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Ep #178: Steve Ramona: The Referral Engine: How To Built a 1,800-Referral System in One Year

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Tired networking events and constant pitching yourself without sounding like you selling something? In this episode, Steve Ramona shares the exact method he uses to build authentic, high-value relationships that drive real business growth. Learn how asking the right questions—and listening with intention—can turn strangers into supporters, and conversations into opportunities.


Forget everything you’ve learned about networking. In this episode of The Business Growth Architect Show, I sit down with Founder of the Future Steve Ramona—host of Doing Business with a Servant’s Heart—to talk about something most entrepreneurs are getting completely wrong: how we build relationships in business. Steve has built a thriving podcast and community not through pitching or value propositions, but through presence and intention. He’s not interested in surface level polite conversions—he’s committed to connection.

Steve breaks down his ASLA method, a simple but powerful framework that starts with asking, listening, asking again, and taking aligned action. Show up in service—without hidden agendas—and being willing to build trust before making an ask. That’s why people are constantly referring him, inviting him, and wanting to collaborate with him. It’s not magic but how relationships develop when you treat people like people, not prospects.

Maybe your outreach falls flat, or your efforts don’t feel aligned. Steve reminded me that asking isn’t weakness—it’s an invitation for deeper connection. And giving value without expectation? That’s how we build connections that sustain over time. 

🎧 Tune in now to hear how you can lead with service and why you don’t need more strategy—you need more heart.

📨 To learn more or work with Steve, visit Doing Business with a Servant’s Heart or reach out directly at stever1961@gmail.com. His mentoring sessions and podcast workshops are the real deal.


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Steve Ramona: Website | Linkedin | Instagram | Podcast

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Steve Ramona Anemos Global - The Human SEO:

Hello. This is Steve Ramona. I'm the podcast host of "Doing Business With A Servant's Heart." I'm the managing partner and president of Anemos LLC, and on my episode for the Business Growth Architect Show, I will share, discuss, reveal how to be transformational, not transactional, and how to use the Ask where you're comfortable and able to grow your business, but more importantly, grow the people you work with.

BEATE CHELETTE:

And hello, fabulous person! Beate Chelette, here. I am the host of the Business Growth Architect Show, and I want to welcome you to today's episode where we discuss how to navigate strategy and spirituality to achieve time and financial freedom. Truly successful people have learned how to master both a clear intention and a strategy to execute that in a spiritual practice that will help them to stay in alignment and on purpose. Please enjoy the show and listen to what our guest today has to say about this very topic. Hello and welcome back. This your host, Beate Chelette, and we are here with founder of the future, Steve Ramona, who is a podcast and TV host and managing partner of Anemos. Steve, I really was looking forward to this interview, because you are going to shed light on something that a lot of people talk about, you know, serving and being off service, but you really taken this to an entirely new level, and we'll explain our audience what that means and how to make this work for you. So welcome to the show.

Steve Ramona Anemos Global - The Human SEO:

Thank you for having me. I'm excited to be here. So

BEATE CHELETTE:

for somebody who does not know who you are, Steve, can you tell us what do you do and what problem do you solve for your clients?

Steve Ramona Anemos Global - The Human SEO:

What I saw is how to connect with people. You need people in your business, one person, 100 1000 you need it. You need to deal with people, with vendors. You need to deal with people. If you have a board, you need to deal with people. If you have a sales team on and on and on, how do you deal with it? To grow your business, grow yourself, and grow the people you're working with, or people you're meeting. And that serve at heart is the way I do it, and it's brought me one of the fastest growing podcast over 722 shows as of today. And I get guests every day. I get referrals for guests, people begging to be on my show. Ava is the message doing business with a servant heart. But part of it is, I built such great relationships with people. I deal with people correctly. Bring them value. People want to introduce me left and right, left and right.

BEATE CHELETTE:

Well, and as a matter of fact, I was just going to make you an introduction, like when we talked about three minutes ago before we went on the show. So explain the concept. I think in theory, everybody understands, yeah, yeah, you need people. Network. Build your network. Is your net worth. But what does it actually mean to connect with people? What's your point of view on this,

Steve Ramona Anemos Global - The Human SEO:

the greatest feeling in the world, and here's why I have an absolute principle. You probably bring it up, and I'll bring it up now. It works for everybody. A, S L A, write that down. A, S L A, ask as you meet somebody first time, second time. Ask that question. Shut up and listen. And then when you're done listening and they're done, ask another question, the show up and listen. Is the bridge that people miss out. And if you think of an image that people get is a Zoom Room 1015, people. Some of the rooms are black. Their videos are off. Nothing wrong with that. Maybe they ran to the bathroom. Somebody's at the door. Whatever it may be. Maybe they're they are listening. But those people that left the room for a bit? Are they willing this thing? No, I'm not judging that, but that's what you want to think about. Because every time I see a black I'm I wonder if they're really hearing me. I don't judge. I just wonder. But that's that bridge that we needed, because I could ask you a question, be shut up and say, I asked you a question, how long you been doing business? And you say, Oh, I've been doing it 10 years. I go, why do you work with babies? That doesn't I wasn't listening. If you ask me, I'll be with 10 years. What are your challenges in the last 10 years, if any? Well, I This, this. Okay, so the one of the challenges meeting people. How are you meeting people right now? Where are you getting your potential leads? Oh, there. And as I listen, I build this script. I just thought of this just now, this beautiful script of how I'm learning, taking it in, and how I can help them. Maybe it's an intro, maybe it's a resource, maybe it's a tip, maybe it's a quote I heard, but the key word here is value. Value, value. You should be bringing value to everybody you meet. That's not 100% I'm not 100% but that's my goal. When I jump in, you do the beautiful thing. Before we started this show, you said in yourself, and I felt so comfortable so in line, that's what I do, is center myself. How am I gonna bring value to this person I already. Know. So using the Asli principle and doing that, I can pull stuff out of the air. And here's the cool thing, anybody can do it be anybody, I just take action and do it. So we want to take action and do it. Oh, my God, it's gifts that you're giving and getting every day.

BEATE CHELETTE:

I want to go a little bit deeper into sort of some of the deep thoughts behind this, because I know that I need to give, but I really want to get So are you saying that most people, when they are giving, their pretend giving, and wondering when it's their turn to get is, is that how most of these conversations go?

Steve Ramona Anemos Global - The Human SEO:

Great question, and no, and here's why. And let's get, I love that you're this is such a great question. Be, oh my god, I'm falling in love with you. Don't tell your husband, because that's the key. Is when you bring value to people, I don't care, walk alive any of that, we're human, and you take care of somebody with whatever that is, they're probably going to ask you, how can I support you? I get it happens 95% of the time when I'm on a call. Oh my god, Steve, I had a lady yesterday show me, I mean, beautiful email this morning. That was one of the greatest calls. I greatest calls I've been on. Again. How can I support you? Well, I can't get you that today, but they'll think about it when they meet other people. Go, God, you got to meet Steve. So every time we bring that value of gift, I've never had somebody walk away and tell somebody else, yeah, I met Steven Martin a hole. He is never I did 1800 referral referrals last year, never, because my whole goal and mindset is how I can support you today. How can I support B? Be the best passionate guest, bring information, be willing to help. Never been on your show before, but you start with that premise on everything that you do in person or online, the probabilities are very high that it's gonna be in a good call. It may never be money. It may be just somebody. Hey, I like you. You like me. Let's stay connected to me. That's a win.

BEATE CHELETTE:

What do people get wrong about this? And you know, one of the things that sticks out so number one, the first thing that came to mind when you were just sharing this is the quote, how you do one thing is how you do everything. And I what I'm hearing you say, it's actually the way you do things. That's just the way you do things. It's not an agenda. It's not a trained thing. You decided one day that was what you wanted to do, and that's just the way how you do things. Why do other people not do it like that? Because when I go into LinkedIn, which I did today, and I see it already, the red dot with all the numbers in it of all the InMails I have received, and some even try to do a half half assed attempt at referring to something. Are you still involved in spirituality and strategy? Hey, do you look for five to 10 more clients a month? Here's my link. What is wrong about this, and why does this not work? And why do I have such a I want to say vomit feeling when I when I or resistance already when I see this. What's happening to me psychologically, and what should they do instead?

Steve Ramona Anemos Global - The Human SEO:

Well, I just vomited myself all the time. I love that. It's how we're training these people. I was in a sales course for a year. The guy said, you should sell every call. I'm a 90% race. You jump on a call with me, I will sell you a $10,000 package. And I thought that's what sales was. And I'm like, one God doesn't feel good. It's vomiting. It's icky. So I think a lot of our mentorship is part of it. I think desperation. I need money. I'm broke, COVID. Am I going to go out of business? All these fears, and they're somewhat legitimate, but you're letting the fear control you. And everybody's heard this a million times when I'm sick, you control the fear by just going out and just building relationships. Here's the other thing. People go when I ask, Well, Steve, how do I do it? What do you do? I don't care. How can you do that? Because that's my mindset. Jumped on a call with you. I helped you. I said, Absolutely, be a guy I am. Are we going to transact? Maybe now, if we never do, we're still going to be good friends, because I feel that energy. We've got to be careful, be transformational, not transactional, with people you meet. I can't think of a better phrase do that. What's transformation? It could be, hey, you know what? Here's a million dollars this person will give you to run your bet. You know? To fund your business to and here's a great tip for audience to practice this every time you go into a service, grocery store, restaurant, CVS, whatever, look for a name tag. I did it today when I went to the target. Name was Asia. She's doing things Asia. How you doing today? She pick it back a little bag. Oh, good, great. Hey, thank you for batting Yeah, I'll take it back. Asia, you have an incredible day. Well, thank you, sir.

BEATE CHELETTE:

You know, I do that all the time, and then I found out that a lot of times they are wrong name tags because they have such high turnout. I swear to God, Steve, that's the funniest and most awkward thing, because I did this. And then this guy, like, turns around and he goes, Oh, John, oh yeah, they just gave me this name tag. My name's not actually John. That was the only one that they had for me

Steve Ramona Anemos Global - The Human SEO:

and audience. That story you just told, if you have a service type business where people see you in person. Never, ever, ever do that because you're bringing negativity to your business.

BEATE CHELETTE:

Now going back to another thing, which was one of the biggest thing that stood out when we connected for the first time, you say ask, but you say ask twice, so the second ask is not the same as the first ask. So tell me about that

Steve Ramona Anemos Global - The Human SEO:

questions. You ask a question, and we'll use a scenario again. I like to repeat this so people get this. And here's three questions you can use audience. Make it super simple for you. What do you do? Shut up. Listen, do this. I'm a business coach. I work with people doing six figures, and I'm very excited about mindset, and I love to transform people. And then I'll go, okay, transform in my head. So the next task is, how do you like to transform people? I do this, this two or three questions, and they're so excited, because people want to talk about themselves, people want to be seen. It's the floodgates, and then they'll go buy a link. It happens all the time with me. Well, Steve, I want to learn about you. What do you do? And now the call, the meaning, is so powerful because she, she or he is excited. I'm excited to share with what I do, what I my goals are on my podcast. We're not trying to pitch each other. We're not trying to uncomfortably learn about each other. We're having f, U N, and when you bring value to people, it becomes fun. If you go, Hey, B, 10 years, you transform people. Well, you know what? I'm a business coach. I can help you learn to transform those people better. I have a $10,000.06 month program need to join. I can change your life. I can make a huge difference. Ah, Gong, I don't know this part. I've asked one question, how to use business marriage as personal marriage. Most of the time we meet a woman or a man for the first time, the next day we're not getting married. Or the next question is, what do you do at a first date dinner? Think about this. Go, okay. B So what do you do? I'm an admin in a law office. My next question is, I'd love to marry you. I'm so in love with you. That's the feeling and emotion that happens when you start pitching people, yeah, that's terrible. And vomit. I'm going to use your phrase, you know

BEATE CHELETTE:

what? I also what I call it when it's really bad on LinkedIn, I sometimes actually, and I do say this, I say this is the equivalent of showing up on first date, naked, beautiful, just in case, I was at a dinner on on Sunday night, and I talked to a gentleman, and he said to me, people talk about you all the time. There is, like, literally, very they're very few people in this room that have not been touched by you one way or another. And I'm like, Are you sure you're talking about me? And he says, well, but they do, and I'm like, well, but when I talk to people, I genuinely want to know how they are. I genuinely want to understand where they are at and what their challenges are, because I like people, and it's important to me, when is there any advice you have for people to be more genuine about this? Because I think people sometimes ask these things or go through the motions because they know it's the right thing to do, but they're not quite mentally there. Can we help them with a maybe a couple of reframes in their head that when they get into this, that they go like, Oh my God, no, I have to ask him, like, all these questions. I'm gonna have to listen, and you're gonna be really boring. And I'm only gonna doing the do this because Steve told me to do it.

Steve Ramona Anemos Global - The Human SEO:

Open faith. You gotta have that faith and hope that you're gonna get to know somebody and something's gonna happen. It's fun. Here's a an emotional

BEATE CHELETTE:

you don't ever worry about that that's. Of her on whether,

Steve Ramona Anemos Global - The Human SEO:

yeah, if they they hang up on me. I've had people do that two years ago. Lady goes, Ah, this doesn't work. She was pitching me. I was asking questions. She goes, You know, I'm really tired. It's a Friday afternoon, and quit, disappear. A LinkedIn expert trying to change my LinkedIn right there on the first call. Very happy she did that because I was about ready to do it myself.

BEATE CHELETTE:

I had just a LinkedIn guy on applying to be on my podcast. And he was completely pissed off that I said to him, when I go into these pre calls, I go in on purpose as a virgin. I don't want to have a preconceived notion. I want to hear and let I want to ask and listen. And he got so bent out of shape he hung up on me because I insulted him. Yes, maybe it's a LinkedIn specialist

Steve Ramona Anemos Global - The Human SEO:

you could be, and if something like that happens. Audience, here's a great tip. Here's the phrase you remember. It's changed my life completely. What you think about me is none of my business. Again, what you think about me is none of my business once, I learned that three years ago because I was worried, oh my god, I just pissed somebody. Now it's like, bye, bye, next. That's not a fit. What and people like, well, they say something bad about me. Hey, if you've done good in the world like that, what you just told me your story about how you know you connect people like that. I have the same thing I worry about, because I know I've helped hundreds of people. Have they all lined up? They go, thumbs up, Steve, and there'll be one or two that, no, I don't like Steve. That's fine. I don't need everybody, anybody willing to want to be helped. I don't charge for my coaching, and I still get that he didn't do enough for me. Amazing to me. But again, we're dealing with humans, so this kind of stuff happens. It's

BEATE CHELETTE:

tough. I want you to take my audience and explain a concept to you that I shared also when we talked for the first time. So this principle of giving or leading with a servant's heart wasn't really entirely clear to me until after the Palisades fire, when I lost all my possessions, and then people that I didn't know and people that I knew came together, and without asking, I had been on the receiving end for the first time in my life, and I was shocked, Steve, I did not know that people cared about me so much, and I learned that it's okay to ask. So can you put this in the context of your philosophy? When does this come in, and is this just as much a vital part as the other part? We just talked about the serving Can I ask? Should I ask? And when can I ask?

Steve Ramona Anemos Global - The Human SEO:

Great question, man, great show here. So I met Tony three years ago, two, 50 million a year revenue, big rock star, or how we met again, connecting with people. And he talked about serving I wake up the morning, serving, I serve my competitors or my collaborators, my employees, all that that night, it goes to bed. Who am I going to serve? And I now do a journal how I'm going to serve people. That's my first three priorities that I have to do is how I'm going to serve people. And he says, How do you do it? Because you sound like you're doing you did hundreds of millions of partnerships. You're serving people. What happens when people ask you to help you? And I say, I'm good thinking I gave him a bunch of gifts. This is the change, the change of change my life. Moment he goes, Steve, they're gonna walk away when you say no, consciously, they're not going, what an eight hole. I don't like Steve. Oh my god, they're gonna tell that's not it. It's the subconscious of, well, I just he turned me into a taker. He gave me all these gifts. He didn't give me the opportunity to send him a gift. Once I learned that my business, my life, took off, my network took off. Billionaires are meeting with me because I would go, Hey, I'm looking for land for my renewable energy company. I had 14 referrals landowners. Hey, you got to meet Steve. He's got this cool little company. Because let's go back to the beginning. I built so many relationships with people. Was huge. So I'll tell you even a quicker, better story. So I worked at a health club for 20 years. I met 1000s, probably 10,000 people over 20 years, I'm the director, walking meeting people, building relationships. So we sold in 2000 on 2002 my friend opened a restaurant. I helped him out. Why did an email reach out to all the people I remember from their health club in six months, where the headlines out the door because people like, Hey, you gotta go see Steve. Oh, my God, Steve started a restaurant. Go see Steve. Now if there some didn't answer. Some probably didn't come. So what the other people that came that wanted to be there will be there. And then the restaurant closed. And then I started recycling company in 2006 computers, electronics. I went back to my network in the restaurant, people I met, and the health club I was at six figures in eight months. Six. To eight months in my bank account. Because people, Hey, you looking for recycling? I was getting referrals every day. Hey, when can you go pick up our stuff? Because building that relationship of value, not pitching what we talked about on LinkedIn. He's a good dude. Yeah, I'm gonna help him out. Plus I'm bringing him value too. I'm recycling their product or bringing them good food. So it's a shared transformation. I did it five weeks ago. I needed 25 million for our company. Reached out to 40 people guest on my podcast. 20 people reached out and said, Here, I guess I had 10 referrals within 24 hours. People giving us 25 million, wanting to do that work with us. People never tell me, don't ever ask for something from me. I've never heard that ever. Now maybe they walk away and do that, and that's fine. I probably would never refer them, but nobody's emailed me back, like, why would you ask me? They just don't. I wouldn't. Somebody's been good to me, like you came to me and said, Hey, I need I'll give you a poor example. Colleen bags has been on my podcast. She's a top business coach. I think you know her. Maybe I may have mentioned her, but she didn't reach out and said, Hey, my brother in law needs help. I've got a GoFundMe page, if you have the heart to do it. And I'm paraphrasing, you know, give us some money. Very you know, you didn't have to send 50 bucks, she sent me a beautiful email, oh my god. That said, Hey, we built a relationship. I can do that. I can help you. She said I had so many people reach out just like you at the Palisades, you've built these beautiful relationships that people want to cultivate.

BEATE CHELETTE:

How difficult was it for you to ask hard? What is it about that?

Steve Ramona Anemos Global - The Human SEO:

How are they gonna look at me? What are they gonna think of me? I don't get anything from the ask. Those three things are bollocks. Doesn't matter. Like those 20 people didn't give me money, I still love them. I truly love them. Muck it up. Judge them because they didn't send me, maybe they didn't know anybody how they feel about me again, what you think about me is none of my business. I don't care. I'm a great guy. I want to help people. That's my purpose in life right now changes. I don't think it ever change. And I forgot the first one once I realized I can ask again if somebody comes back very hard on you and very judgmental, they're out of your circle. Just don't communicate with them ever again. What would you tell them to

BEATE CHELETTE:

a founder of the future, somebody who is listening to this and goes like, Man, I know I got to get better at asking, Can we give them some sort of, I mean, other than the just do it. But I do believe that there has to be a frame inside your psyche or in your head on how they can approach that. Otherwise it's awkward,

Steve Ramona Anemos Global - The Human SEO:

mentors, mentors, mentors, mentors. And that could be, I've got, I'm leading, a fantastic book of a guest on my podcast. He took Think and Grow Rich. Have found the secret sauce of success. He talks about once a week. Go out if marketing you need help with marketing. Go find the best podcast in marketing and listen to two or three of the shows. Have them mentor you about marketing. You don't have to meet them in person. You listen to them on your own time. So you don't have to meet people in person, because people like, I'm looking for a mentor, a book, a podcast, a blog, a newsletter. I get three powerful newsletters, one for my health that completely changed my life. Literally fasting. I was diabetic. I'm not diabetic, and more after three months, I'm off all my medicine, life changing because I listened to a mentor, because another mentor of mine said, Hey, read this book. He throw it at me. Say, Hey, I got diagnosed with diabetes. I read it. It's called, by the way, eat, stop, eat. About fasting completely. Okay. I lost 42 pounds in five months. Losing weight. I feel healthy. I've got listen the energy. I sound like a 20 year old. I'm 63 Wow. 63 Wow. But that's where mentorship comes. So don't think you have to meet B as a mentor. Now, B is my mentor, which she is, but I'm also reading, I'm also looking at newsletters. I'm also listening to podcast, whatever that may be, it just adds to it

BEATE CHELETTE:

that's so beautiful. What you say is basically, don't make it so damn difficult for no reason. I mean, these are very simple principles. Talk to people, interact with them as if you're genuinely interested. Or only interact with people when you are genuinely interested in them. Ask them questions, listen and make sure that you also don't upset the people that like you by not asking them for help when they want to help you, and just and just give them an opportunity to contribute to you. The most beautiful part in this was, you know, I have a mentee, a woman who runs a climbing gym and ridiculously smart and successful with a story. Great and a tough upbringing, but brilliant. She was the one that drove after she put her kids to bed for an hour and a half to drop off a bag with a jacket when I got off the plane, because I didn't even have a jacket, and she brought me a copy of my own book, knowing that all my books had burned. And she said, it's a good book. Somebody I care about gave it to me. You should read it. It has really good advice.

Steve Ramona Anemos Global - The Human SEO:

Get goose bumps down. See, that's what you've done. That's a story audience. Listen to that story. You built a beautiful relationship from the heart, genuine, authentic in the times of need, that's what the world's missing. We got times of need, round mental health problems and tariffs and all the crazy stuff that's going on. Let's help each other. Let's serve each other. Let's build relationships with each other. And you made a good point. Don't serve people that don't want to be served. Do you

BEATE CHELETTE:

think that when you get to the next level, that you're gonna have to leave people behind?

Steve Ramona Anemos Global - The Human SEO:

No, I'm getting to that next level, and I'm still meeting people, meeting people that need help, because it's such an emotional rush. I met Fran. I'll shout you know, shall Fran on Saturday, she's in Switzerland. We started asking the questions, learning about each other. I gave her so she's like, You just made my Saturday. I can't believe you did all this. I truly agree. And then, of course, ask, How can I help you? That's what I'm looking for. I might be able to help it. I'm like, not that's okay. That's what I'm looking for. See, that's the other thing. Don't expect anything when you do your ask, if they can't help you, they can't help you, say, that's no problem. Take my referrals and run because the universe is always talking to you. It's always sitting on my shoulder like good job, Steve, you you asked they can't help you. But don't judge. Why can't you help me? Don't you know? You know, again, you're pitching service. Don't ever pitch being a servant hunt, it's got to come natural. And here's a tip that I think you're going to love. We're selling all the time. And I mean, in a good way, we're building relationships. And the time comes, they go, how much is your fee be? And you go, it's 2000 a month minimum six months. So it's 12,000 total. I'll be right now. We're doing remodel this, this and this, I don't have the money. Well, it's an uncomfortable on both ends. They're like, I don't want to say no, but I got you. I can't afford this. You're like, oh, man, I just lost the sale. Just human. But here's what you do, be from a server side to go to the chin level. You go, Hey, Steve, no problem. Let's follow up and sit five, five weeks, we'll jump on a call see where you're at. But by the way, you mentioned something. I got somebody I want to introduce you to that could help you with this problem that you have. I've done it so many times. I've had other entrepreneurs do it so many times they call me, text me, oh my god, that person fell in love with me. 50% of time to come back as clients, because you walk away from that transformational, not leaving it transactional, okay? Steve, not today, but six weeks, I'll get you signed up. No, let me help you, support you even more, because nobody's expecting it. It's a game changer in sales.

BEATE CHELETTE:

Yeah, I like to talk about when people cite money, because I think people are trained to cite money as a reason. Time and money are typically the two big ones. I always say, let's first figure out on whether or not we believe this is the right thing for you to do, and then if you if you feel that this will really help you, we'll make the money work. We'll figure it out, right? We can do payment plans. There we have now this afterpay And whatever karma thing, where you can break it down in 12 payments we can make with the money. We can always make work. We need to figure out first, if you have the commitment, or if this is a price driven decision, because that's not going to work. It has to be an intention or Passion Driven Decision, and then we'll deal with the money. You know, I think you and I are super aligned on that. Oh my

Steve Ramona Anemos Global - The Human SEO:

god yes. And thank you for mentioning that, because, yeah, I didn't put that at the beginning, but I'm glad you did, because, yeah, you're what I'm saying. You don't do that right away, but when time comes to talk about pricing and again, B, you know what you just did? You went to chin level on your serving. I mean, nose level. You went here to here. Because you're like, Steve, that's okay. You know, a little can you do karma? I can do this, this and this. Will that help you? Absolutely. Oh, my God, I'm so excited. That's next level. Yeah, you'd love to have the 10,000 whatever right away. But you're like, I don't care about that. I want to help you. Steve, so with that, let's make it comfortable for you. God so powerful.

BEATE CHELETTE:

It's always about the genuine desire to see people succeed. So for somebody, anything, any, anything that you feel we should tell them in addition to what we told them, or any last words of advice on how to be a server. Heart and be comfortable in asking

Steve Ramona Anemos Global - The Human SEO:

you need to serve yourself first before you can serve others. And the way to do that is get better. 1% every day. Don't go, I'm gonna make a million dollars in three weeks. Some people can't, but most people, it's not get better. 1% tomorrow. Who am I gonna serve? What am I gonna learn? Who am I gonna meet? Maybe you do one, but you got a little bit better tomorrow and a little bit better the next day and a little better next day, or June 10, halfway through the year, say it's 150 business days left. We've now increased 150% by January 1, 2026 think about this audience. Will you have grown personally and professionally?

BEATE CHELETTE:

I love it. And where can we find you? If somebody wants to know more about your podcast or learn about you, where do we send them? Steve,

Steve Ramona Anemos Global - The Human SEO:

you can search "Doing Business With A Servant's Heart." It'll pop up. It's the only podcast out there together. We serve on a 360 TV. You could do that. Or you can email me. Stever1961@gmail.com again. Stever1961@gmail.com I can get you set up on a podcast workshop for host or business mentoring I do every other Monday.

BEATE CHELETTE:

Thank you so much. There's been an amazing, amazing conversation I liked on how you simplified some of this often convoluted, how do I and just like, just talk to people, and it's really not that difficult. So thank you so thank you so much for

Steve Ramona Anemos Global - The Human SEO:

being on the show. You're very welcome. It's been an honor, and that is

BEATE CHELETTE:

it for us, for today. So if you know someone that can benefit from learning how to ask for help, or ask other people how they can be of service, please send them a link to the show if we help one more person, that's one more person, and that person always matters. And with that, I say goodbye. So appreciate you being here. Thank you so much for listening to the entire episode. Please subscribe to the podcast, give us a five star, review, a comment and share this episode with one more person so that you can help us help more people. Thank you again, until next time, bye.

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