#248 Spirit Encounters and Messages from Future Souls with Kendra Lockheart

Johnny Burke interviews Kendra Lockhart, a ministerial dropout and former professional psychic who now teaches “awakeners” higher mind mastery to unlearn collective programming and normalize paranormal experiences through intuition, intention, and integration. Kendra recounts a group prayer demonstration in a church class where the room crackled with an electric presence and her rent money arrived the same day, shifting the faith of about 45 people. She explains leaving professional psychic work because clients used it as a crutch, preferring a coaching approach. She describes childhood clairaudience, including a disturbing entity in a new home urging her to “come to the other side,” and later sensing earthbound ghosts by temperature changes. Kendra also shares automatic writing and dream experiences with “future souls,” including names she later met and a future goddaughter, plus past-life viewing as an observer, emphasizing discernment and the value of one’s physical-life participation.

00:00 Welcome and Guest Intro

00:50 Church Roots and Ministry Path

02:27 Group Prayer Paranormal Moment

05:01 Why She Quit Being Psychic

07:40 Childhood Spirit Encounters

11:29 Earthbound Ghosts in College

12:19 Training Awakeners and Intuition

15:07 Messages From Future Souls

18:36 Past Lives and Talent Carryover

22:45 Dream World vs Spirit World

26:00 Key Lessons and Life Trust

28:05 Where to Find Kendra OnlineKendra Lockhart on Group Prayer Phenomena, Discernment, and Messages from Future Souls

Transcript

SPEAKER_00 0:01

Welcome to Closer to Venus. I'm Johnny Burke. Today's guest is Kendra Lockhart. She is a ministerial dropout and former psychic. Her work involves training awakeners by using higher mind mastery to unlearn collective programming. In this episode, we'll discuss an experience of paranormal intervention as well as messages from future souls. Kendra, welcome to the program.

SPEAKER_01 0:26

Hi, thanks for having me.

SPEAKER_00 0:28

So, ministerial dropout, were you actually training to be in the ministry or was it something else?

SPEAKER_01 0:35

I was training. My first experiences metaphysically were inside the church. And when I went off into my adult life, sooner or later I came back to that and started taking the curriculum.

SPEAKER_00 0:47

What kind of experiences did you have within the church then?

SPEAKER_01 0:50

As a child, I was very connected to what people would call source or the divine. I was more metaphysical than physical for a very long time. The church seemed to be the place where I could relax enough and trust what was happening.

SPEAKER_00 1:06

Did you have any kind of feedback from your cohorts or colleagues within the church about your experiences, or did you keep that to yourself?

SPEAKER_01 1:15

There was one experience that was happening to the whole group with me being an example. So there was support from that, and the reason why I left was this junior pastor.

SPEAKER_00 1:27

What was the experience in the church then?

SPEAKER_01 1:29

This was as an adult that I was returning to this curriculum and I was having a very hard time with one of the core pillars in the curriculum, prayer. The reverend who was teaching at the time said, Is there anybody who's struggling with this? And I said, Yeah, me. And he said, Great, stand up, let's let's do a demonstration that prayer works all the time. So all right. He said, What is your problem? I said, Well, rent is due. I have a very uh aggressive landlord that if it's even a day late, eviction papers are filed and the money isn't there right now. I was a professional artist and didn't have any work that particular month.

SPEAKER_00 2:06

So what exactly was the experience then? Was this a paranormal experience or was it something else?

SPEAKER_01 2:12

It was paranormal, and several people from that curriculum, still to this day, fifteen years later, talk about it. He went into a state of prayer that we were gonna call in the money for the rent on time, and the room crackled. Everyone had the same feedback as did you feel something electric running through the room? I said, I did, and five other people did as well.

SPEAKER_00 2:34

An electrical surge?

SPEAKER_01 2:36

It was some presence that was so forceful and potent. Yes. That's my best description of it. Beyond the rent showed up, and by the end of that day, a client who had been traveling texted and said, I'm home early, can I pick my project up tonight? And it was the exact amount of my rent. When I shared that, the whole room absolutely exploded, and then everyone's faith was shifted. This was a classroom of about forty-five people.

SPEAKER_00 3:00

So there were other experiencers. You didn't just experience that by yourself, in other words.

SPEAKER_01 3:06

It's my only experience of group paranormal, but yes.

SPEAKER_00 3:11

You also consider yourself a former psychic, which means you were a psychic at one point.

SPEAKER_01 3:17

I've always been claraudien. Took a while and some awkward childhood social experiences to realize not everyone has this skill developed. The reason why I consider myself a former psychic, it's a mutual win if I step away from it and other people step into theirs versus enabling. I was a professional psychic for a long time, and it became too much of a crutch for people. They didn't get into their discipline of their own ability. They were just constantly, whenever anything felt uncertain, call chandra, call chandra. And I thought this isn't a healthy exchange. So now I consider myself a mystic. Instead of developing skills of clair audience, clairvoyance, cleare cognizance, I surrendered to divine experiences and I ask other people too as well.

SPEAKER_00 4:06

So you thought that these people, clients, were not doing enough work on their own, and they just relied on you for different answers and different solutions, I guess. Is that what it was?

SPEAKER_01 4:19

It is. And one of the ways that I can talk about it now is it's like Ozembik. You're taking a weight loss drug, you're getting results, but you're not building your own discipline. What happens when the drug goes away? So when I stop answering your phone calls, you don't have your own inner support system. I'd rather be like a coach or a mentor, and you're putting in the time to grow versus the safety net.

SPEAKER_00 4:45

When you first noticed your psychic abilities, was that your introduction to the metaphysical world or were there experiences before that?

SPEAKER_01 4:53

I would say it was my introduction to the metaphysical world. As a kid, everything seemed very wide open. I was one of those souls that fought the closing or fizzling out or fading of that experience. And like I said, I was more metaphysical than physical. I didn't realize other people didn't have this relationship.

SPEAKER_00 5:11

Did that experience include being able to talk to people beyond the veil or not really?

SPEAKER_01 5:17

That did happen in my childhood. It put a strain on my relationship with my parents. They're very conservative and uptight, and it's almost comical. They're both atheists, so for their construct in reality to be disrupted by me as an example was a little tense.

SPEAKER_00 5:33

I can imagine. So can you describe some of the experiences where they with past family members or friends or people you didn't know?

SPEAKER_01 5:42

The first one that very much upset them is we were going to be moving into a new house. And as we were walking through it, I said, Not this one, not this one. And they wanted to know why. I said, because of the guy, the guy in the corner in the family room there. We're not doing it. This is an unhappy place. And they just dismissed it as childhood imagination. We moved into that house and there was plenty of what I would consider paranormal residue. I had one of my worst childhood metaphysical experiences in that home.

SPEAKER_00 6:17

With the man in the corner of the room. So what exactly happened then?

SPEAKER_01 6:22

He was someone I could hear. I don't know when he died or what his uh story was. I was nine years old, and he just kept trying to convince me to come to the other side that my life was going to be very miserable. Look around. Your parents don't believe you. Look at how much better it is for your half-brother. They adore him, he's gonna have a wonderful normal life. And you, you've been ignored and denounced for your gifts. Why don't you just come to the other side?

SPEAKER_00 6:50

Definitely not good. So would you consider that entity, the man in the corner, let's say, an earthbound ghost?

SPEAKER_01 6:57

As a child, I considered it a displaced soul. But with age and more experiences and some hindsight, I would say it was probably something that was from a different place than an incarnation that lived and then never left the home.

SPEAKER_00 7:14

Would that be an extraterrestrial or you're not really sure?

SPEAKER_01 7:17

I'm not really sure. I would just to this day, for the few people that I do share it with, I just consider it uh an extension of some dark force.

SPEAKER_00 7:26

Kind of a nebulous area because you can't really tell exactly what he or she was. Have you had experiences with ghosts where you could definitely judge them as an earthbound ghost? They never really crossed over to the light and they never went to the light. Have you had any experiences like that?

SPEAKER_01 7:44

That would have been down in college. You could tell that somebody hadn't finished the process and we laughed about it at the time. Now I'm 1920. Don't go over to the Kranart Theater, you know, all the old actors are still there, things like that. When you do walk through those spaces, one of the ways that I can physically sense is there's a temperature difference. Either there's almost like a little pocket of cold or hot.

SPEAKER_00 8:09

So you've obviously had the ability to communicate from beyond the veil. You also mentioned something about training awakeners. Now, is that related to ascension or is that something altogether different?

SPEAKER_01 8:22

I don't necessarily take responsibility for the game of ascension when I do the work. What I do want, like what we're doing here, is to normalize these conversations. We've definitely shut ourselves off from an important experience that can be full of critical information. One of the things I like to do is because my experience was reverse, is I was always open and had to learn how to develop it to fit a physical reality. I have friends and clients and students who have had a metaphysical experience or something supernatural, paranormal, and they're scared, they're shocked, they're disoriented, and then they shut everything down that could be growth because it was a little uncomfortable. Where I step in is I'd help people train their intuition, their intention, and their integration so that this becomes more natural, so that you can crawl and walk and eventually run through both worlds.

SPEAKER_00 9:21

When you mean both worlds, you basically coach them in a manner that makes these metaphysical experiences not so much out of the ordinary. Is that what it is?

SPEAKER_01 9:31

I'd like them to be normalized, I'd like them to be less jarring for people and to let them know that perhaps there's something very important in them, like there was for me. My life has to be prepared for situations that came in later was one of the most priceless gifts of my experiences. And I know that friends are suffering because of it.

SPEAKER_00 9:56

Now you mentioned something about not being responsible for someone's ascension. Can you tell us a little bit more about that?

SPEAKER_01 10:02

I think it falls into a little too much of a religious context. I'm careful that I'm not trying to help them through their faith path into going to heaven or whatever their version of ascension is. If they want to bring it back to something a little more, a little less biased, if they want to say, hey, I just really am looking to be in a different dimension more often than not, then I'm here for that.

SPEAKER_00 10:28

Now you've also had some experiences with messages from future souls. What exactly was that?

SPEAKER_01 10:35

That was something that I helped to train my abilities psychically, especially the Claire audience. I was in the library reading up on ESP as a kid. I was practicing with Xener cards and asking my half-brother to quiz me. And then the most important breakthrough, my mom had a book. It was very 70s at the time. I think it was Ruth Montgomery. It was automatic writing. So I stole that book from her collection and practiced when she wasn't around. That was what really allowed the experience of future souls to happen. What that looks like is in the waking state, I went into lucid mind, grabbed my pen and paper, and wrote down a bunch of names. Fast forward 20, 30, 40 years, I've met every single one of them, and they've all been part of my spiritual cohesion, and I've returned the favor to them as I've been part of their awakening and development of their gifts. The ones that came in the dream state were extremely realistic. I had a dream about my future goddaughter. She came to me and said, I need you to be my mother. This isn't what my name is going to be, this is how I'm going to look. There was a time when I had a false pregnancy and I felt that soul again. And I thought, I remember you, and I know you want to come through me, but please pick somebody close to me. I've made my decision not to have children in this lifetime, and now she is the daughter of my best friend.

SPEAKER_00 12:06

And you've had contact with her since then?

SPEAKER_01 12:09

For thirteen years.

SPEAKER_00 12:10

So how did you determine that she was the daughter of your best friend?

SPEAKER_01 12:14

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_00 12:15

Okay, how did you figure that out?

SPEAKER_01 12:17

Because she looks exactly like the one that came in the dream and has the exact same name, which is a very unusual name, but I had never heard that name before.

SPEAKER_00 12:26

Okay. Other than future souls, what do you suppose we would call these people or these entities? Is there another name for it or not necessarily?

SPEAKER_01 12:34

I don't know what else to call them other than they are a soul who has yet to incarnate, and the reason why this experience was so important to me is because it made me trust my own future, and for whatever the experience was, it showed me time isn't what we think it is. And there are great movies about it in Hollywood. I love the movie Looper, I love the movie Arrival, is you can have the presentation of your future experience knowing the outcome so that you don't choose against it. It actually supports free will if anything.

SPEAKER_00 13:07

So what that sounds like, you were contacted by a soul who's in the in-between space before they're going to incarnate. Does that make sense? Yes. Okay. Now do you have any experience in that area with past lives and the in-between space? Because it sounds like you have connection, you have some kind of contact with those souls that are about to come down here.

SPEAKER_01 13:31

There were three. It was my goddaughter, it was a good friend's future son, and then of course it was the person that I was told is your counterpart. And all three of them have been the future part of it. Yes, to answer your question, I have had past life contact as well. And it just really clear f it it makes it so much more magical, this loop of life and death, and it takes away the fear. I just know too many people who fight the experience of passing on.

SPEAKER_00 14:03

You refer to it as a loop, or as some people would refer to it as a cycle. Birth, life, death, in between space. You said past life contact. Are these lives that are recalled? Was it in past life regression or was it perhaps in the dream state?

SPEAKER_01 14:21

A little of two of those. I at one time to develop my abilities in my twenties, I worked with a woman named Dawn, who's no longer here, who was very skilled at putting you into a lucid state and being able to join you in there and take a look at who are past lives that are with you, who were you in a past life, is there anyone from a past life who is one of your guides for this incarnation of you? And it made a lot of sense because I'd had so much resistance and opposition from my family around becoming a professional artist. They thought that was too risky and uh too whimsical of a choice, but it's brought me great joy, and I've made 10,000 rings for people who are very much in love. But Dawn let me know that in past lives I was in guilds, and that word always meant a lot to me, and so it just kind of confirmed this thing that I had doubt around.

SPEAKER_00 15:22

Okay, so with the past lives, you're able to view them. Is this like a film loop, or can you actually step into that time as if it's a current moment? Is that possible?

SPEAKER_01 15:36

I step into the scenario and I know it's in a certain time because of what I'm seeing and sensing. For example, when I was seeing myself working with glass back in England or France, you know, something medieval, you knew where you were in time. And it was fascinating to realize now I know why this is so natural for me.

SPEAKER_00 15:57

When you're able to step into that time, could you actually interact with other people and things, or are you more of an observer?

SPEAKER_01 16:06

I'm an observer. I'm a little cautious. There's not a lot of experimentation when I'm in different spaces like that to see if there can be an interaction in the past life situations. I'll interact with somebody who has crossed over. That I'm happy to do.

SPEAKER_00 16:23

Sometimes I get the feeling that the dream state, the in-between space, and the afterlife communication are similar things.

SPEAKER_01 16:32

Experience has told me that in the dream state, it is important that it's me as the subject of it. Whatever's coming through is relevant to my understanding, my information, my experience, my awareness. So I appreciate that the dream state supports whatever I'm about to do or not do. As far as contact with past lives, that has been me being the observer to see what someone else is doing that helps me.

SPEAKER_00 17:03

It's like one of your characters almost, isn't it?

SPEAKER_01 17:06

That's a great way of putting it, is to allow that to finish off and not necessarily interrupt it, but just observe and integrate it as far as, huh, I've done this before, and if past lives can roll over, can experiences and talents roll over too? I do believe that.

SPEAKER_00 17:23

I think it's really a fascinating topic because I think many people, if they were able to experience that, would be tempted to at least learn, can I actually experience it as if I'm right there and interact, or is that not even possible? And the other thing is this the dream world and the spirit world, isn't it all part of the same realm?

SPEAKER_01 17:44

That's a great question. I have had people give feedback yes and no. I have heard people say there's a false spirit world, and when you're in dream state or when you're in lucid state, discernment is critical. That would be supported by the experience I had when I was nine with the man in the corner, that I did not have discernment at nine. I just thought everything that was happening was for the good. Where do I stand on it now as a full adult? In the dream world, there's a lot of me driving. I'm requesting certain experiences or information. I'm looking and questing or searching. In the spirit world, sometimes I'm just surrendering to a mystical experience that was going to happen as long as I participated. So it's a subtle difference.

SPEAKER_00 18:31

It's a subtle difference, but not a great difference. That's what it seems like.

SPEAKER_01 18:35

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 18:36

When you put it all together, messages from future souls, past lives, the in-between space, afterlife communication, what are some of the most important things that you've learned?

SPEAKER_01 18:46

The most important thing I've learned, and it still fills me with a lot of humility, sometimes we really do think our life doesn't matter or isn't worth much. If there are forces beyond our five senses that are so committed to keeping us on track or making sure that we're safe or that we have information to stay on the journey, I'd say that the most important lesson is you have no idea how priceless your participation in the physical is, if the non-physical is that committed to you.

SPEAKER_00 19:20

Anything else that we need to know, at least for today?

SPEAKER_01 19:23

I would say that whatever, and this was my personal experience, I had such a hardcore belief based on the physical world that I would never meet anyone. And yet that was an equal and opposite to what the divine had for me, one of the future souls. And I thought, it's taking too long, I'm giving up on this fantasy or this misinformation. Only in the amount of you just can't measure it. It was only in the most potent of all of my surrenders did I meet him. And just like my goddaughter, the height, the eyes, the name, the location, the lifestyle, the career path, and the talent. It is so comforting to have somebody who is a counterpart when most people aren't sharing your experiences.

SPEAKER_00 20:11

Thanks for joining us today, Kendrick. Really cool information. In the meantime, how can our listeners find you online?

SPEAKER_01 20:18

Certainly. The name of my brand is called Know Yourself Well. That is the website, knowyourselfwell.com. I'm on YouTube at KnowYourself Well, and I'm on Instagram at KnowYourselfWell.

SPEAKER_00 20:28

You've been listening to Closer to Venus, I'm Johnny Burke. If you enjoyed today's episode, please consider subscribing. You can find more info on closer to Venus.com. Thanks for tuning in, and we'll see you next time.