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Trivia Night Challenge 4 ! Ken And The Crews Wild Test Of Knowledge, Black Bear Addition.
Ready to test your black bear knowledge? This month's trivia episode pits Team Cubs against Team Boars as our panel of hunters tackles surprising facts about North America's most widespread predator.
Did you know the largest black bear ever recorded was killed in New Brunswick, Canada, weighing a staggering 902 pounds after being field dressed? Or that Alaska holds North America's highest black bear population at roughly 100,000 animals? These are just appetizers to the feast of knowledge served up as our contestants battle through questions about bear biology, hunting regulations, and field tactics.
The conversation reveals fascinating insights about these remarkable creatures. Black bears possess an extraordinary sense of smell that vastly outperforms their relatively poor eyesight, with some reports suggesting they can detect bait from up to ten miles away. Their seven-month pregnancy results in cubs born blind and weighing less than a pound. For hunters pursuing these animals, proper meat handling is essential – cooking to an internal temperature of 160°F eliminates the risk of trichinosis, resulting in what one guide describes as "the best meat I've ever had."
Perhaps most valuable is the spirited debate about baiting strategies, where team members argue the merits of limiting bait to create competition versus providing abundant food to minimize intrusion. This practical discussion, combined with historical context about indigenous hunting methods and medieval European trophies, creates a comprehensive picture of human-bear interactions across time and geography.
Whether you're an experienced bear hunter or simply curious about these magnificent animals, this episode delivers both entertainment and education. Subscribe now to catch future trivia challenges and hunting discussions!
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this is hunts on outfitting podcast. I'm your host and rookie guide, ken meyer. I love everything hunting the outdoors and all things associated with it, from stories-tos. You'll find it here. Welcome to the podcast. Hey, thanks for listening in. We have a very good episode for you. It's our monthly trivia.
Speaker 1:Now, the berry was a pun because most places in North America right now the spring black bear season is starting. How many places? Well, you will learn that and lots more with if you're looking at the podcast profile picture. Left to right is Dalton Patterson, jesse Els, myself, ken Maurer, lane Lewis and Ben Black. We are all relatively new and inexperienced compared to some more hardcore bear hunters, but take a shot at some questions about these black beasts. I think you'll like it and you might learn a thing or two. Also, if you want to get a hold of us, you can on Facebook Hunts on Outfitting and email huntsonoutfitting at gmailcom.
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Speaker 1:All right, boys, thanks real much for coming on the podcast. We've got another hot and steady and fast trivia one for you. Um, we're going to go around the room and talk to everybody, but before we do that I'm going to show you the team names. So we're going to have team Cubs versus team Boars, because this is a bear related trivia one. Now I'm trying to think who's Cubs here and who's Boars? Ben's the oldest person playing Dalton.
Speaker 3:I'm the heaviest.
Speaker 1:I know so Ben's old probably have to.
Speaker 4:Dalton, I'm the heaviest, I know so, but Ben's old, probably have to play rock paper scissors for it.
Speaker 1:Okay, I'm going to get. Lane's, really small Lane's really small on this team. You guys are the boars.
Speaker 3:So we'll do. Dalton and Jesse are the boars. We have gigantic heads.
Speaker 5:Yeah, so that's what you go for with bears, so they were the trophies.
Speaker 1:Yeah, jesse, yeah, and then Lane and Ben are the Cubs.
Speaker 1:Okay, so we got that squared up and sorted. Now, what are you guys playing for? Well, I don't know how many people are going to be on this one. So you guys are playing for a new, slightly used but not really few iron pit stains. But it's not that bad, you can wash it out. Hunts on Outfitting t-shirt. This shirt is in a large. We can also order another large, depending on what team wins and what size they feel they can fit into, or what people have been telling them. I'm like yeah, sure you can fit into that, but you know I figured that out, so we'll. I've been telling them like, yeah, you sure you can fit into that, but you know, figure that out, so go around the room. So this is a black bear based one Lane. You recently in New Brunswick here, took up working on the the big game club Yep here. So, and you got a bear in that. You got a big bear last year you talked about on the podcast. How big did the bear score?
Speaker 5:He was.
Speaker 1:The skull sizes is measured.
Speaker 5:He was net 19 and 11 sixteenths.
Speaker 1:All right Lane. So for the people there that aren't experts like yourself self-proclaimed expert yourself how do you measure what makes a black bear trophy If you want it, not just you know a trophy is, in the eyes of the beholder, like a legit trophy.
Speaker 5:How you go about scoring it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, how you score them.
Speaker 5:You go on the skull. You go from nose to the base of the neck. Yeah, and this is just a skull like, not when the bear's intact. So you go front to back and then you score side to side and then you add the total inches.
Speaker 1:Okay now what? Now? You know with deer when they're scoring them. There's things that can take away the points on the antlers. Yeah, is there anything that can take away the points?
Speaker 5:on there's no deductions. On a bear there's no deductions, just the 60-day drying period.
Speaker 1:Okay, that's interesting. All right, Next we've got Ben on your team. Ben Black's been on here before another trivia one. Ben, did you win that one? We sure did. You did you won that? So Ben?
Speaker 2:you're getting into. You're doing a little bear guiding this year. Yeah, I've got a couple people lined up to hunt a couple baits, so we'll see how that goes.
Speaker 1:Yeah, okay, but you've hunted bear before.
Speaker 2:Just a couple of times. I'm still kind of new at it so it's going to be a learning process, I'm sure.
Speaker 1:For you and the clients.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:That's good, but you got some. Your main thing is you're doing some fishing, yeah, guiding, you got some tomorrow.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, got quite a few of those lined up, so it's.
Speaker 1:What's the fish species? Straight bass, straight bass.
Speaker 2:Are they considered invasive? No, I thought.
Speaker 1:They're not. No, they're native them. Sometimes, they eat them. They're a little aggressive, okay. Up next on the other team we've got Dalton Patterson former host, former champion of this, former loser, also of this who looks like a bear himself but has not hunted them. Maybe that's why he doesn't go out in the season to hunt them. Dalton, how's it going?
Speaker 3:Good, I'm the dumbest person in this room, for sure that remains to be seen. Lane's feeling confident.
Speaker 1:Don't? You're going to learn a lot tonight.
Speaker 3:I'm here for moral support, maybe we'll learn something from you.
Speaker 1:Yes, and then coming up next, we've got Jesse. Jesse's been on here before. Jesse held a great Delta Waterfowl Supper dinner that we attended, you know, this past winter you have started a chapter here in New Brunswick and Jesse, not only that, but you guide Black Bear and you have been for I'm going on my second year right now your second year guiding, and how many hunters would you guide?
Speaker 4:a year roughly. I think we're getting about six to eight hunters this season. Two different crews come in.
Speaker 1:Because you work full time. You're a forester.
Speaker 4:Forest technician.
Speaker 1:And you've worked with Ben. Because Ben is a forest cutter, you make sure he doesn't cut too much.
Speaker 5:Just the right amount.
Speaker 3:Just what the formula calls for.
Speaker 1:That's right, and we didn't tell everyone. Stalton does the firefighting, and then Lane is uh a pothole watcher. No, he works for the city. Uh, same thing, right yeah uh. So we've got, we've got a smart, we've got a, we've got a smart crew here. I think you know yeah, a wide variety.
Speaker 3:I think diverse would be the best word, that's.
Speaker 1:I was trying to. Yeah, my vocabulary wasn't diverse, so that's why I said that. Alright, boys. So I'm going to ask a question. You guys are going to give me an answer, depending on what question. If you guys don't get it, I'll let the other team get it, and I want a little bit of discussion Back and forth. So these are all Black Bear related questions.
Speaker 5:Who goes first?
Speaker 1:So we're going to go with the Cubs, cubs Lane and Ben. This is going to be a long answer somewhat, but I'm looking for a short. The answer that I read out is going to be long, but I'm looking for a short answer from you guys. Question what US states and provinces in Canada allow spring bear hunting? This is for black bears and I want a number. Is it A 6, b 10, d 4, 5, 17, or C 19,? Because I did this backwards? So A 6, B 10, c 19, or D 17.
Speaker 2:I'm guessing 6, but I'm trying to think.
Speaker 1:Oh boy. I really don't know. So I mean so here in New Brunswick, I think I've always taken it for granted that we can hunt spring blackberry, because you, you think, can't everybody, but there's places that can't soar.
Speaker 2:Ontario started, didn't they? Yeah?
Speaker 1:They're doing a pilot project.
Speaker 5:I'm not sure about Quebec and I'm not sure about Manitoba, but Saskatchewan does for sure and Alberta does for sure.
Speaker 1:Okay, you got a few there. What about the States?
Speaker 5:Do we know what states?
Speaker 1:I'm pretty sure BC does too. Coastal spring bear and it's good, I mean black bear populations are considered very high and healthy across North America. So the spring bear season helps kind of keep those numbers in check.
Speaker 5:I know Maine has a spring bear, yeah.
Speaker 2:Or New Hampshire has a spring bear, yeah or New Hampshire 6, 10, 19, or 17 they get New Jersey, but I think the only fall bear hunt down there what about?
Speaker 5:I think, virginia.
Speaker 1:I don't know so are you guys thinking like a higher number or a lower number?
Speaker 5:well, it's definitely higher than 6 higher than six Higher than six.
Speaker 1:Okay, well, the people listening are probably getting bored.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I really don't know.
Speaker 1:You're going to go with 10?.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Okay, you went with the wrong one. Okay, boys, team Boris. Which is it? Six 10. It's not. What did you guys say 10? Yeah, six, 19,. It's not. What'd you guys say 10? Yeah, 6, 19, or 17, that provinces and states that allow spring bear hunting. Well, I don't think it's a 19.
Speaker 3:Talking to your mic there. I don't think it's 6.
Speaker 1:It's definitely not 6.
Speaker 4:Let's go with 17.
Speaker 1:17? Yeah, you guys were close but also wrong, so I'm going to read them out. So this is as of 2025. This was way more than I thought. As of 2025, spring black bear hunting is permitted in British Columbia, yukon, northwest Territories, alberta, saskatchewan, manitoba, ontario. As of now, with our pilot project, quebec, newfoundland, new Brunswick. In the States, we've got Idaho, montana, wyoming, oregon, washington, utah, arizona, alaska and Maine, but only on certain tribal lands, so they kind of don't really have one. So the correct answer is 19.
Speaker 5:It's a lot.
Speaker 1:That's a lot more than I thought. I didn't know that in Canada we had that many Because Nova Scotia can't. They almost did this year. But I think politics got in the way.
Speaker 5:I've never heard of anybody bear hunting in Newfoundland in the spring.
Speaker 1:No, I mean, do you hear of a lot of bear hunting in Newfoundland?
Speaker 2:Well, I do see them advertising that. You say that. So yeah, I wasn't even thinking about it.
Speaker 1:I was talking to a guy last week about bear hunting in Newfoundland. They've got a lot. Because you think Newfoundland, you think moose and all that, they've got a lot of bears. They've got a lot of bear yeah.
Speaker 4:I didn't even know they had bears there, like black bear.
Speaker 1:Guess I should have had that question on here. Big ones too, really big, yeah, and I guess the population's doing very well there, as it is everywhere. All right, so this question is going to Team Boars what state has the highest number of black bears? Is it A California, b Alaska, c Montana or D Maine? It's a tough one, I'll give you that.
Speaker 4:I was thinking Alaska or Maine.
Speaker 1:Jesse, you want to come a little closer? Yeah, sure.
Speaker 4:What are your thoughts?
Speaker 3:I agree with you, but I don't know which one's right.
Speaker 1:Now why are you guys thinking that Alaska or Maine it was a good? You know Maine's good a lot, alaska's good a lot.
Speaker 3:Montana would have a lot of bears too, though yeah, they sure do. But I don't know that they would have more than Alaska or Maine right.
Speaker 1:And I can't confirm. But you know how California is pretty weird and they've gotten rid of, like what they get rid of trapping, I think, and this and that I can't say for sure, but they had a high bear population well, no, not in California this is true.
Speaker 1:Because their cat population is out of control, they shut that down too they shut down trapping and they're having a lot of trouble with coyotes, bobcats, all these animals that should be trapped, but they haven't changed that that I know of right now. But yeah, which state has the highest number of black bears?
Speaker 4:what do you lean towards?
Speaker 3:oh, it's alaska or maine, I don't know. I'm gonna say you go ahead and pick, because I don't know alaska isn't alaska huge, though, okay, might.
Speaker 4:Maine's pretty small too.
Speaker 1:There's a lot of bear there.
Speaker 4:There's a lot of bear, because I know I'm just thinking about the population of Brunswick. It's pretty high. You go ahead and pick. We're going to go with Alaska.
Speaker 1:You are going with the right one, boys.
Speaker 2:Alaska, yep.
Speaker 1:It's the right one, boys. Alaska, yep. So who was saying, was it you, dalton? How big it is? Yeah, I mean, it's so big. So Alaska is home to the largest population of black bears in the United States, with an estimated population of about 100,000, found all over the state, from coastal rainforests to interior wilderness areas. You know what the neat thing about the interior wilderness areas is they're different from the exterior wilderness areas. You know what the neat thing about the interior wilderness areas is they're different from the exterior wilderness areas.
Speaker 1:The more you know.
Speaker 3:We'll take our point there, please.
Speaker 1:I was kind of surprised by that one sort of. I had some other states in mind, because everyone thinks New Jersey.
Speaker 2:New Jersey is a small state, though that would have been my guess.
Speaker 1:Kind of small, the Garden State yeah.
Speaker 3:See, I was expecting Wyoming to be on that list so I was like, oh, maybe if he says Wyoming then I'll just go with that. But everybody from the East Coast to New Brunswick is going to say Maine because that's what they know right there. There's a lot of bears there and then I think it's Alaska.
Speaker 1:You can legally shoot. I think it's three black bear a year, a season. Yeah, they got a lot. Well, they got the highest population, All right. So we are at Team Cubs looking to get you guys on the board. How long is a black bear pregnant? Is it A, six months, B, seven months, C, eight months? And yes, that's right, there's no.
Speaker 2:D Don't look at me it would be the D was used to make this question possible.
Speaker 5:Well, the rots in June. How far into hibernation do they actually?
Speaker 1:Oh nice, We've got some mathematicians over here.
Speaker 2:February, I think, don't they.
Speaker 1:The rots ruffling January.
Speaker 5:February so or are they fresh when they come out?
Speaker 2:I have no idea no, they'd be in the den for at least a month, I would think, before they actually come out. They come out pretty small so what are the answers?
Speaker 1:so 6 months, 7 months or 8 months or eight months they're close together, so this kept the question a little harder.
Speaker 2:Or 35 months, no, I'll just say seven, because it's in the middle, put you in February.
Speaker 1:I like your technique. That's what I did in school.
Speaker 5:Okay, I didn't study for this one.
Speaker 1:This teacher is not that original. Let's go with the middle one for multiple choice.
Speaker 5:Yeah, seven sounds right.
Speaker 1:Sounds right because Ben said it Sure Timeline.
Speaker 5:Okay.
Speaker 1:So, yep, you guys are right. So it is B around 220 days, so about seven months. The cubs are born blind, nearly hairless and weigh under a pound. So the first part of it they look like laying in the morning. Nice boys, nice, I'm happy you guys are on the board. You guys are on the board, all right. So this question here. Remember, before we started this, I told you guys there's going to be a question on here that you're like huh, that's surprising.
Speaker 4:Okay. Told you guys, there's going to be a question on here that you're like huh, that's surprising.
Speaker 1:Okay, that's good to know. Okay, Okay, so we are in team Boers. The question what province or state was the largest black bear killed? Was it A New Brunswick?
Speaker 4:B.
Speaker 1:Maine, c North Carolina or D the Yukon? What place had the largest black bear killed?
Speaker 5:Is this in the world?
Speaker 1:This is. I said province or state.
Speaker 5:Yes, but it's the biggest one shot in the world.
Speaker 1:It's the biggest one in the province or state in North America. Biggest one in North America.
Speaker 4:So Yukon makes sense to me, but it's supposed to be something that's going to shock us. I didn't say shock you.
Speaker 2:That's interesting. I already know the answer, me too.
Speaker 4:So I'm thinking it's going to be New Brunswick or Maine.
Speaker 1:Both very similar because they're next to each other.
Speaker 3:But not that similar at all. What's the other one, uconn?
Speaker 1:North Carolina.
Speaker 3:I feel like it's North Carolina.
Speaker 4:Honestly, you can choose for this one.
Speaker 3:Okay, north Carolina is our final answer.
Speaker 1:Final answer yeah, final wrong answer. Was it All right? Look at these two cocky boys over here.
Speaker 5:They actually knew what is it. It's New Brunswick it is.
Speaker 1:I'm not surprised I want to tell you though, dalton, don't feel dumb because North Carolina when I was reading before they actually are known for having pretty consistent large bear taking.
Speaker 5:Like North Carolina, is a state that you can get some big bears. It's Fredericton Junction way, really. In 1980-something, yeah, something like that. It was 900-something pounds.
Speaker 1:If we were at a party and that was you saying 1980-something, fredericton Junction, you'd look pretty smart. But old Ken here has got the exact answer. Ooh, so the biggest wild black bear ever recorded was a male from New Brunswick, canada, shot November 1972. That weighed 409 kg, so around 902 pounds. After it had been dressed it measured 7 foot 11 inches long, but the largest skull ever from a black bear that was found in Utah but no one killed it. But the largest skull ever from a black bear that was found in Utah.
Speaker 1:But no one killed it. But that's the largest skull found. Was in Utah.
Speaker 4:Did they have a score on that bear?
Speaker 1:They did, and I didn't write it down.
Speaker 4:Oh. So, We'll look that one up later.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that'd be interesting, yeah so the largest skull was found in Utah. So that was interesting, but yeah, the biggest one. So that's when I was like, huh, that's interesting. New Brunswick Yep In November 1972.
Speaker 2:But yes, North Carolina is known to have like really big swamp bears, Like consistent five 600 pound bears. I don't know if they're corn fed or what it is.
Speaker 1:Well, yeah, some of that Swamp, whatever they're getting in the swamps too. There's a lot of hound hunting there too. So I mean it's pretty wild looking at something that big. It's looking down at you if it trees, all right, good, interesting, right here that's a big black bear. Yeah, it's the biggest in the world, all right. So, team Cubs, you guys got that point. This is your time. So what temperature do most experts recommend to cook bear meat at to avoid trichinosis? And I don't have an A, b, c or D, because you guys are big boys. You guys are just going to give me a number. So this is. Some people have a lower number or a higher number. This is what most experts recommend and this is. You know, you're pretty safe, you are safe with this. You could have a lower number and say you're pretty safe, but this number here is safe If you say 170, you'd be probably safe.
Speaker 5:I was always told 165.
Speaker 2:Yeah somewhere in that area.
Speaker 5:That's the mark they try to hit internally.
Speaker 1:Right there I'd say so not all bears have it. So pigs and bears mainly have it. Not all have it, but they said to assume that all of them have it in the meat and it's you know it's worms, I think. Yeah, because of what they eat and stuff, they're the ultimate omnivores. Did you know that pigs and bears are actually considered in the same family omnivores? I think? Boars sows, yeah, cubs and piglets is different, but yeah, yeah. So what temperature do most experts recommend Go?
Speaker 2:with 165. Yeah, 165.
Speaker 1:You guys are very close, but you do not have it right, Boys. I'm going to give you a hint. It's around what they said.
Speaker 4:So that's a good start. The close kind of gave it away.
Speaker 3:Beef was 175.
Speaker 1:Oh, but you can eat beef raw 165.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I do, but pretty well.
Speaker 1:I feel like it'd be. They said 165.
Speaker 3:I don't know, I guessed wrong, so I'm going to let you guess. Jesse, give us your thought process A little bit over, a little bit under.
Speaker 1:Ooh, no pun intended. Eh yeah, we're going to cook this one medium, well or rare. I'm going to tell you this too it's an. Give me an increment of five Higher or lower. Is it 165?, is it?
Speaker 4:170? 170.
Speaker 1:You guys said 165.
Speaker 4:Yeah.
Speaker 1:You're going to go with 170?.
Speaker 4:Yeah, that's what we're going to go with, okay.
Speaker 1:Still went with the wrong one. So the standard recommendation to be on the very safe side is 160 degrees Fahrenheit.
Speaker 3:Confirm it with the thermometer and allow the meat to rest for three minutes before cutting.
Speaker 4:Next time I try to talk, just take the mic.
Speaker 3:I think it'd be even safer if you cook it to 170.
Speaker 1:We're very safety conscious over here it'd be super safe if you burnt it at 300, yeah if you cook it to flame at 300 for 5 minutes, yeah, you won't get anything in the meat. But yeah, so people listening that don't know this. Yeah, cook your damn bear meat if you're going to eat it, and bear meat's very good.
Speaker 4:It's the best meat I've ever had Very best.
Speaker 1:Nice, Jesse Nice. You don't get that a lot the best meat I've ever had.
Speaker 4:It's hard to convince people that. But Now spring bear I find fall All bear I've only had spring.
Speaker 5:Very greasy.
Speaker 1:It's good. A lot of people will compare it to beef, but most people don't eat it. So, Jess, are you saying that I like that.
Speaker 5:It is. It's really good. I fed it to people before and they said it was great and they didn't believe me. It was bear meat.
Speaker 4:It's like eating a roast beef.
Speaker 2:Yeah, there was a guy that I did a Euro for last bears or anything. Come in. He said just let me know I want the bear meat. Because he said it's very bad, he just loves it.
Speaker 4:Yeah, oh, yeah, yeah we have guys that, like some people that come over the hunt, don't want to keep their bear meat, and so we have other guys that want the meat, and they just take the meat after the hunt's done.
Speaker 1:Some people like well, you can only have it, it's only good if you do it in sausage or whatever. Like no, we've done it. Remember, lane, one time I shot a bear, took it to your parents' house when you guys were living there. We hung it up, skinned it and literally cut the meat after skinning it right from the bear onto the barbecue Delicious, we didn't marinate it.
Speaker 4:this that Backstraps right on the barbecue Right on.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it was really good.
Speaker 4:What we do every time we shoot a bear is take the heart out and eat it that night.
Speaker 1:I haven't eaten. Bear heart, amazing, that night I haven't eaten bear heart. Amazing.
Speaker 5:I've had deer heart. I've had deer heart. Yes, it was good.
Speaker 1:Deer heart was very good yeah, I've not had bear heart.
Speaker 4:You'll have to try it next time you shoot one.
Speaker 1:I will, I'll try it. Yeah, do you cut it up the same way as a deer heart? Yep, kind of yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah just cook it on the what you don't want to do is get your, um, your beef it's compared to beef. But you don't want to get that mixed up, uh, with your bear meat. Imagine like, hey guys, I got this nice steak, so we're going to have them rare tonight. Okay, get the flavor in there. You look back like, oh, I mixed up the packaging. Everyone's got trichinosis. Now that that's a gift that keeps on giving forever because you can't get rid of it. So good side discussion. But what? Whose question is it? Team Cubs? Okay, we are tied at 2-1, which isn't a tie. So the question which indigenous tool was historically used to hunt bears before firearms were introduced? Okay, was it A, the blowgun?
Speaker 1:B the sling. C oh boy, the atlatl. Or D, the bow and arrow. Do not ask for an explanation of the atlatl. I'm not sure what it is okay to be honest, but I was looking it up, that came up and I didn't get into the research of it. So what did the indigenous tools which is the name of Lane's rock band historically used to hunt bears before firearms were introduced, you? Can see the historical tools this Thursday night at the pub house. I couldn't imagine you used a blowgun for a bear no.
Speaker 5:It'd be nice if I knew what that whatever you call it was.
Speaker 1:I thought you did.
Speaker 5:No.
Speaker 1:Doesn't everybody?
Speaker 5:No.
Speaker 1:Okay, so it's not just me, it's gotta be a bow and arrow, I would guess. There's some pretty wicked slings out there, not that I'm telling you guys what to pick.
Speaker 5:I would guess bow and arrow, it's the only thing I can think. Alright, we'll go with bow and arrow.
Speaker 1:You guys are going with the right one, alright, the bow and arrow. The. We'll go with bow and arrow. You guys are going with the right one, all right, the bow and arrow. The indigenous use powerful bows with heavy arrows tipped with stone or bone to hunt bears. So good, but I don't know what that other thing is. But I know it's a real thing.
Speaker 4:I did not make that up.
Speaker 3:Yeah, find out what it is. Isn't it the Spell? That for me, isn't it the atlatl or?
Speaker 1:A-T-L-A-T-L Adel, adel All right.
Speaker 3:Pretty sure it's a, if I'm not mistaken. I don't know why I'm thinking of this, but I think it's a device that throws like a rock, isn't it? Okay, who's got their?
Speaker 1:Maybe that's it we're going to Google it after this. I'm going to look it up right now.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I think it's some kind of a.
Speaker 1:If Dalton's right with that, I'm definitely giving you guys a point. Oh, any guesses you watch it.
Speaker 3:It's a friggin' ceiling fan, right. It's like the furthest thing from what I said. Okay.
Speaker 1:An adol-adol, also known as a spear thrower or spear throwing lever, is a tool that uses leverage to throw darts or spears with greater velocity and distance. Do you?
Speaker 5:have a picture.
Speaker 1:It essentially acts as an extension of the arm, providing more force and range compared to a normal throw. Holy shit, how did you know that?
Speaker 3:I don't know how I knew that. I don't know where that came from.
Speaker 1:I have seen a picture of that.
Speaker 2:I think they hunt seals with them in Alaska.
Speaker 4:Yeah, I know, exactly what they're saying now that they say that oh yeah, that's where I've seen them used before.
Speaker 1:Oh, and now you know, ben, exactly Now that it's been said, and come up with Of course I didn't know the name, but I've seen those before, I can picture it. Yeah, we'll. Oh, a natal ladle, according to my calculations, is a spirit. It's like what the fuck? I couldn't even say it, right.
Speaker 5:All right, does that go back to us now?
Speaker 1:No.
Speaker 5:Oh.
Speaker 1:That was just a bonus thing that Dalton threw it. I can't not give a point to that. That was pretty smart.
Speaker 5:True.
Speaker 3:We're like however you say this, ataladi pronounced it wrong and there's some guy yelling at a speaker man, whatever you knew it, that fucking idiot.
Speaker 1:So all right, team Bores. Which sense is most developed in bears and is most crucial to consider when hunting them? Is it A their sight, b their smell or C their hearing?
Speaker 4:They have bad sight and they have pretty good smells.
Speaker 1:What about the?
Speaker 4:hearing. They hear pretty well as well.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I'm thinking the same way. I don't know what the right answer is, but my guess would have been smell. But I don't know.
Speaker 4:I'm going with the nose, for sure.
Speaker 1:Well, Jesse, you're going with the right one. Okay, Because a bear's sense of smell is incredible, many times greater than a bloodhound's. I can't say this for sure, but I think they have one of the best sniffers in all the animal world. I know it's better than a deer. A bear's nose is better than a deer.
Speaker 2:I heard on a podcast once I don't know which one it was that they claimed a bear could smell a bait from 10 miles away.
Speaker 1:Really, I think that would depend on a lot of stuff.
Speaker 2:It was actually like a radio-collared bear that went straight line to a bait or something. I don't know.
Speaker 4:Pretty crazy.
Speaker 2:It might have been like a Dan Inful thing.
Speaker 1:I think that would depend on a lot of the terrain, time of year, wind direction, all that. But I do know that they have a better nose than a deer. Oh yeah definitely it's pretty damn good. So, Jesse, you're saying their eyesight's bad.
Speaker 4:Yeah, they don't see very well.
Speaker 1:I've walked in on bears before and they look like they're staring at you, but they don't have a clue.
Speaker 4:You're there, no, really yeah, I know they had small eyes.
Speaker 1:Yeah, they definitely small eyes that's why they uh, they stand up, though to get a better look and all that. Yeah, I know some people think it's like an aggression thing. Do they ever stand up as an aggression thing with people, or no? They get well with aggression yeah, it's just to get a better view, or or smell or smell.
Speaker 4:Every time I've seen one up, they have their nose in the air trying to sniff out what's in front of them basically.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and it's amazing how quiet they are too. Very quiet, because I was told that bears think about every single step they take. You'd hear a deer coming into your stand long before you'd hear a bear. They just poof.
Speaker 4:Yeah, a bear can be like silent or they can make a ton of noise like yeah want to be quiet, they will be. Yeah, must be.
Speaker 1:You know the pads right the pad cell, but still, I've got some pretty padded boots and you hear me crunching through there like I'm walking on a bag of chips that's because you don't stop talking no, I'm crunching lane, I'm crunching okay.
Speaker 1:so we actually are tied up for real, this time at 3-3. So, Team Cubs. In medieval Europe, which part of the bear was often considered a trophy and a symbol of strength? Was it A the skull, B the paw, or C the hide, or D the claws? So in medieval Europe, which part of the bear was considered a trophy and a symbol of strength, what did those Europeans like?
Speaker 2:Probably the claws.
Speaker 5:Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 1:That seems obvious. Maybe it is. Is that what we're going with boys?
Speaker 2:What do you think?
Speaker 5:Paws was the first thing that came to mind, Because I don't remember where, but somewhere overseas paws are a delicacy to eat. That's the first thing that came to my mind.
Speaker 1:That's a good thought process. Is that what you're going with?
Speaker 5:No, I don't know.
Speaker 1:I like the thought process. Okay, that's good. You're kind of like you're sounding out the answer if you will Working it out, but if you had to pick one, because you do.
Speaker 5:Yeah, I don't know, but if you had to pick one, because you do.
Speaker 2:Why should it be obvious and meet a skull?
Speaker 1:Yeah, I don't know. Why does the skull seem obvious over the claws?
Speaker 2:I'm just thinking claws. Well, the prize here is a skull.
Speaker 1:Here. This is not medieval Europe, Keep in mind where this question is being asked from.
Speaker 2:I'm thinking claws it's being asked by me based in medieval Europe. We'll go with claws.
Speaker 1:You're going with claws, yep. Being asked from something in clause being asked by me, necklace based in medieval. Go with claws, yep. Go with wrong answer. Team bores, what are we? So? It's not the what'd you guys say? The clause? Yeah, oh, that was right, I'm just kidding, it's not. I was paying attention, is it the?
Speaker 4:skull, the paws or the hide? I'm almost thinking it's the hide.
Speaker 3:That was my guess too. If it's right, I have the hide. That was my guess too. If it's right, I have no idea, but that was my guess. I figured it was one of those last two, but they eliminated one for me. But you go ahead.
Speaker 4:So if we're both thinking hide, we're going to go with the hide.
Speaker 1:Well, you guys should both think with somebody else because you're wrong. Okay, lane, it's the pause. Why? I really couldn't get a super great answer on that, but it is the pause. Yeah, when you were saying that, I was like, okay, yeah, should go with that, should have. And then you guys started going off on some weird tangent or whatever in your heads and chose wrong. But yeah, it's the pause and it maybe has something to do with the delicacy thing or it's just the pause. You know their big manly bear paws.
Speaker 3:I'm not sure exactly, but but you'd think the claws would be more of a sign of strength than the paws, right? I think a bear paw is like a kid's snack, right?
Speaker 1:But all bears.
Speaker 3:You know like they're in my cupboard right now.
Speaker 1:You would, you big bear, but no, but the bear. I don't think they had the bear paws back then, like we do now they did, they just taste different.
Speaker 1:But the bear claws we think all bears have whatever claws, right, but only some bears have the big paws. Yeah, maybe Medieval Europeans. I've got to look more into that, but I know that's the answer. Yeah, okay, so we're at you guys, and this is the tiebreaker. Why did you guys have to tie up? Actually, because this is not a great question to break the tie. Why did you guys have to do that? Alright, team Boars Question. Is it best, when baiting bears, to limit bait to create competition or load up every time with the goods? Jesse, as a bear guide, I'm really counting on you to get this right.
Speaker 4:Well, I always like to limit my bait to make competition. So, when I show up and put the bait in, bears want to come right out. That's my thought process on that.
Speaker 1:I like that process.
Speaker 4:So that's what I have to go with, okay.
Speaker 1:I'm going to give you guys a little more to this question. This is what I wrote. I wrote just the question why? Because I'm going to decide who has the best answer. So this is a perfect tie-breaking answer, because I knew you guys would tie up, okay.
Speaker 5:Mm-hmm.
Speaker 1:So boys, cubs, Lane and Ben, what do you guys think? And I'm going to go with the best answer. So actually, this worked out perfect.
Speaker 5:Well, you can put an answer on both, on both.
Speaker 1:Okay, that was stupid Lane Because well bear baiting Well.
Speaker 5:I mean everyone's right.
Speaker 3:So you're saying we're right.
Speaker 5:No, but you also see, it's a double-edged sword.
Speaker 2:You just want to split the point no Split the t-shirts See in my mind it's like why wouldn't you just overload it with baits so that way they just keep coming back? And as long as you keep it full they're going to keep coming back, whereas Joe Blow down the road that baits once, maybe every 10 days. Bears will be there for a couple of days and they'll mosey.
Speaker 1:Well, that seems excessive. Let's not say 10 days. Let's say we're going to say, even if it was only four or five days, okay, four, we'll say four.
Speaker 2:Limiting bait they go in, whereas if your barrel has something in it every day until you go back and bait it to top it, off.
Speaker 1:But do you think, if you say you're going there every day, should you limit it, so that way the bear's got to come right in.
Speaker 5:We also don't need to go every day if you're filling the barrel.
Speaker 1:Right.
Speaker 5:It'd be more efficient to go every two or three days. That also cuts back on intrusion on them too.
Speaker 1:They're filling it every day, yeah it is more efficient to go every two or three, depending on what you do for work if you're a full-time guide during that part of the season.
Speaker 5:Because they say if a bear comes into a bait and it's gone they will move off to a different food source.
Speaker 4:Jesse, you guide any. When I hunt bear, I bait the same time every day day, so that way the bears are on the same pattern I am. They know I come in at five o'clock. They're going to be there at that time, so that's why I limit my bait.
Speaker 2:I could see that if it's an established bait, because I know people that will either bang a barrel or they'll hear their vehicle pull oh yeah, you're on the tailgate if they're trained to that, then of course, but not everyone can go to the same bait at 5 o'clock every day.
Speaker 1:Yes, that's very difficult to do. Kudos, Jesse.
Speaker 5:People have jobs and kids.
Speaker 1:No offense, Jesse. Unemployed kids? No, he works, he takes off their season and you're a stepdad, so I see both sides though? Okay, but like I said, is it better to put a bid in and create competition, or oh, we got the? Well, I'm kind of an expert, so yeah, because dalton's been going into your guys's bear bait yeah, that's what I do.
Speaker 3:Yeah, that's right. Lane, get those twizzlers my days off. That's what I do going to lane's bear bait um get snacks for work that week but wouldn't you want to create a little bit of competition, because aren't you trying to kill a bigger bear, not just any bear, I don't know. That's all I'm going to say. Thanks.
Speaker 1:Okay, nice, I like it. So what are we going with? I know what you guys are going with Lane and Ben. You guys can't go answer.
Speaker 5:I'm going to go fill it up, because that's what I do, you guys going in how often Roughly I run cell cameras. I wait until the bait's empty. Okay, it also helps with intrusion, so I don't have to go in there for four or five days. And gas isn't cheap Okay.
Speaker 2:Neither is time no.
Speaker 1:Alright, some philosophers over here. So for the tiebreaker, I'm going to go with no. Alright, some philosophers over here. So for the tiebreaker, I'm gonna go with drumroll. Please, drumroll, just kidding, you got it. No, that's pretty good, boys. Thanks, I'm gonna go with team Boars. I like the idea of creating that competition, because the bear will be able to smell, they know that the bait is there and they better get their asses in there if they want it, and I like both you guys' explanations to it. I see the other side too, and I don't know if there is a right or wrong answer to this. Somebody listening to this will say well, it's that one, it's definitely Team Cubs, or it's that one, it's definitely Team Boars. And somebody that knows just as much as that person saying that will probably say the opposite.
Speaker 3:We knew you'd make the right choice. I made a choice. We had faith.
Speaker 1:That was right. So, yeah, All right, don't go to reassure me of my decisions. No, boys, thanks for playing and I hope that you learned something. The New Brunswick, the biggest bear in the world, that was the one, like I said that really I was like, wow, that's neat. Yeah, but yeah, Pretty cool to know In Alaska. I did not know that Alaska, with all the grizzly bears and stuff that they have there as well, had the most black bear. That kind of surprised me.
Speaker 5:There are mostly brown bears in Alaska, by the way. There's what it's mostly brown bears.
Speaker 1:Yeah, well, other bears? Okay, how about that? I knew that they had more than one bear species there, so I didn't think that they had the most black bears. The questions weren't about brown bears or anything, no-transcript.