online because you're falling for it and and this isn't. This is what we're arguing. This is what I look at. I'm like this is what we're arguing about. How about? How about we? We've we come together and focus as a country on the homeless population, the mental disorder, mental health issues, the most medicated country in the world but we're the healthiest.

Speaker 1: 3:25:31

Why don't we focus on our school systems, how all these kids are killing themselves at a cyclic rate and the suicide thoughts and and everything that depression is running through our youth at a just a rampage right now? They're all on pills, they all have disorders, they all have anxiety. There's this huge, huge epidemic going on of our youth right now, but meanwhile we're focusing on throwing rocks at ice agents and we're protesting this and it's like it's a divided concert and it's crazy to me and like I sit back because you know, I I have my political beliefs.

Speaker 1: 3:26:08

And then I start looking and I'm like, wait, I'm voting for this side because you all stand up for the rights and we're going to protect you, but nothing's changing. Oh, we're going to bring in rfk. He's going to run the make america healthy again. Cool, I'm going to support that. Where the fuck are the changes right? Why is there still dye in all of our foods? Why is there pesticide and wax and chemicals on everything? Our meats are injected with hormones and chemicals. They're killing us because none of them I don't care what side anybody is on none of them care. No, they care about their stocks that they're get private trading in. They get the next step of bringing somebody on. You're going to scratch my back. I scratch your back because this is how we run everything at this hunger games, that's what it is. It's a real world hunger games where we're watching this go down, but meanwhile we're fighting in the streets over women's rights, where I'm like I have daughters.

Speaker 2: 3:27:03

They have rights.

Speaker 1: 3:27:05

I have daughters. They have rights. I have daughters, they have right. I support this. But what are we screaming about? What can I do as a man that my daughters can't do? Because I want to stand? If I could ever pick it, protest one thing would be the rights that my daughters get for everything that I have the right to do but I'm like.

Speaker 1: 3:27:19

You fought for those rights but then I'm sorry, I'm like why are what? Are we standing in the city streets screaming about? Because I want to be that dad, I have no problem. Who I would ever offend the friends? I would lose, I would go to die.

Speaker 2: 3:27:32

Your daughters are first.

Speaker 1: 3:27:33

For my daughters to have the rights that I have. But then I'm digging into this and I'm like well, what are we screaming about? What rights, like?

Speaker 2: 3:27:39

I feel like everybody has rights, like you know, but they just find these, these little itty bitty cancer cells, and they just let it grow, that trickle down, right, whether it's maga or blm or whatever or all the things, and it's it's the words that the powers that be rain down on us. It's no different than the genteel, archaic, pre-colonial, like the Vikings and the British and the French and French Revolution and Maria Antoinette and all the depravity where there was no middle class and it was just super poor people and super rich people. We are going in that direction and it's super sad because, like these words don't matter, like the word grooming has become a bad word, right, and like the phrase make America great again, like, um, my fellow americans, I'm an american, I am in fact here to make america great again. I hope you are too.

Speaker 2: 3:28:31

Yeah, we should all be striving to make. If you're a liberal, you're a republican, you're uh uh uh. What's it called a libertarian right where you don't vote and you in, or or any of those things? You still live on this soil, your feet touch this ground, don't you want to make this place good and clean, even within your own bubble that intersects other people's bubbles? But then you take these words and you put them on a hat and then and then you throw feces at each other and now you look at it, the american flag stands for that?

Speaker 1: 3:29:02

no one. But that's you know.

Speaker 2: 3:29:04

And that's when we've gotten to this point where people I see an american flag and I think of a racist that, and it's like and that's sad that symbol we've gotten to this point, right that that symbol has has shrunk and diminished and lost its worth, and but somebody wants all this to happen bam it's all agenda it's some somebody, this is part of somebody's chess game and we're like I might dare say that I've learned how to move a few pieces, but most of us are like all 15 people to one piece, you know, and we're just being driven from.

Speaker 1: 3:29:35

Somewhere somewhere well, I will end it on that, because we're about three and a half hours in. I know it goes quick here, but thank you for the time. This is another wild story and maybe after all your lawsuits are settled here in the next years or two I'd love to have you back on and hear how everything happened. Maybe you get to get back into the school system so you can start making a difference again. I hope, because obviously I've only know you from this quick conversation. But the fact that 300 plus kids are coming out to protest and support you shows your true character of a of an outside parent. That's not in the system. If I was driving by and what the hell are these kids? Do they're protesting a teacher, I'd be like damn, like they want to get rid of them.

Speaker 1: 3:30:25

What's happening? The teacher that he's been, the kids are standing up or against it. Now. So if you took, if you had 300 kids standing against you, that would be. Then people would be like, well, what's wrong with her. But then, very unfortunate of how the Boise school districts are treating the good ones and treating the bad ones are actually promoted. They're the ones that are patted on the back because they fall under the regime and this is.

Speaker 1: 3:30:59

I hope this gets out to the masses. I hope that your voice is spread everywhere and that people, and parents especially, are waking up to the corruption, of what's going on in not just Boise, nationwide, of how horrible these school systems are becoming and have been run for a while. Because this is our institution that is raising the future of our children and I feel it is declining as far as quality and what's going on, and it's because of the top. It's not the teachers, it's not the parents not raising their kids, because if you had quality teachers that cared and genuinely love these kids as their own, it would be impactful on everybody and I feel you did a hell of a job with that until it was ripped from you and it's very unfortunate, but thank you for this conversation and I will always give anybody a platform to be able to tell their story, because things like this need to be heard and the masses need to know what is going on behind closed doors of our public schools.

Speaker 2: 3:32:02

Absolutely. I appreciate the opportunity. I would ask the public to keep a real close eye on the news. There are a few more cases to debut because now that people know they're not alone, there's a lot of students, former students, who have not reached their statute of limitation, thank goodness, who will be making their decision as to what path they want to take with Boise School District. Good, I would be more than happy to come back at any time, because this is going to be a roller coaster of first semester.

Speaker 2: 3:32:34

I have two, three dozen clients, if you will. I am a nonprofit, so I am again. I'm not a lawyer. I am definitely not a police officer. I'm not in the media or anything.

Speaker 2: 3:32:47

I am just the future Dr Laura Bolton, teaching for 23 years, and I know the education system of this country pretty well. I can give you information online schools, charter schools. I can help you sign up for stuff. I can help you research stuff. I can connect you with the police. They are an amazing group of people that I report to, I emailed them, I meet them. I mean, they're way busier than me, so the meetings are, of course, not as often right, I definitely can connect you to some of the top people in the police department. I have a good list of lawyers that are happy to to at least give people you know a consultation just to see where their legal standing is. Nope, because there is such thing as too late right, not just legally, but like how long do you want to suffer, how long do you want your child to suffer? You know how, how long?

Speaker 1: 3:33:38

Because if you're rehashing things years later, it's like here we are again. It's even worse. Get it up, get it going, don't wait Right. Get the voice heard, get the process rolling now so your child can help heal with their life.

Speaker 2: 3:33:52

Right. I mean you don't want your kid to end up with like issues where they won't have health insurance, so they won't have a medical practitioner that can look after them. They won't have a therapist or a counselor for them to trauma dump on. A therapist or a counselor for them to trauma dump on, or they will. But like what good is it talking to a stranger in 20 years if you can help your kid now, I mean, how much medication do you want your kid to go through before they find happiness? 100?

Speaker 1: 3:34:14

I get it well. Thank you for fighting the fight for these children. It means a lot. I hope more teachers get a voice because of you. I hope more students get a voice because of you and parents start making their voices heard, because with the masses comes power, and that's what we need in this country. Again, we need to unite, not left, not right. We need to unite all together to fight good versus evil. That's what it comes down to.

Speaker 2: 3:34:40

I mean it's for all of us, because we were all children.

Speaker 1: 3:34:45

And that's who we need. That's our due diligence as parents is to look out and keep safe.

Speaker 2: 3:34:49

Right and I pray honestly that my colleagues out there all over the country, all over this great state, but most especially at Timberline Bora and all of Boise School District, listen to me and heed my words. You are not being trained properly and told to do the right thing. The minute your little spidey sense crawls up and you have that moral dilemma, just go to the police. I'm working with, hopefully, the Senator Tammy Nichols on that kind of stuff. Again, I barely know the three branches of the government, but thank goodness I have great politicians to kind of help walk me through that. Thank.

Speaker 1: 3:35:32

God, you got.

Speaker 2: 3:35:33

Google. Yeah, you know like we need to have a whistleblowing protection law. We need to have proper protocols in place at the state level that are funneled down to the district level. I know that West Ada has proper protocols in place. I don't know when those were put in, maybe after Boise got in trouble, who knows? But it's good to go now. I've checked on CUNAS. I've checked on Nampa, Caldwell, Burley, East Idaho, Twin Falls, Emmett. I've had a lot of time on my hands so I went on their websites, looked at their board policies, their teacher training, as much as was public, and all the other districts in this state adjacent to us have their ducks in a row.

Speaker 1: 3:36:15

Except for Boise School District.

Speaker 2: 3:36:16

Yes, the oldest and richest district in Idaho Shocker.

Speaker 1: 3:36:20

We'll find out who runs it. Thank you, I appreciate your time and I appreciate you being so open and willing to share everything. Thank you.

Speaker 2: 3:36:30

Thank you, whew. Sorry, I made you sweaty. You can turn the fan back on now yeah, I'm dying. I got sweaty there too.