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John Rojas Returns to Share How El Glacero is Keeping Drivers Behind the Wheel

Trucking Ray Episode 89

Trucking safety and driver development take center stage as we reconnect with industry expert John Rojas, who returns to That’s Delivered with powerful updates that could reshape how drivers are trained and supported. From FMCSA’s tough stance on English language enforcement to the rise of unqualified training programs, John offers insight, solutions, and a call to action. He introduces “El Glacero,” a new tool aimed at helping Spanish-speaking drivers meet regulatory demands through gamified, voice-enabled learning. This episode dives deep into real problems and practical solutions that affect today’s drivers and tomorrow’s trucking standards.

Key Takeaways:
El Glacero helps Spanish-speaking drivers master trucking terms through flashcards, voice recognition, and crossword games
✅ FMCSA is enforcing English language proficiency rules that could impact many experienced drivers
✅ John’s platform connects users to free adult literacy programs across the country
✅ Over 36,000 self-certified training providers have flooded the space—many skipping up to 30% of required curriculum
✅ FMCSA is ramping up audits on CDL schools; drivers should vet schools thoroughly before enrolling
✅ John’s advice: “It pays to be safe, not to be fast”—safety-first should always be the goal
✅ Fleet owners and new drivers alike need to be aware of training gaps and compliance risks

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Speaker 1:

Hi everyone, welcome back to another episode of that's Delivered. I'm your host, truckin' Ray, and today we're welcoming back another special guest that we had on the show, john Rojas. He helped the podcast get started. We really appreciate his participation, coming on and talking about what he has to offer there for the drivers of all kinds that are looking for a CDL. But there's more to it. John's been doing big things since then. He's been working hard, building his consulting business and developing a driver proficiency tool and continuing to shape the future of trucking through his work at Bumper to Bumper EZCDL School. We're excited to catch up and hear what's been going on and to learn how he's helping drivers navigate the changes of the industry, including the new FMCSA enforcement coming down the road. So we welcome John to the show. John, welcome back. How are you doing, my man?

Speaker 2:

I'm doing fantastic, Ray. Thank you so much for having me again. It's a pleasure.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, it is. I'm glad that I'm able to keep this thing going and helping people learn about what's out there and help them stay abreast as to what's going on in the industry. I mean, there's changes that are happening with the administration. There's quite a few changes that have taken place, but first of all I wanted to see, kind of go in full circle, what's going on with you and how are you doing what's new on your side?

Speaker 2:

Well, again, congratulations on the podcast. You're doing a fantastic job. I've been watching every episode and you're doing fantastic, and thank you for spreading the word out there. Number one, I'm excited to be back on the show. I can't believe it's been that long since we've we've done this in the past, you know, uh, gosh, it's almost a year ago already, so, but uh, no, as far as a full circle goes, uh, the industry is never boring. We always got something going on, right, right.

Speaker 1:

That's awesome, man, and you know there's a lot of changes that have happened lately. Uh, what's one thing that's stayed consistent for you in the industry? Uh, one thing that you know that, uh, people can always rely on.

Speaker 2:

Well, you know, training's always a big uh, a big aspect, or you know, uh, training is always a huge subject as far as making sure that your drivers are well-informed. They are well informed, they're safe out on the roads. And you know, the biggest thing right now is this regulation for the English language proficiency. You know, that rule, that regulation, has been around for a long time. It's not new. I mean, the only new thing about it is is that it's it's to be enforced. Now, many states just kind of you know, we're really very laxed on that and allow drivers to, you know, communicate in their, their, their own language, or you know, they're in Spanish, or whatever the case may be. But now that this regulations and has come into par, drivers are kind of caught in the middle of it. And it's a shame because there's a lot of good drivers out there that just prefer it or are more comfortable with their own language, which I understand. That Me, coming from an education side, as far as the training school goes, we came across that a lot. We've always offered our program in English only, but we received a lot of folks that were predominantly spoke Spanish. So we, we we basically interviewed them and let them know. Hey look, the class is in English. Where are you at? As far as being able to communicate with it? Because you're not. You're not going to be able to just get everything in Spanish. Or as far as the drivers go, it's a. It's unfortunate because they're caught in the middle of it. They could be the best driver out there, but they don't speak English very well, and that's that's misfortunate.

Speaker 2:

So what we've done is, you know, we put together a program that will allow them to practice trucking terms. There's a lot of stuff that's out there that's coming up, popping up with just like signage and just bare minimum stuff to just try to get these folks by on a vehicle inspection. And I'll tell you what we went above and beyond, because we took every trucking term that you could possibly think of you got thousands of terms to where a driver can actually pull up a specific term and learn the English version and Spanish version. And then we made it fun to where it's actually like a game too, to where not only can they just utilize the glossary part, but they can go into the activities and they can either use flashcards they could utilize a crossword puzzle, utilize a crossword puzzle or the fun one is the talk, the talk version to where you actually have to pronounce it and say it correctly in order to get credit and move to the next level. It's very cool, but uh, the way it's designed is, it's it's on the drivers.

Speaker 2:

The driver goes at their own pace. You know, there's no hurry, there's no grading. This is a tool to help them learn that and be familiar, because if they are caught on a roadside inspection, they can't use any aids, they can't use a translator, you can't go. You know you need to memorize this stuff and learn it. Find it very important to make sure that we try to help these folks. So not only do we have Dale Glossero, but we also work with schools, colleges across the country, to where they have programs for adult literacy, to where sometimes they're even free. So if they need help, they let us know what area they're at. We can pretty much put them in contact with someone that can help them. That next step, the trucking terms. Hey, we got that. But when it comes down to actual taking classes for English and stuff, we might be able to help them as far as direct them to the right person or the right program in their area, nice.

Speaker 1:

And what's the name of it? Again, el Glacero, all right.

Speaker 2:

I'll brush up on that for myself. El Glacero it. They can just have it on their device. It's a yearly subscription to where they can get on as they have time and go in and practice those terms that they're most commonly using. So if they are caught they're comfortable speaking those terms.

Speaker 1:

Nice, and that'll make them a better driver and also help the industry as well to keep going with the driver shortage or driver retention, so that's going to definitely be a great tool. I'm glad that you guys took the time yourself to do that. I mean, that's really good. What prompted you guys to do that? Was there a particular situation that happened, or was there something that brought to your attention to say, hey, this is important?

Speaker 2:

and just say, hey, this is important. Well, you know, this was created years ago when a lot of the employers were looking at recruiting Spanish drivers and bringing them on, just because it was just such a huge demand. So we created the El Glacero back then with our Laguia. We have the bumper-to-bumper textbook that's in the Spanish version. So we added the glossary to that to help these folks out. So we took that out of production as far as the handbook goes, just because of the cost of printing them out and that sort of thing. And you know, electronic is the way to go. Now Most folks, most of our users, are utilizing some type of device. So we went ahead and we don't have the handbooks in production anymore.

Speaker 1:

We went ahead and we don't have the handbooks in production anymore, but a Glacero can be purchased online. Now to where they can utilize the learning platform. So where can drivers or fleet owners access this?

Speaker 2:

tool? Is it online or part of the course? Absolutely. You just go to our website. I'll get you that information where you can put that on there, but just easycdl-onlinecom. All right, sweet and man, you're also doing consulting. You're helping people, also inspiring. Start offering this services for drivers and companies to help them with your, your expertise as well, and let's tell us about that too.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, and the consulting side interesting. You know, since I retired from the uh, from the, from the college I uh, I still have a love for the industry. So we talk to a lot of folks, whether it be employers or training providers, public and private. So on the consulting side, we get a lot of calls on compliance.

Speaker 2:

We actually have gone in and helped some schools that thought they were doing it right, to where they got in trouble or they got questioned. So we went in and evaluated their program, gave them some tips and in some cases even revamped their curriculum just to make sure that they're doing everything that FMCSA requires for entry-level driver training, from the theory to the skills portion. You know a lot of schools, I mean, they like to train to pass, you know, to pass the test, and the FMCSA ELDT goes way more above and beyond that. So there's a lot of things that you have to teach and cover besides just passing the CDL exam for their driver's license test. So that's where a lot of folks fall short. So we love getting those calls. We try to get folks on the right path to uh and uh to where they're successful and they're going to be around.

Speaker 1:

Nice. Can you share a success story from your consulting experience that made you feel like you know? This is why I do this.

Speaker 2:

Well, absolutely, I, I, we again, we work with training providers and employers, but just most recently, without saying any names, just client confidentiality, but just without, you know, calling out their name but I had an employer that's, you know, they're pretty, pretty large employer that had their own training program that uh kind of got nicked and they, they had to go in and prove that they were uh teaching all, all requirements for the skills portion. Well, when we went in and dug in they were missing quite a bit. They only were training about 70% of what they're supposed to. So we went in and revamped that for them and got them on track and they were up and going again, made some adjustments to the length of their program, the equipment that they were using, even the instructors that they hire, making sure that they're credentialed. So got them on track and they're happy as can be and doing very well and filling those seats.

Speaker 1:

That's awesome. Yeah, we got to take care of the young ones. We got to take care of the entry drivers so that they can be prepared when they're on the road performing that they're also representing the industry well. So I appreciate you do the work and you do it thorough. I think you do a great job. You're known in the industry very well, so keep up the great work with that. The consulting business I think it's going to be a great asset for a lot of companies that need that help, so I hope they seek that out. Where can they find that as well?

Speaker 2:

Yeah, you can go to our website and reach out to us anytime they can. Even, you know, while my information's on there, they can call the office and we will get back to them, set up a consultation to where we can figure out how we can help and go from there.

Speaker 1:

So, speaking of the FMCSA and compliance, I'm kind of wanted to see if you knew any updated information. Maybe it could help the listeners. Uh, speaking on what changes are upcoming or enforcement policies that drivers can really pay attention to right now, um, what do you see them focusing or changing on and within the next year or two, and how can drivers stay ahead?

Speaker 2:

Haven't seen uh now it's been kind of quiet as far as any kind of new regulations. With the new administration, you know, they kind of challenged uh, uh, not creating so much more regulate, uh, regulations and seeing where they can you know if they're going to implement new ones, what are they going to take out? You know what I'm saying. So there, uh, so that's kind of frozen right now, ray, uh, but right now I can tell you this a lot of, a lot of the things, of the things that we're really concentrating on on the educational side is the entry level driver training training provider registry, to where FMCSA has a plan of action to make sure the training providers that self-certify that they're doing what they're supposed to be doing are actually doing it. So FMCSA has really stepped up to the plate. You know we're members of the Commercial Vehicle Training Association as well as the National Association of Publicly Truck Driving Schools and we are constantly working with FMCSA to try to make sure that that compliance is being held to the standards. You know what I'm saying Basically policing them, auditing these training providers to make sure that they're doing what they're supposed to be doing, because that training provider registry array is ridiculously large.

Speaker 2:

There's over 36,000 training providers on that registry. There's over 36,000 training providers on that registry. Before the ELDT was implemented there was roughly 1,000. So just about anybody can go on there and fill out that application and check a box and say self-certified has implemented some stricter guidelines. As far as reapplying, you know you're supposed to reapply for your program every couple years and in that application to get recertified they ask a lot more questions and there's a lot more checkboxes that you have to click out stating that you're doing what you're supposed to be doing. And then the next plan is actually having auditors on the ground, to where they go out, and they'll actually start looking at these programs making sure that they're doing what they're supposed to be doing. Because it's a big problem. It is a really big problem because you have a lot of folks out there that they're offering guaranteed CDLs, guaranteed in two days. I mean it's not good and those are the kind of folks that don't need to be in our industry.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I mean, you see it all the time on social media videos. They're just horrific videos of accidents that are taking place and, um, education is a huge part of that. So, uh, what, what do you say to drivers out there when they see that type of clickbait?

Speaker 2:

What would you say? You know, ask questions, especially if you're someone looking at getting into the industry. You know, if you see something that's you know too good to be true, it probably is. You know, free training, really cheap training, you know that, that sort of thing that should automatically set off a red flag for you. But ask a lot of questions.

Speaker 2:

My advice is number one hey, ask them if you can come visit their school. You want to look at their equipment. Ask them who they work with. As far as employers go, okay, you ask those three questions right there. That's already going to make them aware that, hey, you're doing your research and you're not an easy buck. So if you ask those three questions, that's going to let you have a better determination.

Speaker 2:

If that's the right school for you, I highly recommend going to a provider that's been around that actually has a solid curriculum that they could show. They should have a student handbook to where you can come in. They'll give you a tour of their facilities and see their equipment. And they should have a student handbook to where you can come in. They'll give you a tour of their facilities and see their equipment and they should have a long list of employers that are just lining up to hire their students. So that would be my recommendation, because the worst thing you could do is, you know, pay someone a cheap fee and be out of that money, and you're going to end up paying that the cost for CDL training somewhere else, just so you can get a decent job.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, we definitely got to keep the standard up, not going down low because it's not helping anybody. They're just, you know, taking the money. So I mean you're pretty involved in Bumper to Bumper Easy CDL School, with the training next generation of drivers through Bumper to Bumper Easy CDL School. What's on the front? New front for Bumper to Bumper Easy CDL, for EZCDL.

Speaker 2:

Well, you know we work with. We work with training providers all over. You know, most of our clients do utilize our system and manage it in-house. It's custom designed for them, so they manage it. The individuals that actually come to us that we, that we help and then we point them in the right direction because we don't do the skills training. So we have partners all over the country to give a referral to the training provider in your area to where you can get the skills portion done. It really just depends on what's best for you.

Speaker 2:

But what are we doing? We're constantly looking at making our training platform better. So we're always, always looking at improving. Some of the new things are just being more engaged, keeping students engaged in the learning environment. That way they're learning and retaining the information. Our program is just not one of those. Hey click here and be done with it in a couple hours. Our program for theory is equivalent to a 40 hour lecture and it's very, very thorough and we'd rather do that than cut corners. We want the drivers, the new entry level guys coming in, to be well informed to where they can go out there and be successful in the industry, because, as you know it, it doesn't take much to go out there and mess up your driving record, and then you're not hireable anymore.

Speaker 1:

Um, have you made any curriculum or program changes recently that, uh, that you're based on seeing it out there in the field, cause I know you get to go and go to a lot of seminars and talk to a lot of different people Uh, what changes have you been able to implement?

Speaker 2:

Uh, not so much. Uh, curriculum changes we we haven't, cause the material really hasn't needed to change much. Uh, I can tell you this on some of the program side, there's some neat stuff that's out there. There's this more engaging, more videos, more illustrations, just more hands-on, instead of just watching a video and then taking a test. We want those folks to be engaged through the whole thing. So we have some new things that we're putting out soon, in the near future, to get to where the students actually work, you know, taking those quiz questions or practice questions throughout the program, to where it's not just hey, turn the video on, watch the video for 15, 40 minutes, whatever video it is, and then they just take a quiz. We're looking at changing that up. So that's some of the things that we're looking at, and then technology as well. So we want to make sure that our stuff's compliant, you know, compatible with all the new stuff coming up. So it's a it's a constant challenge to make sure that you stay ahead of the game.

Speaker 1:

Nice. So yeah, if you can. Just, I think a tip for drivers out there is create a LinkedIn for yourself. Have a professional background that you're able to be a part of, and create your network there and grow. See other professionals in the industry that want to elevate it and do better, even just for health reasons. I think that's also great too, so you can be successful. So any other tips or advice for drivers out there? Starting out, what would you say to them?

Speaker 2:

Well, again, safety is everything. Don't ever, don't ever, get complacent. As far as your vehicle inspection you know that's where a lot of incidents happen to where we're used to our equipment we're like, I don't need to check that today. You know what I mean. So that's usually when you get a brake failure or tire blowout or something like that. Don't be complacent with just your truck. I mean, make sure that you're constantly doing your vehicle inspection, check those air brakes, and if you're working for a smaller company and the equipment is subpar, don't be afraid to speak up.

Speaker 2:

Remember you're the driver of that truck when you start that truck up and you go down the road. That's your responsibility. You're the one that's supposed to make sure that that vehicle's safe before putting it out on our public roadways and I talked to so many drivers to where they're. Just they're insecure about their abilities or they don't want to. You know, cause waves because that truck. They know that it needs to be some repair, but that's the only one available and they have to work. Don't do it, it ain't worth it. All it takes is one accident for you to lose your life, someone else's life or again, your driving record is going to be affected by this, so make sure your vehicles are inspected well and they're well-maintained before you put them out on the road.

Speaker 1:

Nice, great advice Makes me want to go out and do a pre-trip right now. I like that, yeah. So that is important. You get complacent, especially if you're getting in the same truck all the time and then, when something happens, nobody cares that you didn't do it, you're going to pay the cost, even if it's just paperwork in a truck. I've heard of people getting caught up with that too, just not having the proper documentation in the vehicle. We've got to stay alert. We've got to do our job. The public is depending on us, america is depending on us to get the job done right. They pay us to be safe, not to be fast. That's right, I know. And it pays to be safe, not to be fast. That's right. On a balanced area, I know. Thanks again for coming on the show talking about the glossary you would say in.

Speaker 2:

Spanish El glossario.

Speaker 1:

El glossario.

Speaker 2:

El glossario, you got it.

Speaker 1:

I'm trying, man, that's one of my personal goals. A bucket list That'd be something if I can learn Spanish. Man, that's one of my personal goals. A bucket list That'd be something.

Speaker 2:

if I could learn Spanish, man, we'll get you some credentials.

Speaker 1:

You can get in and start practicing, ray, awesome. Well, I really appreciate you doing this, taking the time out to talk to people and help encourage people to do the right thing and also enlighten them. It's all the great things you guys are doing over there at Bumper to Bumper Easy CDL. So whether you're helping the drivers stay compliant, teaching the next generation or just finding better ways to level up in the trucking industry, you're doing a great work and we really appreciate it. So we look for those links. I'll put those in the notes for the listeners, and that's pretty much all we have for today, so enjoy that weather over there.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, all we have for today, so enjoy that weather over there. Yeah, thanks a lot, ray. I appreciate it. I wish you well. You be safe out there as well. Mr.

Speaker 1:

Try to stay cool. Man, looks like the weather is going to keep you going there. That Texas don't play.

Speaker 2:

The heat index is only 109 today, so it's not that bad All right.

Speaker 1:

Well, thank you so much. And listeners out there stay All right, well, thank you so much. And listeners out there stay safe out on the road, keep rolling, moving forward, and we'll catch you next time on another episode of that's Delivered.

Speaker 2:

Thank you, take care.

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