#263 Soul Frequency Healing with Rebecca Keating

Shamanic healer Rebecca Keating joins the show to share how a personal crisis in nursing school led her to shamanism, and how that path eventually became Soul Frequency Healer — a modality blending ancient shamanic practice with quantum root-cause healing. She also opens up about a spontaneous, out-of-nowhere past life experience that permanently changed how she understands time and trauma.

In this episode:

• How shamanism and quantum healing intersect in root cause timeline repair
• What it's like to spontaneously relive multiple past lives at once
• Why chronic illness and injury can trace back to trauma from another lifetime

Find Rebecca on Instagram @RebeccaLKeating or at RebeccaKeating.com.

00:00 Meet Rebecca Keating
00:37 Her Shamanic Awakening
02:07 Soul Frequency Healing Explained
03:49 Timeline Repair and Bleedthroughs
06:36 Unseen Realms and Astral Layers
07:28 Quantum Rememory Transmission
10:08 Peru Qero Lineage Roots
12:44 Star Nations and Lake Mysteries
16:37 Shamanism vs Mediumship
19:00 Divine Feminine Resurgence
21:54 Spontaneous Past Life Breakthrough
25:40 New Earth and Systems Crumbling
29:08 DNA Activation and Matrix Escape
31:01 Heart Coherence Closing
32:02 Where to Find Rebecca

Transcript

Johnny Burke 0:01

Welcome to Closer to Venus. I'm Johnny Burke, and today's guest is Rebecca Keating. She is a shamanic healer, author of The Ultimate Guide to Shamanism, and creator of Soul Frequency Healer. She works in the quantum field for her healing and shamanic work, which includes soul frequency healing and root cause timeline repair. In this episode, we'll discuss her path to becoming a shaman as well as a spontaneous past life experience. Rebecca, welcome to the program.

Rebecca Keating 0:30

Thank you. Thank you for having me.

Johnny Burke 0:33

Soul Frequency Healer. I like the sound of that already. So becoming a shaman, what prompted you to take that path?

Rebecca Keating 0:41

So I was in nursing school at the time, and I was in my first year of nursing school, and I was dealing with a lot of my own personal traumas. I was having all kinds of anxiety and just my life was falling apart. And I had this moment where something told me to go to the bookstore. So I drove to the bookstore and I ended up in the self-help section, which I have never been there before, and this book called Eastern Body, Western Mind popped out, and it's a book on energy healing. And as soon as I read that book, my whole life made sense. And from there, I just started on this path of wanting to heal myself, heal my traumas. I lost my two brothers and my father to addiction. That was just really like the catalyst for me to then my next step after energy healing was shamanism. And it's and pretty much my work has been rooted in shamanism ever since for the past 15 years.

Johnny Burke 1:39

It seems that energy healing is an entrance point for many intuitives, whether they become mediums or whatever. Do you find the same thing?

Rebecca Keating 1:48

Oh, definitely. Yeah. And I remember back then it was very woo-woo. Nobody was talking about energy healing. You probably remember that era as well. Whereas now it's very common, it's very accepted and normal, which is really nice.

Johnny Burke 2:02

And I think it's much needed at this juncture.

Rebecca Keating 2:05

Yes.

Johnny Burke 2:05

Soul frequency healing is apparently where ancient traditions meet quantum science. So, how exactly does that work?

Rebecca Keating 2:13

So, soul frequency healer is the modality or the training that I've created based on my life's work in shamanic healing and quantum healing. And it's really about this really deep root cause healing work. And you could call it quantum healing, but it's so deep, and I found like the quantum healing realm is so broad, it could be anything, and really this is about healing the soul on the level of frequency, and a lot of the work that's done within soul frequency has to do with sound, the voice, toning, and also going into the quantum field and being able to go into different timelines and do the healing work that needs to be done for people in different timelines. Because what I've found is that many things, the injuries and illnesses that we have in this life, they pretty much all stem from another lifetime. So we can't just run energy through people and expect healing. We have to actually be able to go into the root of it. What you said about how it meets quantum science, I feel like the shamans to me were the original quantum healers. They work in the unseen, they work with energy, they understand how soul healing works. And so they're the OG quantum healers, I feel.

Johnny Burke 3:28

I was just about to say that they are the OGs. They've only been doing this for about what 40,000 years, if not longer, right? Yeah. As far as we know. So you mentioned timelines. When you have to go to a timeline to basically repair something, is that what you mean by root timeline repair? Or is that something different?

Rebecca Keating 3:47

Yes, that's what I mean by by root timeline repair. So going into going into the quantum field, and a lot of times these timelines will tend to just present themselves. It's not like I have to go looking for them, but the other timelines where it's usually a past life. You could call it a past life or a simultaneous life or a parallel reality where there is a soul piece, a soul fragment there, or there was some kind of traumatic, traumatic situation that happened, a traumatic death or something like that. And you go in and clean that up, repair that so the pattern doesn't continue in this life.

Johnny Burke 4:25

So have you had instances when you work with clients where a parallel life is affecting them now as opposed to a past life or what many people call a concurrent life? It gets a little confusing at times, doesn't it?

Rebecca Keating 4:40

It gets a little confusing, yes. But I have definitely have had that. I call it a bleed through when it's like there's a parallel reality that is bleeding through into this life. And a past life can be doing that as well. They're very similar because there's just so many different realities, it gets so crazy. But yes, I have experienced that before. And so that just needs to be closed out. It just needs to be cleared and closed out, and so it's not bleeding through to the current timeline. And it's oh, it's so common. It's happening all the time.

Johnny Burke 5:14

If people talk about past lives and say they're all happening at once, then there really is no time in that realm, right?

Rebecca Keating 5:23

Yeah, and that's the way I've experienced it completely. So for me, the way I've experienced it so viscerally, and the way I've seen it in the field, but also my own experiences, is that's exactly it. It could be partly coming from the future, could be from the past or something parallel, and it really is there is really no time. So, in that no time, in the unseen realm, in the different layers of reality, it's all happening, and that's why we're able to access it and heal it in the now, right?

Johnny Burke 5:56

It does seem like that.

Rebecca Keating 5:58

Yeah, yeah. I can do my own soul retrievals. I've started to do that for quite a long time now, is my own soul retrievals, just in the present moment, just being really present to energies and knowing that I'm integrating a soul fragment, and it's so powerful, but it's all about presence, it's all about being really present to what's happening, what's going on in the body.

Johnny Burke 6:21

So when you access the unseen, is that the same thing as a spirit world, or or is there an overlap?

Rebecca Keating 6:29

So there there is an overlap, but there's also say like a medium or a psychic, they're usually accessing the astral realm, so they're usually like specifically going into the astral realm, so that could be a little bit different, and it can questionably be a little bit distorted in the astral realm because it's just full of gunk, you could say, and it's full of spirits, it's full of gunk. That's like a lot of mediumshipped stuff, so I'm not particularly going into there, but I'm more going into the layers of the field, the layers of the timelines. It's a little complex, but yes, it's the unseen, and there's a lot, there's a lot of different layers to the unseen realm.

Johnny Burke 7:13

Soul frequency healing and the quantum rememory. Yes, these were not things that you authored, they were actually transmissions. Is that the same thing as a download, or is it a little bit different?

Rebecca Keating 7:24

Some of that is a download, some of that is just my own work, my own body of work, and then quantum rememory was like a download, it was like a transmission. So I went to Lake Titicaca for the second time in 2024. I had this moment with the lake. I went swimming in the lake, I had two crystals. I literally left them in the water with an intention. I offered one to the lake as an offering, and then just me doing my shamanic stuff, making offerings and working with stones. I set an intention with the stone to bring me any wisdom that I was meant to have from the lake and to continue to send that to me. That was my intention, and I left it and I forgot about it. Completely forgot about it. And when I got home, it happened about two weeks in of getting home where I started to receive all these teachings. I started to receive all these teachings with water, with plasma, and just it was about a two-month thing where I would wake up at about four or five a.m. It would be teaching me, it would be teaching me how to work with water and plasma and what to do with it, and this whole spinal cord clearing and activation, and it was really powerful. It was helping me to heal some of the injuries that I had. So that's my quantum rememory. It's really amazing.

Johnny Burke 8:43

So the quantum rememory was a transmission, but the soul frequency healing is, as you said before, an amalgamation of your work, right?

Rebecca Keating 8:53

Yeah. And it includes actually like quantum rememory is inside of that. The soul frequency healer is a training, but it's also if people graduate and they're doing that, then some of them will call themselves a soul frequency healer. So it can be a name of a modality, but the training itself is very robust. It includes like quantum rememory and all the shamanic initiations. Yeah, so it's a whole like seven-month program.

Johnny Burke 9:22

Okay, so it's like getting a doctorate in energy healing and something.

Rebecca Keating 9:24

You become a soul frequency healer.

Johnny Burke 9:27

But that is a gradient, albeit an elevated one, of energy healing, or does it include other modalities also?

Rebecca Keating 9:35

Yeah, the the basis is you could say energy healing, quantum healing is what's being taught in there. There goes into a lot of different things that's very robust. And I would say it's within the realm of energy healing, but it's advanced energy healing. Yeah.

Johnny Burke 9:50

Sounds like it. Okay, so when you went to Lake Titicaca, how far into your shamanic path? Was that the beginning, or were you already well into it?

Rebecca Keating 10:00

So I was already well into my path, my shamanic path. I've gone to Peru three times and I was already a shamanic practitioner the first time I went. But then I ended up starting to study the Andean medicine wheel, and I ended up going to Peru twice and study with the Cuero shamans. So it was like after a lot of shamanic work and training that I had already been doing, but I really love the Cuero teachings and the work that they do. The lineage is my favorite. So I would say the core that I work with now.

Johnny Burke 10:36

Or the Peruvians, I know there's different regions, but were they pretty much the OGs or not necessarily?

Rebecca Keating 10:42

I believe that the word shaman originates in Siberia, but what I've discovered is that whether it's Australia, North America, like then the Native American Indians, whether it's Celtic or Quero Shaman, like they all have the universal practices that are very, very similar. It blew my mind because I just went to Ireland recently and got more into the Celtic shamanism, and I was thinking this is basically the same thing as the Chuiro-shamanism, except for maybe they have their directions, they have their elements, they work with the seasons, it's all very similar. A few things might be moved around, but it's all universal, and so I always found that really fascinating. What I feel is that they all really stemmed from Lemuria, and because they all stemmed from Lemurian teachings, and then they went into the Atlantean teachings, and then you could say that the Inca and even the pre-Incas, they were working with the remnants of those Atlantean teachings.

Johnny Burke 11:47

And the Mayans.

Rebecca Keating 11:48

Yeah, and the Mayans, and it was passed on to the Cuero. And the reason why the Cuero is one of those lineages that their teachings are so intact, their traditions are so intact, is because they were high up in the Andes Mountains. And so when the Spanish came in, they were hiding up at high altitude, and so did the Uros people of Lake Titicaca, they built reeds, they moved their communities to living on reeds on the water, which they still do. So those indigenous peoples were able to hold a lot of their teachings and really retain a lot of it, which is pretty incredible.

Johnny Burke 12:22

Recently I uh interviewed a gentleman called John Paul Eaglehart.

Rebecca Keating 12:26

Okay.

Johnny Burke 12:27

And he was telling me about sight whispering, and he would contact spirits going back, he has no idea what the timeline was, but in one of the cases the spirit said, Oh, you're a spirit from the future. And I thought, I've never heard that before. Those spirits looked at him as we would look at a ghost. So does the Quero tradition have practices like that or similar practices?

Rebecca Keating 12:55

So, in terms of people from the future, not that I'm aware of, but they definitely look at the ancestors and they also always have known that they're a star nation, so that they come from the stars, the Palladians, the Sirius. It's always been part of their tradition that they literally worked with the stars, came from the stars, like many indigenous cultures. The other really interesting thing was when I was at Uros in Lake Titicaca, we were staying with a very traditional small family on the reeds, and these people were out of this world, like otherworldly, they were not from this world, they're not Peruvian, they are not Bolivian, they're Uros, and they were just so unique. And we did this special ceremony. A friend of mine, we made a despacho, which is an offering to the lake, it's a cuero tradition. And we said to the owner, we said, Could we please make this? Would it be respectful? We wanted to be respectful, and he said, Of course. He said, This is we've never had any foreigners come here and want to do this. This is our tradition, and he said, and it's really unique because he said, Normally, we always do this on a new moon, and it literally happened to be on a new moon that we were accidentally doing it, not accidentally, but we were doing it. So he took us out to the special place in the water to offer the despacho that we made to the water, and they were actually the water level is going down there, so we wanted to do that for the water. And he spent a couple of hours with us and he told us some of the craziest stories I've ever heard. And I said to him, I said to him at one point, I said, I literally see pyramids everywhere here, they are literally everywhere. You think it's a mountain, but if you have eyes to see, you can tell it's a pyramid. And he was like, definitely, pyramids are all over, and they're also under the water. The lake is full of pyramids under the lake, and he said also that his people they originally came out of the lake, like that it's been passed down from their generations, they were living in the same place where their original ancestors came, like their lineage is intact, and they've always known that they originally came out of the lake.

Johnny Burke 15:08

Wow, that's pretty crazy. But forty, fifty thousand years ago or more, who really knows, right? But the occurrence of pyramids is everywhere, and these are cultures that had no contact with each other. And isn't that tied into the star people, the star nations? As the Lemurians were.

Rebecca Keating 15:27

Yes. Yeah.

Johnny Burke 15:28

I've been told that the Lemurians basically coexisted with Star People at one point. Yeah. And maybe they did in Atlantis too, but it originated in Lemuria. There's these threads that tie together the star people, the indigenous cultures, the stories, and the pyramids. So when someone says there's pyramids in the water, who knows what's in the ocean?

Rebecca Keating 15:51

Exactly. Yeah, yeah. It's unfortunate that our true history is not we it's for us too. Yeah, it's coming though. Yeah.

Johnny Burke 16:00

It's most likely at some point going to be rewritten by the intuitives and that lot, because what's written in the history books is a version. Maybe it's a sanitized version, but it's not the real thing. But I digress. One thing I did want to ask about the differences between shamanism and mediumship. I know shamanism is older, but is there also an intersection there like an overlap or not really?

Rebecca Keating 16:27

There's definitely an overlap. I don't consider myself a medium, but I actually do sometimes have deceased people come into my sessions. I'll just give you this kind of a cool example. I had this deceased grandmother show up in a client session. I don't know anything about my clients when I work with them. And she showed me a baby, and she was showing me that the baby was passed away, this great grandmother. And I said, Do you have a great-grandmother that had a baby that passed away? And she said, Yeah, my great-grandmother lost her baby at three months old. And this client suffered from autoimmune disorders, and so it was the grief, and it was all to do with her lungs, it was all to do with grief. So the grandmother showed up to show me that this was the cause of the generational grief because the mother had the same issues. So I worked with both of them to clear up all of their health issues. That to me is mediumship, but I'm not a medium, I don't call myself a medium.

Johnny Burke 17:27

You have the same ability though.

Rebecca Keating 17:28

I have the same ability, yes. I know people well that are mediums, and they're talking to spirits all the time, they've trained themselves, or they just have the natural ability to just be constantly talking to deceased people. Whereas I don't. The other thing that I know about mediums compared to shamans is that mediums don't really overlap in the shamanic world. They don't do healing, they actually don't have a lot of skill set in protection. Now, I'm not saying that's all mediums, but a lot of mediums that I know, they're really good at talking to spirits, but they don't have the whole shamanic realm where they they know how to discern, they know how to protect, they know how to clear and all those things.

Johnny Burke 18:15

One can get into some trouble without good protection measures.

Rebecca Keating 18:19

Yeah.

Johnny Burke 18:20

And you're right, because I think there's a lot of people that are mediums, but I'm not sure that all of them have the skills. I know it exists, I know it works, but yeah, it's a very good point. I knew that there were two ways that we can actually contact with those that have passed on. So back to shamanism. How is shamanism connected to the divine feminine? We hear a lot about that these days.

Rebecca Keating 18:45

The last time I went to Peru, but the time before that, the retreat that we were doing was all about the unity between the masculine and the feminine. So that was really beautiful, that that was like this this union. So they were recognizing both masculine and feminine. But I would say that the the divine feminine is connected to the healing aspect of shamanism and also the energies of the feminine in general, the receptivity, and also the divine feminine rising. It's interesting because in the past I feel like they have seen shamans as a male figure, but I feel that the original shamans were actually women.

Johnny Burke 19:28

But you surprised me.

Rebecca Keating 19:30

Yeah. And there is this whole divine feminine resurgence right now coming back. And a lot of the divine feminine has been either distorted or maybe pushed down in a lot of ways. I I also feel that is connected to the witches and the witch trials and the suppression of medicine women, women who worked with herbs or energy or healing, and so the divine feminine has been suppressed in a lot of ways.

Johnny Burke 20:01

For thousands of years.

Rebecca Keating 20:03

Yeah.

Johnny Burke 20:03

It sounds like. And what we're hearing about with the resurgence of the divine feminine is, I believe, is to correct an imbalance. Is that true?

Rebecca Keating 20:13

Yeah, exactly, because the the patriarchy has been the it's been m a lot more masculine dominated, obviously. The world leaders and just the way the world is run in general has been way more masculine and not necessarily a healthy masculine because we're sorry.

Johnny Burke 20:35

No, no, don't be. You're right.

Rebecca Keating 20:37

It's so interesting too because the divine feminine and the matriarchs in a lot of other cultures, especially like even in Ireland, when we were there, they were talking about how at a certain point they were going through this whole history thing that we were doing on these beautiful lands, and the matriarchs at one time were the the ones in charge. They were the ones in charge. I'm like, can you repeat that? And I got it on video because I was like, the women were in charge of politics making the decisions. We're the intuitive, we're the ones who have a very strong intuition, and so I feel like you need the masculine and the feminine, but the divine feminine and the matriarchs have just been so suppressed.

Johnny Burke 21:19

The majority of people that come onto the show are women. What does that tell you? You also had a spontaneous past life experience. So I'm wondering if that was the first time, and if so, does that have anything to do with the path you're on now or what's happening, i.e., the new age that's coming?

Rebecca Keating 21:39

So when I had the spontaneous past life experience, it was literally out of nowhere. And it was during the day, and I was just in a normal space, like in a normal room, like I am right now, and reality literally dissolved. The walls, the table, everything that was physical was gone, and I was basically in this fog. I was in this mist. And it was interesting because at the time, it never happened before, but I was aware of what was happening. I wasn't afraid, and I knew that I had somehow pierced the veil of reality. In that reality, this is where truly there's no time. And then all of a sudden, I don't know where this bell was coming from to this day, but a bell would go off. It was like a chime, and I would just life after life. I experienced so many of my lifetimes. Some of them stuck out more than others, but what happened was I was so blown open from that happening. All my gifts, my Claire Audience, Claire Sentience, all the Claire's, all the gifts were like blown wide open for a couple of months. And the one thing that was really prevalent, even though I was maybe a little bit on the crazy side, was everything was love. Everything was love. A piece of paper would make me cry, and I was just like, all the experiences, everything is love. But all my timelines were open during that time. So it was just like I could see why maybe people would have put me in the hospital for schizophrenia at that time because it was like too much data coming in all at once. It changed me forever. It changed the way I understand time, the way I understand timelines and other lifetimes. It's one thing to know it in your mind, but it's another thing to fully experience it because that changes you forever, you know.

Johnny Burke 23:31

It sounds really intense and reminds me of like a near-death experience because one of the effects of that, apparently, is that your gifts, as you say, your abilities, they really just rise to you know higher levels. They're boosted, right?

Rebecca Keating 23:48

Yeah.

Johnny Burke 23:48

Okay.

Rebecca Keating 23:49

I call it the near-death experience without the death because I don't know, I didn't know what else to call it.

Johnny Burke 23:54

That's the feeling I got from it. Yeah. Do you think that happened for a particular reason, or is it a byproduct of what's happening all over the planet now?

Rebecca Keating 24:02

This was almost 20 years ago that this happened to me. I only started talking about it like maybe three years ago. I started saying it to small groups, and now I'm saying it on podcasts, but I didn't talk about it with anybody for years because I'm like, nobody's gonna understand. Except for the close people to me, but I didn't speak about it. I don't know why that happened to me. Still to this day, I wanted it to happen again. It never happened again. But maybe I was just meant to at that time be activated in some way, and I also think that in connection to the time we're in now, I think that more people are going to have those experiences because we are definitely tapping into our multidimensionality, which is what I did in that moment. And it's gonna happen to people. People are starting to tap in and feel other aspects of themselves and their other lifetimes and stuff. People are gonna be like popping off. Oh, there goes another one. They're not crazy.

Johnny Burke 25:03

It's not the first time I've heard that because a lot of people are talking about new earth, ascension, moving into the Aquarian age, and so on, and also at the same time talking about systems that are breaking down. Yeah. Now, has your work, especially with the shamanism, has that given you insight into what we can actually expect?

Rebecca Keating 25:25

I believe I've been saying this for quite a long time. I do believe that all of these systems are crumbling, and in our lifetime, we're in it right now. We're in the thick of that happening. I've spoken about religion because I feel strongly that anything that's coming from control or serving the the powers that anything that is service to self, anything that is false light, I feel like all of these things are gonna be exposed or are being exposed. And people are starting to discern, and it's only gonna get stronger with our consciousness. The more we expand in our consciousness, the more we just can see what's true and what's not true. And so it's just going to be this huge shift. I feel a big shift coming. I feel like it's like something really big is gonna happen this year.

Johnny Burke 26:16

This year.

Rebecca Keating 26:18

I do. I feel like something really big is gonna happen this year, but probably it next year too. The shift in consciousness is so strong right now that it's only gonna get stronger. And so I don't really know if it's gonna be like one particular or event or if we're just going to look back and go, what happened?

Johnny Burke 26:38

I think it's interesting that religion is just one of the old systems breaking down, and also at the same time, shamanism and the divine feminine is surging, right? What's even more interesting to me is that the church was the entity that suppressed the divine feminine and our shamanic and mystic past for what two thousand years.

Rebecca Keating 27:02

Yes.

Johnny Burke 27:03

Getting their just desserts, or you tell me what Yeah, and I you know what I'm getting at, right?

Rebecca Keating 27:08

I do, and I feel very strongly about this because I think it's uh it's almost comical in a way. It is when you see it all and you go, look at all the stuff they said is demonic. They're trying to tell people that they can't access their intuition, that if they have a vision, that's demonic, or if they're tapping into their gifts or their psychic abilities, that is evil. And they've programmed people to think that this is something wrong with us when to me they're not even gifts or abilities, they are our human nature. We are meant to be telepathic, we are meant to be psychic, we are meant to do energy, like not even as a special thing, as a birthright that we have, and we've just been lied to. Because if you think about if they would have put us into school from birth and taught us how to actually access these abilities and taught us about energy, we would be completely different humans at this stage. But instead, they did the reverse, told us that this was evil and just think everything is linear, everything is two-dimensional, and now it's like it's coming up, they can't stop it. It's activating through our DNA as well. And so as our DNA is activating, our frequency is going up, our consciousness is expanding, but just becomes so humorous because you're just going like they actually tried to stop us from accessing this.

Johnny Burke 28:30

Yeah, they did. And I think what you just mentioned, actually a few things, but DNA activation is my last question, at least for today. Does that have anything to do from getting free of the matrix?

Rebecca Keating 28:43

I would say it definitely has something to do with getting free of the matrix and getting beyond the the 3D, and also if you think about even if people had one more percent of their DNA activated, it would be a whole new realm, right? And the thing about our DNA is that it takes instruction and it is literally like an antenna. So when people are filling their antenna with whatever they're doing, whatever they're thinking, whatever their emotions are, whatever they're interacting with constantly on a day-to-day is what they're giving their antenna.

Johnny Burke 29:20

So as soon as people start changing that, like even talking to their DNA, commanding it that it is expressing its highest expression that it is turning on, it takes instructions, so it will start to to shift their DNA, and then this is why they're bombarding us with and it sounds like if we were able to activate the dormant strands, as it were, then we would be superhuman.

Rebecca Keating 29:46

Yeah, we would be superhuman, and we are superhuman, and that's why it's like no matter what they want to do with the chemtrails and the fires and the 5Gs and the it data centers and all this, like whatever they're trying to do, in the end, I don't feel they really stand a chance because it's gonna happen, and once it does, it's game over kind of situation. But they're doing everything possible, that's for sure.

Johnny Burke 30:13

It seems like it's a battle for the sun. It really is. It's very crazy, but I'll leave everyone with this. I've been told that the rising frequency of love eventually is going to reach a point where that influence will not be able to sustain itself, and then we can finally break free. That sound about right?

Rebecca Keating 30:35

Yeah, I the core of my work for many years has all been about the heart and coming into heart coherence because when we are in a coherent state and our heart is coherent, then we generate this field around us that is touching everything, that is impacting the environment and our DNA as well. If there's one thing for people to do, it is literally to come into the heart. And it is hard because there's a lot that pulls us into these other sort of drama dynamics and things, but always trying to remain with that open heart because I fully agree that it is all about love.

Johnny Burke 31:13

The struggle is there, but love hopefully wins, I think. Yeah, that's what I've been told anyway. Okay, all right, Rebecca. Great stuff tonight. Thanks for joining us. In the meantime, how can our listeners find you online?

Rebecca Keating 31:25

So, my Instagram is Rebecca L Keating, and my website is Rebecca Keating.com. So that's the best place to find me.

Johnny Burke 31:35

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