The Good-Years

Episode 002- Faith & Family...How We Got Here

• Lindsey Goodyear

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This one is all about FAITH- our walks with God, personal encounters, and a few lessons learned along the way.  Our Christian walk has not always been straight and narrow- there have been a few wrong turns, doubts, questions, and confrontation throughout the years (as it likely has been with many of you), but despite all of this, we continue to stumble forward and strive for fellowship with Him daily (though we admittedly don't always get it right!) 

Our relationship with God is intertwined into so many aspects of our life- marriage, parenting, family,  finance, personal growth, friendships, etc... that discussing it an inevitable part of our platform- so expect to hear it referenced openly and frequently. 

Today's episode is just the tip of the iceberg, but we felt it was important to pull back the curtain on our personal stories and experiences with faith to  shed some light on how we got where we are today (and hopefully share some of the wisdom we have learned in the process!) 

Here's to the Good-years,

-Brent & Linds



We are Brent and Lindsey, Goodyear, husband, and wife duo here to share our unfiltered thoughts on marriage, parenting, faith, family, and everything in between. We promised. I ask the hard questions and share perspective as we navigate life in all its unexpected. Curve ball, field glory. So here's to authenticity, here's to growth and here's to embracing the good years.

Brent:

okay guys. So welcome to another episode of the good years. Um, I'm Lindsay. And on bread. Um, and today we're going to talk to you guys. We kind of went back and forth on what our topic was going to be about today. And we finally settled

Lindsey:

on.

Brent:

Faith. Um, because we feel like. Faith is a, or has become.

Lindsey:

Uh, a

Brent:

huge part of. Who we are individually. Um, our marriage, how we parent our children, um, You know how we manage our finances, our life goals. I mean, it just, it, it

Lindsey:

bleeds

Brent:

into so

Lindsey:

many.

Brent:

Different facets of our life. Um,

Lindsey:

really.

Brent:

Only recently gotten there like that too. I mean, that's true. Yeah. We've been all in that's right. That's right. The journey there was quite long and then it escalating really quick. So where we are now. So it was pretty interesting how that works. I know, I feel like, so, I mean, we both, both Brent and I, I think grew up in a. Christian. Homes. Um, I Catholic. Yes. I was raised Methodist. Um, I went to church. Almost every Sunday with my

Lindsey:

mom. Um,

Brent:

And it, so I've always been, you know, I was baptized, it's always been a part of the discussion. You know, faith has always just kind of been in God, has always just been present, you know, and openly talked about. And I feel like you could probably say the same. Yeah about your home. We went, me and my brother both went to a Catholic school. From

Lindsey:

to

Brent:

the west college. So. Um, It's definitely been an integral part of how we were raised for sure. Um, But I do feel like. I guess for me, My relationship. With God.

Lindsey:

Kind

Brent:

of. Went to the next level. I was when I was in college, I was diagnosed with, um, type of cancer called melanoma. Um, And it was a very scary. Uh, obviously a very

Lindsey:

scary moment,

Brent:

um, with a lot of uncertainty and a lot of fear surrounding it. And I think that obviously, you know, when you're, when you're feeling out of control in situations, a lot of times that.

Lindsey:

Um,

Brent:

I guess can stem. Uh, need to. Okay, who do I go to? Who can who's who's in control of the situation that I'm not in control in and it.

Lindsey:

The

Brent:

person I turned to was God and got very, um, you know, I was also. Well, I guess I could probably start it in the fact that, like, I find that the, I found my cancer. Because of God, like I had an, I had a spiritual encounter that. Um, That showed me where it was. I mean, in a, in a situation where I never would have found it on my own. Um, and so. Because of that. You know, God ended up.

Lindsey:

Showing

Brent:

me this cancer. And then. We caught it early enough that it didn't.

Lindsey:

It didn't spread. And

Brent:

didn't require, you know, I didn't require chemotherapy. Um, I didn't require all of these. These extensive treatments that it very easily could have. gotten to very quickly had it not been found. Um, You know, and so I had the experience where. That direct

Lindsey:

impact,

Brent:

obviously. Strengthened my faith by like leaps and bounds. Um, but not everybody has experiences like that. Like I know you've had an experience. But not with like any kind of, you know, health issues, but you've had a direct experience. With God where you. Wow. The first phone that I have a really. Um, but like,

Lindsey:

Pull

Brent:

myself. Okay.

Lindsey:

For

Brent:

short, like with a hundred percent certainty.

Lindsey:

There's something

Brent:

else going on. Yeah, that experience. I'll do for a long time, because if it wasn't for that, For sure. I would have never believed. A logical mind. Would have taken over and there's really nothing logical about the spiritual world at all. That's right. Um, but. Uh, it kept me hanging, like hanging all over and be like, I know what I heard. Right. So for example, um, For me was back in 2008. Um, My grandparents, both of my grandparents. I'd have passed away. A tree had fallen on the house that they were staying in. During hurricane Gustaf, uh, in a kilt, both of them. Oh, and my grandfather and I were like, best friends. We live like. Four houses down from them. So it was like a, it wasn't a.

Lindsey:

I

Brent:

have a really lost somebody close to me. And it was two people, right. So it was, it was a pretty rough experience and all the, I was early in college at the time. And, um, That was in. I think it was September 1st, 2008. If I'm fairly certain. Um, not long after that was teal season of basically kind of like duck season. Um, and that was a passion. My grandfather and I spent many years cultivating together. I mean,

Lindsey:

he's

Brent:

the one who actually showed me how to hold it. Right. And, um, so he had this office. Out in Abbyville.

Lindsey:

Where,

Brent:

um, you would keep a lot of junk. You. You know, he wasn't like the, his office. Wasn't the cleanest place ever. It was a lot of old newspapers, got a carpet. Uh, a flooring business. So there's a lot of carpet samples, floor samples, you know, A bunch of stuff. Jump from years of, um, just hanging on to stuff just in case, you know what I mean? So I'm sure we all have. Um, So I was like, you know what? We need decoys for the Marshall. I'm going to go out to his office. I'm gonna try to see if I can find them

Lindsey:

there. Because they're

Brent:

either there or they're going to be out at our, at our hunch in the more so. I'm walking around a search through this entire. Oh, old lumber yard, right. Which is where the office was. And there was just stuff everywhere. And I looked and looked and

Lindsey:

at least

Brent:

for an hour. And I'm like, but not find what I was looking for. and, um, so I'll just like, kind of. Kind of zoned out, you know, in my head nodding my head, but I guess like, not really, hyper-focused on what I was doing. Like at that point I just decided I'm going to leave. So I'm walking through the yard. About to get to the street. And I just remember, like,

Lindsey:

I just heard

Brent:

like this. I want to say it was like a voice, but I didn't hear it. My years with your mind. When you hear it, you're just like,

Lindsey:

no.

Brent:

Okay. That's different. It's just different and it said. Um, stop. Look left.

Lindsey:

And

Brent:

this all happened within like a split second. It was like stop and it's as if my foot was like mailed to the ground, like. Like it was the most, so convincing that I did exactly what it told me. It said stop. Look left and I looked left. And my eyes are brought to like this very specific point under this jot. Listen to what I'm saying. Giant pile of sheet metal. Whole sheet metal. Right. And it said, stop look left. And whenever I'll solve it. Specific point that said under there. All within like a split second. And it was so convincing. I didn't even take the time to think, like,

Lindsey:

what was

Brent:

that? I was just like, okay. Yeah. Why would I suddenly know this information? Yeah. Like all of a sudden. Anything I saw I'll walk over there and I'll start pulling the sheet metal back. And underneath that sheet metal was like five big bags of decollete. And I remember seeing that and I took a step back and I remember being like,

Lindsey:

What was

Brent:

that? Because it told me something.

Lindsey:

That I could

Brent:

have never known to be true. And. And then I confirmed that it was true. 10 seconds later. So it

Lindsey:

already. You had already

Brent:

moved past it. You had already. I remember, like it was yesterday. I was walking to the street wear. My truck was, and I was leaving the property. And heard that voice now is like, Like, what was that? And I think it's so similar, like not to cut you off, but I think that that, cause people would say like, I think that that is a very similar, it's a similar thing in my situation. And the fact that like, God. That's how I knew it was. God is like, he, it literally was this voice that, like you said, I couldn't hear it audibly, but like, in my head it was like, it was different than like my own, like self-talk. It's not like your normal self-talk that you hear in your head. It was just like a different voice. And it stopped me from a completely different train of thought. It's not something where like, how your mind tends to wander and then you go and it connects to this and you end up down this rabbit hole, but everything connects down that rabbit hole. It's like, you're going along in one direction. And it's almost like just something completely like. Paul's that train of thought and brings it in a totally different direction that you, you logically, if it was your own internal dialogue, wouldn't have done. If that makes sense. No for sure. I know something I

Lindsey:

I

Brent:

find interesting about that experience was that. That experience is the experience that I held on to as I got older and matured and. You know, started being able to really critically think and think well for myself, you know, Um,

Lindsey:

You

Brent:

know, that one experience is what kept me just being like, but they're like, there's something else, but there's something else. That went on for. Uh, what is it's 2024 now.

Lindsey:

So many,

Brent:

and you're looking at a really long time. What is that? Two years. Did you say 2000, 2008? I thought you said 18, so yeah. Don't ask me to do math that quickly. Something like that. It's a long time. There's a lot of time. It's almost like God knew that like you needed, okay, I'm gonna hold. I'm going to literally just plant this. Hold on. I'm a harvest that plant later. That's exactly. That's pretty much what happened. And sometimes I'll like, I'll look a little embarrassed to tell that story because it's not a, um, It's not a, like, life-changing like a lot of people believe, especially like, if you don't believe, or if you, if you never heard God's voice before a lot of people expect this giant life-changing moment. Whenever God speaks to you. Like I was, I was. In the kid of addiction and then suddenly was healed. So stuff like that. And just cause that's powerful, right? But a lot of times God speaks to people in whispers. That's so true. And whatever. And if you learn to hear those whispers. Then you just recognize it really quickly, right? Like for example, Somebody once told me they were like,

Lindsey:

If

Brent:

Lindsay calls you from an unknown number, it doesn't matter what number it is. And she says, Hey, Brent.

Lindsey:

You're going

Brent:

to know that's Lindsey and. I was like, yeah, let me pretty much. And he goes, why is that? It's because, because you spend time with her and you know, her voice. My wife calls me from any number, even if it says unknown number, as she says, Hey, and it's all she has to say. Want to know is her will say, Hey, what's up?

Lindsey:

But

Brent:

the reason I know that is because I spend time with her. So if you want to, if you want to hear God's voice, when

Lindsey:

he speaks to you,

Brent:

you have to spend time with him. So that you can recognize the voice. When you hear, oh, At some wisdom bay. That's so good, you know, reasonable. I will say that is cause I ain't know. They know what it was. My first heard it right.

Lindsey:

But

Brent:

I wasn't, I wasn't going to church. I wasn't, I'll actually like. Angry. Well, no, I wasn't angry at all. Are you angry at God? I wouldn't have to your path, you weren't angry after your parents, your grandparents died. Because she was a very, she's been a very faithful person, her whole life. So. Something like this happens, obviously there's, it's hard to understand. Well, I don't think I was, I don't remember being angry at God. I remember just being like, Um, I just didn't. I didn't understand the value of a relationship with God. You know, like, I,

Lindsey:

I

Brent:

I haven't gotten there yet. You. You know, but, uh, the reason I'm getting back to that is because I was saying that like, sometimes I get embarrassed to tell that story because it's not like this big, powerful story. But a good friend of mine. Um, I'm told. That's already him one time and he goes, man. If you go have some amazing story. I'm like, thanks. So he goes.

Lindsey:

What

Brent:

better way for God to come meet you to change your life. And through that through a passion that you and your grandfather loved.

Lindsey:

They

Brent:

all share it together. You know, it almost chokes me up. But, um, Though she'll know.

Lindsey:

But it's like,

Brent:

it was just a beautiful

Lindsey:

way. To

Brent:

get that perspective. Yeah. Forgot to meet you in a way. With something you love and like in a way that you could understand. and that was like, that was meaningful for you. In a way that meant everything to me. That's meaningful for you. So it was really, it was really. That was, that is. I can honestly say that is not one, that one. Aha moment. That kept me.

Lindsey:

Um,

Brent:

just curious enough to not fully turn away and like, Just curious enough to always be like, no matter what happened be like, but there's something. Whatever you want to call it right. At this point, if, if you don't have a big spiritual walk with God or anything like that, cause I don't even have the time. I just always knew there's just, there's something going on that I

Lindsey:

can't see.

Brent:

Because I heard it and it almost was screamed to me in my ear. Like. I'm a year

Lindsey:

But like,

Brent:

in my mind I heard it. Something that I could not have known to be true. It told me something that was true and they confirmed it 10 seconds later. And. That's. It just was, it was, it was not of this world. Right. So that was that big moment for me, that just kind of kept me.

Lindsey:

In it

Brent:

a little bit, right. And then as, as life went on, And I progressed. Into, you know, showing more

Lindsey:

interest

Brent:

in believing in starting to, you know, feel certain things of. Actually the God's speaking to me, it'd be not really knowing it, but then kind of starting to realize it. And then after I got into my faith and like, I'll realize almost like hindsight now. Oh, Oh, yeah, for sure. I was like, you know what? That was, that was, that was the holy stair. That was God, literally speaking to me. They planted a seed.

Lindsey:

And

Brent:

that seed grew for 14 years before he started harvesting. It was crazy. It's so crazy and like the,

Lindsey:

so

Brent:

like for me, So I got diagnosed with cancer. Like God ended up.

Lindsey:

You

Brent:

know, showing me that, putting me through that experience. And there was a few things that

Lindsey:

I

Brent:

learned. During that, and the fact that one, I think that was the first time that. I instead of like, Prior to that. You know, I would pray, but it was almost just like going through the motions of prayer. Right. Like I was like talking at God, like I wasn't, because that

Lindsey:

this

Brent:

is what I'm supposed

Lindsey:

to

Brent:

do as someone that's a Christian. Right. Right. Like intention. No. It was literally just me like, okay, well I'm suppose. Well, there was no, like, it wasn't communication. Like it wasn't like me. talking to God and having a conversation and trying to have like an intimate. Heartfelt. It was just like, okay, well, this is how. Preacher does it at church. So this is how I'm going to pray. And I know I'm supposed to pray as a dutiful Christian. So I'm going to check off this box of graying, if that makes sense. Right. Very surface level, just to say that, okay. I checked off my Christian box for the day. I prayed to God. But when I had this situation where I totally was out of control and it was the first time that when I would pray, because I can remember being. Very scared because. You know when they found it, or I guess when I found it and I found it, which I guess I didn't say before, is that kind of the similar situation I was literally going and going to take a shower to go meet with some friends. Thinking about all the plans for the evening and all of a sudden this voice comes in and. Very much, not my own stops my train of thought. And just says, you need to stop. You need to turn around, look in the mirror and look, look at that. That mole on your back. Which is a very random thing and very specific. And I turned around and there was this very dark. Mold. Um, that didn't look very scary, but it was like, okay, well that's random. And then the voice came back and said, you need to go get it removed. You need to get it checked. Um, and then obviously come to find out they, they ended up biopsying it, it came back positive for melanoma and melanoma. For those that aren't aware of. Different types of skin cancers. Melanoma is very aggressive. It can spread very quickly.

Lindsey:

Um,

Brent:

And it isn't. It's a deadly type of skin cancer. Um, and I can remember. You know, the, the dermatologist and the surgeon that I had to go to. To have it surgically taken off and doing lymph node biopsies. I mean, they told me like, you know, this can it. Like

Lindsey:

in terms

Brent:

of. It can be in terms of weeks where like, if this would have been found weeks or month, or even a few months later, my prognosis and diagnosis could have been completely different and how it would have had to be treated. So. That. Even though. God was faithful and showed me this and how to, you know, It was such a blessing that. I was able to catch it so early. I was still obviously very angry and it was the first time that. I got like mad at God, but it was also like in that fear and then that like stripping away of like, I have no control. I have to give it to you. Um,

Lindsey:

I was talking

Brent:

actually to him and like, instead of just add him, if that makes sense, like, I was literally, like, I can remember driving around trying to like calm myself down. Cause that's what I used to do. When I got anxious, I would go drive like kind of in the country roads actually around that'd be Ville. And we just kind of lose myself and.

Lindsey:

Yes.

Brent:

Apparently. I would just drive around and I would get so angry. I'd be like crying and yelling and praying all at the same time in just. Um, but I can remember picturing God sitting next to me and me just like fussing at him. Like, I can't believe you're putting me through this. Why are, why would you do this? Why is, what is the reason behind putting. Me through something like this and my family through something like this. And I can remember asking that question and then fast forward. Like seven years

Lindsey:

later.

Brent:

I got a job.

Lindsey:

Working

Brent:

as a nurse practitioner in an oncology clinic. To treat patients who have cancer. Um, And I've been doing that now for

Lindsey:

probably

Brent:

six. Six or seven years. Um, And I, I mean, that was now, like you said, kind of like in hindsight, I can look back and be like, well, that's. That's one of the reasons I went through that. That I went through this cancer diagnosis and all of that is that. So that now I can serve and help treat. Patients. And not only look at these patients

Lindsey:

from. A clinician

Brent:

standpoint, but also be able to have the perspective of a patient. And an understand. You know, the waiting and the fear of the diagnosis and the fear of the scans and the fear of the, you

Lindsey:

know, what,

Brent:

if it comes back, like to have that personal side of it. Yeah. How many people can. In what you do can truly relate. Right. It's really a gift, right? That's hard as, as hard as that is to see, you know, it's truly a gift for sure, because it separates you from.

Lindsey:

Pretty much

Brent:

anyone else who does what you

Lindsey:

do. You

Brent:

know, I mean, and it's, it's such a Testament, I think, to. A lot of times, and this is a hard part of faith. Is that like, I think a lot of times Nash. I struggle with this now is that I ask God for things. And then my impatience kicks in and I'm like, okay, well, like, God, I asked you for this like last week, like, can I have, can. Yeah,

Lindsey:

let's

Brent:

get going. Like, can I have what I'm asking for now? Like, um, And

Lindsey:

sometimes,

Brent:

sometimes it happens. Sometimes you will pray for something and then it will happen immediately or a week later or a month later. And then sometimes you pray for it and you pray for it and you pray for it. And it. You don't. I

Lindsey:

see

Brent:

the fruit of your prayer. Come to

Lindsey:

like come to

Brent:

fruition for. Yeah, gates. And that

Lindsey:

you don't realize

Brent:

it until, but he's, he's. Heaven's time is different than our time to shore. And we, yeah, we never understand why. But I'm Holly

Lindsey:

saw, I've heard

Brent:

I say something a men's group all the time. I'm like, God's never late. And he always brings them up. Maybe funny all the time for it, because I say it. But it's so true. And he always brings enough. It's so accurate and it's. Do you remember this one? But I think, you know, Those two instances for you. And I have kind of obviously. There's one starting jogging.

Lindsey:

Um,

Brent:

Um,

Lindsey:

The

Brent:

spiritual life that we have now. You know, which is really our marriage is built around at arm. Uh, our parenthood is built around it. Um, share it with our kids. We, we, we now share it with our friends, you know? And it's it's really, um, It's been really great, man. I got to say, I think. How do you pray for years? For me to be the spiritual leader of our house for what, five years before I actually. Probably took, took charge and yeah, I was very, very content. I was, I was the spiritual leader of our home for probably about five or six years. Um, and honestly, like I was. I was content in that role. I wasn't unhappy, you know, it was just something that. You know, I'd come to.

Lindsey:

I

Brent:

come to terms with the fact that okay, like, Like it's, it's my job to, you know, insist on us praying and to, to get us to church and to, to talk about God and to lead this conversations with our children. Like, this is just the role that I've been given. Um, and it wasn't. I mean, I don't feel like, I mean, It wasn't impacting our marriage. Like we were, we were very happy. We were

Lindsey:

very

Brent:

content, you know, um,

Lindsey:

But,

Brent:

you know, it was still this. That's exactly right where I was like, man, like, Uh, just.

Lindsey:

I

Brent:

don't want to bear this, this weight on my own. Like, it's not

Lindsey:

the correct

Brent:

order of things like, God, I mean, You should have been the leader. And so it was something that I prayed for. For a while. And, um, But kept, you know, Kept at it. And then it's like all of a sudden, I think within the last probably. I probably a year and a half now. Um, I've said two years or at least what changed that you say, oh, okay. I'm glad you asked. Um, what changed? So. I think what ended up changing that was that. So Lindsay has started. Salt and light and. You know, she. She had

Lindsey:

certain things

Brent:

put on her heart.

Lindsey:

Um,

Brent:

People that she wanted to reach out to. And. Um, To, um, for mentorship, for mentorship and, and.

Lindsey:

I

Brent:

know I had started having this

Lindsey:

feeling.

Brent:

Um,

Lindsey:

But

Brent:

it wasn't like heavy yet. I just kinda.

Lindsey:

It

Brent:

was just like something. I had this feeling of change that. That basically changes coming. I started feeling like this weird pressure. That I just knew that something was coming. I just didn't know when, when it was coming, where it was coming from and what it was going to look like. No clue. I just, I just remember he and Lindsay would talk and I'd be like, I can just feel it. I'll always say this. I can feel it in my bones that something is coming. I just don't know what it is. Um, Or what it's going to look like, but I was like, I know we're going to recognize it when he gets here. You know, So, um, You know, Lindsay reached out to someone, um, to, for

Lindsey:

mentorship.

Brent:

And. They actually said no at first. They said no, at first, well, they said. They said that they had to think about it, I guess, but that was like a very like, You know, indefinite answer. They think about it and I will get back to you basically was their response. Um,

Lindsey:

but

Brent:

it eventually eventually, well, in the meantime she said, If we think about it, but while I'm thinking about it, I want you, you want to invite you and your husband to this. This marriage group that we host at our home. And so, by the way, we had no relationship with this person. No. Fizzy reaching out. That's right. Got a cold, I kind of cold called her, um, randomly. Which is almost hilarious. Yeah, that's right. So I wait, I went out and searched for this mentorship. Didn't get what I wanted, but got invited to this marriage group. And so Brett and I decided like, oh, like we, always want to work on our marriage. You know, we always feel like we could. You know, strive to be better. So absolutely like let's go be in a room with. That are wiser than us and get. And get good information. Like on to find out where, where. We're the youngest couple in the room. Um, we were surrounded by people that. Some of them. We knew some we didn't, but people that we. You know, very much respect now. Um, and, uh, the couple that actually put it on. At their home. We obviously, you know, tremendously respect. Um, but that was. I would say the start of. Um, For sure me growing spiritually.

Lindsey:

just.

Brent:

being surrounded by. Quality men. And, and women who, who are further ahead in their walk with God, and we were good to kind of see what that looked like. And to see that it was so different than the way. That I was kind of brought up to believe what it looked like, you know? Because this was a nondenominational nondenominational.

Lindsey:

It's a

Brent:

nondenominational. Lee faced. Non-denominational. Based.

Lindsey:

Yeah. Yeah.

Brent:

No, we're going to go with it. Now it was nondenominational based. Um,

Lindsey:

So it was

Brent:

just interesting to see what people who really had a personal relationship with God looked like, like what that looked like. And I remember being like, man, Like, I like that. It makes that makes sense to me. And, and that's something that I want. That I wanted for us. And around that same time I started, I joined a men's group. That a good friend of mine, Brian, uh, also puts on. And I was able to go there and see what again, there was just a men's group and there's. Probably like seven or eight of us. And we meet every Wednesday

Lindsey:

and,

Brent:

um, to just hear people who are much further along years ahead. Uh, with their personal relationship with God that I was. So here all they speak about it, how they speak about what relationship really looks like. Um, what being a man of faith really looks like. And it just. It was just put on my heart. That was just something that I just wanted, you know? It just made so much sense to me, right. And I. I think that that was the beginning of. Of what that. A big change is coming. Pressure was that was on the heart.

Lindsey:

You.

Brent:

Um, I thought the change was like a job change or a career change or. Uh, we're going to hit some kind of big deal and, you know, financially, there's going to be great. But that's what the

Lindsey:

man inside

Brent:

of bread. Yeah. But.

Lindsey:

In order for.

Brent:

Now I'll look back and I'm like, in order for me to be able to steward any of that. I have to be. My relationship with God has to be right. So that he can trust me with any other big changes like that. Right. I got to be mature spiritually before I'm able to steward. Um, anything of big substance on. God's not always going to give you what you want. He's going to give you what you need. Right. Like, I feel like even in this situation, I mean, he's never late. Okay. We're going to, we're going to not have. Now every five minutes are going to be dropping this little like, oh, this is my catch phrase. And even one more time. Um, but I, I do like, I feel like, and I've told people this, like in hindsight, You know, I went into. The catalyst for this change, like with Brent and with our marriage and with our faith was obviously this invitation to go spend. Quality time with. People that were, um, You know, for farther, along in their spiritual journey than we were. Um, and the influence of basically like leveling up our. Our circle of influence, basically. Um, and. I went into that with very, I mean, admittedly like selfish, motives, like I said, like I wanted the mentor, she said, I'm going to have to think about it in the meantime, come to this marriage group. And so in my mind I'm thinking, oh yeah, best way for me to get my mentorship out of this is to say yes to spend more personal time with this person that I want to get. To know better. So that then I have the better. A better chance of her saying yes to mentorship. Right. So went into it with this very kind of like selfish motive of I'm going to get what I want out of this.

Lindsey:

But.

Brent:

And in that. In that process. That's right. God answered. That's right. God ended up answering. A prayer.

Lindsey:

That was

Brent:

like, just like the, this like deep, this is like whisper in my heart. Right? Like just this deep desire in my heart that had been there for years. And God's like, okay, well, we're going to hold off on this mentorship thing because I'm going to fulfill something even bigger for you. Like I'm going to come in and I'm going to actively pursue your husband and I'm going to. I'm going to,

Lindsey:

this

Brent:

is going to be the catalyst that's going to change his life, which then by default will end up changing. Your lives. Um, and it was such a beautiful blessing that I didn't know. Like I tell people all the time, it's like, I didn't know I needed it. And now, like, I can't imagine living without it. And it was just this. Um, Uh, this beautiful gift. That, um, that came out of it. And I ended up coming, you know,

Lindsey:

I ended up.

Brent:

Well, after we were done with a marriage group and, you know, we had finished all that and I ended

Lindsey:

up. You

Brent:

know, telling Brent and telling other people that it, it was, um, I'm like getting emotional. Like I can't, I didn't think that

Lindsey:

Brenda's

Brent:

always been a good husband. And a wonderful father and just such a great partner for me. And I was, I've always been so blessed by him. And like, but having him. Become. A more faithful man and pursue, pursue God. And in.

Lindsey:

Surround

Brent:

himself with men. That make him better and challenge him to be better. Um, has just brought everything to just this whole other level. And it is just been such a gift to like, watch him. Um, head down this road, uh, But the only reason that I was able to do. The only reason any of that happened. Was it because

Lindsey:

you reached

Brent:

out to her. And then you said yes to that marriage group, essentially for us. Like, I remember you asked me about it and I was like, yeah, If you want to. Let's do it. But you were the one who did that. And then

Lindsey:

that whole

Brent:

season of me. Um, pursuing relationship with God. All you did was sit back and wait. Like I was like, you're seasoned, awaiting. So. I would give yourself some credit.

Lindsey:

You know for

Brent:

sure. And the

Lindsey:

fact that

Brent:

God puts you in a season of waiting. And you you'll bake that. Yeah. You know what I mean? And that allowed me to dive. To dive head first into learning what

Lindsey:

relationship

Brent:

spiritually was like. Um,

Lindsey:

what a godly man.

Brent:

Looks like.

Lindsey:

Um,

Brent:

And, um, I don't know. I think it was. You know, you were obedient and that'll be just with rewarded. That's so true. Because I think in marriage, like there's opportunity sometimes where like, I'm you're going to. I don't know how to say, like, I'm going to take the hit for you to move forward. Right? Like, um, Take the hit, like, obviously like.

Lindsey:

No,

Brent:

but like, I guess what I mean is like, I'm going to take a step back. So that you can move forward and leaps and bounds, basically. Like I'm going to, I'm going to fall behind you. I'm going to be supportive. It's not my time to shine. It's your time to shine. Yeah. Um, We compliment, not. That's right. And then there's. There are seasons in life where I'm going to move forward and you're going to just be in the supportive role because it, it was. Essentially, that's where we're at now. Where we're on the one kinda like sitting back and you're the one who's trying to like pursuing those different, different things. That's right. Yeah. I mean, y'all know. It takes. When you, especially when you have kids, like when Brent was going and doing all of these things and going to men's group and trying to go to Bible study and doing this. During the Workday. It's early mornings managing the kids and late nights managing the kids on my own and like me basically.

Lindsey:

Kind of hanging

Brent:

out in the weeds and supporting all of this and keeping things running in the background so that he can say yes to opportunities that are going to make him better. Um, But I feel like, you know, in that process, like in the last year, obviously, like we both because your faith has, has grown and you've

Lindsey:

been. Less

Brent:

you've assumed more of that spiritual leader, role it by default has just like. Snowballed into affecting like our whole family. And it's like, because that's the natural order of how things should be. That's why God, I think.

Lindsey:

Demands

Brent:

that the man that the husband be the spiritual leader, because his influence will influence. You know, the wife and the children and all of that. So. I feel like by you doing that as a whole, our family has kind of just taken this big shift into. Diving deeper into our faith. We've been. I mean and look like we're, we're not perfect at it. Like we're still. We're still, um, tele friends and everything. You got to remember guys, I'm a spiritual baby. I was like, I'm sick. I'm such a. So I'll bring things like questions to them of things that just don't make sense. Like one. Something that I'm curious about. But I just don't understand yet is the speaking in tongues thing. It just doesn't make sense to me, but it's just because I don't understand. It's as easy as. Like the concept is as simple as me trying to explain to somebody how God has spoken to me. Right. And it's obvious that he did. And they're like, I just don't understand because I've never heard it. You know, if somebody else had never heard it, you can't, I can't explain to them what it sounds like, but it's just so unique. You just.

Lindsey:

You just, you,

Brent:

whenever it happens. You understand it. Yeah. And that's kind of like where I'm at with the speaking and sounds thing. So, you know, we talk about that sometimes about what it is. And how it works and it's just something. Again, I'm just spiritually. I would say I'm working on. Uh, maturing it and trying to understand it better. Um, but I do tell my friends, I'm like, I'm just a spiritual baby guys. I'll just be patient with me. Part of it too. Is that like, A lot of there's a lot of like taboo around.

Lindsey:

The

Brent:

church

Lindsey:

around.

Brent:

Um, things like speaking in tongues around like the authenticity behind it. Like I know like.

Lindsey:

We

Brent:

can say, I mean, I know that when I first brought you to the church that we currently go to. There's like a rumor around town that it's this like, quote unquote snake, right. Church. Right. And where.

Lindsey:

The snake bites church.

Brent:

And I think it's just a church where there's a church. I think it's in Texas. They allow themselves to get bit by snakes and then they pray to God to heal them. Um, and just for clarity, one of the pastors, a couple. Honestly, like six months ago. Di cause he got bitten the neck. When he decided not to. When he was no longer with us. It's just that you see you, you. You hear things like that. You see things

Lindsey:

on, you know, on

Brent:

social media and on YouTube of like people like. You know, Like obviously like hilariously kind of,

Lindsey:

it's

Brent:

obvious that it's a, it's a facade and they're doing it for.

Lindsey:

for. For

Brent:

likes on social media or they're doing it Attention or to bring money in or whatever, but for like, not for crooked, you know, means as opposed to like something that's like truly spiritually. Um, Like ordained, right? Yeah. And I think that a big part of that. And I know that you again are, I think you're, was it Brian that talked to you and it was, you were having a hard time with like the whole. The, um, with you're in your early and just like spiritual journey as you were like trying to, you know, release control and like understand God, it's like you weren't having connection to a church. Yeah. I was

Lindsey:

having a hard

Brent:

time submitting, right. Because. Because to be a faithful man. I mean, it takes. Plead submission. To God. Right. So talk about like what he said about like, So I had. Yeah, I have to add two influences that put me over the edge, right? Like, unless they put me over the edge. The edge for me was driving home from men's group. Screaming in my truck saying fine. I'll stop fighting you. I'll giving that is. That is word for word. What I was saying, driving home from Youngsville one night, uh, saying that I'll give in. I'll stop fighting you finally, but

Lindsey:

we'll put

Brent:

me something that I was having a hard time. Does that the church that we, that we go to that. Obviously we really, really like it's our Savior's church. We really, really like our Savior's church now.

Lindsey:

Um,

Brent:

but something else On a hard time with his AdMob. My background is sales, right. It's what I've done my whole life. So I'll recognize. Certain language. Whenever I hear it. Right. And I have a hard time with what's something that was new to me called the Alta call. Right.

Lindsey:

Which is basically

Brent:

like at. at. the end of every service. um, They would say. You know, And, you know, not, not quite like it's way more elegantly, right. Basically looking at this. If this, um, This serves you right. And you want to give your life to Christ. You know, we want you to raise your hand, right? If people would raise their hand. And then that's the process of getting them tied into the church. Right. And at first I just didn't like it, it was. It turned me off so much. Just because I felt it was like, For salvation. Yeah, it was

Lindsey:

kind

Brent:

of sales.

Lindsey:

It was

Brent:

Kinda like a pitch, you know, and I just recognized that her like really quickly. And it just wasn't, it just didn't seem authentic. I mean, I remember talking to a friend of mine about. And he said, well, you know, Brent, They have to do. And I'm like, oh, I don't understand why. And he said, He's like rent. Some people are starving for.

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