Mediumship and Spiritual Connections with Cheryl Murphy

In this episode of Closer to Venus, host Johnny Burke welcomes Cheryl Murphy, a clairvoyant, psychic medium, ordained minister, certified hypnotherapist, and host of the Seeing Beyond Living Transformed podcast. Cheryl discusses her journey from metaphysical studies to becoming a medium, the overlap between mediumship and channeling, and the growing acceptance of spiritual practices within the religious community. They also delve into the concept of light beings, past life regression, and the unique ways through which Cheryl aids her clients. Highlighting her personal experiences with angelic beings, loved ones' visitation dreams, and her insights on transitioning, Cheryl underscores the comforting belief that no one dies alone. Her podcast aims to raise awareness and provide healing through mediums and various esoteric practices.

00:00 Introduction to Cheryl Murphy

00:38 Journey to Becoming a Psychic Medium

04:01 Mediumship and Channeling Explained

08:15 Experiences with Non-Human Entities

17:45 Past Life Regression and Personal Experiences

22:48 Guiding Meditation with Intuition

23:36 Exploring Past and Future Lives

24:45 Understanding Time and Regression

31:24 Connecting with Loved Ones

36:57 The Spirit Party Experience

40:15 Podcast and Final Thoughts

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Transcript

Johnny Burke: Welcome to Closer to Venus. I'm Johnny Burke, and today's guest is Cheryl Murphy. She is a clairvoyant, psychic medium, an ordained minister, certified hypnotherapist and host of the Seeing Beyond Living Transformed podcast.

She's oriented her practice as a spiritual medium towards channeling loved ones who have passed over and psychometry. this episode, we'll discuss how Cheryl channels deported loved ones and uses her abilities to guide clients in making life path decisions. Cheryl, welcome to the program.

Cheryl Murphy: Thanks for having me, Johnny. It feels great to be here.

Johnny Burke: How did you find yourself on this path? How did you go from being an ordained minister to a psychic medium? Or was it the other way around? 

Cheryl Murphy:  Both really. I was studying metaphysics and the paranormal, parapsychology, mediumship, psychic, anything intuitive, even energy healing, right? So anything that I could open my awareness up with, and being [ an ordained minister really did seem like a natural step for me. So I did step to the side or take a break from my metaphysical studies and followed this path of connecting with spirit, learning about the soul. God, source energy, the universe, and I believe it helped me or complimented the work that I do as a medium and a psychic.

Johnny Burke: Interesting so that you didn't see a conflict between, the canon of the church, And the metaphysical world, which doesn't necessarily discount, Christ or the presence of, source energy and so forth, but there are some sticking points. So you didn't really experience that then?

Cheryl Murphy: I haven't really experienced anything or even since it really did help me in some way and just, I believe the beautiful people that I worked with, that I was around, that I attracted in my life, I feel like they too felt spiritually drawn to work with me. But it is more of a serious commitment, right? Stepping into the ministry. You really have to understand that there is, even greater respect or reverence. So, I really just try to be as patient or understanding. I did try to help open minds up along the way, or ideas of faith, in some way I believe it helped.

Johnny Burke: Interesting. So do you think, there's a movement within, clergy, the religious world where they're becoming a little bit more open-minded about mediumship and channeling and things like that?

Cheryl Murphy: I do, I believe they're  becoming more, relaxed, as you're saying. More open. I do believe they're having conversations now where before I believe it wasn't so spoken about. Now it's more mainstream now they're open to the idea of it. And I do believe that, you know, a lot of them are very progressive nowadays.

So we are even stepping into, like you said, a movement or a, a real shift with, Christianity or the church and being more open to different ways to perceive  source the universe, God, our own energy love, right? Which is what it all comes down to.

Johnny Burke: Always. That’s what I'm told constantly. And there's also a the type that are spiritualist ministers where they embrace mediumship within context of their practice. It's not like it's anything new, but it's not really the norm yet,

Cheryl Murphy: Right. the spiritualist church is much more popular abroad or across the pond in the UK  but yes, the spiritualist following is growing out here. There are more churches in my area even, but they're still hard to find. And yeah, the spiritualist believes in the afterlife. There are mediums in the spiritualist church.

They encourage us to connect with loved ones. I've been to many services where a medium will stand up and give readings during the service. So it feels much feels like home and very welcoming.

Johnny Burke: Very progressive. Definitely. So, you channel those that have passed over, right? How is channeling different from mediumship or is it really not that different?

Cheryl Murphy: I would like to say that they overlap each other. Mediumship specifically connects the work that I do as, as evidential medium is I am connecting with departed loved ones. So I'm connecting with your friends, your family, people that you know, channeling in some way also opens up the field even more.

You could be channeling other beings or other dimensions; you could be channeling guides and angels. But I do feel in my work as an evidential medium, that I am channeling in a way, 'cause I'm bringing through the spirit or I'm, hoping to bring through and interpreting the information as beautifully and as accurately as I can.

I'd always like to say that I work for the Voice of spirit, right? That's my employer, so to speak. They always have a need to come through the spirit world, and I want to bring through their message. I want to bring through their love and their understanding, their  support to their loved ones who are here. I always feel that I represent the voice of spirit.

Johnny Burke: I like how you position yourself as an employee for spirit. We work for them. I'm actually pretty surprised I've not heard it before, but it does make sense, and I think we need more people working for Spirit. Speaking of mediumship, I've got some questions about the channeling as well, but the consensus seems to be that the medium is not really supposed to ask personal info of the sitter, and I've also been told that the less info the sitter gives them, the better. Do you agree?

Cheryl Murphy: it's very true because our goal as a medium is to prove, the survival of consciousness, the survival of personality in the soul. So the more information we're given from the sitter is less information that we can bring through. So it's true. It's like, let us bring through the information for you.

Johnny Burke: Yeah, a hundred percent. So can we assume that I'm going to be the sitter in this example. I go to a medium and he or she starts asking me questions like, who do you want to come through? Who do you want to meet? Or however they do that that's pretty much a red flag, isn't it?

Cheryl Murphy: Well, I'll have to say that mediums work differently, right? So every medium works differently; we have to get comfortable knowing that each medium has their own style. It is okay to allow the spirit world to step in and whomever comes through will come through. We have to kind of surrender to that as well.

But yeah, sometimes it's okay to ask who is it that you'd like to hear from? Or is this the person you want to hear from? because usually with the time allowed you know, hoping to bring that message through, we can only ask the spirit world, if they'll come through. It's really their choice if they do or not.

But once again, mediums work differently. So I feel that it's nice to, go to a medium through a referral, or find out how long they've been working as a medium. You know, it's good to get to know them first. Like you could watch their videos or their website, the newsletter, just get a feel for them. And then perhaps when you feel drawn to a particular medium, then that will be your medium.

Johnny Burke: Okay. About the channeling, you mentioned that channeling - it's like another universe almost, right? what is your experiences with what you just described as other beings, like non-human entities, that type of 

Cheryl Murphy: right. right. Well, the work that I do is trance medium. So I do trance. I sit in meditation. I go into a trance state. That's also a channeling experience where you're connecting and bringing through energies. So I have certainly channeled whether I'm speaking to a client, whether I am writing like automatic writing or freestyle writing, that could be channeling.

So we have to really open up our consciousness or our mind to understand that there's different ways of channeling. One of my experiences was, uh, when the angels came to me and really put me on this path. Full time. I had two celestial beings right in front of me. This is in the middle of the day because I had been asking in my meditation for help, like, please help me, what am I to do next? Right? I want to do more of this work. How do I do it? How do I reach more people? They came to me. I had this amazing experience where the whole energy in my living room changed the lights, went out. The white light came in, so to speak. 

The angels came to me and said that they wanted me to do their work for them, like they wanted me to be their voice, and they needed more people to help reach as many people as they could. So they were asking me, please, please work full time. Like, we'll help you make this your vocation. Which of course, it's very hard to walk away from this type of work. 'cause it's such a part of you, it's such a part of your soul and, and your passion as well.

But, really, I've connected with star beings, you know, from the Pleaides, the Arcturians, Sirius. It is amazing the energy that you can connect with, when you sit  and ask and open yourself up to allow that to come through.

Johnny Burke: So you are clairvoyant, which means you see images. Did you see images of, let's say like the angels, for instance? So did they look human? 

Cheryl Murphy: So clairvoyance is inner seeing or inner sight, and you can see it in your mind's eye or you can see it objectively. So subjectively in your mind's eye or really out in the middle of the living room, as I saw it Objectively. They were beautiful, very tall, elongated light. They were more of a light being than anything else, but I would say they had a reference of a human, maybe just for my purpose or because it helped me be comfortable with that. Yeah, what a powerful life-changing experience to have. I had at least two of them immediately speaking in front of me, letting me know that they were here to guide me. They were here to help me. They were even asking for my help in that way. So I feel like it was a miracle and a blessing.

Johnny Burke: Light beings. 

Cheryl Murphy: Mm-hmm 

Johnny Burke: Angels. Light beings. Star Beings. Is there an intersection somewhere? Because I think the angels could be star beings, or the star beings could be angels or they're all light beings. What are your thoughts on that?

Cheryl Murphy: Yeah. Well, I would like to say they're all light beings, but usually when I connect with Star beings, we'll just say or star people, it's another type of energy. It's more of an intense, laser focused energy. Usually their light is not so ethereal feeling. It's more perhaps grounded and but it feels more immediate. Like they are here on a mission. They are here to make a connection, to contact with you. But yeah, I would like to call all of them beings. Is there an intersection? I, I'm sure there is. The angel experience was so healing at the same time- it's just miraculous.

Johnny Burke: That sounds like an incredible experience. I think a lot of us that are hearing this are probably thinking, man, that's so cool. Why can't I do that? 

Cheryl Murphy: Mm-hmm and you know, and it doesn't seem to come when you want it to come. It comes when you least expect it. At least that's how it was for me. I didn't know it would come to me in my meditation, but it did. But I had been asking for it, weeks ahead of time, even months ahead of time. It just so happened at that day, that moment in time, I was just at a place in my meditation where, you're in that present moment of mindfulness and the synergy comes to you, and I opened my eyes literally in my living room. I will always remember that beautiful experience and they've come to me since. So now I'm excited to work with them. Yeah.

Johnny Burke: So have they mentioned anything about our current administration, or is that off limits?

Cheryl Murphy: No, they haven't really spoken about current events other than to say about where we're heading as far as healing goes or Fifth Dimension. It's more along those lines about helping people really understand about their own ability to heal themselves, and that we all have guides and angels, and to ask for that and what we see in front of us , there's such a bigger picture to all what's happening and that there's so much goodness in the world too.

And we have so many beings around our planet, around our solar system that are helping us in what we're doing. Like this planet, our beings, our, our spiritual friends, our unseen friends, they want to help us. This is a big deal. They know the earth is very hard school, right? They know it's a hard place to live, and how powerful it is to be here and how much learning goes on on this planet. So there is a lot to take from that. 

Johnny Burke: Since we're talking about light beings and angels and guides and, other types of entities that occupy that world, was there any hint of ascension or a turning point where there's going to be a quantum leap in our collective vibration, or not necessarily?

Cheryl Murphy: Oh, absolutely. And it's happening right now in this moment. It's been happening I would say for the last, five, seven years. So we really have been shifting and how you can tell when we're going through these major shifts is because you are also feeling like you're going through a transformation. You know, a lot of people have been experiencing loss, whether it's been financial, the homes, the jobs, all of that. Anytime we experience change, and it doesn't have to be bad change, it can always be positive at the same time.

What I'm saying is that so many people are having these transformative experiences, that there is that shift going through and it actually feels good right now, right? Like last year there were some ups and downs, but so far this year, as you may realize, it has been accelerating, right? We are really on an acceleration, but it's on an escalating incline. It's a positive move.

Johnny Burke: Right. So we're not going backwards, even though on the surface it looks like we might be going

Cheryl Murphy: Yeah. Yeah, yeah. You want to stay grounded to Mother Earth, because a lot of people might be losing sleep or they're confused or they kind of let things snowball out of control in their thinking mind, so to speak, and you want to come back down to center and be in that soul spirit grounded mother earth.

That's why meditation is so important, like taking care of yourself, being mindful, staying positive in some way, because it is about slowing down and being more mindful. That's really where we're going. We're learning that Unity is is a big deal, helping your fellow man. It’s big. That's where we're heading. 

Johnny Burke: I bring up the shift because, I’ve been told it's supposed to happen within the next couple years. And they will admit that it seems like- especially here in the States where there's an upheaval and there's chaos, but eventually we're going to get over it and we're going to go to a much better place, not beyond the veil. Not yet. So we're going to switch gears here for a moment. I noticed that you also practiced past life regression within your practice. Right? How did you get interested in that? Or was that all part of the metaphysical studies pretty much from the start?

Cheryl Murphy: I stepped into past life regression. I started meeting people who had gone through it themselves. I believe I started going through it involuntarily. I started having flashbacks or what's going on, why am I having these moments of living in the past or in other parts of the world?

And it was my curiosity personally that I wanted to study hypnotherapy, and I take clients and I help them go in their past life regressions, or I help them find out where they're resonating with. Why they have the phobias they do, or, why things are not making sense. But yet, when we connect with a past life, for some reason, it does after we meet.

And look, we've had many, many past lives. And I spend that time. I, put them in a meditative state. I go back with them. So I'm with them the whole time we're on this past life regression therapy and we really look for what was the meaning of that past life, right? what happened in the beginning, during the middle? Did they have family? How did they pass? Where did they live? Did they have a name? So we try to gather as much information as we can, and then we bring it back to this life and find out how it's helping us or healing us or why we needed to connect to that particular past life. Every past life teaches you something.

Johnny Burke: okay. Very consistent with what I've heard over the years. And you've had past life experiences of your own, which prompted you to investigate that a little bit further. What are some examples of your own past lives that you can share with us?

Cheryl Murphy: I was very drawn to Egypt and that I actually worked for a Pharaoh, so to speak. I was like a mind seer, or I was a, could say fortune teller, but I was more of a medium and a psychic, and I actually worked for a Pharaoh back in the day, one of my lives back there.

But this type of work that I did, it's like I was isolated or closed off because it it's almost like they treat you with high regard, but yet they don't want you talking to anybody else around it. So it felt in some way, like I was treated very nicely, but in some way, they wanted me to focus my energy solely on them. But I feel Johnny in that past life that that's where I got my channeling from. That's where I sat by myself for very long periods of time in meditation or in writing. but I felt very drawn to that. Also, another time I feel like I was a nun, actually with a girlfriend of mine that, I had met in the last, 20 years. I feel like she and I are connected. 'cause somehow we were nuns in the past life together.  

Johnny Burke: This is someone you know now that you recognize from past lives?

Cheryl Murphy: Yes. And you may have that also in your lifetime. You may have friends or people that you meet acquaintances where you just have that curiosity that something has been there before that the two of you know. 

Johnny Burke: I had someone, who was involved with IANDS, he was a vice president at one point, I had interviewed him a couple times because he had, some pretty gnarly near-death experiences where he was like out for 40 minutes and he saw the life review and everything else, but we were talking one day afterwards and he said, "you know, John, I think you and I go back a ways." and I thought, okay, what do you mean? I'm thinking, civil war." so I said," really? So were we Yankees or were we Confederate" he goes, "no, we are Confederate", then he said, " we might even go back to the French Revolution." Just about everybody that does have those memories will recognize someone in this life that they shared a life with before. 

Now let's talk about your clients, right? When you say that you guide them through a past life being a medium, are you actually in the frame as it were, or are you just observing as opposed to someone who doesn't have those abilities, who is just a clinician? I would think there's a difference, right?

Cheryl Murphy: I believe there is. And so I observe, so I'm sitting with them in the meditation. I'm observing with them their life. There is an objective distance that I'm taking, so I'm guiding them, but I'm helping them as well. And I do believe with my clairvoyance or my clairaudience, all of my abilities, the psychic intuition that I’m actually tapping in and tuning in.

So when they bring something up that they're seeing or experiencing. If I can validate for them that, yeah, my gosh, I see it too. I'm with you as well. It actually has more of an impact when you're both kind of working in the same arena and experiencing it together. It's almost like, yeah, let's go deeper with it now. Let's take it a little bit further because you're, you're working with someone, so I love it. I love using that intuition with my past life regression.

Johnny Burke: I've met plenty of mediums that we've interviewed here on the show. But not that many, that actually- they've had past life memories, a lot of them, but a lot of them don't practice that with their clients. So, that's a really interesting angle that you have. And I think with all your experience with you angels, the light beings, the guides and so forth, I think having the past life memories and the understanding about how that works really gives you a true 360 view, right?

Cheryl Murphy: I agree. I believe it allows you that patience and that guidance, and it allows you to kind of be more in tune with the subtle energies of that and we keep saying past life, but you know, there's also future life regression as well where we could possibly see into the future. Isn't that amazing? 

Johnny Burke: It's so crazy. But the way it's been explained to me more than once, it does exist, but it can change based on, what we're doing now. So it's like a version, but if we take a different action, it can change. So that begs the other question. When we talk about past and future, lives, when you actually see a past life,

Cheryl Murphy: Mm-hmm

Johnny Burke: I would imagine it's like a movie or is it like you're actually going back to, know, um, ancient Egypt 3000 years ago? Is it more just like a recording?

Cheryl Murphy: Well, you mentioning about you and this a friend of yours with the Confederate war. I actually was working with a client where we were just not really even talking about past life regression. He was just a client we were meeting, and I could see a past life almost superimposed over him, and it was around the Confederate war, and I had asked him if he ever felt drawn to military service or even that time period. And he said yes. He goes, "absolutely I'm a history buff. " it's like when it starts ringing true and synchronicity steps in, then a lot of your answers just come from that. 

Johnny Burke: But you don't really believe that it's possible to go back to 1812 it's not a recording, it's not a movie, it's not a video clip. You were actually there,

Cheryl Murphy: Oh no. You can go back to any time period. You can go back to the beginning of time. You can go back to the beginning of time, to the beginning of consciousness as we know it. 

Johnny Burke: In other words, let's take a year, like 1812 for instance, actually does exist on some plane. It's happening right now. It's just on a different plane, different axis, or however you want to explain that. Is that true?

Cheryl Murphy: This is true. Absolutely. We look at time as linear. as past, present, and future, but really, it's all happening at once.

Johnny Burke: I've heard that too. 

Cheryl Murphy: So the past, present, and future are happening at once. So actually, you could be living, I could be living my past life at this moment in Egypt just and I feel in some way I could access knowledge from that time period that would help me today in this life. 

Johnny Burke: Speaking of Egypt, I meant to ask you this earlier. How far back in time do you suppose that was? Oh gosh. I don't know. I don't know. I would have to just go back and past life meditation. There are pyramids, more than the pyramids that we see physically. There are pyramids within the earth.

There's a lot happening , and there's more than one earth. I mean, if we really want to open up this consciousness conversation and field, so, is there only, one planet earth or one consciousness stream?, Egypt could be happening on different levels and different timelines, so to speak, so there could be many experiences and , they talk about jumping timelines, so to speak. That's one conversation. Jumping timelines, right? Isn't that related to a parallel universe or not really? 

Cheryl Murphy: It’s a good way to say it. Right? A parallel universe and. There are many times when I've been meditating that I have felt myself go into another time zone and you know, it's not like you can intend or I haven't been able to intend for that to happen. I'm just doing my everyday regular meditation and somehow, I'm being taken into this other dimension or history or past life. Seeing other families and they're waving at me asking me how I'm doing, it's an amazing experience when you surrender and allow yourself to just know that you're guided and supported. 

I know a lot of people may have fear around stepping into learning about themselves and their own intuition, but if you believe in a higher power that's here to help us and to help us manifest our dreams, goals, and desires. Then you have a lot going for you, and I think in some way prayer helps, meditation helps, gratitude helps. These things help raise your vibration.

Johnny Burke: So when you're viewing or re-experiencing past life, are you actually like, interacting with them or not really?

Cheryl Murphy: Yes. When I help my clients with past life regression, hypnotherapy is a focused, relaxed state. Okay. So you're very relaxed, you're very focused. You can stop at any time, but it feels really good it's almost like you're hyper aware or you're very aware of your surroundings, but your physical body's very relaxed. So yes, when I'm doing my own past life regressions, yes, we are in conversation. We are feeling and sensing the world that we're in. We're experiencing that in an altered state.

Johnny Burke: But you were actually interacting and talking to people and things like that.

Cheryl Murphy: Yes, and finding out information, and it's not like we're going looking for it. We just kind of put the invite out there and it has everything to do with setting your intentions before you even begin, before you even begin going into meditation or as I take my clients, I mean, let's have a goal. Let's have a game plan. We're asking for healing to happen from this experience. - We're here to be more informed, to find out more about ourselves, who we truly are. So there are intentions that we set before we begin the meditation.

Johnny Burke: Okay. Let’s talk about a core feature of your work. contacting loved ones who, who have passed over; you believe that we can actually ask them for help. How exactly do we do that? 

Cheryl Murphy: So we ask them for help, just like you and I are talking now. We ask them out loud, uh, through our day when we're driving in the car. We can write it, we can write a letter to them. We can pray and ask for help, but it's about knowing that they're here with us and feeling them here. Even if we don't know that they're around us, or even if we don't feel them, that's when Faith and Hope steps in. But asking your loved ones for support and help and guidance, of course you have free will, but they are here to, let us know that they're here. That's really the big thing, is they're here, they're fine, they're watching over us, they're guiding us.

So really it is through the love that you have in your heart, so the love that you have in your heart for your loved ones. That's the connection. That's how we connect with them. We think of them, we remember the memories that we have for them. We remember their laugh, or we remember the times that they helped us and we bring that up into our mind's eyes, so to speak, or in our memory. And that can really bring a connection to where you could feel them. Maybe you smell the cologne that they wore or the flowers that they had in their house. So we have to believe and step into the faith and have gratitude. Because what happens is once we ask for their help, and they do show us signs that they're here. The great thing is that you've opened that energy field up. And with gratitude and love, it makes the connection easier each time. Right. It's like you build that conversation and getting to know them in a different way or, in a different energy way.

Johnny Burke: Right, I have asked intuitives, mediums,  they all say the same thing. They're here with us. Maybe they're on a different frequency, but they're watching over us. They. What are your thoughts about when we dream about our loved ones that have passed over and we see them in a dream, sometimes we even talk to them. What have your experiences been with, seeing some of your loved ones like in a dream?

Cheryl Murphy: So I had a great, amazing visit with my brother. It was called a visitation dream, where he came into my room, sat on the foot of my bed. He came in to check on me, and then he stood up and he goes, "I'm going to go check on mom. "And he went. I saw him walk down the hallway. Now I know it was a visitation dream, which is different from other dreams because it was so real. It's like I was awake in my dream- everything was so real. I, touched him or I hugged him, or I heard him walk down the hallway to go check on my mother. She was sleeping in her room. So a visitation dream is an amazing life-changing experience where you can't tell a person otherwise that it didn't happen.

The dream state; to clarify, is the easiest way our departed loved ones can reach us because we have our guard down, our egos down, we're in an altered state in sleep. Our soul is out traveling. We're very open to the spirit world and, and to astral travel, so to speak. So the loved ones step in, right? This is their opportunity to connect. And sometimes you don't remember that your loved ones came, but I know that they're here for you. Or I'll pick up on it in a reading or I'll let you know they're letting me know they're coming to you in a dream. So, be ready or just be open to it. 

Johnny Burke: I've had people tell me that they like you just said, they don't always remember, but then something triggers the memory like, oh yes, so and so was in my dream the other night. It's almost as if they want to make their presence felt, but sometimes they don't want us to remember it. Does that make sense?

Cheryl Murphy: Yeah, it does make sense and sometimes we just don't remember. Just may be cause it’s us not remembering our dreams. And there's certainly practice techniques to help you remember your dreams, right? One way is to have a pen and notebook by your bedside, and as soon as you wake up, write down everything that happened. Or many people have a voice recorder on their phone, they talk right in their voice recorder. Just anything to engage in that memory process. And even before you go to bed at night, you could do a little bit of self-hypnosis, telling yourself you're going to remember your dreams. Right. Just using the affirmations I'm going to remember. I'm going to remember. 

But yes, our loved ones- pets, people and you can have conversations with your loved ones. Maybe you ask them questions or write them down, and when they do come through in the dream, they provide the answer. Right? It’s about letting them know ahead of time what you're curious about. Although they already know, but it helps you remember what, what you asked. Yeah.

Johnny Burke: All right. You also contributed at least one chapter to a book called The Last Breath. Tell us a little bit about that.

Cheryl Murphy: The last breath, it's true stories of mediumship and the afterlife and signs from spirit. And it was written with mediums from around the world. And my chapter is called Spirit Party. That's my story about my father's transition and how I was with him, you know, before he transitioned, enduring. He was in the hospital, I had come home just to rest for a moment, and there wasn't anyone living in the house. And I walked in and it was full of spirit. It was full of spirit. And I saw this beautiful banner, a welcome home banner, because they were preparing for his transitioning, which he ended up passing later that day. But when I walked in the kitchen, it was so crowded with departed loved ones or departed guides, angels, even my father's friends. And they were busy, busy moving around. So excited. And my point is that, is that we never pass alone. We never die alone. 

And so when I'm back at the hospital with my father during the transition later that day, the room filled up with all these people and the angels were there. And it's so magnificent. His step wife, our dog was there that passed away. Like he's never, he was never alone. And it really proves it, at least my experience, I'm hoping to share with people that your guides and angels and your loved ones, they are with your loved ones who are transitioning and passing. 

Johnny Burke: It's not the first time I've heard that either. And it's especially important when I interviewed a medium who worked in hospice - that's exactly what she said. It's like they're getting ready to have a party. I, think it's really important for people to know that, because we've all heard stories about, our friends and family that are passing and we think they're hallucinating talking to someone who died 20 years ago, or maybe even more. But, , they're not necessarily hallucinating are they?

Cheryl Murphy: No, they're not. And it's not just a few people on the other side. Like  when I walked in my father's house, the living room was full, the kitchen was filled, the hallway, the bedroom, like the whole house was filled with spirit. It's like everyone he ever knew in that way. So always know, I'm hoping that I'm showing that there's a comfort there. When they're talking and hallucinating, as you mentioned, it is them reaching out to the spirit world. Yes. Believe them. They are seeing the aunt or the grandmother or their mother, they are showing that they are looking beyond the veil, so to speak.

Johnny Burke: It is a huge comfort for a lot of people. I think the more stories like that, that get out the better. Your podcast, I imagine we can expect the same type of material as we're talking about today, or is it a little bit different?

Cheryl Murphy: No, it's very, very similar, our podcast, Seeing Beyond Living Transformed is myself and my cohort co-host, Kelly Eckhart, where we bring mediums onto interview. We also have other types of healing. We have Numerologists come on. We also have hospice nurses. We have people who study consciousness come on our program. it is about helping people join in the conversation, right? Where are they going to find this information from your podcast on mine like, we really want to get out there, share what we know, invite people to join us. We do readings on our program. We're on every Thursday evening on all the social platforms, all the podcast platforms.

We love what we do and sometimes, Kelly and I do healings on our show. We do meditations on our show, but it really is to take callers questions and find out, what questions do you have, what are you struggling with or, what questions do you have about dream states, so to speak. Questions like that or numerology. It's a big topic. And, seeing spirit, as you mentioned, the clairvoyance. Lots of questions about opening people's awareness up.

Johnny Burke: Mediums, interviewing mediums. I like that; that's got to be very, very interesting. Your chapter in that book, the Spirit Party, which by the way, sounds like a band name, really . The big takeaway is no one dies alone, which a lot of us are afraid of.

Cheryl Murphy: Yeah. yeah. yeah. No one dies alone. And you know, I just knew that my father was greeted by all of those loved ones more than I could count. That's how many there were. There were just more than you could even imagine. 

Johnny Burke: very, very good to know. Cheryl, thanks for joining us tonight. very, very cool information. I really wish we could talk about this stuff some more with more mediums, but I guess we need to start listening to your podcast. In the meantime, how can our listeners find you online?

Cheryl Murphy: So my website is medium cheryl.com. I have a great quiz on there that you take, it's like 10 easy questions that are about which psychic ability that you're super strong in, on my social channels, Instagram, Facebook, I'm at Medium Cheryl.  

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