This That And The Other
This That And The Other
53. Hotel Rules, Traffic Jams, Nail Wall Project, And More
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We question why some hotels refuse local guests, then shift into a fast, budget-friendly nail wall build that becomes a studio backdrop. We break down the famous phantom traffic jam study and invite listeners to shape future topics while teasing a strange rat utopia story.
• hotel policies for locals and the logic behind them
• trade-offs between risk management and real needs
• step-by-step approach to building a nail wall
• simple layout principles for clean display design
• how content shifts across TikTok, Instagram and YouTube
• the circular traffic experiment and phantom jams
• human behavior as the root of congestion and system strain
• preview of a rat utopia study and social breakdown
• request for listener questions and topic ideas
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Welcome back, episode fifty-three. It's me, Jody, and it's Amanda. Amanda. Appreciate you being here. Appreciate you listening. Uh check us out everywhere. TikTok, Facebook, all that stuff. We try and put some stuff out there. Hadn't done it in a while. If you go to our TikTok account, just uh if you see a lot of fish and stuff, that's just because I've kind of taken over the account doing some uh crazy stuff. So that does not mean that's all it'll be, but that's what it looks like.
SPEAKER_01He thinks he's just took over.
Can Locals Book Hotels
SPEAKER_02So if you scroll through, you'll see the first 10, 15, 20 videos were us doing the podcast, and then now the other ones were catfish videos and cat videos and all that stuff. But um Yeah, a question I just I thought about a minute ago was did we ever find out, you know, why can you not rent a hotel if you live in that same city? If you've got this an address like within so many miles of that hotel. What now? Do you remember like if you were gonna rent a room at a hotel? Okay. When you give your ID if you have a local ID, if your address is like so many miles within that hotel, you can't rent a room. Why is that?
SPEAKER_01I don't know.
SPEAKER_02I wish you'd leave your microphone. You can't hear it, but I do. It's you're tapping on it and it's kind of noise. Amanda does not wear headphones. I don't like headphones.
SPEAKER_01So she I wasn't wearing headphones because we were videoing.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_01When we first started podding.
SPEAKER_02You really need a I mean, because you can tell a big difference.
SPEAKER_01Uh you can't tell a difference.
SPEAKER_02Yeah. That way you know if you're getting out of the mic.
SPEAKER_01I'm not out of the mic. I am eating the mic.
SPEAKER_02I know. Well, you said. But do you not remember us?
SPEAKER_01I do, but I don't know where this is going. Yeah, but I can't remember about it.
SPEAKER_02You don't know where this is going. Yeah. I just told you, I just thought about it.
SPEAKER_01I know, but like I remember it, we've talked about it, but why? Like, where did it come from? Maybe that's where I'm going. Where did it come from?
SPEAKER_02The previous time we talked about it?
unknownYeah.
SPEAKER_02Where did it come from? I don't I don't remember. I didn't know we'd talked about it on the podcast.
SPEAKER_01No, I don't think on the podcast, no, no. I think in gener like, why did this come up?
SPEAKER_02The original time?
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_02I don't know.
SPEAKER_01Cause I know we have discussed it.
SPEAKER_02Did it have something to do with church? That's what I wonder now. Rent rooms for uh we had some artists, maybe some singers, some bands or whatever coming to the church and we couldn't because of the I don't I don't what sense does that make though?
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_02Um your money is no good here because you live too close, sorry. Well, if you got a vacant room.
SPEAKER_01You can't just rent a room. Uh if you live here, you can't just rent a room.
SPEAKER_02So if say my house burned down, I have no family.
SPEAKER_01I know that's not right because when my mom stayed with us for a little while, and then she's like, you know, we we were getting her moved into a new house. And remember, she's like, I'm just going to stay in a hotel. And she went and stayed in a hotel. So that can't be right.
SPEAKER_02Is this a new thing, maybe?
SPEAKER_01I don't know. Because don't you remember that? She I don't. Yeah. She went and stayed in the hotel because she didn't want to stay with us. I don't know why. I don't know. Cause cause we don't let her smoke.
SPEAKER_02Oh, I think that's what it was.
SPEAKER_01She needs to smoke. We don't let her smoke. You gotta go outside. Well, you can't smoke in a hotel, can you? Depends, I guess. Not the rooms that well, yeah, you can.
SPEAKER_02Because they have smoking rooms. Is it easier to walk outside at a hotel than it would be to walk outside on the front door?
Age Limits And Booking Rant
SPEAKER_00I don't know why she did that, but she did. She wouldn't stay with us.
SPEAKER_02Let's see what this is. Yes, you can generally rent a hotel room in your own city, but it depends on the hotel's specific policy. As many have rules against renting to locals due to concerns about uh disturbances, uh illicit activities like parties and prostitution, or to avoid being known as an affair hot spot. However, many hotels will make exceptions for legitimate needs like home renovations emergencies, such as fire, plumbing issues, or uh staycations, especially if you explain your situation directly.
SPEAKER_01Heck goes the lights again.
SPEAKER_02To the front desk. Yes, the TV switched off for a second and came on and I got scared again. So reasons hotels might refuse preventing unwanted activities, like I said, such as parties, drug use, prostitution, hotels, they restrict locals. Negative perception, hotels don't want to gain a reputation for uh facilitating affairs. Uh, and to uh ensure guest safety and security for all visitors. Well so you're not gonna be as safe as you if you let locals stay there. I look everybody's trying to make money on whatever you do. If I own a hotel or you want to rent a room, I'm renting it to you. I'm not asking you, I'm not giving you the third degree. And why are you renting this?
SPEAKER_01Is it any of your business?
SPEAKER_02That's what I'm saying. But I guess that's why they're not gonna say it's like a giving to you've got a service, I've got money.
SPEAKER_01Even if I live here, I should be able to rent a room.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_01Wherever.
SPEAKER_02So there's uh yeah, there's definitely all kinds of uh things right here coming up from me typing this in this little box. So I just found that strange. I don't know. I don't know why I thought of that.
SPEAKER_01I feel like we've talked about that before, but I don't know. Maybe we've talked about that. But I feel like something came up, like there was a reason we talked about it.
SPEAKER_02But I don't You have to be you gotta be a certain age, yeah.
SPEAKER_01You do gotta be a certain age, yes. We know that.
SPEAKER_02Is it it's just 21?
SPEAKER_01No. Or 24. Mm-hmm.
SPEAKER_02All right, well, explain to me that why you're just not tr trustworthy at twenty-one.
SPEAKER_01I don't know. I mean, we let you drink at 20.
SPEAKER_02We let you drink, we let you smoke.
SPEAKER_01You can go to the water, we let you go to war, yeah.
SPEAKER_02We let you carry a gun and kill people.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_02But by golly, we're not gonna let you rent this single room hotel for$119 a night. Sorry.
SPEAKER_01I guess not. Oh, there's Jody's ramp for today.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, I had to have some Pepsi to cool.
Weekend DIY Nail Wall
SPEAKER_01All right, so I don't know if I ever told you um thank you for my project this weekend. This past weekend.
SPEAKER_02That's right. You know, that's something definitely you could talk about, you know, and that's something we need to post. Uh I need to pull up. We did a uh, I'll let you know the video we took a video of the project that she's about to tell you about, and uh I did like a time-lapse thing to where it was like an hour and a half long video to where it's gonna be from start to finish. That it it really got put together really fast.
SPEAKER_01That's what like I've been talking about it, and nobody can believe that it didn't take longer than an hour and a half to do.
SPEAKER_02Right. So go ahead and uh explain what you wanted, what your idea was or where you saw it at, and then you can go from there. Well and I'll try not to butt in when you mess up scene.
SPEAKER_01So if you've if you've been here since last year, then you know I'm in the nail business. Um so at what's called the tree house, that's where like the main happening goes on with red aspen nails.
SPEAKER_02If you start talking about nails, I'm gonna go over and just take a nap. Just wake me up when you're not.
SPEAKER_01Um so the tree house has what's called a nail wall, where they have just put nails, fingernails. That sounds weird. Packs of press on nails, let's say it that way. I don't like fingernails. Um press on nails, they've put the boxes, the packages, like on the wall. So it's called a nail wall. And several ambassadors have made nail walls at home, and I've been wanting, been wanting, been wanting one, and um so we finally done it this weekend, and I love it. So I had the fake grass greenery type stuff behind me for my uh backdrop, which was harder for me to install. Yeah.
SPEAKER_02And then because we put uh we had lights. You ran lights. We ran lights all through it, and then you had two little neon signs that we put on there.
SPEAKER_01Now I would like to put the neon signs back up.
SPEAKER_02I'm sure you do.
SPEAKER_01I think that would be good, look good at the top of the nail wall. Yeah. One of my uh red aspen friends, she done one, and so I sent her, I said, How did you do it? And she told me and she sent a video of it, and I showed Jody, and he's like, Okay, this is what we gonna do. And he made it happen. I love it now. Like when I go in that room, I just I don't know, I just love it.
SPEAKER_02So all we did was we've got it's an eight-foot piece and that's like one inch when I go live now. Yeah. It's like quarter inch by one inch pieces of wood.
SPEAKER_01Is it molding?
SPEAKER_02Yeah, you could say you could say that. But it's already painted white. A little bit more expensive than we wanted to spend. I was hoping that we could get in there under like 40 bucks.
SPEAKER_01That was my thought. And I almost I didn't really want to go over fifty because I mean, really, why? You know, I mean, that was good enough, I thought. But nothing we found. Oh, so when I was talking about it, somebody said they were gonna use something bored. Um, I said I was gonna remember this.
SPEAKER_02Well, I can go ahead and explain it.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, go ahead.
SPEAKER_02So so basically you you we put one one piece, you know, horizontal.
SPEAKER_01Mm-hmm.
SPEAKER_02Say a little bit, I get what, thigh high, maybe on the wall.
SPEAKER_01Oh, and I have thought that we can go another row below the way it shows in my videos. Right. I could go ahead and do one more below. And like nobody can believe how big it is. The piece of wood we got was perfect. Like we didn't I it could have been smaller, but then we would have to cut the wood, we'd have to paint the end of it, and we lifted the length that it was and it fit perfect where I wanted it.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, I made a shelf for you and we butted this up against that shelf and it extended all the way down right to where a light switch, like half an inch.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, right to the light switch.
SPEAKER_02So we just thought that's that was just so yeah, you put one, we put like thigh high, maybe, you know, horizontal across. And then these nail packages, if you think about a deck of cards, what a deck of cards come in, that's kind of the same stuff. Yeah, a little bit longer, but yeah. Yeah. So you're just sitting, they sit perfect on top of that board. Then you put another, you know, board on top of it, nail it in, and do the same thing. And in no time, and then Amanda, you know, it's like a a nail gun. It's a a Brad nailer, is what you call it.
SPEAKER_01Okay, so Amanda I kept telling people a an air nail gun. I didn't know what it was called.
How We Built It Fast
SPEAKER_02Yeah, because it's you got an air compressor. Yeah, so I mean that's why I thought it was an electric nail gun.
SPEAKER_01I don't know. Well, it's not electric, is it? Well, I don't know.
SPEAKER_02It runs off air. I mean, you use electricity.
SPEAKER_01I was trying to I was trying to explain this to women. So I mean, I didn't know.
SPEAKER_02So I guess briefly, I guess that was probably the hardest part was dragging that stuff down into that room. And then we'd put down that. But that wasn't hard. I'm just saying.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. And then and then when we finally figured out, when I said, Can I nail it? And then you're like, Oh yeah, you do that, and I can do this, and it like went a lot faster.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, because we if we'd have done that. We put one board, it was nailed, we put a few packs of nails on top of that one, set a board on top of it, made sure that she could pull the nail in and out, yeah, either package easily.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, because they go in and out easy. Like everybody wants to know how making them stay up there. And I'm like, it I got they just the tension well the I got you, yeah. Okay.
SPEAKER_02So anyway, so you we put a pack, you put the nails on there, the packs of nails, just a few, two or three, put the board on top of it, make sure that it's nice and cozy and not real tight or anything like that. Then put a level on top of it just to make sure we're staying level the whole time. And so I was doing all that and she was just helping hold the board. So then when she started using the Brad nailer and actually doing the nailing, it freed me up to where I just kind of work in in front of her and she's coming down the line just k- you know, going. And so we had how many is it, nine shelves you could call it?
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, we uh did that, and then we threw nails on there. I mean, I was like bam, bam, bam, throwing it on there, and then done.
SPEAKER_01And like me, I was over here trying to make a pattern with it, and then Jody's just throwing them up there, and and so I actually liked his idea better because I was gonna try to pattern it.
SPEAKER_02No, you just randomly put it all up there and have the colors, just try and keep don't have colors the same side by side, just mix it all up and I was putting colors side by side.
SPEAKER_01Because the ones I have saw, they do that. They go from like a dark to a light color, you know, like away. Um, and I liked it like that. But then now seeing the way it is now, I like it like that.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, so now your backdrop is when you do videos as well.
Sharing Pics And Going Live
SPEAKER_01Yeah, when I do lives on TikTok, yeah.
SPEAKER_02So we'll what what we'll do is I'll get Amanda to get her video or some pictures and we'll put it on Instagram. You can do that. We put it on our the Instagram account so you can see it.
SPEAKER_01So it is it's pretty neat.
SPEAKER_02If you follow me, it's already been on Instagram, but Yeah, but if you go to this, that, and other podcast on Instagram, we'll have it on there.
SPEAKER_01Or if you're interested in press on nails, comment below.
SPEAKER_02Yeah. By the way, and I mean to do this every time, but you can text the show. There should be an uh on the uh homepage or whatever when you go to Spotify, Apple Podcast, wherever it is, it should say on there text the show. You click on that and then text a comment, a suggestion, anything like that. That'd be easy peasy. Yeah. Send us questions. That's a neat uh option.
The Phantom Traffic Jam Study
SPEAKER_01I'd I'd like to take viewer questions. Yeah. Viewer. I guess you're not a viewer, a listener, my bad. Listener questions.
SPEAKER_02I tell you what, if uh if you listen to this, if you would do us a favor and go to YouTube and follow us, once we get enough followers, we'll start doing it. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01You don't have to have many, because I can already do lives over there. You only have to have 50.
SPEAKER_02Oh really?
SPEAKER_01Yeah, I think so.
SPEAKER_02Okay.
SPEAKER_01I think it's just fifty.
SPEAKER_02So Well, I don't think we're there.
SPEAKER_01Are we not?
SPEAKER_02No, because I don't ever put anything on. I don't think. I don't know if I don't know the last time I've been on that thing. But I'm just saying if we had if we got it, we'll start doing lives.
SPEAKER_01That would be fun. I think that would be fun. Yeah.
SPEAKER_02We'll definitely follow us on TikTok.
SPEAKER_01We can do them there.
SPEAKER_02Yeah. Um Well see, I don't know, because on the TikTok now I've got all these people that want to see fishing stuff.
SPEAKER_01I think they'll hang.
SPEAKER_02You'll get people. They'll they'll all just start dropping.
SPEAKER_01Oh, they won't. You'll get people. All right. What else you got? You got a story today? I do.
SPEAKER_02I do. I just gotta look it up. I gotta find one.
SPEAKER_01You're supposed to be ready. I got it. It's right here. You got it? Oh. You lost it. There it is. There it is. Okay, here we go. All right. So if you listen to This is Jody's TED Talk.
SPEAKER_02Yeah. If you listen to our last episode, which was episode 52, because this one's 53. Um, we talked about I was gonna do a uh story on a study of cars driving in a circle just to see what would happen. What do you think would happen? All right, this is how many cars? All right, we got twenty-two cars. They're gonna be going, I think it's I'm not looking at my notes yet. I think it's eighteen like point six miles an hour. That's their speed, and they're just gonna do a circle. Just a constant circle.
SPEAKER_01Wow.
SPEAKER_02To see human reaction, how what's gonna happen? Are we all gonna be going 18.6 miles an hour and be hunky dory, never have to hit the brakes? I'm ten feet behind the person in front of me. We're just doing the circle, everything's fine. Well, I'm getting tired of doing this. I'll be glad when it's over with, and then when they say stop, and we stop. Is that what we think's gonna happen? Sounds good. But it sounds like it should, right?
SPEAKER_01Yeah, but I don't think that's how it works.
SPEAKER_02But you don't think that's how it works?
SPEAKER_01I don't think so. Okay.
SPEAKER_02All right, so uh a famous 2008 Japanese study demonstrated that cars driving driving in a circle will get jammed up into a phantom traffic jam due to driver reaction times, even without obstacles, showing how small variations amplify into slowdowns that move backwards like a wave. This happens because one driver slightly breaks uh breaking, slightly breaking causes the next to break harder, creating a cascading effect uh proving congestion streams excuse me. No, let me start over. Proving congestion stems from human behavior and traffic density, not just external causes like accidents. So basically they're they're saying it's not outside forces that are causing traffic jams, it's actual the person driving the car. You feel me?
SPEAKER_01I feel you.
Teasing The Rat Utopia Story
SPEAKER_02All right. So here's the set of researchers placed 22 cars on a circular track and instructed drivers to maintain a constant speed of thirty kilometers, which is roughly eighteen point six miles, but we'll say nine. That's weird miles per hour. I think that's right. Let me see if I can read my notes in the dark. 18.6 miles per hour, that's right. All right. Uh initial flow traffic moves slowly at first. Then the jam. Small differences in speed or braking, even just a tap on the brakes caused cars to bunch up. Next was the shock wave. This slowdown propagated backwards through the line of cars as a wave, even as the cars at the front escaped the jam. Uh their key findings was the jam moved backwards at about 20 kilometers, matching real world observations and prove that congestion can emerge spontaneously from driver interactions. So, what it's saying is that it just because you think that we can maintain that steady speed, and but it's not, it's that one person that barely tapped their brakes because they were getting a little bit too close. The next one has to adjust and do the same thing, the next car behind them do the same thing.
SPEAKER_01Is that not common sense though? We really had to do a study on that.
SPEAKER_02But look, and then it finally works its way back around to the cars that were in the front that never affected them, and so now you've actually got a lot of people.
SPEAKER_01Do we not see that on the racetrack? Kind of.
SPEAKER_02Well, I think well, I mean, yeah, well, that causes wrecks when you watch the but they're just trying to it's different with them because they're trying to get in front of one another. So they're not trying to can uh keep the constant speed of their neighbor, whether whoever's in front of them or behind them, they're like, You're going to speed, I want to go faster. Okay. I'm trying to slingshot around you, you know, all that stuff. So but yeah, I see what you're trying to say. But I thought that was interesting because if you think about it, it's like, all right. You know, this could go with uh like say bicycles too, if you had the biker boys out there, you know, doing the circle riding bikes. You love bicyclers, by the way. Oh my goodness. You know, it would somebody once that one guy tap their brakes a little bit, yeah, it's gonna be just a a a chain reaction. So yeah. You would think they could just constantly move at the same speed and be fine.
SPEAKER_01But one little hiccup, one little second.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, and saying that messes it all up because bam, they everybody's slowing down, slowing down, slowing down, and then now you're trying to speed up to get caught by the same thing.
SPEAKER_01So I really don't see what the study was when we see this and other things.
SPEAKER_02They're just showing that it's human error error and there's no outside source like a wreck. Like if two cars wreck and then that's what's slowing everybody down. No, it's just humans being humans.
SPEAKER_00Gotcha.
unknownI think.
SPEAKER_02Because well it'd be different if you could if you could set your speed.
SPEAKER_01Cruise control.
SPEAKER_02Like a cruise control. That'd be a little bit different.
SPEAKER_01Well, I mean you can't you can't keep your foot right there in the same place for the same for a long time.
SPEAKER_02I know different if you're like if you're uh they have to put it on cruise control. Look, if you're on ten and two and you're doing everything and you're constantly like I'm trying to say the exact same distance away from the car. Yeah, there's you know, you're speeding up, you're slowing a little bit, you're speeding your slow and you know, just because you're trying to yeah, but then he taps his brakes. Once he taps his brakes, you're it's over. It's over for you because you're tapping your brakes. Yep. And it's over. I just thought that was neat. That's a neat little study.
SPEAKER_01Neat little study. Juddy likes his little studies.
SPEAKER_02I do like these little studies. When did we talk about the rats? I did one episode about the rat experiment. Like a utopia or rats. Can we do that on the next episode?
SPEAKER_01On the next episode, you can talk about your rats. Yeah, I'll write it down.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, I will give you a rats.
SPEAKER_01And I'll let you have the whole twenty minutes.
SPEAKER_02I'll give you a heads up. Yeah, it'll it won't take that long. Oh it uh just the heads up part of it is basically they did a study of of mice or rats, I don't know w which one it was, we'll say mice. We're given like a utopia. They were given enough food to survive, they were given shelter to survive, they were given water to survive, and they had they were, you know, kept in this container like thing. And they just after a while, it's like it just was it just got chaotic, put it that way. They just couldn't live together anymore. It got weird. So that also proved the thing that, you know, in a perfect world, you still it's not gonna be perfect. That's what they found out. You know, you had everything you needed to survive, and then uh it is really it's very interesting because it gets the psychological part about it, how some of these rats, and I hate to go in, I want to talk about it so bad.
SPEAKER_01Not today.
SPEAKER_02But but it talks about how uh I'll let you have all the floor next. Some of them, like the juvenile, like some of them started eating each other, like the the male rats would eat the juveniles because they felt threatened. Others were feeling about to go dark. Yeah. Others felt isolated and separated themselves from the crowd. I mean it was it was very neat. So Oh, I want to talk about it so badly.
SPEAKER_01Oh, we got him riled up on the rats.
SPEAKER_02I can't even remember what it's called.
SPEAKER_01It had a specific Well, you need to look it up. You need to get your facts straight.
SPEAKER_02Look, I had all these. I did it on the other.
SPEAKER_01Oh, if it's on the other, I don't want it.
SPEAKER_02No, no, no, no, no.
SPEAKER_01I don't want it.
SPEAKER_02No, I didn't do it on that one. I thought we did it on this one.
SPEAKER_01Rats?
Listener Stats And Wrap-Up
SPEAKER_02Yeah. I did it on the uh standalone when I did a standalone episode um with the other one. Yeah. I think that's what it was. All right. All right, check us out everywhere. Hey, we appreciate you listening. We've been gone a while, but the last the last few days we've saw the uptick on uh listens. So it was crazy. Crazy was happening. Somebody's listening.
SPEAKER_01Somebody.
SPEAKER_02Yeah. A bunch of northerners.
SPEAKER_01Welcome.
SPEAKER_02Welcome, northerners. What's pretty neat about this is, you know, because we uh we can see, you know, your address when you no, I'm just kidding. But we do Well there with listeners. Yeah, we do have a site that will actually tell you, you know, uh city and state and country where you get your downloads and your listens and all that stuff. So that's pretty cool to keep up with. So we've had uh five or six states in a couple of different countries the last three days. So that's pretty neat. But yeah, we appreciate you listening, and we'll check you out next week. We're gonna try and do two a week.
SPEAKER_01Or how about they check us out?
SPEAKER_02What did I say?
SPEAKER_00We'll check you out next week.
SPEAKER_02We'll check you out. Creepy. Sorry. Creepy. Yeah, I have an ad super. I guess I got food on my mind, maybe. All right, check us out. Twice a week, maybe.
SPEAKER_01Oh, he's asking a lot. He is asking a lot.
SPEAKER_02All right, everybody, have a good week. We'll talk to you later. Thanks.
unknownBye.
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