Take The Leap

#131: Stop Waiting for Better Systems and Start Building Them Instead

Victoria Proppe & Ashlan Glazier-Anderson Season 3 Episode 45

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In this powerful and wide-ranging conversation, we welcome back Michael Jonas for a candid update on his work, from launching innovative community-building tools like the Narwhal Pod to diving into big, uncomfortable questions through his new podcast, All American Why. What starts as a conversation about entrepreneurship and resource-sharing quickly expands into a deeper discussion about systems, leadership, and what it really means to show up for your community right now.

If you’ve ever felt frustrated by broken systems, burned out by “the way things have always been,” or unsure how to take meaningful action in your work or life–this episode will challenge your thinking and remind you why community, creativity, and courage matter more than ever.


Key Takeaways

  • Community is the real infrastructure and we need to build it intentionally. The Narwhal Pod is more than a directory. It’s a reimagined way to connect values-aligned service providers and organizations in a way that actually reflects people as whole humans, not just job titles.
  • If the system doesn’t exist, build it. Instead of waiting for better tools or solutions, Michael created one. Reminding us that innovation often comes from frustration paired with action.
  • You can’t solve big problems with surface-level thinking. Whether in business, nonprofits, or government, real change requires digging into root causes and not just reacting or applying quick fixes.
  • The scarcity mindset is killing collaboration. When organizations duplicate efforts instead of sharing resources, everyone loses. True impact requires coordination, not competition.
  • Being “non-political” is still a choice, with heavy consequences. Decisions are being made every day that affect our lives, whether we engage or not. Opting out doesn’t mean you’re unaffected—it just means you’re not in the room.


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