Closer to Venus
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Closer to Venus
#243 Akashic Records, Christ Light Transmissions, and Past-Life Healing with Kelly S Jones
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Kelly S. Jones is an Akashic Records reader, teacher, and author who left a corporate career for the metaphysical world after a chance introduction to feng shui — and later, to the Records themselves. In this episode, she explains how the Akashic Records work, why past-life memories surface only when they're useful for your present, and shares the unexpected childhood encounter that set her on this path. Johnny also receives a live Akashic Records reading on air.
- What the Akashic Records actually are (and aren't)
- Why past-life information only comes forward when it serves your present healing
- What "Christ Light Transmissions" are and how they differ from light language
00:00 Welcome and Guest Intro
00:43 Why She Reads Records
02:05 What Records Really Are
04:37 Vertical Time and Choice
05:50 Feng Shui Awakening
06:55 Jesus Vision at 14
10:58 Mary Magdalene Signs
14:04 Sisters of Light Initiation
16:19 Lessons and Love Frequency
18:41 Christ Light Transmissions
20:32 Christ Light Explained
21:26 How Sessions Work
23:45 Church Mysticism Debate
25:35 Power Within, Not Dogma
27:05 Dolores Cannon Regression
29:55 Atlantis Memories
34:03 Souls Returning and Contact
35:29 Live Akashic Reading
36:54 Past Life Hidden Sleuth
38:48 New Earth and Healing
https://kellysjones.net/
Welcome to Closer to Venus. I'm Johnny Burke, and today's guest is Kelly S. Jones. She is an Akashic Records reader, teacher, and author. Her work involves accessing the energetic blueprint of your soul's journey where multidimensional realities influence your past, present, and potential future. In this episode, we'll talk about how she translates this higher-dimensional wisdom into everyday language. And also, Kelly will be reading my Akashic Records live at the end of the episode. So stay tuned. Kelly, welcome to the program.
Kelly S. JonesThank you, Johnny. Great to be here. Appreciate it.
Johnny BurkeThrills and chills. This is going to be an interesting one. Okay, the records. Speaking of which, what made you want to become an Akashic Records reader?
Kelly S. JonesWell, let me go back to eight years old. When I wanted to be a therapist, and my experience was watching people in therapy, it wasn't doing that great of a job for them. Totally forgot about it. Decades later, I'm actually teaching feng shui. I went out of corporate America, did a 180 into the metaphysical world. I'm teaching feng shui for my master teacher, and one of my students wants to read my Akashic Records. And so I'm like, I've tried everything. I've done tarot and astrology and psychic readings, and I've never heard of Akashic Records. So I was quite skeptical, and I was like, you have to tell me what they are, who you are, and what can happen in them. And when I agreed, because it really intrigued me, I thought, okay, there's something here for me to learn and to discover because it's about our soul. It's about our soul's records. And it's about somebody like myself now able to access one's soul records to bring forth that wisdom. When I had my session with her, my Akashic masters and teachers, which is who she channeled, asked me to take the class. I was like, what? I was shocked and surprised. And so I agreed. And it was the best decision I ever made.
Johnny BurkeI've heard some people tell me it's a record of all things that have happened and will happen. And then others say it's just a record of, for instance, all of your past lives. It's like a library of sorts. Could that either be true for certain people or not necessarily?
Kelly S. JonesOr smush them together, really. Because most people will think records as in it's a recording of the past. That's what we're familiar with in this timeline, right? We don't have a sense of I know exactly what my future is going to be. So we have the feeling in our own timeline, this third dimension, that we have a past, we have a present, and we're creating the future. It's not created yet. So what the records do is it's a recording of our journey through not only this lifetime, but lifetimes. And so we're able to, in the records, be we're able to look in the past, but the expedition, if you will, of looking in one's records and doing an Akashic record reading is not about the past. It's actually about the present moment. And it's always about what's our next best step. So if in the present moment, looking into the past or getting a past life, a past lifetime, and let's say an occurrence, something that we did or something that we experienced, or someone that's in our life today that was in our life in the past, then if that information is useful now, it comes forward. But just to try and look and do all this for me, right, doing all this past life look see as its only purpose, where it has no meaning right now is like a flat line. It's just like boring. I was Cleopatra in the past life, or I was this one or that one. So what does that mean?
Johnny BurkeWhat does it mean today?
Kelly S. JonesCorrect. How is it relevant? If you were a leader in the past and you did well by people, then maybe you're teaching others how to be philanthropic, for example. Or if you were abusive, maybe you're experiencing a life this time where you're having that memory brought back up so that you can heal, you can try things from another side, and you can right, if you will, the mistakes that were made in the past. And it's kind of interesting, even using that word mistakes. There are no mistakes per se, but there are experiences, right, that we can have a regret around, or we have resentment around, or we have guilt around. And if we have those emotions that are still active in our being, in our soul, right, our soul pattern, we want to heal that and bring that to neutrality.
Johnny BurkeThere's a few things that I think the records have in common with past life readings and perhaps past life regression, or maybe both. The timeline that you mentioned seems to imply all these things are happening at once. It's not on a horizontal axis. And the other thing is you mentioned the past lives that come up are only the ones that are significant for that person today that would help them feel something or learn something. Okay, so they're very closely related then, right?
Kelly S. JonesCorrect. So really there is only now. There's always been only now, and there'll always be only now. So really we're talking about vertical time. And so all things, all potentials actually exist. And it's always based on our choice. That's our point of power. So based on a choice I make now, I'm in a trajectory in one direction. But all the other choices are available, and there is a timeline, let's say, for them, but I'm not choosing that. So it collapses those other timelines for my present moment into what my choice is projecting me toward, correct?
Johnny BurkeThat seems to make sense to me, at least in a linear sense. The foray into the records, was that your introduction to the metaphysical world or were there things that happened before that?
Kelly S. JonesNo, my journey started actually with the feng shui. So I was actually in the process of getting a separation, and my life needed some balance and harmony. And when I was in group therapy, somebody said the words feng shui across the room. I would say I wasn't supposed to hear that, and I did. And so I had to leave the conversation I was in and walk over there and say, okay, I need to know more. What is this? What can happen as a result of working with this? And so I had a consultation with a woman, and it piqued enough of my interest that I started studying it. And so that's where my metaphysical journey really began. And then that got dovetailed with Chinese astrology. So I learned Chinese astrology at the same time I did Feng Shui because they really go hand in hand. And happy Chinese lunar new year to everybody if they're watching it today.
Johnny BurkeYeah, today's February the 17th. You've also had some other experiences when you were younger, which involve one, if not two, biblical figures when you were 14.
Kelly S. JonesThat is correct. I would imagine quite a few of us have felt like we were done living on the planet. Life was very difficult. For me, my childhood was very difficult. And I came to a place I felt done at 14 years old. It's so interesting when our spirit is so vehement and so adamant and so clear. It's so powerful. We create portals, we create experiences, and I had no idea. It took me years after this experience to understand what happened. And I said to God, I said, You know what? You put me in here, you take me out. I didn't have to do it myself. God's that powerful. I just need to make the command. That evening, Jesus appeared to me. Now I was raised Catholic. I don't practice it. I would consider myself more spiritual now. But he appeared, and I knew it was him. It was like more of an energy. I knew at first it was him. The space that I was in at that point in time was pure white. And I was immovable. I couldn't move. And then I saw him, but I just saw like an outline of him. And he just beamed this love at me. Again, I couldn't move. And it scared me. It was like, oh, I'm at a choice point. I don't know how that happened, but I could tell, right? And I tried to move, to wake up, and I couldn't.
Johnny BurkeSo you were dreaming or you were awake. How did that happen?
Kelly S. JonesI kept struggling, and then eventually I could open my eyes, but I still couldn't move. It was like I was in a shell. It was like I was behind my eyes, I was in the body, but I couldn't move the body except for the eyelids opened. And then I wouldn't see him, and I'd close my eyes and he'd be there again. And I did this a couple of times, and then I finally struggled enough that I could move. And what I discovered decades later was that I was seeing him on the inner planes. You could say fourth dimension, I'm not sure fourth, fifth dimension, what dimension I was in. It was certainly not third dimension. You could say it was if you're in a meditative state, let's say, right? Because even when I access the records, we go from beta to alpha or theta. And so I could have been in the alpha or theta state, actually having this experience with him. Well, you're not in your body at that point, right? At least when you're in a dream state, you're not. Okay. Here I can do it consciously, be in those other states, but at that time I could not. Eventually, I woke myself up into the physical realm to recognize what the experience was, but no longer be able to connect with him. And I made my choice, clearly, to stay.
Johnny BurkeThat's a pretty intense experience. So when you were in the dream state, did he say anything or not really?
Kelly S. JonesHe didn't need to.
Johnny BurkeDidn't need to.
Kelly S. JonesWhen I say white, I don't even know how to describe it. It was blindingly white. It was overwhelming white. The silence pierced everything in my being, and it spoke volumes without having to say a word, right? It was like everything was said without saying a thing. And I was like, okay, I'm here to stay.
Johnny BurkeIt's a very cool experience, and I think it does give some people hope that are not necessarily religious but spiritual. Another experience that you had, interestingly enough, was of Mary Magdalene. How did that happen?
Kelly S. JonesI went to a silent retreat for the first time. And it was a weekend silent retreat. It was a three-day. And for me, it was the first time I really asked for a sign. I'm like, give me a sign that I know you're here with me, spirit. I want to find a feather. Supposedly you're not supposed to go look for it, et cetera, et cetera.
Johnny BurkeWhy is it always a feather? I've heard that like a dozen or so times. Is it a white feather?
Kelly S. JonesActually, white feathers to me mean I'm getting a new house. I'm moving. So that's my white feather. Yeah. The second day of the treat, I went walking around. I'm like, I know I'm not supposed to look, but I gotta look. The last night we're in group and we're leaving. We had our meal and I had to go to the car to get something. And I come walking down the path, and here's this big tree stump, right? People can sit on it. It's kind of like leveled and cleared. And there is at least a 15 to 17 inch feather propped up. I'm still getting chills thinking about it. Just propped up. Like somebody saw it, knew it wasn't for them, put it in the tree, and I was the one walking down the path to see it. I screamed, it was like squealed, you know, with excitement to go, oh my gosh, you are listening, you are answering. And so that was part of what happened next is I end up at a friend's and I'm talking and talking and talking and talking and all this stuff about the weekend and all the insights I'd gotten, and I was just so excited, and he and I could really speak that language well. And I'm about, oh, hour into the conversation, and I was like, okay, bye, and I'm leaving. And all of a sudden I had this, oh my God, I'm missing a meeting I'm supposed to be in, which is a Sunday, so it's already unusual. And I'm like, oh my gosh, I'm supposed to be in a, you know, in a group meeting. We're putting on a weekend event. I'm one of the presenters. I'm already half late into the meeting. I call up the people right away. I'm like, I am so sorry. But here's what the other part is like, I knew I was exactly where I needed to be. I knew nothing was wrong with me being where I was, sharing what I was sharing. And I was like, okay. And they go, okay, no problem. Come, be safe, drive safe. And I'm like, I'm a business person. You don't do this. People don't show up halfway late and go, sure, come. So I get there and they start the whole meeting over for me. I was like, what? So then I'm we're going to walk for a photo op. And I hear in my spirit, my my mind, my heart, my ears turn hard left. And I just stop and I look, and here is a portrait of Mary Magdalene. It like struck me right in the heart, and I was like, oh, I ended up getting a print of that original. It was just so stunning. And everybody's waiting for me again now to do the photo op. And I'm thinking, you guys have no idea what is going on in my world right now. Things are just very unusual. I don't remember if it was a month or two at that time. I'm in bed and my partner's in the shower at the time. So it's like 11:30 at night, it's late at night. And all of a sudden I hear spend 40 days with me from six to nine at night. And I knew it was Mary Magdalene. I just knew in my being, I was like, oh, and I immediately said yes. Like when spirit speaks to you, when God talks to you, you say I say yes anyway. And I had been feeling something about doing something for Lent. Now that how I was raised, Catholic. And I hadn't done anything for Lent in forever. But I was like, oh, I wonder. That was me getting the seeds of thought before it even came. So I was like, I wonder what are these 40 days? Because she was like, start Friday or something. I don't remember what it was like a couple of days from that point. And I went and looked, and sure, I think Wednesday, Ash Wednesday is when Lent starts. So here it is, I think Monday night or Sunday night, and it was Wednesday. And I was like, oh, wow. And so I did. And just to wrap the story up, at the very end, I was initiated into a hierarchical circle of women, right? Like Kwan Yin was part of it, Mother Mary, Mary Magdalene, etc.
Johnny BurkeIs that something to do with the divine feminine or not necessarily?
Kelly S. JonesYes. They call themselves the Sisters of Light. And so I was initiated into this and I was robed. There was a ceremony, and I was robed. I couldn't believe it. Two months later, I'm at a gathering in another town over, and I'm in a new space in this building. So I walked around the corner and it was like upstairs or something. The robe I was robed with was in a huge case. I just stopped.
Johnny BurkeWhere did the robe come from?
Kelly S. JonesIn the etheric realm. And then here it was in the physical, in a glass box, a shadow box, the full size hanging in the hallway. I don't know that I even found out where that robe specifically came from. I don't know that anybody in the place at the time knew.
Johnny BurkeSo what I'm trying to do here is piece together some events. You saw Christ when you were very young. You had the etheric realm experience with Mary Magdalene and the Sisters of Light. When you spent time with them, what did they tell you? Was there a lesson? How did that work?
Kelly S. JonesSo my experience was a couple of layers. Number one was getting in touch with my own emotions and my own life experiences, meaning, where had I already been in this lifetime? Where had I lost myself? Where was I going? What had I learned? And how do I hold space for my becoming? So I still had and have had a lot of lessons since then, but it was really a deepening and a deep connection and a remembrance, if you will, of my divinity, of my feminine divinity, and part of why I came here on this planet at this time and in this body, in this form, so that others really align to love. I hold a frequency of love. I hold a golden energy. Gold is my color. I know a lot of people say silver is for women, but gold is also a color that I carry, the highest vibration actually that I carry. They're actually adding right now the violet flame as well. So are you familiar with any of those?
Johnny BurkeI've heard of it. Did this happen in the dream world in your waking life? Is it right before you went to bed? When did it actually take place?
Kelly S. JonesIt happened on a daily basis from six to nine at night. So I would pretty much have dinner with them awake with my journal, having my meal, and listening. So part of that was training the brain, the mind to calm, training it to get centered. Sometimes it would take me two hours to even get to that state. Sometimes I could never get to that state. Sometimes I got there quickly. So it was a very disciplined time to be able to commit. That's a long time. If anybody's done something for 40 days and out of the blue, you're doing it for three hours a night. I haven't been able to do it since. I've thought about it.
Johnny BurkeFrom a vision or experience of Christ when you were young to the 40 nights with Mary Magdalene, and then you experienced something to do with Christ-like transmissions. How did that happen?
Kelly S. JonesI was setting up a new space and setting up the healing room of that space. It was probably within about a year or two of that experience with Mary Magdalene. And it was the first time I was actually going to see people in person to do energy healing work. I had studied hypnosis, I had studied Reiki, I studied energy healing with Rosalind Briere. She's world renowned. And I was setting up the room, putting out the massage table, and all of a sudden comes barreling out of the ceiling into my crown chakra, do Christ light transmissions. That's Christ, right? And then light, L-I-G-H-T transmissions. And I literally ducked. I was like, it came so strong, so powerful. I ducked, and then I looked up and I said yes. I was like, yes. When spirit speaks, I say yes.
Johnny BurkeI think a lot of people would say yes too.
Kelly S. JonesI said, but you have to tell me what they are and how to do them. I hear you, but I don't know what it means. I went to a trade show called the Parliament of World Religions. It's where I think like a hundred-something countries and eighty-something religions, or vice versa, get together. And it's quite a dynamic event. And I went and I was so afraid to call them Christ light transmissions. I called them Akashic Record Transmissions. And I'm in my humor.
Johnny BurkeLikely cover. I like that.
Kelly S. JonesYeah. And I'm literally at this trade show, and on the first day, by the end of the first day, I jokingly call it being spirit spanked, but spirit doesn't spank. And it was like, call it what we asked you to right away. I mean, that night I was correcting my literature. It was like, you are not doing akashic record transmissions. You are doing Christ-like transmissions.
Johnny BurkeAnd so what they are Christ-like transmission, does that have anything to do with light language? Or is it something completely different?
Kelly S. JonesIt's different. Because even the Akashic records are a language of light. But it's not like speaking in tongues or light language that people speak. It still comes through me as English, just like we're talking here now. So what we do is when we actually use words or when I use words and I'm in the records or I'm doing a Christ light, I'm translating with precision the closest vibration to what's happening energetically in the light.
Johnny BurkeCan you do that at will or do you have to prepare for it?
Kelly S. JonesI can do it at will with a prayer. Within less than a minute, I'm connected to somebody. So one has to be willing. They have to want the energy and the transmission. And then the prayer sets up the sacred container that I can connect with them and their guides and what their soul actually wants to have healing around or transformation around. Or like I even did a session today. And so it was very much about healing three of the chakras, the sacral, then the heart, and then the power center, actually. And it was then in that order. So there's always a trust of what spirit wants to do and the order in which it needs to happen. So it's about looking at what the body stores cellularly, emotionally, and mentally. And then we're bringing spirit in to help clear and create pathways of harmony, of flow wherever there might not be. So our stories are held in different parts of our body, the organs, and even our thought process, the mental realm. Each session is dynamic, each session is different. What everybody needs and at any one time can be very different.
Johnny BurkeDo you ever do a Christlight transmission in the same session as an Akashic Records reading, or are they not meant to be done together?
Kelly S. JonesThat's a great question. Typically, no, but that doesn't mean. It doesn't happen. So, in other words, if something's coming up that's deep and strong and rooted in the body, that energy, we're taking care of it right then and there. We're not waiting. When I'm doing a Christ light, there's actually a very strong connection to the Akash. So what the body is asking for to happen, it has like a different doorway in, if you will. And I'm still communicating and we're talking about different events or things that are bringing up like sadness or forgiveness or things of that nature that the body is saying, let's do this. And there's a movement. It's like I can feel and see their guides and the spirits and the angels and whoever wants to help and participate. That's what happens through that gateway. So they're different, they have their own kind of lane, but they cross over at the same time.
Johnny BurkeChristlight transmissions are something similar. Do you think that actually might happen in a typical, say, a Catholic church?
Kelly S. JonesA Christlight transmission, I've experienced there is languaging in the Catholic Church for pretty much everything I do. And that was surprising. I was like, okay, so if I do it, it's not okay. But if you do it and you call it this, it is.
Johnny BurkeVery interesting because a woman I interviewed named Betty Kovach, really bright lady. She was basically saying Christianity had inverted the myth and shamed things like shamanism and mysticism and made us worship a God outside of us when it's really inside of us. So if you were able to do that, but they were not, because they were worshiping something that they view as outside of them.
Kelly S. Jones100%. And I agree because it was a control factor. So it became about controlling. So if I tell you you can't do it unless I sanction it, unless I say it's okay, then everybody out there becomes dark, the devil, the whatever. When I had some conversations and talking about channeling, well, they're calling it something else, but doing the same thing. And they're doing it, but it's all under the church's umbrella, so they feel safe in it. And it's not trusting in oneself and one's own ability, like your friend said. It's an innate truth within us. Jesus said, This I do, and you can do so much more.
Johnny BurkeYes, he did. He also said in the na Khamadi texts, don't worship me, become me.
Kelly S. JonesExactly.
Johnny BurkeWhat would it be like if this became commonplace where people could speak light language, they could do Christ-like transmissions and things like that. Would you think the movement would be towards religion or away from it?
Kelly S. JonesAway.
Johnny BurkeAlright.
Kelly S. JonesCompletely away from religion. My experience is that the dogma, the control, the rules, the you need to follow are in some way the people that are doing it because they feel like there's a safeguard. They feel like there's a belonging and there's fear, right? If I'm not part of you, then I'm gonna die. I'm gonna be over here separate and not taking care of. So we put our power and trust and faith in something outside of us instead of the direct connection, which is God source, the universe is my supply, my source, my success, my everything. And I do that a lot in my coaching and even in the Akashic readings. It's like helping people to realize it's not your spouse, it's not your boss and the job that you work at, it's not the government, it's nobody outside of yourself is where you're sourcing, let's say, your abundance or your safety or your support. It's this way, it's vertical. So, in that doing, then I take my power back. And then I can be in my own agency and have my authenticity and know that I'm not going to not be taken care of because I'm being my true self.
Johnny BurkeSo now that we solved that issue, let's talk about some of your past life memories. Some of them go pretty far back. I think you know which one I'm talking about.
Kelly S. JonesI do.
Johnny BurkeDid you do a past life regression with Dolores Cannon?
Kelly S. JonesI did. Yeah, that was phenomenal. My partner at the time, we had just moved to Asheville. He goes, Let's organize Dolores Cannon. I'm like, Who are you? It was like, what's the kind of stuff I would do? And we brought her to Asheville. She did a hypnosis class for all of us. I ended up being her subject at the end of the class. And she did a regression with me. And it was interesting because I went back to, I was alive with my one daughter was my daughter in that lifetime. My partner at that time was my partner in that lifetime as well. And it was the big flood.
Johnny BurkeThe big flood. So how long ago was this?
Kelly S. JonesI don't even know what to tell you on that. We were migrating on foot. And my parents in that lifetime, they were the tribe king and queen. And I don't feel like those were the right words. I and my partner and daughter went and we walked away, and they stayed behind with everybody that couldn't leave, but we could, and we were blessed to leave because we needed to take those who wanted to continue, and we wanted to continue.
Johnny BurkeWhere did you come from, though?
Kelly S. JonesThe consciousness at the time didn't have states, countries. There were no names. It was like this was your land, and these were your people, and that's how you lived. In that lifetime, I was a death dueler. I helped people transition, and I was able to see both sides of life: the living, this side of living, and that side of living. And I helped people transition, but clearly we weren't meant to. So I don't know. It's like I have the visual in my mind, but I don't know where it is on the planet.
Johnny BurkeIt sounds like an ancient civilization. We're talking the Great Flood. Does anybody know how long ago that was?
Kelly S. JonesI don't even know. But when I think of Noah's Ark and that flood, is that the flood? Is that the big flood? I in the lifetime I was in, there was no ark. There was no idea of an ark, and it was just a land and valley. I don't even know what we had as far as clothing. It felt animal. It felt very rustic.
Johnny BurkeMaybe this is right around the same time, but you had a past life in Atlantis where some of your students mishandled somehow sacred teachings. Was that before then? Or is it hard to say?
Kelly S. JonesOh, was that before? No, that was after.
Johnny BurkeThat was afterwards. Okay.
Kelly S. JonesThe Atlantis was after, yeah, the flood.
Johnny BurkeDo you remember what the buildings looked like or anything like that?
Kelly S. JonesSo I have this image in my mind that is very connected to that lifetime. And I'm seeing like iridescent blue, like blues, golds, what I'm seeing are those were the sacred buildings, and there were some that were all made of crystal. But there are other buildings that were steel, more metal structures where I was in a city of sorts.
Johnny BurkeWhat would be like the closest comp to what those buildings looked like?
Kelly S. JonesSo I'm being shown like tall structures that have lines. Some of them were architecture in the sense of it was like a facade, a facing. In other words, it's got a design that the structures had a hum, and the structures communicated with one another. So it wasn't just people that communicated, but the actual structures, like they were saying, living structures. So the living structures had an interplay, and you could say like sound, they sound like singing bowls. So it was like they had sounds, and so those held frequencies. And so you got to attune and align to the frequency of that building when you went in for the purpose of discovery, learning, sharing, etc. And so in those certain frequencies, you attuned to and could receive more clearly, let's say, that download or that information. And then it became more easily and readily available to actually share, to use, right? You couldn't go in one building and discover, learn, gather information and go to a building that was incongruent with it and use it. Certain things weren't allowed. So they kind of got a little bit too smart for their britches.
Johnny BurkeI've heard that.
Kelly S. JonesAnd so, in being too smart for their britches, they started to create devices that blocked the frequencies. So then more, let's call it nefarious things could happen. And so they're showing me I was a very high wisdom teacher, and I was very enthusiastic, but the lesson I missed is that I didn't quote unquote read the room very well. So I was just so excited to share and educate and form and evolve right sacred wisdom teachings. But a lot of the stuff wasn't divulged. It wasn't for the masses to know, and still there's some degree of that today. It's like those who wanted to control didn't want those to know. Well, that's what started turning then. So here I'm teaching these high-level spiritual teachings, and they were inverted.
Johnny BurkeSo then common theme.
Kelly S. JonesYeah.
Johnny BurkeSo did that give you a clue as to how Atlantis eventually perished, that the civilization fell, or was that much later?
Kelly S. JonesIt was further down from the start. It wasn't the start, but it was a little further down the pike. I got trapped in it. I became part of the trap, if you will. In other words, the energy had already started shifting.
Johnny BurkeDo you remember the fall itself or did you not live during that timeline?
Kelly S. JonesUm being shown I died. I died as it was crumbling. It was inevitable at the time that I transitioned. I wasn't there in the transition exactly, but it was foretold at that point. It was forewarned. It was no turning back.
Johnny BurkeNo turning back, okay.
Kelly S. JonesWhich is great. So for me, my experience was immense guilt.
Johnny BurkeI've been told many people that were in Atlantis are being reborn, reincarnated in today's timeline in order to share knowledge to bring us back.
Kelly S. JonesThere's a reckoning. There's many layers and many levels to this. So for example, having done what I did, that I needed to forgive myself. And the other piece of not only what did I do that I need to forgive is I need to forgive others for what they did. So we're either on one side of that equation. So there's many walking the planet that need to forgive because they feel as if they're the problem. They did this.
Johnny BurkeIn other words, that is more than likely that there are many souls walking the earth today that lived back then and they're coming back for purpose.
Kelly S. JonesAbsolutely. Absolutely. Because there's also this opportunity of how are we going to correct what we did before and do it in a way that we're going to actually evolve consciousness and humanity and not repeat what we did before. And actually, to me, we are we will have first contact. We will have divine intervention, if you will, the ETs, the off-planet beings will be showing up to help us.
Johnny BurkeI hear that too. And it's going to be sometime soon, I think.
Kelly S. JonesYes.
Johnny BurkeNow might be a good time to read the records.
Kelly S. JonesOr you have some questions.
Johnny BurkeI've never had this done before. I'm just going to let you do your thing.
Kelly S. JonesYou gotta ask a question. Ask a question.
Johnny BurkeOne was about disclosure. Are we going to see that by the end of 2027 at the latest?
Kelly S. JonesHere's what the Kashik masters and teachers are sharing. They're actually walking among you now. And so for those with the eyes to see and the ears to hear, so those would be people that look of a certain nature or move in a certain cadence or have certain character traits that are just slightly unique. Number two would be the wisdom that comes from them. There's a posturing, there's a way in which they conduct and carry themselves that is both calming as well as clearing. So in a way, they have the ability to clear the energy of a space when they show up. There's a calmness that comes in as a result of it. Many people are afraid, and it's not because of what they think. So it's not that they're afraid of them, they're afraid of what they don't know about them.
Johnny BurkeNext question would be who was I in a past life that is important to what I'm doing now?
Kelly S. JonesAll right, masters and teachers. What past life is most important for Johnny to know today? They're showing me it's it's sweet, because they're showing me like you're small and hidden. So you were a like a hidden sleuth. You were one who was very curious, and you got in trouble, young, for being so curious. And so you got the mindset that it wasn't okay, but you couldn't help it. It was just your nature, and you found out things, and in that finding out, you felt unsafe to share it, and yet it was important for you to share. That was part of your life lesson was to learn to actually share, to overcome that fear and to share it. And you're actually doing that now. Doing this. What you're doing right now is part of it. So you're getting to express a level of curiosity that you couldn't out in the open, and now you are, and now you can be damned with them or to hell with them. This is your attitude in this lifetime. It's just, I'm doing this, come hell or high water. It doesn't matter what they say.
Johnny BurkeYou know when this took place?
Kelly S. JonesWhat is this lifetime? Oh, they're showing me wartime. Oh, it's wartime. Is it World War II? Because you're young. You're a young boy. Oh, it's not in this country. Okay, it's not in this country. It's in it's Israel.
Johnny BurkeReally?
Kelly S. JonesIsrael. And it's not a war. I don't know the name of it.
Johnny BurkeYou know how long ago it was?
Kelly S. JonesThat's what I'm getting right now. 210, 225 years ago.
Johnny BurkeHow much?
Kelly S. Jones225, 210 years ago. Like I see you in rubble. You're small and low, and you're trying to be undetectable.
Johnny BurkeHere's another one. To get to the new earth, the fifth dimension, or whatever age we're supposed to be going to, I've been told that some souls will exist in the new earth and some will be left behind. But there's something that Dolores Cannon was known for saying, which I think was troublesome, because she said we have to let go of the anger and the fear to move into the new world, otherwise we will be left behind. Is that true or not necessarily?
Kelly S. JonesIf our energy field is closed down in a state of, let's say, anger, resentment, rage, unforgiveness, we can't see beyond that. It's going to hold us back. So it's about more of a self-awareness situation. And what do I want to do as a result of this? Is this where I want to stay? Is this what I want to experience? Or am I willing to have a different experience? Am I willing to allow and experience more love in my life? It's really what we're talking about. It's like Jesus isn't coming again. There's no second coming per se, as if it's somebody outside of ourselves. It's us awakening from within ourselves. And so we all have to do that journey. And we all will. Nobody's going to be left behind as far as that's concerned, right? But we have to make it our intent to heal anything that is not in a state of peace and unity and beauty and wholeness, so that we can come into harmony with not only Gaia, but humanity. And now we're in Aquarius season, age of Aquarius, which is about the we. So it's no longer me, me, me. We've had that experience. And now it's about going into the we. I've got to take you into consideration as part of me. So if I'm closed off trying to be a victim and trying to play that role, I can't open up to include you because I'm into still the me. So if I'm here, I'm not going to interact with somebody like you, let's say, who is open and receptive, and you want to come be a part of my life, and you want to involve me, and you want me to know I'm just going, yeah, but I got all this stuff going on.
Johnny BurkeOne last question about the past life in Israel. I think what you were referring to was the country that is now Israel, because Israel did not exist 200 years ago, whatever it is.
Kelly S. JonesIt's there location-wise.
Johnny BurkeOkay. All right. Kelly, it's been a great episode here. Thanks for joining us and doing the reading. In the meantime, how can our listeners find you online?
Kelly S. JonesThank you, Johnny. It's a pleasure being here. My website, thank you for asking, is Kellysjones.net. So K-E-L-L-Y-S-J-O-N-E-S.net.
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