Between Takes with 1413
The two creatives spearheading 1413 Visuals are talking about all things studio life -- work, music, love etc.
Between Takes with 1413
Ep 6: Facing Burnout?
Ever hit a wall where your creative spark fizzles out, even when you're knee-deep in what you love? That's the raw and real conversation we're having today. It's an intimate look at the emotional rollercoaster artists ride, complete with the guilt of feeling drained despite doing what we adore. But it's not just about the hurdles; it's about the leaps we make to overcome them. We'll share the coping mechanisms that we use to re-ignite that creative flame, from indulging in the rhythms of music to the tactile magic of shooting on film—it's a journey back to finding joy in the process and rekindling that artistic fervor.
It's important to share that you aren't alone in feeling burnt out or exhausted. Needed to take a step back doesn't make you any less of a creative than anyone else, and we all deal with it!
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Speaker 2:Go ahead. What have you been up to?
Speaker 1:What have I been up to? I have been well. It was Easter, so Easter weekend was filled with a bunch of um easter egg hunts and visiting family and that typical easter family stuff uh, I shot.
Speaker 2:I did a lot of shoots this weekend.
Speaker 1:A good day to talk about burnout, because I am feeling burnt out actually yeah, and we're talking about creative burnout, because I think you get burnt out of everything if you do it enough. But creative burnout to me is when I'm doing something that can be looked at as monotonous Not saying that I don't enjoy it but when I do it a lot it's like anything. If you do it so much it starts to lose its sizzle and you have to to like think about it realistically because it does happen. Like, no matter how much you love doing something, it happens. So with with me doing corporate stuff or the, the shooting a bunch of interviews and then going through the footage and trying to find something, sometimes if you do it every all day, it kind of takes the fun out of it and I think that there's different ways that you can handle that.
Speaker 2:How do you handle it?
Speaker 1:Me. I try to find an outlet, whether it be doing something that I deem creative in my mind. Doing something that I deem creative in my mind, whether that be doing something with music or shooting on film, is something that I use a lot when I when I need to take a step out of the the same routine, and that's one of the reasons why I like and sometimes I'm able to if it's a client that would look good on film, I'm able to like, finesse my way into shooting film for the client, making money, doing something that's fun to me.
Speaker 2:I don't know. I think burnout is just kind of overloading to the point where it makes things not fun and kind of takes away like the motivation to get things done or be a part of things or, and I don't really know what I do to fix it. To be honest, I just like force myself, I guess, until it like goes away, until something inspires me or I just fully dive into it and won't do anything for a couple days and let myself like restart. But I think it's something that's like inescapable, especially for creatives yeah, it's gonna happen, whether you like it or not.
Speaker 1:Even if you landed a job doing your favorite thing every day, all day, there's gonna come a point that it may and it's not like gonna last forever. But you might feel like, oh my gosh, this is, this is. How can I complain because I'm doing something that is creative and I'm making money at it.
Speaker 1:You almost feel guilty for for even thinking that, but it really can suck the soul out of you, especially when your job is to to take something that is, let's say, if it's a product or video you're making, that that is semi-boring, like on the outside, on the on the face of it, and you're like, okay, my job is to make this creative and make this interesting, and that takes a lot of brain power. It takes a lot of thinking and trying things out, and then sometimes it doesn't work. But it's, it's a real thing, it's, it's aggravating.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I think I mean that's what I was saying is like I think burnout really crushes your motivation, and especially like you keep shooting stuff so you keep adding, but you don't. You're having a hard time getting into it. I'm not really anybody to give anybody advice on it, though A probably don't handle it in the healthiest way, and B yeah, I don't know. I feel like I get burnout all the time.
Speaker 1:It happens to get burnout all the time. It happens the hardest thing well, not the hardest thing to do but burnout will happen to me when I'm editing. That's usually where it happens. I can I always have fun shooting stuff unless, like there's a reason you know, I have bad news or I feel bad or whatever. But I'm still going to make, I'm going to make it through it.
Speaker 1:But editing where, where I'm able to be alone, is where it's like I think, like I feel it coming on when I'm I get frustrated with a project because it's not looking up to my standards, or I don't feel like it's creative enough, or if I think that this looks like a PowerPoint presentation when it needs to be something way better than it is, and that sometimes like a precursor to me getting burnt out. Now, when I do get burnt out, I have to power through it. I just have to. I can't just abandon the project because I have to power through it. I just have to. It's I've. I can't just abandon the project because I got people depending on it yeah, I mean I, I have to, I mean that's bills to pay there's no, there's, no, not doing it.
Speaker 2:But sometimes things take me longer than others because I'm in the middle of dealing with burnout or and I just don't know where to start. Or, like I said, it kind of stops up the creativity, no, inspiration it no. I think it cuts off inspiration. Yeah, it can be like really discouraging, and sometimes I'll try to do something for fun. I'll go to a show that I just want to be at. Sometimes that works, but then all that stuff even has to be edited.
Speaker 1:It just piles on.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so sometimes I feel like I'm shooting more stuff, regardless of if it's passion or not. I think sometimes the quickest way I get out of it is when I just sink into it. So I just spend a day not doing a single thing creative. I literally am not the least bit creative at all. Nothing about my day is in any way, shape or form, creative, because at that point I've put too much pressure on my creativity, which then, like, stops up.
Speaker 1:anything I'm able to do so and I just completely I think I in some ways get forced to have to not be creative because, like, if it's the weekend you have scheduled in breaks, yeah, you don't really have a choice out of being like being out of because your responsibility at that time is to watch your kids. Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:And I don't have, not that that's an excuse, but I don't have that kind of excuse. Yeah, it's not, or like it almost would be a justification in your head to not be creative.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Like it's not that you're being lazy, You're taking care of your kids.
Speaker 1:But there's sometimes that and this is where I feel guilty is that in my head when I'm watching the kids. As much as I try not to let this happen and I love my kids a lot, but I'm like man. I wish I was at the studio right now finishing up that such and such, because it's a weight that's on me.
Speaker 2:It's a bummer that we like. I think it affects it too that it's 4 o'clock in the afternoon.
Speaker 1:You're drained.
Speaker 2:Yeah. Song of the week.
Speaker 1:This is the shittiest episode ever. Don't you use that in the promo either?
Speaker 2:Well, you know, this is the shittiest episode. We're talking about burnout on a day that we're feeling burnout. We're talking about burnout on a day that we're feeling burnout. This episode is a direct depiction of what burnout is.
Speaker 1:This is actual burnout.
Speaker 2:I don't feel like chatting yeah, it's just no fault to anybody?
Speaker 1:Do you get burnout daily or does it hit you?
Speaker 2:I wouldn't call what happens to me daily burnout. I'm introverted, 100%, there's no doubt. So being around people drains my energy. I gain energy back by being by myself and so by the end of the day my social battery is drained, but I'm not burnout. Burnout to me is when I just cannot bring like, cannot bring myself to like, get into projects Like. I feel like burnout, I guess most. I relate it mostly to work. So burnout to me is when I can't work Like I don't, I don't, I just don't have the mental capacity or energy to start anything. Yeah, and there's no creative, I have no inspiration, I know nothing. That's what burnout feels to me. Drain a drain social battery could happen in a matter of hours depending on the number of people.
Speaker 1:I imagine a bar above your head that like it's like no, no, it's like filled up like a video game oh, I wish there was like, I wish I had like a, something that like like a mood, like a mood ring thing, or like a pin that could go on my shirt that you could literally physically see my battery draining. I would love if you had that honestly.
Speaker 2:You know, I think it would help my whole entire life Because people would see, like you know, when my little battery went in the red and be like literally.
Speaker 1:Ooh, she needs to recharge.
Speaker 2:She needs to go home.
Speaker 1:Trying to think what else will drain the thing.
Speaker 2:If someone sends me and this is even when I'm alone Okay, someone's texting me and they send me a bunch of messages, one after another, before I can even say anything. Or if I'm doing something on my phone and I get a bunch of text messages and they're fine, they're not mean text messages, it's a regular. Some people just text that way and I'll get unbelievably overwhelmed by the. Or people who send a snapchat. It's a long video so it breaks it up into multiple snapchats. I'm doing something on my phone and the snap keeps coming through.
Speaker 1:Yeah, now you gotta watch this movie.
Speaker 2:I get. No, I I'm not worried about watching it, I just push them up. It's like the fact that I am still pushing them up and I'm like what the? I don't want to see a literal video of your grass growing Like, get what, it's all and it's always. I love my friends who have kids, but it's always a video of their kid doing the most random thing, like for a long period of time. And I'm like I, you could have sent me that. You could have sent me a four second video of this. I would have got the same idea and wouldn't have to keep watching do you care about videos of people's kids?
Speaker 2:what do you mean?
Speaker 1:like is that? Are you like if you could, if they you never hurt anybody's feelings if they knew this. But like do you care to see their kids doing stuff?
Speaker 2:oh no, I mean I. It doesn't bother me that they send me videos of their kids. I'm saying that it's always the people with kids who send me really long videos of their kid doing something very mundane and I'm like, okay, we could have cut this to one Snap video. That's my complaint. It's not that I'm seeing your kid, I don't care that. I'm seeing your kid, that's fine, but we could have cut it down. It's like when I'm getting my phone, it's like six See.
Speaker 1:Please tell me that's a video of a kid.
Speaker 2:It was a Snapchat, it could have been. Yeah, it's just when I get all these and I'm like doing something on my phone, even if it's not something important, but I just instantly get over overwhelmed about the fact that I received something and, like I wasn't doing it, like receive, like I don't know, watching it right away and responding whatever, but that will drain my battery too. I'll instantly feel like I have way too much going on, which isn't true, but that's what my brain says.
Speaker 1:I'm really not busy, I'm like well, my day's shot because I got to watch this video on Snapchat. That meter is just right before then.
Speaker 2:This could be at like nine o'clock in the morning, before you leave, yeah, and then I got to plan my whole evening around when I'm going to watch that video. So better go make dinner now so I can sit down with my dinner and then watch the video Song of the Week.
Speaker 1:Okay, well, my Song of the Week it's on my playlist, that gets replayed in my truck when we're driving. That you've pointed out because it's so good it's the Hives' Hate to Say I Told you so I like it because it's very okay. The thing about the Hives is that the way that their music sounds is like not, it's very square, it's very not on the beat, like the drums are slightly off and it's this jangly sounding guitar. I don't know, it's a combination. If you ever listen to them, that's kind of like their sound Square. Yeah, yeah, I'm describing the way the drummer plays. It's very not like in the groove, it's very like against what else is going on in the song. Anyway, that's the.
Speaker 1:I hate to say it. I told you it's a great song. It's been around for a long time. Love the Hives, that's my song I have been listening to.
Speaker 2:Wyatt flores released a new song recently called wish I could stay, and I've been listening to it a lot. It's not, it is a sad song. It isn't like I think it's low-key a love song. I can't. I'm not 100 sure, I haven't quite decided. I think you can apply it how you want to. I'm not applying it as a love song because that's not my vibe, but I do really like the song, been listening to it a lot. It's also on my playlist that gets repeated there you have it.
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