Lens of Leadership: A Ted Lasso Rewatch Podcast

Special: 2024 Diamond Dog Draft

• Marnie Stockman and Nick Coniglio • Season 1 • Episode 6

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Wouldn’t it be amazing if the Ted Lasso characters made up your personal advisory board? Join Marnie Stockman and Nick Coniglio as they release this bonus episode of Lens of Leadership. They are strategizing the perfect lineup of characters to form their “Diamond Dogs". They talk through how to ensure they surround themselves with a mix of mentors, connectors, wellness coaches, and more. It's a battle of wits and budget as they go head-to-head with ChatGPT, all while contemplating the profound question: if we truly are the average of the five people closest to us, who would make the cut?


This isn't your average team assembly; it's a masterclass in balancing qualities like optimism, leadership, PR savvy, and objectivity within a tight budget. They weigh the merits of picking Ted Lasso as a team lynchpin against the potential of characters like Keeley Jones and Trent Crimm. The episode morphs into an engaging discussion, teeming with fandom and humor, as they select team members who not only round out their Diamond Dogs but would also make Ted proud. From Dani Rojas' infectious enthusiasm to May's business acumen, each choice is deliberated with the aim of crafting a diverse and dynamic support system.


At the end of the draft, they analyze how the unique characteristics of their board of "Ted Lasso" personalities would serve in the roles of mentor, connector, peer, wellness advocate, and confidant. You are encouraged to give Marnie and Nick feedback on their draft picks. How will they fare with their new Diamond Dogs?

Marnie Stockman:

Welcome to Lens of Leadership. It's Marnie and Nick. Today's bonus episode. It's Draft Day. I'm Marnie Stockman.

Nick Coniglio:

And I'm Nick Coniglio, and welcome to our podcast, which is different than our podcasts have traditionally been. Traditionally, we have done a rewatch podcast, taking leadership lessons from each episode, but this time I'm excited. I am not that I haven't been excited before, but I am super excited.

Nick Coniglio:

It's draft day. It is draft day. It is that time of year the NFL draft my favorite time of year being a Jets fan. It's our most promising time of year. But we have the opportunity to talk, some draft speak with Ted Lasso, and that's what we're doing. We have decided that, instead of drafting players for an NFL team, we're going to draft some Ted Lasso characters.

Marnie Stockman:

Yeah, we're going to watch our Diamondlot dogs. So in our book Lead it Like Lasso, we talk about how you're the average of the five folks that you surround yourself with, and Ted has done a fantastic job creating his group of Diamond Dogs. So we look at Diamond Dogs as kind of a personal board of advisors, and so we've kind of created five roles that we are going to select for Mentor, connector or someone who's great at networking, a peer, a wellness coach, and then a confidant someone you can tell everything to a good listener, love it, love it.

Nick Coniglio:

So who doesn't love a good draft? Smells like potential, right, so let's get into it. So we came to this scenario. It took us a while. We were originally going to draft against each other but then we were like, yeah, we kind of know. Scenario. It took us a while. We were originally going to draft against each other but then we were like, yeah, we kind of know, we've worked together for so long, we know each other so well. Just didn't seem like the most intriguing or exciting thing.

Marnie Stockman:

We wanted to strategize. We wanted to be on the same team. The draft is like all of this it's the strategy.

Nick Coniglio:

Exactly, the war room. Get everything, the board, get everything set up. Yeah. So we came up with the idea of drafting against some generative AI, some chat GPT drafting yeah.

Nick Coniglio:

Yeah, and, and we thought it'd be a good experiment. We actually advise people, we use it ourselves as a tool to sharpen skills, to do research. We want to see how we can stretch chat GPT, so we're going to ask it to do a little draft simulation, not only help us with the simulation, but also draft a team against us. So we honestly have no idea where this will go, but that's kind of the fun part about it.

Marnie Stockman:

And you're across. We should probably, if you haven't, if you haven't done a lot of research around AI. Ai is shockingly good at some things and shockingly bad at math, so you may want to explain the rules and why this is concerning to us. As we tell, chat to pick.

Nick Coniglio:

So the rules real quick. So we got two teams. Marnie and I are a team and we're called the Nobodies. Yeah, and we are going to be battling against the chat pack, also known as chat GPT.

Marnie Stockman:

Chat GPT 4.0.

Nick Coniglio:

As Moni said, we're going to be drafting a personal board of advisors or our Diamond Dog group, really focusing on that personal and professional growth. How do we round out ourselves with people around us who can hold us accountable, people we trust, people that can help us get better and become the best versions of ourselves. And then we had to set up some rules. So I'm going to walk through the rules as quick as I can, and they are as follows. First, each team is going to be able to draft five Ted Lasso characters to fill out their Diamond Dog group. So the draft's obviously going to be five rounds long.

Nick Coniglio:

For those of you, like myself, who have participated in fantasy football drafts, we're going to use kind of a snake format a little bit weird with two teams, but what that means is whoever has the first pick in the first round, we'll have the second pick in the second round and then. So we're alternating picks every round just to try to make it fair, and then the strategy comes into play. So we're alternating picks every round just to try to make it fair, and then the strategy comes into play. So we're going to. We're going to have a budget.

Nick Coniglio:

It's going to be a budget based draft, and what we mean by that is we've assigned pretty much all the characters of Ted Lasso a dollar amount of value ranging at the very top level. Ted Lasso's, as an example, has a value of $1,100. It'll cost you $1,100 to draft Ted. All the way down at the bottom we've got Jack and we've got Rupert at $50. But the strategy comes into play, so we can only draft five people, as we said, but our budget as owners of the team is $2,000, right, so we can't just draft the cream of the crop, the very top.

Marnie Stockman:

Ted and Rebecca would bankrupt us. Yes, very quickly.

Nick Coniglio:

We had a little coin flip beforehand and we lost.

Marnie Stockman:

We lost the coin flip to ChatGPT.

Nick Coniglio:

We didn't even show it. I don't know. We're pretty bad at that. So the chat pack is going to have the first pick and let's go over the costs of the characters real quick, or the value of the characters. So I'm going to go through these real quick. If you're on YouTube, you'll be able to see them. Otherwise, for our listening audience, we'll be revisiting these as we pick them. So at the very top we've got Ted at $1,100, followed by Rebecca at $1,000. Keely and Roy are at $700. Kind of funny that we valued them the same. Higgins and Sam are at $600. Dr Sharon's at $500. Coach Beard and Trent Krim and Jamie are at $400. Zava is at 250. Isaac's at 200, along with Danny Rojas and May Green. May pub owner Nate and Barbara at 150. Colin Jade and Jan Moss, will, our kitman and Sassy are at 100. And then at the bottom we have Rupert and Jack. So all the people killing us on those values. We expect to get some criticism.

Marnie Stockman:

That's because somebody should pay us to take Rupert, but that's okay, hopefully it won't come to that.

Nick Coniglio:

Yeah, so the first order of the business. This could be the shortest podcast around drafts ever. If chat does not play with us, chat doesn't know what to do. Yeah, but I uploaded the rules and the scenario to chat, along with the player values, and we're going to see what chat has to say. Hopefully he's willing to play with us. So he's thinking. He's thinking oh, we're getting some texts.

Marnie Stockman:

For those of you that have not worked with chat before, chat actually has a feature where it will read its answer to you. So so we're not, we won't be cheating at all. We're just going to play the chat, the chat's answer, so you'll get to hear. You'll get to hear ChatGPT give its reports.

Nick Coniglio:

He's done. You ready to hear what he says?

Marnie Stockman:

Yeah, let's see. Does he want to play?

Nick Coniglio:

Yeah.

Chat GPT:

I've reviewed the character costs. Everything looks set and I understand the budget and rules. We can start the draft simulation whenever you're ready, he knows what he's doing.

Marnie Stockman:

All right, as Roger Goodell kicks things off.

Nick Coniglio:

I think we're about to hear from the commissioner right now.

Speaker 4:

Good evening and welcome to the 2024 Diamond Dog Draft. Tonight we celebrate the TV show we love and we celebrate as everyone works to become the best version of themselves. The Diamond Dog Draft for 2024 is officially open. The chat pack is on the clock.

Nick Coniglio:

That is fantastic. As the commissioner said, the 2024 Diamond Dog Draft is now open. Make it happen, make it happen, and so chat, we are ready for your first pick. Hit, enter. All right, here he goes. He's thinking, he's giving a reason and he's giving us a budget. Okay, I'm going to play it for everybody in our audience.

Chat GPT:

Great. For my first pick, I select Ted Lasso, the main character of the show. Reason for the pick Ted Lasso brings unparalleled optimism and excellent leadership skills, which are crucial for personal and professional growth. Remaining budget for the chat pack $900, started with $2,000 and Ted Lasso costs well in hundred dollars. Your turn, the nobodies.

Speaker 4:

Pick one for the chat pack is Ted Lasso. Ted is the embodiment of positivity, always ready with a warm smile and a believe sign to uplift everyone around him. Curious and never judgmental, Ted's the advisor who will inspire you to explore every angle without losing the spirit of fun. Though he's still polishing his long-term strategy skills and stepping up his self-care game, Ted's heart and dedication make him a champion in making better plays, both on the field and in life.

Marnie Stockman:

Way to take out half your budget there, chad, okay.

Nick Coniglio:

Yeah, that.

Marnie Stockman:

Chad's not wrong, optimist, positive, like Chad's a great pick, but so expensive. I don't, I don't, we can't, I don't, I don't. Unfortunately, I think because of the prices, that Ted and Rebecca are off the table.

Nick Coniglio:

Yeah, yeah, I would think I would hope we said he's bad at math.

Speaker 4:

So let's hope he doesn't drop oh for us.

Nick Coniglio:

Okay, yeah, but what a great pick, right. I mean let's be honest, you might not need a personal board or a Diamond Dog group of five people if you have Ted on your board. Yeah, so OK, so Ted's off the board. We kind of suspected that that might be the case, because we might have made the same pick, so it's our turn.

Speaker 4:

So, what are you?

Nick Coniglio:

thinking. I'm thinking, keeley, you're thinking.

Marnie Stockman:

Keeley. So what are you thinking? I have my ideas.

Nick Coniglio:

You're thinking Keely. Why are you thinking Keely?

Marnie Stockman:

Yeah, um, so Keely is supportive, positive, like Ted, also willing to give honest feedback in a way that is that you can hear it. I mean, think about all the times she told Rebecca, like well, you are a little prickly, but, but can still like, wants to help and be better. She told Rebecca, like well, you are a little prickly, but can still like, wants to help and be better. She can break bad news to people. She's connected. I think she's got a lot of strengths.

Nick Coniglio:

Yeah, I can't argue with Kaylee. I think you said the one word right. So if I think of Diamond Dogs helping me get better personally at something being a connector you know somebody who's really skilled at networking that's absolutely one of the skills that I can use a lot of improvement on.

Nick Coniglio:

I'm also going to say and in business, like she's such an influencer, yeah, yeah, she's creative, right, you know she's an expert in branding and communication and what's. She's an expert in branding and communication and what's, what's I? This is a side note, but what's one of our goals with Lead it Like Lasso? It's to somehow become viral on social media, right?

Marnie Stockman:

And maybe she can help with that. I think she can. That'd be great. She can rhyme her bum off.

Nick Coniglio:

So I love a good rhyme, yeah All right, so I'm going to, I I'm gonna tell the chat pack and and everybody that our first pick is keely is keely, and then and then we need to pick our second one I'll let chat know, we'll give you our second pick, or do you need to update?

Marnie Stockman:

So Keely's $700. So that leaves us with $1,300. And because of the snake draft structure, we will make our second pick.

Speaker 4:

Pick one for the nobodies is Keely Jones. Keely will play an important role of a supportive collaborator, demonstrating unwavering dedication to her team's success. She fosters a positive and inclusive team environment, excels at building strong relationships and actively seeks out teamwork and collective problem-solving opportunities. While Keely is exceptional at fostering relationships and team unity, she might enhance her leadership skills by aligning her collaborative efforts with larger organizational goals. Keely will make a positive contribution to any room of Diamond Dogs.

Nick Coniglio:

OK, so Chad. Chad has given us a pat on the back. Fantastic choice, bringing creativity and excellent public relations skills to the table.

Marnie Stockman:

Why? Thank you, chad.

Nick Coniglio:

I think Chad. You know she brings a heck of a lot more than that.

Marnie Stockman:

So nice to throw one thing.

Nick Coniglio:

So, as you stated, and Chad has told us as well, we're now down to $1,300 in our budget because Keeley cost us $700. All right, do I get to pick next? Yeah, do anything. Well, there's two approaches here, right? I think the first is Chad is going to have to pick somebody relatively inexpensive because he spent $1,100.

Marnie Stockman:

It's okay at math it should figure that out.

Nick Coniglio:

So do we try to play the strategy game or do we take best available on the board? Given our constraints, I'm leaning more towards best available on the board, given that we have some constraints. Right, we can't really pick Rebecca here, because our budget would be just about done. So I'm thinking about the six to $700 range. Um, and I really like Trent, and let me tell you why I like Trent. Um, first of all, I value the fact that he's a listener. Right, he's curious. He kind of has, you know, being in the press, right, in the truest sense, the old-fashioned sense of the press. Right, he has that commitment to integrity, yeah, and I think the biggest thing about it, he's objective. So I trust his advice. Right, is the ability to provide insights, kind of without bias. That's his job, so that's-.

Marnie Stockman:

Well and we've seen him grow Like. We've already seen him, just in five episodes, kind of change his mind about TED. So he is willing to do the like you said the reflective listening, and learn from it right, Not just assume he's always right and he's only $400.

Nick Coniglio:

Oh, even better yeah.

Marnie Stockman:

That's assume he's always right and he's only 400 uh so even better. Yeah, yeah, I say trent crim the independent for the win.

Nick Coniglio:

Yeah, I'm a super fan of trent. Yeah, okay. Well, if we need help with math and numbers later, which we might, can I rely on you? Or do I have to draft somebody as a diamond dog for that? Because clearly I was off there all. Let me. Our second pick is Trent Krim.

Speaker 4:

Pick two for the nobodies is Trent Krim, independent formerly of the Independent. With his exceptional emotional intelligence, strategic problem-solving skills and effective communication, trent brings a wealth of insight to the team as he continues to enhance his adaptability and stakeholder engagement. His unique perspectives will certainly contribute to the nobody's collective growth.

Nick Coniglio:

Let's see what Chad has to say about that.

Marnie Stockman:

I wonder if Chad will trash talk us at all.

Nick Coniglio:

No, no, ma'am. Another great addition. No, it's integrity and investigative skills.

Marnie Stockman:

Oh, you said integrity.

Nick Coniglio:

Yeah, authentic okay and he has already picked.

Marnie Stockman:

Oh okay oh play, let it read out loud yeah, let's, uh, let's go with his second round.

Chat GPT:

Trent crim, independent, formerly of the independent, another great addition known for his integrity and investigative skills. Remaining budget for the nobodies $900, after selecting Trent Krim for $400. For my second round pick, I choose Dr Sharon Fieldstone.

Speaker 4:

Pick two for the chat pack is Dr Sharon Fieldstone. As a skilled psychologist, Dr Sharon excels in resilience building, creating safe environments for open dialogue and influential communication. Her ongoing development in adaptability and in-person farewells will further enhance her invaluable contributions to the team's dynamics and success.

Chat GPT:

Oh no, and emotional intelligence, essential for navigating personal and professional challenges. Remaining budget for the chat pack $400. After selecting Dr Sharon Fieldstone, for $500. Now it's your turn for the third round.

Nick Coniglio:

Let's let the audience in on this, because Dr Sharon was absolutely was probably the first person that we talked about drafting and we thought that she would be around later.

Marnie Stockman:

I don't know why yeah I am stunned.

Nick Coniglio:

Yeah, that dog. Okay, so we're gonna have to, we're gonna have to regroup a little on this, and so we're. We're now, we're at 1100, so we 900 to go and he's got well. He said it's our turn for the third round, but it's really his turn. So, I'm going to say that.

Marnie Stockman:

Oh gosh, he missed the pick again.

Nick Coniglio:

Okay, he does not understand snake drafts, so I'm going to let him know it's a snake draft. It's a snake draft. So you have a pick in the third round.

Marnie Stockman:

Now please go ahead. Oh, I cannot believe that dog.

Nick Coniglio:

Oh, all right, he's picking. Let me play it for you here we go.

Chat GPT:

Ah, my mistake. Continuing with the snake draft order, for my third round pick, I choose Coach Beard. Reason for the pick Coach Beard offers strategic insight and a deep understanding of team dynamics, critical for advising on growth and development strategies. Remaining budget for the chat pack $0 after selecting Coach Beard for $400. Now it's over to you for the next pick.

Nick Coniglio:

Okay, I think we're going to have to take a timeout here and readdress the rules with the chat pack. Let's do that right now. Okay, we're going to have to do a little course correction with chat. I'm going to let him know that it was stated clearly in the rules that you have to have at least $50 left in your budget through round four so you can pick for all five rounds. I let him know that and I'm going to ask him to try again with his third pick, see what he has to say with that, he's very cordial about it he's done, he's made his pick, so let me read it to you.

Chat GPT:

Thank you for pointing that out. Let's adjust the selection to comply with the budget rules. For my revised third round pick, I choose Danny Rojas, my revised third round pick.

Speaker 4:

I choose Danny Rojas Pick three for the chat pack. Danny Rojas leadership is life Known for his unyielding enthusiasm and impressive athletic skills. Danny brings a contagious positivity and strong team spirit to the group as he works on enhancing his consistency and adapting to change Danny's dynamic energy and commitment are sure to inspire and elevate Chat Pack's collective efforts.

Chat GPT:

Reason for the pick Danny brings infectious enthusiasm and a positive attitude, vital for motivating and inspiring personal and professional growth. Remaining budget for the Chat Pack $200. After selecting Danny Rojas for $200. Now it's your turn for the third round pick.

Nick Coniglio:

All right.

Marnie Stockman:

What do you think of football? Is life, danny Rojas, danny Rojas, he is infectiously optimistic and he is what inspired our leadership. Is life Rule number one in the book? Right, but we've Keely, who is also pretty infectiously optimistic, so I don't know that. Danny would have been my next pick, so I'm all right with that. But what I would like to point out is that he's taken everybody $200 and above off the table, so he's either got to pick Nate or Barbara and then get saddled with Rupert or Jack or a couple of the 200, a couple of the 100 folks we get to pick two in a row. If there's somebody we really want in the 150 or below category, I think we need to make sure we take care of it sooner rather than later. I mean, we get two picks in a row, but we need to not wait at the bottom because Jack can stick us with somebody.

Nick Coniglio:

Yeah, so it also feels like fourth grade. Nick is beginning to surface because I'm like, okay, let me make a pick. So he's really forced to pick somebody. Really bad. But I don't think that's the right thing to do, right, especially since we're trying to build a diamond dog group.

Marnie Stockman:

Tell fourth grade Nick, we've graduated.

Nick Coniglio:

Well, fourth grade, nick was a Jets fan, and that means something. I don't know what that means, but it means I've suffered. Lifelong is what I think it means. Okay, so we got two picks.

Marnie Stockman:

Yeah.

Nick Coniglio:

And how much money do we have left?

Marnie Stockman:

We have $900 left.

Nick Coniglio:

We've got $900 left. Okay.

Marnie Stockman:

We could have picked Sharon earlier if I'd known that was coming, but we didn't, so we'll play by the rules. This is how you know. It's not made up. It goes to all right. So we have 900 left. Um, it does mean we could. We could do Roy. If we got Roy, he's 700. So we'd have to take two of the one hundreds. The other person that you and I had talked about early on was that we wanted may.

Nick Coniglio:

Yeah.

Marnie Stockman:

And we can't have Roy and May.

Nick Coniglio:

Well, we can't really. I mean, we could have Roy, yeah, and then below that we have to pick two of.

Speaker 4:

Colin.

Nick Coniglio:

Jade.

Speaker 4:

Young.

Nick Coniglio:

Moss, will, sassy, rupert or Jack. Yeah, and I love Roy. I mean I think his honesty and directness is kind of that blunt, you know no-nonsense type demeanor, but I think we kind of get that with Trent and even Keely a little bit.

Marnie Stockman:

Yeah, I think Keely's a good friend.

Nick Coniglio:

Yeah, yeah with Trent and even Keely a little bit. Yeah, I think Keely's a good friend, yeah, yeah, I mean, and I think we're building out this personal board and we want it to be level or even right. We don't really want it to be top heavy, dominated just by one or two people. We want it to be a full, immersive group.

Marnie Stockman:

We've everybody's got the same opinion than somebody's extra right.

Nick Coniglio:

Yeah. So I know we valued and mentioned her May right.

Marnie Stockman:

Yeah.

Nick Coniglio:

Tell me what you think about May and tell the audience why you like her.

Marnie Stockman:

So May has seen a lot of things. She's got a lot of perspective. She knows how to run a business. She knows people. You don't get through running your own bar without knowing people, knowing trends right. She also is willing to look outside. She's not going to go get bogged down in petty stuff like that's beneath her, and I think it's important to have different perspectives and I think May brings a different one to the party. She's enthusiastic, she'll be honest and she doesn't get her feelings hurt either.

Nick Coniglio:

Yeah, I completely agree. I mean, as business owners, if we ever have a chance to get another business owner on board, I mean there's so much value in that. I completely agree with you. I completely agree with you. You know, she really exemplifies. I think one of our core values is to create raving fans around customer service right, but she knows how to call out people when they're wrong too.

Marnie Stockman:

At the same time, I mean the customer is not always right as Mae will tell you okay, and she's, you know, she's also great.

Nick Coniglio:

You know kind of keying off of I think we talked about keely and networking and and yeah, she's connected. She is connected, she's a community builder. Right, she built a community around her bar. So we're in agreement, we're going to do may for two hundred dollars, is that so?

Marnie Stockman:

hang tight because chat only has $200 left right.

Nick Coniglio:

Chat only has $200 left, right Okay.

Marnie Stockman:

So can we talk through who else we might want? Because if we want anybody else at the bottom of the board, we should pick them first. Because I don't want chat stealing our $100 person, because clearly chat is better this than we thought it was going to be.

Nick Coniglio:

Okay. So if we were to pick May, yeah At $200, that would bring us down to $700. Right.

Marnie Stockman:

Yeah, yeah, okay, so yeah.

Nick Coniglio:

Oh, wow. So that would still give us an opportunity to pick Sam.

Marnie Stockman:

Right, I mean one of our.

Nick Coniglio:

He's very near top of our board.

Marnie Stockman:

Yeah.

Nick Coniglio:

Right and we'd still be able to pick a hundred dollar character. So our a hundred dollar characters are Colin Jade Janmas. I mentioned this. Well, sassy, you know, a surprise sleeper pick that I had on my board is Isaac. You know, not only was he a captain, kind of understood team dynamics, you know, he's filled our leadership role, but I think that the biggest thing about isaac, besides free haircuts well, actually, they weren't free, were they um, he was, he was truly a true friend. Right, he had your back. Right, the whole situation was with colin it was just moving and touching um.

Nick Coniglio:

So of the list that we talked about, since we I don't think we're going to go with Isaac. If we get, we get Sam. We couldn't afford him. I really like Sassy, sassy, smurf.

Marnie Stockman:

Well, if you're looking for a true friend, she is that, even if she doesn't make him stinky. Yeah, oh wait, isn't she a school psychologist, like we lost sharon, or is she a child psychologist?

Nick Coniglio:

I, you know, I don't know the answer to that.

Marnie Stockman:

All right wait, I think she is. I'm gonna get to google and hold on. Uh, sassy from ted lasso. Ted Lasso job Child psychologist. Hey, hey, if we can't have Sharon, we might as well have a sassy child psychologist.

Nick Coniglio:

Okay, alright, so we good picking sassy.

Marnie Stockman:

Yeah, yes, I think we have to block and get her for our $100 person.

Nick Coniglio:

Okay, this is an entire strategy play and I think we just have given and get her for our $100 person. Okay, this is an entire strategy play and I think we just have given everybody else our remaining picks. So our third round pick is Sassy.

Speaker 4:

Pick three for the nobodies is child psychologist Flo Sassy Collins. Sassy brings her unwavering confidence, deep loyalty and unwavering support to the team. As she focuses on balancing her personal and professional life and her own personal mess, sassy is poised to help the team work together to grow.

Nick Coniglio:

Take that chat pack.

Marnie Stockman:

And then we should get to pick again. But chat sometimes has a mind of its own. I can't hear what chat has to say. I can't read it.

Nick Coniglio:

Let me just First of all, he picked, so let me just read.

Chat GPT:

Let's read what he has to say Sassy, is selected, known for her resilience and straightforward approach. Remaining budget for the nobodies $800, after selecting Sassy for $100. Correct, now back to me for remaining budget for the nobodies $800, after selecting sassy for a hundred dollars.

Marnie Stockman:

Correct, now back to me for the fourth round pick Not really, I choose Isik McAdoo. Okay, so I you know what? Are you stopping it?

Nick Coniglio:

I did stop it.

Marnie Stockman:

Yes, Okay, I think we should re pick and then say and we're going to take our fourth round pick, do the snake draft right.

Nick Coniglio:

Yeah.

Marnie Stockman:

And then remind it what it has left. Is that what you were thinking?

Nick Coniglio:

Well, yeah, so you want them to get Isaac, because there's other things wrong with Chad having Isaac as well, which is he will make $0. Yes, so I'm going to let him know. You can't pick Isaac.

Marnie Stockman:

You only have $200 left. What does that?

Nick Coniglio:

say it said you're right again. Thanks for catching that and I apologize for the oversight. Please go ahead with your fourth round pick.

Marnie Stockman:

So our fourth pick, then I mean we have left on the table. We're going to go with Sam or May, right?

Speaker 4:

so it really doesn't matter, sam pick four for the nobodies is nigerian soccer starts sam obisanya. Sam's infectious optimism, leadership qualities and athletic prowess make him a pivotal addition to their team as he continues to refine his strategic thinking and conflict resolution skills.

Marnie Stockman:

Sam's presence promises to inspire. Oh, I'm excited to get Sam. Sam is optimistic, right. He brings a lot of that to the party. He works hard. He's got a business as well.

Nick Coniglio:

He's connected. I'm a super fan of Sam's dad. Onward forward you know yeah. Sam's also a business owner.

Marnie Stockman:

Right, I mean, he started a business.

Nick Coniglio:

Yeah, yeah, we'll get good food, We'll have our meetings at his restaurant and he brings us I mean, he's got this worldliness around about him, right? I mean, he lives in Europe, he's from Africa, very, very diverse perspective. So, yeah, okay, so, but what does it say? Oh, it already picked again, so let's listen to what Chad has to say, okay, Obisanya is an excellent choice, known for his integrity and passion.

Chat GPT:

Remaining budget for the Nobodies $200,. After selecting Sam Obisanya for $600. For my fourth round pick, I'll select Colin Hughes.

Speaker 4:

Pick four for the chat pack is player Colin Hughes. Colin brings a strong team spirit, a great sense of humor and adaptability to the pack, as he focuses on improving his communication skills and enhancing his consistency. Colin's contributions are sure to strengthen the team dynamics.

Chat GPT:

Reason for the pick Colin offers a blend of humor and team spirit that can lighten the mood and foster a positive environment within any group. Remaining budget for the chat pack $100. After selecting Colin Hughes for $100. Now on to the final round.

Marnie Stockman:

Your pick the nobodies it's actually your pick chat, but, but he's not going to be able to afford uh who we want, right?

Nick Coniglio:

because, we're we're going Because we're going with May, and can I say again how bad chat is at understanding these rules. This is kind of crazy.

Marnie Stockman:

I feel like we have a blog article or something else coming out about this, some mini rant at least about chat yeah, so let's let them know that we picked, or it's your pick, or it's your pick. It's your pick. You have $100 left. Remind it again and remedial math with Marnie after school. Yep.

Nick Coniglio:

And this is his fifth and final pick, right.

Marnie Stockman:

All right, can't wait to hear what Chad has to say.

Nick Coniglio:

He's coming, all right.

Chat GPT:

Thank you for the reminder For my final pick I select Will Kittman.

Speaker 4:

Pick five for the chat pack is the dedicated Kittman Will Will's unwavering reliability, supportive nature and commitment to excellence make him an invaluable addition. As he works on boosting his assertiveness and expanding his professional skills, will's role is sure to evolve as a member of the pack.

Chat GPT:

Reason for the pick Will brings a supportive and hardworking nature to the team, essential for maintaining morale and ensuring all statistical needs are met in personal and professional development. Remaining budget for the chat pack zero dollars. After selecting Will Kittman for a hundred dollars. Now it's over to you for the final pick.

Marnie Stockman:

I think Will's a good choice, honestly, and plus he knows all the inside. He's always in the right room at the right time to hear all the conversations, so Will is a good choice. Chad did not do badly once it was corrected for all his math errors.

Nick Coniglio:

You feel like we're being a little revisionist with our sassy pick or you're still comfortable with our sassy pick.

Marnie Stockman:

No, I'm good with sassy.

Nick Coniglio:

Okay, all right.

Speaker 4:

So our fifth pick is May, with an exclamation Pick five for the nobodies is the beloved pub owner, may. May's strengths lie in her remarkable ability to build community, her strong leadership presence and her empathetic support, which make her an integral part of any team. As she continues to innovate in her business practices and improve her conflict management skills, may is set to bring a unique blend of warmth and practicality to the Nobody's Advisory Board.

Nick Coniglio:

Okay, let's listen to what.

Chat GPT:

Chad has to say real quick. May is a great final addition, known for her community spirit and supportive nature. Remaining budget for the Nobody's $100 after selecting May for $100. That wraps up our draft. Here's a recap of the advisory board members for each team, the chat pack one ted lasso. Two dr sharon fieldstone. Three danny rojas. Four colin hughes. Five will kitman. The nobodies one keely jones. Two trent crim. Three sassy. Four sam ob 5. May, when you're ready, I'll provide a written summary of how my selected board will help accomplish the goal of growing personally and professionally. Just let me know when you'd like to proceed.

Marnie Stockman:

You go right ahead, Chet.

Nick Coniglio:

So it looks like he's going to provide us with a summary of each character.

Marnie Stockman:

Okay, Well, what do you think of the team, of his team?

Nick Coniglio:

Yeah, I think he's like the Houston Texans from last year. Their first two picks are just superstars Right. And I think he picked Ted Lasso and Dr Sharon in those two. By itself, imagine having those two in your Diamond Dog group. They cover so much. I think it's pretty, pretty amazing and I like the fact actually, as I think about it, that he, he picked Danny right, as I think about it, that he, he picked Danny right. Um, you know, I know Ted has a has a way about him that's enthusiastic.

Marnie Stockman:

but Danny takes it to an entirely new level, which is kind of cool. I think bridled enthusiasm yeah, I would agree.

Nick Coniglio:

Colin and Will. I think I think they're both interesting picks, mostly because the show really those are two characters. I mean Colin, we explored a lot about his, you know where he is personally, will, not so much. So I'm just trying to circle the square on those last two picks. I think those were budget-related picks.

Marnie Stockman:

Well, and they are young, right, so there's room for growth there, but he does have two very strong leaders who we know have the patience to help people grow, so I think that's right.

Nick Coniglio:

But Ready to hear and listen.

Marnie Stockman:

Oh yeah, so the rest yeah.

Chat GPT:

Advisory board summary for the chat pack. One Ted Lasso. As the head of the advisory board, ted Lasso will infuse every strategy with his infectious optimism and empathetic leadership. His approach ensures that personal growth is aligned with positive values and a nurturing environment, fostering a culture where everyone feels valued and motivated to excel. Two Dr Sharon Fieldstone. Dr Fieldstone will provide psychological insights and emotional intelligence training to enhance interpersonal skills and self-awareness across the board. Her expertise will be crucial in overcoming personal barriers and enhancing mental resilience, key aspects of personal development.

Chat GPT:

Three Danny Rojas. Danny's unwavering positivity and enthusiasm will serve to motivate and energize the board and its initiatives. His spirit will help maintain high morale and drive, especially in challenging times, ensuring that the pursuit of professional excellence is always approached with vigor and joy. Four Colin Hughes. Colin brings a lighter touch to the team with his humor and camaraderie. His ability to ease tensions and foster friendly relationships will be instrumental in maintaining a pleasant and collaborative atmosphere within the board. Five Will Kittman, as the supportive backbone of the team, will ensures that all logistical and operational needs are met with diligence and care. His role is essential in creating a smooth and efficient working environment, allowing other board members to focus fully on strategic objectives without distraction. Together, this diverse group will leverage their unique strengths to create a holistic approach to personal and professional development, ensuring that all aspects, from emotional wellbeing to operational efficiency, are covered. This board is well-equipped to guide any individual or organization towards achieving their fullest potential in a balanced and sustainable manner.

Nick Coniglio:

You know it's funny that last sentence. This board is well equipped to guide any individual organization towards achieving their fullest potential in a balanced and sustainable manner. First of all, that's very chat. That's a lot of chat.

Marnie Stockman:

I'm surprised. Nobody was delving into anything. But anyway, go on.

Nick Coniglio:

I mean, he, it's weird, he not weird, but he really did approach this. He, chad, really did approach this, I think, from more of a business perspective, with board of advisors right, a full rounded team, whereas I'm not necessarily sure that when you're looking for your diamond dogs or your personal board of advisors, they don't I'm not sure all the time they have the opportunity to act as cohesively as a team.

Marnie Stockman:

Not that that's not ideal, because that would be ideal, I think, in a lot of scenarios, but maybe we approached it from less of a textbook type definition of a board of advisors Of a board that's gonna yeah, yeah, because, like you said, with a personal board of advisors it's not like the diamond dogs on the show, where you actually just get a little. You know everybody circles up is more the individual connections you make with each member, right, yeah, yeah, and the group dynamics, okay. So you're ready to talk about ours.

Nick Coniglio:

Yeah, I am. What do you think? All right, so we have the team of Trent, keely, sam May and Sassy and you know, I think out of the gate. Marnie, you had talked about a lot of the traits and characteristics we were we were thinking of when we were thinking about Diamond Dogs and specifically you mentioned mentor, connector, peer wellness and confidant. Yeah, right, how do we do?

Marnie Stockman:

Well, I think there's a lot of overlap. I think several of them could fit into several of those slots. Laugh, I think several of them could fit into several of those slots. But I also think we could really define one as sort of the defining trait for each. So, like for mentor May, what did you say? Been there, done that? Right, she's connector. I think that one's obvious.

Nick Coniglio:

That one's too easy. Now fortunately for us, we don't need one because you're one, but yeah, for my personal.

Marnie Stockman:

I'm not almost famous for being almost famous.

Nick Coniglio:

But Kelly could also, just to you know, even though she's a connector right Specifically around brand awareness and digital media presence and things that that we know we're. We're looking for some advice and help on.

Marnie Stockman:

Yeah, I can't wait to hear from her. I can't wait to let them know that they will be invited to our first meeting of the Nobody's diamond dogs. Um, how about for?

Nick Coniglio:

peer, peer, I I would think sam. Yeah, you know, I I think normal people international soccer star yeah, and I feel like we can call him up tomorrow, and and I think we can not only call up Sam, but call on I forget the actor's name who plays Sam, do you remember? Yes, I feel like we can call him up and have dinner with him.

Marnie Stockman:

He's invited, we'll have a cookout.

Nick Coniglio:

Absolutely. What about wellness?

Marnie Stockman:

Well, it's gotta be sassy, right, Cause we picked her for the child psychologist piece. I don't know that all of Sassy would define wellness in that regard. So we're going to need Sam to give us some food tips and really work out strategy. I look at Sam too. He's going to need to chase us around to get us jogging or something.

Nick Coniglio:

I mean, let's not sell sassy that short Again. We were talking about her also, you know, being a true friend to people, right, and that's such a big part of wellness. I think it can't be overstated.

Marnie Stockman:

Agreed and then that leaves confidant Trent. Absolutely. If he proves nothing else like that is someone who has integrity Right In in keeping Colin's secret a secret and being a confidant to Colin until he was ready to to not have it a secret any longer with Ted and not giving up his source right For I found that information. Um, I think he is a true confidant. I also think he's a great listener and questioner, which is something I really value.

Nick Coniglio:

Yeah, you almost feel like you need to have that in a confidant right Because, um, sometimes things got to be pulled out of you and if you trust somebody to listen and not judge you, and I think it's just critically important, and I think that's Trent. I think we've talked about it many times. Trent is one of our favorite characters on the show. Yeah, yeah, so any regrets.

Marnie Stockman:

Trent to read it. Like Lassa, I'd like Trent to read our book and see how close it is to the LASA way or the Richmond way.

Nick Coniglio:

Yeah, how do we?

Marnie Stockman:

do that? How do we do that If Keeley would tell us how Keeley would know?

Nick Coniglio:

We should know within the next 12 months, because I think our personal board of advisors, our very own Diamond Dogs, are going to instruct us on how to do it.

Chat GPT:

I can't wait to find out.

Nick Coniglio:

You know we've joked around about this but we actually put this in our book. Around Diamond Dogs and you mentioned earlier, you're kind of a lot of people say you're kind of the average of the five people that are closest to you in your network. But really taking a deep, hard look into those people that you rely on, on a daily basis.

Nick Coniglio:

Yeah, that influence you. It's something that I think we've done in the past and I think it's something we strongly advocate for. This is a really good exercise, even for us to talk about and think about when we were in the planning stages of areas that we really feel like we need some support and some accountability and some open conversation around. I would strongly encourage everybody to kind of think about that and maybe even look at some of our you can talk about. We have an activity in the book, right, that kind of outlines certain areas.

Marnie Stockman:

Yeah, yeah, where you really go through and kind of look at your five closest contacts and how they help you in the different areas right contacts and how they help you in the different areas Right. It's interesting I had I had my kids do it and their friends and in some of the comments from that one said like only one person supports me in all these ways and some people really don't support me much outside of socially and I can do better for myself. I thought, well, that's an interesting statement.

Nick Coniglio:

Wow, wow, all right, I asked it earlier and I don't think you heard me. Do you have any regrets? Any people on the board that are still out there that?

Marnie Stockman:

didn't take. I want them all. We didn't have the budget for them all. You know Roy would be a great addition. Like, of course, I mean Ted and Rebecca. Obviously Right, I'm missing so many zeros in my bank account that I don't know that Rebecca would ever run in my circle, but I would really like to meet that tall and intimidating woman. How about you?

Nick Coniglio:

You know I, roy, obviously you know he's, he's one of my favorite characters. Clearly I'm surprised, given the the, the evolution and the growth of Jamie Chart right, that he wasn't. We didn't. We talked about him a little bit, right? But uh, Chad didn't entertain him. Um, you know he, he came a long way, um, but clearly he wasn't there.

Marnie Stockman:

But the other one, the big one to me, is um Higgins, higgins, I knew you were going to say Higgins, yeah, yeah, he brings a lot to the table.

Nick Coniglio:

Yeah, and he in so many different areas, right, I mean, he's a great family man, he has words that are quite wise. I mean, from a business standpoint, he runs operations, he takes time to get to know everybody and we talked about this a little bit with May and building community and obviously, keely right, higgins is absolutely one of those individuals as well, as evidenced by maybe the best Christmas episode ever the whole team over to his house.

Marnie Stockman:

I'm going to get a plug in.

Nick Coniglio:

But yeah, I always. You know, I always find myself when people ask me about my favorite quote, favorite episodes. You know, favorite thing, I always think back to. You know there's two, trent and Higgins, that I think back to and I'm a little bummed that we didn't get Higgins on our Diamond Dog team.

Marnie Stockman:

I am glad you brought up Jamie Tartan. I think my thinking on Jamie is that he grew so much himself I don't know that he has yet learned how to help others grow, and since we were looking for someone that would help us grow, I think he absolutely. You know, when season four hits, Jamie should have a major role in convincing us that he should be one of our Diamond Dogs. Yeah, but that was fun.

Nick Coniglio:

Yeah, just a quick note about Jamie ie Phil Dunster right.

Marnie Stockman:

Yeah.

Nick Coniglio:

All that running with Roy has paid off, because I saw he just finished a marathon.

Marnie Stockman:

Yeah, I saw that yeah which was pretty cool.

Nick Coniglio:

So so anyway, thank you for obliging me oh, are you kidding?

Marnie Stockman:

fantastic, I love a mock draft it's draft time.

Nick Coniglio:

I'm loving it. So, uh, I had fun.

Marnie Stockman:

I hope you did too, yeah I would love to hear what everybody thinks of our draft picks yeah, and strategies and values on characters. Uh, bring it on we know where we get it right. I'm sure we can do a lot better.

Nick Coniglio:

So we'd love to hear your feedback on that and and yeah, so I think next time we go back to our regularly scheduled programming and I think we uh, we're hitting up two aces two aces yeah.

Marnie Stockman:

I'm excited about that. We'll see you then.

Nick Coniglio:

Yeah, thanks.

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