71: He Brought The Wawa Hoagie and Got Trauma (ft. Brandon Barber)

Labor is unpredictable, but we didn’t expect the aftermath to be the part that stuck with us most. Tajuana and Sheree sit down with Brandon, Sheree's hubby (and a very vocal newborn cameo) to unpack Bronson’s 28-hour birth story, from being stalled at three centimetres to a sudden shift where “hold on” is no longer an option. We talk coping tactics, what contractions feel like when time starts blurring, and why the “your second baby comes faster” promise can set you up for frustration.

We also get real about hospital dynamics: epidural placement stress, too many people cycling through the room, and how quickly communication breaks down when you’re exhausted and in pain. Then we move into the postpartum complications, including concerns about placenta infection, painful fundal checks, and having to endure procedures while you’re still processing that you just gave birth. We name the emotional weight of feeling dismissed, the questions you end up googling later because nobody explains what’s happening, and what it’s like for a partner to watch it unfold from the sidelines.

Finally, we zoom out to life with two kids and what “normal” looks like when you’re in the maternity leave bubble, juggling a toddler’s big feelings and a newborn’s needs. We lighten the mood with some zodiac talk, Sagittarius honesty, and the little marriage moments that keep you laughing when you’re running on fumes. If you’ve searched for real birth stories, postpartum recovery, hospital advocacy, or parenting two kids, this one is for you.

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Transcript

Welcome Back And Meet Brandon

SPEAKER_00 0:04

Welcome to Turn the Page Podcast.

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Sisters, best friends, and brunch enthusiasts.

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With relatable episodes that feel like you're chatting with two of your closest friends or sisters. Join us as we turn the page to different topics about losing yourself in motherhood, adulthood, anyhood.

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And finding yourself again through meaningful friendships, shameless piles of unread library books, and endless Amazon package deliveries. Real, honest, and a little bit chaotic.

SPEAKER_00 0:33

We talk about it all. So grab your favorite drink, put the kids to bed, lace up your sneaks or whatever you need to do and join us. We can't wait to connect with you. Hi guys, welcome back to a new episode of Turn the Page Podcast. This is co-host Tawana Page.

SPEAKER_01 0:49

This is your other co-host, Sheree Page Barber.

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And this is her husband, Brandon.

SPEAKER_01 0:54

Yes! Yes! Sweet first. I know I have we haven't done that intro in so long. But yes, we have two very special guests today. Our song's LaPurti.

SPEAKER_00 1:07

It's an absolute delight to hear you back on the mic, like with me. Yeah. And Brandon. It's an absolute delight to have you. And also, Bronson, I'm obsessed with you. You're welcome.

SPEAKER_01 1:19

Yeah, maybe switch arms because you guys are gonna hear his coos. And yeah. I tried. I've been feeding and rocking in Birmingham since 6 45, and he would fall asleep and just wake back up. So he's with us.

SPEAKER_00 1:32

You're fine.

SPEAKER_01 1:33

His sister's sleeping, so one down at least.

SPEAKER_00 1:36

Yeah, both of mine are awake, but you know, that's live.

SPEAKER_01 1:39

Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's what it is.

SPEAKER_00 1:41

Okay, guys.

This Or That And How We Cope

SPEAKER_00 1:43

So we're here.

SPEAKER_01 1:44

Yes. Yeah, I almost forget the structure. Could you pave the way?

SPEAKER_00 1:49

Yeah, so the solo episodes, guys, which Cherise will be dropping soon. Mine have been dropping when she's been on a hiatus. I haven't really been doing a structure with the solos, but when we are together and when we have a guest, unless Brandon counts as one, we do this or that and like rosebud thorn.

SPEAKER_01 2:06

Okay, yep. So I did some I got some this or that.

SPEAKER_00 2:10

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 2:12

Okay. So you guys are both gonna answer. Okay. Plan for the day or go with the flow.

SPEAKER_00 2:18

Plan for the day. I already know your answer, Brandon. Which is go with the flow.

SPEAKER_01 2:23

Yeah. Yeah. I I'd say 80% plan for the day, 20% go with the flow. So yeah. Cause yeah, I like to have like an idea of what we're doing, but then sometimes it doesn't happen and I get like annoyed because I don't like the change. It's like lack of structure. So I guess we like a plan.

SPEAKER_00 2:47

I get that.

SPEAKER_01 2:48

Yeah. Need space to process or need immediate resolution?

SPEAKER_00 2:54

I think I need space to process.

SPEAKER_01 2:56

What do you think?

SPEAKER_04 2:57

Immediate resolution.

SPEAKER_01 2:59

Yeah, I need space to process.

SPEAKER_04 3:02

Brandon or not let other problems transpire because you didn't fix the original problem.

SPEAKER_01 3:09

Yeah, but for me, it's like I need a moment to gather my thoughts because I usually don't have the words right away. And if I'm trying to address it, I'll just be talking in circles. I need to like figure out how I'm actually feeling.

SPEAKER_00 3:23

Agree.

SPEAKER_01 3:24

And something that I can figure out on my own or if I actually need to bring it to the other person.

SPEAKER_00 3:29

So agree.

SPEAKER_01 3:30

Yeah, but I'm not surprised by your need for media resolution. Okay. Last thing is one thing at a time or multitask.

SPEAKER_00 3:38

Obviously, I was born a multitasker.

SPEAKER_04 3:41

Multitask. If you know you have multiple things to do, why would you just do one at a time?

SPEAKER_01 3:46

I mean, and I figured you would say one thing at a time.

SPEAKER_00 3:49

It's an interesting take, Brandon. Is that like are you doing are you killing two birds and one stone?

SPEAKER_04 3:55

Yes, because time is valuable.

SPEAKER_01 3:57

Time is money, he said.

SPEAKER_04 3:59

Yes. It is.

SPEAKER_00 4:01

I mean, I can see him saying that. I've heard him say that as well.

SPEAKER_04 4:04

So so instead of going to three stores, you can try to buy all three in one.

SPEAKER_01 4:09

Well, but multitask in the sense of like, are you holding the baby while making dinner while feeding like that? That's what I think of when I think of or like listening to an audiobook while feeding a child.

SPEAKER_00 4:24

Or what's the word that I'm trying to think of a word that I'm gonna say that branded it in that sense? You're being like not logistical, but like practical efficient.

SPEAKER_01 4:36

To do the best work in the least amount of time or with like the least amount of like not effort, but like friction, needing to go out of your way. No tension, yeah. Friction. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 4:47

Okay. See, I like the different perspectives already, and we just started.

SPEAKER_01 4:51

Yeah, which so the way that I looked those up was like fire versus air. Because yeah, because I was like wait, am I air? I don't know that yet. Yeah, yeah, your air. Almost like a guess who is who kind of thing, based on the answers, but he threw me off with his, so that no one reacts. But yeah, the different perspectives is what I was going for. And that the segue kind of what we're going into. What do we want to start with? Either hold, please. Sure. Okay. Brandon as a December Sag as part of our react series. Pass me the bee.

SPEAKER_00 5:26

Or did you say I'm happy to be?

SPEAKER_01 5:29

No, you said pass me the bee, or our chaotic birth story. I don't know what do we ease in or end off with a palette cleanser.

SPEAKER_00 5:38

It's up to y'all. I was under the impression that we were going the route of life with two, but it has to start with his birth, so Yeah. It doesn't have to, but I'm saying, like, practically speaking. I mean, we could process it with the community, or you can have the person who was with you.

SPEAKER_01 5:54

Okay.

Bronson’s 28-Hour Labor Timeline

SPEAKER_01 5:55

Let's start there because you were there for part of it.

SPEAKER_00 5:58

I was there and that morning getting my back checked out, and yeah, I did see you in pain, but he was nowhere close to like being there yet.

SPEAKER_01 6:06

No.

SPEAKER_00 6:06

And I was really not happy about that.

SPEAKER_01 6:08

Same. I was expecting him to be there by that point. I don't know. I think I just key points, it was 28 hours, and I was yeah, I didn't tell you that.

SPEAKER_00 6:17

Maybe you did, but girl, you know I forget.

SPEAKER_01 6:20

The longest day of my life, truly.

SPEAKER_00 6:23

The longest days. Well, it was a day.

SPEAKER_01 6:26

Yeah. Well, yeah, being there too. I feel like I lost a day because we went in Tuesday night and then he didn't come until Thursday morning, like 1 15 a.m. So I kept thinking it was Wednesday, but it was Thursday. So that was a great start to life with two. I just, I don't know, quick sum. It was 28 hours. The Well I don't know. I had like key points. One of them was that I was listening to Rihanna and Justin Bieber. I just felt like that was really important.

SPEAKER_00 6:54

Okay, I'm sorry, side note. I know you and our cousins have been like a Biebes. Is that what you call yourself a Biebes fan for a while? It's not being a believer, but continue. Okay. I forgot that he was Canadian because I'm obsessed with everything. Hallelujah. I was looking up the lyrics. Forgot that he was Canadian, forgot that he was married, didn't know he had a kid. Is she pregnant again? And like he's looking like kind of good. I remember when he was like 12.

SPEAKER_01 7:20

No, yeah. Yeah, girl. First of all, have I not discussed him with you at all?

SPEAKER_00 7:25

We don't talk about modern day pop culture together.

SPEAKER_01 7:28

Like that's I'm obsessed with how much with our cousins.

SPEAKER_00 7:31

Like we talk about other things, but like you know, I'm not in on like the mix.

SPEAKER_01 7:36

Yes, he's married. He's been married for like eight years.

SPEAKER_00 7:38

I saw that yesterday.

SPEAKER_01 7:40

Love them together, love him. Did you see anything about Coachella? He recently had a Coachella set headliner. Okay.

SPEAKER_00 7:48

No.

SPEAKER_01 7:49

Yeah. Well, Brandon already knows. We've discussed that when he announces his tour, I will be doing everything. Listen, for him, I don't know, I say that now, but we have two kids. I use Klarna. Klarna, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 8:07

After For people that don't know, this is it's an inside joke.

SPEAKER_01 8:11

Okay, yes, but I was trying to move around this labor more because everyone said that that would help things move along faster. Everyone said second pregnancy or second baby would come faster. Both of those were lies. Sage was 16 hours, Bronson was 28.

SPEAKER_00 8:25

So Yeah, mine. Well, my second one was my second one, the birth was planned, like the C-section was planned. So I had a time.

SPEAKER_01 8:33

Yeah. So when you go, you they give you a scheduled time, and then it was pretty quick, if I remember correctly, right?

SPEAKER_00 8:40

Yeah, so it started at seven, and I had to be there like at five because they had to like you know, prep me and everything. And then you and Ron will both got there around the same time, and then you were just gonna wait in the waiting room, and they were like, Do you want to see if your sister can come in? I'm like, in the room? They were like, Yeah, I was like, sure if she wants to.

SPEAKER_01 8:59

Yeah, that was very that was a very interesting experience. It was pretty cool.

SPEAKER_00 9:03

I mean, they like get in and get out, and they were talking about what they were having for dinner and her plans for the weekend. It was different from RJ because RJ, it was like just me and Ronald, obviously, but also like it was my first, so it was like weird. And then like with my with Harrison, it was just like it was it just felt different. Like I smelled my burning skin, which I didn't smell the first time. Yes, that was weird. The second time around, I didn't even know they start it, and he's halfway out, and I'm like, Are you guys done? And she was like, Oh, like we're halfway done. I didn't even know they started yet.

SPEAKER_01 9:42

What like the opening or putting you back together?

SPEAKER_00 9:45

Like everything. I was just chilling. Obviously, you don't feel anything, so I didn't know what was going on. And then I they were like, You're gonna feel like you're like it's pressure, like you're having a hard time. Yeah, I mean, like that, but I didn't feel like that was hard yet.

SPEAKER_01 9:58

Interesting.

SPEAKER_00 9:58

But they did have to do the anesthesia twice, both with both boys, because I was like, I was just an epidural. Yeah, well, they numb you like they obviously I guess they numb you from the chest down because yeah.

SPEAKER_01 10:09

I because that was the other thing I wanted to share was that the the nurse told me she was like, if you get the epidural, it might help you relax and progress further. Um, that was not the case for me. And both times I had to get the epidural put in twice because I could not still during the contractions. And the Enoch. No, like I was having contractions while they were putting the epidural in. Yes. Because it's like a 15-20 minute process, and the contractions were like every three or five minutes. So they were like processing still like it's prepping you.

SPEAKER_00 10:46

Like the actual shot takes two seconds.

SPEAKER_01 10:48

Well, you would think I don't know what they're doing there, but they're digging around and she was like getting annoyed with me because I couldn't sit still.

SPEAKER_00 10:56

I couldn't sit still, and I also have to like keep hunching over because I was like, How do you want me to do it? And I was like, I can still feel my leg, like if that's not normal.

SPEAKER_01 11:04

She was like, curl up like a shrimp.

SPEAKER_04 11:06

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 11:07

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 11:08

And put your chin to your chest. Yes. And like then, poke your head up.

SPEAKER_01 11:12

And and sit still.

SPEAKER_04 11:13

What are you talking about? Hunch over and pull your chin up.

SPEAKER_00 11:16

It was like said, what are you talking about? It's I don't know. It was just, I don't know. It's just like birth stories are so widely different. It's just amazing to me.

SPEAKER_01 11:25

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 11:26

Even like with the two, like with Sage and Bronson, like, even two different experiences. Same same mother, like same yeah, it's like both vaginal, both T-section, two very different experiences. And with Harrison, I I was never asleep, but I the anesthesia was wearing off. I felt like I had like I was itching my like I felt like I did meth. Yes. My whole body was itching.

SPEAKER_01 11:48

I had itching this time around too, and I asked I asked the nurse, like, is this normal? And she was like, Well, something, something. I was like, Well, my sister told me she had itching with hers, so I'm just gonna go with that. I'm just gonna go with that. What are you talking about?

SPEAKER_00 12:01

Then with RJ, remember I was freezing, I was shivering.

SPEAKER_01 12:04

Did you have the shake?

SPEAKER_00 12:06

No, not the shakes, but I was just I was just cold. I was just I don't remember that. I know everyone has different reactions to anesthesia, even if it's like the same one.

SPEAKER_01 12:14

Yeah, well, because it makes your blood pressure drop. My blood pressure dropped. Why didn't you know that? So I wonder if that's why it made you cold. Yeah, so I got it to try to move things along, and I was looking at a recap of everything. I feel like I was at three centimeters for literally like a day, 24 hours. Literally. Like I went three cervical checks. Nope, you're still at three. That is the worst. Nurses come and go.

SPEAKER_00 12:38

Like when they start doing that in the doctor at 30 weeks, it is so uncomfortable.

SPEAKER_01 12:44

Yeah, not fun.

SPEAKER_00 12:46

It's not, but I just know that I could not sleep that night, and neither could mommy, and I kept like looking at my phone, and then finally Brandon came through and texted me all the stats, and I was like, Yes.

SPEAKER_01 12:58

For Sage or for Bronson?

SPEAKER_00 13:00

For Bronson. Oh, really? It was like four o'clock in the afternoon. I was awake.

SPEAKER_01 13:04

Yeah, you got That's right. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 13:06

Texting me, he was like play by play. I was like, Yes.

SPEAKER_01 13:10

Cause I kept asking him, like, did you text people? And he said no, but I guess you texted like the important part.

SPEAKER_04 13:16

I always tell you no, just because no.

SPEAKER_01 13:19

Well, yeah. I'm trying to think to of I feel like they were like pretty major. Well, first of all, Brandon has a video. Last time with Sage, he took a video of like me actually pushing her out, but we did not get there this time around because there are signs that say no video recording, no live record. Yeah, but you weren't gonna listen to that. You were gonna do it anyway.

SPEAKER_04 13:41

Right. But this time was completely different.

SPEAKER_01 13:44

Yeah, it was yeah. Because the shift from eight to ten centimeters, I swear happened within like 20 minutes. I remember that happens. And the doctor was like, I'll be back in 15 minutes. And I was like, really? Because I feel like I need to push now. He came back 25 minutes later, so I had to hold this sucker in. The second that he like got down there and got prepped, I was like, Okay, like I can't hold him in anymore. Yeah, so it was like two

Epidural Stress And Surprise Observers

SPEAKER_01 14:10

pushes, two minutes. He didn't even have his gloves shit all the way on. Brandon said he was taking his time. He was like, I thought I was gonna have to get down there and pull him out. Yeah, two minutes. So this time was definitely very different. So I think the biggest thing for me after was apparently my placenta had an infection, and they didn't know until they took it out.

SPEAKER_00 14:31

You had an infection from the placenta.

SPEAKER_01 14:33

No, like my placenta was infected.

SPEAKER_00 14:35

How does that happen?

SPEAKER_01 14:37

I have no idea. They didn't explain anything to me. All of this that I know is from Google. I hate that. One of my many grievances. I hate that. Yeah, and I had to get you know, did you no, probably not because they cut you, but the fundle do they push on you after seeing sex?

SPEAKER_00 14:52

I think Steph was talking about that, but no, because when since they're already in there, they just take it out.

SPEAKER_04 14:57

First of all.

SPEAKER_01 14:58

Please, please share.

SPEAKER_04 15:00

Why don't we go back to the beginning?

SPEAKER_00 15:02

Of what?

SPEAKER_04 15:02

Where you go in and I come in and my wife's already in a damn hospital gown.

SPEAKER_01 15:07

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 15:08

They don't get any any there's no preparation time.

SPEAKER_01 15:12

For you, yeah. That's unfortunate. Share. They called me back and they were like, we'll call him back after you're all set, essentially.

SPEAKER_00 15:21

Oh, the room that the room that mommy sent me.

SPEAKER_01 15:23

Like labor and delivery.

SPEAKER_00 15:25

Oh, yeah, yeah, okay.

SPEAKER_04 15:26

Right, but we don't get any prep. You come back, she's already in a hospital gown with with the IV in.

SPEAKER_01 15:31

Yeah. I'm trying to remember if it was like that last time.

SPEAKER_04 15:35

No.

SPEAKER_01 15:35

It wasn't. You came back like from jump.

SPEAKER_04 15:38

I had time to to speak to you, and they said, okay, put the hospital gown on in this road.

SPEAKER_01 15:44

I don't I I mean Sage's birth was all a blur, if I'm honest.

SPEAKER_04 15:48

But then we had the the the the nice nurses.

SPEAKER_01 15:52

Yeah, they were lovely. They were the best part of that shitty experience.

SPEAKER_00 15:56

That's flip-flopped because with RJ, I didn't like my nurse.

SPEAKER_01 16:00

Oh, that's right.

SPEAKER_04 16:01

Did they make up labor positions? Answer yes or no.

SPEAKER_01 16:05

Well, she has got a C section.

SPEAKER_04 16:08

So no, right?

SPEAKER_01 16:10

Correct.

SPEAKER_04 16:10

He didn't have student nurses come in and say, Okay, I've never seen this before. One nurse came in and said, Oh, now I see what you're talking about when she's fully exposed, with on her back, legs up, spread apart.

SPEAKER_01 16:23

Yeah. What? And I had a student nurse the whole time, and she said, Can I try giving her the catheter?

SPEAKER_00 16:29

No, that remember that's what happened to me with with the first one. So that's like a thing? I don't know, but it was like she like had someone else do it, and it was like they were like learning how to do it, and they had to do it a few times, and that is like the most uncomfortable thing ever.

SPEAKER_01 16:45

Yeah, it is.

SPEAKER_04 16:46

It was a Towson student that put in her catheter.

SPEAKER_01 16:49

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 16:50

There were students three nurses there when she was putting in the epidural. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 16:56

There were multiple nurses coming in to see the the one where my my legs were hanging off the bed to try to get him to drop.

SPEAKER_04 17:02

No, this is the the pose that's called the come and get me. That's what it looked like.

SPEAKER_01 17:06

Yeah, because he wouldn't drop. So she was like, We can try this thing that we don't normally do once you have the epidural, but we'll give it a shot. And she was like, Do you mind if I bring some nurses in to show them like that it's possible to do after you have an epidural? So they came in and they were like, Okay, interesting.

SPEAKER_04 17:23

The male version, gosh. The male version is to put both hands on my hips and just fully expose myself. Yeah, perfectly. Because that's what she was doing.

SPEAKER_01 17:31

Yeah, their legs were off the bed. But that's what got him to drop, I think.

SPEAKER_04 17:36

Yeah, but you couldn't see the people coming in, bro. Like that, that's like flat. Imagine you just hear people like, oh, now I see it. You can't see who's you're looking at the ceiling.

SPEAKER_00 17:49

Yeah, I was. Okay, so we're not gonna drop the hospital's name in here because, like, whatever.

SPEAKER_04 17:54

But like, I feel like that was Okay, I can't I can't rearrange the words.

SPEAKER_01 17:59

You speel unless you listen. Yeah, I mean, I agree with that because I do have a lot of big feelings about how they handle things.

SPEAKER_04 18:06

How are your neighbors?

SPEAKER_00 18:08

Mine were friends.

SPEAKER_04 18:10

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 18:11

Yours, right, Cherie? She was giving birth.

SPEAKER_04 18:14

Yes. They were multiple. The first one was the first one was loud enough to where I was like, okay, I didn't want to bring any attention to it because as a as the husband, I'm like, okay, baby, there's somebody getting killed next door.

SPEAKER_01 18:26

Literally screaming funny.

SPEAKER_04 18:27

I don't I don't want to bring that sort of energy to to our delivery, right? So I had to ignore the first one, act like I didn't hear her screaming through the walls. Right. And then of course, when it happened again, I need to document. I said, okay, baby, I like I said she needs the experience just like me, but she's focused on having a contraction. So I press record and put my phone up to the wall, and I have the audio that I will let you listen to the next time that you are here.

SPEAKER_01 18:51

Yeah, he loves that's that's his one token from because last time he had so much more. That's his one thing. Everybody, listen, let's do this. She's literally screaming.

SPEAKER_00 19:00

Three women came in to see her after she gave birth.

SPEAKER_01 19:04

No, they came in after me and gave birth all within the span that I was there. Three women gave birth.

SPEAKER_04 19:09

I had the audio of her giving birth for like literally. Sad that it sounds like she was alone. Yeah, that's but the nurse was like, Oh, great job. He's here, whatever, whatever.

SPEAKER_01 19:17

So Yep, you can hear it all. But she one one said, What's happening?

SPEAKER_04 19:22

Yes, it was it was wild. Yeah, so I knew I knew that we were gonna have a crazy experience because I just knew that that was gonna and that was early.

SPEAKER_01 19:30

Yeah, that was early.

SPEAKER_00 19:32

I had for the first one, it was a Latino woman who was like helping me breastfeed, and she was just so like spicy and feisty, and she was from like the Bronx. What else? I can't remember. That is crazy, that is hilarious.

SPEAKER_04 19:48

Yeah, did you have to take any pills?

SPEAKER_00 19:51

Gosh, yeah, like for pain.

SPEAKER_04 19:54

Via what? How how did it get better? Okay, uh so these she had to take four pills. Yeah, and they had to be taken anally.

SPEAKER_00 20:05

They do that the so this was you he wants to make his appearance on the podcast.

SPEAKER_01 20:12

He jumped to the end because this was after with the the fundal massages, and because I had the infection, they had to manually remove yeah, like literally go in and pull stuff out because my body wasn't doing it.

SPEAKER_04 20:25

First of all, they say we have to do a fundal massage, Lady A.

SPEAKER_01 20:29

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 20:30

Right. Then Lady A proceeds to push down on her stomach with such force that I'm ready to punch the lady.

SPEAKER_01 20:37

Yeah, yeah, because I was screaming, and you know me, I'm pretty subdued. I was tears.

SPEAKER_04 20:42

I was screaming. And he said, Please don't do it again.

SPEAKER_01 20:45

Yeah, I said stop. I moved her hand all over my side. I was like, please stop. This don't do that again.

SPEAKER_04 20:50

Unpleasant individual. Nope, I don't want to say it. She was my first appearance.

SPEAKER_02 20:55

You want something welcome back.

SPEAKER_04 20:58

She was very unpleasant, did not listen, and do it again.

SPEAKER_00 21:02

She did it again after you said no.

SPEAKER_04 21:04

Yeah, she said, it's gonna I know, I know, it's gonna hurt. Yeah, she pushes down again. I'm sorry, says, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, right? And then says, Okay, um something like I'll be right back because we're gonna have to do it again in a couple minutes. Right. She leaves, another nurse comes in and starts doing it.

SPEAKER_02 21:20

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 21:21

She's pressing on the stomach and says, I thought you said it was a negative one. She says, Well, there might be a plus one. She's on it again.

SPEAKER_01 21:27

Yeah. Like how high your uterus is, because it's supposed to shrink back to and mine wasn't shrinking, so they had to manually remove like tissue essentially to make it shrink down. Otherwise, then you can end up with like retained yeah, yeah, and like, yeah. So they were like, We can give you some pain meds. The amount of medication that I was on, I don't even know what was in the epidural fentanyl, whatever it is.

SPEAKER_00 21:53

I had I looked it up.

SPEAKER_01 21:54

I think it's yeah, it is fentanyl.

SPEAKER_00 21:57

But I'm like, Yeah, what

SPEAKER_01 22:00

Yeah, and with this process, I had two rounds of delauded. Like I was I was nodding out. I could not even like keep my eyes open answering their questions. It's just and she yeah had to medicate it. Like and then she said, I have to put these meds in like upper butt to help you.

SPEAKER_04 22:18

That's not what she said. She said we're putting this in anal, right? Yeah. She's already in pain and distress because the lady is scooping blood drops out of her vagina. Yeah. With bloody fingers, right?

SPEAKER_00 22:30

So she says after he came out of you?

SPEAKER_04 22:32

Yes.

SPEAKER_01 22:33

So this was an hour after I gave it to you. She says, and I thought I was done. I said, I thought I was done.

SPEAKER_04 22:38

The lady's scooping, right? And I I'm right there, so I see it. She's scooping.

SPEAKER_01 22:42

Trigger warning everybody.

SPEAKER_04 22:43

And she's like, I have to put these pills in. She's laying on her back. Can I see them? With bloody fingers, she holds them up like this to you. Like, I'm you.

SPEAKER_01 22:51

And like the restingest bitch face you've ever seen. Like, are you kidding me? Kind of. Like, are you really asking?

SPEAKER_04 22:57

Yes, her face was the resting B face.

SPEAKER_01 22:59

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 22:59

I could have slapped it away she held them pills up.

SPEAKER_01 23:01

Yeah. Cause I wanted to see.

SPEAKER_04 23:03

For example, she's ready to put them in down here. Yeah. But she said, Can I see him? She pulled them up so fast, like, and I was like, Yeah, yeah. Four of them.

SPEAKER_01 23:12

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 23:12

Is it supposed to like help pass anything?

SPEAKER_01 23:15

Was to help with the contractions to like get all the blood out because they had to keep coming back in and checking. And they were like, if you can't, they said they were going to do it one more time, and we looked it up, and we were like, We can ask for an ultrasound, like, do an ultrasound to make sure there's nothing still in there.

SPEAKER_04 23:30

And she was like, She rolled her eyes and basically said, The ultrasound is not going to work. We need to do the funnel massage.

SPEAKER_01 23:36

And so they did it again after I asked them not to. They did it two more times.

SPEAKER_04 23:40

Basically, yeah, the lady A went back into the nurse's room and was like, sure, that lady in

Placenta Infection And Postpartum Procedures

SPEAKER_04 23:45

there is whining and crying about the funnel massage. Somebody else needs to go in there and do it. And that's why we got another nurse because she said I'll be right back in a few minutes.

SPEAKER_01 23:53

Yeah. So the issue that I have with again, they who shall not be named was like a lot of it felt very racially fueled, in my opinion. Like my pain was not taken seriously. Like it seemed to them like they thought I was overreacting. Which again, you guys know me. I don't just scream and cry for no fucking reason. Like I'm in pain. And then they didn't communicate anything with me. Everything was like an issue, it felt like. So yeah, after I pushed him out, I'm like about to eat my Walla Hoagie. He left at two in the morning to get me a Wawa Hoagie. I was about to eat it, and they said, no, sorry, because you might have to go into surgery to get these removed. So I hadn't eaten in like 30 hours.

SPEAKER_00 24:36

So you're doped up, you're doped up on fentanyl, you're hangry.

SPEAKER_01 24:40

You laid in bed for like four days. Yeah. You laid in bed in four days. And this bitch had the nerve to write in her note patient sitting upright in bed eating cheese puffs. Like, why is that relevant? Why is that important? You bitch. Yeah, so it was a lot of that.

SPEAKER_04 24:56

Well, before that, before he came, and it was time for delivery. Why were there 10 nurses in the room?

SPEAKER_01 25:04

Ten nurses, and you said one of them rolled her eyes at the doctor.

SPEAKER_04 25:08

Why were there 10 nurses?

SPEAKER_00 25:10

Why were they like student nurses? Was it crazy?

SPEAKER_01 25:13

No, they were all like pretty well-established nurses.

SPEAKER_04 25:16

She says to him, I feel like I need to push.

SPEAKER_01 25:19

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 25:20

He says, Well, you need to hold on as a ganache.

SPEAKER_01 25:22

He said, Try not to.

SPEAKER_04 25:24

When I look down to my right, I see Bronson's head. Yeah. Full of hair.

SPEAKER_01 25:29

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 25:30

Hanging out of her vagina.

SPEAKER_01 25:31

I could see it too because I was right under the light. I looked up and I could see his hair.

SPEAKER_04 25:35

So I was like, I'm not reactive. I'm proactive. So I was prepared to get gloves on and catch him because I thought, I don't know this process. When he says I can't hold him in, and I see his head.

SPEAKER_02 25:47

To me, I think it's about to come out.

SPEAKER_04 25:48

You're dropping an egg on the on the kitchen floor. You know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_02 25:51

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 25:52

I don't deliver babies. I don't know how it's gonna cut. I don't know how it's gonna come out. Yeah, it's gonna be slimy and you know what I mean.

SPEAKER_01 25:57

Well, you know, his shoulders kind of stop holding.

SPEAKER_04 25:59

It's gonna be a soldier attached to it.

SPEAKER_00 26:00

Yeah, I think I don't think they will just plop out because you have to get their shoulders out, right?

SPEAKER_01 26:04

Shoulders, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 26:06

So so his gloves weren't even on yet, Tawana.

SPEAKER_01 26:08

I said, I feel like I need to push. She said, try not to. And I said, I can't. Like, I need you to help me at this point just get him out because like I could feel everything.

SPEAKER_04 26:17

It looked to me as if it's the same as if you never put on a condom.

SPEAKER_01 26:21

Like you just fumbling with his gloves.

SPEAKER_04 26:24

You don't know how to roll it down, you you put it on upside down. That's what he was doing.

SPEAKER_00 26:28

Yeah. Yeah. I was like, this is nervous. I'm almost stepping, I'm almost stepping. I've never worn gloves before, sorry.

SPEAKER_01 26:33

I truly like I bet his hands were sweaty because I understand.

SPEAKER_04 26:37

Like you're not supposed to touch the outside, so he had to kind of like blow into it to puff it up before. But he had mastered that. It looked like whoever the like he he he didn't master that. He didn't he skipped that class.

SPEAKER_01 26:48

Well, and when I said he said try not to, you said one of the nurses rolled her eyes.

SPEAKER_04 26:53

Well, no, this was because his gloves weren't on yet. He said not yet.

SPEAKER_00 26:57

Let me get my gloves over my sweaty hands.

SPEAKER_04 27:00

Right, but the chick behind him looked to the two nurses with the at the heating pad table.

SPEAKER_00 27:04

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 27:05

I looked over at them, they looked at the nurse that was to the that was behind him. Yeah. Then that's when I saw she rolled her eyes, then that's when everybody got together. Yeah I saw five people say, like, my God, I can't believe he just said that. Yeah. And I read that. Now at the same time, I'm not trying to communicate that to you with somebody hanging out of your vagina.

SPEAKER_01 27:23

I know. But you told me right after, you're like, we gotta talk.

SPEAKER_04 27:27

But I'm looking, because I see him, you, and three people this way. And I saw the her roll of eyes and I looked over, like, who did she roll her eyes at? I'm like, okay, I look to see what they did. I'm like, oh my goodness. Well, this is a damn TV show. I could have recorded it, and you would have been like, that was crazy.

SPEAKER_02 27:41

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 27:42

That's why I wanted to get my body cam thing. But when I saw the signs, I was like, I don't, I don't want to. Like, is this your first rodeo set?

SPEAKER_01 27:50

Yeah, but like you see influencers. In fact, we I have an influencer that I saw that gave birth at the same hospital that we did. Like, people record. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 27:59

You would have went wild.

SPEAKER_01 28:00

She they live in the same town you live in.

SPEAKER_02 28:02

Are you serious? You've got to text me offline.

SPEAKER_01 28:05

I didn't see them, but like I could tell from the background of the hospital, and then I saw the little water bottle that they give you.

SPEAKER_00 28:13

What year? Like the same like last month?

SPEAKER_01 28:16

Like literally a month before we were there.

SPEAKER_00 28:18

You've got to text me after we get off here.

SPEAKER_01 28:20

Yeah, yeah, I will. I will. But yeah, I mean people record.

SPEAKER_00 28:25

Wait, also, time out. Where was uh Sherry and all of this? Brandon, where was your mom and all of this?

SPEAKER_01 28:30

That's right. Because we kept texting her. Sorry, we're watching the monitor. We kept texting her, like, I'm still at eight. I'm still at like giving her updates and then eventually no, I said I'm still at three, and then when I hit eight, we she was like I'll be in 20 minutes. Yeah, I told her to come. So luckily she got there quickly because she was only there for maybe like 15 minutes before I started pushing.

SPEAKER_00 28:55

Okay, did she have anything to say about like the rolling of the eyes and just like the audience that was there?

SPEAKER_01 29:01

I think she was pretty locked in to me.

SPEAKER_04 29:03

No, she was she was locked in to be like, she was like helping me breathe and like rubbing back and I'm looking at everybody because I didn't seen 50 people come in and look to stand around. So I need to I need to know what's going on. And remember, as the husband, you're there, but you're not there. They come in. Yeah, how you doing? And how you doing? Like that's it. So that's true. Um if I'm uninstalled uninterested, they wouldn't even talk to me.

SPEAKER_02 29:26

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 29:27

I'm a male and two, I'm black.

SPEAKER_01 29:30

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 29:30

If I come in and I got my hair done the whole time, they're not even saying nothing to me.

SPEAKER_01 29:34

Yeah, that is very true. Which is why I wanted him to share because I feel like we don't ever hear like that perspective of things and what it was like. Like, what is it like to see that and watch that? I know it's like for me, you know what's like for you, but what's it like to be the support person in that? I don't know if I could do it. You don't have a choice.

SPEAKER_04 29:51

I mean, but I mean, the only good part is when we get to leave the fucking hospital. That is really the best.

SPEAKER_00 29:57

I feel like you were there for like a week.

SPEAKER_01 29:59

Uh we were there for five days total.

SPEAKER_00 30:01

That's a no.

SPEAKER_04 30:02

Like that's a first to the bag hurts. And I keep trying to tell you laid in bed for four days. And lay in bed right now for four days. I got a needle in my spine.

SPEAKER_00 30:12

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 30:13

And I ended up with I had spinal headaches for six days after. Oh, I heard that happens too with epidurals. Terrible. Terrible. You want some ice chips or popsicle?

SPEAKER_04 30:22

We have apple cranberries.

SPEAKER_01 30:24

Yeah, I couldn't eat. They were like, you can have ice chips, you can have ginger ale. Like, can I have like sustenance? Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 30:31

So you're gonna say we out. I'm like, how do you out?

SPEAKER_01 30:34

She offered me the popsicles and then they were out.

SPEAKER_04 30:36

You don't want to walk around the wing B or whatever it's called. Because a vending machine, I know that's full.

SPEAKER_01 30:41

But I feel like you were like in your element, at least with Harry. I know it was hard because you had to do it by yourself, like because it was COVID. Or no, not not COVID, because he had to go back home to RJ. But yeah, you were like, I'll take a turkey sub, I'll take like you were like loving it.

SPEAKER_00 30:56

RJ, I got like he got me Chick-fil-a after, and like I didn't I couldn't even eat it because I was like, didn't have an appetite. They told me to like sip on broth because you

When Care Feels Dismissive

SPEAKER_00 31:05

know they were just all up in there at first, and I was like, I have no appetite. And then with Harry, yeah, I think yes, and then I feel like we both commented, you mean or me and Sheree that like the food like wasn't that bad from the hospital.

SPEAKER_01 31:20

Yeah, it wasn't that bad. The breakfast was pretty good.

SPEAKER_00 31:22

I know, and I was like, Yeah, okay. Yeah, but and also it was different because he was home with RJ, and also because we didn't have the nursery, it was still closed.

SPEAKER_01 31:34

That's right.

SPEAKER_00 31:35

With RJ, they had the nursery.

SPEAKER_01 31:37

They kept offering that to us, but I didn't understand what they were saying. They were like, if you want us to take him for like three hours or something, I was like, What? Like no. So he just stayed in there the whole time.

SPEAKER_00 31:49

I mean, yeah, that's what Harry did.

SPEAKER_01 31:51

But also But you were by yourself, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 31:53

Well, yeah, but also I had to get an IV like a million times. Were you there for that? When the doctor they have this like machine where they can like find your veins.

SPEAKER_01 32:02

I wasn't there for yours, but I had to get one too. Yeah, do you remember that with stage? The screen, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 32:07

Like my arm was black and blue, like it looked like I had like shot up.

SPEAKER_01 32:12

Yeah, yeah. And then they're like, Well, I can't find a vein, so we'll just put it in your freaking hand. What am I supposed to do?

SPEAKER_00 32:19

I had my hand with RJ too, and I'm like, I no, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 32:23

So on the way out, yeah, we're ready to go. And I say, Um, is somebody gonna come remove the IV? Like, nobody removed your IV yet?

SPEAKER_01 32:31

No, because she said, Are you guys ready to go? And I said, Yeah, we're just waiting for the nurse to come discharge us, and she was like, Oh, okay, like she thought we were just chillin'.

SPEAKER_00 32:39

That also takes forever. Like, yeah, yes, pronounce it.

SPEAKER_01 32:42

But she discharged four people before me. I was like, I guarantee I've been here for at least two days longer than they. Yeah, they were. We could hear that I had to close the door because they were like at the nurse's station talking shit about us. I was like, this is ridiculous. They were like, Don't they know that they have to wait to be discharged? I was like, Yeah, that's literally what we're doing. We're waiting to be discharged, like you assholes. Yeah, and then they were like, Well, they just have to wait. Like, we just we yeah, so I closed the door. Right. And what else can we do at this point? Because if I leave, then you're like, flight risk, yeah, room, whatever, whatever is on the move. So no.

SPEAKER_00 33:20

And like they set the alarm on.

SPEAKER_01 33:21

Yeah. So yeah, I feel like those were like the major things. It was pretty traumatic for me.

SPEAKER_00 33:26

Traumatic and awful, it was unnecessary.

SPEAKER_01 33:30

Yeah, but we're here. No, they definitely dropped a few balls in that.

SPEAKER_00 33:38

I like the nurse that was there when I was there.

SPEAKER_01 33:40

She was the best, she was my favorite. They were all great, but she really was like there for the worst of it for me, at least like labor-wise. The one after her was great too, because yeah, it was all pretty much.

SPEAKER_00 33:54

The name of the nurse that helped me breastfeed with RJ, her name was Carmen.

SPEAKER_01 33:58

Yes, love that.

SPEAKER_00 34:00

She was such a car.

SPEAKER_01 34:02

Yes.

SPEAKER_00 34:02

It's just so many. And I can't even imagine. I know we both didn't do like birth pictures, but you know how people come into the hospital and do like birth photos in the room. I'm like, I can't even imagine.

SPEAKER_01 34:15

No. And you're in the most memorable state.

SPEAKER_00 34:18

The price.

SPEAKER_01 34:19

But yeah, that too.

SPEAKER_00 34:20

Exactly. It's just like I'm gonna pretend to be happy because like I am, but like I'm bleeding.

SPEAKER_01 34:25

Yeah, and I'm like in pain and uncomfortable and out of it.

SPEAKER_00 34:29

Yeah, it's just I don't know.

SPEAKER_01 34:32

Crazy.

SPEAKER_00 34:33

Did they also see you off of the door saying, like, have a good life?

SPEAKER_01 34:36

She like walked us out with Sage. I feel like I got wheeled out, but she like walked us out and she kept walking ahead of me and then looking back, I was like, You can like I need to take my time, like you can go. It's not somewhere to be.

SPEAKER_00 34:49

I know, right? Yeah, so what if you're obviously like no one likes the hospital. I was so excited to come home too and just get integrated. So now that's like the segue to the second part. How has it been with life with two? We both have two.

SPEAKER_01 35:05

I don't feel like we're in real life yet.

SPEAKER_00 35:08

Because it's maternity leave, so it's like a bubble.

SPEAKER_01 35:10

Yeah, and it's still part one of maternity leave. Like he goes back to work soon, and that is when it's gonna be like a little more real, and then when I go back to work, I'm gonna be real real. But I think it's just I said the first day we got home because we came home, Sage had a cold and was like all over here, and I was like, Yeah, two kids feels like ten. It felt like ten at that point. So yeah, yeah, sorry. Yeah, so it's an adjustment, but you know, things are coming along. And Sage is loving her brother. She's obsessed. We have to be like, yeah, like give him some space.

SPEAKER_00 35:49

I love

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SPEAKER_00 35:50

it.

SPEAKER_01 35:50

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 35:51

He seems to be the baby seems to be adjusting well the womb.

SPEAKER_01 35:55

Yeah, he's pretty chill right now. I feel like though, because this I guess like for the zodiac portion of things, Sage, yes, he's very like chill right now. It seems like he's pretty grounded, but he's literally five weeks old. Sage lives up to being a Sagittarius in my mind. Like she is a little fireball, full of energy, full spunk, full of like, yeah. So um, I don't know if you feel the same for RJ and Harry.

SPEAKER_00 36:25

If you feel you know that I literally only know my sign inside and out. I don't know anybody else's.

SPEAKER_01 36:33

Yeah, but you we have talked about RJ being like loyal as a cancer. Harry, I feel like we haven't talked about much as a Gemini, which is interesting.

SPEAKER_00 36:43

I don't know, maybe he just personalities Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 36:55

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 36:56

It's just crazy because RJ looks just like me, spit him out, spit Harriet looks just like his dad, but they both act like the other. Like Right, what is happening?

SPEAKER_01 37:08

I feel like that's true. Sage looks like me, but I always think she acts like Brandon, or at least what I would imagine he was like at that age. Yeah, because she's not anything like I expected for a girl.

SPEAKER_00 37:21

Yeah, for sure. But um I was just saying because I recorded, I told you the solo episode for ADHD earlier, guys, which will come out soon. Yes, but I did some notes before that and I was reading it, and it literally was like talking about like your dad having like dad the dad having it, and it was like you are the same person. I was like, Oh my gosh, and I literally like didn't even plan this, but I was just like, what an honor to have his traits. I was like, I'm obsessed with the man, so if anything, it's an honor to have like these same like symptoms and traits because I was like, We are the same person, what an absolute honor.

SPEAKER_01 38:00

Yeah, yeah. I th what's interesting though is I feel like you there's a little bit of overlap with our mother as well, which is why I think we guys are heads, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 38:11

Well, so I mean we'll talk about this on a different episode, like when we get back together, or like to do like a part two of that, I guess.

SPEAKER_01 38:17

Normal, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 38:18

Yeah, but it's like a lot

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SPEAKER_00 38:20

of the things that I used to mask the symptoms turned into new issues, i.e., anxiety, depression, or whatever.

SPEAKER_01 38:26

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 38:27

But I was like, oh my gosh, we are the same person. And I was like, everyone has always said that like I look like him, like you too, like that you look like him, and I was like obsessed with the man, what an absolute honor to like have similar traits.

SPEAKER_01 38:42

Yeah, that's that's fair.

SPEAKER_00 38:44

I mean, you have some similar ones as well, and I feel like we both are daddy's girls, but I was just like, what an honor. And it's just like it was just so beautiful to like connect the dots, like this all makes sense now.

SPEAKER_01 38:57

He's also a fire sign. I love a fire sign.

SPEAKER_00 39:00

Yeah, he's March Aries. Those Aries, man. I tell you, they're something else.

SPEAKER_01 39:05

What would your main descriptors of a Sagittarius be?

SPEAKER_00 39:08

We're Segwaying Brandon. You are.

SPEAKER_01 39:13

Yeah. I agree with both of those. I always see things because I guess my algorithm now is it's listening to me, so I'll get Instagram reels of like what it's like to date or be married to a Sagittarius, and it's like you like you will get your feelings hurt because they're so honest. I was like, yeah, that tracks.

SPEAKER_00 39:32

I mean I appreciate it.

SPEAKER_01 39:35

No, yeah, it's not an issue, but it's definitely like I know he's not gonna if I ask him something, I need to be prepared to idea. Yeah. But he's gonna tell.

SPEAKER_00 39:45

I just always think it's funny that you identify with a Gemini, but in my mind I think you're a Taurus. It's weird because it's like you're on the cusp.

SPEAKER_01 39:54

Yeah, I'm cuspy.

SPEAKER_00 39:55

So it's like complicated. You can decide what you want to be.

SPEAKER_01 39:59

That's also very Gemini of me as well.

SPEAKER_00 40:02

Just what mood matches for what like I don't know before the can So he's on the cus too. No, no, no. Mine, the 21st.

SPEAKER_01 40:12

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 40:13

Cus of what? Cancer and what?

SPEAKER_01 40:15

Leo. Okay. No, yes, he's the last day of cancer. Yeah, yeah. That's what it Yeah. I actually don't know. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 40:26

It depends what website you're looking at. Because like the second is like some. Because Kim is the 21st, so she's like sometimes she's a Libra, sometimes she's a Scorpio.

SPEAKER_01 40:35

Yeah. I that's interesting. We should talk to Taylor more about that, because I never I didn't connect that. I wonder if he has like similar traits because Taylor is a Leo. I remember she saying the main things were like communicative and like creative. Well that makes sense.

SPEAKER_00 40:52

So doing so.

SPEAKER_01 40:53

Yeah, yeah. But everybody else.

SPEAKER_00 40:55

Do you think you identify well as being a Sagittarius? A December Sagittarius. Because your daughter's a November one.

SPEAKER_01 41:02

We did natal charts for everybody too. And Sage's, I guess maybe as November, I don't know, but hers was like moody, like routine, uh, adverse, like hate structure, hate feeling like tied to the channel.

SPEAKER_00 41:20

I love it, I can't wait.

SPEAKER_01 41:21

Yeah, I mean. So I do think there are some differences because I don't think you're moody, but I think you like I don't know how to control my emotions. Yeah, but I think you can also get like I don't know the word, like you can be quiet sometimes, and it seems like you're like in a mood, but I think you're just I don't know, taking it all in, processing. I mean, there's differences, right?

SPEAKER_00 41:46

So I think there's differences between like a le September Libra and October Libra.

SPEAKER_01 41:51

Yeah, I remember because I was listening to Sarah's episode and I was saying then too, like, I don't know any September Libras.

SPEAKER_00 41:57

I know one, yeah. I mean, I know a few. Yeah. Like I went to school with, but like I wasn't doing this stuff back then.

SPEAKER_01 42:04

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 42:04

But it's different. But just like so it would be like uh an April Taurus and a a May Taurus, right? Maybe a June. Well, you get f four then, so it's like a May Gemini-ish, and then like a June Gemini.

SPEAKER_01 42:19

Who gets four?

SPEAKER_00 42:20

Well, so you get like there's an April Taurus, a May Taurus, a May Gemini, a June Gemini. So it's like you get to pick from like not four, but it's like everyone has every month has two.

SPEAKER_01 42:32

That's why we're do we're specifying like December set.

SPEAKER_00 42:35

I know. But like the cusp because you said there's like differences between like the different month horoscopes.

SPEAKER_01 42:42

Well I'm on the cusp because I'm the first day of Gemini.

SPEAKER_00 42:44

I know.

SPEAKER_01 42:45

I'm not following.

SPEAKER_00 42:46

It's okay.

SPEAKER_01 42:48

Okay. I don't know where why I started that, but yeah, so hold on, cause I the other things

Sagittarius Traits And Zodiac Debates

SPEAKER_01 42:55

that Chatty said for Sagittarius were yeah, truth teller, freedom seeking in chaotic good energy.

SPEAKER_00 43:01

Freedom seeking as in you only to be held down, Brandon.

SPEAKER_01 43:05

Interesting.

SPEAKER_04 43:06

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 43:06

Okay.

SPEAKER_04 43:07

I don't like restrictions. That's why I'm not a regular employee.

SPEAKER_00 43:12

Wait, is that why you don't like routine either? You feel like suffocated by it?

SPEAKER_04 43:16

Yeah, why would you want to do the same thing every day?

SPEAKER_00 43:19

I mean, like, Brandon, listen, if it helps you, it helps you function.

SPEAKER_01 43:23

So he's like, Yeah, but I don't need that to function. I function fine without which, yeah, I would have to.

SPEAKER_00 43:28

Wait, Brandon, do you want to join our book club?

SPEAKER_01 43:30

He doesn't want to be tied down. He doesn't want to have a set day and a book someone's telling him to read.

SPEAKER_04 43:36

That's why I do a free trial. I cancel my membership.

SPEAKER_01 43:41

We don't offer clothes. We don't offer free trials.

SPEAKER_00 43:44

No. Ours is free. You don't have to pay. You you can just attend just for the community.

SPEAKER_01 43:51

Sure.

SPEAKER_04 43:52

I'll support.

SPEAKER_01 43:53

I mean, yeah, I can see him joining for support. But you know, the book that you saw, I told her this too, and I was like

SPEAKER_02 44:00

That's why I brought it up. That's why I brought it up.

SPEAKER_01 44:06

She was like, Oh, this looks interesting. Like, whose is this? And I said, It's Brandon's. And then I was like, But he doesn't read. I said he's been reading it since COVID. He's been reading it for six years now. And you have been.

SPEAKER_00 44:19

Wait, are we keeping my baby up? Is that why he keeps waking up?

SPEAKER_01 44:22

Yeah, I don't know what his deal is, to be honest.

SPEAKER_00 44:25

The CNET bird.

SPEAKER_01 44:28

True. He's fine though. But it was sweet because he bought it because I was reading a lot during COVID, like physical books, and he was like, well, you spend a lot of time reading, so I figured I would buy a book too. I was like, that's really nice.

SPEAKER_00 44:41

Well, also live there during COVID.

SPEAKER_01 44:45

I was listening to Libby at my old job.

SPEAKER_00 44:49

Your favorite job.

SPEAKER_01 44:51

Yeah. That's how I got through the days.

SPEAKER_00 44:53

Wait, are you wearing the shirt that I got you?

SPEAKER_01 44:55

I am, and I've been wearing the hat too. I'm really leaning into blue lately because normally I don't like blue, but I'm into it. So thanks. That helps. Do you just like shop in your sleep? No. Because you've said that before too. You were like, oh, I forgot with the eye thing. You're like, oh, I forgot I got you that. You're just like impulse buying in your sleep.

SPEAKER_00 45:21

Hey, that's one of the symptoms. Confirmed.

SPEAKER_01 45:23

I mean, true. Hold on. I have to open a pack of wipes.

SPEAKER_00 45:26

That was purchase from Marshalls or Burlington. Well, the eye thing? Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 45:33

Oh. Yeah, I liked it. I used it earlier. Oh, that's right. You don't have it. You have the full face one.

SPEAKER_00 45:41

Oh, the mask, yeah. I haven't used it in months. But what were the globes that you text me about?

SPEAKER_01 45:50

The you put them in the fridge and they have like a gel inside them so they get cold and then you put them under your eyelids for uh to depuff and like when you Do you is it like you just like lay with them on or like how do you put them on? Just rub them like you physically hold them and rub them under your it's like a jade roller, but yes, I use mine every day. Yes. The one that's in the refrigerator. Yeah, the one that's in the refrigerator.

SPEAKER_00 46:17

So I used to my eye masks used to live in the refrigerator, Brendan, the gel ones.

SPEAKER_01 46:22

No, he was saying the c the cooling globes. Those ones are in the refrigerator.

SPEAKER_00 46:26

Remember the gel eye masks?

SPEAKER_01 46:28

Yeah, that's what he's talking. He calls them my footballs, the ones that go under your eyes. I love those. I know. I used them today too. They're the best. He calls them my footballs though, because he said I look like a football player with like when they put the paint on the lines under their eyes. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 46:44

Why do they do that? To block the sun, right?

SPEAKER_01 46:46

I think so.

SPEAKER_00 46:47

Okay. Brandy, do you have anything else to add to share

Marriage Laughs And Home Habits

SPEAKER_00 46:50

with our community?

SPEAKER_01 46:51

Yeah. About life as a Sag. Or just anything else you want to share?

SPEAKER_04 46:55

No, I don't want to expose you.

SPEAKER_01 46:57

Why? We're real and honest.

unknown 47:00

We are.

SPEAKER_01 47:01

You can say what you think I would think is the most embarrassing thing.

SPEAKER_04 47:05

Do you poop with it? Do I open?

SPEAKER_00 47:07

God.

SPEAKER_01 47:08

I don't.

SPEAKER_00 47:08

I like privacy though.

SPEAKER_01 47:10

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 47:11

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 47:11

Yeah. He said okay.

SPEAKER_04 47:14

Do you leave crumbs in the bed? These are all things he does.

SPEAKER_00 47:17

I personally do not, but some people that I know in this house do. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 47:22

Do you run from another room into another room just to fart in their presence?

SPEAKER_00 47:26

Okay. Heck no. Listen. Oh wait. To in their presence?

SPEAKER_01 47:32

Yes. Because he's a nuisance.

SPEAKER_00 47:35

No, but some other people do. Like it's just crazy.

SPEAKER_01 47:37

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 47:38

Do you have to bring in an Amazon package that is not yours every day?

SPEAKER_00 47:44

So they're usually mine. They're mine. Right.

SPEAKER_04 47:49

So then no.

SPEAKER_00 47:50

No.

SPEAKER_04 47:51

Because that's a reward. You bought something that you wanted. You know it's there. You're excited.

SPEAKER_00 47:57

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 47:57

Get the hold it. Bring it in the house.

SPEAKER_00 48:00

Are you mad because you didn't because your pack packages and yours?

SPEAKER_01 48:03

He's mad because he brings my packages in.

SPEAKER_00 48:06

Oh, okay. I mean it's it's teamwork.

SPEAKER_01 48:11

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 48:11

But have you ever become injured due to this?

SPEAKER_01 48:15

To what are you referring?

SPEAKER_04 48:16

When your packages are heavy.

SPEAKER_01 48:18

Please. You should be bringing the heavy package.

SPEAKER_04 48:20

Dumboard outside and in.

SPEAKER_01 48:21

Can we add that to the list for Sagittarius? Because you guys do know how to be dramatic.

SPEAKER_00 48:25

You do know how to your daughter knows how to handle the heads.

SPEAKER_01 48:30

I'm an adult.

SPEAKER_00 48:32

Which is even worse.

SPEAKER_01 48:34

Just you like to throw a little bit. What did the what's the phrase? Throw a little tantrum. You like to like beef things up. What? You like to throw a little razzle dazzle. But that's what you're saying, little Raz. Riz.

SPEAKER_03 48:47

She'd have seen your face. You were like Yeah, it's Riz.

SPEAKER_01 48:51

And I only know that because I work with them and I had to ask them what it means. It's short for charisma.

SPEAKER_00 48:57

Excuse me.

SPEAKER_01 48:58

And like it means like you know how to flirt and like attract people. You got riz. Yeah. It's a good buff.

SPEAKER_00 49:06

Wait, Brandon. So before we wrap up here, I just want to say that the next episode the three of us do together, we must do one as millennials.

SPEAKER_02 49:15

Okay. Sure.

SPEAKER_00 49:16

Because we did one for the mature millennials such as myself. And then Cherie, you were the younger one. But remember we like compared things. Remember that episode? Yeah, I do.

SPEAKER_01 49:28

Yes. Yeah. I think that would be a good one. It would be. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 49:32

There's just so many millennial posts out like just recently, and I'm loving the vibe. Loving it.

SPEAKER_01 49:38

Yeah, I'm down for that.

SPEAKER_00 49:39

Are you 90 or 91? 90. Okay, great.

SPEAKER_01 49:42

Still a millennial.

SPEAKER_00 49:43

Yeah, I just couldn't remember if he was 90 or 91. Well, this has been very pleasant. This was so fun. With your children's cousins, aka my children.

SPEAKER_01 49:57

Yes, I know. Did you see the newborn scrunch? Oh, I keep forgetting we're on the mic. There's gonna be a lot of background noise in this one.

SPEAKER_00 50:04

It's fine. But also, can I just see her?

SPEAKER_01 50:08

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 50:09

Shere, you didn't talk about like everything you're savoring now for newborns.

SPEAKER_01 50:13

No, they're so tiny.

SPEAKER_00 50:15

He's like when oh, he's a passy baby.

SPEAKER_01 50:18

Sometimes, because then he'll just spit it out.

SPEAKER_00 50:21

Yeah, that's how Harry used to be. RJ wasn't though, except when he circumcised and remember, you're like, they gave him a pacifier. I was like, they did what?

SPEAKER_01 50:28

Yeah. Sage would also spit it out, so we never even really had like more than I can't remember.

SPEAKER_00 50:33

Did Daisy say we were passy babies or not? I don't remember. I don't think we were.

SPEAKER_01 50:38

I think this might be Nike.

SPEAKER_00 50:40

He's so precious.

SPEAKER_01 50:41

He's like, please wrap it.

SPEAKER_00 50:43

I'm obsessed with him. Well, Brandon, this has been absolutely amazing.

SPEAKER_04 50:51

We have to do it again.

SPEAKER_00 50:53

We do.

SPEAKER_01 50:53

Did you enjoy your first baby's first podcast? Yes. Great.

SPEAKER_00 50:58

I know. And then next time,

Closing Thoughts And Reviews

SPEAKER_00 51:00

Brandon, I want you to feel that you can be yourself because then it'll be your second appearance.

SPEAKER_01 51:04

He definitely was himself. He just did not use his fruitful language as he normally does.

SPEAKER_00 51:09

Which is fine. I appreciate that, but as Cherie said, we are very honest on here.

SPEAKER_01 51:13

Yeah. And me, what do they say down here? We cuss. They say cuss down here. I say curse.

SPEAKER_04 51:19

You also say pies and hogies.

SPEAKER_01 51:22

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_00 51:23

And tennis. Yeah. What else do you call it?

unknown 51:26

Sneak.

SPEAKER_04 51:26

You know how to pump your.

SPEAKER_01 51:28

Yeah, she she's been here for longer than I have. Oh, this is delayed. What is happening? It's fine. Okay. Bye. Alright. He's seeing himself.

SPEAKER_00 51:38

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SPEAKER_01 51:39

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SPEAKER_00 51:41

We'll talk to you soon, guys. Love ya. Bye.

SPEAKER_01 51:45

Alright, everyone. This was another episode of Turn the Page Podcast. Thanks for hanging out.

SPEAKER_00 51:50

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