The Courage to Take Back Your Life with Pamela Dale

In this episode, Pamela Dale and Alyssa Nolte dive into why the dreaded “Sunday Scaries” are just a symptom of a larger problem: a work-life system that values conformity over individual fulfillment. Pamela shares her journey—from teaching ESL in Korea and struggling with self-doubt to building million-dollar funnels and becoming a sought-after coach. The conversation challenges the traditional mindset that equates success with a “good job” and instead champions the importance of following your true path, leveraging new tools, and setting your own priorities.

Key Takeaways:

• Reframe the “Sunday Scaries”: Understand that Monday’s dread is a signal to rethink an outdated work culture and reclaim your time.
• Embrace Your Unique Journey: Your path doesn’t need to mirror the traditional route—use new tools and trust your instincts to build your personal brand.
• Align Work With Values: True fulfillment comes from pursuing goals that resonate with who you are, not from adhering to conventional expectations.

Key Moments:

00:00 Introduction and Welcoming Pamela
00:15 The Sunday Scaries and Modern Work Culture
02:29 Rethinking Education and Career Paths
06:02 Pamela's Journey: From ESL Teacher to Coach
10:12 The Power of Intuition and Unspoken Communication
12:53 Navigating Corporate Politics and Personal Growth
14:53 White Labeling and Initial Client Assessment
15:30 Mindset and Overcoming Challenges
16:12 Branding and Personal Presentation
17:40 Coaching and Accountability
18:15 The Dip and Perseverance
20:47 Balancing Business and Family
22:24 Empowering Women in Business
26:46 Health and Women's Bodies
29:39 Conclusion and Final Thoughts

It's time to say "goodbye" to the Sunday Scaries.

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Transcript

Alyssa Nolte: 0:00

Hey everyone. Welcome back to taking back Monday. I am so excited that you decided to say goodbye to the Sunday scaries and hello to a new future of work, and I'm even more excited to introduce you to my new friend, Pamela. Pamela, welcome to the show.

Pamela Dale: 0:11

Thank you so much. I'm so excited to be here and take back Monday. Oh my God, how many of us have been sick to our stomachs on Sunday? Right? Uh,

Alyssa Nolte: 0:19

that is the exact reason that this, this show got started. I looked around and I saw friends and family who. Who were ruining their entire Sunday, just because tomorrow was Monday and it's like you're gonna ruin one day simply'cause the day the next day is Monday. Like, let's not do that. That sucks,

Pamela Dale: 0:37

right? Life is really short when you really start to think about it. But when. It's just Sunday, is it? I actually think it's the whole, your whole week and it just goes week after week after week after week. It's like this doom and gloom, but Sunday brings it really to your face because you know you've got one more sleep and you're back into the mess, right? Yeah. So it is a hell of a way to live.

Alyssa Nolte: 1:00

And I actually read an article a couple of, I think it was a couple years ago now, that like statistically you are most likely to die on a Monday.

Pamela Dale: 1:08

Yeah. It's just too much. I don't think that today, right, in 2025 that that's the way that work should be, or could be, or would be, or you know, all of those sh words. We are not talking about the industrial revolution anymore. We're not, you know, our parents, my parents were boomers and that was. The school system developed, and it's still that way today and it's still trying to push us into the next phase, which is the knowledge phase. Right, which is go to school, get more schooling, to get more certifications, to do what? When now I can get chat GBT to do the exact same thing for me. Right? Yeah. I don't need all of that. I'm loading macros and. You know, I don't have no science background. I got kicked outta science. So it was like, but all of a sudden I have a second brain. I've got this thing that can do all of this for me. So now it's going to be about what am I here to do? Who am I here to help? What is it that's my mark on the world and it certainly doesn't need to be working for. I don't know. Photocopying company like I used to. Right. And selling photocopiers like it. There's just so much more to life and let people sell photocopiers if that's them. But I'm thinking if you're listening to this show, you're probably the little tired of that Sunday too, and know that the world has changed and that there's money and opportunity for people who really want it. It's sitting there for the taking. Yeah. It's brilliant.

Alyssa Nolte: 2:26

And it, it is an exciting time. It's also like a daunting time, right? Yeah. So I was, I have a, a five and a 9-year-old and, um, goodness, my 9-year-old. We were talking this weekend about, um, you know, the last trimester of school, right? So we have, we just finished moon break. We're headed into the last, last little sprint. And historically that's rough for him 'cause he's just bored and over it at this point. Like, he's ready for summer. He's, he's bored of his, of what he's learning and he said something to me, um. It's all he's said the right thing.'cause he says something like, you know, I, I gotta finish school strong so that I can get good grades so that I can go to college and I can get a good job. And like, that's the right answer, I guess. But then I'm sitting there thinking like, am I teaching just a continuation of this same approach? Like, I need to get a good job, not a job I love, not a job I care about, not a job that makes a difference, A job that pays me money so that I can buy things so I can trade my time for money. Yeah, and, and I, I had this moment of, as a parent looking in like almost like a crystal ball, looking into the future. Is that what I want my kids to take away from? What is school? Well, it's nothing more than a means to money. And, and rather than saying what is school, it's an opportunity for me to learn new things, to make friends, to build connections, to learn how to learn, to understand how to think outside of the box. And that's not the lesson he's getting right now. So I was, I was working with him like, okay, this summer we're gonna do different things because I don't want you to just think of school as a, a checkbox. I have to have, it's, it's an opportunity. 10 years, a mindset shift with my 9-year-old, 10 years from now. Can you imagine where we'll be? Oh my God. The amount of change we've had over the last. Two years. Yes. I can't imagine we'll be in a whole new world in 10 years. Right. So the education system is not maybe gonna work for him. So great that you're woke enough to help him move through some other things that might help him. That's amazing.'cause the opportunities are really all about personal brand. They're about the person that you are and being that person versus what the school system or what the world tells us to be. Yeah, and I unintentionally I did that, right. Sometimes the best outcomes are unintentional, so he wants to be a YouTuber when he grows up. Now I'm sure that's gonna change, but like right now, he likes to record YouTube videos and. He knows that I know how to do that. And, um, he was like, mom, can you help me? Mm-hmm. You know, I just made a video. Can you, can you help me get it? And I said, Nope, we're gonna learn to do it together. So I made him sit down. So, you know, we learned how to use, I taught him how to use chat GPT to generate some, some description and come up with some titles. And I taught him how to edit a video and how to upload it into YouTube and how to make sure you've got all your settings set right. And so he's actually got a YouTube channel. That he's building and he's so excited. He just got 50 subscribers. Right? Oh my gosh. And he's so proud of himself. That's delicious. He's built the channel a hundred percent by himself. I really haven't done anything except for teach him how to do those things. And every once in a while, I'll video pop up, be like, oh. That's a new video. I didn't even know that was there. Now is he good at it? Not necessarily, but he's trying and he's learning and he's trying to grow a skill that I think every modern day business leader is gonna have to have, which is how do you put yourself out there? How do you tell your personal story? How do you build a brand of some kind no matter what that brand is? And how do you have the wherewithal to do it yourself without having to rely on other people to hold your hand through it? We've got 40 and 50 year olds that won't do what your nine year old's doing. Right. I know. I'm pretty, he's pretty impressive. He's pretty cool, pretty impressive. So is his mom. Yeah. Ah, thanks. Um, so let's go, let's go back to your beginning though.'cause you know, we've had a a a chance to kind of chat here a little bit, but I really wanna hear like, like what is your origin story? How did you get into this? Why did you decide that it's time to take back Monday? Such an interesting question and the, um, I, I get little Marques signs that go across my forehead and, and, um, it was, it said Korea, so I know that's probably the best place to start. But I was born before the internet. I might not look it right, but I would definitely born before the internet and the computer age came in when I was about grade seven, 10, something like that. And they were big, clunky things. And at the time I thought they were ridiculous. Right? And it's, you know, hard to find change. But I didn't know what I was gonna do with myself. Well, I ended up pregnant and then, you know, long story short, hit 40, you know, kids are grown 18, 20, 22, and I'm like, Hey, what do we do now with the rest of our life? And so somebody asked me, and I won't go through the whole story, but I end up in Korea with a high school education teaching ESL and opening private. ESL schools the best thing that ever happened to me. I became so confident I understood the world better 'cause I was like farms town, Saskatchewan, Canada, like in the middle of nowhere. I didn't have any culture understand how the world really worked, and when I came back it was a different world. You would be amazed at how strong your intuition becomes when you cannot understand language. We bamboozle each other here with the words, but something in us is telling us something's off, but we're listening to the words. When you don't have that, you come back and it's like, whoa. The world is was wide open.'cause I could hear something I could never hear. So I started the only place I knew how and that was teaching ESL $25 an hour. So it was a while ago. In the library, public library, downtown Vancouver, Canada, Korean students all over the place. And it was just one after the other, after the other, after the other. And then it got, well, now what do I do with it next? So I started going to networking meetings and started listening to people, listening to their story. And then I started a little silly podcast called The $20 Lunch Project, because I felt, honestly, Alyssa, that that was, I had no skills. I didn't think I had any skills. I just knew I could talk to people.'cause that's what made me so successful in Korea. I could talk to kids, I could talk to moms, I could talk to the doctors, I could talk to anybody. I just had like, I'm barely educated, right? So, okay, let's do that. And then slowly after interviewing a lot of people and asking people stories, they all were like, wow. You should be a coach. I'm like a coach. What do I wanna be a coach for? So I decided I'm gonna be a coach. Well then what happens is, as most people, I got in as a coach and I couldn't get a client. Couldn't get a client, couldn't get a client. I thought it was the website. I thought it was the brand I built. Website. Website. I should pull out all my business cards and brought them from Canada. There's so many beautiful stories and all the brands I built, right? And then I thought, well, that's not gonna work. So let me just go into social media marketing. And that didn't work. So let me go into funnel building. Oh, and then it finally, one day it, it started to work, but it took me a long time because I carried with me, I don't have any skills and it was the most detrimental thing I've ever said to myself I've ever thought. And it was absolutely not true. I just saw them, they were such a part of me that I couldn't even see what they were. So I saw them as just, everybody's got them. When they actually don't. So then it was like, okay, what? And then we went really big after that, right? And once we got ahold of it, we started building million dollar funnels for people and started charging a lot of money for those and building a big service based business. And then now I'm turning back to the coaching side and going, Hey, I think I can teach you how to do what I did. So it's been about a 10 year journey, but it's been very exciting. Yeah, it's, it's so funny too, like how. How we really don't see ourselves, right? And how we have these own blind spots about ourselves. I do wanna go back to your comment about, about when you, when you don't speak the language, how you have to change the way you understand communication. Because I think that was such, like when you said that, I'm like, of course. Of course that's true. And that's like, I feel like the best ideas are the ones that you sit up and you go, well, obviously that's the correct answer. Um, how have you used that skill though, to be able to say. I can hear the words you're saying, but I can also see the unintended communication that you have going on. Like how has that applied to your business and the way that you lead and, and engage with people? You are brilliant. I would not have seen it that way. So let me tell you a story. So I came back the first time, the voices were so loud, but I mean the internal, the unspoken, I could hear and see things that were so big. Because it was in my own culture, so I understood how kind of things work, right? So it was so loud. I actually had to quiet it down'cause I couldn't, because again, what people are telling me and what I knew, I didn't trust it. I didn't trust it. I didn't know that I knew something. So six years later I went back. I went back to Korea again and did it again. Somebody asked me open support schools. I'm like, yeah, okay. I'll go again. This is fun, right? Did it again. And the second time I came back, I hung onto it because I knew that that's what was going to happen as I would let go of it. But now it's actually the best gift I have. And when I was saying the marquis sign goes across my forehead, or I just get words delivered to me that they're saying this, but that's not what they're really saying. That's not what's really happening. I could hear it over there. So now it's just, I call it so I say I care so much that I don't care, meaning, I care so much about you as my client, as my friend. If you're my husband, if you're in my circle in any capacity, I care so much that I don't care what you think of me in the moment, that I'm going to make you mad. Or I'm going to say something that you don't even know is coming that you don't even know yourself is what's happening, and it will piss people off. It does to me sometimes. It's like it's a defense mechanism. It's like, no, I'm not doing that. That's not, oh, it is. Okay. You can see that. That's great. I'm good at it now. But it's very challenging when you go to somebody who's got a story that is so ingrained. But you can, it's screaming at me, right? I can hear it screaming at me. Oh, I'm gonna tell another story about this on my like, uh, story time, live thing or something.'cause this is really big. I'd forgotten about that. So that's why I'm good at it. And, and a lot of times too, I think especially as, as a, a young woman and I work in tech, right? So everyone that I talk to as a, as a middle aged or older white, white dude and white, oh yeah. I, I, I exist in this world at which I'm already an anomaly of, of what's going on. And. I, I didn't play the politics very well, right? So I've always worked for startups. I've always been small companies at which, you know, my every day really mattered. If I was off a day, then that meant the company didn't move forward, and then I started doing some consulting for some of these huge organizations. And I realized that there's so much unspoken communication, things people aren't willing to say out loud. But then as soon as the call ends, they, they head off and they do their little side chats or their little side conversations about it, or there's some hidden agenda that I wasn't aware of and I stepped in it so many times simply because I didn't have that muscle built up right. To understand what I was seeing. And because I never had to, 'cause I had existed in environments where. There's five of us. Yeah. Right. And so that was really, really hard for me though because I had to recognize and come to terms with the fact that I am great at a great many things. I am not ready for some other things'cause I have some muscles to build. And having those experience and learning the hard way, I would not wish that on anybody. Um, so when you're thinking about the people that you work with. How much of, how much of that has to be them being willing to be vulnerable and self-aware with you? Because it's a lot to have someone sit there and be like, you aren't presenting this the right way, or You are not doing this the way it needs to be done. Or This is your blind spot and you're totally missing it. Like that's gotta be stressful for some people. It takes a lot of courage. I call it just guts, right? But I charge $25,000 to build a software business for people that takes three, four months, depending on where they're at to start. And it's a white labeled version of high level. So we don't have to build a software, software just gonna white label it, right? And I go into it as an expert and as an advisor. And the first thing I do is ask them about their time, their energy, their resources, the team, the finances. I need to know that. I can't take their $25,000 knowing that they cannot build it, because it'll, they don't have anything over here to support them. So the first thing I let them know is, this is going to be hard because building a business of any type is hard. Nevermind, we're gonna build a million dollar business over here, so you better, how, how right are you with all of that? Yeah, I watch if you work with clients long enough and are a client yourself, you understand When I say you, I mean me. I mean, we right that this is about that next leveling up or whatever wording we wanna use for the mindset, right? We're going to have to break through some of it. So they're going to lose their shit about halfway through it. If I don't have that wherewithal first to know that that's what's coming, I'm gonna blame myself or blame my process or something. But it's not. It's just part of the process and putting things in place for that. And then the other part of it is, okay, we gotta walk through this. I've gotta be strong enough to walk them through them, this part of it, and tell them the truth that that's what's going on is you just need to uplevel. But I let them know right out front. And then with regards to the branding, et cetera, I'm pretty strong already. Like my branding coach said to me, what, you should maybe buy a couple of dresses. I'm like, dresses. She's like, yeah, you're so strong in your message that maybe softens some of your clothing, softens some of you, because you come off very strong. That's why we're both wearing pink today. That's why we're wearing pink today. Right? Because I'm like, I'm here. This is gonna sound even egotistical maybe, but like saving lives. Because I don't know about you, but if I can get more money into your pocket and you've got a sick child, is that not going to help you and your family and that money's just sitting here, but you don't have anyone to tell you the truth that you're off base and I've got the opportunity to say that, and I don't care what you think of me, because it's not wrapped up in me. I feel like it's my, you crossed my path. I'm gonna say something. Now, if we were best friends, I, I start the conversation with, do you want me to be your friend? Do you want me to be your coach? Do you want me to kick your ass? What do you need? Yeah. Right. Like. I have these conversations with my husband and every once in a while, 'cause I'm, I'm, I'm naturally a coach, I'm a problem solver. My neighbor nature, right? So I'm like, he'll tell me something and he's just wanting to tell me something he doesn't, you know, want help with it. And I'll just immediately go into like, solving mode. And I've had to stop. I've had to stop and tell myself and ask him, do you want sympathy or do you want solutions? Yeah. What do you need? Because like, that's a different, that's a different mindset. If you just want me to listen to you and let you like. Work it out yourself, then I will just listen. If you want me to solve it, then like, let's go solve it, right?'cause that's just my na my nature. Um, and I've had coaches before that I've worked with, right? Or people that I've worked with in a consulting role. And one of the things that always kind of grinds my gears is when they don't hold you accountable. So I had a coach who would say all the right things. He would say like, you know, you should do this. And he would like try to hold up the mirror. And then in the next month when we'd come back and nothing had changed, she'd be like the exact same script, the exact same conversation. There was no recognition of like, do you want this or not?'cause this is gonna be hard and this is gonna be difficult and you're not doing the things. So like no level of accountability. There's a, there's a book that I, I finished a couple of months ago that I recommend to everyone these days. It's called The Dip by Seth Godin. It's an old book. Yeah. Um, and it's literally just this idea that. There's a, there's a curve to success and there's that initial excitement, right? When you're like, oh, I'm so excited to build a business. It's gonna be great. I'm gonna be financially free and I'm gonna build a million dollar business. And then there's a dip that happens when it gets hard. And then after that dip is when you start to see success and you kind of mirror that in your story of like, I tried this and I tried this and I tried this, and nothing was working until something finally did. But it his, the whole premise of the book is that if you are not willing to forge your way through the dip, if you're not willing to get through that, don't even start in the first place. I don't, it's not like Instagram says it is. That dip is tears, screaming, scratching, just wailing like and financially on the edge of whatever. And emotionally on the edge and relationships on the edge.'cause you've spent so much time working or, and I say you, I mean me, like obsessing about things and trying to figure it all out. It's one of the most challenging things I've ever done and I've been through a few of those dips. Thank God I know that's now where I am. And then, okay, I know the upside, but the courage that it takes to keep going is absolutely around the goals and dreams that I have for myself and my life, because it's very easy for me to go get a job. I get offered jobs all the time, right? But I wanna do this because I wanna become the person who does this. I want to say that I've changed and grown and stepped into who I believe I really am here to be. And I think that's the other reason we need to get money into people's pockets is so that we can expand fully on what it is we're here to do. And I love talking specifically to women about this because we are 10 most of the time, underemployed. Right, unemployed or underpaid or undervalued our work and our labor. So it's very important to bring the whole conversation and get this into women's hands and show them that this is. Not easy, but we've experienced it with children. We've had children. If we've had cared for an animal, if we've cared for anybody, we know better than anyone how this works, what this looks like. We've been through the terrible twos, we've been through the whatever, whatever, and all, you know, all those stages. We know that that's the dip and we know if we hang on, but we don't let go of the children, but we'll let go of the business. So we just have been taught that it shouldn't be this way, but I'm like, grab your epidural, let's go. Exactly. No, I, I'm of the same mindset and, and I, it is a hard balance like as a woman, right, because I'm trying to build a business. I have, I have a husband and I have children and I have, you know, a house to take care of. And I'm fortunate that I have a husband who, who really, truly believes in like equal partnership in our approach. Like he does just as much bedtime, if not more than I do. He, you know, was changed all the diapers when we had babies. Like it was, it was. He's so good in that way. I know not all women have that, right? Because you have to be the, the traditional wife and the breadwinner and have to build your own business and have to be the nurse and, and the maid and all of those things. So I recognize that I'm super blessed in that way. Um, I. But I also think there's so much guilt. Like even with all of that support, I have this moment of guilt of like, well, I'm not a great mom because I'm, I'm, I'm not sitting there watching Bluey with my 5-year-old. I'm working on my business instead. And I had to act actively tell myself, no, it's okay to go do that.'cause I want her. She's five. She's a strong personality. I want her to look at me and say, mommy does things that are incredible. Mommy's so smart. Mommy's so talented. Not necess, like I wanna spend time with her, but I also want her to see that I'm a badass. We've been taught I'm a little bit older than you are. I'll take that. You know, just as a guess, we were taught that these children are our lives and these, this is my, these are my goals, and I'm going to. Smother them to death, if that's even the right word, but just all encompassing, focusing on them and saying to them, follow your dreams. Follow your dreams. Follow your dreams. What do you wanna be? What do you wanna do? You can do anything. I. But yeah, I don't do it for myself because a lot of women do not want to be full-time moms and just be moms. They want all of it as well. They've got goals and dreams themselves, but they cover it over, or it's just dead inside or they're it, they're waiting like I did till I, my kids were grown. Probably one of the biggest mistakes I ever made. If we have time, I can tell you that story. I probably, my son cried and. Um, told me he was so happy that I was finally following my dreams, that he wanted that for me my whole life. If you talk to your kids, that's actually what they want is to see you as an example, being happy. And if you are nothing or fur the furthest from that, it's of no value to those children when they step out into the real world, because that's actually what they're looking for is an example. Not living through them. Yeah, and that, that's the the thing I had to come to terms with myself, right? Like. We tell them, you can be anything. You can do anything. You can have the whole world. And yet we don't allow ourselves that same permission. And how will they, how will they learn to do anything, be everything and have the world if we don't do it first, and show them, show them how to do it, and they'll be resentful as fuck about it as they grow older and then all of a sudden you won't have that relationship that you wanted. Right, right. And of course, like all things in balance, if, if being a mother and, and a traditional life is what you want, then go for it like that. All about that, about the choice. What is it that you really want? Yeah. Tell yourself the real truth, because a lot of us are still saying, oh, I, because I'm a mom, the mom guilt out there and what's going on out there, but I know. There are women listening to this. That's not their number one way they wanna walk through life. It's part of it, right? I teach women how to ruthlessly prioritize themselves and their business just like a man would. Yeah, a hundred percent. It's not what they want, but that's what's going to happen because balance is for the circus. We've taught as what been taught as women to balance, because we have to do all of it. So of course you better fucking balance it because nobody else is coming. But I'm like, you're not a juggling act. You're not a contortionist, you're not a disappearing, you're not any of those fucking circus act, right? So what women are doing is still putting things on the planner that should have never be on the planner, and that includes dusting and that includes all of the things that we do to look good to our neighbors. Who does it really matter? We have 2-year-old birthday parties. What two year olds don't remember birthday parties? What are we doing? My kids are like five and nine and still having birthday parties with friends. I love you. Like we buy them something, but, but it's not that big of a deal. Like it's fine. It's not, they're gonna be fine. But if they've got a stressed out mother who's wanting to follow her goals but can't because of somebody's else's expectations, like house number 2 39 at the end of the. Cul-de-sac. I don't think it fucking matters what she thinks. We think it does, but it doesn't. But a lot of us are living our lives to please others, and as a result, we don't get to fully live our lives. Then we turn into Karen's. Yeah. And the kids hate us. So you've fucking blown it on every level. Right. And if you think you haven't, go ask people who are older. Yeah. Well, and, and that's, you don't wanna love, look at your life and be like, you know, I, I think that a lot of us, I. Give ourselves what I call main character syndrome. Like we think that everyone around us is looking at us and like, to be honest, our, my neighbor probably hasn't even noticed that that side of my house hasn't been painted for like a year and a half. Maybe they're like, oh, in passing, like, oh, she didn't paint the side of her house. Odds are good. That is not consuming her life in the way that it's consuming my life and the way that I'm worried about what she thinks. Don't, even if it was, don't you think she should get, get a life true. You're right. Right. Like if you, if you're up to something in your life, do you pay attention to other people's walls? No. If you're doing something important, you're not worrying about anyone else's paint color, not worrying about anybody else's life. And if I'm, when I mention the Karens, I mean, because if I'm fully in control of my own life and I'm living my own life, you know what? I don't have to find it necessary to control someone else's. That's true. That's true. It's agree a hundred percent. Yeah. So, um, I'm obsessed with this conversation. Unfortunately, we are running out of time and I wanna be respectful of your time, so we're gonna ask you our signature question. Okay. When you think of all of the, uh, people that you've had a chance to get to know, or to meet, or to listen to or follow, who in your mind is taking back Monday? Who else should we be listening to? If you're a woman anywhere near 40, Dr. Stacy Sims. Is a health, and this is a very shocking person. She came across my, my forehead when you mentioned this question before we jumped on the air. As a woman who's going through perimenopause and menopause and has struggled with weight most of my life, when she said on the podcast Diary of a CEO, that the books that are being taught are all about men's bodies and when she was in a trial back in the day. With other men, and she was on her cycle. She. Gave them her results of the tests, and he sh he said the guy that was running it, it was all white men, old white men, right? Um, those don't match up. Those are two, two, like off the charts. We're just gonna ignore those. We're gonna get rid of those. So I didn't, I knew that women's buddies bodies weren't being studied, et cetera. But I had no idea till I heard that, that I was even remotely correct, that something the fuck was up. Because if I am wanting to lose weight or going through some of the things, I had the help. Heart palpitations. They put me on a heart monitor. It turns out it was menopause. The guy had no fucking clue while I was going through what I was going through. Nobody wants to talk about this. Nobody. So I happen to be in this stage of my life. But what if you're 20 and 30? And you don't know that every trainer you've been to, every doctor you've been to has been reading a book based on, because when they do clinical trials for anything, who's the number one person that signs up for those trials? College age men, not even women. It's men that do it statistically. Go look it up. So everything that we've been taught about everything. Regarding weight and health, it has been run through a 22-year-old guy. So I gotta tell you, I don't want 22-year-old men deciding anything for me, let alone healthcare in my future. A doctor's been educated that way, so if you wanna take back Monday, we've gotta take back control over our health and our bodies because if I don't know about you, but I felt batshit crazy for a little while, it consumes me when I'm trying to get healthier and I can't. What's in the way? And I did everything. I did blood work, I did everything. I couldn't figure it out. No one was talking about what was going on for me. So if you've got health problems, please know that where you're being treated. Ask them if they are aware of the studies that, are they studying women now? Are they looking at women? Are they looking at the results and go look her up if nothing else to recalibrate what you think is the truth. Not only about health, but everything we've been taught specifically about women. I love that. And if someone is, is really connecting with you, if they wanna learn more, where can they find you online? The client coach.com. Awesome. Well, thank you so much for taking back Monday with me. I really appreciate it. It's such a great conversation. Alyssa, thank you so much for the time. Thanks for joining us on taking back Monday where we say goodbye to the Sunday scaries and hello to meaningful and fulfilling work. If you enjoyed today's episode, let's connect on LinkedIn. I'd love to hear your thoughts, and if you found value here, share the podcast with your network. Don't forget to like, subscribe, and leave a review. It helps us inspire more leaders to join the movement. Until next time, let's take back Monday.