Defying Conformity: Entrepreneurial Spirit, Texas Tales, and Parenthood Philosophies with James Taylor

When defiance becomes your superpower, you're bound to break the mold and forge your own path.

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That's precisely what James Taylor, our guest who thrives on questioning authority and shrugging off societal judgments, brings to the table in our latest episode. We unravel his entrepreneurial spirit, the bold decisions marked by his firm stance against naysayers, and how he's pivoted from business ownership to a fulfilling role that has sprung new opportunities like the world of podcasting. Discover the intriguing balance between facing off with "keyboard warriors" and standing unwaveringly by your choices, as James delivers a masterclass in living life by your rules.

Ever felt the relentless drive for perfection tug at your sanity? We've been there, and in this episode, I get real about the pursuit of perfection and its double-edged sword nature across different facets of life, from academic achievements to the competitive sports arena. Join us as we share tales from the rugby field that set the foundation for my chiropractic business, and how my move to Texas, involving heartfelt handwritten notes, unveiled the keys to a successful practice purchase. My personal anecdotes and the wisdom of knowing your enterprise inside out before delegating will undoubtedly strike a chord with anyone aiming to navigate the delicate dance between idealism and pragmatism in their endeavors.

Parenthood, Texan idiosyncrasies, and the essence of competition fuel the final stretch of our chat. We peel back the layers on parenting philosophies, debate the existence of parental favoritism with a dash of humor, and dive into the cultural quirks that make Texas a unique landscape for raising a family. Moreover, as the 'Fueled by Spite' podcast approaches its 50th episode, we celebrate the milestones of setting goals, acknowledging winners and losers, and the undying competitive spirit that drives us all. Whether you're a parent, entrepreneur, or just someone looking for a hearty dose of unfiltered conversation, this episode is your ticket to a thought-provoking and laughter-filled journey.

Check out James' podcast Fueled By Spite - https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/fueled-by-spite/id1690587858

Books discussed in podcast: The Road Less Stupid by Keith J Cunningham and The Wealthy Gardener by John Soforic.

Transcript

Speaker 1: 0:01

Hey guys, welcome to the Questioning Authority podcast. I have a pretty cool guest on here with me, james Taylor, and we're going to just get into. I'm going to question his authority. Basically is what we're going to do here. So I'm going to open up the questions straight up with telling you what my definition of an authority figure is. So an authority figure is somebody who knows a little bit more about something than you might, and so hopefully you'll learn something from this. And another way to say authority in my definition is superpowers. So I'm going to ask you straight up, james, what is a little known superpower that you have that maybe a lot of people don't know about you?

Speaker 2: 0:49

and in all reality, if I'm, if I'm just thinking about, the first thing that's going to come to my mind is my. It's kind of one and two tied at the top. One is my ability to not give a shit. What other people think. When I say not give a shit like, I mean love it. You know there's. There's all kinds of like.

Speaker 2: 1:07

If you had to go back and change anything in your life, would you know I'd do it all the same? That's bullshit. You would absolutely change some stuff. But as far as man, when I make a decision to do something and more often than not I don't I like to test the water with both feet. And one thing that anyone who has attempted any kind of feat, whether it be personal or business or otherwise, you're going to come across detractors. And it seems like it's really easy for people to listen to other people and take the opinions, educated or otherwise, of others and some who they might not even really care about, and let that affect how they run their life, how they accomplish goals or don't accomplish goals. So it's, like I said, it's kind of one and two. My superpower is my ability to not care what others think but, at the same time, to really make a decision and stick to it.

Speaker 2: 2:08

And I find that surprisingly hard to come by, at least in the entrepreneurial space, which is a weird thing to say Like, oh, I thought entrepreneurs are going to go out, they're going to get after it. Well, they will, until someone tells them it's a bad idea. And then a lot of people start to back off.

Speaker 1: 2:28

And especially, I think, in this world of social media. So you know, at least back in the day, if you were told something like that, it was to your face and you could have a conversation about it. But now, today, today it's keyboard warriors, it's another story altogether. So people, can you know? Mike Tyson says everyone has a plan to like get punched in the face and right, and I mean that might sum up what you just talked about with your superpower is you know you'll get punched in the face and keep going.

Speaker 2: 3:01

And I can argue with you one little bit. No, another thing. I mean, when you bring up the keyboard warriors too, like you know, everyone's got a plan until they get punched in the face, absolutely true. And then you hear things like man, is this somebody who's going to want to jump on and just start detracting from you instantly simply because you're trying something different? I mean, I'm sure you've probably seen a post, or your viewers or listeners have quite similar the internet in a nutshell. You type out I like apples, and then somebody comments on it what about pears? You're anti-pear. Did you ever think about pears? It's like what it's like? I'm gonna start a business. Oh well, what about those people that just want to work and you'll be an employee? Do you hate them?

Speaker 1: 3:44

what the fuck you're talking about, like it's.

Speaker 2: 3:47

It's all about the money, you're all about the money I know you're right here all about the money you ever run a business fucking takes money most.

Speaker 1: 3:57

Most people who run businesses probably would get paid more if they were employees. Oh man, man Fact. Yeah, I see it all the time. Posts again, posts come up. Business is hard. These are the reasons why it's like, well, you could just go be an employee, it'd be probably a lot easier.

Speaker 2: 4:18

Sure could Clock in at nine clock out at five.

Speaker 1: 4:20

That's right, yeah, and actually I've done that recently. I owned my own practice, um, for about 15 years and, and just a couple years ago I sold it and now now I'm just, uh, an associate slash employee and whoo, it's kind of fun, it's uh. It definitely has its own challenges, but, um, you know, I'm diving into these other spaces like podcasting and all kinds of other cool stuff that I'm doing and um, so I wanted to free up some mental space, so I decided to sell that practice. I love what I do, but, um, just changing it up from a business side of things, and, yeah, I'll tell you, it's a lot easier if you do that five years sooner, you might have a little more up here.

Speaker 1: 5:11

Well, yeah, that's a long long gone, five years ago, man. So you said in your bio that you were voted, or something, to be most likely to argue with a teacher.

Speaker 2: 5:26

Tell me a little bit about that man. I wear that with a badge of honor. I am not a politician in any way, shape or form. I'll tell you right now. That is the only thing, at least at the top of my mind, that I've ever campaigned for. You know, you got your senior year yearbook superlatives most likely to be successful cutest couple, best eyes, best hair. St Michael of Riverville High School had a category most likely to argue the teacher.

Speaker 1: 5:52

Did you know I was that one that got voted best head of hair?

Speaker 2: 5:57

Aha, interesting Jokes. I was going to make a comment. Maybe you're fighting the system now.

Speaker 1: 6:07

Yeah, I'm fighting hard and I'm winning. I really am Sticking it to him, sticking it to the man Questioning authority. There it is, there, it is right there.

Speaker 2: 6:24

This ball got rolling a long time ago but no, back back to that, like so.

Speaker 1: 6:30

So how did that come about? Is that something? And we'll get into your podcast fueled by spite in a little while, but it sounds like there's kind of a running theme in your life, um, man it's it really.

Speaker 2: 6:41

A lot of it comes down to competition, just 100%. Yo, I, I want, I want to be noticed because I'm the best at something or at the very least pretty goddamn good at it. And man in school, I mean, you know, in the classroom there's not a whole lot of things to compete over, except for grades. So I mean, I wasn't a, I wasn a 4.0 student, but I was a good student and there was man. There was no bigger pet peeve of mine, no bigger thorn in my side than one wrong. You get one wrong on a test, one wrong on a quiz. You know, 98% made my blood boil. I mean, if I'm not going to get 100, you know, give me a 90, 90, but man, 98, like, oh, like, let's see if I find that. Why, why did I get that one wrong? Why did I get that 2% knocked off? And more often than not it was legitimate. But I'll tell you what. If I found a loophole you were going to hear about it.

Speaker 1: 7:40

So has that carried forward into the rest of your life with that? I'll call it perfectionism. You know, if 98 isn't good enough, 100 is the striving. I'll put that in the realm of perfectionism. And it's got its pluses and minuses right. Is that something that you've adapted to in business life? Because what is perfect in business, right? Like there is no such thing, you don't get 100% in business. I can guarantee. If you said you do, you're lying. That's the truth.

Speaker 2: 8:12

It has served me well, I'll say that much. But there have certainly been times where, man, if I was cool with 94, 95, 96, 97, 98%, I would have got things done quicker. The perfectionism, the paralysis by analysis someone coined it. There's been things that I could have done quicker, I could have done better, Hell I could have given up on, I could have not wasted so much time on if I was better able to just let it go. Man, it ain't going to work out in this instance. But yeah, I'd say it's served me well because it got me to where I am Just the ability and the want and the drive and the desire to succeed and to succeed ahead of others. But at the same time, if I could have just taken the L every now and then that would have served me on more than one occasion.

Speaker 1: 9:11

Well, like you said earlier, that whole idea of if you had to go back in your life and you know, if I could go back in my life and change anything, I wouldn't Bullshit, 100% would, and that might be one of those things. So, yeah, you were, you're not ugly fire clothes.

Speaker 1: 9:30

Change that you, you, um, you're obviously a high achiever in grades, but you're a high achiever in sport too, weren't you? I attempted to be Attempted to be yes, tell me what. Because you were high level sport but then also became coach. Still, like you, take care of a bunch of teams in Dallas. Now, what kind of lessons have you learned from that side of things? Because you know, sport really is a like a miniature look, or like a microscope. Look at life.

Speaker 1: 10:11

And so the things that you can learn in sport you can really bring on to your life, to your business life.

Speaker 2: 10:18

So you know, what have you learned there? And I mean, as cliche as it sounds, it's, it's. It's the teamwork aspect of it. I mean 100%. So my two biggest sports growing up were football and baseball. When I got into high school I didn't make the varsity squad for baseball and it wrecked me, absolutely wrecked me. And a buddy of mine was like hey, why don't you come out, try out for rugby? Like what's rugby? He's like it's kind of like football. I was from a small school and I played line or offensive line in football. He's like. The difference is it's kind of like football, but you've got to carry the ball. Oh, okay, sweet.

Speaker 2: 11:03

So I went out for rugby and man just absolutely fell in love with it 100% and carry that into college. I had zero intent to play rugby in college. I went out for the baseball team and their dues were like 300 bucks a semester. And I was coming back from class one day and I saw a little poster hey, rugby practice is out in front of the the towers, dorms, uh, open tryouts, you know whatever. So I go and I, oddly enough, even though I had zero intention to play in rugby, I brought my boots with me to college. I brought my socks with me. I brought my shorts, my short shorts zero intention went out zero, yeah right zero intention, but you know.

Speaker 2: 11:43

But I just went off to school and they're like hey, you know, dues are 40 bucks a semester. I was like I can afford 40 bucks a semester. So I didn't play baseball in college. I played rugby and played rugby from the beginning of college all the way through the end of college. Um ended up coaching. The team moved out, coach team man it's again with zero intention of playing rugby. It has become one of the cornerstones of not even my business life, but just my life in general and and so now you are a team chiropractor for a few teams around dallas, right, yep, yep uh not only so.

Speaker 2: 12:29

I chiropractor. I came down to dallas, I started a practice and rugby is how I built my practice. I reached out. The first two teams I reached out to were Fort Worth Men's Club and TCU. Became their chiropractor. I was like, hey, I'll start throwing you some money, because all these teams are club sports, they need money. And then it got to the point now there's shoot, there's, I would say, a dozen teams in DFW and in some way, shape or form, I sponsor every single one of them. I've sponsored national championship contenders with the ULIS Texans, national championship winners with the Dallas Reds. If I'm not mistaken, I think they might be the largest club organization in America, currently the team chiropractor for the Dallas Jackals, which is our major league rugby squad. Rugby has built my life.

Speaker 1: 13:21

And a few of our mentors always talk about relationships and how important building relationships are inside of building a business. And so how did that process go about? Like so for somebody listening here as a local business going, I'm looking to build relationships, like did you just start by just literally saying here's some money, please take my money. And then it just grew from there.

Speaker 2: 13:49

Damn near. When I first started, I didn't have any money to give, so I had to get money to give it back.

Speaker 1: 13:53

Yeah, first started I didn't have any money to give, so I had to get money to give it back.

Speaker 2: 13:55

Yeah, so like I literally my wife and I. So it was 2013 and that was a just crammed everything into that year. We got married in August of 2013. She graduated her master's program in October of 2013. I graduated chiropractic school in November of 2013. Actually, yesterday yesterday was my 10 year anniversary of crossing the Red River and ending up in Texas. So, as of today, I've been in Texas for 10 years in a day.

Speaker 2: 14:25

But when I came down here, set up my practice and, like I said, I went and looked for the rugby teams and I was like, hey, here's what I'll do. Like I said, I went and looked for the rugby teams and I was like, hey, here's what I'll do. Uh, like I said I got no money to give. We literally came down here. She had a job waiting for her. Um, I created a job. We had $2,000 to our name and I went to the rugby teams. Like can't give you anything right now, but I will treat everybody on your roster for free and if you send me anybody, come in the front door and say, hey, I was sent by Fort Worth Rugby Club, I was sent by Alliance Rugby Club. A fraction of whatever they pay me I will donate back to your team Ipso facto. The more people you send me, the more of their money I'll give back to you. So I can't give you anything yet, but you tell people about me and I'll pay you for it after they pay me.

Speaker 1: 15:15

I mean, and that's creative right, and that's really a big side to business these days is just taking a concept and tweaking it just the slightest bit.

Speaker 2: 15:28

And it can be life-changing.

Speaker 1: 15:29

You know an old, simple simple, easy go into a team and say and listen, I'll take care of the team for free. Or if you're a I don't know what else like in that sort of health space, taking care of people for free is a great place to start.

Speaker 1: 15:43

when you don't have anything, I don't necessarily recommend that as you get going and things, but it is an option and if you do it with integrity because that's the thing about giving stuff away for free is some people think it's not worth anything. That's the tough way in that balance.

Speaker 2: 16:02

The thing that helped me out was the fact that I went to rugby teams as a rugby player. If I went to a volleyball club, I don't think it would have worked as well. If I went to, I mean shoot, don't think it would have worked as well If I went to I mean shoot, I'm I'm chubby, so I float. But if I went to a swim club, it might've worked a bit better than volleyball.

Speaker 2: 16:27

There'd be no, there'd be no relationship, we'd have no common ground. I went to the rugby clubs cause I knew rugby, I could talk, I could talk the talk and I could walk the walk. They knew that I was sincere.

Speaker 1: 16:40

Yes, and that's the point of building relationships. It's not just to get the business, because again it's like trying to cater to everybody. You cater to nobody you may as well surround yourself with a bunch of people you're more likely to like, which, for you, is rugby people. They're a different breed than volleyball people. I 100% say that one Not the wrong volleyball people. I don't know volleyball people, I don't know rugby people.

Speaker 2: 17:09

See, that's where it's going to happen right now. This is going to get posted and someone's going to be like what do you got against volleyball? How come you're down under?

Speaker 1: 17:17

How come you didn't?

Speaker 2: 17:17

mention netball.

Speaker 1: 17:19

What do you got against netball? I can't believe you've even heard of netball. We're screwed. I hope so. I hope so, at least you know. Don't they say all attention is good attention Something like that.

Speaker 2: 17:32

Yeah, I say, all attention is good attention, something like that.

Speaker 1: 17:34

Yeah, right, any publicity is good, publicity that's the word Bring on the netballers. So how did you hear about netball? Like, how is that even a thing?

Speaker 2: 17:43

I thought that was. There is an old clip of the Australian rugby team. Let's see. When I was coaching, I was looking for tips and tricks on coaching the game of rugby and, just you know, fall down a YouTube hole and like, hey, you know, we want to get some cardio in, but we want to make, you know, practice interesting and dynamic and fun. So it's. I caught a video of pretty sure it was Australia's national team Just just playing netball for cardio one day.

Speaker 1: 18:19

Right ball for cardio one day? Right, where's the? Uh? Where's the backboard on that hoop? That looks weird. Why are they not bouncing the ball? That's right, yeah, right, yeah, I didn't even know it was a thing, um, until I got here and it is. I think it is actually the biggest sport in australia. Now the reason why? The reason why is um, it's the biggest women's sport, but for a long time here in Australia it was kind of the only women's sport. So anybody who was a girl who wanted to play, growing up, netball was what you did, whereas for boys there was AFL, there was rugby league, rugby union, there was cricket, although a scattered few girls would play those sports. It wasn't organized like it is now, so men would kind of spread to a bunch of different sports, whereas for women it was kind of netball. So it was I think it still is the biggest sport in Australia. Interesting, there you go for your bar stool trivia.

Speaker 1: 19:12

Yeah, there you go for your barstool trivia.

Speaker 2: 19:16

It's that old NBC thing. You just need that star shooting across the more you know.

Speaker 1: 19:19

Yes, and that will be invaluable knowledge you will take with you for the rest of your life, I'm sure it will. Speaking of invaluable knowledge, how did you know to go to Texas? Like there isn't like all the cool people in Texas now, but you went there 10 years ago. You were well ahead.

Speaker 2: 19:36

There is a bunch of cool people here, but we've got a bunch of Californians coming out and not to stereotypes but Now we're really screwed.

Speaker 1: 19:45

Yeah Right, you're calling out the Californians. We're really screwed now.

Speaker 2: 19:49

To stick the West Coast on us. No, it was oddly enough. So we were in a we, my wife and I. We were in an apartment in Richfield, minnesota. It was February, february of 2013. So I've got, I got three trimesters left before I'm out and I'm in the. I'm sitting on my desk studying in the living room. My wife is sitting on the fiance fiance at the time, yeah, fiance at the time sitting on my desk studying in the living room. My wife is sitting on the fiancé at the time yeah, fiancé at the time Sitting on the couch and she's watching this show called Bar Rescue.

Speaker 2: 20:19

Now, if you're unfamiliar, it's this guy, john Taffer. He goes into just bars around the country or whatever that are struggling and goes in, gives them a makeover and a facelift and yells at them and makes good TV or whatever. But she's watching Bar Rescue and it's taking place in, I think it's just outside of Austin, texas. At the beginning of every show, he gives a demo on where he's at and he's like Austin's got the largest amount of 18 to 35-year-olds and this is 2013. We're a bit removed from the housing crash, but people are still kind of struggling a little bit. Texas was, by and large, untouched by the housing crash and the recession. And she just turns and asks me and she's like hey, when you graduate, where do you want to work? And she was getting her master's at the time and I was like man, honestly, wherever I don't call my wife man wherever you can get a job, because I'm going to open up my own place. And she goes how about Texas? I'm like sure.

Speaker 2: 21:23

So how did you guys decide on Texas? It was cold in February in Minnesota and there's a place on TV that was taking place in Texas. So we said, how about Texas TV that was taking place in Texas. So we said, how about?

Speaker 1: 21:33

Texas, because when you said Bar Rescue, I had a whole other picture in my head. I thought, like, is this like rescuing people from bar? Situations that might have gone over Like Bar Rescue could mean a whole lot of different shows there.

Speaker 2: 21:51

It certainly could.

Speaker 1: 21:55

But yeah, I mean I've been to, I've been to dallas um once.

Speaker 2: 22:02

It was pretty cool city, yeah I quite enjoyed myself and bigger, bigger than all hell. I'll tell you what like. So when we decided texas, we narrowed it down to dfw and I was looking at it on a computer screen and if you've been here, it's huge, if you haven't, it ain't right. And so I basically I went on and I decided I was going to buy a practice. And so I searched fort worth chiropractor, dallas chiropractor, arlington chiropractor, and we decided on the north half of the Metroplex and any little red dot that popped up on Google Maps.

Speaker 2: 22:39

I sent them a handwritten letter. I sent out 426 handwritten letters and said hey, I'm going to graduate in about nine months, I'm going to look to buy a practice. If you're going to retire or you want to sell, let me know. And so from those letters that I mailed each one of them on individually, a little stamp on them and everything I was able to set up 30 appointments. And then I flew down here that September. So we decided in February, I flew down here in September, set up 30 appointments and came down here, realized how big the place was.

Speaker 1: 23:13

You're right.

Speaker 2: 23:13

Canceled half of them.

Speaker 1: 23:15

You're like I don't want to be here Because my wife had a job waiting for her Right.

Speaker 2: 23:20

Interviewed 15, settled on one. Here I am.

Speaker 1: 23:23

Nice. I mean it's a great way to do it, whether or not you. I don't think you necessarily need to do the handwritten letters, but it's a nice touch. You necessarily need to do the handwritten letters, but it's a nice touch. It's more likely to be opened and in today's world of overstimulation, when you get a handwritten letter you're probably going to open it. When you get one of those, in practice you kind of go uh-oh what's this? What's this? This is important. And then you open it up and you go oh sweet now.

Speaker 2: 23:55

I just I checked the return address like is it an attorney? Because if it's an attorney I do pi. There might be a check in there right, right, right.

Speaker 1: 24:03

But uh, what about the ones that don't have return addresses?

Speaker 1: 24:07

yeah, you can't check delegate, delegate that's one of the most important business practices, isn't it? Absolutely. What I'm learning, though, is is trying to at least I'll talk for myself trying to learn it. Well, first then delegate, as opposed to I don't know what that is, I don't know how it works, I'm just going to delegate, because then you can't you can't track that performance, you can't know that it's being done well or poorly uh, if you don't know how to do it first, that's true. Um, I think I've. I've fallen into the trap of doing that, just delegating out, because I don't understand it, and I've definitely got burned from it.

Speaker 1: 25:00

So, if you're, looking to do that, and more often than not that fire is expensive, very much, so, absolutely expensive in many ways Time, money, mental health, everything which leads me to you know. Another question is I think generally people show you who they are. Whatever they say, they may not tell you, but they will show you who they are, and they do that through their actions, of course, and what you do in one realm of your life, you will typically do in all realms of your life to some degree. Do you have any, any routines that work for you, like that? You are, quote unquote, religious about? That sets you up for other areas in your life. For example, uh, like a movement routine. Do you do something regularly or every day, or a breath routine or anything along those lines. That sets you up well, it's really I've shoot.

Speaker 2: 26:05

I've said this for a long time and I can't take credit for it because I don't think I made, I don't think I came up with it on my own, but I've certainly co-opted it and it's. You know, there's always more time in the morning, you know, don't let the sun catch you sleeping. So one thing that I have become as a business owner and as just a functioning, successful adult is a morning person. So the amount of stuff that I can get done before the sun actually rises, I would put up against damn near anybody. I work out every morning, I go through affirmations every morning and it sounds shoot.

Speaker 2: 26:48

If you talked to me 15 years ago and told me, yeah, you're going to say affirmations every morning, you're going to tell yourself how great you are, I'd be like, well, you're going to tell yourself how great you are. I've been like well, why would I? Why would I need to tell myself how great I am? I know how great I am.

Speaker 2: 27:00

But then, going back to how we started this whole thing, especially with the advent of social media, there's plenty of people who will be able to tell you, or at least have the opportunity to tell you, how great they don't think you are. So the more often that you can remind yourself, the better it's going to stick. And part of being great comes from not only a mental health aspect, but a physical health aspect. If you feel like shit, you're going to think like shit. So I can say all that you know happy, fluffy, sparkly stuff to myself all day long. But man, if I don't take care of my physical body, if it still hurts to bend over and tie my shoes, I don't think all the words in the world are going to help me.

Speaker 1: 27:41

That's right. It doesn't build confidence, and being fit or strong or whatever that means for you, builds strength of mind and builds a fortitude that, like being uncomfortable I think that's a huge one these days is people are afraid to be uncomfortable. Absolutely Again. If it's in one area, it's in all areas. Comfortable, absolutely Again, if it's in one area, it's in all areas.

Speaker 1: 28:11

If there's anything entrepreneurs tend to be relatively okay with is being uncomfortable, and I think it was. I don't know could have been. Tony Robbins or some cool dude said something about the level of uncertainty that you're comfortable with will determine how you live your life.

Speaker 2: 28:28

I would buy that.

Speaker 1: 28:30

So if you're, you're building up this fortitude. You've mentioned that your, your kids, are building their. What are they? Their thrones, their entrepreneurial thrones you mentioned? Tell me a little bit about that. How old are they?

Speaker 2: 28:51

first of all, I got Frankie Claire. She is six. She'll be seven in January. And I got Calvin Michael.

Speaker 1: 28:58

He just turned five this last September here and so tell me about how you navigate that with kids, because you know, even as adults we fall into those traps and we read this negative. You know if you're putting yourself out there you're going to get negativity, no matter what. Even if you get the positivity, there is the negatives, and for every hundred positives, if we hear one negative, we remember the negative more than the positive. So how are you, how are you navigating that as a, as a, as a parent who, with such young kids?

Speaker 2: 29:27

Well, I mean, it kind of goes back to a couple of things we're talking about already. Like you know, I put my kids online. I just you know cause one? I mean my daughter's beautiful. My son is handsome as all hell. Uh, they're extremely photogenic. But then what are you gonna do Some people? I would never post my kids online. Going to do Some people? I would never post my kids online, whatever. That's why they're not your kids.

Speaker 2: 29:47

But going back to what we were talking about before, like it's, man, you just my, my superhero power of not listening to other people is really coming in handy here. So because I mean, I'm raising, I'm raising my kids to literally just be awesome people, and it's it's again, it sounds cliche and it sounds stupid, things like that, but man, it's just, if you raise them to be good people, they're going to turn out to be good people. I can't. I did an episode on a podcast earlier, one of my own. I don't, honestly. I don't understand how people are bad parents. I don't get it Like, don't get me wrong, it's not the easiest job in the world by any stretch of the imagination. This podcast here between you and I came at a wonderful time because it's Thanksgiving weekend, so we have a four-day break here. School's closed and daycare's closed.

Speaker 2: 30:39

So we've had four solid straight days of a five and a six-year year old running around. We're trying to decorate for Christmas and they're seeing all the stuff they haven't seen in the last 360 days. And so I'm like sorry, honey, I got a, I got a podcast to film, Good luck.

Speaker 1: 30:54

I'll be back. Do you have good insulated walls where you are there now?

Speaker 2: 31:00

We do, we've got. We've got a good amount of space between us and the neighbors. But again, how do you handle the parenting landscape, man, you've got to go with your gut. I mean, you really do. And if you're a good person at heart, you're going to raise good people. And again, I've only got two kids.

Speaker 1: 31:26

I don't have a large sample size, but so far I've had two kids alive for six years and they're fucking awesome I mean I what I was saying earlier that I've I've done some other podcasts in the past and one of them was called the wake up dad show, so it was literally all about dadhood and parenthood and that type of thing. And when it comes to kids, really I think the biggest thing they need to know is that they're accepted and loved. That's, that's the bottom line, right and and so through. You know there's many different ways to do it.

Speaker 1: 32:02

I'm not an advocate one way or the other around put your kids online or not, or whatever the case might be, but I get both sides to it and as long as you're teaching them values along the way, and when something negative comes up because you know that's life, whether it's social media or not, it's just again a microcosm of the bigger world is that you're there as a parent to show them what that means and to provide a perspective that they don't know because they're young. They haven't had that perspective before. So cool, I love it, I mean.

Speaker 2: 32:39

I'll tell you right off the bat, my daughter, man again, she's six, going to be seven, and she's, she's got more emotions in her tiny body, uh, than I've experienced in my 40 years on this earth. And, man, when she starts to get you know, you know weepy, and it's like honey, honey, dad only knows how to deal with happy, mad, sad and this is way more than sad.

Speaker 2: 33:02

But then, uh, my son, that kid is a no limit soldier. I mean, I heard somewhere along the lines where you might not have a favorite kid, but you got an easy kid. And my son ain't the easy kid, he's he's. He's the one that's gonna keep us up at night. He's gonna break curfew the first chance he gets. I'll tell you that right now and I don't mean to like put it out there in the universe, but shit, it's gonna happen.

Speaker 1: 33:26

If someone comes on with a police officer in tow, it's gonna be calvin michael taylor well, um, I've only got one kid, so I, I can't say this at all, but I feel like, without a doubt, if you've, if you're a parent to more than one kid, you got a favorite and that's okay. I, I don't believe again bullshit that you know you love every kid exactly the same. It's like, no, they, they all have their differences, um, but there's guaranteed.

Speaker 2: 33:55

Oh, that's fair 100 again.

Speaker 1: 33:59

I can't even speak out of um actual knowledge because I've only got one kid, but um yeah so you're pissing off every multi-family or multi-child child house on the earth.

Speaker 2: 34:08

So we're pissed off a lot of people today, man I'm loving it.

Speaker 1: 34:12

That's great. The the shorts that come out of this one are going to be fantastic don't keep it tallies.

Speaker 2: 34:20

We got people with more than one kid. What netballers, volleyball players, people who like pears?

Speaker 1: 34:29

Californians.

Speaker 2: 34:31

Californians yeah, that's right.

Speaker 1: 34:35

Well, let's add Texas. I meant to say this earlier. Why is everything so big? Like not only the town, but, oh my God, I could fit three of my cars in one of your cars. Like the trucks, the cars, they're just, they're just so big. Everything is big there.

Speaker 2: 34:54

I swear to God, like, so I like I said when I came down here 10 years ago. I drove down, you know, I packed up a U-Haul and pointed it south and I swear and I I will hold this to this day until I get actually like legitimate, you know, numerical evidence. I even think the the lanes of traffic here, I think there's like an extra three or four inches on either side. It seems like even the lanes on the road are just a hair bigger, and it would not surprise me if there's truth to that and it was done on purpose, just so texas can be like yep grow into it, grow into even our lane.

Speaker 1: 35:27

Yes, I, I wouldn't doubt it, because I don't think those trucks would fit on our lanes here, although there is a big move here in texas in texas. There's a big move here in in australia for the big trucks too. Man, you guys are influencing us too much. Yeah, fair. So tell me about your podcast. You know, I think as we get into it, it's probably what you've already told me. You know, with your superpower not giving a shit, basically, but tell me a little bit about it. With this whole idea of Fueled by Spite, what does that mean to you?

Speaker 2: 36:03

I mean it came out of from what I perceive is a vacuum in the entrepreneurial and self-development space. I'm black and white, I'm A or B, I don't deal in a whole lot of gray area, and anyone who's an entrepreneur, I think it's a pretty safe bet that you get into some kind of headspace stuff, some sort of positivity, some sort of self-development, which is awesome. But it seems like there's a lot at least from what I've taken in that ignore the gritty truth and part of it, like it comes back from my just my want to compete. If there's a competition, there's got to be a loser, there's got to be someone who is beat right. And I mean maybe it's the time we're living or whatever, but it seemed like I wasn't allowed to tout my own successes if it meant that somebody had to lose and it's like, well, maybe you didn't lose, Maybe you just didn't do as good as me or the whole. Don't compare yourself to other people. Compare yourself to how you were yesterday. No, I already know I'm better than I was yesterday.

Speaker 2: 37:29

But that guy over there, or that woman over there, that chiropractic office where she's seeing 300 people a week and I'm only seeing 200, no, I want to compete with her. That guy over there who's collecting a million dollars and I'm only at 750, I want to compete with that guy over there who's collecting a million dollars and I'm only at 750. I want to compete with that guy because I know I can be better than myself. I I know myself really well, but I want to figure out what that person's doing and I want to do it better. Because they got something I want. They've got a level of success or a level of experience that I haven't achieved, and if I only compete with myself, I only know what I know. So if I'm going to find myself in a situation where I need to grow, I want to find someone who's grown to a place I want to be in and I just kind of want to beat them at their own game.

Speaker 1: 38:16

So that they might not even know. Hey, they might not even know.

Speaker 2: 38:21

I can tell you right now spoiler alert there's a future episode coming of, fueled by Spike, called who the Hell is Dylan, and Dylan doesn't. To the best of my knowledge, dylan doesn't know I exist, but I know who Dylan was when I was starting practice because he was a lot more visualized than I was. I saw him more places than I saw me. So I set out to beat Dylan and I tell you right now I did, and I don't think he ever knew that I was going in for him Nice.

Speaker 1: 38:49

That's perfect Because Sorry, dylan, well, and in reality, it's a good way to do it because, basically, it's setting goals, really, because, although, yes, you're looking to the outside to create that competition and beat this person, but they don't even know, so it's okay, but for yourself, you're able to do it. So it brings me back to winners and losers and the fact that there's winners and losers every single day, and there should be, and what we're doing right now, there should be, there should be, should be, there has to be. Yes, there has to be, and it's okay either way. Really, because, well, with the stipulation that if you learn from losing, right, if you just keep losing, you keep being a loser, then you're fucking loser yeah and in reality, world needs ditch diggers, that's right.

Speaker 1: 39:50

100, and if, if you're happy, that's the other side to it, that digress on the happiness side, because that's a whole cool thing that we might talk about. But winners and losers, what do you think of the whole? Everyone gets a ribbon thing. No, no, no, no no, no A hundred percent.

Speaker 2: 40:11

It doesn't. I mean it doesn't. Again, I did an episode of Fueled by Spite with a fighter. His name is Evan Cutts. He wants to have 40 fights before he's 40. He just turned 33.

Speaker 2: 40:24

And I asked him you know what drives him? So I mean him, he's an MMA fighter, he's a black belt in Jiu Jitsu and even just thinking, he gave me one of the best answers that I could have even hoped for for the question like what drives you? What keeps you going? And he looks at me and goes evidence. It's like wow, what an answer. Because I got beat so I had to go back to the drawing board and try again and then I beat that person. I'm like, wow, what an answer. Yeah, it's like cause I got beat so I had to go back to the drawing board and try again, and then I beat that person or I beat another person.

Speaker 2: 40:50

I got some evidence. He goes without. Back to your question. You know, without winners and losers, there wouldn't be evidence. With participation, participation, trophies, there's no evidence because in the real world, in in business, whether you're clocking in, clocking out or starting someone yourself, man, you are going to lose well, 100%, and and yeah it's kind of like baseball like you're you're an old baseball player like like, a 300 batting average is phenomenal.

Speaker 1: 41:23

That means you strike out 70 percent of the time.

Speaker 2: 41:27

Yeah, right, like, and that's amazing if you could, you could be 300 in business, yeah yeah, um, everyone's got a plan till the punch in the face.

Speaker 1: 41:38

yep, it's like, then, what you plan is the key, uh-huh. So what's about? How long has the Fueled by Spite podcast been going?

Speaker 2: 41:51

well, I mean, I got, I started it. Then I got punched in the face. Uh-huh, we are, we're approaching 50 episodes. Um, I, I recorded my first episode last year, didn't publish it right away, but record. Well, shit, I recorded a small handful of episodes. And then my office here um, so I own the building I'm in. I've got a tenant next door who's a dentist. Uh, he burst a pipe. And he burst a pipe the day after christmas. And no shit, it was, it was christmas day. He burst a pipe christmas day.

Speaker 2: 42:24

So I had a handful of episodes of fueled by spite recorded sitting at home. Christmas breakfast was out of the way and he gives me a cause. Like, we got water and it flooded the whole entire space and this whole thing had to be remodeled. His space, my space, carpet was torn up, walls were torn out, so I had this whole thing rolling, this whole thing being fueled by spider. All these episodes ready to go.

Speaker 2: 42:51

And then I got punched in the face because the actual way that I make a living through chiropractic, that was taken from me. So I had to. And not only that, I was a brand new landlord, so my tenant's livelihood was taken from him too. So I had to get this whole thing put back together. But what I did is I was actually, if you go back to the first few episodes, they're recorded on my phone Like I recorded some pretty ones and then after that, when everything got torn out, I record episodes on my phone. You look behind me and there's drywall missing, there's no carpet, like, hey, I can't conduct business. I've got some free time, let's record some more episodes. So I, you know, I got punched in the face and I, like you said, I went with a plan B. I got free time, let's do some more of this stuff.

Speaker 1: 43:39

It's such a big lesson to learn in not only business and entrepreneurship, but life is. You're going to get punched in the face and how do you deal with it? Like what is plan B, c, d, e and F, because shit happens, and how do we move forward?

Speaker 2: 43:59

I mean you can punch in the face with punches you've never seen. But you know I've had slow days in the office or something like that. Or I've had you know, maybe some you know patient payments that you know haven't gone through and you know it's part of doing business. You understand that I became a landlord and then the fucking building. Oh, it's like if all I've ever done is taken jabs and then someone sneaks an uppercut on me. What the hell was that when?

Speaker 1: 44:27

did that come from? You wake up in the hospital an hour later. What Yep?

Speaker 2: 44:32

Yep, all your friends standing over you. What happened yeah?

Speaker 1: 44:36

Love it it. So everybody who's listening, check out that. Fuel by spite podcast. Um, basically, on all the, on the, on all the regulars, yep yeah, wherever you find it, fuel by spite, check it out. So quick little hit list of some some questions now for the listeners to um, hopefully get something like what is your favorite book or book you're leading, uh, listening to or reading right now?

Speaker 2: 45:02

fair, uh it's behind me. Oh sweet, yep. So this right here the road, less stupid, is fantastic awesome it is.

Speaker 1: 45:12

I've not heard of that oh man, it's one.

Speaker 2: 45:15

It's a great read because, mean, the chapters are like two and three pages. Here's just as an idea. So there's all the stuff that's been bookmarked. But that's what I'm going through right now. It's almost like a success manual. And then another one that was given to me by a colleague, molly Spahn. Molly Spahn, she's a chiropractor out in oh shoot, one of the carolinas. It's called the wealthy gardener this is just wealth.

Speaker 2: 45:44

It's written by a chiropractor, but just, it's not a chiropractic book, it's a finance book. It's a wealth book, um, but it's, it reads. It reads like a storybook and the lessons in there. That is one of the few books I've read more than three times. I've cause. I'll read a book once for sure. I'll go back and go through it again If it's good. That's the only one I've ever read three times and it it's. It's a fantastic read.

Speaker 1: 46:14

Awesome, yeah, I think I've heard of that second one, never heard of the first one. Love the title of that first one, right yeah.

Speaker 2: 46:22

It was the title that got me to. I was at a conference and, just you know, your ear picks up, whatever it picks up from time to time. And here's somebody say, yeah, I'm reading this book called a road less stupid, and it's like all right, right, title alone I'm in, hopped on amazon, bought it right there. It's literally sight unseen. I just heard someone behind me talk about it less stupid is is good, less stupid is good you can minimize the stupid I'm in but don't even worry about being smart, just be less stupid.

Speaker 1: 46:51

Yeah, just minimize the stupid. Any um, any seminars that you absolutely love and this is not, again, nothing to do necessarily with chiropractic, but it could be a chiropractic seminar, because there's so many integrations these days.

Speaker 2: 47:09

I mean man I have. I have really, um grown to love the stuff that's coming out of black diamond club with Sean Dillon Lacey book. Like I said I've, yesterday was my 10 year anniversary of being in Texas. I ran I still run a damn good chiropractic practice. I mean it's, if I do say so myself, according to a survey I made up right now, probably the best one out there. You beat Dylan. Yeah Right, suck it Dylan. Probably the best one out there. Um, you beat dylan. Yeah right, suck it dylan.

Speaker 2: 47:43

Um, I kept my head down. I kept my head down. I focused within the four walls of my office for a decade and I built something awesome. But man, talking with you know the, the people at black diamond I bet I could have got it done a lot quicker if I, at the very minimum, applied some of their strategies on relationship building Hell, what we were talking about before. Yeah, I mean I did a lot of this on my own, more or less, certainly the support system around me. But I could have gotten to where I am a lot quicker if, again, I took some of their philosophy and applied it sooner rather than later.

Speaker 1: 48:15

Again, I took some of their philosophy and applied it sooner rather than later. 100% Lessons, relationships and finding people who've done or have achieved what you want to achieve To lessen that road is definitely an absolute key. You don't have to, you didn't, but man, it's easier. Yeah, you don't have to, you didn't, but man, it's easier. Yeah.

Speaker 2: 48:38

Once again, you'd go back and change anything, would you? No, you liar.

Speaker 1: 48:42

Yeah, total liar. I would have bought Bitcoin in 2003. Right, I think it was 20,000 Bitcoin. Bought a pizza, now 20,000.

Speaker 2: 48:55

Bitcoin can buy the world three times over something like that. It might be the same story or a very similar one. The thumb drive that has that Bitcoin on it is lost in a landfill somewhere.

Speaker 1: 49:08

Absolutely Gone forever. Yep, yeah, so thanks for coming on the show man this has been a very, very fun, educational. Great to have you on board. Guys, check out the Fueled by Spike podcast, do you have? I know you do a joke to end things off.

Speaker 2: 49:33

Okay, no, I got, yeah. So again, chiropractor. Um, I got people coming here from the youngest to the oldest and you gotta, you gotta, have something that'll fit everybody. As much as we talk about how there's nothing out there for everybody, um, to the best of my knowledge, this joke only offends two very small groups of people. Uh, what's the difference between a bad golfer and a bad skydiver? I?

Speaker 1: 50:01

don't know.

Speaker 2: 50:06

Did I lose you?

Speaker 1: 50:08

No, no, nope, I'm here Okay.

Speaker 2: 50:11

You got me. There's a give and take. What's the difference?

Speaker 1: 50:13

between a bad golfer and a bad skydiver. Sorry, I said I don't know.

Speaker 2: 50:17

Oh, okay, so for editing purposes, what's the difference between a bad golfer and a bad skydiver? Bad golfer goes whack, damn it, and bad skydiver goes damn it, whack, damn it, whack.

Speaker 1: 50:30

And who does that offend so that we can make sure to get that in Golf, that offend so that we can make sure to get that early golfers and skydivers.

Speaker 2: 50:36

Okay, a small subset bad golfers and bad skydivers. Good golfers and good skydivers.

Speaker 1: 50:39

They probably don't care about that joke well, the bad skydivers aren't with us and the uh that, that one's, that one's okay. And the bad golfers? I'm on that track and I'm not offended, so that's all good. Awesome. All right guys. Yes, thank you so much for being on here. Check out his podcast and we'll talk to you soon, guys. Awesome man. Hey, thanks for having me.

Speaker 2: 51:05

I appreciate the time.

Speaker 1: 51:06

Thank you.