HeartMath and the Healing Power of Animals with Tricia Sybersma

In this episode of Closer to Venus, host Johnny Burke speaks with Tricia Sybersma, an author, certified HeartMath trainer, and founder of Heart Works. They discuss the transformative power of combining science, energy, animals, and art through Heart Works. Tricia explains how HeartMath techniques foster heart-brain coherence and why the heart's energy is crucial. She shares her journey into Heart Works, channeling wisdom from animals, and the profound connection they have with humans. The conversation also touches on how animals communicate, create artwork, and act as collaborators in spiritual transformation. Tricia emphasizes the importance of gratitude, connecting with nature, and recognizing the energy within all beings to catalyze personal growth and deeper levels of consciousness.

00:00 Introduction to Tricia Sybersma and Heart Works

00:37 Understanding HeartMath and Heart Coherence

02:09 The Inspiration Behind Heart Works

02:57 The Power of Animals in Healing and Channeling

03:53 Channeling Experiences and Animal Communication

12:57 The Unique Art of Animal Painting

15:29 HeartMath Techniques and Their Impact

19:20 Connecting with Animals for Spiritual Transformation

27:01 Past Life Resonance and Animal Reincarnation

29:16 Final Thoughts and How to Connect

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Transcript

Johnny Burke: Welcome to Closer to Venus. I'm Johnny Burke, and today's guest is Tricia Sybersma. She is an author, certified HeartMath trainer and founder of Heart Works, a collective that utilizes animal collaborators to channel healing and intention through their art. In this episode, we'll explore how science, energy, animals, and art equals transformation and change, and how each of these forces show upin our daily lives through Heart Works. Tricia, welcome to the program.

Tricia Sybersma: Oh wow. I'm so pleased and excited to be here.

Johnny Burke: Being excited is always good. So you are a HeartMath trainer, so what is the connection between Heartmath and Heart Coherence?

Tricia Sybersma: All right. Well, the HeartMath system is techniques to create heart brain coherence in the moment, eyes open. They have a number of foundational quick and easy techniques to help people shift. And they also have deeper studies into their techniques and practices, but it is designed to shift as life's happening.

Johnny Burke: Now, the, HeartMath, heart coherence and so forth is something that we're hearing a lot about lately. Does it have anything to do with how the energy from the heart is several hundred times more powerful than that of the mind?

Tricia Sybersma: Yes. And it has a lot to do with what they can prove now scientifically that the heart is sending more information out to the brain and the body. the brain is sending down into the heart and body. So they can scientifically prove now that it’s reversed. That the heart is really the one in charge.

Johnny Burke: The heart. It's called the heart for a reason, right? Yeah.

Tricia Sybersma: And personally, I like to call it also a portal. And the mind is rest somewhere in between. So you have your heart, you have your brain, and the mind is a place where those two start to merge and involve our feelings and emotions.

Johnny Burke: So how did you get started with Heart Works. What was the inspiration?

Tricia Sybersma: Well. Before coming on, I did listen to some of your other podcasts and they were wonderful. So I am laying it out there.

Johnny Burke: Sure.

Tricia Sybersma: There's a movie called The Holiday where Cameron Diaz plays, a trailer writer and it all through the movie, she stops and her trailer start playing in her head. me. That is what happened to me when I was sitting on an airplane, I wasn't thinking about the horses at all. And wham! They came in and explained everything and I just started typing out the notes, the notes and more notes and. Then as soon as we landed, I sent it to my support people. And we just didn't even question it. We were just like, absolutely, let's do this.

Johnny Burke: Animals are, I guess, a lot more powerful than most people think it sounds like 

Tricia Sybersma: Oh yeah, there's a lot going on with animals. Some people say to me, I've been working with horses for a long time and in a lot of different ways from traditional training to natural horsemanship to rescuing . People would always say to me, ‘well, they don't have a frontal cortex. ‘And then I say back ' cause they don't need one. ' They're connected. Our frontal cortex is what gets in the way. I think that's part of our journey to train our frontal cortex. But horses not only act as their individual horse beings, but they're also part of a collective. And so, when they dropped this. heart works into my knowing, they were speaking to me as a collective so they can speak individually and as a group consciousness.

Johnny Burke: Group consciousness triggers the thought of channeling. So have you ever had experiences in channeling before you started Heart Works?

Tricia Sybersma: Yes. We all begin this journey channeling and then through our experiences, and maybe it's a teacher, we shut it down often, I never did. I was always that young kid in the playground who always believed that there were magical beings around me, and I could sense and see that there was just more happening.

Then as I got older my life took its twists and turns, nature started to channel to me during recovery from some really challenging events. They taught me about seasons. They taught me about the cycle of life. They taught me a lot about gratitude. And then from there, as I opened and trusted and opened and trusted, I could really sense what the animals were saying to me. And it is more of a sense. Sometimes it's words, sometimes it's a feeling, and sometimes it's just a real inner knowing.  HeartMath actually address the ways that we perceive intuition and this way is called non-local, which means you really don't know where it's coming from, but you feel the truth of it.

Johnny Burke: So when you talk about channeling, if you were to compare channeling with animals to channeling, let's say, star beings. Is it easy for you to get your head around, or not necessarily?

Tricia Sybersma: Yeah, easy. It’s like turning a radio dial. Animals are over here on this radio frequency and it's all frequency.

Johnny Burke: It's all frequency. 

Tricia Sybersma: They just have a different feel. And within that animal channel, each of my four mares, my mare horses, female horses, they all have a different feel. So I know who it is by how they feel. Is it bossy? So that must be Sophie. Is it really warm and grounded? That must be Gwen. Is it cosmic? Then that's Phoenix. And you can see how my expressions change as I talk about them within even the way they speak to me, there's nuances.

Johnny Burke: Since you've channeled with animals, have you channeled any other beings besides the horses? And I know there's more. I think there's cats and dogs as well. 

Tricia Sybersma: Yeah. One cat. And one dog. Yeah.

Johnny Burke: okay.

Tricia Sybersma: Trees, plants, different insects, different, like nature being moss. I love talking to moss and fireflies. Occasionally, I have ongoing conversations with- you can call them guides, you can call them celestial beings, angelics, there's a lot of activity out there. Just waiting, just waiting to connect with us.

Johnny Burke: So when you say celestial beings, angels, and those type of beings, do you actually get a visual of them or not really?

Tricia Sybersma: I get an inner sight of them, which is just beautiful lights. They have form. It’s like a body, like a humanoid sort of form, but very luminescence I just wanted to just pivot to trees just quickly. The most beautiful thing I heard about trees, and I've experienced this. Trees wear bark because they want to be with us. If we saw trees in their essence, in their energy essence form, we wouldn't be able to stand under them or be near them because their radiance is too much for our human third dimensional biology. So they chose to put bark on so they could be in our backyards, and they could be in our playgrounds and be in our parks, and we can hug them and touch them and sit under them, and I experienced that charge when I put my hands on them.

Johnny Burke: So Mother earth really is alive, obviously. It sounds like it. So what was it that made you realize that these animals can be collaborators in what you call spiritual transformation? 

Tricia Sybersma: Well, horses have been in therapy since the six hundreds.

Johnny Burke: Therapy?

Tricia Sybersma: If you Google when did horse therapy become a thing? As far back as six hundred. There's documentation on how they used horses mostly for physical rehabilitation. However, biologically horses in particular, their heart emits an electromagnetic energy that's five times greater than a person.

So sometimes when people express to me that they're afraid of horses, I often wonder and I talk to them about it, is it the horse or is it this wave energy they're healing. And when you don't understand something, sometimes your default is to be afraid of it. Just standing near a horse, you are surrounded and embraced by heart energy, you just are. 

Johnny Burke: It sounds like it. 

Tricia Sybersma: Because they emit five times stronger than we do. That positions them really well. They also like to co-regulate. Their natural state is to be coherent. And if they're in the presence of a human who's not coherent, they use their heart energy to calm, soothe, and bring that other person into coherence. Being a prey animal, which means they're hunted, they're very aware of their energy and that results in not wanting to spend any extra energy that they don't have to deal with someone who is in fight or flight, so they want to shift that person, so then they're more comfortable and they can then save their energy.

Johnny Burke: It sounds to me like the animals are not only good at channeling and directing heart energy as you say, but they're also very, very intelligent.

Tricia Sybersma: Well, you might be preaching to the converted over here. But 

Johnny Burke: Okay.

Tricia Sybersma: I feel that they're very intelligent. and, they have their individual intelligence, but again, they are connected to the field, they're connected to the collective. They don't have an ego in there saying, You know, they're not being challenged. They just know.

Johnny Burke: When you say the field, are you talking about astral planes or the energy field that surrounds us, or what exactly is that?

Tricia Sybersma: I think it's related, the energy field starting down in a atom level, atoms are more wave or energy than particles. And if we're made up of atoms. Then every one of our cells is more energy than actual biological particles. And energy is talking to each other.

Johnny Burke: Okay. These animals, I believe they're horses and a cat and a dog. They actually create artwork. How does that actually happen?

Tricia Sybersma: I will say that everything is done with permission. As soon as this came through, the first thing we did is we used channeling plus biofeedback technology to ask each of the animals who wanted to participate. And we asked them every time we paint 'cause permission is really important for me and for them. So we will sometimes paint in theme. Sometimes we choose a theme. Sometimes they choose the theme. We bring them into the barn. We clear the barn's energy. We prepare their painting space. They paint without ropes, halters, no bribing. They get excited, ears forward. Remember they told me how they wanted to do it. So I'm just following what they already suggested.

We didn't have to train them. The first time we had to figure out how to prepare their space, but they already knew what they were doing. They use their mouth. We do cover the surface with food-grade plastics, so they don't get paint in their mouth, but they use their lips. Horses' lips are like fingers. That's why you hear stories about them opening gates. And they can open doors, and they can get into things that they shouldn't, because their lips are just like fingers. They're very flexible and they have a lot of control over how to use them. They can undo clips. They can undo zippers. They're really clever that way.

Johnny Burke: The animals are actually doing the painting then, which is pretty incredible. For those of you that are listening to the audio only version, I'm going to ask Trisha about the painting behind her. At some point, we'll put out some of the shorts that'll show this, but that painting behind you, was that actually done by one of your animals?

Tricia Sybersma: Yes, this is a painting by Scout, and it is his gratitude painting and actually it's two scarves hanging side by side. We digitize the paintings and then we make them wearable so that you can have them with you.

Johnny Burke: So the animals actually know what the theme is or what they're actually trying to do. How does the heart math system and the Heart Brain Coherence  help us open the doors to deeper levels of consciousness?How does that work?

Tricia Sybersma: I'm getting little horse bumps. I really love that. I really love that question. And it's not a coincidence that paintings are called Heart Works, and I am very involved with HeartMath. Once you start practicing heartbreak coherence, once you start connecting to your heart in that way, you shift out of fight or flight, you gain access to the centers of your brain. There is a lot going on up there in terms of the electrochemical nature of our brain as a transmitter. So once your heart sends a signal to your brain to say we're safe it's safe, we can open up. Then you have access to not only information about yourself but also access to information surrounding you. We'll say the field again. You're really ramping up your antenna on your radio.

Johnny Burke: This field that you're talking about, is that in any way connected or similar to, let's say the Akashic Records?

Tricia Sybersma: The Akashic Records are records where the field is dynamic and ever changing. The information in the field is now, it's not a record of what's happened. It's happening in real time.

Johnny Burke: So, it is similar or not really?

Tricia Sybersma: There's probably a lot of opinions out there. Like record as in a filing cabinet. So, it's storing, it's like history. 

Johnny Burke: Like the records, right? Exactly. Yeah, that's what I thought. All right.

Tricia Sybersma: When you tap into- when open up your intuition and your imagination, your ability to receive information, you're receiving information that's happening right now.

I know the horses are listening to Well, good. can feel them. They're kind of snickering a little. Oh, you humans, you humans! 

Johnny Burke: Are they saying, 'oh, you silly humans, but it's a good thing you're on Closer To Venus’ I hope? Okay, so the painting, speaking of which, you have wearable items and you describe them as intention fused , I believe. What does that exactly mean?

Tricia Sybersma: One of the things they wanted to do, because there's other animals that paint and this is happening, whenever anybody creates something, their energy isn't what they've created.  So the animals are rescue animals. They've all overcome certain challenges in their journey, and so they wanted to share those survivor energies with others and infuse it into what they're creating.

Johnny Burke: What would you say is the closest thing or practice to Heart Works and what you're doing with animals and the art. Is there anything else out there that's actually like that?

Tricia Sybersma: The first thing that comes to mind is if you do have animals in your life, look at them a little differently. There's way more going on there than what we sense at the surface. I love to send gratitude so to even look at the dog or cat or salamander or whatever you have fish, just say thank you. I know there's more. Show me more. Ask them to show you more. And maybe you might get an insight, you might get a dream, you might get something happen maybe not today, maybe a week, a week into the future, something might happen. And you'll go, wow, that was you. Right? And so invite them into your transformation journey with your hands on them and as you care for them. 'cause another layer of this is to talk about animal welfare. Right. And I've always been a huge spokesperson for that. and to really take care of other beings we share the planet with.

Johnny Burke: Your practice and what you're doing with the animals, how does that actually help us to do that?

Tricia Sybersma: Yes. So I want to say a lot. 

Johnny Burke: Do it.

Tricia Sybersma: When we're listening in gratitude with an open heart, as humans, it's hard for us to multitask, right? So when we're sitting in that curiosity, we can't be judgmental and curious at the same time. They're actually kind of opposites, right?

Johnny Burke: It's a very good point. 

Tricia Sybersma: And so, shifting from seeing the world from lenses of, criticism or competition or being judgmental or assuming instead of that shifting into curiosity and looking beyond what's right in front of us, like an animal would do. They're reading the energy we're putting out and comparing it to our expressions in the tone of our voice. And that's the thing, like we can't hide how we're really feeling from animals. They see right through it. 

Johnny Burke: Yes.

Tricia Sybersma: So spending more time in that place will then shift our baseline of how we are apt to think into a more positive place. So the next time something we see a headline, we see something, or hear a comment that we would normally drop into judgment or even anger about all of a sudden, it's like, I'm just going to be curious about that. And HeartMath teaches this too.

HeartMath actually teaches our human superpower is we can choose how we feel. We've been led to believe otherwise, we can actually be in a situation where we're having a lower vibrational emotional experience and know it's not helping anybody. And in that moment, we can choose to be neutral. We can choose to be more understanding. We can choose to be a better listener. With a couple of awareness breaths, you shift right into that place. And as long as we generate it in the heart, since the message to the brain and the brain has to follow the heart's message. The trouble is we're not sending enough messages up there regularly, but when we get good at it and we send that message to the brain, the brain and the body responds. And then we become more compassionate, better listeners, more curious, instead of the other way of being.

Johnny Burke: So in layman's terms, your point about how we should be sending more messages to the heart instead of the heart sending more messages to the brain, how do we actually do that?

Tricia Sybersma: By breathing in and out of your heart space and deciding I am going to bring in patience. feel it in your heart. Feel the energy of patience and trust that, and then it will do its own thing, and it will generate and it will radiate through our bodies, sending those signals out to our brain, to our nervous system that we are now falling the directive of being patient. You can change a whole room of people by doing that without saying a word. All of a sudden, maybe we were sitting there radiating orange, but now we're radiating green.

Johnny Burke: Or purple, something like that..

Tricia Sybersma: yeah.

Johnny Burke: Okay. So it, it's worthwhile for us whether we are around animals or not. to try to breathe from the heart. 

Tricia Sybersma: Heart-Focused Breathing. It's an actual technique. A HeartMath foundational technique.

Johnny Burke: It sounds to me like we're going to be hearing a lot more about heart math and heart coherence, but you also believe that heart works, can help people reconnect with the soul purpose or even a past life resonance. Is that true?

Tricia Sybersma: Yes, yes.

Johnny Burke: All right.

Tricia Sybersma: Animals by being animals can sometimes do more for us than another person. W we have attachments to what people represent.

Johnny Burke: Could that explain why some people literally have signs in their offices? Saying, I prefer animals and I'll tolerate humans. 

Tricia Sybersma: Oh yeah, I would say so. 

Johnny Burke: Okay. All right. 

Tricia Sybersma: The animals know, like the animals are unconditional love. They are. We have the potential to be.

Johnny Burke: Now speaking of past life resonance, do you have any experience with that yourself?

Tricia Sybersma: I know that I have traveled with my horses through lifetimes,

Johnny Burke: Okay. Do you have the actual memories then?

Tricia Sybersma: One in particular. so, I do live in the Caribbean, and I moved with this horse from the Caribbean up to Canada. First winter in an arena, snow was falling off the roof. She lost her mind. And everything I knew to do didn't have a lasting calming effect. So, I talked to one of my animal communicators, one of my mentors, and to find out how she was perceiving the situation so we could help her. And she told us plainly, “We were here, we were in a battle. There was shroud, metal balling from the sky and I was just trying to save you.” So, when you change locations, you can trigger different timelines.

Johnny Burke: Okay.

Tricia Sybersma: So, her moving from the Caribbean to Canada triggered a timeline that rose up with the sound of the snow falling off the arena roof . She was reliving that again. And so, we were able then to say, thank you. Always. Thank you. We are here now. This is current. We're not in battle, and so we were able to use a different language to help her through the physical memory of being in that situation.

Johnny Burke: And that's not the first time I've heard, stories or should I say accounts of animals reincarnating with their- I don't want to say owners, but in other words, right. with their humans. So what are the most important things that we can take away from your experience with the art and the animals and the channeling ?

Tricia Sybersma: They have a message for me to share about that.This is what they wanted me to share. You look at us horses in wonder, in awe, but we are just horses. Look in the mirror. You are human. We have come through at this time and in this way as a catalyst to invite you to open your hearts and see each other with the same wonder and awe in which you see us. Our energy expressions are here to help and support your heart opening in love and gratitude, the heart. 

Johnny Burke: Unconditional love. Excellent. Tricia. Very, very cool stuff. Thanks for joining us tonight. We're going to be hearing a lot more about heart works and heart math and heart coherence in the future. So, in the meantime, how can our listeners find you online?

Tricia Sybersma: Heart works.Horse.

Johnny Burke: Okay. Instagram as well?

Tricia Sybersma: our YouTube channel is fantastic. There's lots of videos of them painting.

There's meditations with them and Instagram is very active. We pretty much upload different videos of them being horses and also profound messages,