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The Concierge Doc Podcast with Dr. Jason Littleton, M.D.
Faith, Healing & Medicine: Dr. James Pierce on Miracles, Mindset & Medical Breakthroughs
Dr. Jason Littleton welcomes his pastor and mentor Dr. James Pierce to explore the powerful intersection between faith and medicine in healthcare. Together they examine how spiritual conviction and clinical practice can work together rather than in opposition, offering hope and practical guidance for both patients and medical professionals.
• Faith and medicine are intertwined, with the Bible addressing the "whole man" including physical health
• Christians in healthcare should integrate their faith through moral guidelines while maintaining professional excellence
• Prayer connects to healing through trust in God's promises when medical options reach their limits
• Taking medication while believing in divine healing represents balanced faith, not contradiction
• Faith works by aligning your words with corresponding actions
• Christians in medicine should prioritize their relationship with God through daily devotion despite busy schedules
• Burnout can be addressed by "casting cares" on God rather than carrying every burden
• Terminal diagnoses aren't necessarily final – faith provides hope beyond conventional medical limitations
• Thinking outside traditional medical paradigms can open doors to unexpected healing possibilities
• Both supernatural intervention and medical science have their place in a balanced approach to healing
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Dr Jason Littleton :Access to the information and materials contained in this podcast is at your own risk. The information contained is presented for the purpose of educating the consumer on a variety of wellness and healthcare topics. The information Nothing contained is intended to be instructional for medical diagnosis or treatment. The information contained is compiled from a variety of sources. The information should not be considered complete and exhaustive and should not be in place of a visit or consultation with your own primary care doctor. Welcome to the Concierge Doc Podcast. I'm your host, ceo and founder of Littleton Concierge Medicine, dr Jason Littleton. Welcome to the podcast Now.
Dr Jason Littleton :Today I have a very, very special guest. You know he is my pastor and mentor, someone who holds multiple PhDs and has been doing ministry for over 30 years, leading several large congregations in Michigan and Florida. In over three decades he's been known to build ministries from zero to over 3,500 members. He's received the key to the city of Lansing, michigan. He's been honored and recognized by mayors and presidents, leading President Bush in prayer and attending the inaugural prayer breakfast for President Obama. He now pastors Dream Life Center Church in Orlando, florida. He's a best-selling author and a faith leader. His unique style of teaching using the Bible to show everyday people how to have extraordinary lives in the word of faith. Please welcome to the Concierge Doc podcast Dr James Pierce.
Dr James Pierce:Hello, hello, well, glad to be here. It's been a long time. We've been talking about this for a while.
Dr Jason Littleton :We've been talking about this for a while.
Dr James Pierce:So I'm glad to be here. Thank you for inviting me.
Dr Jason Littleton :Thank you for being on. This is a very special interview for me because you know, you have been just the secret to me becoming a doctor. I mean, I'm a doctor today because of your mentorship of my life and I wouldn't have made it without you. I mean, you are everything to me. It's an honor to have you on.
Dr James Pierce:Well, I'm glad you give me more credit than I deserve. You had to do a lot all the work, so I just gave you some advice.
Dr Jason Littleton :I appreciate it and prayer and I mean you walked me through it.
Dr James Pierce:I mean without question, without question but you put in the work and you put in the time, so I want to give you credit for that.
Dr Jason Littleton :Well, I just want to honor you. I'm so grateful for you and you know I'm really excited to have you on, because I think when we talk about faith and medicine, a lot of people have questions. And everyone knows, if you're listening to this podcast, I'm a Christian. Jesus is my risen Lord and Savior, and this is my pastor, who has taught me in the Word of God and being a doctor, there are times where patients can be at a dead end a dead end of medicine and they don't know what to do. And I want to ask my guest here, dr Pierce, what do you do when you're at those crossroads? And I think that's a very important question. And so what I want to start out with is Dr Pierce, what do you do when you're at those crossroads? And I think that's a very important question. And so what I want to start out with is, first of all, does medicine and faith? Is there a connection there?
Dr James Pierce:Yeah, I think faith can be connected to virtually anything you do as it pertains to that. Plus, the Bible talks about the whole man, and so health is important to God, and so it has a lot of suggestions as to what to do when you have health problems. So faith is important because it deals with the inner man. It deals with what you really truly believe, and it makes a difference how much faith you have in something If you believe in yourself, and believing in a God, a higher power, is vitally important to really your faith and what you believe you can do. Of course, as Christians, we believe in the God of the Bible, and so that gives us a guideline for how our parameters for our faith and what we can do. But faith and medicine I believe they're intertwined. I think before we had modern medicine, you always had to deal with faith or natural remedies at the time. So I see a very great correlation between faith and many things you know, many things you can do.
Dr Jason Littleton :Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know what advice would you give to doctors who want to integrate their Christian faith into their practice, but they feel unsure how to do that?
Dr James Pierce:Well, your Christian faith has to do with your moral stand. I mean, as a Christian, you should always guide your life by your Christian morals and what the Word of God really has to say, so you integrate it into everything you do, because you're never not a Christian, you're always a Christian, whether you're in a profession or not. And so integrating it into your life is really just making Christianity and what the Word says a part of your lifestyle. And Christianity deals with your moral parameters, your morals, what you believe, what you think, how you should think insight from God.
Dr James Pierce:And so, as a doctor, when you're in a high-intensity type of occupation, having God at the center of your life is very vitally important of your life is very vitally important, especially when you reach the end of yourself. What you can do, then you try to rely on your faith in God to do that which you cannot do, and that's where faith really comes in. What you can do, you do, but what you can't, you have to rely on something greater than yourself. And I think, as a doctor, you need to learn how to do that, compartmentalize those things so that you don't stress your own self out over the challenges in life, especially when you're in a profession where you're dealing with life and death, health and those things where you can have tragic outcomes as well as good outcomes. You have to learn how to have a balance in that area, and I think faith helps you to do that.
Dr Jason Littleton :Yeah, that's good. That's good. What would you say is the connection between prayer and healing that you've seen in your own life, or with patients, or with those who are severely ill, or with those who are severely?
Dr James Pierce:ill. Well, prayer is always a matter of how much you trust God, and our guidelines for prayer is always based on what the principles in the Word of God. So prayer and healing is based on what you believe about God's promises. Now, I believe that there are promises in the word of God that can help you in areas of your health. The Bible talks about and James talked about if there's any sick among you, call for the elders of the church, let them pray for you, anointing them with oil. So prayer and healing are connected. Mark talked about laying hands on the sick so they would recover. So we have a healing element in prayer, and I think prayer is always for what you can't do, because if you can, you don't need to pray about it.
Dr James Pierce:But if you can't do something, you need to rely on something outside of you. That means that's where faith comes in. You got to have something you believe in outside of that. Even people who say they don't believe in anything eventually find themselves at their wit's end of who they are and what they can do. And when you come to the edge of that and to the end of that, then faith comes in as a very important part of what your life should be about. When you base your life around that, you have a better balance on how to handle things in life.
Dr Jason Littleton :That's very insightful. I love that. I get this question a lot and I want to ask you how do people use their faith while taking medicine? Sometimes people feel like they're not in faith if they have to take medicine and they get confused. Sometimes people are not sure how to walk in faith, take medicine and articulate themselves as they're in the process of healing.
Dr James Pierce:Okay, well, that's a popular question but it has several different perspectives. In other words, if you believe in faith making a difference into your health, it means something. Secondly, it's what you have faith in. Some people have faith in the medicine itself and so if you have faith in that medicine, you know in your profession the placebo effect can really change things. We know that psychological and mental ascent has a lot to do with how you feel. You know you can feel bad when you get bad news, but you can feel good when you get good news. So faith, if you got faith in the medicine, then that's what you're going to rely on. If you have faith in God and you believe God heals today and he's interested in your current circumstance, then you believe in that.
Dr James Pierce:But I think you can combine them both. I think I mean I take medicine and I believe God for healing both at the same time. So if I got a headache, to resolve that immediate problem I'll take an aspirin or a painkiller, while at the same time I'm trusting that my body will be made whole in the process. So there's a balance to both of them. I think you can do both at the same time. If you're going into surgery. You can pray that the surgery goes successful. Prayer goes into that that the doctor's hands are guided properly, that the procedure will come out successfully. That's where prayer comes in. Prayer always comes in where you're at your end of what you can do and that's where God comes in. And God says he'll look out for us.
Dr James Pierce:He said he would never leave us or forsake us. So all of those things is based on where you are in your trust in God and what he has said concerning you. So I think it's a matter of personal revelation in terms of what you believe about God and what he'll do for you. Some people don't believe that God does miracles or anything.
Dr James Pierce:Today, so they'll never have that happen, intentionally or purposefully. But for those who do, you combine the two, I think it just helps you. It helps you if you got both. That's the way I see it, and so it's a difficult question to answer, but it depends on where a person is. I know as a doctor you probably run into that all the time whether you can, what you can tell your patients based on really where they're at mentally and emotionally. So those are. You always weigh it like that, but I think that you can use faith and medicine at the same time.
Dr Jason Littleton :That's good. That's good when people I know that words are powerful and I know that you know people can be notorious for going around saying that they're sick, they're sick, they're sick, at the same time they're trying to believe God. But that just seems kind of discordant. It seems like it's not helpful to keep going around saying that you're sick, you're sick, at the same time saying you're believing God. And I know you've come across people who do that. What do you tell people like that to fix them and kind of get them on track?
Dr James Pierce:Well, most of the time I'm understanding because I know maybe they don't understand how faith really works. So we do a lot of things that contradict what we say we believe. You know, some people say I know I'm going to be a millionaire, but they're doing everything to contradict the fact that their actions don't speak like their words speak. Faith kind of aligns your words with your action. Yeah, yeah.
Dr James Pierce:I think it was James who said faith without works is dead. Faith without corresponding action is dead. So faith works with your actions. If your mouth, what you're saying out of your mouth, lines up with the actions you do, then you'll probably have the desired outcome.
Dr Jason Littleton :That's good.
Dr James Pierce:So faith in medicine is a big thing. I think when we talk about medicine and faith and different things like that, that's a matter of your personal philosophy about life and healing and health. Some people believe totally in science. Yeah. I believe in both science and I think science has limits. Yeah. But God doesn't.
Dr Jason Littleton :That's good, that's good.
Dr James Pierce:Science is based on how much knowledge and stuff we've acquired and learned how to work with, but we believe that we serve a limitless God.
Dr Jason Littleton :Yes, yes, we do, yes, we do. That's powerful. That's powerful, you know. One of the things I want to ask you is you know you've mentored and pastored many. What should a Christian doctor remember most in today's medical world?
Dr James Pierce:I think they should remember their connection to God. I think when you're a Christian, it's not just a decision you make, it's really a commitment you make to a God who saved you, saved your soul. And so we all have different occupations, we have other things that we do. If you're a football player, still your morals have to be governed by what you believe in terms of your faith. So, no matter what you're doing, whether you're a plumber, a doctor, a psychologist, an athlete, your faith has to be the guidelines for your moral acts, your moral acts. So, and you know, different faiths have different things, but in the Christian faith, you know your commitment to God, your commitment to truth and the word of God is important. You have to always keep that. So your integrity is important, your moral integrity. As believers, we believe we answer to a higher power, we answer to God himself, and whether we do his word or not, that's what we're going to be judged on. So no, I think if you're a doctor, no matter how busy you are, you got to have a time where you take time for devotion, keeping Him at the center of your life.
Dr James Pierce:I think you should have a church that you go to, people that speak into your life. I think church is important. Daily Bible reading or listening is important to keep you centered on Him and know and prayer. You know having a daily prayer regimen it's important to your faith. Yeah, god is not just a servant. You know he's there for you but he wants to have a relationship with you and so you have to cultivate that relationship through daily devotion and different things like that. And when you're busy that can be difficult. So you have to take out the time to make that happen, you know, and put it into your schedule like you put in anything else. You got to schedule some time with God because you're going to come to God moments, situations where I don't know what to do, and you know your relationship with God is going to mean a lot and what you know about him is going to mean a lot as well.
Dr Jason Littleton :That's powerful. That's powerful. I got to ask this question because I want to make sure that people understand. I know that the word heals, but how does it heal?
Dr James Pierce:How does it heal the word?
Dr Jason Littleton :of God. Well, it's by the word of God.
Dr James Pierce:Well, it's by the power of God. When you say the word heals, it's really your faith in his word. It activates his power to heal your body. So when we talk about faith and healing, you have to first of all, you need to know the word on that, like what is, what are the promises of God concerning your health and your healing? There are a lot of things in the Bible that talk about that, even things that you eat, all of those types of things.
Dr James Pierce:But in scripture it tells us that when people were sick, when the doctors could do nothing, jesus came along and he helped and healed people. So it was their faith, he said. It was their faith that made them whole. It was their faith and what they believed about God that made them whole. So it's really what you believe about what God will do for you. Healing is not automatic, just like salvation is not automatic. You play a part in it, and so your part is to believe what God has said, and when you do that, that's when you activate your faith and that's when the power of God comes from that word. That's good.
Dr James Pierce:So God backs his own word. He's required to do that and he does that because he's a spirit. There's some we don't always understand how he's going to do that. He could do that through surgery, he could do that through some type of medicine, or he could just touch you miraculously and heal the person. That's what I believe. That's good, and the bible is clear on some of those things that's good.
Dr Jason Littleton :Yeah, I believe that too. That's good. What does it look like to lead with both clinical excellence and spiritual conviction for a doctor?
Dr James Pierce:To lead with spiritual excellence, and To lead with both clinical excellence and spiritual conviction. Oh well, I think it's very important that if you profess to be a Christian, you should lead with excellence. God is a God of excellence and I think it's good for your testimony to other people that you walk with to a degree of excellence, In other words, the best you can possibly do under the circumstances. You have A lot of times. I was watching a reel the other day about a gentleman. He was talking about how a lot of people believe that people that have faith are kind of airheaded.
Dr James Pierce:They're kind of like oh, you're a believer, you know, and I think it's incumbent upon us as believers to be practically wise as well. So excellence is another way that we show that you know that we are people of our word, that we have moral guidelines and that we follow those guidelines, so that we're not a bad testimony as a representation of God and what our faith is.
Dr Jason Littleton :That's good. That's good For those in medicine who feel burnt out or disconnected from their purpose. What would you say to reignite their faith?
Dr James Pierce:Well, being burnt out has a lot to do with feeling overwhelmed. You have so many things going on at one time, and I know as a physician it's a high-pressure occupation, and so that's where faith really comes in. When you work under a high pressure circumstance. The Bible says cast all your cares and worries on him, for he cares for you. In other words, you have to eventually learn how to lift the burden off of yourself. You do what you can do, but what you can't do, you can't carry that burden. Jesus said take my yoke upon me, learn of me, for my yoke is easy and my burden is light and so he tells you take your cares and give it to him.
Dr James Pierce:When you don't do that, then you carry everything and you're carrying it mentally and emotionally and sometimes you just have to let those things go. And that's a difficult thing when you feel like I have to produce or I have to succeed at something. But, like I said, every human being comes to a place where they come to their own personal end and then they have to rely on something else. If they're relying on themselves, then they're limited. But there's a time where you have to just say I just put this on God. God, you're all I can rely on right now. And there are times you can just be overwhelmed with not just a bunch of heavy things, just small things.
Dr James Pierce:Usually, burnout comes from a lot of small things I have to do, and so you have to learn how to prioritize your life. And you got to learn how to say no. And then you got to get yourself back centered on God himself. When you're feeling burnt out out, and there's some times where you have to really grind and whatever you're doing, but you still have to have a time where you know how to take a time out and say, okay, let me put this on God and let me stop carrying everything myself. And that's like mental ascent. I have to make sure, okay, I'm not going. It's like you say I don't care what they think, or I don't care what they say. That's casting a care. You're saying I don't want it, I'm not going to carry that any longer. And that's something you have to practice in life. In my profession as a pastor, people come to me with all type of problems, every kind of problem you can imagine. It's like you know we're kind of spiritual healers. Yeah.
Dr James Pierce:And you guys are natural healers, but people come to you with all sorts of just circumstances, situations, emotions, emergencies, yeah, things that small, big deaths, all of that that happens in the day of the life of a pastor as well, and I have to learn how to compartmentalize that. Hey, okay, I can pray for you, and once I prayed, I have to trust that my prayer is sufficient.
Dr Jason Littleton :Yeah, that's good.
Dr James Pierce:You know. So people come to me about something. I can't heal you, but God can. I can, but I can pray for you. Yeah.
Dr James Pierce:And then once I do that, I leave it there and I rely on that. It's kind of like you might rely on a procedure. You have to treat a person, yeah, and once you've done it, that's it. You got somebody that got their hand cut open. You put the stitches in, you're pretty much done. You put the bandage on, give them maybe some antibiotics and you go. You have to rely on this. Faith is in everything. You have to trust in the process. Yeah.
Dr James Pierce:And when you feel burned out and you feel down and out, you have to learn how to cast your worries away. Yeah, because you're carrying too much, and that's not always easy, but you have to train yourself to do that and that's where your faith comes in. I'm relying on you, lord. I'm relying on God to get me through this.
Dr Jason Littleton :I mean there is a lot in that that's powerful. I mean I'm so glad that you answered that. I know that's gonna help a lot of people. Last question that I have that I'm wondering is what do you say to someone who's got terminal cancer, stage four cancer, whatever it is? What does that person do in that situation? You know the doctors have relegated them to hospice care. What? What do they do in that situation?
Dr James Pierce:Well, um, again, that's where faith comes in. Uh, you know, terminal means there's an end to it. Now, all of us are on terminal time. Eventually our time is going to go. But we've faced a lot of cases like this, where people have faced stage four and I've seen a lot of people heal. The doctor said they're not going to make it and they're alive today. I think in medicine, I think everybody's a student of their own programming. I think modern medicine has a certain doctrine and a certain philosophy. Yeah.
Dr James Pierce:For example, you know um a lot of times we rely on experts, but we don't ask what their expert at. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Dr James Pierce:You know, uh, it's kind of like you can go to a mechanic, you can have five certified mechanics and all of them might fix your car a different way. It might be $5,000 for this guy. 500 for another guy, they're all certified, so it's all about that and that's where God comes in, that's where when the things you don't know, god knows. And so when people are facing like a terminal illness, because I believe God is a healer, I say, hey, be positive about it terminal illness.
Dr James Pierce:because I believe God is a healer, I say hey, be positive about it.
Dr Jason Littleton :It's not the end because they said it.
Dr James Pierce:They've come to the end of what they know, and so when you don't have nothing else, who do you turn to? That's where your faith comes in. I believe in God. Now. I've seen many people healed of terminal cancer, many through medicine, through changes in diet, through miraculous healing, supernatural healing I've seen it. I've seen people that had weeks. A matter of two or three weeks they would be gone and they're alive today and they're totally healed. I just think in medicine and when it comes to health and healing, we're still searching for answers. A lot of times when people are here to see word, they think it's the end. Yeah.
Dr James Pierce:And that's where I think the two different philosophies for medicine are different. I think in traditional medicine, when you go to the hospital or you go to an emergency, there's a different philosophy from maybe a naturopathic doctor or a holistic person.
Dr James Pierce:I think they've got two different philosophies. One is concerned about the origin of the illness, one is concerned about the immediate symptoms. They're just treating the symptoms, yeah, so most of the times. So you have this difference on both sides, but I think when you combine them both you have probably the best health care you can have. I've talked to you can have.
Dr James Pierce:Yeah, I've talked to you about that many times. Many times I've seen people that come to me. They'll be like hey, the doctor said I only got so many weeks to live. I said, well, that's the doctor. Yeah. I mean, there are people who believe you can live. Yeah. And do you believe that? I mean there's a lot of people that have cures for certain types of cancers, if they can catch it at that time. So you got to remember medical medicine is based on a science that they know of. That's good.
Dr James Pierce:You know what I'm saying. I mean, we watch these rockets that Elon Space X does.
Dr James Pierce:We never thought we could see a rocket come back and go back into its launch pad, but they're doing it. They're doing it, you know. So the end is not always what somebody says. How many times have people told people they couldn't make it and they make it? And so I just think you have to be positive when you have a terminal prognosis of something or somebody's telling you this is the end. I think if you're still living, there's a chance, and I always hold on to that.
Dr James Pierce:But as believers, we have this hope that even if we don't make it, we made it. We made it Because we got eternal life in Christ Jesus, absolutely. But while we're here, we try to stay here as long as we can and do the things we need to do to stay here as long as we possibly can. So all of it's based on the philosophy, I think, when we start, first of all, there was holistic medicine and natural medicine before there was ever medic, the modern stuff we have today medicine before there was ever medic, the modern stuff we have today, and so when you think about the philosophy behind it, it's different.
Dr James Pierce:You go to certain hospitals. They'll say, hey, we don't have a cure for us, and so. But I've seen virtually every kind of cancer cured in my lifetime. Wow, are cured in my lifetime. It doesn't happen for everybody, but to me.
Dr James Pierce:The Bible says faith is the substance of hope, and when you have hope, that means you have a positive outcome. You can connect your faith to where your hope is, and so I just think that when people are facing something that says it's over, I don't get in agreement with it immediately. Unless they want to go, then I leave it up to them. But if they want to fight and they want to challenge it, then we look for alternatives, and I'm not opposed to alternatives. I don't think that both sides are 100% right. I just think that you can combine both. Looking at both sides of the coin is important. You're going to have more knowledge if you got both sides instead of just one side, and so I think that's what we have to think.
Dr James Pierce:If you're faced with a terminal diagnosis, I think you need to get positive about what can I do? You still have time. Cancer is a cellular problem and there might be some things that can be done, maybe unconventional, that might help you. The other thing is there are other places you can get a second opinion. You can find out other things that you can do. So again, it doesn't matter how, how smart a person is, if they don't have your answer, they can't help you.
Dr Jason Littleton :That's good.
Dr James Pierce:See what I'm saying, so you can get all the experts you want. If they don't have the answer, they can't help you. But then there are people who I believe they go beyond just what medicine can do and they say, okay, I'm going to try this. Since I've gone to the end of this, let me try this. And when you do that, I think I've seen it work out for people. It's not 100% accurate, but you're just trying to give yourself a chance. Yeah, yeah.
Dr James Pierce:That's the main thing. You know there's some cancers in medicine that some people they say, hey, it's easy, that's a piece of cake in the medical field. Hey, we know how to handle that, we caught it in time. It, that's a piece of cake in the medical field. Hey, we know how to handle that, we caught it in time. It's stage two. We know what to do. Here's the protocol. So it's all based on numbers. But numbers are changeable and as long as you live, things can change. So I think you should be positive about your life, be positive about what you want to do. If you got something to live for, do what you can to stay here, pray, ask God to help you, heal you, make you whole, go to somebody that can help you. I've seen people come out of hospitals. I've seen hospitals bring people to people who pray for them and they can heal. Wow, and so that's not. I've seen blind eyes open. Wow.
Dr James Pierce:No cure for blindness, but sometimes God intervenes. But their eyes are open, deaf ears open. Wow, people with no eardrums get a new eardrum. There's a supernatural God out there. I believe I've seen it, so it's too late to try to change my mind. I've already seen it and witnessed it. But then there's medicine that can help as well, so I use both at the same time. As long as it doesn't affect my spirit and my soul. Man, I'll use whatever that'll help me to stay and fulfill my purpose in life.
Dr Jason Littleton :Wow, that's. This is keepsake. This is keepsake. I mean it's like I'm so glad that we had this conversation because I know people are going to hear and learn and take these nuggets and make a difference in their life and it cleared up questions that people didn't understand or questions that they had. I mean, this was just powerful.
Dr James Pierce:Let me say this you know, sometimes you have to do unconventional things, like, for example, a lot of times when I've seen people get healed, it's because they've done. The doctors have said, hey, I did as far as I can go. I think sometimes we have to think about the limits to what somebody can do versus what faith can do as well. And I think sometimes, like if somebody came and said, hey, I can help cure this kind of pancreatic cancer. Yeah.
Dr James Pierce:Well, the average person said well, what does a doctor say? Well, if the doctor doesn't believe there's a cure, he ain't going to say nothing. But that's baloney. Yeah. But the thinking outside the box makes the difference. It's saying, okay, well, I don't have anything else, I might as well try it if I want to live, and I think that that's important for us to understand. Experts don't always have the answer. Science doesn't always have the answer, that's good.
Dr James Pierce:And I think that's important. And so thinking outside the box is important to a lot of things, getting a new perspective when you feel like you're stuck at something, even in a marriage, you can feel like I'm at this, we're both just butting heads and it's all because you're thinking. Yeah. If you think a little bit differently, make a little bit of adjustment, you can probably get through whatever that problem is. But most people don't think outside the box. They're so regimented in. Okay, this is right, this is wrong this is how it's done. Yeah.
Dr James Pierce:But sometimes it's just a different perspective, just a little bit different way of looking at it.
Dr Jason Littleton :perspective, just a little bit different way of looking at it and it can make a difference. I love that. That's, that's perfect. I'm so glad you said that that's going to go a long way with people and people needed to hear that and I'm so glad that I've had you on because, you know, now I can give this episode to patients and they can get clarity on how to walk out their healing in Christ Jesus without confusion and powerful. This is a powerful, powerful conversation. I, I, just I thank you so much for coming on my show. And where can people engage with you? Where can people find you?
Dr James Pierce:Well, you can go to, of course. I have a church website, dreamlifecentercom dreamlifecentercom. You can go there, find materials that we produce and things that we do materials that we produce and things that we do. You can email me at jamespears P-I-E-R-C-E the number eight at gmailcom jamespears8 at gmailcom. You can go there and you can email me questions or things like that and that can help me. Let me know about that. And, of course, the best way is online. Yeah, go to our website. You can find out more about that. And, of course, the best way is online. Go to our website. You can find out more about us and we're going to be coming out with a YouTube channel and I'll be doing some podcasts as well, so I'm glad to be a part of yours.
Dr James Pierce:So it helps me get started with mine.
Dr Jason Littleton :I'm excited. I can't wait to see that you got to check that out Everyone you know. Thank you for listening. Make sure that you download this podcast and follow me on all my handles you know apple, amazon, spotify. Check out linkedin instagram, facebook. Thank you for listening. I appreciate you guys. All right, bye.
