Salty Podcast #73🎙️Started Sailing 5 Years Ago⛵Now Across Atlantic Solo

What drives someone to leave everything behind and race solo across an ocean? Five years ago, Amber Hassan didn't know how to sail. Today, she's preparing to cross the Atlantic alone in one of sailing's most challenging races. Her journey from New York professional to offshore racer began during the pandemic when she escaped to the Florida Keys and discovered an unexpected passion that would completely transform her life.

Amber shares the pivotal moment when watching the Vendée Globe (a solo around-the-world race) sparked something deep within her despite having just learned basic sailing skills. "I was like, what is that? I want to do that," she recalls, despite her instructors pointing out she had just learned to tack the day before. This unwavering determination has defined her remarkable five-year journey.

The path hasn't been smooth. After working in boatyards to save money for her racing boat, she faced a devastating setback when her vessel was wrecked during her 1,000-mile qualifying voyage. The boat's keel pierced through the hull as waves pushed her onto rocks near port. Rather than give up, Amber channeled her frustration into helping fellow racers while planning her comeback with a new boat appropriately named "On The Road Again 2."

Now she's just weeks away from the start of the Mini Transat on September 21st – a race that will take her from France to the Canaries and eventually to Guadeloupe. Her 21-foot boat has no engine, no bed, and no toilet – just the essentials for survival and speed. "It's like camping," she explains of the minimalist offshore racing experience.

What makes Amber's story so compelling isn't just the rapid acceleration of her sailing career, but her perspective on pursuing dreams regardless of the conventional path. "If there's something you want to do and you're a little bit scared, the first step is the scariest part. After that, you'll just figure it out." Follow Amber's Atlantic journey on Instagram @amber_sails or support her final preparations through her GoFundMe page.

Chapters

• 0:00 From New York to Atlantic Crosser
• 13:42 The Mini Transat Racing Dream
• 25:55 Building Sailing Skills and Confidence
• 38:15 Boat Loss and Starting Over
• 55:43 Race Preparation and Technical Challenges
• 1:09:36 Finding Support and Future Plans

Transcript

Capn Tinsley: 0:03

Good morning. Five years ago, my guest didn't know how to sail. Now she's crossing the Atlantic solo. She is joining us live from the Mini Transit Base in France. She's a sailor who went from total beginner to taking on one of the boldest offshore challenges out there. Back in 2020, she left New York, ended up in the Florida Keys and stumbled into sailing. That's a good place to do that. That same year, a solo around the world race sparked something in her that changed everything. Since then, she's been all in offshore crewing, boatyard work, racing and solo cruising, all building toward one goal the 2025 mini-transit starting September 21st. But her path hasn't been smooth. She's faced major setbacks. She kept going. Now she's standing at the edge of the Atlantic, ready to go it alone.

Capn Tinsley: 0:53

This is a story of resilience, wild ambition and what it really takes to chase a dream across the ocean. But before we get underway, if you're enjoying this sailing content, please like, subscribe and share. It really helps grow the channel. I'm your host, captain Tinsley of Sailing Vessel Salty Abandoned and Island Packet 320. And this is the Salty Podcast, episode 73. Please help me. Welcome Amber Hassan. I want to make sure I'm saying that right. Hello, hello.

Ambre Hasson: 1:24

Hi, thanks for having me.

Capn Tinsley: 1:26

So how did you like that introduction?

Ambre Hasson: 1:27

That was pretty accurate yeah you really hit all the marks there. You've obviously done a bit of research, yes, so five years ago, you didn't know how to sail.

Capn Tinsley: 1:40

Now that you're about to cross the Atlantic, when did it shift from curiosity to a serious goal?

Ambre Hasson: 1:48

That's a good question. I mean so I think you know, during the pandemic I was still in New York but I found my way to Florida just because I needed a little space and I was originally trying to buy a sailboat. I don't know why I just wanted to buy a sailboat. I think we all had that urge during the pandemic yeah, a lot of people do. There was a lot of boats sold, even if we didn't really know how to sail or anything like that. There was just like a, a, an urge and uh, so I saw Craigslist at.

Ambre Hasson: 2:18

Uh, they were like selling a bunch of different boats. So I called them and they're like yeah, we have a bunch of boats like Cali and 22s or like slightly bigger cruising boats. And they asked me they're like but do you know how to sail? And I was like nope, have you ever lived on a boat? I was like no, they're like well, you know, actually, if you volunteer for us, we can teach you how to sail and you can live on a boat. And I'll never forget the first time I went sailing with my instructor Laurel. Uh, it was a revelation. I was like you're trying to tell me that, this invisible thing that's around us all the time. I can catch it in some piece of cloth and go, did you?

Capn Tinsley: 2:53

say you were at Key Lime Sailing Club yeah, yeah, I was too no way. I went there after I got 101 and 103. I was like a few years and I was like I don't remember anything. I didn't remember anything, I didn't say. You know, I went down there and they gave me a refresher course. So I'm going to go down there and if I like it, I'm doing it.

Ambre Hasson: 3:13

And after that I got a book. When did you go down there?

Capn Tinsley: 3:16

2014, 15.

Ambre Hasson: 3:19

Okay, so I don't know if we had the same instructors. I had Laurel and Barnard.

Capn Tinsley: 3:31

I don, we had the same instructors. I had laurel and barnard, I don't remember that name, but yeah, I really thought that was a great, that's a great deal.

Ambre Hasson: 3:33

Key lime sailing club, yeah, and it still got the old florida vibe. It's thinking like the atmosphere is great, everyone there is great, so it was a great place to learn. Um, and they ended up, uh, hiring me after my volunteering. I decided to go all in on sailing.

Capn Tinsley: 3:48

They hired you.

Ambre Hasson: 3:49

Yeah, I was like dockmaster slash, a bunch of other stuff, wow, okay, it was great. You know, I worked there but like all my free time I could just take a boat and go sailing and learn and test stuff out. But it was, yeah, I don't know, I there was like an impulse, uh, there was a need to go offshore, like I just wanted to go as far away from land as possible. It's something I couldn't really explain, the call of the horizon, I guess, uh, and so I told him I was like, look, I need to go and go offshore. So I, I crewed on a boat that was going from, uh, from Newport to no, not Newport from Virginia to the Bahamas, and so that was my first time offshore and I discovered what it was like to be out short.

Ambre Hasson: 4:34

And the more I kept going, the more I wanted to learn. I just, you know, then I wanted to have my own boat so I could make my own decisions, make my own mistakes, boat so I could make my own decisions, make my own mistakes, absolutely. And it just kind of went like that and little by little, you know, I did as much as I could in Florida and I guess I wanted more. You know I did offshore races from like Florida to Bahamas and I was like there's not enough going on. You know we're 200 people on one boat and we're going 200 miles. I think I want even more than this, yeah.

Capn Tinsley: 5:10

Yeah, you like being, you like having your own boat and being in. I like solo sailing. I do, or maybe with one other person, so, but I also saw a picture of you working in a boat yard. Which boat?

Ambre Hasson: 5:24

yard, was that, uh, some more. When I was, uh, when I lived in florida and decided to go all in on sailing, so I got a. Well, my first boat was a free boat. That was funny, uh, and quickly enough, you know, I had some savings, but I burned through those pretty quick, you know, when I decided to sort of like leave new york behind, you left the job, right, you had a job yeah yeah, oh yeah, yeah, I was, was.

Ambre Hasson: 5:46

I had a pretty comfortable life. You had an adult job. Yeah, I was doing adult things and thinking about my future. But the thing is, and you know, I think we all have a path in life and I think we should just follow what makes sense for us. I remember looking at my bosses in New York. I'm like, okay, so they make a lot of money, which is cool, and so they get to have a slightly nicer apartment and a slightly nicer car, but you still don't have the freedom to go really do what you want. You know, we get two weeks a year and I was like I, you know, and every time I got those two weeks, I would end up somewhere near the ocean, somewhere in the world, just trying to, you know, fulfill that adventure side of my personality. And I was like what if I make my whole life like an adventure driven life instead of getting two weeks out of the year? Yeah, I just didn't see myself there in 10, 15, 20 years.

Capn Tinsley: 6:38

That's so brave that really is. I mean, and you're seeing, we're seeing this more and more people doing this, carbonving their own paths. Yeah, it's like I don't want to fit in that mold. I'm going to go do something else and and, uh, and it's working for you, yeah.

Ambre Hasson: 6:56

So, yeah, it's, it's worked, it's been. It's hard, you know, trying to carve a new path. I mean, for me it's it's become sailing and becoming a professional sailor, but for someone it could be starting a baking business, it could be, you know, it could be anything. When you're stepping off that ledge, uh, into sort of uncharted territory, you don't really know what you're doing and you make a lot of mistakes.

Capn Tinsley: 7:17

Um, it's like walking into a dark room with you know he's like here we go. Is this going to work? Gonna work?

Ambre Hasson: 7:25

out, yeah, and your headlamp like doesn't have any more battery anymore.

Capn Tinsley: 7:28

You're like, oh man, yeah, but I'm gonna keep walking so I think it's just fascinating that in that five years you got your captain's license and did you take. You took all the courses too. I if you said that I couldn't hear you before no, I took.

Ambre Hasson: 7:45

I actually I wanted to take more courses, but I ended up just taking one-on-one and one-on-three. That's great yeah.

Capn Tinsley: 7:52

And I mean it was a great base and that was at Keelan Sailing Club. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Ambre Hasson: 7:57

Okay.

Capn Tinsley: 7:57

And.

Ambre Hasson: 7:57

I wanted to do more classes, but eventually there was just no time. You know, I I was doing it, you wanted to keep moving. Yeah, I was working a lot, so actually it wasn't that much time and I was like, well, I think I'm going to get real world, real world experience in sailing.

Capn Tinsley: 8:13

That's awesome that's really the way to go, because you could take all those classes until you're out there. Okay, let me try to adjust these sails. That's when you really learn, wouldn't you agree?

Ambre Hasson: 8:24

all right for sure, and I think I I was very, uh, very lucky that a lot of people let me sail on their boat with them and that's how, that's how I learned, by with other people being like, hey, you know, this is how you do this, how you do that, and you know, and then, and then you find the best way that works for you. Because I think the thing about boats whether it's sailing or taking care of boats everyone has kind of their way of doing it. Yeah, and I mean, if you ever had a problem on your boat, you ask maybe three or four people how to fix it, you're going to get three or four answers.

Ambre Hasson: 8:58

Absolutely and eventually you just kind of have to follow your intuition and try it and see if it works for you.

Capn Tinsley: 9:05

Right, yeah, yeah, you get a lot of ideas from people on the internet. It's also that all right, so, um, so take us back to that moment in the florida keys when it when you thought I'm gonna, I'm gonna do a race, or was it in the keys it was it wasn't that race, it wasn race. Or was it in the Keys it was.

Ambre Hasson: 9:27

It wasn't quite then. Yeah, so in the Keys. So the year 2020 was also the year of the Vendee Globe, and the Vendee Globe is a solo around the world race, nonstop on a 60-foot boat. Okay, so I'm discovering this race. I had never heard of it, I didn't know that anything like it existed, and I was like what is that? Like I want to do that. I don't know how, when you know and I remember telling my instructors you don't want to do the Golden Globe race, maybe, no, maybe.

Ambre Hasson: 9:57

I mean it's a retro race. It's retro and I think at this point I've become used to, you know, planing boats who go a little bit faster. I I have to find the, the middle ground, I think. But it's a cool race. I help someone prepare for that race. I think it's a fantastic race. Um, and I remember telling my instructors like I wanted to do the vendee globe and they were like, amber, like you just learned how to tack, like yesterday, and I was like yeah, yeah, but it seems cool.

Capn Tinsley: 10:26

It's true. Yeah, I mean I said to them show me how to do this myself, cause I'm not waiting on anybody to come sailing with me. I said, okay, go ahead.

Ambre Hasson: 10:36

Yeah, and I mean honestly, they, they were very encouraging. You know I was like, okay, how do I like sail off the dock. You know I was like, okay, how do I like sail off the dock. You know, walk me through. A high would do that. And then I got, you know I would learn. Or, you know, sail up to a buoy and catch it on my own, like you know, one one afternoon they watched me try to catch a buoy for like three hours.

Ambre Hasson: 10:56

Wow, you didn't give up and you got it eventually, well, eventually, one of them, uh, uh, dingied up to me and they were like can I give you some advice? I'm like, yeah for sure, like I don't, this is not working. They're like instead of trying to catch it at the front, catch it on the side. I was like that makes a lot of sense. That makes sense.

Capn Tinsley: 11:20

It makes sense and then I got it. I love your persistence. It's like this girl's not giving up.

Ambre Hasson: 11:26

No, they thought I was crazy. They were like we've never seen anyone do that. I was like I just wanted to get it. I don't know.

Capn Tinsley: 11:33

I like that though. So what was about the Vendee Globe? That was a spark for you.

Ambre Hasson: 11:40

It's just an adventure like I'd never seen before. You know, I was, you know, one person on one boat going around the world in these, like in the Southern Ocean and these huge waves. That's a beast down there. It's a beast down there and they were like doing it and managing all their problems on their own. I just thought it was very impressive and I felt like there's going into outer space and then the next thing is doing the Vendee Globe. There's going into outer space and then the next thing is doing the Vendee Globe, like in terms of challenge and, and you know, being able to manage your boat and manage yourself and stay safe and do all those things.

Capn Tinsley: 12:13

I just thought it was like so the Vendee Globe is a solo race and you said a 60 foot boat it's a huge solo on a 60 foot boat.

Ambre Hasson: 12:22

And these boats are going like top speed is like 35 knots. Yeah, you're like flying, just flying around the world because they have foils, so they're like lift out of the water.

Capn Tinsley: 12:33

Well, some of them, half of them, so does that make it a little more comfortable in those huge waves? Not?

Ambre Hasson: 12:40

exactly it makes you go fast. It's actually at this point in stage in the development. It's a fairly violent boat because we're not at a stage where we can fly most of the time across the waves. The boat still falls off the water, uh. So sometimes I mean I've never sailed in a mocha, but I've sailed on flying boats when you fall off the wave, I mean you're just nose diving into the next wave and in, like I mean you're going from 35 knots to like 10 knots, so you can imagine what's going on inside. And there's been people who hurt themselves, like you see them. Sometimes they wear helmets because it's that violent in the intense conditions.

Capn Tinsley: 13:19

But anyways, Sometimes there's like 30 to 60-foot waves in the Southern Ocean.

Ambre Hasson: 13:23

Yeah, there's some crazy stuff out there, but when you just, you know, the Vendee Globe was like the toe into this just solo astral world, then you have the Figaro's, like you have a lot of boats that you that you sail on before you get to that stage, you know it's like climbing Mount Everest. You got smaller mountains that you're going to climb first and basically, as you go through the, the, the chronology, uh, the, the experience, uh, a lot of these skippers started with the mini transit. Okay, that's how they started their career, uh, and so I was like I guess I'm gonna do the mini transit. You know, like it was an idea that I had. I just didn't think it was possible. I was like I don't have the experience, I don't know how this works. All it was possible. I was like I don't have the experience, I don't know how this works, all the skippers are in France. Like I don't know any Americans doing it, there are no minis here. Uh, as it was just an idea simmering in my head, uh, and then, uh, and then I went.

Ambre Hasson: 14:20

I came to France one summer to see my family, because my grandparents and my cousins and everything they live in France and I did a mini race. I reached out to someone and I did my first race on a mini with someone else, double-handed. It was a crazy race. It was across the English Channel, 200 miles across and back First hour. We break the bows, bowsprit, we tear the mainsail and the skipper looks at me like do you want to go home? Like we still have 200 miles to go. I was like fuck, no, like I came here to do this race. So we're going to fix this main, we're going to fix the bowsprit and we're going to keep going good for you um, and it was great.

Ambre Hasson: 15:04

Uh, I hallucinated. We did some crazy peas. We were like doing spinnaker between cargos, it was like a crazy race, uh, and I was like, oh, I'm sold, like I want to do this. Um, and I got to meet the other skippers. I realized that people doing this were you had all kinds of people. You had people who'd been sailing since zero five, but you had people who'd been sailing since zero five, but you had people who hadn't been sailing their whole life, who were doing it and I was like, if they can do it, maybe I can do it too, absolutely. So that's uh, that's kind of where you know, I was like, okay, so I'm gonna have to save up a bunch of money to buy a boat, and then I'm coming back to france and I'm gonna do.

Capn Tinsley: 15:42

So this is going to probably be a launching point to other races.

Ambre Hasson: 15:46

Yeah, for sure, I want to keep going after this. Uh, bigger, faster boats. I want to get to the boats where I wear a helmet, the 60 foot. Wow, we'll see. I mean, that'll take, that'll take years. Uh, there's a few steps in between, but uh, yeah. Yeah, I want to do that for sure.

Capn Tinsley: 16:08

So you, you, uh, the, the Southern ocean is something you want to tackle. I and well, you know, like, uh, it usually takes um four months, or I don't know, in the Southern ocean, like for the smaller boats. So how long does it take for those larger boats?

Ambre Hasson: 16:26

So those larger boats. They're going around the world. Well, the record, the record is 74 days.

Capn Tinsley: 16:34

In the Southern Ocean or the whole world? Whoa yeah, because in the Golden Globe it's like 230, 240, 240 days, something like that, total around the world, but this is 74 days.

Ambre Hasson: 16:51

Yeah, these are fast boats, yeah, so yeah, it takes about two to three months to go around the world on these boats.

Capn Tinsley: 16:59

That's not bad at all. It's just a rough ride in the Southern Ocean. It's a rough ride. Woo, you've got to have your first date kid up to date for sure, in case you break a bone or something oh for sure you go through.

Ambre Hasson: 17:12

So I've. I've done a like a medical course of, about medical and emergency course of about three days which goes over, uh, fires. It goes over how to stitch yourself back up If you hurt yourself. Uh, you know all kinds of things, but those guys, they do a different course. That's like more, uh, more all encompassing, to to really take care of like nastier stuff. Is that required for the race?

Ambre Hasson: 17:38

Yeah, yeah for sure, everyone has to take the course, and we have about three pages of medical supplies that we take on board Anything from an EpiPen, in case you have an allergic reaction to staplers to stitch ourselves back up. There's all kinds of stuff.

Capn Tinsley: 17:59

I wonder if they did that for the first Golden Globe race in 68. Did they require any special?

Ambre Hasson: 18:06

class.

Capn Tinsley: 18:07

Probably not. Back then they were like are you ready, let's go.

Ambre Hasson: 18:12

The Mini Transat was the same way. The Mini Transat started in 77. And those guys, they started the class because they were looking at races like the Whitbread, and they were like this is getting out of control. It's so expensive it's become inaccessible, inaccessible to normal people. We're going to make a race on small boats that almost anyone can participate in if they want to. So back in the day they were taking like the equivalent of cali in 22s shopping, so it'd be 21 feet and like just going, just going across the ocean, like that, you know and a 22, like they have it's key lime sailing club.

Ambre Hasson: 18:51

Yeah, yeah, yeah, I don't think so because the mini transat works in a box rule. So we're we're allowed a lot of uh experimentation and a lot of uh room to to do things, adapt the boat the way we want to, but we can. We have to be 21 feet long and 3 meters wide, so 9 feet wide, so we can't go outside of these dimensions it's not very big.

Capn Tinsley: 19:20

How does it handle in the waves?

Ambre Hasson: 19:23

so it's definitely built to be an offshore boat. It handles the waves great. But what I've because now I've gone back into cruising a little bit this year I had kind of forgotten what that felt like. The thing is, the boat is very powerful and so you're sailing differently. You know, when you are a cruising boat, a cruising boat is is heavy and is sturdy, right, uh, and basically, but basically you're going to be, you're going to be at the mercy of the waves or the conditions around you.

Ambre Hasson: 19:58

Uh, when your boat is faster I mean the top speed I've done on my boat is 18.1 knots you can actually regulate your, the speed of your boat to fall in with the period of the waves. So you can accelerate if you need to. So you actually, you know you land where you want to in the waves, or you can slow down if you're you know it's not the right, it's not the right rhythm with the waves. So it's a totally different way of sailing. You know, and you don't hope to. Like, you know, I've done races where there's like 30, 35 knots. We're, we're racing. I take two reefs, I put a smaller head sole and I'm, I'm racing. Uh, so it's. I mean it makes you a fantastic sailor. In the beginning, if you told me I was putting spinnakers in 30 knots, I would have been like no, that's crazy, I'm never going to do that you could lose a finger doing that.

Ambre Hasson: 20:50

But now we we learn how to handle those situations to to keep going fast. But now we learn how to handle those situations to keep going fast.

Capn Tinsley: 20:55

You've gotten really tough in just five years. That's amazing. Well, you were just tough to begin with.

Ambre Hasson: 21:06

I mean, it may seem so, but all the other people doing this race, they've all gone through the same learning steps. You know they've all done the same stuff, so they're just a crazy bunch of people.

Capn Tinsley: 21:14

Yeah, uh, so they're just a crazy bunch of people. Yeah, it's still. It's a such a small percentage of the population that will do something like this, so it's a. I know that you're in a crowd of people that all do that. You all are in the elite of people that would do this yeah, maybe it's a little bit crazy.

Ambre Hasson: 21:31

A little bit crazy, but yeah, because here. So I live in britney, in a place called l'orient, and I was saying this earlier to her friends like if you want to get into finance, you go to new york and you're surrounded by the best in the world, you know. And if you want to do solo offshore racing, you come to l'orient, because the guys who are winning these races live here and they train here. Uh, so sometimes I forget that what I'm doing is crazy because the guys next next to me are doing crazier stuff, you know.

Capn Tinsley: 22:02

Are you? How long are you planning on staying there after the race?

Ambre Hasson: 22:05

I think for a while, uh, cause I want to move up, move up in boats, and this is the. This is a very good place to do it. That's the place to be Okay, Cause the boats are so niche, they're so specific. You know, you need to have the guys who know how to take care of these boats. You need to have the coaches who know how to train you on these boats. Uh and it's all. It's all here.

Capn Tinsley: 22:26

That's so smart that you did that. I mean, if you're going to be all in, you need to be all in.

Ambre Hasson: 22:31

Yeah, it's the best way to learn. If you're, if you can afford to do it, it's the best way to learn so, um, my next question kind of covers that.

Capn Tinsley: 22:40

Uh, you made the leap to britney with two suitcases this was in 2020, I think and a plan to qualify in five months. Was there a moment you thought what the hell am I doing? Oh, all, all the time.

Ambre Hasson: 22:53

Yeah, I arrived in France in February of 2023 with my, my life and my suitcases. It was some clothes, but mostly tools. You sure, whatever I might need, you know to get started on the boat you could buy clothes, but you need those tools.

Ambre Hasson: 23:13

It was quite funny. One of my, one of my luggages was uh, 90 pounds is that possible? Or 90 kilos? No, 90 pounds, 90 kilos would be insane. Uh, 90 pounds. And I like I was at the limit of what I could bring and because I flew out of new york to to paris, they let you take 90 pounds on.

Ambre Hasson: 23:33

I mean one suitcase, that's like the limit, and I and, and even, and it was you had to pay for that, I'm sure For sure. But I was like it's a one way trip, you know, Right, right. And I remember the taxi driver be like oh don't worry, miss, Let me get this. And I was like I don't know, it's kind of heavy dude.

Capn Tinsley: 23:56

I was goes to pick it up. He's like oh, what's funny. Oh, my god, and how tall are you? You're, you're pretty. You're five two, that's what I thought. I'm five nine, so I didn't want to call you short, but to me you're short. Five two, a five two little package coming in there with a 90 pound suitcase. Were you able?

Ambre Hasson: 24:12

to carry it yeah poorly, but I got it to where I needed to go.

Capn Tinsley: 24:18

Use your legs, use your legs, all right. So so you went over there, you got, you got all your tools and and you're thinking what am I doing? What about your family?

Ambre Hasson: 24:27

your family, so my family's in. Well, my parents and my sister live in the States, but my my other family's in the South of Franceance, so not anywhere close to where I was, and I had spent the last six months working in boat yards to save the money to buy this boat. The boat was 23 000 euros and in my head I did you know, and so I earned 20. I found or I I worked for 23 000 uh dollars, because back when I visited that boat, the exchange rate was 1 to 1. When I came back, the exchange rate was not 1 to 1.

Ambre Hasson: 25:02

I was missing about 3 grand.

Capn Tinsley: 25:04

Oh no, I didn't even think about that. So what did you do? Did you get back in the boat yard? You couldn't do it, but could you do it over there?

Ambre Hasson: 25:16

well, I could have. But the owner of the boat yard, oh well, you couldn't do it, but you could, you do it over there, you could you. Well, I could have. But it was. It was a quite a the the owner of the boat very generously let me stay with him because he knew I had like nowhere to go, you know. So I was staying with him, his wife and his kid and like their older daughter room, who wasn't there.

Ambre Hasson: 25:31

And I'm like, hey, dude, like I fucked up, I I'm missing three grand. He's like, well, better find them. So I can tell you, dinner time was very awkward, I bet. I was like did you find it? So I started calling people, like people I hadn't called in years. I was like, hey, I, you know, I'm in a bit of a pickle, I'm trying to do this thing like can you just, you know, donate a little bit of money, da-da-da. And I like I mean, I called my whole Rolodex, you know. And I managed to gather the three grand in a week, wow, wow, through bits and pieces, and I set off that was before your GoFundMe account.

Ambre Hasson: 26:10

Yeah, yeah.

Capn Tinsley: 26:11

We're going to put that up here, by the way. So yep, so there's the Instagram handle and the GoFundMe account. We're going to plug that here a little bit. So that was before GoFundMe, so you had to actually call friends and they were like oh, great to hear from you oh, you want money, you're crazy. Okay, I'll give you 20 bucks I mean, that's what it was.

Ambre Hasson: 26:39

It was really what it was and uh, and then we just started, I took the boat and I started qualifying because this, for this race, you have to qualify, so you can't just show up, you need to do a certain amount of races and then you have to do a solo thousand mile qualifier. Yeah, where was that to? So that was to Ireland. So, yeah, yeah, I mean, the region here is is beautiful. There's so much to see, there's so many different like, uh, ground with the currents and the rocks, there's like all all kinds of stuff happening around here with the currents and the rocks. There's like all kinds of stuff happening around here. And so I set off and it was very hard because the boat was old and the guy told me it was ready to do a transat. It was not.

Ambre Hasson: 27:25

That was that first boat you're talking about I had the oldest boat in the fleet and I had stuff happening to me all the time, like my mainsail would come out of my mast. It would like come out of the love.

Capn Tinsley: 27:38

Oh no.

Ambre Hasson: 27:40

And I was like well, they told me it was hard, so I guess you know it's hard. So you know, I'm like in 25 knots and then half of my main is coming out of my mast yes. It's time to take down the main and put it back up again, you know? And uh, yeah, main and put it back up again, you know, and uh, yeah. So I started seven races and only finished four, because it was I mean, I was learning and the boat was like falling apart on me.

Capn Tinsley: 28:02

Oh the main sail kept coming out. That's kind of a hindrance. Yeah, and I had energy.

Ambre Hasson: 28:07

I mean, I just just so many problems, uh. But I was, I was fine, I was determined, I was like I'm gonna just give it all I have. And I think people were surprised I kept showing up. They were like she's still here, I'm like I'm still here.

Capn Tinsley: 28:22

I just gave up everything back there. I got nowhere to go, I'm moving forward.

Ambre Hasson: 28:28

But I managed to finish enough races to complete my race miles and the only thing I had left was the 1,000 solo qualifier. And this is outside of a race. You go whenever you want. Okay, you have a loose course, so you have to. You leave from france, you go to ireland uh, past england, then you come back down through the bay of biscay and back down to brittany. It's sort of the course that you follow.

Capn Tinsley: 28:54

Are you going over Great Britain, or are you just going up to Ireland and back down?

Ambre Hasson: 28:59

Uh, no, just, just, uh, just uh. But you go by England and up to Ireland and back down, Okay, I gotcha, yeah, yeah and uh, and I was like and I remember I had just finished a race and I actually only had 12 days before the deadline to to qualify for the race and I was like stressful, okay, and I was looking at the weather. I'm like the weather's not great. There were like three low pressure systems forming and like rolling through. What time of year was this? This was in July, okay, uh, early, early July. This was in July, okay, uh, early, early July. And I was like man, that's like, that's rough.

Capn Tinsley: 29:44

And I called people. I was like hey, you know what would?

Ambre Hasson: 29:46

you do, I need some more money. No, and most of them were like I wouldn't go. I was like, but I called one last person. I'm like, hey dude, like how, how are we going to make this work? He's like you like you want to go, like you don't want to give up yet right. He's like, no, no, I want to, I want to qualify for this. It's like, okay, we make a plan and, honestly, it was great. Uh, so it took me nine days. I went through four low pressure systems, but I would speed up or or slow down to stay on the outskirts, so the most that I got was 35 knots. You know, I never got like into the 40 or 50 knots. And what were the waves In the Irish Sea? The waves were quite good, and the last pressure system that I got off in the Bay of Biscay, off of an island, was impressive.

Capn Tinsley: 30:33

So what do you say pretty good? What's your pretty good?

Ambre Hasson: 30:37

they must at least three meters, like probably 10 feet wow that's a big uh yeah, yeah, I mean the boat disappeared.

Ambre Hasson: 30:46

Just comfortable you're holding on, oh yeah, the day before I, uh, the day before I was supposed I was going to get to port, I remember going upwind and 35 knots and the boat just kept slamming and slamming and slamming. I was getting tired. At that point I was like, oh, I just want this to be over. I bet my windex, my wind sensor, up top. Yeah, I look what I see. I was like close hauled at like maybe 40 degrees, and all of a sudden it goes to like 130 degree. And I was like close hauled, I like maybe 40 degrees, and all of a sudden it goes to like one 30 degree. And I'm like, and I'm like pulling the helm, like no, no, I'm, I'm still close hauled, like what's going on? And I looked at my wind sensor and the thing was just dangling, oh, no, like.

Capn Tinsley: 31:27

And then soon thereafter, just like your anemometer. Is it your anemometer? Somebody from uh instagram, red g porlin o realty love that, keep showing up. Oh, thank you getting a little. Getting a little compliment there.

Ambre Hasson: 31:44

So your ananometer is just hanging we were just, you know we were. And then eventually it tore off and I was like, well, we'll just finish. I can.

Capn Tinsley: 31:52

I know where the wind's coming you could tell yeah, okay, just do it the old-fashioned way.

Ambre Hasson: 31:58

The wind is high and then, you know, and then the last day I was managed to go around the island and then it was downwind so we were going fast, but it was a lot smoother. And I remember I called the port because we don't have an engine on the boat, um, so I called the port, my destination port, to let them know I was arriving in the morning and requesting a tow to actually come into the port. And they were like, okay, yeah, we'll see you tomorrow morning, just call us on the radio when you're there. And so I show up there actually on time, which is like unheard of in sailing.

Ambre Hasson: 32:33

And uh, and so the so the way the port is, um, so there's a very long channel and the channel is dug out, but on these, on the sides of the channels, it's very shallow and so I really it was. The channel is really long, so you can't really see what's going on at the end of the channel or at the entrance of the port. And I get to the first buoy that marks the entrance and I call them just to let them know I'm here and they're like okay, great, uh, just come in under sail it was downwind sailing, come in under sail. And when you get about halfway, take down your main and come in under jib. We'll be right there and we'll, we'll get you. So I get there, I hoisted, I dropped down the main and at this point the waves start changing. They're no longer a long swell but they're starting to break and I was like I know, this is like. Just, I'm like this is shit, you know.

Ambre Hasson: 33:26

But at this point I can't turn back around. I mean I sailing, I can't go against those waves, you know. So I just do my best to to surf the waves. I mean we surf and sailing, uh, but I'm not feeling good and I keep calling them like I don't see you. You know, I don't. I mean, I see the situation here. You need to get. The waves are not good and I don't. I don't see where you are and honestly, I mean you have the markers, but it looked like one big seawall Because the way the port is, it's two walls, sort of like this. So you come in like this, you know.

Capn Tinsley: 34:02

So from far away. Okay, you turn in there in between them.

Ambre Hasson: 34:06

Yeah, basically there's a little gap here, but the rest of it is just one big wall and so from far away it's not very obvious, you know. And finally I see them, and they were actually in hidden right behind here because the swell was like, so you know, not good and the moment I see them, there's a wave that breaks against the seawall, catches the sternum iboat and pushes me just outside the marker I I mean just outside the marker and I immediately start touching the bottom. What's the bottom.

Capn Tinsley: 34:40

What is it made of?

Ambre Hasson: 34:41

It's sand mostly and some rocks, it's like a mix of silt and rocks. And at this point I'm like oh, like this is shit. I remember trying to jive like jive back the other way, you know, but shit. Yeah, I remember trying to jive like jive back the other way, you know, but I obviously it didn't work. Uh, the zodiac actually tried to come and push me back in, but the waves are so like I got pushed into the zodiac, you know, or the, the dinghy, and uh, and each wave just kept pushing me, kept pushing me until I actually got onto the rocks. And at this point I'm like, I'm like this and the waves are just sort of crashing and the worst is that there's, um, there's people watching me, oh yeah giving me advice.

Ambre Hasson: 35:27

Oh, they're giving you advice, okay, uh one guy was like you know, throw your anchor out.

Ambre Hasson: 35:35

So I don't keep like drifting, I guess, and I'm like I think it's too late for that I'm already on the anchor you're already on the rocks right like I'm not here could you hear crunching going on well what happened is, uh, the waves, uh hit the boat enough times and because the boat was doing this, you know that the keel actually pierced through the boat. The keel came inside the boat and made it tore all the fiber. I mean, I remember that. I will remember that sound for the rest of my life the fiber.

Capn Tinsley: 36:10

I think I saw a brief picture of that in your video yeah, that it was like a whole. There was the.

Ambre Hasson: 36:16

Everything was exposed yeah, there was a bit. I mean, there was a huge hole in the boat and at this point I remember thinking like realizing that I, I had to leave my, I had to abandon my boat because, you know, at this point if the keel's not on anymore, maybe the boat's gonna roll over, like this could become really dangerous. Sure, and I remember going in grabbing my, my main stuff. Like I think I grabbed my laptop because I had all my stuff in the boat, like my laptop, my passports, I grabbed everything, three bags, and I jumped and I thought I thought I was gonna like touch bottom. You know, I was gonna set my feet on the ground, like after the rock, uh, I sunk, like I went underwater and thankfully I was still wearing my life jacket and inflated and brought me back to the surface. Because you can imagine, with all your gear, your boots, your bags, I mean, and all the adrenaline, you can quickly, like get into a very messy situation. Um, that had to just be so discouraging.

Capn Tinsley: 37:15

at that point Did you think I don't want to do this or I had a lot?

Ambre Hasson: 37:19

of rage.

Capn Tinsley: 37:21

Uh, I would say at the owner that sold you the boat and the people that were supposed to come out and get you.

Ambre Hasson: 37:28

No, I think it wasn't directed towards anyone or anything. It was just sheer rage of having come so close to my goal, having given so much and getting my being in a situation where I couldn't do anything anymore. You know, because when we're out sailing there's there's always problems, when you're little problems, bigger problems, but there's always a solution. And I I felt so, I there was no solution to this. I mean, my like the goat was, was wrecked.

Capn Tinsley: 37:59

Uh, and so if because of that, you did not qualify?

Ambre Hasson: 38:03

No, no, no, I mean I, even though I technically arrived to port. I think it's not in the clause, but they they mean in one piece.

Capn Tinsley: 38:13

it's not in the clause, but they mean in one piece well, I mean, if they had, did they take any responsibility for?

Ambre Hasson: 38:23

no, no, I'm someone that I mean. I think their responsibility is split. I should have done the research myself on the port. I should have looked more into the conditions, the kind of port, what happens when there's a West well, et cetera. That's a great way to look at it, of course. Yeah, you know, maybe they shouldn't have said that they could tow me in, you know, but it's not. There's no point in doing that, you know, I think. I think as a sailor, it was something to learn from Uh and I. You know, now I look, I study the ports that I come into.

Ambre Hasson: 39:03

I don't rely on someone else to tell me. You know what's going on there. Um, and also it. It made me think a lot about the project as a whole. You know the way I had approached everything. Uh, I knew I was burning. I was burning both ends of the candle you know, I was just trying to get over hurdles all the time. Yeah, very fast, you know, and I was. I was jumping a lot of hurdles and I was getting this is 2023.

Capn Tinsley: 39:34

Yeah, so I mean you had done a lot in three years. It's like, okay, let's just give it a little bit more time, I'll be ready for the next yeah, and you were asking me earlier if I wanted to stop sailing at that point.

Ambre Hasson: 39:48

Uh, no, I remember calling my mom. I was like, hey, mom, because she thought I was. I had like finished my qualifier. She saw me on the ais. She was like, oh, you know, she was congratulating me and I was like, how do I say this to her? But I call her. I tell her she's like oh man, are you okay? And I was like mama. I know one thing, though like I gotta keep going, I didn't keep sailing. Like my biggest anxiety was that I didn't have my boat anymore. I didn't have my boat to sail on anymore, and I was like, how am I going to go sailing? Uh and uh, she was like okay, you know, well, we'll figure it out.

Capn Tinsley: 40:27

So so yeah, how old were you when? Sorry to ask you, it was uh, no, it's all good.

Ambre Hasson: 40:33

That happened when I was 30. I'm 32 now, okay, and yeah, I mean I took some time. I was very lost for a while. The hardest thing was feeling very lost. I didn't have anything to do. Yeah, I was spending every minute, every hour, like working on my boat, sailing, thinking about, like finding sponsors, you know, doing all that stuff and now there was nothing.

Capn Tinsley: 40:57

And did you have sponsors at the time?

Ambre Hasson: 41:00

I was starting to have technical sponsors.

Capn Tinsley: 41:03

Technical sponsors.

Ambre Hasson: 41:04

Yeah, I didn't have any. I had some donors also, but I didn't have any uh companies uh sponsoring me yet.

Ambre Hasson: 41:13

Okay, okay, I see what you're saying, you know you see, yeah, like, uh, like professional athletes, but um, but what I did is I turned towards other people. Because I had received so much help during my campaign, I decided to help everyone else that was going to do the race. I decided to help them get ready for the race. Very nice and well, a gave me something to do. Yeah, it was nice to actually build a network also.

Capn Tinsley: 41:41

Yeah, we didn't give him back to somebody.

Ambre Hasson: 41:43

Danielle from um instagram says good old moms yeah, yeah, I'm very, I'm very grateful my, my, my parents support my, my adventures uh your habit they're down. They're down with with what I do I'm sure they worry. I'm sure they worry, but they try not to.

Capn Tinsley: 42:08

That's great that is awesome. They're supporting you. That is yeah, uh, so, uh, I. I let's see what the next question was. Um, you didn't just replace it, you rebuilt everything. Um, and you're starting to tell me about how you started helping others. Yeah, and so how did that make a difference?

Ambre Hasson: 42:29

well, uh, I think, because one of the things that's hard about uh doing this, this race, is that you receive a lot of help from people. You need to ask for help. You can't do it by yourself, and it's nice, when you have time, you know when you're able to to actually turn that around and help give your time to other people. It selfishly made me feel better to help other people as well, and it also allowed me to stay in the thing in a way. You know, I looked at, I started looking at other boats, I was talking to people, I got to sail on other boats as well. It just allowed me to stay in that groove, in that circle, sure, and start thinking about, you know, the the next step. Um, I wanted to repair the boat, but it would have cost me three times the price of the boat, so I didn't have that. Yeah, uh, and unfortunately, you know, I wanted to, but I I realized it didn't make sense, so I ended up finding a different boat.

Capn Tinsley: 43:32

Uh, but's a 2006 mini 6.5. Yeah, exactly On the road. Again two yeah.

Ambre Hasson: 43:42

One of the previous owners. He names all his boat on the road again. Uh, now he's sailing on the road again. Three. And that was his on the road again. Two. But obviously I thought it was funny when I saw oh I love the boat, uh, and then I saw the name and I thought it was. It was funny, you know, on the road again too, considering I just lost the boat. So I decided to keep the name I'm going to.

Capn Tinsley: 44:03

I'm going to pull up a picture. So you keep talking, go ahead.

Ambre Hasson: 44:08

Uh, so yeah, and I decided it was in the beginning. It was hard to. I felt like I was going through mourning.

Capn Tinsley: 44:16

I was mourning. I've experienced that I lost a boat in a hurricane.

Ambre Hasson: 44:20

Oh wow. So you, you know what it's like, you know, you, you're, you're very much attached to your boat.

Capn Tinsley: 44:26

I was crying, I was and I was like okay, nobody has cancer, Stop it.

Ambre Hasson: 44:35

It's your home, you have these experiences and I mean it becomes, it becomes part of you, so, so it's hard when you lose a boat. Uh, and I had a. You know, I felt like I was cheating on my boat when I was looking at it.

Capn Tinsley: 44:48

Yes, I felt the same thing. I know what you're talking about, so I was like um, oh.

Ambre Hasson: 44:55

But basically one day, right before the start of the race, I saw a boat that I really liked. There was just something about it that was calling my name. Yeah, there we go, and I decided to do a little bit more research and a lot of people told me it was a very good boat. Oh yeah, so I went to go. There was another sister ship of the same boat in Finland, so I went to go see it.

Capn Tinsley: 45:23

Look apart. I have a picture of it.

Ambre Hasson: 45:26

Yeah, I guess I don't have great pictures of my little boat.

Capn Tinsley: 45:29

This one shows a little bit, but Wait, whoa, there it is, there it is. Wow, that's a big little boat yeah, that was.

Ambre Hasson: 45:46

I did a big refit this winter I bet you learned a lot.

Capn Tinsley: 45:52

Oh yeah, yeah. So it's a beautiful boat.

Ambre Hasson: 45:59

You're fixing stuff there, there's always stuff to fix on boats.

Capn Tinsley: 46:02

Absolutely, I get it. I've got a 1998 Island Packet 320. It's ongoing. So you've done the boat work, the prep, the racing. What part of this journey has tested you the most, mentally or physically? It was losing the boat, probably.

Ambre Hasson: 46:21

Yeah, that was hard. It was hard to start all over again, but I guess what's tested me the most I'm not sure, yeah, having to start everything from scratch again and and and believe, and believing that I could do it. Uh, I will say I I lost quite a bit of confidence, you know I when I, so I lost the boat, I managed to decide how I wanted to present the new project. You know, because part of me, like a lot of people were not told me that I was being reckless, were not very supportive of me losing a boat and started again. I got some criticism and so I had to decide how I wanted to approach all of that and how I wanted to present the whole project who was saying that family or strangers or no sailors in the community here.

Capn Tinsley: 47:12

Uh, they were saying you can't do this, you've already proved you can't do it, that kind of thing. Yeah, oh my gosh, I'm so like wow, that's like your timing is great.

Ambre Hasson: 47:24

Thank you, that's terrible. I also had a lot of people who supported me and they were like I love that you were going after it again. So you know it wasn't just criticism, but there was a bit of that, and sometimes you start to internalize that sometimes.

Capn Tinsley: 47:41

Right, that's the thing.

Ambre Hasson: 47:43

And so actually the hardest part was when I started sailing on my new boat. First of all, it's a much more technical boat than my other boat. So, just as a sailor, I was like, because there's a lot of, I have ballast, I have a canting keel, so my keel goes from side to side. My rudders lift out of the water so I minimize drag. I have two rudders and they both lift based on which tack I'm on. I have a wing mass so it rotates into the wind and I can also change the rake of my mass while I'm sailing. Wow, so I can go zero degrees to eight degrees under sail. So there's like oh and dagger boards obviously, so there's a lot of moving pieces, like it's a very complicated boat.

Ambre Hasson: 48:28

And I remember last year, when I started training on the boat to learn how to sail the boat, I had no confidence. I was like I was terrified. I wasn't scared for myself, I was scared I was going to break my boat and also I was in a group of people who had been already sailing on their boat, who knew their boats, and also their boats were a little simpler they're not like mine and so I was always behind, like I couldn't keep up with the group and I was like, ah, it was demoralizing, and every week I had nightmares.

Capn Tinsley: 49:00

I had nightmares you just hadn't learned how to use all the tricks that are available to you I took it step by step.

Ambre Hasson: 49:07

I didn't try to use everything at once. I was like, okay, first we just sail the boat, we tack we, you know, you know whatever. Then we try the keel, then we do this. And also, every time I had a little win, whether it was, like you know, leaving the port under sail, or like taking a reef, or managing to can't the keel, like whatever. It was every little thing that I managed to do. I would like hold on to that. I was like, okay, like I am making progress, you know, it's not all bad. Like I'm, I'm learning how to sail my boat. Uh, and then one day, it was maybe two months into the trainings where I was, you know, always behind everyone. I was so demoralized. My boat is supposed to be faster than their boats, you know, and I'm behind them.

Ambre Hasson: 49:52

Did you say did you think I'm going to eventually get this and I'm going to beat these people? No, there were some days I was starting to lose a little faith. That's hard. It's not just showing up, it's also believing that you can do it. And there were days I wasn't sure I could do it.

Capn Tinsley: 50:06

Yeah.

Ambre Hasson: 50:06

Thankfully I have nice friends. They were like, ah, it's fine, you just keep going. And I was like, yeah, and then one day I got pissed off. I was like I'm tired of being like little little, you know, like the little girl who's like scared of her little bone and like is like tiptoeing around and afraid of like pushing the bone and just going for it. Uh, and that day I also had a good co-skipper who was like, ah, let's just fucking go for it, I do whatever you want.

Ambre Hasson: 50:30

I you know, because when you learn, oftentimes you're double-handed, just to have someone on board to help you handle things. And I found this anger, I was tired of being mopey about myself. And that changed everything. I gave it everything I had and I started pushing. You're like that's it, I'm learning this right now. I gave it everything I had and I started pushing. That's it, I'm learning this right now Exactly. And for the first time, I was actually in front of the group. Wow, I realized that the boat could take it. The boat was strong, I wasn't going to break my boat and it was fine and I could keep pushing, you know. And I could learn that I was going to be able to sail that boat and that was a really, a real turning point and I stopped having the nightmares. That's awesome. So so, yeah, that was probably the hardest part, and since then it's just been growth, you know, just learning as much as I can and getting being a better sailor. So what does success.

Ambre Hasson: 51:27

Look like for you in the mini transit, finishing competing or something look like for you in the mini transit finishing, competing or something something deeper. Step one start. That's always. You know. Yeah, anyone you ask who does a big race will tell you the the first race is getting to the start line okay at this point it's going to happen. I mean, I yes, I missed september 21st, that's I'm missing a bit of budget, but we'll figure something out.

Capn Tinsley: 51:52

Let's put this up again. Then the GoFundMe she's missing a little budget. That means money. Come on, you guys. This is awesome, this is an awesome girl, chick woman. Let's support her.

Ambre Hasson: 52:09

Step two is finish. Finishing will already be huge. And then step three is because my boat is still it's quite a bit older than a lot of the other boats. But step three is knowing that I took every opportunity. I put the big sail up when I could. You know I took the right weather option. You know I didn't make any big mistakes. I sailed that boat as hard and as fast as I could, without breaking the boat, without burning myself and falling asleep for too long, just having a very good race and making the right choices and whatever position that is on the other side. If I did all those things, I'll be very happy.

Capn Tinsley: 52:53

And you're going to go to.

Ambre Hasson: 52:53

Guadeloupe. Yeah, so the first leg is from France to the Canaries. Okay, that takes about nine days, and then we wait in the Canaries about three weeks for hurricane season to be over.

Capn Tinsley: 53:08

Oh, you get a break.

Ambre Hasson: 53:10

Okay, we get a little break, and then the second leg is from the Canaries to wet loop, and that takes about two weeks. So so, yeah, it's a total. It's like I don't know three to four weeks at sea in total.

Capn Tinsley: 53:26

Uh, so yeah, it'll be exciting. And then what are you going to do when you get there?

Ambre Hasson: 53:36

exciting. And then what are you going to do when you get there? Drink rum? No, but my family's going to be there. So I really wonder what I'm going to feel when I cross that finish line. I don't know. I'm not much of a crier, but like I wonder if I'll cry, if I'll scream, if I'll just. I think I'll be very excited to see my family on the dock and get to hug the ones that I love, after having accomplished something that I've been working for for two and a half years.

Capn Tinsley: 53:59

So Danielle from Instagram says Saturday morning affirmation so inspiring resonates with this non-sailor she's a friend of mine. She's a non-sailor.

Ambre Hasson: 54:08

Very cool.

Capn Tinsley: 54:09

She's going to be doing some sailing with me, though. Oh nice non-sailor, but she's going to be doing some sailing with me though. Oh nice, um. So I you know from people that have gone more time at sea I don't know if a couple weeks would, but a lot of times they don't, they don't find, they don't want the stimulation when they get back to land.

Ambre Hasson: 54:25

They're like they're so used to being alone well, I have.

Ambre Hasson: 54:29

I mean the, because as long as I've been at sea alone is nine days, and it's it's at least it's mixed. You want to see the people that you love, like your close friends and your family, but you're not necessarily ready to see all the other people, just the people who are there. You know, like, I guess, the organizations and there'll be fans around too, like people follow this race. You know there'll be random people that I don't know as much when I get there, and it's true that it can be a lot, a little too much stimulation, right, yeah, but the most simulation is is cause there's no phone on board, I can't take my phone, yeah, is when you get your phone back again and you start getting all the notifications.

Ambre Hasson: 55:13

Turn that off, like I don't need any of this, yeah, so danielle wants to know where we can watch the race so if you follow me on my so I don't have the information yet, I don't have the links, okay, but if you follow my instagram or facebook or whatever, as soon as I have that I will share there it is. There'll be a live link to follow the start live on YouTube and also a tracker to watch us progress over the ocean.

Capn Tinsley: 55:45

Okay. So go to at Amber Sales, underscore sales and look for the link there. And somebody else says oh, lisa loves the keys. Is this somebody you know? Um says maybe I know some leases. This might be it. Um, she says I'll be rooting for you. So is that a person you know? I don't think so. No, okay, I'm having to copy and paste it so it shows under me. But there's the handle there. Oh, that's so sweet yeah.

Ambre Hasson: 56:26

So you got some fans. So okay, so you're going to sell the boat or keep the boat? I wish I could keep my boat, but I have to sell it. Just financially I can't afford it anymore.

Capn Tinsley: 56:38

Okay, and so then, what are you going to do after that? Are you going to I'm hoping I'll be in Georgetown, so I'm hoping you're going to like sail right through there or something, so I can say hi to you.

Ambre Hasson: 56:50

Wave over.

Capn Tinsley: 56:51

Yeah, you're going to fly to new. What are you gonna do? You gonna fly back to brittany, or about new york, or?

Ambre Hasson: 56:58

yeah, so after the race, I mean, if it's a big question, I haven't thought much about after.

Capn Tinsley: 57:02

But uh, that's what I'm here for so the boats the boat's gonna be for sale.

Ambre Hasson: 57:08

I'm gonna try to find the next, next skipper who wants to do the mini transat. The boat's going to be for sale.

Capn Tinsley: 57:12

I'm going to try to find the next skipper who wants to do the mini transat. Yeah, I'm sure there'll be people that want to buy a boat that has already done it and has become famous on social media.

Ambre Hasson: 57:21

Yes, we'll see, I hope so. I hope the next owner will take care of her, but I'm actually crossing the ocean back, not on my boat, but on a friend's boat. Okay, a bigger race boat, a class 40.

Capn Tinsley: 57:37

It'll be more comfortable.

Ambre Hasson: 57:41

Yeah, a little bit more comfortable and a bit faster. Okay, so I got at least after the race. I got the next month figured out and then after that I'll be in Brittany trying to figure out what to do with my life, Trying to figure out how to keep racing, either as part of a team or on my own boat. So we'll see.

Capn Tinsley: 57:58

Oh, I don't see. I think you're going to have your own boat.

Ambre Hasson: 58:02

I don't see that.

Capn Tinsley: 58:03

Like I like to be the captain of my own boat, and I sense that about you too.

Ambre Hasson: 58:16

Yeah, I mean, I love, I love solo and double-handed racing. I'm not used team racing, it's just you're too focused on one task. Almost I want to say, uh, when you're solo racing, I mean I'm better at some things than others. Obviously we all have our strong suit, but you get to do a bit of everything. And it's the same case double-handed. You know, when the other person's sleeping you're handling the boat, but you still get to have someone that you're like sharing it with, which I think is nice.

Capn Tinsley: 58:41

You just need to invite somebody that doesn't. They're not allowed to do anything. They just talk to you.

Ambre Hasson: 58:49

You can't touch anything.

Capn Tinsley: 58:52

That's what I do. People go go tell me what I should do. I go just stay out of the way they go. I can do that so I have some rapid fires here. Uh, I think you've already answered this. One worst moment during your thousand nautical mile qualifier the ending right yeah, probably the pierce.

Ambre Hasson: 59:13

Piercing the keel, piercing through my boat is probably the worst part. Yeah, the rest of it was great. I loved it. I loved being at sea. It was my first time being at sea for so long by myself and I loved every bit of it, even though there was a lot of wind.

Capn Tinsley: 59:25

I was like well, that's a good reason, right there, to keep going. I mean, you saw that you liked it. This ending shouldn't have anything to do. You've learned your lesson and move on right. Yeah, exactly Um biggest lesson boat work has taught you.

Ambre Hasson: 59:43

Boat work. Um, I think it's, uh, it's. It's good to spend time working on your boat, even if your boat is is quote unquote ready to sail. Uh, cause it's having to spend time working on your boat even if your boat is quote-unquote ready to sail, because having a boat and being solo on a boat is a bit of a relationship. So the more you know your boat, the more your boat takes care of you. That's true, and I really feel like you have to give love to your boat, for your boat to give love back to you. And the thing is it gives you a lot of confidence, especially solo, that if anything goes wrong or anything breaks, you know how to take care of it because you know you're both inside out. So it's a huge confidence boost.

Capn Tinsley: 1:00:20

Lisa loves the keys says I'm just a fan.

Ambre Hasson: 1:00:23

Thank you, Lisa.

Capn Tinsley: 1:00:25

A fan from the keys. Yes, like you get real good at hearing when something doesn't sound right.

Ambre Hasson: 1:00:32

Yeah, absolutely. It's like what's that I?

Capn Tinsley: 1:00:35

may not know how to fix it, but I know something's different.

Ambre Hasson: 1:00:37

Yeah, there's good noises and bad noises, for sure.

Capn Tinsley: 1:00:44

Sailing skill you picked up the fastest.

Ambre Hasson: 1:00:48

Sailing skill. I picked up the fastest, I don't know.

Capn Tinsley: 1:00:53

Something made you keep going. I mean, you were like something must've come easy, because you your initial interest was.

Ambre Hasson: 1:01:02

Yeah, I will say I think we tend to be as adults. I love talking to sailing instructors about this. You know they talk about the difference between teaching children and adults how to sail and as adults we tend to be a bit more pedantic. You know, we're out there reading the textbooks, trying to understand sailing on a piece of paper and I guess I haven't matured that much. And what I love about sailing is like how intuitive it is, like if you actually just sit down, stop trying to think about looking at your wind decks and like where the wind's coming from, and just feel your helm, feel your boat, feel the wind right here, feel the wind. It's a very intuitive sport and the boat speaks to you and there's something that makes you very present when you just slow down and listen to your boat.

Capn Tinsley: 1:01:48

It's true. It's true, Like when I went out after all the lessons. I went out there and I went from orange beach to the keys and back I felt like I learned.

Capn Tinsley: 1:01:59

So, yeah, I was solo and I just learned way much more than the classes. I mean, the classes are good, yeah, you need them, but just how? How to set the sails with this kind of wind and that it just it. It became more intuitive, yeah, and if not a bunch of chatter somebody on the boat, what are you going to do now? I'm like I don't know. I'm going to figure it out, that's what but.

Capn Tinsley: 1:02:24

I do think the the psychology, I read the psychology of sailing is people like to solo because they're, they're not, there's not a lot of noise and they're just, they're learning to be intuitive, yeah, and you're learning at your own pace.

Ambre Hasson: 1:02:39

You know, if you make a mistake, there's there's no one around to be like, oh, you made a mistake. He's like yeah, I know, I made a mistake. Now, you know, now I'm going to fix my mistake and it's, you know, it's not a big deal. Uh, yeah, but I think, yeah, sailing came. I learned how to sail like a child. I'm a very intuitive sailor, whereas some people are more scientific and I'm trying to become a bit more scientific because these boats require a bit more, uh, data-driven approach.

Capn Tinsley: 1:03:04

Uh, but yeah, so it's a, it's a balance. But there's no engine, right, I mean no engine. So you really do have to be, you have to really learn to sail.

Ambre Hasson: 1:03:17

There's no wind, you wait. It is a lot of wind, you reef, and when there's current, well, but it makes. It does make you and you arrive most of the time you arrive by dock, under sail, so it forces you to really understand.

Capn Tinsley: 1:03:29

I want to try that.

Ambre Hasson: 1:03:30

Yeah, I've never done that. It forces you to really understand. I want to try that. Yeah, I've never done that. You know and you can sort of like you can start with a buoy. You know, you work your approach, you see how the boat drifts. The hardest part, which requires experience, is knowing how your boat's going to drift.

Capn Tinsley: 1:03:48

When people get in your way.

Ambre Hasson: 1:03:50

There's also that Island packets have quite a bit of momentum, you know, so they're not going to drift into a spot the same way that, like my boat would drift into a spot and all the boats are different um, but that you can test that away from the dock and then test it on the dock. So, yeah, it's great. I mean, it's a it gives. It makes you feel like you have a bit more freedom, you know, you know that you have a bit more freedom you know Sure.

Ambre Hasson: 1:04:12

You know that the engine stops working. You can still get to the dock.

Capn Tinsley: 1:04:16

You've done a lot in five years, so let's see what else we got. Go to food when you're offshore, that's a good one. Yeah, food is a whole thing.

Ambre Hasson: 1:04:30

So life on board is like camping. You know, there's no bed, there's no toilet, there's no kitchen. I have a little inflatable mattress, my toilet is my bucket and my kitchen is.

Capn Tinsley: 1:04:43

Is it just so? That's just extra weight. What is that?

Ambre Hasson: 1:04:46

Yeah, yeah, I mean, the boat is as light as possible. There's nothing inside, it's like it's just a carbon shell, basically, you see what I saw that? Yeah, let's see. And so food is uh, you know, I use a camping stove for food, okay, which means that I eat freeze-dried meals. So I boil, I boil my water, I put in a little freeze-dried you know pasta, bolognese or something you know whatever, and I wait for it to heat up 10 minutes.

Capn Tinsley: 1:05:19

And then that's what I eat. I can eat like that. Here's the inside, right here, right.

Ambre Hasson: 1:05:26

No, that's not my boat. That's very big.

Capn Tinsley: 1:05:31

Yeah, that is big.

Ambre Hasson: 1:05:36

There was a boat tour a while ago, but it's far away in the feed. No, the boat's quite small. You should keep going, is that?

Capn Tinsley: 1:05:43

it right there.

Ambre Hasson: 1:05:45

No, keep going. It says boat tour on it. It's a picture of my boat from far away. Oh, on the corner with the picture of the boat with the background Right here, no, next to over. Yeah that one.

Capn Tinsley: 1:06:11

Oh, there we go, we'll let that play while we're talking.

Ambre Hasson: 1:06:14

Yeah, we, I mean it's. It's like astronaut food. We eat freeze-dried meals. I take some fresh stuff yeah, that doesn't you know last like a week or so and then, and then there's no more fresh stuff. So when I get to land, like I don't crave a steak or anything, I crave salads. When I get to land, I just want like a fresh tomato. You know Right.

Capn Tinsley: 1:06:34

Okay, that makes sense. Um, okay, you built a team around you. You mentioned that. Tell me about that.

Ambre Hasson: 1:06:44

Yeah, so it's not. I mean, uh, you know that's it's, it's. This still remains a small, a small, uh, racing project. So, uh, uh. So I have a team, but they're not no one's full time. But the thing is, when I did my first attempt at the mini trans, that I, you know, I wanted to do do it better this time around, and I realized that I I needed to be better surrounded, I needed help. Uh, there's some things that I I'm good at, but I definitely have a lot of weaknesses and I needed people around me who could like balance out those weaknesses. Uh, you know mechanic, yeah, you know. So it is technical, uh, and some of it a lot, some of it was, uh, helping find money okay, a fundraiser person yeah, fundraiser person.

Ambre Hasson: 1:07:33

I also have a communications person that helps me with that stuff social media and definitely got some technical help as well, not not full-time but part-time, uh yeah, and but also it's also a question of balancing me out personality wise, like soft skills. You know, someone who thinks about the things that can go wrong, because I am a huge optimist to myself. I only think about the upwards potential. You know, I don't think about what could go wrong, and sometimes having someone who's like, well, this could go wrong, maybe we can anticipate, you know, so that doesn't happen and you're like I don't want to think about that.

Ambre Hasson: 1:08:12

I try to listen to them.

Capn Tinsley: 1:08:14

Yeah.

Ambre Hasson: 1:08:14

Yeah, that is a good point. Yeah, we should figure that out. Uh, you know, it's no, it's about creating like it's like a, it's like a small company. You know you want to create a balanced team with people that bring in their own skills and their own point of view, so so it creates a 360 view of everything that you're doing. So how many people is this? It's three, but part-time. They're also working on other projects, Like the person that helps me fundraise. You know she's also helping five other skippers.

Capn Tinsley: 1:08:50

I got an employee where I can hire full-time people and so you have like a social media person and all that. Yeah and did they see my request. I don't know. I mean, when I requested you to come on, you answered.

Ambre Hasson: 1:09:06

Oh, when you requested, oh, no, I saw that. I saw that, okay, what she does? I mean she creates the content, but I'm still in charge of my account. Okay, you know doing like getting the hardest part is like getting the ideas and then putting the videos together. That takes a lot of time.

Capn Tinsley: 1:09:24

So if someone helps you with the editing, just because it does take a lot of time, I know about this.

Ambre Hasson: 1:09:30

Yeah, I mean, mean it takes hours and you know those hours that could be either sailing, learning weather, or so I have to you know best allocate my time so I get a little bit of help yeah, I mean if, unless you've done this, you don't know how much time it takes to do these videos, and you need those videos especially for fundraising and for recognition.

Capn Tinsley: 1:09:53

So it's great that you have some help.

Ambre Hasson: 1:09:56

Yeah, in the beginning it was all me, but I realized that it was, you know, because the thing with social media is you have to be consistent and I'm like I'm kind of have a one-track mind like I. There's times I'm like, oh, I have so many ideas, I'm going to do all this stuff, and then I switch to the next thing and then for weeks, you know you never, you never see me or hear me because I like my brain's gone somewhere else.

Capn Tinsley: 1:10:21

It's hard to keep up that pace when you've got this whole boat project going on at the same time. So I'm glad you got some help. I mean, you've got some great videos.

Ambre Hasson: 1:10:37

Harder building the boat or building the team? That's a good question. Probably the boat. There were definitely days. It's a small boat but everything needs to be well done because you know it has to hold, it has to be sturdy. So it's a different level. You know, because I learned how to work on boats in Florida, on cruising boats, but this is like a different level. You know, I had never worked with carbon fiber and it handles differently from fiberglass. You know, you're just, it's very technical and also it's just a tremendous amount of work. I mean, I spent, uh weeks sanding my boat and there are days you're like I don't want to do it anymore. Let's do something else today, right?

Capn Tinsley: 1:11:24

well, you have learned so many skills in this time like this could open up all kinds of opportunities for you later, you know, to earn to earn a living yeah, hopefully you can just keep sailing, but it's, I mean you will. You will keep sailing, but like you could even. There's just so many skills you've learned yeah, for sure.

Ambre Hasson: 1:11:45

I mean, that's the beauty of this, of this project. Uh, all the sailors that that do this end up learning so much, not just about sailing, but about boat maintenance and everything.

Capn Tinsley: 1:11:56

One piece of gear you'd fight to keep on board.

Ambre Hasson: 1:12:00

A piece of gear, what no, I was thinking.

Capn Tinsley: 1:12:06

Yeah, is it. Is it limited on these races or no? You're not limited you.

Ambre Hasson: 1:12:13

You actually have quite a bit of there's quite a bit of requirements of stuff, of stuff you have to have on board, gotcha. Uh, in terms of piece of gear, I'm I'm a fairly simple sailor. You know I I don't even wear gloves when I'm sailing. Yeah, uh, you know I don't, I don't, I'm not a gear heavy person. That's not my to a flaw.

Ambre Hasson: 1:12:35

Like people will ask me, you know what shoes or what thing you know whatever, like what I use, what I use gear wise, and I'm still like a floridian at heart. I think, well, I'm, you know, like, you know I, I'll, I'll sail in jeans and like no shoes, even though I'm supposed to be this like racer, offshore racer person. You know I get on board whatever. I have my overalls. I'm very because when I the one thing is when I started sailing oh, I do have an answer for you when I started sailing I didn't have money to buy decent bibs. You know I was wearing a fishing bibs. You know I was wearing fishing bibs because they were cheap and pretty waterproof, but the water would go in through the pant legs. Anyways, I was wet most of the time and thankfully, last year Hallie Hansen came on board as a sponsor. So now I get to have my bibs. Wow, I love their jackets.

Ambre Hasson: 1:13:27

I also have their shoes.

Capn Tinsley: 1:13:29

I've got the sailing shoes too. I don't have their shoes, but've got the sailing shoes too.

Ambre Hasson: 1:13:31

I don't have the shoes, but at least the bibs and the jacket keeps me super dry. And what I like, cause what I like are waterproof socks, cause you can you know, they're kind of like, they're like neoprene socks, okay, and basically you wear those, whether it's like simple boots, like even like extra tufts or whatever, or proper offshore boots. It just creates that extra layer of protection Because, no matter what you do, in some of these conditions your feet are going to get wet and even if the rest of you is wet, if your feet are dry, it makes a huge difference and they're not that expensive for the comfort that they give you.

Capn Tinsley: 1:14:19

And that do, they keep you warm too.

Ambre Hasson: 1:14:20

I mean like, even if it's warm for warmth, yeah, they keep you warm. What's nice is because they are waterproof like they. Maybe you, you might sweat in it a little bit. So what's nice is to wear thin socks and then your waterproof socks on top, and then that's the winning combo is that Helly?

Ambre Hasson: 1:14:34

Hansen as well. The socks, no, I bought. They're not Helly Hansen. Musto makes them but not Helly Hansen. I forget the brand that I buy, but a lot of people make them. I think they're all good. Yeah, so that is. It's nice, especially if you can't afford 300, you know a dollar sailing boots that are like crazy expensive.

Capn Tinsley: 1:14:59

You can get away with that you heard it here, tip of the day on the Salty Podcast. Let's see, I just have a couple more questions. If you could tell 2021 thing, what would it be 2020. I guess, when you left New York, who knew? I mean, did you see yourself doing something like this? I had no idea what was in store for me it was yeah, I love it.

Ambre Hasson: 1:15:27

It's like I'm glad I stepped off that ledge.

Capn Tinsley: 1:15:31

Have people that said you were crazy for maybe leaving and giving up your job come back to you and change their story. No, they still think I'm crazy.

Ambre Hasson: 1:15:41

But supportive, I hope, yeah, yeah, supportive. But they still think I'm crazy.

Capn Tinsley: 1:15:47

Well, now they probably understand a little bit more and say oh, she was looking for something like this.

Ambre Hasson: 1:15:52

Yeah, it's starting to make a bit more sense. You know, and when I look back, you know, sometimes I'm like it's crazy. You know, I just sort of took a chance on something, but I do kind of believe that things happen for a reason. And when I look back at the entirety of my life, I maybe I'm not so surprised. You know, I I was always traveling all over the place, I was always spending time in the water, scuba diving, like there was always a part of me that was drawn to the ocean and to adventure. Um, I just didn't know what that was going to look like yet and that I could maybe make it my whole life.

Capn Tinsley: 1:16:30

Did you grow up in Melbourne Florida? No, no, not at all.

Ambre Hasson: 1:16:35

You grew up in New York, so I was born in Paris. Then, when I was seven, my family left France and we moved to Virginia, charlottesville, virginia, in the middle of the state. I stayed there until I graduated university. Then I went to New York to work because I wanted. You know, my family never had a lot of money, so I wanted to make money. To me that was freedom, you know, having money. And then I was like, wait, you know, maybe money isn't everything. Yeah.

Capn Tinsley: 1:17:05

It's also really expensive to live there.

Ambre Hasson: 1:17:08

Yeah, I mean, my salary was good, but my expenses were so expensive I wasn't really saving anybody. And then Florida, all over Florida, and then France.

Capn Tinsley: 1:17:20

So you speak French.

Ambre Hasson: 1:17:23

Yeah, I speak French. That's a big advantage.

Capn Tinsley: 1:17:25

Yeah, and in Brittany that's kind of like a Celtic place, right.

Ambre Hasson: 1:17:30

Yeah, it's one of the six Celtic nations. If you ask some of the people around here where we are, they will say Brittany. They won't say France and it's not the same for them.

Capn Tinsley: 1:17:40

They do speak French, though.

Ambre Hasson: 1:17:42

Yeah, okay, everyone speaks French, but some people speak is speak Breton, which is like the specific language of Brittany, a variant of Celtic.

Capn Tinsley: 1:17:52

Oh, okay, so that, so it's separate from French, but so they speak both, or some of them speak both.

Ambre Hasson: 1:17:58

Yeah, yeah exactly Very cool. Yeah it's. I mean, it's a local. It's a local dialect, like in the south of France you have the Basque region and so a lot of yeah, it's a local dialect, like in the south of France, you have the Basque region, and so a lot of people speak another language and there's a lot of pride in that culture and some people wish they were their own country.

Capn Tinsley: 1:18:23

They don't want to be part of another country. Can you speak?

Ambre Hasson: 1:18:28

the language, the celtic language.

Capn Tinsley: 1:18:29

No, but you you're able to speak french, they probably a lot of them speak english too, right uh?

Ambre Hasson: 1:18:34

yeah to, to different, to different levels of right.

Capn Tinsley: 1:18:40

Okay, um so now the last question I've already asked you first thing you'll do when you hit land and go out of loop.

Ambre Hasson: 1:18:50

Yeah, but it's just greeting, greeting my, my loved ones, I think. I think it'll be very nice to see those familiar faces after your mom, your dad. Yeah, my mom, my dad, my boyfriend, my friends. You know like I'll be. I'll be very excited to see them. It's going to be a big moment. You know like I'll be. I'll be very excited to see them. It's going to be a big moment, you know, and they've they've been part of it this whole time.

Capn Tinsley: 1:19:12

They've encouraged me Uh, then they'll tell you you're not crazy.

Ambre Hasson: 1:19:16

I think being crazy is not such a bad thing. You know, we all listen to slightly different music.

Capn Tinsley: 1:19:23

I mean, I hear it all the time. People go people, go by yourself If. I've heard that once I've heard it a million times, I'm like, yeah, you should try it by yourself. That seems to be a hard thing.

Ambre Hasson: 1:19:38

Yeah, I would hear that a lot more. When I was in Florida and I was sailing by myself on my Bristol, they were like why are you by yourself? Can't you find someone to sail with? I was like I don't want. I mean, if I wanted someone to sail with I would invite them. And I'm not. I mean I'm not against sailing with people, but I enjoy both. So I enjoy sailing by myself. It's very peaceful.

Capn Tinsley: 1:20:04

When it's not rough yeah and no, there's.

Ambre Hasson: 1:20:07

There's definitely a peace and the tranquility that that you find out there that's I've never found anywhere else, and it also gives you a great deal of confidence. In a way, you're talking my language.

Ambre Hasson: 1:20:19

There's a sense of achievement about it yeah, I mean if you, you can handle your boat in all kinds of conditions or deal with all kinds of problems that you're when you're out there by yourself in the middle of the ocean. When you come back to land, you know people are and there's a little problem. The problem just seems so manageable. It's like, OK, well, we can take care of that. It's going to be OK, you know you got pretty good at fixing things yeah.

Ambre Hasson: 1:20:49

But I was better at it. I think it's also it's not just physically fixing stuff on your boat, it's also, um, risk management, uh, you know, taking decisions under pressure and making the right decisions under pressure. Uh, because the problem with, with, uh, when you're sailing, is usually when one thing goes wrong very quickly, five other things can go wrong at the same time. You should make the wrong choice. You're creating, like you can very quickly create more problems, and so you have to stay cool, under pressure enough to make the right call, and that that's useful. I need any anywhere, whatever you're doing.

Capn Tinsley: 1:21:20

So that's true, and you do get better or I do, I speak for myself at rigging something until you can fix it later. You know, figuring something out. I'm kind of resourceful that way anyway, but I'm not a mechanic.

Ambre Hasson: 1:21:39

Well, the engine is the worst part of the sailboat.

Capn Tinsley: 1:21:43

Well, luckily you don't need that on your trip.

Ambre Hasson: 1:21:46

I'm glad there's no engine on my boat.

Capn Tinsley: 1:21:47

I don't understand how that works well, I do, but it's an, it's a, it's a diesel, but okay, well, that's, that's all I have. Is there anything else that you want to say to anybody like let's bring up that, go fund me again this?

Ambre Hasson: 1:22:03

is a good cause.

Capn Tinsley: 1:22:05

This is a great cause, so how? Short are you right now, by the way.

Ambre Hasson: 1:22:11

About 10 grand. Okay, guys, I mean it seems like a lot when I say that, but considered everything else that's been invested, it's a lot more than that. And you know, even if it's 10, 10 or 20 or you know, whatever you can give it, it all helps towards getting the last bit of logistics out of the way for the start. You know this is to cover insurance and a bit of race logistics, because the boat's ready, I'm ready, Everything else is good to go.

Capn Tinsley: 1:22:43

So you need 10 grand in 22 days. I hope this helps. I do. I'm going to give you something. I'll do it after we get up. So I encourage everybody just to give a little bit. You know something you won't miss or a lot.

Ambre Hasson: 1:23:02

Well, this has been a pleasure.

Capn Tinsley: 1:23:03

I do appreciate you coming on and thanks for answering my DM. Yeah, for sure.

Ambre Hasson: 1:23:09

Well, thank you so much for for having me. And you know, I guess, as parting words, it's like, you know, if there's something you want to do, whatever it is, it doesn't even have to be about sailing and you're a little bit scared, you know, the first step is the scariest part after that. After that you'll just figure it out. So I would say, go for it. Whatever your dream is, whatever you're thinking about, I totally agree, you have to go for it.

Capn Tinsley: 1:23:32

That is, you really did step out there and it's just an inspiration. So now can I get you back. Do you have Starlink on the boat?

Ambre Hasson: 1:23:41

No, I have zero communication with land when I'm sailing Darn.

Capn Tinsley: 1:23:46

I was hoping to get maybe an interview mid-Atlantic, but maybe after you get settled in.

Ambre Hasson: 1:23:52

Maybe. Well, we might be able to do one in the Canaries, because I'll have a bit of time in the Canaries. Perfect, okay.

Capn Tinsley: 1:24:01

So in the meantime she needs $10,000.

Ambre Hasson: 1:24:06

We want to make this happen for you.

Capn Tinsley: 1:24:06

But yeah, that would be great if I could talk to you in the canaries.

Ambre Hasson: 1:24:09

Yeah, you know, stay in touch. I won't have my phone when I'm sailing, but when I get to the canaries I'll have my phone again so we can figure something out. I'll hit you up.

Capn Tinsley: 1:24:17

I will hit you up, okay. Well, thank you so much for coming on. What a pleasure it is talking to you. You're a very humble pleasure, very pleasurable person, so and I like that, um, so how I like to end. All my podcasts is salty, abandoned out.