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Between Takes with 1413
The two creatives spearheading 1413 Visuals are talking about all things studio life -- work, music, love etc.
Between Takes with 1413
Social Media in the Creative Space: Stolen Content and Negativity
Creative ownership and the importance of crediting are central themes that emerged from our recent experience with a misappropriated video. We explore the implications of assumed ownership in creative fields, the emotional toll it takes on creators, and the collective responsibility we share in supporting one another.
• A personal story about a misappropriated video
• Discussion of the implications of emoji usage in crediting
• Insights into the importance of community and respect among creatives
• The need to cultivate a supportive online presence
• The broader conversation about ownership and credit in the creative landscape
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And we're back with Between Takes. Sam, how have you been? I've been good, normal.
Speaker 2:There's been a couple things that have happened to me and I've seen on social media the past couple weeks and I want to chat about them and I want to hear what you think.
Speaker 1:All right. So what you got, go ahead, kick it off.
Speaker 2:I'm going to start with something that happened to me. Okay, first, I feel like my perception of the situation is that a photographer used my video I made for an artist as her own on social media and I'm going to tell you like I want to tell you exactly how it happened from, like, how I was seeing it. Okay, basically, I see I'm scrolling Instagram and I see a reel come up and I recognize it. It's like an old video I made and I it was for a musician that I regularly work with. The only difference is it has words on the video that are basically promoting an upcoming show of his. It came up on my feed because the original poster collabed with him, so the person posting it collabed with him, and the venue he was about to play it on the poster was a photographer, and I don't have any problem with my videos being used to promote shows by venues.
Speaker 2:That's the point of them being made, and it happens all the time. And it even happens where venues will post it and make videos like that and not credit me, and that doesn't upset me. Again, it happens all the time. I see them come up on different musicians. It's the same with photos. They'll use photos to make graphics and stuff. None of those venues are crediting me or other photographers. That doesn't like bother me because they're not the like, the captions and everything else aren't acting as if that photo was like taken by them. Yeah, so what made this like feel icky to me was then I so saw the post and then I saw I saw it was done, originally done by a person I didn't recognize, um, and I like clicked or I was scrolling so I read the caption and the caption was like talking about the, was just like talking about the show and the musician was gonna be playing the show and then it had the camera emoji on it oh like credited to but it didn't tag anyone, it just had the camera emoji.
Speaker 2:And then like all the hashtags and I click the profile in the the account is a photographer and like social media or some sort of marketing or brand person or expert or whatever. And and I was like okay, interesting. And then I clicked the comments and the original poster also commented a camera, guitar and fire emoji. And I feel like when you say stuff like that out loud, you're like that sounds especially from the outside. You might be like that sounds absolutely ridiculous, that you would be upset about like emojis or whatever. But in our like creator space world on social media, if you, when you're like posting your own work, like you'll put the camera emojis or whatever as like a shorthand almost for like that's your stuff, yeah, like even. Um, if you, if someone posts your stuff and they don't credit you, you like share it to your post and add like a camera emoji, whatever and that't credit you. You like share it to your post and add like a camera emoji or whatever and that's like you credit, like saying like this is my work.
Speaker 1:Well, we do that all the time with the studio. When people tag the studio that they took pictures here, we do little camera emoji and then usually we'll do like their handle, their social media handle. But yeah, that's a common thing that everybody does.
Speaker 2:If you do use the emojis and you don't tag someone else, it's implied that it's your work.
Speaker 2:I was looking at this and I was like this is weird. I was like maybe I'm crazy, maybe I just wasn't that creative in my video and this isn't actually mine, it's just someone who made something similar. I went and found the the whole video, because what's like also kind of funny about it is it's a clip, it's the. It's a the ending snippet of a full video I have made that's been posted on social media and I was credited in, yeah, so, um, I thought that was like kind of interesting. So I was petty and I commented and I was like I just commented whoa, sweet video, or something like that, like something passive, aggressive, yeah. And the comment like the poster original poster comments back and was like isn't it Like I can't wait till the show? Blah, blah, blah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, they didn't know.
Speaker 2:And I was like, yeah, it's just as good as when it came out of my computer. Did you say that yeah, or I'll read you exactly what I said.
Speaker 1:So this is actual legit drama that you got going on.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's a little dramatic, but I was just like I was kind of irritated, because it's one thing to be like ignorant to it and you're like it's someone's you know using, they're promoting an event and they're and they're just trying to like they're just trying to promote the event and they like aren't in the creative space and so they don't think to tag the creator or they don't know like who made it, whatever, whatever. But it's different thing when it's coming from another, like photographer or videographer, and they're using content that isn't theirs to promote something that they're going to be a part of and using like language in their captions and comments that imply that it's their work, yeah so, oh yeah.
Speaker 2:So she was like, isn't it going to be a great show? And I was like, yeah, I remember when I first made it was my comment and then she said thanks for letting me share it, trying to get this crowd fired up for the show saturday. So I was like, okay, cool yeah, she kind of knew that yeah, so then did something wrong I, we weren't.
Speaker 2:We don't follow, we're not. We don't follow each other, we don't whatever. But if you scroll through that particular musician's page, most of the videos they post are done by me and I am frequently credited. So with like a tiny bit of research could have figured that out. But also like I don't need a, I didn't need a specific credit, just don't act like it's yours.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, you know, and so then I see it was like basically saying, um, hey, like I got this, I got the video from the musicians, like, um, not their, not, not their manager, but someone that helps book this stuff, and basically sent on a media kit. Um, or he gives a media kit to like the venues and stuff for promotion and somehow this photographer that was going to shoot the show that they were, that they were playing at, got the clip. I don't know really why, but I don't know if they work for the venue or if they were hired. And then it's just weird but um, they were, they apologized and they they were like I'll tag you or credit you or whatever. I didn't see this message until I got the notification that I had been tagged in the reel.
Speaker 1:Yeah. So here's something that I don't get. I've seen this happen before and I've never had that person blatantly say oh, I made this video, I did this, and leave me out. But this whole thing could have been solved by them giving you credit. And and then the other point I wanted to make is that when people lie, it's like lying on a resume, like it's going to come out that you can't do that stuff. It's going to come out that that's not your work. It's going to come out that somebody else did that and I don't know what they benefit. I'll give you a really funny example to me that when I worked, in the TV station there's a girl that put on her resume, that she's anchored before, and had she Absolutely not.
Speaker 1:And so our news director puts her on the noon. So she's on live TV and is very, very obvious that she has never done this before. If she did, it was like one time in college and it they like probably let her do it once and like this isn't for you. But what I'm getting at is that like why would you lie about that? Because eventually you're going to have to like show that you can do these things you said you can do and that you can make this content and make it look like what they're expecting.
Speaker 2:Yeah and like yeah and I responded to her message. Like I was way later but I responded and let them know, like I didn't need the tag yeah. What I didn't like is the verbiage that you were using in the post the original post that suggested that that video was created by you and not someone else and as a photographer, and even if you want to be a videographer as well, that's what you're presenting yourself as you should, above everyone else, understand why that's not cool.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's like when musicians try to hire us to do something and they want it super cheap. I'm like we're in the same creative space. Don't you hate it when people try to hire you to play and don't want to pay?
Speaker 2:you yeah, you wouldn't play for free. So isn't it kind of weird to ask us to capture something for you for free so that you can use it to make more money, but you don't want to pay us?
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's like a, it's like a double hit.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but no that, that is.
Speaker 1:that is a weird situation, yeah.
Speaker 2:And I was, and I might've been, like a little petty and passive aggressive about it but I was. I was really irritated and I I was more irritated because this person was in this, is in the same creative space, and it's like if we're doing it to each other, then how can we really expect other people to respect us? In that way if we are not respecting each other. Nobody I don't think any photographer or videographer is necessarily expecting to be tagged in every version use of their sold deliverable yeah so, like I made, I've made plenty of videos for artists and a lot of them get used in like media kits.
Speaker 2:When they get these shows they send like that's the whole point, that's why they're hiring people like us. Yeah, so they have these, these quality things to send to promote their shows. That's not the problem, and I don't expect for every single venue or promoter for a venue, or even anybody talking about an event to tag me.
Speaker 2:Just don't act like you made it if I did that's the big sin and what's crazy too, is like not even my best work, so I'm like there are like some better ones if you want to pretend those are yours. But, like if you like, yeah.
Speaker 1:I'm trying to think if I have any other examples of somebody stealing something. The main, one.
Speaker 2:This has never happened.
Speaker 1:Nothing like this has ever happened to me before, like some you uh, you handled it exactly how I thought you would, but a little bit of peck now. It wasn't like you were going out of your way, but um yeah and it ended at that there was no other continued beef.
Speaker 2:Yeah, um, I didn't. Even when I sent my response to her messages, there was nothing back yeah and there was no it, no more comments. There was literally nothing further beyond that, and I do think that the creator handled it well. Do I believe that there's full ignorance is bliss on their part? No, yeah, but I fully respect someone being like oh my bad, and changing it, or like fixing it devil's advocate.
Speaker 1:You might have shed some light on this purse, on something this person didn't think about, because everything is about perspective, right yeah and maybe they overcompensated out of like anxiety and stuff. Yeah, yeah, and, and maybe they felt like, oh, I really didn't think about it this way, I was just trying to make this content quick.
Speaker 2:Yeah, uh, but like the whole, the camera emoji is the big, the big thing, yeah, which sounds so silly, when you like, when I say it, when you say it out loud and you're like they were using this emoji.
Speaker 1:No, no, because that's like the universal term for photo buy yeah, exactly, and like yeah exactly.
Speaker 2:So that's, and I think they were using it as they're going to be the photographer, like they're gonna be there taking pictures, yeah after receiving the message, I do think if giving that person the benefit of the doubt, I'm thinking that maybe in their head they were they're posting it as if because they are going to be the person there at that show yeah but the video you like, the video used wasn't even taken at the venue that was going to be played at. So you're like it's just. It's just a weird combination.
Speaker 1:But I guess also maybe this person's new to the space, so they don't really know but, but okay, if you were in her, in that person, it was a her right if you were in her spot.
Speaker 1:I was trying to keep it like all right, if you were in their spot, you, I'm going to guess what you would have done. Okay, if, if you, you would have made that post, the, and you had to make this post, okay, the, you got the assets from the band, the, whatever, and you did that and you might have put hey, come see me, I'm taking photos here. And then you put video credit by Samantha with the camera, sam with the cam, and that's how it would have done, because to me that's the logical way to do it, to give everybody credit, to make sure that there's not a miscommunication, that you took this stuff. Going back to doing stuff for the 1413 visuals where Studio. I used that emoji because I don't want people to think I took the photo that I'm posting, right, but I want people to see what other people are doing in the studio.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so that's Exactly Because I'm even like it's not silly.
Speaker 1:The emoji thing is not silly, it's a thing.
Speaker 2:Yeah, because, like, even when I share other people's work to like my story because I like it and I post to make sure it never appears as if I'm taking credit for it.
Speaker 2:Right For their photo, like I'm trying. I always try to make it apparent that I'm showing like love for their, their work, and not trying to be like, oh, this is this photo, is my photo? Like they shared my photo, um, and going back to like if roles were reversed, if it were me. If it were me, I mean I am. Mean I never super feel, I've never felt confident posting someone.
Speaker 1:I even think about a lot work on as, like on my feet, my profile feed okay, I've got, I've got another scenario for you, and this is one that I've seen on facebook. Um, we're kind of getting a little bit off topic, but it's like okay, but it's still in there, all right. So there's a photographer that she does minis around here and she uses other people's photos for inspiration, like she's been caught not putting photos posted, or instantly, let's say, if she wants to do.
Speaker 2:Like she literally is advertising her minis and she'll use another person's work to advertise the mini.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I've seen people do that. Actually, I'm interested to see people's thoughts on like if that's okay or not. I don't think that's cool.
Speaker 1:I don't either, and here's why and I'll back up what I'm saying you are showing somebody else's talent, how they edit, how they shoot, their knowledge of posing.
Speaker 2:That's not fair To gain a clientele for your stuff that may not even match, so you're either fishing for clients based off of someone else's work.
Speaker 1:Yep, and I'll say the right way to do it, because it's how, again, I'm practicing what I preach Valentine's day minis, what, what, what, what did I do? You did a couple, I brought you in and. I brought another couple in and I paid. I used, I used my time and took sample pictures so I can use as a as a example of what this will look like. A true to form.
Speaker 1:This is me taking the photo. This is the setup. It took time, it took money, yeah, but that's the right way to do it, and I know that not everybody has time to do that, but I don't like I wouldn't. I can never go on Pinterest, google images, whatever, and find a bunch of images and then put them as my work. And the other big sin she did was she didn't put photos for inspiration only. And that, to me, is the big one.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I think that there's a way to do that, Because I also like I think it would be different if the person like posted a photo of their empty sets, like the set that they were going to use. That's good, yeah, and then even like an image of, like a mood board they had put together and been like this is the vibe that I'm going for for these shoots.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:These are my mini whatever, whatever, whatever, whatever, whatever, whatever. But to just use someone else's photo shoot photos to advertise your photo shoots? Yeah, I think that that's not kind of gross.
Speaker 1:Cool. Yeah, I don't like it, I think it's yeah I'll. I don't like saying stuff that I don't practice what I preach, but, like I do, I do practice what I what'm saying and I think everybody should, even if it like, if you're doing some type of like Easter minis, go ahead and bring your kid out there, set it up, take some sample images and use that as your advertising, because you're showing truly what they're going to get.
Speaker 2:Yeah, or use your and not everybody has this but use your photos from the previous year or something. But yeah, if you don't have previous year photos, you and use anybody. Use your friend, use yourself and take pictures of yourself in the set, like take your own sample photos, it's your. Use your dog, use like literally put adult. I don't like you make your own sample. So, like your advertisement is going to be what your set is, it's going to be edited in your style that you edit in and like what people can expect of these photos.
Speaker 2:Otherwise, like you're using someone else's hard work yeah to make money false advertising yeah, that's icky to me, and I've seen that before too. Like, yeah people using stock images or someone else. I feel like using someone else you've seen before his work is even worse than using stock images, because that's way worse because it's the same, that that there's.
Speaker 1:There's no reason for that, because that is, I don't know, because you're going to cause conflict, because that person is not going to be happy with you. Everybody else is going to know, that knows. The other photographer is going to know that you're doing this gross thing. That is a no-win.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I agree, no-win. Yeah, I don't like that. Actually, I've thought so many times about posting, like a question thing or whatever poll on social media, because I've seen people do that and I'm like, and it's like, is this a like? Are we all cool with this? Like, is this normal, or am I just being a hater or is this? But I just don't think that. I think you should post some version of your own work to promote a way that you're going to make money.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Kind of segue into just people like us on social media as a whole. I see all these different like trends and meme, like content about how, being a photographer, videographer, what have you any kind of artist? We're no longer just an artist Like now. We also have to be content creators and social media managers and even like so, I do music, you know, band photography, whatever and a lot of people who are doing it big league. They're not just the band photographer, the band media, they're the tour manager, merch person, the like they're wearing five hats just to be able to, um, create, to take pictures or do video, as well as still like having to build the social media presence to gain clients, um, and I feel like I sense more frustration about it than joy and I guess, like what, how? Like?
Speaker 1:I feel like that's something that you're experiencing specifically as well, right now, because you're trying to advertise the studio and stuff I'm semi-new to it because, um, I've only had the studio for like seven or eight months, but I think my and I think I like creating the content. Okay, I hate posting it. I hate it. I hate coming up with the captions.
Speaker 2:I don't.
Speaker 1:Every time I've tried the chat, gpt stuff and it seems like a robot is typing it. And that's where Tracy has been awesome. Because we have a shared album, I post my content to there. I do what I do good at what I'm good at the video and video and audio stuff and send it to her and she comes up and she posts and she has been killing it and I know that everybody's not lucky to have somebody that is different brained than you are and that's what she is, but that I genuinely like doing the, the video stuff, and I think I've been kind of like figuring out what the 1413 Visuals brand is and I see results when I post my stupid face on stuff with me talking and as dumb as it is, I don't mind doing it.
Speaker 1:Like yesterday I built those triangle set pieces and I'm like, well, I need to show off how big these things are. And it kind of goes back to what we were just talking about, where you want to show people what you can do with it, right, and so I'm like I need to do a video that checks a few boxes. Number one I need people to, and this is an Instagram video. I need people to see how big they are, so I need to be in there there when you sat in front of them.
Speaker 1:Yes, yes, and like my, I love building stuff. But me decorating a set, I can do it, but I like to see what other people can do and that's what I wanted people to think outside the box of just in I could pose with these wooden triangle things.
Speaker 1:Well, they're more than that like get creative with it, come up with cool ideas yeah but that all goes back to, like the marketing side, and that's what I'm dipping my toes in, even when I don't know it. Like it's just, I'm talking about the features, and the features are what people will want to to use and that's the whole. The whole studio is like that. It's like showing people what's possible and then getting them in here to play around, figure something out and and make something that's cool.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and I guess I was more, and I think you guys are doing a great job. I see a lot of frustration. Does it ever frustrate you that you feel like you have to be a social media, like a content creator and not just like especially someone who's been in the industry for so long?
Speaker 1:Yeah, it does, because it's frustrating because I I am along with running the studio, I'm still doing my corporate video stuff, I still have deadlines I have to meet, I still have to keep the studio like looking good, like like today. I gotta, when we're finished with this, I've got to paint the wall because it's starting to look gross and I don't want my wall to look blotchy, whatever. But I still have that list of stuff I've got to do and one of the things Tracy does is she has a list of stuff, content, ideas, and I will say when I edit, like let's say, if I have a week of editing, I can't just sit at the computer the whole like for hours and I got to get up and move around and a lot of times during those editing breaks I'll make the social media stuff. Now I will take too long on social media stuff Cause I it. To me it's it's a little bit more fun than editing, Um, but I I try to work it in anytime I can.
Speaker 2:Yeah. So, yeah, I understand the frustration because it does sometimes feel like just another task bullet point on our list that we have to do. But I mean, marketing yourself has always been a thing. It's just now the easiest and largest way to market yourself.
Speaker 1:And cheapest and cheapest yeah.
Speaker 2:Is through social media, and I think it's like, honestly, I think you're only holding yourself back to not utilize social media to market yourself, and this goes for more than just photographers, videographers, but this is something I tell musicians all the time too, um, and anybody I mean. Running social media is one of my, a large part of my job, um, and I just think it's silly if you're not utilizing such a free source to everything.
Speaker 1:Yeah, in 2025, if, if it doesn't matter if you're a musician, owner of a car dealership, owner of whatever, if you're not utilizing social media.
Speaker 2:What are you doing over there? I'm having a lot of pain.
Speaker 1:Oh, because you're a runner now.
Speaker 2:This is such a crazy jump back to the topic, but I feel like a lot of the frustration with social media use for creators is because we've had such a bad experience with it for so long. Like this is my plea. This is my plea to all photographers and videographers out there she's looking in the camera.
Speaker 2:That means that get out of the facebook groups. Go to the other social media platforms and like and and interact with people on there. Not that they're not all of the other ones are perfect. I've seen the same behavior on Instagram, um, and especially on threads. Threads is literally like photographers on threads are like you're inside the beginner photography group on facebook. Remove yourself from those groups. They're toxic people. Just people that are unhappy in the industry sit on those facebook groups waiting to tell people they hate their work. Get out of those. But like the rest of social media, it can be such like a powerful thing where you find the rest of social media.
Speaker 2:It can be such like a powerful thing where you find A your ideal client the clientele that maybe might not be sitting right next to you or right down the street, but is looking for your style, your aesthetic, your work and just doesn't know you yet, but then also can surround yourself with more of a community of people who do what you do. Because I was pretty lonely in the creative space around here for a long time and social media is kind of how I found other photographers and videographers.
Speaker 1:Selfie.
Speaker 2:Yeah, in the space Like. It's really how I connected to people outside of my immediate friend group that liked the things, because none of my close friends are. Well, when I started, none of my close friends were photographers or videographers, so that was how I met people also doing the same thing and got to interact with people that were doing the same stuff as me. So, like, use social media to your advantage and find the people you need to find, but leave, for the love of god, leave the facebook. Just leave the photography facebook groups. All of your negative energy around photography on social media. It's coming from that. It's coming from that and the people who bring that energy to the internet yeah, I'll add something to that.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so if you're, if you're a beginning photographer and you want to learn, and you think I agree with you, a facebook, you a Facebook group, they're all. They're just going to poo, poo on whatever you post, whatever Don't go there.
Speaker 2:My first instinct was to join those groups when I was like learning it's not the place to learn. They don't want to teach you, they just want to tell you that you shouldn't be doing it because they've already been doing it for 20 use google first before you ask questions and youtube and I would argue, youtube is even better, which I mean google should take you to youtube.
Speaker 2:But yes, yes, go the internet. The difference between now and when all of the people who rant on facebook are that you can learn so much about the craft on youtube for free so.
Speaker 1:But I will say, if you run into a question that you really need to answer and you don't have anybody like in your physical world that you could ask Reddit. Reddit's a good one I've had. I've been the new person. I'll give you an example the turntables you know the record player, right, I have one that was my grandfather's. I, the Alanu, was the needle. There's all types of terminology. The turntables you know the record player, right, I have one that was my grandfather's. I, the alan, knew was the needle. There's all types of terminology.
Speaker 1:But again, I didn't know like I needed a new needle because ian went and smashed it and I went up there and I tried to give. I went to the turntable subreddit and I was like, look, here's the deal, this is what I got. I included pictures. I don't even know what to type in to search like is this a stylus, is this a needle, is this a whatever? And I got answers. And I got answers from people that are experienced and they're like oh see that you have the dual 1275. Well, here's a link to the ebay product that should get you like that's the type of thing that reddit does give. You're going, that's the type of thing that Reddit does give. You're going to get like buttholes that are going to be like oh, technically it's this and that you have them everywhere.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah. But Reddit is where I've had good luck. Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:Or even just like. I mean, I've had good luck. I personally have had great luck on platforms like Instagram, but I've seen people not have. And it always comes down to like the different trends in the industry. That's where, again, the people who have been unhappily doing this too long hate to see someone with less experience have a little success for some reason.
Speaker 2:They hate it and they're just shitty on social media and like, just don't let those people ruin it, block them, do whatever you got to do.
Speaker 2:But, like in general, every time I've put myself out there in on the different platforms as photographer, video, a creative, I've met new people.
Speaker 2:I've found people that have similar tastes, like an similar um in style as me, and I've made friends around it.
Speaker 2:So, like, if you're getting started, post uh, just uh, post a reel on one whatever platform you like to use, a short form video on whatever platform you like to use, introducing yourself, even just maybe saying like the state that you're from and like what kind of photography you do. I promise you you're bound to find a couple other people that are in that same area doing a similar thing and all of a sudden now you have a couple people that you can follow and interact with, maybe learn a few things from whatever that complete negative overload from that comes with like a freaking Facebook photography group and I don't know what the. I don't know what the appeal is of just tearing somebody down on social media and I hate the argument of like you, when you put yourself, when you put it on the internet, you put yourself out there like you are risking that, that's no yeah that's not an excuse for you to act like a asshole on the internet like you, it's.
Speaker 2:It's totally okay for you to not like someone's work. It's totally okay for it not to be a fit. It's totally okay for you to be like hey, the saturation is super high on this. You can, if you turn it down, yeah, you'll get this type of look or whatever. Um, some sort of solution to the critique. Okay, constructive criticism is allowed.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, so what you said right there. I try to stand by. This rule is if somebody asks for criticism, I'll give them criticism, but I got to offer a solution. Like, if you don't offer a solution, you're just being mean.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's different between being like, if you do this technique differently, you'll get this result or you'll get. If you're going for this editing style, try lifting your shadow. I don't know just all these examples, but if your comment is just oh well, you can tell you are a shitty photographer yeah, that oh you can tell you don't know what you're doing. Oh, this looks like my, my third grader could take a better picture and it's like what, what? What good came out of that?
Speaker 2:absolutely nothing yeah, like, and then nobody can figure out why the space among creators is so hostile all the time.
Speaker 1:You know what time it is. Song of the Week. That's right, all right. Who wants to go first? You want me to go first?
Speaker 2:Well, you switched to you, so.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I didn't mean to Do. You have your song.
Speaker 2:Well, you switched to you so yeah, I didn't mean to Do, you have your song.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, my song is actually a cover song of an artist that I like, so Kid Cudi. Oh okay, that's not what I thought you were going to say, and it's covered by an artist named Lizzy and there's a live version of it and the song is Pursuit of Happiness, one of my favorite songs, originally done by Kid Cudi and MGMT, and her live version has her singing and I call it real instrumentation. But like live instruments way to ruin my song of the week would you bump the mic?
Speaker 1:but it's okay but yeah, pursuit of Happiness. Lizzie's live version um, originally done by kit cuddy. Just uh, yeah, that was my song of the week. What's yours?
Speaker 2:so my last weekend not the weekend, we just had the weekend before I went to a three-day concert thing. One of the openers is a band called the drop tines, and I hadn't really heard a lot of them before, but I saw them live and they were so awesome. So my song of the week is by them, it's called New Girl, and all of their songs.
Speaker 2:They didn't sing a bad song, but this song was the one that everyone loved beforehand, was like obsessed with, and there was a girl standing next to me who was a little intoxicated and she kept screaming, screaming new girl, the whole show and they finally sang it at the end um, and it was just as good live as it is recorded, but it's, give it a listen, you would love it, it's how would you describe it like if you had to use like mainstream bands that? Oh, I can't use a mainstream I cannot think of a mainstream band that compares. They're not. It's not a mainstream sound. It's very like. It's very grunge. Give it a listen. It's so you're gonna like. You'll like the whole band.
Speaker 1:You listen to one song, you'll like the whole band they're such a cool band now are you saying that just generally to everybody, or me to you?
Speaker 2:okay, um, because you know kind of what, yeah you'll like it and I I like it a lot. I've been kind of hyper-fixating on the music they have out. So yeah, new Girl by the Drop Tines, that's my song of the week.
Speaker 1:I guess I'll have to check it out.
Speaker 2:I will add these to the playlist.
Speaker 1:Oh cool.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I don't think I added last week, but I'll add it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, they don't know?
Speaker 2:Yeah, nobody knows. Nobody's listening to our playlist.
Speaker 1:No, this is actually, but you should listen, yeah, you should, yeah, yeah, all right. Well, that's all folks. That's all folks. See you later, bye.