Astral Travel and Remote Healing with il il Sat Prem

In this episode of Closer to Venus, host Johnny Burke interviews a profound healer, il il Sat Prem  who delves into her mystical experiences and spiritual journeys. Il il recounts her evolution from being an artist and musician to an explorer of astral travel and remote healing, experiencing oneness, vivid astral travels, and transformative love. She also discusses the subtleties of Kundalini awakening, the practices of remote healing, and the importance of a service-based mindset for spiritual growth.il il elaborates on the interconnectedness of all beings, the nature of spiritual dimensions, the shift from fear to service, and how these spiritual experiences translate into their healing work.

00:00 Introduction and Guest Background

01:00 Early Artistic Journey

02:38 Spiritual Awakening and Sensitivity

04:33 Astral Travel Experiences

07:46 Kundalini Awakening and Love Story

10:28 Remote Healing and Time Travel

14:36 Exploring Time Travel Possibilities

15:47 Kundalini Awakening Experiences

19:03 Understanding Remote Healing

23:21 The Path of Service in Spiritual Growth

25:51 Shifting Consciousness and Ascension

27:15 Final Thoughts and Contact Information

golden-healing.com

@ililsatprem

Transcript

Johnny Burke: Welcome to Closer to Venus. My name is Johnny Burke and today's guest, il il Sat Prem she's a healer, and a teacher who has been immersed in the mystical realm since childhood. Her experiences with astral travel and development of remote healing techniques does offer a unique insight into how all things are connected.

In this episode, we'll discuss the mystical path of becoming a healer. And the role of service in conscious evolution, il il, welcome to the program.

 iL iL Sat Prem: Thank you so much for having me. Happy to be here.

Johnny Burke: And happy Sunday to everyone else who's listening. So tell me, how did you get started on this path? I believe you were an artist before everything else.

 iL iL Sat Prem: I started out, yeah as a musician and also writing poetry and this was, the beginning of my path. Yeah.

Johnny Burke: So a musician. Excellent. Did being a musician, influence you, in a way where you foundyourself on the path you are on now. 

 iL iL Sat Prem: I think, the common theme between healer and artist is this, the habit of inner exploration, because also being an artist as a spiritual path, being a healer, as a spiritual path is in essence this path of inner exploration. So this is certainly part of it. 

Johnny Burke: Is it true that many musicians have one of the clairs, I believe it's clairaudient is that true? 

 iL iL Sat Prem: I have never been many musicians. I'm only one. \ I'm more of a clairvoyant, I have to say. I've had several experiences, yeah. Several experiences of my life, of hearing, of clairaudience. But that has not been, consistent. The clairvision is, very consistent. 

Johnny Burke: What were some of your earliest spiritual experiences as you just described, you saw something beyond the surface?

 iL iL Sat Prem: Well, generally I was this hyper- still am, but I used to be a hypersensitive child. Like the, the universe was constantly whispering my ear in some way. And in a way it's as if my experience and the experience of others were never completely separate. My sensitivity was such Yeah. I never had this really clear sense of, of having an, a separate identity in a way. And in a child's life, in a teenager's life, there's phases where identity and me and the world, these are very distinct. 

I actually always never had this sense of a black and white, like a world was always a very complex experience for me. Yeah, so the sensitivity, highly synesthetic also like the sensory experience was also always mixed up, I never had a diagnosed actually, but I have this kind of migraine, the good kind of migraine, the one without a headache. I have these visual experiences and also like perception shifting as is the case for people who have migraines. So this used to happen as a child all the time, like things would suddenly shift and like this new dimension would open up. So this is something that happened.

Johnny Burke: We will get to those visions in a moment, but I think what you're talking about is oneness, and especially as a teenager , I would think the sense of separation is probably at a peak in our lives. Right? Usually. But with you, it was like the opposite where you felt the connectedness of everything.

 iL iL Sat Prem: Yes. Very much. Very much so. Yeah.

Johnny Burke: What were some of the visions that you saw which were obviously not of the ordinary variety?

 iL iL Sat Prem: Well, even later on as a teenager, there was, a time that I actually was suffering from a, a very strong B12 deficit, and somehow this was not diagnosed and this, these were like my last several years of, of high school. I actually spent, every time I closed my eyes, I was just, would just shoot out to, to these journeys wherever, like from the planets to the jungles to wherever, very high visual quality. And with time, the actual physical problem was resolved. But this became part of my experience in a more integrated way. But at that time, I was actually really just closing my eyes and shooting off  into space. Before that there were experiences with music, this synesthetic experience. I would close my eyes and just have a visual experience  of different kinds. 

Johnny Burke: So I think what you were describing a moment ago is astral travel.

 iL iL Sat Prem: I suppose so. Yeah. 

Johnny Burke: What kind of beings or what kind of things \ did you see when you would close your eyes and shoot off to different planets?

 iL iL Sat Prem: Actually different every time. Sometimes it was really things here on this planet, places that I'd never visited, always very fast, like very high visual quality of traveling in jungles, and deserts and so on. And sometimes it was interplanetary and sometimes it was purely like graphic, these graphic experiences.

Johnny Burke: But you never saw any beings- living beings?

 iL iL Sat Prem: I don't remember visually seeing, but very much I experienced and also and still do as a presence somehow, but not necessarily as a visual representation. In that sense , it's like ,the oneness and the states somewhere later along the line. I have to say that these phenomena in itself, like what, the exact nature of what I saw was not of great importance. It's really the inner dimension that opens and not, this or that in a sense, like the magic show of, consciousness. And there was a time later in my life that I went through a proper Kundalini experience and then. Really, it was a proper magic show, and later it subsides, and then the skills that are left could be integrated into a deeper experience where the deepest experience is actually that of absolute silence and interconnectedness. And yes, also the possibility to connect at will to anything and anyone and any being past, present, and future. But this becomes a very subtle possibility and not that kind of magic show of the visual experience or so,

Johnny Burke: Now, apparently there was a love story that, was a turning point for you in your process. tell us about that.

 iL iL Sat Prem: I was a bit later in my twenties. 27 is kind of the proper age for a rebirth.  For a rebirth moment. I was going very deep at the time with breath exercise with pranayama from the Kundalini tradition and then slowing down my breath, which also brought about a new quality of astral travel and also started this Kundalini process, which often at the onset of it brings about this acceleration of karma. Like a lot of shadow stuff, a lot of emotional stuff it starts happening when people start going in this spiritual awakening. 

And then I started this love relationship, which in and of itself is of no great importance because it wasn't working out. It was just this long-distance relationship. Actually, this was the start of my practice of remote healing, I actually started with these circumstances, but then it came to an end because it was very simply not working out and being not an obsessive, I'm not an obsessive person. So I said, you know, goodbye and, and all the best to you. And then I also said," I will love you forever." And then I actually did. What happened is that it brought me to this. What I know in in the eastern spiritual traditions is called the path of bakhti, which is the path of devotion and following these very intense spiritual dreams, very kind of Jung and Kundalini typical dreams. I just left everything behind. I bought a one-way ticket to New York City.

I left my life, my career, my friends, everything, and sat in an apartment and continued loving fully. Without ever contacting that person again. And what started happening was this Sufi like kind of experience where in the beginning things started turning into my beloved. Later on, I started experiencing myself physically as the other person until this peak experience of this, the mystical merger or where I fully experienced myself as another person for a few long minutes and shot straight into this realm of, absolute oneness and found myself then walking for a few days then in Central Park, not knowing what I might mean or what wanting might mean. And, and fully in that deeper realm of non-duality of non-differentiation.

Johnny Burke: So how did you go from astral traveling to remote healing?

 iL iL Sat Prem: The astral travel is somehow, you know, a part of what I would call the transliminal realm like the experience of something else, of different dimensions and our possibility, or my possibility to, to cross over and to be actually simultaneously in different, in different realms. That's a life lifelong story, 

Johnny Burke: Good point about the, transliminal realm. I've been told that the astral is one of the lower thirds or maybe a lower quadrant in the entire spiritual realm. Was your experience consistent with that?

 iL iL Sat Prem: I have to say again that I have no theory of what the steps are. I just know what happened, and I know what I teach and I know that now these astral travel, which you call astral travel, have been integrated deeply into the life experience and having that as a skill of being able, which is something that I do as a healer, and also teach my students to, for example, talk to you very normally in this moment and also be very aware of another dimension where I am, or have the possibility to travel somewhere else to see something else, and to be able to contain these experiences simultaneously. This has been actually the core of my, program.

Johnny Burke: So it did have, an effect. The astral travel translates well to the realm of remote healing because you're saying you experienced yourself in the body of another person, which is not really that much of a jump to go from that to, I'm going to have a session with someone who lives 3000 miles away from me, and that's how I'm going to try and heal that person.

 iL iL Sat Prem: Yeah, that's definitely something that I use in my work very much. Yeah. The possibility to sense very deeply as if somebody were walking in the room and somebody is near you. You have the possibility to collect a lot of information subconsciously. So certainly I can do that.

And also maybe more important for my work, the ability to project myself to those spaces. So that often people who have a, a remote session with me kind of swear that I was holding their hand, you know, just to create this deep experience of connection as if I were really there. And then with the time travel also, of course, the ability to gather information about things that happened in the past and also to apply healing very directly and,

Johnny Burke: You brought up time travel just

now. 

 iL iL Sat Prem: Yeah, yeah. 

Johnny Burke: Interesting because I just had a discussion yesterday, about this where, let's say pick a year could be 1776, for instance, right? it's during a, revolution here in the States. In your experience, do you believe that time in the past actually is existing right now?

Or is it just more like a recording? 

 iL iL Sat Prem: As you said, it exists right now. This is precisely my, yes, that's the state that I work in. This is the meaning of the  non-dual. It's like experience is one. Everything is happening at the same time, there's only one place, and the place is the realm of perception. 

Johnny Burke: And it's something that we've heard here on the show many, many times. For us mere mortals, it's a bit hard for us to kind of get our heads wrapped around that. But, in other words, it's not out of the realm of possibility that you could have a conversation with Napoleon. You're saying something like that is possible?

 iL iL Sat Prem: Sure. 

Yeah. 

Johnny Burke: All right. 

 iL iL Sat Prem: Calling that travel is linear, is somehow not in that dimension of experience in, is

one. 

Johnny Burke: For those of us who are not experiencers, it brings back memories of watching Star Trek where Kirk would say, beam me up and go from one place to the other. It seems like what you're describing isn't that much different, or is it? Projecting yourself to another location?

 iL iL Sat Prem: That's a science fiction show. it becomes very subtle. In the time of my life, in my history where I was really going through the peak of the Kundalini awakening, the experience had this quality that was like, like this. And then I would fall asleep for 24 hours after having this time travel, whatever. And now I'm having a very normal life. And this is really what I teach my students of how to make it a very fine part of your experience, how to open perception gradually to these experiences and integrate them. It doesn't need to be a magic show. It can be part of people's lives. 

Johnny Burke: To many of us it might actually seem like a magic show, but I think several people who seem to be pretty grounded will say that time is a concept here on earth, but in the spiritual realm, there is no time because it's all, everything is happening all at once. So you mentioned the Kundalini awakening. I imagine that was a big influence, had an impact on where you are now.

 iL iL Sat Prem: Of course. 

Johnny Burke: Can you tell us how that happened?

 iL iL Sat Prem: First of all, this mystical moment of merger was one of the peaks of this experience. Then also there were other energy experiences. I was very lucky. I was in New York City. The moment, which by the way, when somebody comes to me in the midst of a Kundalini experience, the last thing I tell them is go to a big city. I would probably tell them, go into nature, right? But I went to New York and one of the advantages was the anonymity of the city. And another advantage was that I could find guidance there. And I came to the concept of Kundalini and then found or and realized that this is what was happening. 

And then came to also a studio, one of the biggest centers in the East coast for Kundalini and started practicing. So then somehow the experience started organizing itself better somehow in my system. And then I really had these energy experiences of the belly somehow going towards the back and the white energy going up through the head. So this also kind of happened. 

Johnny Burke: Doesn't it have something to do with going up your spine or spinal fluid or something like that?

 iL iL Sat Prem: yeah, yeah. 

Johnny Burke: So it's like maybe getting like a spiritual cortisone shot or?

 iL iL Sat Prem: I've never tried the cortisone thing. I've heard people, I've heard people, you know,

Johnny Burke: Right,

 iL iL Sat Prem: Compare it with drug experiences. But I have to say also the most, practitioners that I know of, Kundalini, I who really had the Kundalini awakening and everything don't necessarily have this experience of energy. I'm actually one of the only people that I know had this very explicit kind of- it's not a necessity on a Kundalini path of awakening. It can be more subtle. I sometimes joke and tell my students that, for my awakening God or whatever, or whoever had to come and kind of knock on my head, it doesn't have to be so, so harsh or so explicit to happen. 

Johnny Burke: The remote healing that you do, is that similar to remote viewing or is it pretty much the same thing? 

 iL iL Sat Prem: Remote viewing is the ability to see to sense to experience things that happened elsewhere. So this is like a skill that is definitely, or can be a part of the healing. But the healing is something in and of itself, which is in itself kind of simple and there's no difference because it happens in this space of non-dual in differentiation. It's not important if it's in person or remotely. The healer goes in this state of deep silence and learns to contain or to relate to the other person and to heal in that state. So what you call remote viewing in the yogic tradition, in the kundalini yoga, we call it like developing what we call the subtle body.

The subtle body is what my teacher used to call the Google mind. It's like you ask a question or you make a petition and you can get all the information you know. So definitely on the path of the healing that I teach you develop these skills, but the healing is actually the main point. 

Johnny Burke: And speaking of healing, can you give us an example of what one of these sessions might look like?

 iL iL Sat Prem: They happen in silence. And the journey, like my inner journey in relation to the person is absolutely unique every time I wouldn't know how to repeat it. And can have many, many aspects, and it's really a very intuitive kind of process. So it's whatever it is, the space of that, that's the Kundalini in a way.

The Kundalini itself is this kind of pure intelligence that moves through you with no connection to my own filters or ego or whatever. And it just shows me where to go. So it can be anything. It could be a simple energy adjustment, or it can be ancestral healing or anything. And the information that's required always comes up like what needs to be healed and known in the moment.

Johnny Burke: So, in other words, when you're connecting with that person , in a session, you're going to pretty much know right away what needs to be healed within them.

 iL iL Sat Prem: Yeah, honestly, this can happen before, they can write the email and I'll know. 

Johnny Burke: You even know it then even before the session? 

 iL iL Sat Prem: Yeah. Yeah. The moment you can establish a connection- sometimes I teach this, for example, for a group of healers online, and then somebody might ask to work on somebody who's not present, somebody that we've never seen. That's also possible. It's possible to see and know everything just by making this  connection.

Johnny Burke: Remote healing is a skill in and of itself, but at the end of the day, this is a form of energy healing, right.?

 iL iL Sat Prem: I don't call it that. Everything is energy. Maybe the medium is energy. I tend to call it a consciousness energy in the sense that it's has to do with the Kundalini tradition then Kundalini is precisely this merger of energy and consciousness of Shiva and Shakti. I don't know, it's not that I send energy to somebody. That's not how it works. No.

Johnny Burke: So you're saying it's, not energy healing, it's something completely different?

 iL iL Sat Prem: Yeah, I think energy healing can be included. I can choose to work on the energy body but maybe energy is just the medium of manifest life, but it happens in the realm of consciousness of perception. So if I had to call it anything, it would be consciousness healing, perhaps.

Johnny Burke: What are the most important things that, we can take away from your experience and your craft, and what your goal is as a healer.\?

 iL iL Sat Prem: I think the most important thing for me personally in my  life, and also as a teacher, is that the idea of the path of service as a path for spiritual growth, that would also be my advice to anybody who wants to go on a path of spiritual development. The path of service is there's something a bit tricky about, I want to be enlightened, or I want to do this spiritual practice, and then the eye is very strong. It's a very healthy thing to turn it around, and to move to a path of service. I really, very deeply believe that, that we're here to walk each other home- that famous Ramdas saying, it's very, very deeply true. So, to anybody who's out there trying to develop themselves and to have an experience, I would say leave that aside for a bit and maybe if you focus on this path of service, sometimes I tell my students, that's the great side effect. The greatest side effect of being a healer is that you are healed and that you get to experience infinity on this path of service.

Johnny Burke: Now the role of service, that seems to be related to something like going from the 3D or third density to the fifth. It's shifting from a fear based consciousness to more of like a group based consciousness instead of I, want, I need, I, want I need, it's how can I be of service to someone else? How can I bring value to this person or this group?

 iL iL Sat Prem: Exactly.

Johnny Burke: Same thing. 

 iL iL Sat Prem: yeah, this state that I teach, this level of non-differentiation when somebody even gets a taste of it. When you really experience yourself as not separate from others, it becomes really impossible to inflict pain when you so clearly understand and feel that somebody else's suffering is happening somewhere in you then it becomes impossible. Then we have to be healers in the context of our lives or in whatever way we really have to become healers. Your healing is somebody else's healing. Somebody else's healing is your own. 

Johnny Burke: Is your healing-yeah, because everything is connected. Which again, we've heard, I don't know how many times. Speaking of which, we've been hearing a lot about going from 3D to five D whether you're talking about dimensions or densities, we're hearing a lot of chatter about ascension and coming out of one age and going into the aquarian age, for instance. I think it's Piscean to Aquarian. Why do you suppose we're hearing a lot about that these days? 

 iL iL Sat Prem: It's obviously happening. It's happening. It's, it's not necessarily, this golden age opening up as we see there's so much suffering in the world. But at the same time, consciousness is evolving. I think we talk of Piscean and, and Aquarius. It's something in the sky- it's essentially, it's the planetary influence.  I'm not an expert in that, but I feel it. and something has shifted and the pressures on our psyche are different. And so people are evolving and the more people evolve, the more resistance also. So this is what we experience. I have a small child, so I'm exposed to the world of little children. Children are very different today. So much more sensitive, so much more open.

Johnny Burke: No doubt about that. Anything else that we should know, at least for today?

 iL iL Sat Prem:  Hmm. Be a healer. Yeah. 

Johnny Burke: I think that's very good simple advice. Il il, thanks again for coming onto the show. in the meantime, how can our listeners find you online?

 iL iL Sat Prem: my website,  golden -healing.com or @ililsatprem on Instagram would be two good ways

Johnny Burke: You've been listening to Closer to Venus. I'm Johnny Burke. If you enjoyed today's episode, please consider subscribing. You can find more info on closer to venus.com and mind body spirit.fm. Thanks again for tuning in and we'll see you next time.