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Ep #162: Hanna Bier: How to Stop Worrying About Money

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Struggling with money despite doing the right things? Hanna Bier explains how past experiences and family dynamics shape your financial reality and shares a powerful exercise to break free from money trauma for good. Watch now and start your healing journey to financial success!


What if your financial struggles have nothing to do with how hard you work or how much you earn? Hanna Bier, money coach and energy healer, reveals how deep-seated family patterns and emotional wounds shape your financial reality—often without you even realizing it. In this episode of the Business Growth Architect Show, she breaks down the hidden reasons why money can feel stressful, unpredictable, or out of reach, no matter how much effort you put in.


Let’s change those patterns. You don’t have to stay stuck in the same cycle. Hanna shares a simple yet life-changing exercise designed to help you identify and release the subconscious blocks holding you back. Whether you’ve been struggling with inconsistent income, fear around money, or feeling like you never have enough, this episode will give you the clarity and tools to create a better financial reality.


If you’re ready to shift your money mindset and start thriving, take the next step with Hanna’s expert guidance. Visit hannabier.com to explore her coaching programs, book a strategy call, or check out her best-selling program, Money Bliss—designed to help you break free from financial stress and create lasting abundance.

💬 What resonated most with you in this episode? Share your thoughts in the comments below, and don’t forget to subscribe and share this with someone who needs it. Your next financial breakthrough starts here!


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Hanna Bier:

Hi. This is Hanna Bier, author of "Wealth From Within" and money coach at"Money Bliss." And on my episode of the Business Growth Architect Show, I'm going to share with you how you and your family become wildly successful and abundant with money through a very special exercise. I'm going to be leading you through live on the show so you can instantly shift your finances for the rest of your life.

BEATE CHELETTE:

And hello, fabulous person! Beate Chelette here. I am the host of the Business Growth Architect Show, and I want to welcome you to today's episode where we discuss how to navigate strategy and spirituality to achieve time and financial freedom. Truly successful people have learned how to master both a clear intention and a strategy to execute that in a spiritual practice that will help them to stay in alignment and on purpose. Please enjoy the show and listen to what our guest today has to say about this very topic. Welcome back. Beate here from The Growth Architect and I have an interesting topic today. I'm talking to Hanna Bier around dynamics, around money as it involves our family dynamics. And how many times have we heard the things that our parents say, Money doesn't grow in trees? Or who do you think you are to deserve that? And so we're going to dive in today around not just these old things that have been said to you and how to erase them, but also around, how do you even understand where your money mindset come from, and what can you do about it? Hannah, I'm excited to have you on the show. Thank you so much for being here.

Hanna Bier:

I'm so excited. I've been looking forward to this all day. Excellent,

BEATE CHELETTE:

Hanna, for somebody who's not familiar with your work or with what you do, will you tell them who you are and what problem do you solve for your clients?

Hanna Bier:

Yes, I'm a money coach and energy healer. I help ambitious women release their resistance to receiving money, to making really a really great income, being really profitable in their creative businesses. I'm also an author. I wrote a book called "Wealth From Within." And when I'm not working my variety of magic, I'm baking today. It was banana bread muffins, and I'm spending time with my young daughter,

BEATE CHELETTE:

excellent. I did have your book until it burned, so I do not have it anymore. My entire business, business book collection in my office is everything's gone. Let's talk about, what does a money coach do? So you said you help people to understand their mindset around money. We've talked about money mindset before, but you were very specific about how this surrounds families. Give us a framework that we can get our head around what that means. Yeah,

Hanna Bier:

before I was a money coach, my specialty was emotional healing, trauma resolution, especially around our family of origin, many of my clients came to me who had been who had done decades worth of therapy. Many of my clients were therapists and mental health professionals themselves, and it still felt like they were walking around with this really dark cloud. So before I moved into money coaching, that was everything that I did all day long, and as a side effect of the work that we were doing, my fans heard having all of these amazing money miracles show up, where suddenly they felt really confident. They felt like they could move forward in their businesses. They felt like it was really easy for them to be seen. Money showed up out of nowhere. Insurance has started paying. Clients started signing up again. The spouse got a promotion. The parents finally started being more organized with their finances. And so that's how I started shifting into money coaching, because so many of my clients request it to really work on the money piece. What makes my work different is that I'm a Family Constellation therapist, so I really take your family of origin into consideration. All of us know that our biggest issues come from our family of origin, but most of us don't know how to work with that. So we try to meditate away our confidence issues, or we try to read all the all the financial planners, and we try to invest in and, you know, send out resumes. We seemingly do all the great things. And yet for many of us, it still feels like money is this elusive, terrifying, really confusing topic that we can't ever really figure out. And so in my own relationship with money, until I started to understand how my family history impacted my finances, and felt just as confused. And then, through bringing the family piece in, I started to connect some dots, and I was able to make some forward progress. I

BEATE CHELETTE:

found this absolutely fascinating, so let's talk about family dynamics in in a previous show, I had shared that my earliest money memory was getting caught stealing 25 cent out of my mother's wallet because I wanted to buy candy after church, because all the other kids were buying candy after church, and I couldn't because I didn't have allowance, and the result. Of it was two very different responses. My mother, of course, immediately wanted to send me back to church to confess my sins and do penance, and my father simply said, Oh, I guess it's time for allowance, so that you know that they'll learn how to how to manage money. So talk to me sort of how this example relates to family dynamics, or what are some of these aspects of family dynamics around money?

Hanna Bier:

Yeah, one of the core things to understand is that the way that your money flows today directly correlates with how love flowed between you and mom and dad when you were little, or between you and your main caregivers when you were little. So for example, if you were little and it always felt like money, like love was scarce, that you can never eat, you can never get enough love, even though your parents tried their best, and they tried to parent in the best way that they know how, and maybe they had limited capacity, both emotionally or time wise, to really take care of you, if your felt sense at the time was, I can never Get Enough, like I always have this hunger for more. Many of my clients later on also experience the theme in their relationship with money, where they're always wanting, always craving, and they can never fully get there. So it's this feeling of never enough, perpetually never enough. I have some clients who make great money. They make 3040, 50k, a month, and they have nothing left at the end of the day, it's almost like, yeah, it's like, it's like, the money just vanishes, like the math doesn't even make sense. And those clients often come to me and they'll say, Hannah, what is going on? Like, am I cursed? Like, is there a poltergeist? It's just it makes no sense at all. And so the other camp that I work with are people who did receive a lot of love from their parents, but it was very volatile. You know, where sometimes you receive love and guidance and sometimes not, or you had to be the good little girl, good little boy. You had to really behave well in order to receive money. For those clients, later on, it often feels like they either have to perform or retrieve themselves to make money. So it's never really worth it. So money always comes at a significant pain. Or they're on this constant emotional roller coaster. Those clients as well were like, making money is no problem, you know, but I always have these really traumatic, tragic things happening. Or I make a lot, I lose a lot, I make a lot, I lose a lot, and they're on the same camp as the first group of clients, where they don't really have anything at the end of the day. And so from my perspective, what's more important than what your parents said specifically about money, is your perception of how easy it is to receive love in the world, because that shape how you then create money in your life later on. So when you were little, your parents were supposed to be your main source of love and care. As you grow up, pleased at love and care with money. You use money to buy nutritious food. You use money to have a comfortable home. You use money to travel across the country to go to your best friend's wedding, you use money to buy medical things that your insurance doesn't cover. So we use money to love ourselves. And so if we don't have this internal capacity to receive and have and enjoy a lot of money, there will always be this, like longing, this aching inside of us.

BEATE CHELETTE:

I like this a lot that you are putting this in relationship to how much love we have received. Because in my own history, I look at that love was very volatile, because I have a mentally unstable mother and experienced a fair amount of childhood abuse. My father was absent a lot, so when he came, there was a lot of love, but for short periods of time, because he ran away and with my mother, it was just never safe, like I had to be always watchful about this. So no wonder that the money kind of has its own dynamic, like sometimes it goes amazing, and then there is these dry spells. So now you explain it to me like that, I think it makes a lot of sense to say it's almost like whatever thought takes over, or whatever primary emotion takes over, or whatever mental state I might be in, kind of like directs where I am. So for somebody now who's listening to this and says, Hannah, here's the truth. I'm working really hard. I'm doing everything that I'm I can possibly do. I went to school, I got the degree, I did the leap. I'm running my own business, but I'm constantly in this roller coaster. Sometimes it goes well, sometimes it doesn't. What are we going to tell them? Like, how do we tell them to solve this issue of because they're meditating, they're doing the mantras on money. I'm abundant, I am deserving. I love myself. So they're doing all of that, but the money is still not flowing. Where is it buried? The thing that needs to be solved,

Hanna Bier:

yes, but you can think of your you can think of the Family Constellation therapy work as preparing the soil of your abundance garden. So everything that you're growing and building, and all the like seeds you're planting, all the pruning that you're doing and the watering, and everything that you're doing, it is so much work to grow a garden, and you're hardly doing all the right things to grow the garden. But if the soil is nutritious and the soil is really dry and the soil is just not in a good condition, you can work so hard and you will just not get the harvest that you want. And it's frustrating, and it I know we always think it's us, and then we question our intelligence and whether we're really as capable as we are, and did we really deserve all the success that we've had thus far, and should we keep going with everything that we've been working on? But the place that I always recommend we start is we really bring your family of origin into order, and we resolve the biggest dysfunctional dynamics in your family of origin, which really opens up your capacity to receive love and to receive success and to have money like this. Most of us have a really complicated relationship with money, where our body does all sorts of things around money. For me, it was always, anytime that I got money from the ATM, it felt like somebody punched me in the gut, like I just wanted to throw up, or it often felt like there was no point in even planning for the future, because, like, the rut could be pulled out from underneath my feet at any moment, because I felt so unsupported by my family of origin. Once we bring all of those things into order, all the things that you're doing will become a lot more fruitful. You know now, when my clients say, Oh, I'm going to do a subliminal or I'm going to do a meditation, or I'm going to launch new offer. It's all really successful right away, because the soil is nutritious, and so it's like, it's like the elephant hiding in plain sight. You know? It's like the elephant in the room. We're working on everything, but the stuff that truly matters, and that is our family of origin. How

BEATE CHELETTE:

do I do that? So I now know that there's an issue, and so I come to someone like you, so give us like an example, so that we can bring this to life, for someone to say, Okay, if I want to do this, this is what it would look like. Yeah,

Hanna Bier:

we could even do it together. And just so I can show you guys what your family order currently looks like. That's the place that I always start with all clients. And we can bring some order into your family of origin, and then we're gonna see what we can ship with your money. It's very simple. I love

BEATE CHELETTE:

that. Let's do it, yeah. I mean, I literally just lost everything, so I think opening the flow of money back in is a good thing,

Hanna Bier:

amazing. Let's do it. So anybody who's driving you can totally do this with their eyes open, but then go back to the recording at a later time and just re listen to this episode so you can do it properly and take notes. Everybody else, close your eyes.

BEATE CHELETTE:

All right. Let's do it. And everybody not a meditator, all right, we're in it. Let's do it perfect.

Hanna Bier:

And all the people who aren't meditators and a little bit ADHD, you can do this. This is so simple. Just picture a room. There you go, and then picture yourself walk into the room, stand in the center of the room, and then have your biological mom walk into the room and find a place to stand, and your biological dad as well. It's okay if you don't know them. It's okay if they are deceased, it's okay if they're institutionalized or incarcerated. It's okay if you are in no contact with them. It's also okay if you have been adopted, if you've been adopted, also have your adoptive parents walk into the room and find a place to stand.

BEATE CHELETTE:

Okay, all right. So do you want me to share this with you, or are we waiting until you've taken me through the whole exercise?

Hanna Bier:

Let me ask you one more question. Just look at the room, see where everybody's standing, and tell me what the vibe is.

BEATE CHELETTE:

The vibe is. They definitely have nothing to do with each other. My dad is a little bit more warm. My mother is somewhere in an outer corner, facing away, barely visible, out of sight, almost. And my dad's like sitting in this comfy chair with a reading light and a book. And he's very present, very close.

Hanna Bier:

Okay, lovely. And then have your siblings walk into the room as well, only your biological full siblings for now.

BEATE CHELETTE:

Yes, I have a sister and I have a brother, and my sister is like, standing right there with me, my brother. Yeah, I don't even know where my brother is actually. My brother is kind of elusive in in this moment, he He's present, but he's not really there.

Hanna Bier:

Perfect. That's very insightful. You're doing so well, then look around the room and see which part of the room represents the future. And so everybody's following the future

BEATE CHELETTE:

is behind me, actually, interestingly enough, yep, like I'm facing. Into the room and the future is behind me. Lovely.

Hanna Bier:

Okay, great for anybody following along who's like, What do you mean the future? Many people feel that there is an open wall. Many people feel that there is an open space. Many people feel that there is a painting or a window or a door, you know. So for BEATE, it was behind her, she instantly had this knowing of where the future is. And so if you need a little longer that's okay, just look around and just your first instinct of what might be the future, it's just perfectly and then turn around so that you're facing the future. And then if you're really, really, really close to the future, and you can't even really see it, you might want to create some space. So in that case, you can take a couple of steps back and just kind of find the right place, the place where your body starts to relax, where there is this really effortless click, where it just feels right. And then tell me BEATE when you have it.

BEATE CHELETTE:

Yeah. I mean to me, this is the visual that I see is just a very bright, warm light, and it's just glowing. I can't really make out anything. It's just very, just a beautiful, you know, it's in star, conscious of what's behind me now that I turned around, whereas before, the room was kind of dark and gloomy, with the exception of my dad and the chair and my sister next to me. But now, as I turn around, I see this, you know, this, this light and this really inviting, but unknown. It feels very unknowing to me, like I can't make anything out. It's just light. Yeah,

Hanna Bier:

I love it probably symbolizes unlimited possibility.

BEATE CHELETTE:

A lot of unlimited possibilities. It's been just such a such a challenge with losing everything. This is like I've been thinking about, you know, what is the future? And you can't even figure out what the heck the future is, because you don't know what the future is, because your entire past just burned. But let's continue.

Hanna Bier:

Okay, so for everybody following along, just a reminder that we're working with the souls of your family members. So if you've experienced some trauma with family members, again, if anybody is deceased, if there are people who you don't actually really know or don't feel comfortable being in the same room with in real life, that's okay, but working with the purest soul parts of them, the most loving parts of them, the version that they were if, if the trauma hadn't happened to them, if the hard things hadn't happened to them. So okay, so now we're gonna have your mom walk up to you and stand behind your left shoulder, also facing the future, and depending on your relationship and your history with her, you might want to draw a red circle on the ground, a little boundary, so that you can receive the good that your mom can give you. The most important thing is that through your mom, you receive the gift of life, the greatest gift anybody could have given you, in a way you will always bedebted to your mom for it. And we also want you to receive all the good that your mom can give you, all the ways that you are like her. Would like to be like her, all the positive so the boundary allows you to receive all the good and bond with your mom in all the positive ways, and it keeps out all the negatives, so you can just leave that So draw the boundary. Kind of create some more space between you and her, if that feels good. And we're going to do the same with your dad. So your dad is going to walk up, stand behind your right shoulder, draw a boundary so you can receive the good. Leave the rest. Create some space until there is a click, and it feels right. If you have been missing out on one of your parents, where one parent was absent, one parent died really early, if you kind of missed out on some dad love or some mom love, just kind of face them a little more with your back and then lean back a little bit into them and just allow all the love and all the life versus energy that you should have always had flow into you, if you've got any body aches and pains, any serious medical issues that nobody seems to have an answer for, allow light to flow into that part of you and lean back into both parents, allow the soul parts of them, the purest parts of them, the most loving parts of them, the totally safe parts of them, to fill you in with all the positive that they can bring you. Trust at the boundary, keep everything else away and in the field, in Family Constellation therapy, everything always balances out. So any not so wise choices that we make, we always have to kind of clean it up ourselves. So trust that your parents will kind of have to right their wrongs. In their own way. At some point, you don't have to hold grudges. You don't have to bring anything to justice. Your only job is to receive all the good, all the support, all the love, all the life versus energy you always should have had. And then picture behind your parents, rows and rows and rows of ancestors and all their love and all their care for you. And so the job that you have as the younger generation is to do life a little better and a little differently than them. So the way that you're honoring them is by taking excellent care of yourself, by choosing a great career, making great money, keeping keeping an even greater profit, allowing your wealth to grow. All right, you still have to do your sibling almost there, okay, just to fill in, you know this little riddle, all right, so your older sibling gets to be to your left, your younger sibling gets to be to your right, have your older sibling take a slight step forward and your younger sibling a slight step back. If you're the middle child, this means that you're the middle of a diagonal line. If you're the eldest, it means that you're a little bit further away from your parents. If you're the youngest, means that you get to be a little closer, so the eldest get to pave the way, and the youngest get to follow a little bit. And so think about if you're the youngest or if you're the middle. Think about your older siblings and all the good that they can offer you and all the footsteps that you can walk Perfect. All right, so you're in the right order. Now you're in the right role. There's space for you to be you. You don't have to be Mom, you don't have to be Dad, you don't have to carry your entire family. You don't have to fix big family dynamics and patterns that have been going on for generations. Your only job is to be in the right role for you, is to play your role, your role of child, your role of daughter, your role of youngest, oldest middle sibling, and then look ahead into the future and so many you start this visualization facing the Wrong Way, sitting down, lying down, taking care of another family member, and so they kind of have no space to thrive and build anything. But now that you're freely facing the future, you can put things in front of you. You can put your kids in front of you, your career, your project, big life goals in front of you. You can use all the life versus energy you're receiving from your family of origin to really make it happen, to bring it to fruition. It's like the tank of your car is full and you can go and there is nothing in your family. There is nothing for you to do. It's been absolved of any burdens that you've been carrying, and you've got all the support from your family knowing that your the souls of your parents and your family want nothing more than for you to thrive. The best parts of them want you to be happy, want you to be wealthy, and want you to do life better and differently than that. So you've got this full encouragement, and now look into your future and just allow your intuition to tell you what it is to focus on, what it is to build, and then curl your lips into a smile, blink your eyes open. How was that, Beate? Oh,

BEATE CHELETTE:

my God, that was amazing. I loved the idea of creating the boundary and saying, I accept the good and I do not want the craziness and to put things where they belong in the family, you know, as the middle child, but I was always the trailblazer. So I think the getting the the family constellation in a classic model where it should be feels, kind of felt very comforting to me. So, yeah, that was, that was amazing. So the so the strategy here is right? Because we always talk about the spiritual aspect, and we talk about the strategic implementation. And I'm just going to ask the question point blank. So if somebody is having issues with money, it has something to do with that things are not where they should be, in their mental picture, in their dynamic in their energetic vibration. Give me a couple pointers around that on how somebody can use this for business. How do I invite money, prosperity, success, whatever that means for me, into my business using your strategies. Yeah,

Hanna Bier:

so family consultation, therapy really clears our soul path so many. My clients come to me, and they have chosen to go to university to study something in order to subconsciously honor their dad, and then they've chosen to not be confident in order to bond like their mom. And so all this, like all the cobwebs from the family system, muddle the whole picture. So they take actions here that are unfruitful. They're not fruitful. They don't even have a clear enough picture of what they want. And then once we've cleared up the family dynamics, my clients are often really clear where they say, Oh, I just need to sell four of this offer in order to make this money this month. And then I'm gonna, you know, keep 50% of it, and the rest goes toward taxes and expenses and my personal income, and I'm going to invest this money and let it grow. And so once these hidden entanglements are gone, our perfect profits money becomes so obvious, and my clients can easily tell me and implement it right away. And so for the listeners who participated in this, really go back into the visualization and think what is the fastest, most effective, most elegant path to make a lovely, great income and to keep a ton of profit. And so it's the 8020 rule, right? It's probably not the cluttered actions that you've been taking where you don't even really know why you're doing them. It's probably the 20% and have been getting you a lot of money all along. And so my hope is that the family consolation piece will free you up to do the thing that has been proven to be most effective all along,

BEATE CHELETTE:

because so simple, and it's so simple, we've talked about this on the show too. Sometimes people get so caught up in the internet marketing world and the 1000s of customers. Who wants 1000s of customers. I mean, if we really honest about it, focus on the next 10. Focus on the next 20. If you have 20 good clients that are paying you $5,000 a pop, you're going to be in okay shape. You know, to take that then to the next step and the next step, and then you focus on the 20 clients that give you$10,000 and then on the 20 clients that give you $100,000 so we we really want to go the easiest way, not in the most complicated let's do all these crazy things. Let's focus on what we can do today to bring the next client in with the first whatever, couple $1,000 and then where's the next one, just to get the cash flow going. So I love that the simplicity is good. And I like your idea of saying we don't need to go into therapy for years here, we're just putting things where they belong, and we using visualization mindset and also mind control, because talk to me about is it difficult for most people that you work with to let some of these old things go because there's a lot of people, or there are people that sometimes have difficulties releasing things, because it is the story that They're telling themselves. How do you deal with that when it comes to your work and money?

Hanna Bier:

Yeah, I love that Family Constellation therapy works in the morphic field of your family system. So the morphic field is the is like the family soul. It's the energetic field that wraps around the family and connects all members of your family. On a soul level. It's actually well researched in biology. Biologists call so the morphic field is what informs a flock of birds to fly in a V formation, for example, like the birds could fly in any direction they choose to fly in a V formation. And even if a little bird falls out of the nest, the bird still knows how to migrate, like they still know where to go. Butterflies, when they migrate south, they still have a very specific journey that they take. And it's just so amazing how it's wired into a family of animals. And so it's the same with human beings. Family Constellation therapy goes so much deeper than our thoughts go so much cheaper than our subconscious mind. It goes so much deeper than all the messages that we've been hearing, all the noise about money, all the negative imprints, and it rewires us at such a deep level that it's almost like the other stuff becomes really easy to shift up. Or sometime, if you've got a really deep wiring of I always have an overflow of love everywhere I go, all the resources I need. I receive them easily. People are lining up to work with me. People love me. As soon as they connect with me, my clients stay and tell everybody about me, and they sign up over and over. People love giving me money. I love seeing my money grow. I sleep soundly at night. I have so much money always. I'm a great money maker. Regardless of what's going on in the economy, there are always people who are excited to work with me, excellently taken care of in every way. If that is your deepest level, it overrides anything like you don't have to be doing years of mindset work because you're so deeply wired. You know, think about an example of, you know, maybe a kid that you're. Member from school who grew up being really successful, even though they're probably not as intelligent as you are, but maybe also not as much of a hard worker as you are, but they have this really deep wiring of worthiness and deservedness around love, around well, being, around safety, around significance, all those like softer qualities that we're trying to make happen with the use of money. And so imagine you're so deeply wired like that person we could put you in any in any in any business, in any profession, in any situation, you'd be thriving financially. I think sometimes it's so tedious to chip away at the mindset stuff where we could just work on on a much deeper level and get it done much faster.

BEATE CHELETTE:

This is so amazing. Well, Hanna, for somebody who now has listened to this episode and goes, I think this is something that I want to do, and they would like to learn more about your work or your work with you. Where should we send them?

Hanna Bier:

My website is hannabier.com. that's H-A-N-N-A-B-I-E-R.com you can find more about my private coaching options, my best selling program, Money Bliss, you can book a strategy call with me so we can get to know each other, and you can always connect with me on Instagram as well, @hannamoneybliss,

BEATE CHELETTE:

thank you so much, Hanna. It's been amazing to have you on the show. Thank you so much for sharing what you know and giving us an example of what this looks like. Life in action was certainly powerful for me, and I'm sure our audience got lots to think about on maybe it is not as complicated as I thought it is to remove these money obstacles.

Hanna Bier:

It doesn't have to take a long time.

BEATE CHELETTE:

All right. Thank you so much, and with that, we say goodbye until next time I see you later. So appreciate you being here. Thank you so much for listening to the entire episode. Please subscribe to the podcast, give us a five star, review, a comment and share this episode with one more person, so that you can help us help more people. Thank you again, until next time. Goodbye.

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