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Hunts On Outfitting Podcast
Dream Hunts Unleashed: From Mountains To Skies To The Air
Have you ever imagined your ultimate hunting adventure, free from the limits of budget or geography? Join me, Ken Marr, as we kick off the second season of the Hunts and Outfitting Podcast by exploring our wildest hunting fantasies. Picture this: the sound of hounds echoing through the vast mountains of Montana as we pursue mountain lions—not for the kill, but for the thrill and camaraderie. My friend Logan Elliott shares his own vision, one where childhood memories merge with the grandeur of Southeast British Columbia’s Kootenay Range. There, with bow in hand, he dreams of hunting Rocky Mountain elk on horseback, relishing the tradition and adventure of the wild. Ryan Wesselius shares his dream hunt also which is for elk, but with some different twists on the hunt.
The excitement doesn't stop there. Dalton Patterson dream is Imagine taking to the skies for a helicopter pig hunting adventure in Texas, where the challenge is as physical as it is exhilarating. From unlimited ammo to night hunts for predators, this Texan Hunter Package promises an adrenaline-filled experience that caters to hunters at various fitness levels. We discuss the logistics and thrills of helicopter hunting, emphasizing the camaraderie and unforgettable stories that such adventures create. It's a true taste of Texan wildness, where the heart races as fast as the rotor blades.
Finally, we traverse continents without leaving our chairs, dreaming of Cape Buffalo in Africa, muskox in the Yukon, and the majestic red stag of New Zealand. Our discussions weave through the ethical tapestry of high-fence hunting, the physical demands of mountainous sheep hunts, and the artistry of hunting large game with a bow. We humorously muse about caliber choices and the reckless allure of helicopter hog hunts, celebrating the wild dreams that fuel our passion for the outdoors. Tune in to explore these adventures and more, as we embark on an unforgettable journey through the world of dream hunts.
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this is hunts and outfitting podcast. I'm your host and rookie guide, ken marr. I love everything hunting the outdoors and all things associated with it, from stories to how to's. You'll find it here. Welcome to the podcast. Yes, welcome, and thanks for listening all of you from wherever you are in the world. I'm pretty excited for this podcast episode, as always, but this is the first one for season two and it's all about dream hunts. I know deep down, all of you guys and gals listening that hunt have that one dream hunt. Maybe some of you have been lucky enough to already do it. This episode was filmed and will be on our YouTube page Hunts on Outfitting Podcast.
Speaker 1:Also speaking about YouTube, if you have listened to episode 43, a friend of mine was on, jacob Armstrong. I had a great chat with him and later on in the episode, jacob started to talk about some wild game cooking and he enjoys doing it and some of his recipes. Well, I had a few people after that podcast reach out to me and ask more about Jacob and some of his recipes. Him and I filmed the first cooking episode for the YouTube page. How to Create Venison Meat Mash Country Boy Steaks is the title. It was delicious dish done by him. Check it out you might. It's really easy to do. He explains it all quite well. I think you're going to like it. If you guys want to reach out to me on Facebook, you can hunt an outfitting or email me huntsonoutfitting at gmailcom.
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Speaker 1:Now to kick things off for season two, which you know, guys, give yourselves a little slap on the back something. We have made it to season two. This is episode number one of season two. We have gone through 52 episodes, which everyone listening, everyone that came on as guests, thank you very much. I didn't think we'd make it here. So to kick things off for season two, we've decided to do. I've got myself and three other friends here. We're going to talk about our dream hunts. Our dream hunts, our dream hunts, you know, are something that I told the boys. I said money's no object, don't worry about anything. If you could go anywhere in the world, hunt any animal in the world, what would it be? Uh, so we have all chosen right, our dream hunts. And, um, well, I'm just gonna go first, because normally I go last and this time I'm going first. So this hunt here that I've chosen, I've got it written down right as you go. So my dream hunt if I could go anywhere in the world, hunt anything would be a mountain lion hunt with hounds.
Speaker 1:Why? Because, as a houndstomber myself, I just love the sound of the hounds. It's not necessarily the thrill of the kill. I would go. I would go anywhere in the world. I'm not being picky or particular as to where I would, but gun to my head.
Speaker 1:If I had to choose a place, it would be Montana. Why? Well, mountain lions can be hunted in. I don't surprise about this too many places Washington, oregon, nevada, arizona, utah, idaho, montana, wyoming, colorado, new Mexico, south Dakota, north Dakota, texas and Canada. We got British Columbia and Alberta. According to Google, colorado has the best hunting for trophy animals taken, but montana is also on that list for some of the best hunting.
Speaker 1:Montana is home to an abundant lion population. So I got thinking around about it and, uh, you know montana, knowing for its big skies and really great abundant natural resources, I thought that's where I'd like to go. I'd go anywhere and not even necessarily to kill a lion, but just to tag along. Every year I go tag along with a friend of mine in Maine and to tag along to hunt black bear with hounds, and I don't care to shoot or anything, just to go along and be part of it. And I talked to a guy the other night from Utah and he's been hunting lions for over 30 years. Never shot one. Just loves to go, loves to get his hands out.
Speaker 3:Is that common to hunt for 30 years and never shoot one?
Speaker 1:He just likes to go. My friend Mike in Maine he's never shot a bear.
Speaker 3:Are you saying he's not that good, or what are you saying no?
Speaker 1:they treat them all the time.
Speaker 3:Okay, I'll never get one though.
Speaker 1:So like, so, like you get like Is that normal? Yeah, he just he just guides, for he got for them. He just it's like me going out with the beagles, with after the rabbit. Yeah, sometimes I shoot, sometimes I just right, let him go.
Speaker 3:So he's actually been on a lot of hunts, a lot yeah, he's got his own, a part of a lot of kills, just haven't yeah.
Speaker 4:Yeah, gotcha, that's right.
Speaker 1:See, as my friend Mike, he's been on many, many bear hunts. That he's got. He's got successful ones, all of them, a lot of them, successful. He's never shot one.
Speaker 3:Really.
Speaker 1:Nope, nope, interesting. Just as a houndsman likes to go along, that's what I'd like to do. So I'd go anywhere in those places to hunt them. But if I had so I mean. Montana is home to an abundant lion population, becoming the 41st state on November 8th 1889,. It is known for its wide open skies, mountains, abundant big game hunting. Thanks to conversation, conservation efforts.
Speaker 3:Thanks to great conversation.
Speaker 1:Thanks to conservation efforts and hunters alike. With 97 different mountain ranges, over 3,000 pristine lakes and beautiful rivers, including the longest undammed river in the continental US, montana seems like a place I have not been to. I would love to see Logan stop and it'd be great to be able to explore that place with an outfitter and with their hounds and see after a line, see all that Montana has to offer. So their season. So I was looking this up. The season in Montana is roughly from December 1st to April 14th. Some places I saw March 31st We'll say December to. I saw March 31st We'll say December to end of March roughly.
Speaker 4:So it's a spring season.
Speaker 2:I guess more of a winter, it's winter.
Speaker 1:That'd be winter, Logan.
Speaker 4:Do you know if there's any reason for that?
Speaker 1:That's what it is, yeah.
Speaker 2:When's our breeding?
Speaker 4:season? I'm not sure.
Speaker 2:I'm guessing it's later. I'm guessing it's yeah. When's our breeding season? Yeah.
Speaker 1:I'm not sure. Is there a rut too?
Speaker 2:I'm guessing it's after April. Well, that would be when the kittens are older too, so you're not running fresh kittens too.
Speaker 3:Do lions have kittens? Is that what a baby lion is called? Yep, it's called kitten.
Speaker 1:Yep. So the best hunting I mean some places they don't get any snow, but the best hunting, from what I've been looking up and read, is when you have some snow for the dogs to get that good scent and for you to find the tracks. And then the guides are judging by the size of the tracks if it's a big trophy tom or not and worth going after. Uh, for the prices. This is why it's a dream hunt. From what I saw in montana, the average price is about 6800,800 to about $8,800 US. The gun that I would choose I was looking around a lot and I kind of figured this would work. So they say that blinds aren't really that hard to kill. I'd like to use if I did it would be a Lever Action 30-30. I'd like to just tag along for the experience of it, but if I was actually shooting that's what I'd use.
Speaker 3:You probably have an experience if you shot a 3030. What's a big trophy cat?
Speaker 4:So big trophy cat?
Speaker 1:Yeah, One one 50 to one 80. Yeah, that's. That's a pretty good size cat right there.
Speaker 4:Wow, it's a pretty scary kitty.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah. So that's what I'd like to use for a gun if I was shooting. It'd be something light to carry along and then you've got that rounded bullet. So that way, when the cat's treed up a tree, you've got the branches and all that. The bullet's just going through that and it's a bush gun. Right, you're going to be shooting probably through some bushes because the line will be treed.
Speaker 1:The outfitter I was looking at a lot of different outfitters. They all seem really good, but I decided to use. If I was going to use one, it'd be Montana Mountain Lion Adventures. They're in Whitehall, Montana. They started in 2015. They probably will be doing a podcast later this season on the show, so that's exciting.
Speaker 1:So the guy that runs it, scott. He's a second-generation outfitter. They only take a few clients each year to ensure a good hunt and that your odds of a trophy tom are a lot better and higher. So they're not. You know, just out shooting everything. I've been told from different people that some outfitters do that, that they yeah, that's a whole other conversation, I guess. But some just see every cat as a dollar sign and this outfitter here does not. They want to get big trophy taunts, mature lions, so they're hunting there.
Speaker 1:It's about five full days. They use trucks side-by-sides and snowmobiles with custom dog boxes to help to get as close to the treed cat as possible. So I mean they said your day starts really early. They're going to be out driving. I mean we'll probably have them on the podcast to tell more and then they're going to find a good size cat track, determined from that track. All right, this is good Big male Tom that we're going to go after and then, as soon as daylight comes up, send the dogs on on their way and then hopefully the dogs work their magic and within could be a day, couple days, few hours, they will have that cat treed and that's when you can make your decision to shoot it. Like I said, as a houndstooth myself, I'd be really excited just to see the hounds work and do their thing and that is my dream hunt of any animal, anywhere, any continent. If I had to choose, it'd be mountain lion hunting with hounds. So I'm Ken Meyer and that's my hunt. Who is next? I want a name and your hunt.
Speaker 4:I guess I'll go next next down the line. Logan Elliott, been on before. Do you recognize my voice or not? That's okay, my dream hunt, looking into it. Well, always my dream hunt has been, definitely even since I was a kid, watching hunting shows. Growing up was always elk, kind of narrowed it down to Rocky Mountain elk out in BC. Kind of wanted to always kind of want to stay in Canada. I don't know, I just like Canadian hunting, grew up watching a lot of shows around canada, just always the rocky mountains to me. Where I found the spot where I want to go, southeast beats southeast bc. It's um I'm gonna butcher the pronouncing, sorry for anyone's out there or their guides out there it's the kootenai range that sounds right k-o-O-O-T-E-N-A-Y area out in Southeast BC it's basically a giant.
Speaker 4:from what I've seen, just a giant belt of mountain ranges, including the Rockies, just big rugged country. I don't know, just the. I've always thought, just sitting up on a hill, on a side hill in BC, on the Rocky Mountains, like I've only ever flown over, flown over them myself, and I still remember that to this day from when I was 11 years old I I remember flying over them and I can't imagine hunting them and being in them like sitting up on top on a sunrise and an elk bugle down in the bottom.
Speaker 4:For me personally, personally, if I went I'd be bow. Only I'd want an archery hunt elk just as close to that big of a majestic animal as you could possibly get. I don't even know if I'd be able to shoot if one came in, because I've never personally seen one in my life so far. But the the guide I found was uh sawtooth outfitters, located in uh, I think it's kimberly bc, but in that couldn't even mountain range area, and that's where they hunt over 350 000 acres of just pure wilderness and that's what they have to themselves.
Speaker 4:Yeah, based on that and just um, yeah, they're what I'd say like. They're around like 22 lakes and 13 different valleys anywhere from 3 to 14 miles long. That basically well like valley hunting. From what I've even seen on tv, it seems to be a whole lot of big bull elk. I'd like to go. I'd like, well, the archery season, for there seems to be early September, kind of the first of the 10th area, so I'd like to go for a seven day hunt. What's cool about Sawtooth? What I found too, is you can the only they have. A base price of it was around $9,000. And then in that, elk hunt included, you can go after muleys, white tail. Oh, there was one other. I'm going to mess it up again. I think it was wolves. Actually. All right, yeah, all you got to add on is the tag and probably black bear. I can't remember if it was black bear or wolves.
Speaker 2:It was one of the two. It seems like it'd be separate, though.
Speaker 4:You usually have to add the tag on, so like if you shot your elk second day, add a tag and just keep going. And so, and from what I saw on the website, just, they've been around for a lot of years and it's been a great outfitter. A lot of big elk, a lot over 300 inch elk, which is well giant yeah For us out here like 900 to 1100 pound elk. That's a, that's a moose, that's an Eastern moose for what we hunt here in.
Speaker 4:Brunswick, yeah so. Yeah, I just couldn't. So it's basically a you get there the day before and it's just a more or less a pack out trip, like start at the main lodge and then pack out.
Speaker 4:You're not coming back at the end of the day to stay at the lodge You're going out From what I understand, like you're going out and like what I'd like to do and how I'd saw it, and what they seem to do is packing on horses or side-by-sides depending on where you're going, go up in the mountain ranges, pack out in tents and then basically just start your morning an hour before, like get out and then bugle in the morning and just try to get on a big bugle in the morning and just try to get on a big.
Speaker 1:So you're hunting during the rut because they're bugling during the rut, I'm guessing.
Speaker 4:Yeah, right, yeah, archery season is, I think, a little early from what I understand for rut, but as archery seasons tend to be, yeah, because there's well a lot of less hunting pressure too, so it might be easier to find bulls.
Speaker 2:I'm not sure, never been elk hunting Close to moose, like with the moose, too, here.
Speaker 1:Okay.
Speaker 3:All right, I think the horseback would be really cool. Yeah, I think that would really add to the thing.
Speaker 1:If you weren't used to horses, though you're growing an area.
Speaker 4:What do you think? Just like I'd love to, just want to see. Well, a lot of what they use.
Speaker 2:The horses, for, too, is just carrying your gear.
Speaker 4:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Especially if you're like if with a hunt, like what he was talking about there, if you're packing up and then you're just staying out there. You got tents and food and you got, you know, your rifle, your rifle, your probably carrying just all your packs and stuff like that.
Speaker 4:They would have it pretty packed down and they'd be so used to taking it, but like for me to put 80 pounds on my back and then throw 5,000 feet elevation at me.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, and then throw 5,000 feet of elevation at me, oh yeah.
Speaker 4:Like as much as I'd love to say, how much I'd love to go out there and actually test myself, as much as see elk or do elk. I'd just like to see how, because I always watch on TV and it never. Well, it'd just be the experience, Well it's like if I shot a big elk, great, but if I could even, just what would make it for me is sitting on the side of a mountain, glassing bugling, and hear that one bugle down from the bottom of the valley.
Speaker 1:That would make the dream hunt.
Speaker 2:That would make the dream hunt pretty well. I agree with you there, yeah.
Speaker 4:Like just sit, just hearing an elk bugle across a mountain, even just on a sunrise morning, hunting them out in the middle of nowhere. No sunrise morning hunting them out in the middle of nowhere. No one else knows where you are. Just yeah, just one of those things I guess is probably mostly hunters listening to this. Everyone knows that feeling of sitting in the woods on a sunrise and no one else knows that you're even there and you can just take it all in including the landowner, except the guy in green pants walking up.
Speaker 1:Yeah, no, but that's it. That's good, logan. Yeah, I like that, like I said with me, with the mantline hunt, not even the kill, just experiencing it.
Speaker 2:That's what hunting is.
Speaker 4:Don't get me wrong, I'd love to shoot a big 6x6, 420 hand shell.
Speaker 1:Still, you get a lot out of the experience. Just what you said.
Speaker 3:Even if I could just see the Rocky Mountains alone.
Speaker 4:Just to hike the Rocky mountains alone. Just you'd forget even about the fact you're hunting, I think, when you're out there, but especially doing archery too, like archery for me. I I'm a big archery, I have an archer myself, and I think that'd be just. If I'm going on a dream hunt like those, I can't see myself taking a gun, all right.
Speaker 1:No, I can't see myself taking a gun, all right. No, that's good, that's fair enough. Dream hunt, ryan.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I'll go next. Uh, Ryan, I'm uh pretty similar to Logan. I guess I'm around here in New Brunswick. We can hunt deer, we can hunt moose, so for me it's always been.
Speaker 2:I guess elk it's you know massive set of antlers but more, I guess, is where you get to hunt. I'm not too specific in the area, I guess, like I for me, if I could hunt anywhere where those elk are, as long as it's kind of in that mountainous range, I'd be pretty happy. But I was looking at two elk outfitters. I was looking at a couple or I guess it was more than two, a couple that were in BC, but then I looked at one in Idaho that I really liked. It was called Mile High Outfitters.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:And if we're going real dream hunt here, they had one hunting package that they offered where they would pick you up from the airport you fly in yeah.
Speaker 2:They bring you to their main lodge where they do most of their hunts out of, but then they have a runway strip there and they'll fly you then in another hour. They said it's about two days of horseback riding to get to this place, like when they actually have to bring a lot of stuff in and out, wow. And then you hunt from this lodge there that they have set up. So you'll start your morning. You're always in the lodge that's your base camp, yep and then every morning before daylight you'll actually pack out from there and then you'll start bugling right about daylight and then you will hunt from there.
Speaker 1:And this one's in Idaho. This is in Idaho. Okay yeah, because that's one of the places too, like I said, I looked at for mountain lion hunting too. I mean, they've got, it's unique looking there.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and I mean Beautiful looking, that borders Montana and that borders BC, where Logan was talking about, so it's all like it's all part of that Rocky Mountain belt. So you're hunting essentially the same. You'd be hunting the same mountain lion and the same elk and for me, yeah, the reason it's a dream hunt it's just not the kill. That's a cherry on top. But I guess it's getting to experience that kind of country, yeah guess it's getting to experience that kind of country.
Speaker 2:Yeah, like just just seeing something new packing up, heading up in the hills, glassing, you know, the hearing of the bugling would be cool. But then you get to see a lot of other game there too. Like they got mule deer, they get. You get the chance to see, uh, like mountain lion, you get the chance to see wolf, you get all that kind of stuff that's there. Yeah, uh, it's the same thing where, where, if you happen to shoot an elk early in your hunt, you have the option for that other tag if you want something. But I mean even just the next couple of days, just to, if you shot something, just leaving from camp and going out just exploring would be cool enough.
Speaker 1:Well, yeah, yeah, I think they have like decent fishing too and some of their little river systems and stuff like that.
Speaker 2:Yeah, if you were to get like the fishing permit there, I'm sure yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but just yeah, like you said, just being there in a new place and being able to explore it.
Speaker 2:I think it'd be. Yeah, and in this spot you're completely on your own, like there's no hydro, there's no nothing. Like you're there, they have power set up because there's a camp cook there so, like every night, when you get back, you get warm food, they got little bunkies.
Speaker 3:The guides have their spots, yeah like the camping part would be nice, like Logan said, but it would be nice to come home to come back to like warm food but you'd want to do the horseback thing, eh, ryan?
Speaker 2:this place here? They said I don't horseback and uh, so like you pack all your trip and yeah, yeah you you take that just to get where you got to go, because there's no way of taking four wheelers or side by sides. And if they had those there, it's a pain too, because then you're lugging in fuel and like we're none of us.
Speaker 1:I've ridden horse, and I think all of us here have, but I'm not a horse men and riding them a lot. Like you'd be sore, yep, you'd be sore, but on this, this website they are very strict where they say there's a 250 pound limit, all right If you were over this.
Speaker 2:Like you, were not able to go on horseback. It's too hard on their horses for the country that they have to travel.
Speaker 3:Too hard on them, probably too risky.
Speaker 4:Because once you get over that, that's the thing about a lot of these.
Speaker 1:That's good that they put that.
Speaker 4:A lot of these elk hunts like you watch videos of elk hunts, especially sheep hunts, like nothing about it. Is luxurious on the body.
Speaker 2:It's very it is demanding. They have quite a big write-up where they say that this is very physically demanding, yeah, and you know, if you do your preparation and you're in good shape, like that will increase your odds of having that's really good at the outfitter doing that.
Speaker 1:It's kind of doing their um like I don't know. You'd say due diligence, due diligence yes because they're not mixing words, they're not just trying to grab your money and bring whoever in. You know 350 pound louis like they're telling you like, look, you've got to be in some good shape. No, no, if you are, if you, you know 350-pound Louie, like they're telling you. Like, look, you've got to be in some good shape.
Speaker 2:Well, no, if you are, if you, you know, if you're a heavier set guy, I'm sure they have hunts to cater to them where you can set out on an ATV or a UTV or an Ergo, whatever it is Like a wheelchair ramp.
Speaker 4:Well, the thing is, you even imagine dropping all of for a kilometer walk if it was dead flat. You'd be sucking for air pretty quick, I bet.
Speaker 1:I wouldn't.
Speaker 4:I'm just taking a guess you would be.
Speaker 2:I'd meet you there. We'll speak for yourselves, yeah, that air's thinner 5,000 feet elevation.
Speaker 4:Ken's at 4,999 feet elevation.
Speaker 1:I'm a little shorter than the people in this room. Yeah, that's besides the point.
Speaker 2:I'm also in very good shape. That's another conversation, isn't it kind?
Speaker 1:of. Yeah, I'm average, you guys are just tall. Yeah, that's the next. Um, I like that, though. It's good, that's. Uh, that's good and that's okay that you guys chose the same animal. Uh, it just makes this a little less unique. No, I'm just kidding. It's good, it's your dream hunt, whatever you want to do, and, uh, the elk thing, I think that's really cool. Dalton, yes, what Dream hunt? Money's no object. Whatever you want to hunt, the animal has to be living, not extinct or in a zoo or anything.
Speaker 3:Okay, I can't go hunt the Loch Ness Monster.
Speaker 1:No, damn it. Well, actually, that'd be pretty cool. I'm out, I'm going home.
Speaker 2:Shamu the whale Big flip. Shamu the whale Bigfoot so.
Speaker 3:I'm Dalton, by the way, so my hunt is way less elegant and way less majestic but, I think, way more fun. All right, let's hear it my hunt. I am going with the boys helicopter pig hunting.
Speaker 1:Ah, that'd be cool, that'd be pretty cool.
Speaker 3:They have packages where you can party hunt with helicopters yeah, and you can take multiple helicopters with multiple people. So can you imagine like a couple of us in each helicopter?
Speaker 1:that would be fun I've seen, though I've been hog hunting in florida, not from a helicopter, yep, so is now, is it mainly a partial to texas, where it is more wide open, there's less foily I honestly don't know, I I really don't hear I? I don't anyways maybe know, I don't hear about helicopter hunts for hogs in other states, really.
Speaker 3:It could be a legality thing too, because I feel like Texas probably has some stuff going on that nobody else does.
Speaker 2:Yeah, they usually hunt it over ag land.
Speaker 4:It's usually small batteries, flush them out in the fields, From what I've watched on videos.
Speaker 3:So the outfitter is helicopter pig hunting. That's what they're called.
Speaker 1:Hey, that's a good name.
Speaker 3:They're the only full-time helicopter hog hunting outfitter in Texas. Wow, so they've got a package called the Texan Hunter Package. Okay, $4,875, american a person for a group of four Okay, that's. Two hours of helicopter, pig hunting, coyote gun run on ranch Three nights, all-inclusive lodging, unlimited ammo. Team UTV exotic scavenger hunt on ranch.
Speaker 2:I have no idea what that is Is that $4,900 a person Is that 4,900 a person.
Speaker 4:Yeah.
Speaker 3:So for 20 grand, so Team UTV Exotic Scavenger Hunt on Ranch. I have no idea what that even means I'm in.
Speaker 1:Sounds exotic.
Speaker 3:Yeah, pretty much. So we're not done yet Probably Strangle and Armadillo or something right, sporting clays. Two boxes of 25 shells, all right, so go skeet shooting. While we're there, 100 rounds of rifle shooting. Also, the last thing, two rounds of .50 cal BMG. See.
Speaker 1:I've never been to Texas, but it sounds freaking awesome. Yeah, and this whole package that you're talking about sounds really Texas.
Speaker 4:Basically it's like five grand to shoot unlimited guns for three days Just kill stuff and shoot guns.
Speaker 3:Fly around in helicopters. Can you imagine?
Speaker 2:That'd be pretty cool. Yeah, that is really awesome. Welcome to.
Speaker 1:Texas, we're going to shoot a whole shitload of guns all guns to sizes.
Speaker 4:We're going to fly around in helicopters and shoot more guns. We're going to scavenger hunt for more guns.
Speaker 1:We'll run out of animals. There's clays to shoot at.
Speaker 3:There's also a $1,200 add-on per shooter. We're at about $24,800 Now for four guys.
Speaker 1:This is why it's a dream hunt.
Speaker 3:Predator and hog night hunt, so professionally guided hunt. An elevated, custom fabricated Night hunting rig.
Speaker 2:Opportunity to harvest.
Speaker 3:Opportunity to harvest bobcat, gray fox, coyote, coons and wild pigs.
Speaker 2:Sounds good to me. How could you not have fun With four guys doing that harvest bobcat, gray fox, coyote, coons and wild pigs. So whatever you see really Sounds good to me.
Speaker 3:Yeah, like, how could you not have fun?
Speaker 4:with four guys doing that right, that's actually 1,200 a person.
Speaker 3:For the add-on for the night hunt.
Speaker 2:So I'm guessing it's night hunt like every night kind of thing Even if it's one night hunt, that's still pretty sweet.
Speaker 1:I don't know. I'm guessing the night hunt's not during, not during the day. I think it's in the dark.
Speaker 4:That'd be a long, two days, helicopter and scavenger hunting all day.
Speaker 1:That hunt would also be brought to you by Red Bull.
Speaker 2:Red Bull and Federal Premium Ammunition.
Speaker 3:But yeah, anyway, that would be my dream hunt. I like that, just an experience that you would never, ever duplicate here, but the same as your guys' right, Just a different. It's a dream, well?
Speaker 2:they all have kind of the common theme.
Speaker 4:where none of them is we can't afford them no not that None of them is all focused on the kill. It's everyone's experience.
Speaker 2:Yeah, like Ken it was the kills. You know it's cool but it's not necessary.
Speaker 4:If I'm in a helicopter, I'm killing some hogs. Well, with Dalms, yeah, there's no way to not kill, but I mean the experience of all of that is what you're there for.
Speaker 3:But can you imagine shooting a machine gun out of a helicopter? Can you imagine I could just?
Speaker 4:shoot it to the ground and be happy.
Speaker 3:Yeah, let alone out of a helicopter.
Speaker 2:Shoot it to the next helicopter.
Speaker 1:I'd pay them good money just to take me in a helicopter and me shoot at frigging clay pigeons.
Speaker 4:Yeah, Like yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, just to say that maybe that's just a Wednesday afternoon for a Texan, but for us.
Speaker 3:it's pretty neat. For New Brunswickers that's once in a lifetime and not even that yeah.
Speaker 1:But I mean that's why you know it's good to have dream hunts, because you never know. You never know Because the thing I like about this is I like to ask a lot of hunters like what's your dream hunt? And a lot of them. There's two answers that you should get. They either know right off or they're like you know.
Speaker 3:I've never really thought about that before because it's honestly quite unreachable for the average person.
Speaker 1:I don't know, but some people, like I said, they know right off or they just don't know, and I always like to you know kind of get their wheels to like you know, what would you add For?
Speaker 2:me, and why. I guess too, it's always interesting to know.
Speaker 3:Like the elk thing would be cool. But for me, like there's a few things that I want to do with whitetail, first I'd like to accomplish and then I feel like I'd be willing to move on to something like a bigger challenge.
Speaker 2:But for me, like I'd like to do a little better with whitetails and then kind of work my way to it. I guess if I had to pick my trajectory I really like for me the elk is a dream, but it's also maybe the most achievable just by when the season is. We're really busy through the summer and then in the fall we're really busy. So like the beginning of September.
Speaker 1:And what is that that you're busy with growing?
Speaker 2:Like dairy farming.
Speaker 1:Okay so we're either.
Speaker 2:There's kind of a transition time where we're finished fourth cut grass and between that and starting up corn silage, and so elk season being usually the first to like the first week of September being bow season is really achievable, like that's a kind of a timeframe I can hit, and then after that when the rifle season starts, like the early part of the rifle season is generally not too busy for us, so it makes it at a time of the year when it's possible, like to try to do a dream whitetail hunt would be impossible to try to go in October, November, big bucks here.
Speaker 1:You're going to get trophy bucks here.
Speaker 2:I would. I would be, uh, either one, Either one. I think bow would be cool just to have them that close, but either one I'd be happy with. I think for me it's more when the time of the year would work, because bow season for elk gives you that early season in September when they're hitting like a pre-rut, but then rifle season when it starts more mid-September.
Speaker 1:I can start to get busy. The bow would add to the challenge because you guys are talking like I've been tailed bird and been around elk in person and they, from my experience they are really skittish. They're in herds. There's a lot of ears, there's a lot of eyes, there's a lot of noses.
Speaker 4:It's like a big flock of Canada geese on the ground.
Speaker 1:And it'd be tricky. Yeah, it'd be really tricky.
Speaker 4:Yeah, I think I picked elk too, because I think it's one of the things.
Speaker 1:I think they're a magnificent animal.
Speaker 4:I think it's one of the most obtainable things that I could actually go do, and if I was going to pick one, I think it's just something I'd want to do. I should say I'm going to do.
Speaker 2:And you can never have that on the East Coast either. No, no, that's the thing, See.
Speaker 3:I was going to say, I was honestly going to say Alaskan moose, if I had to pick something big.
Speaker 1:That's a good one, but we can get big moose here, but your hog one's cool, although you cannot get Alaskan-sized moose. No.
Speaker 2:And also it's the experience where you're hunting them. We're guys hunting moose in New Brunswick, but the experience there is a lot different.
Speaker 4:It looked like a white-tailed deer compared to an Alaskan moose.
Speaker 1:Yeah, If I had to pick a second one, I mean it's probably no one went.
Speaker 4:My elk's the size of a moose here. If I got a big one, no one went with it.
Speaker 1:Well, no one went with another continent here. We stayed within North America. I mean, if I had to pick a I mean, like I said, I'm a houndstman first and foremost I'd take that hound hunting over anything. But if I had to pick something else, you know it'd be- I'd go to another continent, It'd be Africa for Cape Buffalo. That's cool yeah.
Speaker 3:Africa would be neat, I think, once you get into it.
Speaker 1:But I'm not a big world traveler or leopard hunting with hounds there, which I think we're going to have somebody on the podcast. Yes, I guess it's very wild.
Speaker 3:I bet it is.
Speaker 1:Yeah, the leopards are like 10 times more vicious than a cougar.
Speaker 4:Really. Yeah, I'd probably go shoot like an onyx. They use a lot of dogs.
Speaker 1:Red stag are pretty incredible hunts too, orcs, I don't know, I don't know.
Speaker 4:I just remember Cabela's Big Game Hunter Africa. Yeah, I remember I learned a lot about African hunting from playing that game.
Speaker 2:I'm not a gamer by any means, but when I was younger I did have Cabela's.
Speaker 3:African.
Speaker 1:Hunter and I learned a lot about it, eland, yes, the cool thing about Texas is that you can hunt, you can check off a lot of your African big game hunting from Texas.
Speaker 2:If you want a high fence, yes, it is high fenced, I am so okay with high fence.
Speaker 3:That doesn't bother me in the least, I think it's cool.
Speaker 4:I don't think I'd ever hunt high fence.
Speaker 2:It's more like purchasing livestock than it is hunting.
Speaker 1:It's different. Some of these high fence places are like thousands and thousands of acres.
Speaker 2:And a corn feeder in the middle.
Speaker 1:There's a lot of corn 82 corn I don't think I'd ever hunt high fence. I don't think I doesn't Like if I'm going to go somewhere and pay to do something I would never hunt high fence. It'd be a. You'd get some shooting done. I'd do it all with a gun too.
Speaker 2:I was talking me and Logan were talking about the elk hunting thing and we were looking at one outfitter I don't even I can't remember the name of it, and it was. You could pay to pick the size of elk that you wanted.
Speaker 3:Pay per inches but we were talking before.
Speaker 4:Like a 500 inch plus elk is like 25.
Speaker 3:I think a lot of those big high fence white tail places are like that too. But we were talking about it, we're like I don't know if I'd want to prepay for the size of animal I want, because then I already know what I'm going Like.
Speaker 2:I want the hunt, it's different. I want the chase of what I could see. I don't whether it's a smaller or bigger bull.
Speaker 4:If I'm going to hunt high fence whitetails, they're going to send me eight pictures of these. Are the deer you could shoot, and I'm like I know I would assume.
Speaker 2:That is how it is. It's still a trophy.
Speaker 1:It's still. Is it? It's ethical? Yes, is it cheating?
Speaker 3:Yeah, it is yeah but I can go, we're not going to mix words cheating, but is it cool and unique?
Speaker 1:Yeah, I'm not knocking it.
Speaker 3:I can go to my pasture and drop a cow, or I could charge you to do it. It wouldn't be much, I don't even think.
Speaker 4:I'd honestly enjoy it.
Speaker 1:I don't know.
Speaker 4:I don't know, it's just not for me.
Speaker 1:I've never been in that position. We're talking.
Speaker 3:We have endless money.
Speaker 1:We're not talking, we all make our salaries If money was no object for your dream hunt? All of us are truck drivers, you'll never achieve your dream hunt driving a truck.
Speaker 3:Well, maybe you will, I don't know, unless it's filled with cocaine.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's too much, dalton. Like I said, if I had to choose another, one different continent, it'd be Cape Buffalo and Africa. I mean, if you guys had to choose just right offhand another spot, doesn't that have to be another continent? Your second runner up, you know rafts in Africa. All right, that's cool Headshot.
Speaker 4:I always thought muskox would be cool.
Speaker 2:Of course don't want to hunt something with a neck yeah.
Speaker 4:I think actually I'd go muskox. That's why I hate them. They have one. No, no, I'd actually go up with my buddy in Yukon and go bison hunting in Whitehorse.
Speaker 1:Actually, the bison- hunting would really cool. The bison hunt is probably my third pick.
Speaker 4:Yeah, bison anywhere. Yeah, yeah, I go. I think I'd still go Yukon.
Speaker 2:Ryan if you had to pick a second one. It would either be red stag.
Speaker 1:Cool In New Zealand. Yep Nice.
Speaker 2:Or it would be. I guess they're incredible to hear. Oh yeah.
Speaker 3:They roar, they roar.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so it would be that Could you do one?
Speaker 1:for us, Grant. Uh no, I don't know how to do it. It would either be that or it'd be a similar style.
Speaker 2:Like, I think, most of my dream hunt is probably going to be something like mountainous, like very physically demanding.
Speaker 1:So sheep hunt, so yeah, it would be something, it would be something like a sheep hunt, something where you're just it's glassing you know.
Speaker 2:You're basically out in the middle of nowhere.
Speaker 4:Yeah, if I pick bighorn, sheep hunt, I'd probably take a rifle, probably not going to do that one.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you're not going to bow hunt that one Whoever's bow hunting.
Speaker 1:those hats off to you.
Speaker 4:Yeah, if you've gone with a bow. Wow, that's impressive.
Speaker 3:With a rifle. Is that even a thing, though? Does anybody actually bow hunt you?
Speaker 2:No, they do, yes, they do People do it, but that is an awfully tough hunt.
Speaker 1:Yeah, oh yeah.
Speaker 2:It's tough enough for people to wait their whole life.
Speaker 3:Yeah, if you're going to go once, you're probably not going to.
Speaker 1:People wait their whole life to get a tag to go with a rifle and they don't even have a chance at seeing, like getting a shot off of one Dalton second one too.
Speaker 3:That's pretty cool. We had this conversation before what?
Speaker 2:caliber Dalton.
Speaker 3:What is the biggest possible caliber I can shoot? I don't care, it's a 425.
Speaker 1:No, no, they make bigger than that.
Speaker 3:I don't care if my collarbone is sticking out of my back 516, nitro no 520.
Speaker 1:They they make a 500-something nitro. Okay, One of those double barrel, I do believe Like blow my collarbone right through my back. Yeah, no, don't worry, it'll do it.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 4:I'm just going to that hunt. You have to be 250 pounds plus. I got to gain weight again. On that one there's a minimum of 250. Yeah, exactly, just to fire the rifle and much.
Speaker 1:You can use the gun for it.
Speaker 3:Yeah, when they say, how much gun do you want, I'm going to say all of it.
Speaker 1:Well, with an elephant it's like anything. I think its shot placement is one.
Speaker 4:That's why I need a big gun.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 4:I think caliber. Yeah, I don't think.
Speaker 1:Yeah, my 6.5 is not One of the biggest land mammals on the Earth. Yeah, 30- it's not yeah no, if the shot placement and caliber yeah, yeah, definitely some caliber with it that's a cool one yeah. I saw a deal on facebookcom. There seems to be a theme here with me, doesn't there?
Speaker 3:I'm really reckless in my dream house no, that's cool, you guys are like oh, I want to watch the sun come up on the the rocky mountains and I'm living today or tomorrow Nothing living I want everything dead.
Speaker 1:I'm not even wearing my seatbelt, and a helicopter hog hunt.
Speaker 2:Don's not strapped in at all. I'm shooting at the other helicopter.
Speaker 4:Recoils the only thing holding me in Don's like I need a gun option that has more bullets in and I can shoot faster.
Speaker 2:Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1:What do you have?
Speaker 4:This bolt action is too slow when I miss.
Speaker 3:Yeah, there's going to be some wild stuff. I get my way.
Speaker 1:Those are good, you know, and I like that. That's what dreams are made of and dreams are, you know, what makes life worth living. You just never know what is going to happen, what you could accomplish, and it's interesting. I always love to hear people's dream hunts. Like I said, it tells a bit about the person and I like it.
Speaker 2:And I like it, yeah it makes you look a little reckless, and I like it too, because people.
Speaker 1:They just kind of smile when I ask them sometimes and they're like some of them, they already have it in mind and they never thought of it. But it's cool to think of because you just never know what's possible.
Speaker 4:You said you're going to take all of us when you finally win a bingo at the Legion.
Speaker 1:Eh yeah, because I don't play bingo too much, a little bit, and I'll tell you Joyce on the cards there she's cheating. I know she is. No, I don't play bingo A little bit what Joyce isn't playing. But all right, boys, thanks for coming on.
Speaker 2:Great conversation, as you would say. I hope you guys listening have thought about you.
Speaker 1:Thought about you know what your dream hunt is and maybe this resonates with you a little bit and maybe you can achieve it. And you've got a great story and you'd like to talk to us and come on the podcast about it. We'd love to hear it. Until next time, see ya.