Turn the Paige Podcast

42: I Remember Myself Again (ft. Jamie Zwier)

• Tajuana N. Paige • Episode 42

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What happens when your relationship with food transforms from struggle to strength? Jamie, a nutrition and culinary educator, joins us to share her remarkable journey from disordered eating to empowering families through healthy cooking classes.

With candor and warmth, Jamie reveals how her early career in education exposed troubling disconnects between what parents wanted for their children's nutrition and what schools actually provided. This observation sparked a profound career shift as she pursued a certification as a holistic health coach. Now, she brings vibrant, affordable healthy cooking experiences to schools, community centers, and families—making nutrition accessible and joyful rather than restrictive and complicated.

The conversation takes a deeply personal turn as Jamie discusses her postpartum experience, including breastfeeding her son until age two while navigating what she describes as "a weird funk" that lasted nearly two years. "I wasn't focusing on myself, wasn't working out, wasn't eating healthy," she shares, echoing what many mothers feel but rarely express. Her candid acknowledgment that hormones can take years to rebalance after childbirth resonates powerfully, offering validation to listeners experiencing similar challenges.

We explore fascinating connections between nutrition, women's hormonal cycles, and even Eastern medicine approaches like blood type diets and acupuncture. Jamie emphasizes that while modern medicine has its place, we often overlook the foundations of wellness: proper hydration, adequate sleep, stress reduction, and whole foods. Her practical advice focuses on making healthy eating simple and enjoyable for busy families.

Whether you're struggling with your relationship with food, navigating the complex terrain of postpartum recovery, or simply looking for ways to help your family eat healthier without the stress, this conversation offers both practical wisdom and compassionate understanding. Jamie's virtual classes now make her expertise accessible beyond her New Jersey home base—bringing her balanced approach to wellness into homes everywhere.

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Speaker 1:

Welcome to Turn the Page Podcast.

Speaker 2:

Sisters, best friends and brunch enthusiasts.

Speaker 1:

With relatable episodes that feel like you're chatting with two of your closest friends or sisters. Join us as we turn the page to different topics about losing yourself in motherhood, adulthood, anyhood.

Speaker 2:

And finding yourself again through meaningful friendships. Shameless piles of unread library books and endless Amazon package deliveries Real, honest and a little bit chaotic we talk about it all.

Speaker 1:

So grab your favorite drink, put the kids to bed, lace up your sneaks or whatever you need to do, and join us. We can't wait to connect with you.

Speaker 3:

Can't wait to connect with you. Hi guys, Welcome to Turn the Page podcast. I'm your co-host, Tawana Page.

Speaker 2:

I'm your other co-host.

Speaker 3:

Cherie Page Barber. Hi guys, we have a guest. Yes, jamie's weird, hi Jamie.

Speaker 4:

Hi, sorry, you left like a little gap gap. I didn't know if I had an no you're fine.

Speaker 3:

I'm so excited. I feel like you were on one of my podcasts a few times with tawana, like way back in the day before we all had kids oh yes, okay throwback so like that was like life before kids and then life after kids and like, oh man, it's a lifetime ago, yeah.

Speaker 2:

Tell us a little bit about yourself. Jamie, what do you do?

Speaker 4:

So what I do is I bring nutrition and culinary programming to schools and communities. So what that means is I do a little bit of everything when it comes to kids, families, healthy eating, health coaching. I do some. So I bring healthy cooking classes to like mommy meat classes to community centers, to after school clubs. I push into schools and work with schools. You know preschools and you know I'm all about healthy eating. Whatever way that I'm able to influence families, whether it's health coaching or hands-on cooking classes, nutrition education I'm your girl.

Speaker 2:

I love that so cool. Also, just a personal testament to Jamie's work. I used your program for a while and it was very healthy, like the meal planning and grocery list, and it was amazing and a lifesaver. So, great work, yes.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, I love that. I just told Jamie earlier, like two weeks ago, that I wish we were in Jersey so the kids can go to her class. She always posts like all these cooking classes for the kids and I'm like, no, I wish we were in Jersey so the kids can go to her class. She always posts like all these cooking classes for the kids and I'm like, no, I wish we were still there.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, we don't have anything like that here.

Speaker 4:

Yeah, yeah, it's only a matter of time. I feel like things are popping up here and there, but I like to, you know, differentiate, because we like to be healthy. So it's funny, cause I have friends who do cooking classes elsewhere and they're like do you ever get pushed back because your classes are healthy? I'm like no, in fact, the kids will call me out if I, you know, if I introduce chocolate chips. And they're like Miss Jamie, that's not healthy. And I'm like well, they're optional, so you don't have to add them. They're like no, no, no, we want them.

Speaker 2:

Just want to make sure you knew knew.

Speaker 4:

Yeah, yeah, a little bit of chocolate is okay, every here and there yes, everything in moderation, for sure.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, apparently I heard, dark chocolate is good for you too.

Speaker 4:

Oh yeah a little bit less sugar in those. But you know all about, all about balance. But my son had. What did he? We were just at the grocery store and he picked up the blue what is it? The sour patch, kids jello and and he had something. And you know what? You know he has, he has he indulges.

Speaker 2:

Sure, I don't restrict it, because then like he'll pick it up and then he'll put it down because I'm not like no, no, no yeah it's a little bit here and there is fine yeah, for sure, I think, especially at this age too, because it's just like they're learning what they like. We can't be too picky, you know a fat kid is a happy kid yeah exactly.

Speaker 4:

Yeah, jamie, how old is your son? He's two and a half, he's a. He's officially at that two and a half mark. He's acting the part, oh that's right.

Speaker 2:

He's also november, right, yeah, yeah, what about oh? Yeah yeah, so sage is um. She's end of november the 28th, so she's not two and a half yet, but she's almost there oh, sage is my dog's name, then oh my gosh, first baby.

Speaker 4:

So I love that name, love that is it s-a-g-e?

Speaker 2:

or s-a-i-g-e, I s-a-i-g-e. That's beautiful.

Speaker 4:

Yeah, thank you, yes I love it and my boys are five, I'm a six and then my youngest will be three in like three weeks I remember when you were pregnant with your oldest, I was like it was like, yes, it was so amazing, like it was like I don't know if it was a surprise or not, but it hit me like a surprise.

Speaker 3:

No, it was not. Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 4:

I was just like a couple months.

Speaker 3:

I love that crazy it was wild tell us about how you got into like what you're doing and like what inspired you, because you didn't start out doing it like for kids? Did you because sheree was on your plan, which isn't for kids?

Speaker 4:

but if you tell us a little bit about that, yeah, you know well, um, I initially started my career in education, so i'm'm elementary certified and school age certified, so pre-K to six, and I was into teaching for about two years and I just seen the difference. I just seen what parents wanted their kids to eat, what schools were feeding the kids, what teachers. There was such a disconnect and so I guess I'm just an impulsive person, so I kind of just like pulled back and I went back to school. I became a certified holistic health coach and then that's when I, you know, kind of connected because I would do the work with women and it's so funny because that work that I did, I need that so much for myself right now. Like I try to remember, I kind of incorporated that work into some of the schools that I worked with and it was just such a lovely fit. I really love, um, working with kids and just getting them excited about food and um and um.

Speaker 4:

So, and and now it's kind of cool that we're reconnecting and kind of having this kind of come full circle and I work with families and I do family cooking classes and because it's such a family effort you know, seeing things from I is really I really just want to emphasize that it doesn't have to be very expensive or stressful or difficult or time consuming, Like it's just going to. I want it to be part of everyone's life, because that's just how we show up as our best selves when we're feeling healthy, whatever that means to you.

Speaker 2:

Yeah yeah, for sure. What was there ever like a personal endeavor or journey that you had to use nutrition for?

Speaker 4:

or well, I did things on my own.

Speaker 4:

I didn't even really have, um, you know, uh, my parents were my parents and like they kind of just never taught me anything about being healthy and, um, I developed eating disorder in my teenage years and probably into my early 20s, um, you know, and overcame that and I just use, I was just always into nutrition and food and um, and yeah, so I, I, so that's kind of like a little bit about me, like how I got into this and yeah, I really had a nasty relationship with food and I became, you know, so it kind of that was a little bit of my, my past with that, but it's, it's really beautiful the relationship that I have now with food and I'm, you know, last night, actually, me and my family were celebrating my cousin's, uh my niece's, engagement party and we're at and I'm eating a salad, like not because, like I, I just and my husband's like yeah, it's great sharing food, right, and I just like love, I just love my healthy foods and I cause I just I, how I feel after I eat certain things, like I just don't want to feel like crap, um, I and and let me tell you now, this is like a whole different relationship that I have with food now, cause my pregnancy calls me to gain 30 pounds Like, and I actually still got weight, got weight and um, and so now it's like a different.

Speaker 4:

Like I want to work out, I want to eat healthy, to be the best. Like I don't want to look back at these photos of me and my son and my family and be like, oh, like chunky, like you know, and it's just like a.

Speaker 2:

I want to be healthy now for different reasons yes, I think that that was a big part for me. So we have a similar, just kind of like history of just like disordered relationship with food and it lingering at a very formative time of life I think especially for everybody, but I think especially for just females and like building confidence and figuring out who you are and what you like. And, um, I've learned now for me that healthy is more about, like you said, like how it feels and like how I feel while I'm eating it, after I eat it, as opposed to like how it makes me look or an outcome that I'm trying to achieve, which has been a lot easier to maintain for me, because I'm also finding like foods that I like and, like you said, don't make me feel like trash after, and then there's foods that I like and I don't feel great after, and like finding the balance of it's okay to eat, that it's just. Do you want to feel like trash for the rest of the weekend, do you know?

Speaker 4:

just kind of like giving myself some grace, especially in motherhood, my goodness we can find two seconds yeah, yeah, sometimes just a can of soup and I'm like, yeah, exactly yes, yes, jamie, did you um when you're so much younger, did you breastfeed?

Speaker 3:

and if you did, did you like try to integrate, like the eating healthy in that or formula fed? I mean, I'm just interested in that.

Speaker 4:

Yeah, if you I know, I'm glad you brought that up because, um, no, well, he was breastfed, yes, and he actually breastfed until he was probably two, so like, congratulations, amazing, so cool he, he, my husband would give me crap, but he's like you know and and now you know I, I knew it kind of wanted I, because he was such, he's such a little chunker and as soon as he started eating he was losing weight like, and I knew so. It was like the breast milk, that was like chunking him up.

Speaker 4:

Yeah, um, yeah, that's some good milk, mama, I guess lots of eggs, I don't know, for some reason, I actually do remember that, yeah yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 4:

So, um, what was this like? Oh you know what? So so I would not eat. I don't think I was eating very healthy. I you know what I kind of had. So for me, I went through a little bit of fertility stuff with him, okay. Okay, once I had him, like it took years for me to like, like and so like had him. I think I was going through some like weird postpartum stuff because I was just putting everything into him. I really wasn't going to do sleep training, wasn't going to do this. I wasn't going to do that because I was just giving him everything. But it was literally until November of last year. So what is that? 2024.

Speaker 4:

Eight months ago when I started to clean up my act and it was just weird it was. I was in a weird funk, I feel like. So I was not focusing on myself, I was not working out, I was not eating healthy and I don't, and I was just like now. It was weird. So I definitely breastfed, I, moms who breastfeed, moms who don't breastfeed, you know it's all great Whatever works for you.

Speaker 4:

I know formula is super easy and you know, um, yeah, so, uh, and I guess I say that because moms who are in like a funk, even postpartum I mean, they say that you don't, your hormones don't bounce out until you're two years postpartum, and I truly felt that I mean, maybe it's part of like the breastfeeding thing, but like I don't know, I was in a weird, weird funk. So, um, yeah, and now, you know, I am kind of seeing like the light on the other side of the tunnel and when you think of another kid.

Speaker 3:

I'm like oh, deep breath, okay, yes, Sheree and I talk about that a lot, like how it takes forever, not just for your body to recover, but like your hormones. Because if you ladies remember, like right after they're born, it's like you have no idea what day it is.

Speaker 3:

You have no idea what's going on, like you're bleeding, leaking, like it's just everything is out of funk and you're just trying to keep this baby alive and yourself and I just think we're not always like taught the right things and like I just feel like it's like our generation is the one to like talk about certain things. I just think we're kind of like given this baby like okay, figure it out yeah, yeah, and even, like you know, I'm someone who keeps it.

Speaker 4:

I like to say I'd like to keep it real, and so that's why we love you no no such thing. But like it's so, like straining even on your relationship Right, and oh yeah, we can have a whole episode about that and so like I don't, and with work, like I work for myself.

Speaker 4:

So like I was just in like this, like whirlwind of like getting my footing, we were moving, we, we sold our house. Um, while I was pregnant, I lived with my in-laws for nine months and we moved out when my son was three months old and we were renovating. It was just like crazy. Like so now I'm like okay, like this place is starting to finally feel like home and my son is starting to like sleep through the night and like me and my husband kind of like each other, you know, yeah, you know finally like trying to, you know, do better for myself, and I'm like okay, and that's just part of the process, it's wild.

Speaker 2:

No for sure.

Speaker 3:

Terrifying and fun and scary, and just like when you have one, you're like what happened? Like when you have more than one, you're just like does this ever end? Like are we ever going to get off the merry-go-round?

Speaker 4:

Yeah, and so I guess I say that all really to just because I guess there's a point where I can just like feel like I can just let myself go, and then it's not important to like give back to myself, but I know I was not being my best self. And then, as soon as I started to like make time for workouts again and, you know, meal prep my food again, I'm like okay, like I remember myself again. I still have those news. But you know, I made a human and we made all of us. You know we made these little perfect humans and so I'm giving myself grace. So it's just as part of the process.

Speaker 2:

It definitely, it definitely is. I think that I, as you were saying, that I was realizing like this is the first weekend in five weeks and in five weeks and yes, I've counted that Sage didn't wake up at 2 am and just like have a party for like Saturday night into Sunday. So the past few weekends I felt like a zombie and just haven't had energy to meal prep, to clean, to like set myself up for the week. And this is the first week that I feel like a human. So I'm realizing it's almost like a like.

Speaker 2:

It's a little bit like a trauma response, because when those things happen, my brain is like like today it's gonna suck and then tomorrow it's gonna suck and I'm gonna be like I just like go down the spiral of how things are gonna be terrible because I'm sleep deprived and anxious and blah blah. So I'm trying to find like a little thing that I can do that works. So like last week it was throwing a pasta salad together with things that I had like on my grocery list and chat GPT put it all together for me. Like I love that I can shut my brain off a little bit but still achieve this goal of like eating things that don't have me recovering from it for three days and it's a very tough balance, like it's a lot of mental gymnastics that goes into. Yeah, staying alive and keeping a human alive, yeah shree I know we talk, well, we talk every day.

Speaker 3:

But I know last week you were like I was in a funk, like you were saying. You were in a little funk also, jamie, for like all those years, but I was just, I think it was only period, I can't remember anyway so I was just like talking to shree about it and then she was like you know what she's like? I've been eating like little cuties and those things are bringing me so much joy and I was like a little thing, yeah, oh, and I was like it's like the little little thing.

Speaker 3:

She's like I just love my citrus fruit yeah, it's really it's making such a difference.

Speaker 2:

I because also, jamie, as you were talking, it's really cool for me to like connect with moms that are on a similar timeline yeah so the November babies because I'm like what's my kid doing, what's their kid like?

Speaker 2:

how are you feeling? I, up until this weekend, was like am I still like? Do I still have postpartum depression? Is it possible for it to last this long? Because it really does like it lingers, and then you have moments where it goes away and then you think you're in the clear and then it comes back and it's there for a few more weeks and so.

Speaker 2:

I think nutrition has also been helpful as a way for me to catch something, because if I'm downing like bagels and cream cheese like I'm on maternity leave, I'm probably depressed. If I can make myself a colorful meal, I might be doing a little bit better that day. So it's been helpful to gauge, like where I am mentally too, which is interesting.

Speaker 4:

Yeah, for sure. I mean, and when you think about it, when you're eating that colorful meal you're getting all those nutrients and vitamins in your system and there's no way that you're not going to feel like a little bit better from all that fiber and nutrition. You know it's gonna yes but I like what you're saying. You know you're kind of gauging it based off of like you're kind of being able to see how you're feeling, based off of what you're able to kind of put together that day or yes, and like the craving.

Speaker 2:

I don't know if that's like a universal, but you know that craving like if you're craving carbs, you probably need more energy If you're craving red meat. You're probably low on iron, like things like that. Just like tuning in a little more yeah.

Speaker 4:

Yeah.

Speaker 3:

Sugar, carbs, sleep. I know I've been wanting to like get into, like understanding, like my hormones, like women's hormones, better. I don't know, jamie, if you tie that into like your work with women, but Sheree and I have been like not going down rabbit holes but like looking at people who like study that and really trying to like understand. So we, sheree, told me about the Lively app I don't know if you've heard of it Like you track your cycle not to get pregnant, like you can if you want to be like I'm doing it for like my period and like it tells you like what cycle, like what phase of the cycle you're in and like what to do like in that cycle based on like your energy levels, yeah, and it like tells you what to eat, but I didn't like I find it so interesting and like I've noticed a difference.

Speaker 3:

Like have you tried to tie that in like the women that you work with, or do you do that for yourself? Because I'm like I need to find more women who do this so I can like feel so hard because I feel like we were never taught this. No, not at all at all.

Speaker 4:

Yeah, there's. There's a lot of different things. There's like seed cycling have you ever heard of?

Speaker 3:

yes, I've heard of that. Yeah, I don't. I was like that sounds complicated but like I've heard people that do it, they find like they found success with that yeah, you're like now.

Speaker 4:

Don't let me eat the wrong seeds in the wrong days like god forbid.

Speaker 3:

Like I ate an almond instead of a peanut, like well, that's what they do. So an almond instead of a walnut.

Speaker 4:

That's why I'm so angry yeah, um, but no, I actually have a calendar, like a little um physical calendar that that nice tracks like it kind of goes along with what you're saying, the phases of your cycle, and I always funny, I always like it kind of goes along with what you're saying, the phases of your cycle, and I always think it's funny. I always think, like it says Monday is like your day to chill and I'm like dude who has time to chill on a Monday, like relax and reset. I'm like I don't know sisters not, not so they, you know it's you take, you take what you need from that. But, um, when it comes to specific hormones, um, I don't specifically work with hormones I I partner with, like I can refer out to other people that nice, you do, that work I, you know it's. It's kind of I always think it's like a little bit funny, not fun, funny maybe, but like a lot of the symptoms, like let's say what, a lot of the times the symptoms that you might be having when you're having some sort of hormonal imbalance.

Speaker 4:

I mean there are some talking about seed cycling or you know if someone is vegan or vegetarian, but a lot of times the protocol is whole food based meals, you know, usually protein based, colorful, protein based, almost like the Mediterranean style meals. And yeah, we all know, we all like it's very intuitive, intuitive us for notes, for us to know what to eat. And so where I help people is like okay, so we know we should be eating fish, we know we should be eating some, uh, cucumbers, some mixed greens, things like that, mixed greens and uh, but what do we do with it? How do we make it delicious? How do we make it affordable? How do we make it something that the whole family can enjoy? That's my, that's my jam, that's what I like to. But when it comes to specifics, uh, there is something that that, uh, I don't know if you girls ever had. Uh, it's uh, there's a test that you can take that tests your blood and it can if you have certain food sensitivities.

Speaker 4:

Oh, okay, I haven't tried it, though I'll cat test and it's okay okay, interesting because they're very there can be very subtle food uh sensitivities like, for example, you know, almonds you may not be allergic to almonds. Oh, a slight sensitivity to almonds, and if you're someone who's drinking almond milk, to something like whole milk or skim milk because you want to go dairy-free, it might be, um, causing a negative effect versus you know, a positive effect. Yeah. So there are little things like that. That can, that can, okay, yeah.

Speaker 3:

No, I love that. Also, I know like some people when they go gluten free or like when they just like take out certain foods from, like, their diet, they notice like a huge difference, because some people if they eat gluten or something, it's like they're they're inflamed and they just feel like gross, but like if for like a week they don't eat anything gluten, like they feel fine and it's like they don't always need to go to the doctor to figure it out. They're just like more so trying to like listen to their body. So I think that's all connected and I'm just so fascinated by that yeah, like sleep, what hydration?

Speaker 4:

um, some whole foods, some. You know you want to reduce your stress as much as possible, as much as we can, right, yes, and. And yet, like these very basic things, that sure there are medications and everything plays its part and has its role.

Speaker 3:

Yeah.

Speaker 4:

But a lot of times we are overlooking the very basic common things that we can change on our own yeah, no, I love that.

Speaker 3:

And I know I've heard the people who have taken like food sensitivity tests like they come out they're allergic to like eggs or like I'm like no, that's, I was like I don't want to take the test.

Speaker 4:

Yeah, it's pretty interesting what you know, what can be even like your blood type. Like, do you know what your blood type is? I know, sheree, you probably heard me say that before.

Speaker 2:

I wish I knew I was like. Now that I think about it, I feel like I knew it at one point and I almost feel like it came up during, like, labor and delivery.

Speaker 4:

But oh yeah, it may have yeah, like you have to be what one of your parents is, and if both of your parents are the same, then you are that, but you have to be what one of your parents is.

Speaker 2:

Yeah interesting, that is so interesting does that tie into like how you? Does that tie into like inner workings, like how you digest?

Speaker 4:

oh my god like, yeah, um, yeah, so if um like eastern medicine, um, eastern medicine follows the blood type diet kind of blood type like we follow astrology. Yeah, so, like you know, they might find like a man who has o blood type more desirable versus like a man who has a blood. That's so interesting, yeah, so, yeah, it is pretty cool. Once you I have a whole book, I think it's by peter d.

Speaker 3:

Didn't d donato um book about the blood type diet and that is so fascinating and speaking of eastern medicine, I started acupuncture like six months ago and I love it, like my acupuncturist is amazing and she always I don't know exactly like the chart that she follows, but she said that I am an earth person, I think or something, but like something.

Speaker 3:

But like all of that ties into like how my horror scope is too, because something with like my low back and like my low body and I'm a Libra and like that. I don't know if that's just one sense, but like that, like Libra, like the Libra that I am, has like issues with the low body. Sometimes I'm like that is so crazy, but it's just so interesting. And like certain points of the body will like release certain things and like every time I come in she goes oh, your eyes look so like dim because I'm tired, but she's like when we're done session she goes. There's like light back in your eyes and I was like oh, thank you well thank you yeah, it's so cool.

Speaker 4:

I love, I love, like the combination. That's why I love holistic health and well. Yeah, so like it's very interesting to me as well.

Speaker 3:

I think, I love that.

Speaker 3:

It's very interesting to study and it's just like overwhelming because we weren't taught that obviously there's nothing wrong with medicine like I'm on medicine for things, and it's like nothing wrong with that but I just feel like that's like the first thing we think of over here and that's like how about we just maybe figure out if we're hydrating, sleeping and like eating like the stuff we're supposed to be eating, and like that all ties in. Like she had allergies, like because allergies are like really bad. I think the pollen's really bad, and the pollen was bad in jersey too but she would start going to acupuncture before she started practicing and she eventually like weaned herself off of her allergy medication because she didn't need it anymore. It's like they would just like hit like certain points every time she would go. Yeah, it is really cool. Yeah, I was like well, that's my goal. I'm not on medicine now, but like I still have allergies, I just, like, you know, fog it out because I don't want to take medicine yeah but.

Speaker 3:

But when she was like I don't have allergies anymore, I was like what? Like the first thing she told me at like my first session, I'm like, thank you, Like I want to be that.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I have. Um, I just don't want to forget our, would you?

Speaker 3:

Oh yeah.

Speaker 4:

We can end it with a, would you rather? Um, jayman, do you have anything else to say to the listeners or anything you want to share? Any shameless plugs? You know, it's like I said. It's kind of funny like things are coming full circle. So, um I, where are you girls located?

Speaker 3:

we're in maryland yes, that's cool. We're both like 30 minutes from each other yeah, um, yeah.

Speaker 4:

So I'm on the east coast, um in New Jersey, but local to South Jersey, you know. Obviously I have classes popping up, but I'm opening up the virtual world again. I kind of like what I?

Speaker 4:

because now things are um becoming very family integrated and if I'm anyone's interested in health coaching or any sort of that kind of work, then I'm here. The website is called oh how Healthy, and that's the website. That's where you can find me on social media and feel free to send me any questions that you might have. I'd be happy to help.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, we'll put all of your info in the show notes and like we'll tag you on social. But on social, but yeah, I love that. I would love like to see you more virtually yeah, like we already see you we've kept in touch but like I feel like next time we're in jersey we're going to let you know so we can all the kids hang out yeah, that'd be so fun, I would love, love.

Speaker 4:

I would like to get together and hang out, but every time I see your kids classes.

Speaker 2:

I'm like oh, I know it's such a good idea.

Speaker 4:

I was like my kids would be right there in the class I know I saw your, your social media post today and, uh, I was like you because you were. You were what took this kid to swim, oh yeah oh girl, your message you're like go moms. I'm like yeah yeah, I just.

Speaker 3:

I was like I have a message to share today, guys every weekend really yeah um, I texted my husband.

Speaker 2:

I was like I'm requesting 30 to 60 minutes to myself when you get home. I love it. It's a huge need. Of course you just need it. Yeah, it's much needed. Oh yeah, just after this, no nap day. But we got through it. We got through it. We did Okay. First one is would you rather have a rewind button or a pause button on your life?

Speaker 3:

Oh pause, oh pause. Yeah, you rather have a rewind button or a pause button on your life.

Speaker 4:

Oh pause, oh pause. Yeah, I don't want to rewind anything. I know, you know what I feel like. Reminding would be nice, but only third part. Watch the movie the butterfly effect. But I know, yes, I feel like. Could you imagine like I would go back to my 20 year old self and smack the shit on myself?

Speaker 2:

don't do that, don't make that choice yeah, but um, yeah, oh.

Speaker 4:

Would things end up the same way?

Speaker 3:

I don't know, I don't know I would just want to hit a pause, just like such a thing. It's like we have to do that every day. But rewinding I feel like, like, especially if you couldn't change anything, it would just be like such so traumatic just to like watch it happen, like your 20 year old self, just like you can't do anything about it, you don't want

Speaker 4:

to do that no one would have ever. You wouldn't listen to anyone like you know, you had to do some stuff. You did, you know. Yeah, that's how we got here great story, yeah, yeah, no, I would even take the pause button to like reorganize my closet and then resume. Thank you, love that amazing yeah cool, one hour cool.

Speaker 2:

I think I would pick pause too um. Would you rather always know the truth or be blissfully ignorant?

Speaker 3:

oh, no, no the truth.

Speaker 2:

I don't know.

Speaker 4:

I feel like I'm blissful, blissfully ignorant, to be honest I think I'm there too. My husband fills me in with the highlights of the world. I don't need to know. And if I can help, if I can support, if I can do my part, I'm there, but probably. Well, I mean, I guess it depends what it is.

Speaker 3:

I'm gonna say it depends. I want to be bookfully ignorant to certain things, like the things going on with the world. I'm like I don't want to hear about like another war breaking out or whatever, but like the truth, about like motherhood, that would have been nice but there's just certain things I feel like you have to walk through, like people, like people can tell you, like you're saying, like you wouldn't listen to anyone at 20, like you just have to go through it yourself.

Speaker 2:

Yeah but, I feel like I would have loved a heads up yeah, but like you don't want to be ignorant about things going on in your personal life either, yeah, right, yeah just on a bigger scale and not like so unaware, like I want to be aware enough that I know that I can't take all of that in all the time you know yeah, yeah, like I'm not, I don't sit around and watch the news, like I can't.

Speaker 3:

I'm like I can't really take all that in, especially becoming a mom you're like, oh no.

Speaker 4:

I can't do this. I can't even watch movies anymore, yeah.

Speaker 2:

I know I feel like Tawana. You said something. You were like my stomach, or like I was not built for this world, or like my stomach was not built for this world. I'm like yeah, yeah and.

Speaker 3:

I always say my co-worker is not built for this world because she is so empathetic, like yeah, she cries about everything.

Speaker 4:

Not like, it's just like, she just feels everything and I'm like, yeah, you were just not meant for this world girl, she's like you just gotta like, just stay as positive, blissfully ignorant, and just do your best and yeah, just to spread your light with the world. I know, that's all we can do.

Speaker 3:

Do you have?

Speaker 2:

one more, or was that a, I think? These are fun they are fine I was like I think I can get one more okay okay, um, yes, okay. Would you rather live a comfortable but boring life or a risky but exciting one?

Speaker 3:

I'm gonna say comfortable and boring. Now that I'm a mom, because I can't be out here like risking my life. I need to get home to my children yeah, I guess.

Speaker 4:

I mean they both kind of sound interesting, risky and what and what risky but exciting I mean, yeah, like life before kids, maybe a little bit more risky. Yeah, yeah, like I always wanted to do bungee jumping. I don't know if I missed it but, like well, I'm, I'm, I'm a, I'm a homebody, I am an introvert if you ask me, I'm probably looking towards like comfortable, you know, cozy and whatever boring. But yeah, I mean, I know that I need to, especially for the kid.

Speaker 3:

You know my kid needs to stay social, so I need to like be more like one thing, true, like we'll take you to the library, like that's a little risque for me yeah, yeah ours today was sitting in the panda express drive-thru and then waiting for a target drive-up order living on the edge.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, my house, that was exciting yeah, exactly, we got some sun whatever I think I'm gonna pick comfortable, but boring. Boring because when I got on that jet ski I was on it for maybe five minutes and was like done for the day, like my. I just I don't, I don't need it. I checked the box. You don't need it, who needs excitement?

Speaker 3:

We don't need it.

Speaker 4:

We have enough excitement going on, girl.

Speaker 3:

I know yes, well, thank you so muchie, yeah this is so you know for having me.

Speaker 4:

I'm really happy we can connect. I know it's like, I know we get on the calendar, but I'm happy we got this together yeah that's what moms do and we love you so much.

Speaker 3:

We miss you and we will be talking more and we'll let you know when the episode is out yes, hey.

Speaker 4:

Well, you girls keep doing your thing. I love how you keep making time for this, even though you both are busy and doing your thing good for you thanks girl, we try thanks for joining us and sharing about what you do of course. Thanks for having me and have a lovely rest of your afternoon you too talk to you soon thanks for listening bye all right, everyone.

Speaker 2:

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Speaker 1:

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