Between Takes with 1413
The two creatives spearheading 1413 Visuals are talking about all things studio life -- work, music, love etc.
Between Takes with 1413
Ep 1: Focus on Industry: Unveiling Our Favorite Photography and Videography Niches
Tune into the first episode of 'Between Takes with 1413' as we recount all the creative genres that we love -- and DON'T love. We'll even peel back the curtain on a unique experience where live music and live streaming melded within the walls of an airplane hangar, proving that the most unexpected venues can host the most memorable shoots.
Strap in for a ride through the ethics of paid photography, the unwritten rules of capturing life's milestones for friends, and how sometimes, bestowing a photographic gift can be more rewarding than any paycheck. Then, let us transport you to the imaginative realm where music beats become visual feasts.
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I like to. Nope, you're weird. I think we really wanted to start this podcast off with a couple cool topics and easy ones. Neither of us are familiar with podcasting.
Speaker 2:Yeah, we know how to make them. Don't know how to be in them.
Speaker 1:Exactly. Something I wanted to share is a couple of the photography and videography industries and styles maybe that we really enjoy. For example, I work a lot in the local music scene and I absolutely love it. I love concert photography, I love performance videography. I love all of it, everything about it. Band photos I don't do a lot of actual stationary band and musician photo shoots. I have done a handful with the same couple musicians but I would say, of all of the music things I do, actual photo shoots are kind of at the lower end as far as less often.
Speaker 1:I do a lot of performance, specific things shows, photos and videos. You know performance recaps, acoustic recordings, video for that. And then I just started dabbling in various types of music videos. Love all of that. I've always wanted to do something sports related. I went through a big phase where I wanted to shoot hockey. I still think shooting hockey would be so fun of all the sports, I think that would make my day. But I don't have a lot of experience almost no experience in shooting sports, so getting my foot in the door in those realms hasn't been super easy. And as much as you would think, the music performance stuff would be similar to sports, because they're both fast paced. No.
Speaker 2:It's a totally different type of fast paced it doesn't help you cross over.
Speaker 1:So when I did get the opportunity to shoot for a drift event or for a driver specifically in a drift event and cross into not sports but motor sport, I was really, really excited and I absolutely love it. I've had so much fun since I started getting into that. The drift community specifically super cool to be a small part of and like really kind of come up into. I love everybody I've met in that area and I really really love shooting at the track, especially because I grew up at going to the track. I think I've told you this before my granddad raced the whole part of my life, that I knew him and he was really great at it. He was well known in the small area that we lived but we spent every weekend at the track. So being able to be a part of that really connected me to a part of my childhood and where I come from. That I actually enjoyed. So those two types of industries are special to me and I absolutely love.
Speaker 2:I think that I do share one with you and that's the music, because I don't know, growing up I like playing guitar and it was like in bands and cover bands and I still love to play, but I'm not in a band or do anything.
Speaker 1:You do that old music video. You shot me. You showed me of your band back in the day.
Speaker 2:Please don't.
Speaker 1:You mean it's like a homemade, it looks like a shit. We shot on one of those, sam songs.
Speaker 2:It was absolutely shot on a flip.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I don't know if you know that, and it was my friend Alex and I definitely am going to tag him in this.
Speaker 2:He'll probably wish I never did, but we it wasn't a band I was in is when YouTube started. The big thing YouTube was covers and I think we did a Lady Gaga song and at the time we thought we were really doing something like. We were like oh my God, this is amazing.
Speaker 1:No key, that video is like the vibe I go for and I'm like yeah, that like like you feel like you're watching it on a VCR tape.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but this is actually probably because it was on a VCR tape. But that's like a core memory of me and him doing that and like we didn't know what we were doing. We were just having fun and doing this thing. And the girl that sang on the song she was in Australia. If, for some reason, you watch it, please know that that was like 12 years ago and we were learning. But we're having fun. But back to what we were talking about they actually shot it last week.
Speaker 2:I should never show you that, but the that is, like I said, a core memory and I have fun doing it and that kind of was there in the spark of me getting into audio and video. Every time I shoot music, even before I start doing stuff with Samantha, come home from shooting like video and I'm like man, I wish I was cool, I wish I could play. But some music is a big one to me and the style of music that I like to do is more of like the planned out music, video type or concept stuff. I've shot live stuff and I like doing that too, but it's just not conducive for my lifestyle being a dad. But anything music related I really enjoy and I always have.
Speaker 2:I've been lucky to work with some really cool people and come up with some really cool ideas with them and anything that you know. Going back to like what, what do I like to shoot? Anything that I can build something for, build a rig for, build this, take plexiglass and like have, like shoot through it, and just anything that I can do. That kind of stuff where I've always liked, because I guess I do like work with my hands in. Yeah, so that kind of sums up what I enjoy.
Speaker 1:You spend most of your time doing corporate stuff. We've just started doing live streams.
Speaker 2:Well, I've done live streams for a while. During COVID, one of the things that we did was me and William Seymour and Rebecca Todd. We had this thing called Live From the Hanger and that was combining the local music and I was like, let's try to live stream this thing. And it was called Live From the Hanger, so it was an airplane hanger with an airplane in the background and that was my first taste of like let's combine the music stuff and the live streaming and see what we could come up with. And it was a lot of fun. I would love to do that again. What's your least favorite thing to shoot? Oh, that'd be touchy.
Speaker 1:I hate shooting weddings. I hate love. Just kidding. Just kidding, you're not. I really don't like to shoot weddings, and when people hear that, they're not surprised.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:They're like oh, you seem like a bundle of joy.
Speaker 2:Here's why. Here's why.
Speaker 1:I don't like to shoot weddings it's not because I don't like love. I actually love love. Okay, my favorite movies Romcoms. I've said that before. I love solid B movie Romcoms. I love other people's love. That's not why I don't want to shoot, why I don't like to shoot weddings. The reason I don't like to is because it is such an important day. It is, in some people's opinion, the most important day of these people's lives. The overwhelming amount of stress and anxiety that I would mess something up, not get something or just not do a good enough job, like to do that day justice and give the couple what they want. I know that that type of work is where the money is yeah, but the amount of stress I would put on myself to do what, in my opinion, would be good enough for a day that important, I can't it.
Speaker 2:Just it takes all the fun and creativity out of it for me, totally get it, and I'm not gonna say I don't like shooting weddings but I don't like editing weddings, for the same reason you just said.
Speaker 2:I feel like, because I can cover a wedding, I've got that. I've done it a lot, I can edit it, but I never feel like this is the beautiful masterpiece that is representing their love. And it's totally a me thing, just like I bet that you could cover a wedding and get all the stuff. It's in your head, but it's God, is it uncomfortable? But the torment that I put myself through is what makes it not worth it.
Speaker 1:Logically, I know I'm capable. Yeah, logically I know that I could and know how to do what I would need to do. But the stress and anxiety that I would put on myself because of the mere thought that maybe I wouldn't do it good enough, well enough for a day that's so important it just to me isn't worth it. It would make me not want to pick up a camera. That's why I just I've second shot a couple weddings and I haven't ever had like a bad experience around that. I just know that that's not where I would happily make a living as a creative. It's just I would put way too much stress on myself that I wouldn't be able to actually do anything 100% get that.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:It's tough, especially like when you get a rundown of a wedding and it's like this needs to happen and this, this and this and this, and if that doesn't happen and we don't get it, and oh my God, did you have the audio recording when they were doing the vows? Oh no, they started raining, so you gotta move on. It's tough. It's tough said.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I mean I've second shot video for one and the communication between the photographer and the video. It wasn't very good in this particular wedding and us on video missed the father's first look, like weren't even there for it, because of it was just a complete lack of communication. We were told to wait in a spot and they were coming, and then they forgot that we were waiting on them and brought and rushed the father out for the first look and took the photos.
Speaker 2:Yep.
Speaker 1:And by the time we came, like we went looking and came around, it was over and that's just not like something that you can recreate. It happens, there's no malice in it. It happens sometimes. But that kind of stress, like because it's just there's so many moments at a wedding that you cannot recreate.
Speaker 2:Yep.
Speaker 1:You have one opportunity and sometimes it is your fault and sometimes it isn't your fault when you miss it, and it's just like I could not handle that kind of anxiety as far as creating when I take on a wedding, I only do it if I'm doing it with Chad. Mm-hmm.
Speaker 2:Like I'm working for him that day.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Videographer and photographer should definitely be communicating, because you like working together. We don't want to make the couple do stuff twice. We more want to make this a seamless process and also like what you said, where they sneak off with the photographer and then the video. People are like where's the couple at?
Speaker 1:Or vice versa.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah. So communication is key, and then communication with the wedding planner is another big thing.
Speaker 1:If you have a crappy wedding planner.
Speaker 2:It's almost worse than not even have one at all.
Speaker 1:Mm-hmm. Yeah, there's just so many moving parts, so many really important things that go into a wedding, Helping someone shoot one fine.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Ultimately, it's not all on me, but that's why I specifically do not do that. As a surface, I offer Most of your typical things photographers and videographers, cover yeah Weddings.
Speaker 2:Senior portraits Senior Any portraits, graduation.
Speaker 1:Family portraits, any of the happy stuff. I don't do any of that. I don't feel confident in my ability to pose people for photos. So this is why I like to photograph and record people like doing something they enjoy where it's natural, and I'm good at finding the angles and to make something what they're doing into a good photo and an interesting photo.
Speaker 2:Have you ever been trying to and I say this out of experience, because I've done it you're posing somebody and you're like, oh, look this way, oh, look that way, and like nothing's looking great.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I, just I keep snapping the photo and then I move on to another and I just don't use those.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:I take a lot of bad photos. I take a lot of good photos, kind of move on from whatever pose it is and I just kind of learn from whatever it is. Sometimes even I feel like a style that you're looking to achieve. There are some people that can't pose themselves in those ways because it doesn't feel natural to them or they just their brain doesn't wrap around what you're actually looking for, or I can't communicate what my brain is thinking to that person properly. I will do portrait photo shoots that are passion projects or something that I want to try and I want to do, and they're with a friend that I can just let go, and if I like none of the photos, it doesn't matter. If I like them all, yay, I learned something and B, I got to be creative and whatever. But as far as taking money to do them stuff like that, it's not a service I offer because I don't feel confident in my ability. I'm like a firm believer in not taking money from people for something I don't feel confident in.
Speaker 2:And then like when I get people to ask me to do stuff unless they're friends, like if I have a friend like somebody I know, that's like hey, can you take pictures at my baby shower or something? And this is somebody that I'm close to, I'll do it, but most of the time I direct them to somebody that I know is really awesome at that particular thing. Same goes family photos. I get stuff about hey, can you shoot photos at my wedding? I always I don't do that, but here's somebody that specializes in it and is really good.
Speaker 1:My best friend. I do her. I did maternity photos, newborn photos. I took photos at her baby shower. She's the only person that I will do that for and she's really gracious in not always tagging me when she posts the photos, and that's by request.
Speaker 2:Okay, okay, that is by request.
Speaker 1:She asks me do you want to be tagged? She knows that I don't want people hitting me up for maternity photos and Because you become that person Newborn photos or anything. I did it for her because I love her and I love her baby and I was happy to do it, but I don't want to be sought out for it, so she knows not to.
Speaker 2:She knows the deal.
Speaker 1:Yeah, she knows the deal, she gets it. So that's another reason I like doing that stuff for her, because I did have a lot of fun doing those photo shoots and any photo shoot she never needs I'll be there.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I treat it like a gift.
Speaker 1:Yes, exactly.
Speaker 2:And I'll go ahead and get Kat, if you're watching this. She knows that it's a special occasion to get me to take the style of photos, but she appreciates it and I joke whether I'm like that's your gift, that's a, that's Laney's gift.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:I wish I was better at posing too. I suck at it.
Speaker 1:I can pull it off. That's my weakness.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so you go first. Okay, my song of the week this week is One question for you Are you the type of person that can listen to the same song over and, over, and, over and over again the same day?
Speaker 1:Yeah, okay, all my favorite songs I listen to multiple times anytime they come on.
Speaker 2:Yeah, if you're driving somewhere and you're listening to your song and using your GPS, if the GPS comes up right when the good part of the song starts or happens, do you usually watch? Start the song over.
Speaker 1:I did that today.
Speaker 2:Good, that's what I didn't know, so you go first.
Speaker 1:Okay, my song of the week this week is Homesick by Noa Khan, and I love the entire Noa Khan album, front to back, cover to cover, side A to side B, all of it Love it. Okay, so one of the only albums I love, every song, the whole thing. Lately I've been just inhaling the song Homesick, just completely stewing in it. I feel like the song is really not about being actually homesick, it's it. To me, it's every single reason. I left where I grew up. Yeah, like it's kind of talking about kind of like going nowhere in your hometown.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:And like that being motivation to leave and like I mean it sounds great, the song's great, but like that it really resonates with that aspect of myself which is why I love that song.
Speaker 2:It's awesome. Yeah, you know what mine is, and this is funny, mine is Car Sick by Kay Flea.
Speaker 1:Is that the song you've been like?
Speaker 2:like making, making you. You've listened to yeah, yeah, that's not a bad song.
Speaker 1:It's a very different song it is and my reason.
Speaker 2:I'm not as deep as yours, but it's more like I heard it and I'm like man. That would be an awesome song for a video, because it's got a huge chorus when it comes in yeah, it's a huge chorus and I love her voice. I love the it's, I don't know makes me feel in the lyrics. Pretty cool too.
Speaker 1:You have said you've pictured making a video to that song.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, yeah, but those. That's my song of the week.
Speaker 1:Do you like? Are you someone that you see songs in videos? Absolutely, Me too.
Speaker 2:Absolutely. Even from before I was in in video, into video stuff, and I was just in the music. It's the most stereotypical thing. But you know, like when you're 14 and you're looking out the window of a car and listen to a song on your headphones and you're like this could be a music video. You don't think that, oh, this could be. You're like man, this is filling that up right now.
Speaker 1:I just see it in, yeah, in video scenes, even like for like the longest time. But even when I was just doing photography, I would picture like the songs that you know, as like musicians I was working with were coming out with new songs, I would picture it in in video, like just picture a video in my head.
Speaker 2:Yeah. And I mean I wasn't making music videos then, but I think I think that is something that, that it happens to you, and then you start doing stuff like either shooting a stylized photo shoot with that or or yeah, or actually doing a music video yourself and you're able to put these ideas that you you hear into visuals and that's like the funnest part of the music video is a number one, working with an artist.
Speaker 2:And number two is like collabing and and you're doing these things that are in your head and making them come to life.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I agree. Yeah, we'll have them linked in our 14 30, between takes Spotify playlist so anybody can listen to our songs on the week.
Speaker 2:Hopefully we could build up a really cool playlist after a few episodes.
Speaker 1:It's going to be all over the place playlist, but I think those are the best ones.