Faeries, Star Beings, and Spiritual Dimensions with Lindsey Swope

In this episode of Closer to Venus, host Johnny Burke interviews Lindsey Swope, an ambassador to fairies, divas, and nature spirits. They discuss Lindsey's involvement with the Gaian Ferry Congress, a group focused on creating connections between humans and faerie ealms, including interplanetary relations. The conversation spans topics like communication with fairies, the synergy between fairies and star beings, and the educational focus of Fairie Congress events. Lindsey and Johnny also explore the experiences of individuals with connections to higher realms, distinctions between dimensions and densities, and the concepts of Star Nations, star seeds, and walk-ins. Emphasis is placed on moving from self-doubt to trust in one's abilities. Additionally, they touch on overcoming the fear of death, past life traumas, and the continuity of the higher self. Lindsey provides resources for further engagement and encourages listeners to connect with her through GaiaCongress.org and Instagram @Ferry.Congress.

00:00 Introduction to Lindsey Swope and the Gaan Ferry Congress

00:42 The Origins of the Ferry Congress

01:35 Communicating with Fairies and Nature Spirits

02:49 Faeries and Star Beings: A Synergistic Relationship

04:23 Global Presence and Characteristics of Fairies

06:52 Faerie Congress Events and Activities

09:51 Dimensions vs. Densities: Understanding the Differences

11:35 Connecting with Ancestors and Star Nations

15:22 Tapping into Creative Energy

15:55 Understanding Star Nations

16:23 Visualizing Light Beings

17:52 Star Beings and Walk-Ins

19:00 Star Seeds and Incarnations

20:33 Past Lives and Traumas

21:48 Higher Self and Spiritual Realms

22:53 Life, Death, and Spiritual Wisdom

25:35 Benevolent and Malevolent Star Beings

27:16 The Purpose of Human Existence

30:46 Conclusion and Contact Information

www.fairycongress.com and www.gaiancongress.org

@gaiancongress

Transcript

Johnny Burke:  Welcome to Closer to Venus. I'm Johnny Burke, and today's guest is Lindsay Swope. She is the main ambassador to the realms of fairies, divas, and nature spirits. She's worked with a multidimensional organization called the Gaian Faerie Congress since its inception in 2001. In this episode, we'll talk about the mission of this organization, which is the communication and co-creation between humans. In the fairie realms, which also includes interplanetary relations. Lindsay, welcome to the program

 Lindsey Swope: Thank you for having me. 

Johnny Burke: Gaian Faerie Congress. This is going to be a good one. So, how did all of this begin, your involvement with them? How did it start?

 Lindsey Swope: So, to go back to the beginning, the first faerie congress was actually held in the faerie realms. There was a woman named Daphne Charters who lived outside London in 1950s. She could communicate with the faeries in her garden and they decided to have faerie Congress. So, that went on for many  years and she wrote a little book about it.

And then a man named Michael Pulaski read this book, and he got so excited. He wanted to have a faerie congress in the human realm. So he called me because I owned a wilderness retreat. So I became the hostess of the first faerie congresses and then gradually took over more and more of the administration and the all of the coordinating for the events.

Johnny Burke: So the communication between humans and the fairies, does this involve channeling or mediumship? How does that work?

 Lindsey Swope: Everybody has their own way to communicate, and that's one thing we emphasize at our events is we try to provide lots of different avenues. Like some people draw. They'll draw with their eyes closed, but come up with these amazing images. Other people certainly hear them and channel them. Some people write, some people use movement. But it's really because the ferries are all around us. They're part of nature and we are part of nature. We all have this ability as just a question of figuring out what our particular avenue is of connection.

Johnny Burke: The faeries and the divas , is it divas or divas? What is it?

 Lindsey Swope: Davis is how I pronounce it.

Johnny Burke: Davis. Okay. I’ve never even heard that before, but first thing I thought of was a diva, so I thought, okay, that's kind of otherworldly to begin with. So how are these entities related to star beings? Are they aligned with them? Do they coexist with them? How does that work?

 Lindsey Swope: Well,  they definitely work synergistically from my experience, to me, they're all kind of in the fifth, sixth, seventh dimension. Some star beings are in even higher dimensions. most faerie beings are kind of fifth through seventh dimensions, so they overlap in terms of their vibration, their plane of existence. And in my experience, like I've been to places where [ there's a strong, star being presence. Like say, Sedona is a very famous, well-known one. Places where there's a strong star being presence there's also a very strong faerie presence because they support each other and keeping the vibration high. And that supports their wellbeing, supports their ability to express themselves. When they express themselves that way, that allows you to feel it basically. They’re all around everywhere, but you can't always feel them.

Johnny Burke: Star beings, they're not just, fiction. They're not just Anglican folklore in England, Ireland, and so forth. They actually do exist?

 Lindsey Swope: Yes, and they're all over the world. They have different names in different parts of the world. The Native Americans might refer to them as little people. The little people. And Africa, they're known as the Candomblé , in, Hawaii, they're, I think it's pronounced the, the Menehune. So, they exist all over the world and like humans, they have different names for  themselves. They also have different characteristics. So the fairies and the English tradition, because they co-evolve with the humans that live there. They might take on certain appearances for people who are clairvoyant and can see them, whereas the ones that live in Africa might act a little different, express themselves a little differently.

One way I describe them is that they are the intelligence of nature. Like we know nature is intelligent. It's not just a machine. There's scientists that are demonstrating this, that plants know which way to go to seek out water. So how is it that they're making these decisions? They have intelligence and, the faeries, the little people, all these being are kind of how, we interact with that intelligence.

Johnny Burke: So how is the communication between us and them, how is it different from, humans interacting with star beings? 

 Lindsey Swope: Think it's all the same really. It's more a matter of your tuning, it's kind of like a radio where it's like faeries might be one station and star beings are another. It's just a matter of where you're attuned to, but it's the same process. It's just opening to these more subtle, sensations and inputs.

Johnny Burke: So it's like a frequency, like one frequency is rock radio. The other frequency is the indie station. Right. On Sirius. On Sirius. Think about that. 

 Lindsey Swope: Right?

Johnny Burke: That had to have some intelligence behind that branding, don't you think? 

 Lindsey Swope: Yes, definitely. Yeah.

Johnny Burke: Consciously or otherwise. What happens at one of these faerie congress events? Are they doing certain things? Are they doing readings? Are they reading each other's minds? What happens there?

 Lindsey Swope: Well, we have a very educational focus, so with the in-person events, we usually have at least 16 workshops. We have five different workshop periods each period, we have a choice because we know that everybody has their own way of connecting. We like to provide lots of options. So there's lots of opportunities to practice, but then we also have circles when everyone in the community comes together and we meditate. We do a lot of singing because singing really raises our vibration and that opens our channels and allows for smoother, easier communication. But there's also a lot of interchange between humans because I find this is one of the most important things, especially when people are first learning to connect with, I call them the subtle realms. It could be fairies or star beings or ancestors, but any of those beings that live in that finer dimension. 

The biggest challenge is overcoming your doubt. Like if you get a message almost immediately, you're like, oh, did I make that up? And if you have another person who can confirm it for you and say, oh, I got something very similar, then you move from doubt into trust. And I find that doubt kind of has a negative feedback loop. You doubt so you shut down and then you don't get any information or any messages and it kind of snowballs. But if you learn to trust, you become more open to messages. The messages come more clearly. Your trust gets stronger, and you get a positive feedback loop. So that's one of the most important things I think that we offer people, is moving from doubt to trust in their own abilities.

Johnny Burke: It sounds like a group consciousness.

 Lindsey Swope: It's definitely a group field. Yes. And I find that's another way that it's really impactful. In fact, that phrase, a rising tide lifts all boats; so everyone that comes to Congress, we're all creating this field and we all expand our abilities together. So people who are new to it learn trust and they gain experience. But people who have sort of been communicating with fairies their whole lives come and we've had numerous people who are just amazed at how much more they learn or how new abilities come to them because of their, working in this group field.

Johnny Burke: You mentioned, dimensions, a moment ago, fifth, sixth, seventh, and so on. I also noticed that people also use the term density. Now, isn't there a difference between dimension and density, are people confused by that? 

 Lindsey Swope: Yeah, I have not heard that term density. As much, but to me, I feel a difference in dimensions I feel like you think of higher and higher dimensions, whereas densities are almost more within the third dimension. We have various levels of density. That's the way I interpret it, 

Johnny Burke: And those that are trying to be enlightened, raising one's vibe or the collective vibe, they're trying to get away from that. They're trying to go up the proverbial scale more towards being a light being, 

 Lindsey Swope: Yes. Yeah.

Johnny Burke:  That's the way I understood it. You mentioned something about the ancestors also. So how do you engage with ancestors and also Star Nations? that's one term I've not heard before. I.

 Lindsey Swope: So the ancestors, people often find if they can connect to their own ancestral stream, that usually we have ancestors who worked closely with faerie beings or with the being of nature because we were all indigenous at some point. You know, it's like even us Westerners, if you go back far enough, we had ancestors who worked closely with nature. So those ancestors can help strengthen your connection, your ability to work with nature beings, because nature being, their timescale is so much longer. If they can see that, oh, this person is connected to that ancestral stream, who goes way back to this place, then they can kind of recognize you more easily. So definitely, being more attuned with your ancestral stream can definitely help, when you're connecting to nature beings and to those subtle realms.

For Star Nations I tend to work more, specifically with certain Star Nations, like I would say the Lyrians and the Pleiadeans to me, some of these things, they get kind of broad, and I know like there's various beings who channel some galactic organizations. and to me it's almost like I think of it like the UN, the United Nations someone can work for the United Nations of doing this and someone else can work for the United Nations doing something completely different. So this is just for my own perspective. I prefer to get more specific and not worry about like, okay, what is the United Nations overall and where do all these people come from? It almost gets to be too much information for me, and I just want to know, okay, who is this one being that I'm connecting with, who are you, where are you from? Why are we connecting? What can we do together? 

Johnny Burke: What kind of messages have you received from the ancestors or - star beings, Star Nations or anything like that?

 Lindsey Swope: They're generally very supportive. I would say the biggest one they've had to repeat numerous times is to release all this programming about not being good enough, for whatever you're doing, because just that idea of, oh, I'm not good enough. it brings you down and, and then you're almost creating that reality of not being good enough. So just try to drop that programming and whatever you're doing, just accept, you're doing the best you can. so that's been a big one. And then the other big one is to recognize the creative force of the universe is kind of like the stream that's always flowing. There's always all this creative energy all around us, but to tap into it, that element of trust is super important to just know that stream is there and , you can just tap into it and use it at any time to do whatever you want, but you have to have that trust that it's there and that you can actually use it.

Johnny Burke: And remove the doubt, which is probably not the easiest thing in the world to do, right?

 Lindsey Swope: Yep. Yep, for

Johnny Burke: Okay. So the way you think of,the Star Nations is kind of like, a UN for light beings, something like that?

 Lindsey Swope: Yeah, I mean, I know there's numerous star nations that are interacting with our planet right now. I have my own sort of cohorts that I work with. And I find that's enough for me right now.

Johnny Burke: Have you ever received a visual of any of these beings that you've have contact with?

 Lindsey Swope: Yes, but usually they kind of tune  themselves to something that I can accept. So my sense is, their form can be quite changeable because they work on this more etheric level where thought and imagination can shift what they look like. So, they present themselves kind of, as a generic human form, but just made out of light. or sometimes I see like this flowing, just the sense of flowing robes- sort of a tall being with flowing robes, but not very much detail and I don't know if that's their true nature, if that's just a convenient way to create an interface that we can both kind of work with.

Johnny Burke: And not scare the hell out of us, at the same time. Yeah, that would make sense. So it seems like some of these beings aren't really physical entities. They've graduated up that proverbial scale that we spoke about earlier. And they can be like fully light beings?

 Lindsey Swope: Yeah. The way I understand, especially star beings is that when they come to this planet, they are more in that energetic, higher dimension form, and in a lot of them, if they want to take a physical form on this planet, they're either born into a human body. Or they walk in. I know several people who have said they are walk-ins where the human soul that was born with that body left and the star being came over and just took over. And so instead of trying to manufacture some other kind of body, it's like, okay, these human bodies are kind of designed to work on this planet. Let's just take over a human body and then we can fit right in. You know, we can do what we need to do and not stand out.

Johnny Burke: So that implies that there are star beings most likely walking amongst us now and maybe have been, I'm not a big fan of conspiracy theories but you make it sound pretty easy that they can do what you call walk-in. I've heard about this before.

so what's the difference between a star being that inherits or takes over a human body and a starseed?

 Lindsey Swope: I would say a star seed is born, so I would consider myself maybe a star seed. When I went to Sedona in 2021, Boynton Canyon, I could tell that this was a very powerful portal and I, sort of received the information that this is where my soul came onto this planet and first incarnated into a human body, and since then, has gone through numerous incarnations and it was interesting because I had , that insight when I was in Boynton Canyon and then somewhere afterwards I read that yes, , many people have that understanding of Boynton Canyon, that it is somewhere that souls come into the planet. 

So that for me was kind of a confirmation like, okay, I am not making this up. Other people get the same information. So I guess that's how I think of a starseed. But for me, I think because I've gone through numerous human incarnations, I'm more removed from that star ancestry. When I think of starseeds, I think maybe of a younger generation, or someone who this is their first or second incarnation in human body, but from a star lineage.

Johnny Burke: Star lineage. All right. Okay. Do you remember any of your previous incarnations?

 Lindsey Swope: There are some, the first one, I had one in Tibet that was very traumatic and that's actually what got me into studying all of this. Past incarnations and astrology and everything because certain traumatic events in this lifetime sort of brought everything up and then I recognized that it came from a different lifetime.

Johnny Burke: Now once you recognize you've had past lives and you actually have the memories, what kind of residual effect does that have in the life you have now, for instance?

 Lindsey Swope: Usually it's a matter of clearing because usually it's the traumas that you're carrying forward. So it's like all the heartache and the heartbreak and abandonment and all of that stuff- they come with you. And so that's what you're trying to clear so that then you can sort of become your true self again in this lifetime. But that's been my experience is that.

Johnny Burke: is true self, the higher self, or is it related to the higher self? 

 Lindsey Swope: I would say it's related to the higher self. The other sort of, perspective adjustment, I would say for working in spiritual realms is that there's softer boundaries. So I was thinking of an example, like for us we have a chair and a table, and they're very different things, but sort of in the spiritual realms you could have like something with a horizontal service, could be a chair, could be a table, could be a box, could be all sorts of things. There's not a solid distinction.

Johnny Burke: No, there isn't. Okay. 

 Lindsey Swope: I think there are gradations maybe, and sometimes I think it's just a terminology difference.

Johnny Burke: So going through these lives, these incarnations, do you have a sense of graduating from one grade to the next and getting more wisdom and knowledge or?

 Lindsey Swope: I do. Um, in fact, that's another, sort of motivation

that came up very early on in my spiritual path is that I was pursuing the spiritual path because I wanted to make sure I had a good life and a good death, and that I would continue evolving, because I didn't want to get caught up in these cycles of, trauma basically,

Johnny Burke: Good life and good death. Does that experience I'm in another life. I am going to die at some point, does it make it maybe a little bit easier to prepare?

 Lindsey Swope: I think so; it's not the fearful thing. I see older relatives, some of whom are just so scared of dying, and it makes the process really that much harder. They hang on forever. Their health is going down. They need all this help. Okay, if you just let go and recognize that it's not the end, it is just the releasing of this form. it can all just be a lot less stressful.

Johnny Burke: John Lennon said I don't believe in death. It's like getting out of one car and getting into another. I thought that was brilliant. He was obviously way, way ahead of his time. This brings to mind a conversation I had with, several mediums who have actually worked in hospice and they can actually not only see the person getting out of bed and, a version of themselves about to cross over, but also the welcoming committee of the loved ones and the friends that have passed on that are there to guide them. This one woman said it's like going to a welcome home party. 

It's a celebration, isn't it?

 Lindsey Swope: Yes. And actually that was when my grandmother passed, she sent me a vision of yes, being in this lovely garden, having tea with her friends. And yeah, it was like a really sweet, really sweet, sweet place to land. 

Johnny Burke: Right, and I've heard that many, many times. So that should hopefully provide some comfort. Let's go back to the star beings. Now, a lot of us by now have heard there are some benevolent kinds and some that are not so benevolent. What has your experience been, with that dynamic? 

 Lindsey Swope: There's some known as the Annunaki, sometimes the history gets confusing about when they came, but I've heard they were some of like the really bad ones that tried to enslave humanity and maybe still are trying to enslave humanity. But I've heard that even among the Annunaki they weren't all bad. There were, actually two brothers. One was really domineering, and the other one was not so much.

 My mission here is to bring peace and light and harmony. And I know that yes, there are forces that are attracted to the light and are, not supportive of it. I'll put it that way. I just need to shine my light brighter because the light overcomes the darkness.

Johnny Burke: The ones that are supportive, what do they want from us or for us?

 Lindsey Swope: It's a matter of the fact that we are all connected, and my perception is a little bit limited, but from what I understand we're all connected so that if we find our harmony and our freedom, it ripples out beyond our solar system, our universe, our galaxy. There’s even this narrative; I'll say that this planet was almost chosen for this experiment, and everyone wants this experiment to succeed for us to learn how to recognize ourselves as, powerful creator beings and, create this beautiful life here. My understanding is that there are many star nations that are invested kind of in this experiment.

Johnny Burke: [ And the Lyrians and the Pleiadeans and several others are kind of in that group. I've heard those two. Andromedan,

 Lindsey Swope: Yes. Then there are the Syrians and the Arcturians, that I think are, are more closely connected.

Johnny Burke: You've had a lot of experience with the spiritual realm, the subtle realms, not quite sure where they intersect. I'm guessing they do and a lot of us have a lot of questions about, the spiritual realm, the spiritual world. What's going to happen when we die? What really happens? what can we realistically expect? What has your experience taught you about that?

 Lindsey Swope: Well, it definitely brings a sense of comfort. again, there's that releasing of the fear of death. The other big thing is that the recognition of your true power, it's like this whole manifestation, program. It sort of gets this materialistic overlay. Of, you know, oh, you can be as, as wealthy as you want, but it's, deeper than that. It really is about feeling this trust that you have the power, that there are benevolent, supportive, beings in the universe who are supporting you. It gives you more joy and comfort in the process of, of having a good life. which I think is kind of really the basics of why we're here. I don't think we were all born just to suffer. That doesn't really make sense, you know?

Johnny Burke: What you just said about releasing the fear of death, I think is priceless, you know? And I think a lot of us definitely feel the same way. Very cool. Lindsay, thanks for joining us today. In the meantime, how can our listeners find you online? I.

 Lindsey Swope: The easiest way gaiancongress.org, or on Instagram, we're at @faerie.congress. We're known by both faerie.congress and gaian congress.. 

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