This That And The Other
This That And The Other
35.Navigating the Digital Entertainment Landscape: From Cable Cutting, Digital Antennas, Subscriptions, And More
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We discuss our journey to finally cut the cord on our cable subscription and our experiences setting up a 200-mile range antenna that now gives us 16 free channels.
• Frustrations with the recent daylight saving time change and why it should be eliminated
• Testing and installing a new long-range TV antenna after years of paying for cable we barely watch
• The realization that we're spending over $1000 yearly on cable when we mostly use streaming
• Our growing addiction to phones, Netflix, Disney+, and other subscription services
• Reviews of two true crime documentaries: The Gabby Petito Story on Netflix and Devil in the Family (Ruby Franke case) on Hulu
• Plans to visit Unclaimed Baggage in Scottsboro, but warnings to avoid their busy ski sale days
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I'm tired. You know why I'm tired.
Speaker 2You're always tired.
Speaker 1I'm tired because I actually got up at 4.50 this morning instead of 5.50. You know why I got up at 4.50 this morning instead of 5.50. You know why I got up at 4.50? Stupid time change, because the clock said 5.50, but actually it's 4.50.
Speaker 2Jody's body says 4.50. Right right.
Speaker 1So that's what's aggravating.
Speaker 2So welcome back.
Speaker 1Welcome back Once again. Amanda doesn't want to wear her headphones because it messes up her hair there, really is Not on a Sunday when I fix my hair.
Speaker 2I ain't wearing them.
Speaker 1But you want to make sure you're in the mic.
Speaker 2I'm in the mic. I'm all up in the mic.
Speaker 1You are all up in the mic.
Speaker 2Okay, then I got you.
Speaker 1So back to the time change thing. So they're saying now that Trump is looking at this I don't know if he is or not Congress whoever it's been up there before Past something. Let's stop this, you got. Arizona and Hawaii are the only two states that don't do anything. They don't play this stupid game with the time.
Speaker 2And we're not. So why is it not up to the state? I thought it was at one time.
Speaker 1We're not telling the sun when to set and when to rise. It's doing that on its own, so why, instead of messing, up right they're like oh, we need more time and I do like having. I like it being light at eight o'clock at night. I can stay outside, do stuff, pedal, all that.
Speaker 1That's great understand that, and when you do that, you come in and you're like, oh, I should have been in the bed an hour ago but the thing is, let's not change the time back and forth to play around, because in the fall we need to change it to for whatever. Now it's dark at four o'clock in the evening. Just keep the time to change. Let's adjust our schedule to whatever the need is. If you're like I don't like getting off work at four o'clock and it's dark outside, well you know what? Let's get these businesses changed. Say you're working 7 to 4. Guess what? You're working 6 to 3.
Speaker 2Now I can't even get there at 7. You think I can get there at 6?
Speaker 1Now you're getting off work and it's still light. So let's do that. Let's adjust our business's time when you do things and leave the stinking time time alone.
Speaker 2Okay, I'm done, I can't get there at 7.
Speaker 1Well, that's on you.
Speaker 2You think I could get there at 6?.
Speaker 1That's on you. That has nothing to do with me. That's not on me.
Speaker 2My body cannot get up and go. Something's wrong with it.
Speaker 1Well, that's on you, that's not me, that's not the time.
Speaker 2It's Mother nature and I can't stand her right now Time has nothing to do with you getting somewhere on time.
Speaker 1That's on you. Well it's not when I just can't go, it's called individual responsibility.
Speaker 2And I try, I try really hard, really hard. Your body just won't go.
Speaker 1Hey, we're on YouTube, by the way. Check us out. These videos will be out there. You'll get to see Winston, our dog. He makes an appearance every time because he sits right beside me every episode now.
Speaker 2I guess so.
Speaker 1Yeah, we put a towel down because I don't want him to scratch up these seats. I like this leather.
Speaker 2I know, I think that's scratch Someone's into a leather person, I think that scratch is from me. It had some scratches when we got it.
Speaker 1It might have had a few, but I don't think it was that deep Well.
Speaker 2What have we done today? We're actually recording on.
Speaker 1Sunday. We're recording on Sunday.
Speaker 2Actually we recorded on Saturday. I didn't really like it.
Speaker 1Yeah, you. So I'm like and I thought it was all right. I don't know why I didn't like it. The only thing about it was we had to take a pause right in the middle of it.
Speaker 2Yeah.
Speaker 1And that was fine, no big deal. So you know we could start right back and we did. We started right back. But then, when we got done with it, I looked at the recording and the recording had stopped like 13 minutes in. We're talking about the video, not the audio. It's all hooked in but it's just records different. So I was like well, dang um, but that's all right. So because we had, I was just gonna have to splice the audio together and everything right. But then you're like I just didn't, like it didn't so I don't know.
Speaker 1All right, we'll do it tomorrow and then now. Tomorrow is here. I don't want to you're like you don't want to but I'm here. I'm here Because we didn't get home from church directly.
Speaker 2And we still hadn't had lunch.
Antenna Installation Adventure
Speaker 1Yeah, and we got a funeral to go to. It's late. So we got several things we got to do, several things we got to do. So we said last time we're going to talk about this antenna, do you remember, right? I had you order me an antenna.
Speaker 2I know about the antenna, I just don't remember saying what I was going to talk about last time, oh, yeah, we did.
Speaker 1And I said, no, just hold it and we'll talk about it next time. Yeah, is that what we did? Yeah, so we'll make it quick. I bought an antenna a couple of years ago. It was like a $40 antenna from Walmart. It's supposed to have a 50 or 60 mile range. Basically, what it's trying to do is connect to these towers that you've got. We've got one in birmingham, tuscaloosa, colma, I think there's several of them, so we're borderline right there with that one. I've been able to to get it. Well, it didn't work, couldn't pick up any challenge or anything, so we're just like oh well, so now we're like you. You know I'm tired of spending $100 a month. Where is it $100, $110,?
Speaker 2$95? No, it's not below $100.
Speaker 1So it's a little over $100,.
Speaker 2I guess yeah.
Speaker 1So we got Spectrum. It could be anything, but we've got Spectrum. I'm not dogging Spectrum for anything, even though we started off bad with them, because they contract out their help. When they hooked it up, dude ran the cable down the drive and it wasn't high. It drug across the top of your vehicle as you was going up our driveway and then the FedEx guy ripped it out a couple days later because he didn't know it. But we won't get into that.
Speaker 1But that started off on the bad side On Thanksgiving no, the day before thanksgiving and you had a supervisor that said, hey, you're getting, you will have it today, no matter what they're having issue after issue couldn't get a strong signal and he gave you his card call me. What did we do? We called him and guess what? He didn't answer. You know why? Because it's the evening before it's holidays and of course he's not going to answer. He just did a nice gesture, giving you a business card, but he's not answering. So I found this antenna, like $80, $90, $100 antenna. It's supposed to have a 200 mile range. I thought, hey, let's try this out If it don't work you know how it is with Amazon.
Speaker 1We can send it back Order it, send it back, no big deal, so I get it Sit on it for a week or two. I finally put it together. I actually videoed myself putting it together.
Speaker 2How long did it take for me to order it?
Speaker 1A month, yeah, because I didn't want to order it Three times a week, I'd ask have you ordered it? Oh yeah, I've got to order that, don't I?
Speaker 2No, I don't want to order it because it's big.
Speaker 1Oh yeah, so got it, put it together, videoed it. We have where our original satellite was at one time. We've got a it's like a fence post, it's a metal, whatever that's in the ground. So I actually used it to anchor this antenna into, because I didn't want to mount it on the house. I don't want to get up on the side of the chimney and put it on up there, but if I did, maybe we'd get a ton of channels.
Speaker 2I don't know, maybe I'll do that at a different time but that's a different story too.
Speaker 1If I do that, we'll talk about it later, oh goodness.
Speaker 1Put it in there, got under the house, ran coax cable temporarily, didn't do anything. The right way. We're just trying to hook this thing up, get in behind the tv, hook it up and then go through the settings to see what happens. You've got to turn it, and I was. I was mad about that, though we had no information with this satellite on how you're supposed to point this thing or anything. The rca one that I bought, the original one, it had an app that you went on there and it kind of told you, hey, which direction? All that kind of stuff. So, anyway, I'm outside pointing this thing, you know, in like a clear direction. You're inside seeing what I do and how many channels did it pick up the first time?
Speaker 2first time I got 11, 11 it got 11.
Speaker 111 channels.
Speaker 2No news channels.
Speaker 1No news. I came inside, we looked at them Nothing, nothing we wanted.
Speaker 2It's like good night, send it back. Don't want it.
Speaker 1Send it back. So I repositioned, I went on the deck, pointed it, and then we only got like five channels.
Speaker 2Oh yeah, it went down.
Speaker 1Yeah, it was a better location, a clearer sky, which I'm really not. You're not pointing straight at it, I was just pointing, you know, almost like line of sight.
Speaker 2Yeah, then it went like down to five.
Speaker 1Yeah. So then I'm like, oh my goodness. So I went back to the original spot. But then I turned it all the way almost completely the opposite direction, put it in there. It's going through trees, now no straight shot or anything. And then we got how many channels? 16?
Speaker 216 or 17.
Speaker 1Yeah, so I went in there we looked at them. We're getting the local ABC, right. Yeah, you're getting James Spann's got a 24-7 channel, yep, which is crazy.
Speaker 2I know.
Speaker 1So we're getting several of the local news channels that you wanted, and then a bunch of what? Odds and ends stuff that we won't watch western channel yeah but I think we got that free. Anyway, on our roku stuff yeah, so you, you add the roku free channels in with it and we've got how many channels? Probably 50 channels yeah, but a lot of those are a lot of them are old, but they're old.
Speaker 2Shows that, like if I was here by myself, I would probably sit and watch them yeah, yeah, but this is.
Speaker 1But you also get like abc new york, abc chicago, abc los angeles, so you're getting all these news.
Speaker 2So we won't ever watch any of that either that's fine, that's fine but we don't watch tv a lot anymore.
Speaker 1That's our point with getting rid of spectrum is because the only thing that I and if I ever watch, which is very seldom, I watch fox news, right yes I don't watch anything else. I don't know any channel. You couldn't tell me where. Hey, turn it on the hallmark channel you know espn I have no I I can hit that guy and kind of know kind of where it's at, but I don't, I guess.
Speaker 2I don't know the channel number, but I know about where it's at.
Speaker 1I've never learned them because I don't ever go on there. It's because we always do YouTube or Netflix and I'm always YouTube, yeah, but mainly Netflix. All right, long story short, getting back on track.
Speaker 2Well, so now we've got to find sports channels. How?
Speaker 1we're going to get our football. So the main reason was if there's so, if you know how we can get football channels?
Speaker 2comment below and let us know, because we tried the Disney thing and all that and that never worked. Disney Plus, or whatever it said, you're supposed to be able to get ESPN.
Speaker 1I can never get it to work. So Monday we are calling Spectrum doing away with that and I guess we'll just be boxing up whatever we've got of theirs.
Speaker 2I guess so.
Speaker 1Send it back, and oh well, so here's the deal We've got to keep the internet though. Yeah, so the internet's $60, $70, $80 by itself.
Speaker 2I think it's about $100.
Speaker 1See, this is crazy.
Speaker 2Yep.
Speaker 1We're paying for something and everybody else is doing the same thing.
Speaker 2Oh yeah.
Speaker 1There's no telling how many people out there is, like you know what, now that I think about it, I don't watch enough tv either to justify having it.
Speaker 2Hey, that's where we watch tv. We were still on our phones yeah since we're big into doing the making videos and stuff like that. So half the time he's making a video, I'm watching a video.
Speaker 1So yes, since we've got so much little things two podcasts, a business nail, business stuff like that. We're now constantly on video and something.
Speaker 2Never would have thought that about you, because you used to get on to me for being on my show.
Speaker 1The only thing I did was I got the GoPro. I got a GoPro a few years ago because I wanted, hey, I'm going to do nature stuff. I like feeding fish, ducks, that kind of thing. So in the summertime I will be out there, but I will set the camera down and just whatever happens happens, and then not even really edit it when I get it back. Basically, I'd put it out there on YouTube, on my channel, and then that's it. Wouldn't put any music to it, wouldn't?
Speaker 1edit it or nothing, but now that we're doing podcasts and that kind of thing. Now I'm trying to figure out how to edit, add music, all this kind of stuff and my goodness. And if you try and do a short for like YouTube or whatever, you're doing something for YouTube. Hey, now I need to go to TikTok and put it on that, but I got to change the format or whatever. You're doing something for YouTube? Hey, now I need to go to TikTok and put it on that, but I've got to change the format or whatever.
Speaker 1And then if you want to do Instagram and all that stuff. So, yes, it is so time-consuming that's not talking editing this thing that we're doing right now.
Speaker 2But you know, it's our little hobby, since we're in that season of where we don't have little kids anymore.
Speaker 1Yeah, he does his own thing and now we've found something for us to do, but I'm gonna you know this right now it's gotten so time consuming and since it's starting to warm up, it's gonna grass season is right around the corner and all that stuff I'm yeah, I'm going to back off some of this editing or something, because I'll never be able to get yard work done, and you know me, I like your I don't know if I could edit and cut the grass at the same time.
Speaker 2That can cut the grass, but I like it.
Speaker 1See you always say that. But I love I know you do.
Speaker 2But sometimes it'd be all right, no so so anyway.
Speaker 1So then, uh, so we did all that a week later, which would have been this Friday, because we were trying to decide after we did the antenna. We were trying all right. Now we've got to decide is it worth keeping the antenna, do we send it back and maybe just get rid of? We thought, hey, we'll get rid of Spectrum and try and find something else cheaper, but anyway. So we decided we're going to keep the the antenna. So I undid all the coax cable, ran everything the right way through, you know, under the house, redid wiring cables, all this kind of stuff got it just like it's supposed to be so that's done so.
Speaker 1Now is it sling.
Speaker 2I think so. I think, that's what we keep saying.
Speaker 1So now we're thinking, hey, in the future, if this ain't working out? And we've got a few channels we didn't realize we watched that. We really kind of miss that sling is only like 50 bucks. Yeah, so it's half so we can save half. Instead of going the whole shebang, at least we're cutting half of our bill in half, right? Right, because you're spending? We're spending way over $1,000 a year just on a spectrum that we really don't use.
Speaker 2YouTube's free. I don't think Nicholas ever watches it.
Speaker 1YouTube's free, unless you did the YouTube TV, which we did one time.
Speaker 2That you didn't like that.
Speaker 1I didn't like I think you didn't give it. Maybe not, but it's. It's gonna be 80 bucks, it is so not accomplishing anything. There's, you're getting up there close, um. So yeah, we're gonna try this out. So, starting after this comes out tomorrow, which is monday, we'll be going through the first week of not having any kind of uh cable slash satellite tv first time in 26 years yeah, so we'll see how that goes.
Speaker 1I think it'll be fine because, we still got, you know, our netflix and all that. So, speaking of netflix and hulu and Paramount and Prime, and see, we've got all that too. So if you start adding all that in with your spectrum, in with your internet, my goodness. And then you're paying for three phones, three and four phones. We've got four phones we're paying for, my goodness, that's how they get you, they got us. They got, us, they got you Can't get away from them phones.
Speaker 1Gotta have it. And then I get an email. No, it's a text. This dog I ain't got enough room for this dog right here, but I don't want to mess him up. Well, I woke him up, poor baby. Oh my goodness, what was I?
Speaker 2saying I don't know Anyway.
Speaker 1What was I saying? I had a good point.
Speaker 2Did you?
Speaker 1Yeah, what did I just end with?
Speaker 2My goodness, you got to email something.
Speaker 1Yeah, that's it. I got a text from Apple saying hey, your iPhone is paid for.
Speaker 2Oh well.
Speaker 1Now you're eligible for an upgrade.
Speaker 2No, and.
Speaker 1I'm like I'm doing the Donald Trump dance.
Speaker 2Oh no don't, don't, do it. They trying to drag you back in.
Speaker 1But the thing with that is so if you're going to get a phone, do you wait and say, hey, let's just wait till the fall, till the newest one comes out and get it. But I don't see enough changes in these phones. I don't either they're always messing with the camera, and that's the reason I got it, because I made videos and I can't tell a difference, yeah, from mine. So mine is like two or three years different than yours, probably three. Mine's a.
Speaker 2Yours is a.
Speaker 1It's a Pro Max, 12 Pro Max, and mine's a 16. Something yeah.
Speaker 2Yeah, and I don't see the difference.
Speaker 1But if we take the same video, put them side by side.
Speaker 2Sometimes yours is better. Yeah, I just feel like I've got some kind of setting.
Our Phone and Subscription Addiction
Speaker 1But you know, I've noticed too. It's just like when you use this audio through this microphone and then you use the video off the phone, I can put something on, say tiktok, and it's clear as a bell. Yeah, looks good yeah I go to youtube and do it. The sound quality is not there and the video looks terrible.
Speaker 2Yep, because I can video. I can be on a live on TikTok and it's fine, and even if you go back and watch the live, it's fine. But then if I do a live on Facebook and you post your live, then it looks grainy, so I don't know what the difference is there?
Speaker 1I don't know what the difference is there, I don't know which.
Speaker 2Now facebook is gonna delete your um videos after 30 days they're not keeping them why is that? I don't know, but yeah, 30 days no, is it?
Speaker 1what's it called real? Are you talking just the reels?
Speaker 2or what video alive like okay, you Alive. Okay, you're going to post.
Speaker 1Well, I was going to say, if you post a video, say like of graduation, that's a minute and a half long, surely? They're not because that's part of your. I don't know. No, that's part of your.
Speaker 2Timeline thing.
Speaker 1Yeah, if I want to go into somebody's Facebook page and scroll through and look, I mean, they're not going If you're posting a video you used to could choose to delete 30 days or never delete.
Speaker 2So I always chose never to delete because, well, in my business, a lot of it was educational videos, so I wanted that to stay on my page. But now you don't have the choice. You're deleting after it's deleting after 30 days. So there's that, wow, all right. So there's that, well, alright. So we was going to. You were trying to get us to Hulu and Netflix on what we watched yeah, we're going to go through what we've watched here lately, and is it?
Speaker 1we've watched two documentaries do you want to do Gabby? Sure is it Petito?
Speaker 2I don't know.
Speaker 1I think that's right yeah, that Is it Petito, I don't know. I think that's right.
Speaker 2Yeah, that's right.
Gabby Petito Documentary Review
Speaker 1Yeah, Petito, and then her fiance, Brian. I don't know. I don't remember his last name, so I'm sure everybody knows. Back in the news, it's been a couple years now that she went missing. She was a. Are you saying vlogger? I'm saying vlogger. Didn't you say blogger? Are you?
Speaker 2saying vlogger.
Speaker 1I'm saying vlogger, didn't you say blogger?
Speaker 2I said blogger, you said B, I'm saying V, but it's a, b. Okay, but I thought there was a thing as a blogger.
Speaker 1Yeah.
Speaker 2And a vlogger. So a vlogger is video and a blogger is just audio. You think yeah, maybe.
Speaker 1Vlogger is video. Yeah, vlogger.
Speaker 2But a blogger is there a blogger?
Speaker 1If I'm going to just be doing something and I'm going to put it on a YouTube channel, am I going to call it? I'm blogging. You're just following me, right? You're subscribing to my channel and watching me go through life A blogger is someone who writes regularly for an outline journal or website.
Speaker 2With someone who writes regularly for an outline journal or website, a political blogger might provide weekly commentary on current events. A personal blogger keeps a website which may include a diary like entries, photographs and links. So it's just like, yeah, and then you go to. Vlogger is a short video, vloggers is short for video bloggers.
Speaker 1You're a blogger, but you're videoing it.
Speaker 2Right, so now you're a vlogger.
Speaker 1Gotcha.
Speaker 2So there you go.
Speaker 1So that's what she was doing, yes, what Gabby was doing, her and her fiance. They had decided that they bought this small white van and they were going to basically camp and hike and do all that stuff and travel a little bit, not cross country, but they were, you know, just in the middle of like a desert type, just whatever you do if you go camping, you know, and that's all they do. And so she was going to start videoing and just keeping track of what they're doing and all that kind of stuff.
Speaker 2But he didn't like it.
Speaker 1You started to see the way the documentary showed was there's a little bit of a riff, I guess, since they were spending so much time together and there's no time apart, they weren't married yet together and there's no time apart, they weren't married yet, which is, I mean, it might have been different if they were married. And doing this because you're kind of prepared for that right being together every day maybe, but you started to see a little bit of pressure.
Speaker 1He, he wasn't into it and she's trying to do the best she can. So if she's trying to make a living, out of it.
Speaker 2She was trying to get this built up, so when she started her page she's trying to make a living out of it.
Speaker 1She was trying to get this built up so when she started her page she could get this following and uh, yeah, he just wasn't in on it and I think kind of made fun of her, some of the stuff like that. But she's really trying. So anyway, she ends up going missing. He ends up he's back home with his parents and now they're trying to find her. The cops go to his house where his parents are asking questions and the parents all of a sudden are like you can talk to our lawyer. More or less words, but that was included. They're not answering any questions and they do say, hey, you can talk to our lawyer. So then that's like red flag, red flag. What's up with this? Your son's come home, gabby's disappeared, we're trying to find Gabby and the van and all this stuff, and your first thing out of your mouth is talk to our lawyer. Guilty right.
Speaker 2Right, you think.
Speaker 1Yeah, right, so you think yeah. So eventually you know he, he goes uh hiking out on his own, goes missing. He's missing for a while. They find him dead. He he'd uh. So the parents in jail no, but they should be because they found they were, because they found a note and the mom had wrote something about, even if just trying to protect him, that's what it was all about they're trying to protect him they found a note how far do you go to protect?
Speaker 1she said something like even if it takes me getting a shovel and burying her or something along that line, but a shovel she wrote something about if it takes me using a shovel, something like that, and it's like my goodness. So they knew. There's no question now, whatever excuse that he might have not have told her his parents the truth. He might have said hey, we're out hiking. She fell. I got scared, thinking that they might blame me for it, and I took her out and buried her. You know he might have told them that and then they're like which?
Speaker 1then they should have been like okay, we're getting a lawyer, but we're going you know, to the police because you've got to tell them, but instead I think they're more like okay, we'll get a lawyer, keep your mouth shut, and we're going to do whatever it takes to keep this hush-hush and cover your tracks. That's what it seemed like they were doing.
Speaker 2Yeah.
Speaker 1So poor girl man, I tell you.
Speaker 2You just never know.
Speaker 1Yeah. You just never know, but it was like a four-part series. Was it Hulu? No, it was Netflix, that was on Netflix.
Speaker 2That one was Netflix.
Speaker 1yeah, They've got one on Hulu, but I think it's a one episode, but it's going to be the same thing.
Speaker 2Oh, yeah, yeah about that.
Speaker 1Yeah, but it was pretty good.
Speaker 2Actually, when I looked at it, it was older.
Speaker 1Oh was it.
Speaker 2It was an older one, I think it said 22.
Speaker 1Mm-hmm.
Speaker 2Is that right? No, because it ain't been that long, has it?
Speaker 1She was killed two or three years ago. Okay, so yeah. And another one we watched was Devil in the Family, isn't that right?
Speaker 2Yeah.
Speaker 1And it's a.
Speaker 2Ruby Frank.
Speaker 1Ruby Frank.
Speaker 2It's a mom Vlogger.
Speaker 1Is she considered a vlogger?
Speaker 2She started as a blogger, okay, I think.
Speaker 1Did they ever say what platform she was mainly on? I don't think they did. Was she YouTube?
Speaker 2I don't know.
Speaker 1It wouldn't be TikTok, because this is just a yeah, I don't. Tiktok hadn't really taken off the last two years right.
Speaker 2TikTok's been out since COVID. Okay, well, yeah, off the last two years, right? Tiktok's been out since covid. Okay, well, yeah, that's when people started getting hot and heavy on tiktok because you'd have nothing else to do yeah, so but with her was this right about that time or right before, I don't remember.
Speaker 1I don't remember the dates on that yeah, I don't remember that. So she got to where she wanted to start videoing her family and then it got to where, basically, she had her phone out videoing.
Speaker 2She was obsessed with it.
Speaker 1Everything Everybody was doing and expected everybody to be on cue, have a smile on their face, say what they're supposed to say. It got to where it was basically staged it got to where it was basically staged. Yeah, you know and you know if she didn't like the way you looked or the way your smile didn't look right or whatever, she was getting on to the kids and you're going to do it again. And it just got worse.
Speaker 2And she put that video out there. That's what I don't understand. Like, if you're getting, if I'm getting on to my kid, remember, I'm gonna cut that part out of the video right I'm not gonna put that out.
Speaker 1I don't want you to say that I'm getting on to my kids well, that was several years in the two oldest yeah, at first they all started out, it was fine but two of the oldest kids that once they became teenagers, all of them had finally gotten, hey, we're done with this, we're tired, we don't want to do this, we just want to live life. If we go on vacation, we want to do stuff and enjoy it, not be scripted on what we're supposed to say and what we're doing, looking like a happy, happy family, um. But so when the kids got older, they were like you know, we're done with it. And so she turns on the oldest boy and sends him they meet. She finds this psychologist which she really wasn't a psychologist named Jody, and basically goes to one of her little seminars or whatever and just really eats this up and then starts this long process of like almost like retraining her husband and her son.
Speaker 1It was like they were just against men. It seemed like yeah, totally so then the dad gets brainwashed, somehow, falls into this trap of where he needs to be. What's the word I'm looking for? Reprogrammed?
Speaker 2yeah, like for the most part so to me it's totally backwards like you're supposed to follow the husband if you're, you know bible or whatever you know and they were in the. They were in the church church, but not right yeah or well, and our what we feel is right.
Speaker 1They believe a little bit different yeah, they did believe different.
Speaker 2So I mean, like to us the husband is here and then, damn well, it's the lord right, and so that's what took me, like you're not going to follow me, like that or whatever. Like the way we do it, you know, I follow what you're going to do and not I mean now you'll do what I want to do. But I'm saying, like, in that sense, I just don't feel like there's a way that I could brainwash you. I can talk you into doing some things, but you're going to stand your ground when it comes to something like that.
Speaker 1So, and the point you're getting to is that he gets forced out of the house. Yes, he's moved into an apartment and she's telling him that once I call you, once I communicate back with you, that will be your. Okay, you can come back home to your family right and so he leaves, stays in his apartment, has no contact with anybody no friends, no, nothing.
Speaker 2And like he.
Speaker 1He doesn't attempt to try and even call them or anything.
Speaker 2He barely goes out, he just he becomes a hermit. I actually think it said something like that.
Speaker 1Yeah.
Speaker 2Like he becomes a hermit and I don't know. I just don't get it. I don't get how, how don't get it. I don't get how you can do that.
Speaker 1Yeah.
Speaker 2I just feel like I would stand my ground or you would stand your ground.
Speaker 1Yeah. So then the oldest boy that's in college at this point tries to get a hold of his dad because of a situation we'll talk about in a second, and the dad doesn't even answer. Now this is the son talking on this part of he's being interviewed and then he says, right after he tried to call him, his dad didn't answer, and then he saw where he was blocked his dad blocked his number. And I'm like what is up with that? You haven't heard from your son, or nobody in over a year. He's now trying to call you. Maybe something's up, maybe he just finally wants to say hey, you know. And shouldn't he be like, hey, this has long gone on, long enough yeah, I'm gonna talk to my kids.
Speaker 1I mean, you guys stand your ground but this is because of what happened was now they're finding out that the two youngest kids how many many kids is it? Is it six?
Speaker 2I'm pretty sure there was six.
Speaker 1Two of them is living with Jody, the so-called psychologist, and Ruby Ruby, because Ruby's moved out of the house.
Speaker 2Jody owns like a compound.
Speaker 1Yeah, she's made all kinds of money apparently from her little seminars. And then the two oldest are off to different colleges and then the two middle-aged ones are at their friend's house.
Speaker 1Yeah, but their regular house is about to sell, I guess. But anyway they're at their friend's house. So anyway, this youngest boy that's staying at Jody's house knocks on the person's door, actually hits their ring doorbell, and they've got video footage of this and they've got his face blocked out, of course, so you can't see him. An older man comes out there and he's like the kid's, like can you do me a favor and notify the police? And the guy goes out there and starts talking to him. Long story short, he's got duct tape around his ankles and around his wrists. He's got duct tape around his ankles and around his wrists.
Speaker 1He's escaped from this lady's house where they basically kept him in captivity in a room in like a safe room that's like down in the basement, and he's malnourished, he's skinny, there's a rail, all this kind of stuff. So they go, you know, once all this is done, the police go over to do a wellness check on that other kid and they're going in to find his sister. And they go in and they're looking and looking. They finally find her and she's about the same thing and she's scared to death. But then when they go down in the basement, in this little safe place spot. There is a safe. It looks like a big gun cabinet built into the wall and it just so happens they guessed the combination and they, when they opened it up and went in there, it was like a, a common combination too.
Speaker 1Yeah, it was one, two, three, four, five, six, yeah, something like that. How? Crazy yeah, because she wasn't giving out the combination. So when they opened it up, it's just a room and it's a bathroom, it's got cabinets and all this kind of stuff. But that's where they found galls and bloody rags and stuff, where they've cleaned his wombs around his wrist from where they've been doing this for so long.
Speaker 1That's horrible so and going and and going back to this. So the mom ruby she has, she's been apparently brainwashed to believe that her kids, those two youngest kids, were possessed or that they were demons, and if it took killing them, that's what she was going to do to get the demons out of them. And then they said, like the youngest boy, he would have to stay out in the hot sun on a trampoline Hours and, like, jump on the trampoline for hours or go over here and stand for hours or do this or whatever. It is Just crazy stuff, crazy.
Speaker 2Now that I think about it, I wonder if this is the only family she did that to, I mean because they're both in jail now.
Speaker 1Yeah, I bet that Nobody took it this far. Well, you know how you can get a following. Yeah, you go back to like Charles Manson and all that stuff. Now when Charles Manson drugs were involved Right, you had some of the people that was in his little group were average people. Once they got on these drugs and stuff, that's when they turned crazy and started falling. So I'm not saying drugs was a part of this I'm just saying is this jody person?
Speaker 1she had an influence over all these people, but you will have those one or two that might have more of an influence over, and that's what this well, at one time didn't the kids or the dad or something, say that you would think they had a relationship going on? Maybe, so that's what I I thought it was women. I thought it was gonna, I thought it was leading down that path and I think probably so I'm pretty sure that the older kids said something about that.
Speaker 1They acted just like they had a relationship going on yeah so I don't know, I can see that I mean that's, that's the impression I got they never actually. Yeah, yeah it never came out that they were a couple but you saw them having fun together and stuff right and then they moved in together, yeah. So I mean yeah, but it was just crazy, I don't know but we like documentaries.
Speaker 2Yeah, or I don't know, is that a documentary really?
Speaker 1that's not well, I mean kind of just yeah, you can call it that so that's what we've been doing so devil in the family when we find time to watch it after. We just said we don't watch much tv it's american murder, the gabby Petito story on Netflix and then Devil in the Family that's on Hulu. So it's pretty good.
Speaker 2It's something to watch.
Speaker 1But then the dad still says that he loves his wife, even though she did all this to him and to his kids.
Speaker 2I just can't get over how a dad would say that but he is getting a divorce from her now right. At the end it said he was getting a divorce.
Speaker 1He filed for divorce. Yeah, that's good. I guess, Well, I would think so.
Speaker 2I would have thought you'd already done it.
Speaker 1It's hard to. How do you trust someone again, when they're attempting to slowly kill? Killing your kids is bad enough, but this, right here, you're slowly killing these two kids right by not feeding them and putting them in this, you know, of course.
Speaker 2I can't imagine, yeah, so alright but I don't know what's up.
Speaker 1We've got a few other things on our radar to watch. I don't remember the names of them now, but we go.
Speaker 2It takes us a little while to watch them yep, I don't remember the names of them now, but we go flipping.
Speaker 1It takes us a little while to watch them. Yeah, but that's it. Anything else Now we?
Speaker 2probably won't watch with the daylight savings time that you love so much.
Speaker 1I know.
Speaker 2You'll be outside, I know.
Speaker 1We'll be popping from the carpet, but I'm just messed up just today, like you get up and you know it's like I don't feel like it bothered me. Yeah, it did me a little bit.
Speaker 2I don't know Anyway.
Speaker 1It will this evening, when it's still daylight outside.
Speaker 2Yeah, it'll be different and it's 6 o'clock, right.
Speaker 1You know, and then it'll keep getting longer. Days will get longer and longer and longer.
Speaker 2So Maybe we can kayak this summer and we'll have them some videos of kayaking.
Speaker 1Yeah, so if you'll keep an eye on our TikTok, this, that and other we'll, we'll start putting just regular videos. We're doing all this, you know, kind of like flea market type stuff too. And we've got just little odds and end videos that we do.
Speaker 2If you have a suggestion of flea markets or antique stores or whatever, like well, y'all don't know where we live, but I'm not going too far. I can't get him to go too far.
Speaker 1We need to go back to Scottsboro to.
Speaker 2Yeah, we do need to go there.
Speaker 1Unclaimed baggage.
Speaker 2We haven't been there in about a year we could go there.
Speaker 1That's a once a year spot, once or twice.
Speaker 2Sometimes we go twice, once in the spring and once in the winter or fall, something like that. Yeah, don't go when they have a ski sale, though.
Speaker 1Yeah, whatever day that was, that might be this time.
Speaker 2Actually this time of year.
Speaker 1I don't think so. No, because it's summer.
Speaker 2They were going right there at the fall, was it not when the ski sale started, when the sale? Oh well, yeah, maybe, maybe it was later october-ish.
Speaker 1Yeah, maybe, I can't remember anyway, because I don't think we told that story. It's like we we decided to go there yeah, our first time right.
Speaker 1So we got there and so there's food trucks. So you're just in a town, just a regular small town, and of course you're gonna have like a store, and this is what this is a big store. So you're around the corner and everything, and all of a sudden you see food trucks and then you see like all these cars and then you see like flagmen like waving you into these parking lot behind the store, and then you see golf carts where they're taking people to the front door and I'm like goodness, this place does some business. So we get there, we park.
Speaker 2But we haven't told them what unclaimed baggage is. Some people may not know what that is.
Speaker 1We'll get to it in a second. How about that?
Speaker 2Or the next episode?
Speaker 1No, let's just finish this and then we can talk about it. So we got parked. The guy tells us you know where to park, pulls us in, we get out, there's a golf cart that comes and picks us up. So we're riding with him up to the front door and he said Sarah, y'all here for the ski sale. And in my mind I'm like excuse me, because I didn't know what that meant. Yeah, I thought I'm like am I misunderstanding? Is that one word you know what letters? Is that Ski sale? I don't know what that is, not knowing that this is the busiest day of the year for them when they have a ski sale, meaning cold weather, skiing right, all the peril and all that kind of stuff. So everybody and their brother apparently comes out on that day. So the first time we want to go to there is the day that they have the sale. And, my goodness, it was bumper to bumper inside, wasn't it?
Speaker 2yeah, it was, so you could not hardly move it, but the next time we went, it was oh, it was fine. Yeah, it's been several times.
Speaker 1Yeah, yeah, yeah just don't go on that day. Yeah, all right, we got to get out of here. Yeah, check us out on TikTok, on Facebook, instagram, youtube If you want to see these videos. I think this video that we're videoing right now, I think it ended again. I don't think I've got, but like 13 minutes into this and the video ended. So I don't know.
Speaker 2Maybe you'll get a video.
Speaker 1Maybe you'll get a video.
Speaker 2Maybe you won't, maybe we'll just make a video If you're wanting to you, think I can get him to dance in a TikTok video, maybe so If they follow us, we could do a funny challenge video.
Speaker 1Yeah, we can do that.
Speaker 2Some kind of video out there maybe.
Closing Thoughts and Future Plans
Speaker 1So my point being is like we're talking this up to go to YouTube and watch this video. So if you're listening to this, then you're going to go there. Don't get too excited, because I don't know exactly how much of this episode got recorded. We'll release how much got in there, but it's not going to be the full thing. So, all right, we appreciate you. You got anything else? No, sir. All right, appreciate you listening and we'll see you next time. See ya, bye. I don't know what I was saying.
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