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Growing Success: Food Plot Secrets From Mike Lindahl

Kenneth Marr Season 2 Episode 80

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Mike Lindahl's journey to founding Domain Outdoors began at the intersection of two passions – competitive golf and a lifelong love of deer hunting. Raised in a family with a 55-year deer camp tradition, Mike started experimenting with food plots two decades ago, absorbing knowledge from experts and developing his own philosophy that would eventually reshape how many hunters approach habitat management.

What makes Domain Outdoors stand out isn't just their catchy product names like "Big Sexy" and "Hot Chick," but their refreshingly honest approach. As Mike explains, they often find themselves helping customers with information instead of selling products, especially when someone might be better off waiting or doing more preparation before planting. This family-owned business prioritizes customer success over profit margins, believing that when hunters succeed, everything else falls into place.

The conversation tackles several misconceptions about food plotting. First, that it requires expensive equipment – most of Domain's customers create successful plots with minimal tools, sometimes just a garden rake and determination. Second, that competing with surrounding agricultural fields is impossible – Mike reveals how strategic planting can fill nutritional gaps and attract deer even when surrounded by corn and beans. And perhaps most surprisingly, that all fertilizers work equally well – Domain's research found that 40-70% of traditional granular fertilizer is wasted, while their liquid alternatives are 6-7 times more effective.

For hunters looking to create their own "whitetail domain," Mike offers practical advice about starting small, choosing the right plants for specific situations, and focusing on sustainable food sources like their "Comeback Kid" clover blend. The real reward comes when customers harvest deer over plots they've created – something Mike describes as the best part of what they do, a celebration of the hard work and dedication that goes into food plot management.

Ready to transform your hunting property? Visit domainoutdoor.com or find their products at major retailers nationwide. Whether you're planting your first plot or improving established ones, their straightforward approach and innovative products can help create the hunting success you've been seeking.

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Speaker 1:

this is hunts, an outfitting podcast. I'm your host and rookie guide, ken mark. I love everything hunting the outdoors and all things associated with it, from stories to howos. You'll find it here. Welcome to the podcast. Hey, how's it going? We are very glad to have you listening to the podcast. Got another great one for you, as always.

Speaker 1:

So, liquid fertilizers what's the difference between them and pellet fertilizers? And what's better? Is clover underrated in food plots? And how do you attract deer to come and eat at your place with great egg land all around you? Well, these questions and more will be answered by Mike of Domain Outdoors.

Speaker 1:

Mike and the boys over at Domain Outdoors are the three H's humble, honest and helpful in wanting to give you the tools and products needed to create your own whitetail domain new, experienced or curious about food plots. This is a great episode to check out. I really enjoyed talking about this topic. I recently, uh, got into making food plots last year and was able to harvest my buck out of it. Out of it, uh it.

Speaker 1:

Honestly, though, working the land and establishing a great food plot, I like that more than I did hunting out of there. Honestly, though, working the land and establishing a great food plot. I like that more than I did hunting out of there. If you guys want to get a hold of us, reach out to myself in any way. You can email huntsonoutfitting at gmailcom or follow us on Facebook, hunts on Outfitting, or find me, ken Marr. All right, let's talk to Mike. Yeah, so, mike, I know you've done a lot of podcasts before and all that, but if you could just say who you are and where you're from, and then we'll jump right into it.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, thanks for having me on Ken Mike Lindahl here with Domain Outdoor. We are a family-owned grassroot food plot mineral fertilizer company based out of Wisconsin. Excited to be on the show and chat today perfect.

Speaker 1:

So, mike, uh, you have a background in golf, is that right?

Speaker 2:

yeah, yeah, yeah, I uh. I played competitive golf growing up and um as a younger adult and then realized I had a long ways to go and everybody else is way better than people think they are. And I still love it. I play golf weekly and it's a passion of mine and my wife's. But hunting is a passion too, and I was fortunate enough to kind of land on my feet in the hunting business about 13 years ago. Yeah.

Speaker 1:

So I mean, was that your? What was your first introduction? I guess to, uh, to food plots? I mean, was it just you're on these nice green golf turfs all the time and you're like you know. I uh this interests me, and then bring that your love of golf and hunting together, or since I could walk.

Speaker 2:

I grew up in a family where my dad really only hunted with a rifle. But I fell in love with deer camp at a very young age. My family's had a deer camp for 55 years. I just kind of fell in love with it and had success early on thanks to how I was raised and how my family kind of approached hunting and just kind of got the itch.

Speaker 2:

Then, I would say probably 20 years ago, started dabbling with some kind of DIY food plotting per se on our hunting ground and from there just kind of was a sponge and learned from everybody I could learn from and worked with some awesome people and collaborated and I still work with a lot of them today on the growing side and the agronomy side and, um, kind of you know my passion for deer hunting and for there's something about seeds and growing stuff that if you do it you understand it's just it has a whole different impact.

Speaker 2:

You know, when you put the work in, you plant the seed, the seed grows, the deer eats the plants. It's just a kind of a full circle part of hunting that really just stuck with me and it's something that I I love to do and I have an eye for and, like I said, I've got some incredible um partners that I work with, uh to ensure we've got the highest quality product available and where I was trying to push the envelope on new stuff. So it's been a wild ride and I continue to learn every day, which you often do when you're dealing with seeds and Mother Nature.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, yeah. Well, I'm curious though too. So you guys, you're a bit newer at the food plot thing and all that. You guys started the company. Was it four or five years ago?

Speaker 2:

now you're saying we started in 20. Uh, actually it started in 2018, but 2019 is when we kind of fully went. Um, people, people started to find out about us a little bit and, uh, we've kind of gradually grown every single year and, um, continue to grow and expand.

Speaker 2:

Uh, you know, all across the country, very much everything east of the rocky mountains i've've been in the food plot space for going on I want to say 12 years now and I've worked with some, like I said, some growers and agronomists and whatnot that I've, you know, really trusted over the years and work alongside and help kind of bring our vision to life. And yeah, well, we've kind of done things a little differently. You know, we don't take the expert path. We kind of more of a learn by doing, and, you know, listen to our customer and continue to try to create products that are easy to use and effective and help solve some of the challenges that we all face when we're planting this day and age, whether it's a lack of equipment or shade or poor weather or whatever it might be. We kind of try to be flexible and adapt and help every single consumer we can through the process.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, well, I mean, how important is it for people to know when building a food plot? Is that for guys to realize one size doesn't fit all? I mean, they'll read hunting magazines and watch something on like, oh, this is what I have to plant, this is how I do it. But I mean I'm sure you know where you guys sell to. It's such a vast variety of areas and climate and it's it's it. Yeah, just one size does not fit all.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I hope we've done a fairly decent job with that over the years, because we've sure tried to. I've never been, or we've never been, black and white when it comes to food plotting. I think that's a way to look at it. I've always kind of lived in the gray space of you know, there's no such thing as too small, there's no such thing as too big, there's no such thing as you have to do this or you can't do that. I think there's a lot of variables and what suits you might be different than what suits me, and that's okay. We'll approach it differently and we'll use different seeds and different ways to get there, but in the end we should both be successful, and I think that's why we've got 35 different products, and I mean there's so many different ways to be successful.

Speaker 2:

And it frustrates me when I look out into the space and see experts or whoever they are telling people that there's only one way to do it and this is how you do it, and if you don't do it that way, you're wrong. Um, I think that's a really bad way to approach anything. So, um, so yeah, I mean it's. I'd say some of the most um rewarding customers are the ones with the smallest equipment, the smallest food plot and the ones that you know have success. From what looks like nothing is pretty pretty fun to, and from our experience, most of us start with a garden rake and a couple hundred square feet food plot and eventually we've got tractors and acres of food plot. So the natural progression of food plotting is kind of how it works.

Speaker 1:

Well, yeah, exactly I like about you guys too, I've heard just watching your videos and listen to podcasts and stuff is the fact that you don't try. You're trying to sell your product. Obviously you have a business, but you're not trying to shove it down people's throats. And I know there's some other companies and stuff that have like certain feeds and all that like well, you got to feed this if you want to have big bucks and this is going to grow their rack right out and all that. I mean you guys are very upfront and honest and say you know, some of this stuff might not be for you, it might not work in your area. I mean, you're not trying to bullshit anybody.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I mean we, we, we try to take an honest, straightforward, helpful approach. I mean, there's plenty of customer service calls or emails we respond to, where, oftentimes, instead of selling them the product, we provide them the information to do it correctly. And that means that, um, maybe they missed their window, they need to do more prep, they need to do more before they, you know, buy the seed and, you know, fail. And where we, you know we, we help the customer instead of making the sale, and that's just kind of how we do things.

Speaker 2:

Um, the beauty of being family-owned is that you're, you're on board, you know, you're not as worried about, you know, um, gross margin percentages. You're more worried about customers being successful and having a positive experience. Food flooding's hard enough. So, um, our job is to, you know, help guide them and help educate them, and when things go right, everything else takes care of itself. But we've never been used car salesmen. We never will be. That's not our approach or how we do things. So, right, right, wrong or otherwise, we kind of do it our own way for sure.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, yeah, I like that a lot. And then you know I was looking at your website and it's really neat and handy your guys's uh selection chart and how how that works and just showing like for feed for food plots if it's an annual, it's perennial, like all that. Could you talk a little bit about that, like it's fun.

Speaker 2:

It's really handy tool it is a handy tool. Yeah, we're redneck so we couldn't quite, uh, create a website where you click on stuff and it brings you here and there and there. So we just created a simple chart you can take with you, and it tries to kind of troubleshoot Again different seeds do well in different types of environments, whether it's soil environments or sun or shade or parts of the country. And that chart is kind of a handy guide that you can print off and take right with you to the store, to the field or wherever you need it, to make sure you're selecting the right seed for the application.

Speaker 2:

Whether you're using heavy equipment or you're using a garden rake, whether it's semi-shaded or it's full sun, or whether you're planting in the spring or the fall, or it's wet or it's dry, it helps kind of troubleshoot and that's part of our job and part of what we love to do is help people, you know, avoid some of the pitfalls that we've fallen victim to in the past. We often make fun of ourselves, whether it's on our podcast or you know, when we're helping people, that we've we've made all the mistakes. You know. We've, we've done it and we continue. We'll continue to do it. It's just the nature of it that our goal is to help you avoid some of them, and that guide is a really slick way to help a customer select the right product for the application. There's still more that goes into it, obviously, with Mother Nature and all the things, but that's a really good start.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, yeah, like I said, it's really handy and neat. You know, here's a question because you guys are in Wisconsin, you're in America's dairy land. I'm in where I live here. It's agriculture land, everywhere A lot of big dairy farms, and you know they're growing these huge fields of corn and alfalfa and clover. How do you compete with that? Like what you know, would you suggest planting in an area of really great agriculture that's going to set you apart a bit and have the deer kind of choose you?

Speaker 2:

Yeah, a lot of our customers hunt eggs, whether it's land they own or land they lease, or land they rent or their friend's land or whatever it is. They hunt egg fields Around. Here it's typically corn and beans primarily. You get some alfalfa, but primarily corn and beans, and we use it to, you know, to a benefit, and we try to fill the other gaps. You know, as a white goat feed. There's certain percentages of their diet that require different needs. I mean, no matter how much food provided they're still going to eat. I think it's like 15 to 20% browse. Then they need, you know, 10 to 15 percent greens and they need their, their energy sources so that no matter what you provide them, they're still gonna make sure they're checking all their boxes from a nutritional standpoint.

Speaker 2:

And in a country we we try to play off of, you know what the customer is dealing with. So, for instance, on my lease this year, my farmer's got all beads. So what we've done is we've created a couple of little staging plots on the corners, probably a quarter acre or so, and we've planted those in varieties of clover and chicory and a little bit of oats in there. So the deer will feed or stage in those in the daylight as they move into the beans for the evening. And on the other side of the farm we've got a seven acre field that we just turned into food plots for the first time this year and our focus there was later in the year. Once the beans brown and get harvested there's really not much in that field for those deer to eat. So we focused on that entire seven acre field for November, december, january, february food. So more into your turnips, your rutabaga, your radishes, varieties of rye and winter wheat and kind of focused on late season.

Speaker 2:

So that's kind of how we stage or plan out a farm in egg country. We plan it based off whatever the farmer's planting in the gaps. If there's corn planted, we know early season is our opportunity on the food sources. So we'll plant something to attract deer earlier in the year Because once the corn is harvested then the deer are going to flock to that later in the year. Like I said, we try to fill the gap and we've had an incredible amount of success hunting an egg country around wisconsin. A lot of it is egg country. So I would say that food plots are as important an egg, if not more important, to actually, you know, have success um than in other parts of the country.

Speaker 1:

Okay, yeah, Thanks, that answers my question perfectly. So I got to ask too. A big, sexy, hot, chick sugar mama. You know it sounds like the local strip club lineup. How did you guys come up with the name? It sticks, you know, you remember it right.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I mean that was, was. That was kind of the idea. Um, we knew to in order to, you know, enter a category that had been around for a long time and be a new brand and get, get recognized. Um, we had to be different and we, we were different in every way we could be. Um, we're not. We didn't want to copy, we don't want to follow anybody else's path. We wanted to kind of have our own, and having some uniqueness and some some pizzazz, if you will, was one of our ways. It's generally kind of who we are too, I mean we, you know, that's kind of the way we do things Now, with that said, every product, whether while it has its own catchy funny name, also explains the product perfectly, which is the hardest part.

Speaker 2:

Developing products is easier than naming products, especially when you've got a track record like ours, where you've got 30 products with funny names that also kind of match the product. Like Big Sexy, it's going to be the biggest, sexiest leaves and food for you to ever see. No BS, there's no junk in it. It's a throw-and-grow that has no ryegrass. It's just all high-quality seeds that are easy to grow. Green Machine stays green, you know, long into the fall and winter Comeback, kid comes back every year. Hot Chick is, you know, one of our fastest ground mixers but also has chicory in it, so everything kind of has its you know wow factor to get your attention. And then once they grab the jug and see what's in it and see the quality of the product and plant it and see the success, then that was kind of the full circle with each product. But yeah, it becomes more and more challenging every year to name the next round.

Speaker 1:

I can tell you that yeah, Well, I really like too, how you guys. Each product has its own distinct logo as well.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, again, we feel like every product deserves its place, and for a customer, I mean, there's nothing worse than planting something and having success in the cash. I have no idea what I even planted. Life is busy, things are busy, um, you know, everything's so fast-paced now and um so if we, can you know? Leave a thought in their head whether it's a color pattern or a product name or whatever to draw back to what they're successful, then we've partially done our job, so try to make it easy and and on the packaging too.

Speaker 2:

I mean really there's so much education on there. We tell you how to plant it, where to plant it easy. And on the packaging too. I mean really there's so much education on there. We tell you how to plant it, where to plant it, why to plant it, what's in it. All the tools you need are right there on the package. So once you get past the funny names and all that, there's a lot of value on that packaging to kind of guide the customer to make sure that they select the right product and have success.

Speaker 1:

Oh, absolutely. It's very, you know, user-friendly. I mean speaking of food plots as well. Do you find that clover is often overlooked where it's not, as you know, extravagant as big turnips and such?

Speaker 2:

100%. Yeah, I would say, maybe not just overall, but definitely when you get into fall, people oftentimes look at clover as a you know, spring and summer perennial um provides a bunch of protein etc. But they overlook its ability to handle you know the environment. It can handle drought better than anything. It stays green into the fall and winter. I mean up here, come back, kid, if you shovel the snow off the tree under the snow and those deer eat it year-round.

Speaker 2:

So, yes, we've tried hard to position it a little bit differently over the last few years, as more of a year-round food source but also a hunt plot, and try to get more and more of a person's overall plantable property into perennials. Having a sustainable food source is important. Perennials having a sustainable food source is important. So it's one of those things that we continue to try and educate and drive home the importance of and I think you know as we watch Comeback, kids continue to be a more and more popular product. For us. One of the best ways to plant it is in the fall here, mixing it in with our forage oats or mixing in with a one of our annual mixes, and work really, really good yeah, I mean it's great that it grows back.

Speaker 1:

And then, um, I try to like mine, I try to keep mode and, uh, you know, as long as we're not coming into a drought or something like that, I keep it mode and it grows back. Well, and it keeps that, that plant, in the really good vegetated state the, the deer seem to be. I mean, they're at it all the time.

Speaker 2:

A hundred percent and in those smaller plots, gosh. It can really really do a nice job in handling graze pressure and typically in small plots that's the biggest challenge. You know, handling grade and feeding the deer that you have in a small area. A forage crop like comeback hitter hot chicks can just keep coming back if you have to eat it, so it works really well.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, yeah, Do you recommend so say you're starting a new plot and you're worried about soil erosion or something? Do you guys ever recommend planting oats just to help with that, where they're so quick establishing, just kind of hold the soil structure together?

Speaker 2:

100%. Our forage oats for us have become a huge tool in planting, just in general. I mean, they are so fast growing that to your point, on a side hill or an area where you're worried about erosion or anything of that nature, it's a no-brainer. But also they're just a very friendly nurse crop or companion crop.

Speaker 2:

Whether you're planting clovers or brassicas or just about anything, they're a little bit more friendly than even your rye or your wheat, just because we use an oat as a fall food source, as a companion crop, and then, once it's a companion crop or a nurse crop, we want to use it in the first year and we want it to kind of go away in the second year once the culvert is established and it does a really nice job of that, whereas like a winter rye it can just keep coming back, coming back, coming back. It can be hard to eradicate it if you want to eradicate it. So, um, we, I've started to use, you know, oats in most of my plantings. Um, and I've said it many times on videos that it's my favorite way to establish come back in our long-term perennials is mixing with oats yeah, yeah, yeah, that's, you know, it's, it's seems to work great.

Speaker 1:

Also, a lot of guys who listen to this feel like I don't know about the food plot and all that, but because they probably think that they don't have big enough equipment. But I mean, I'm sure most of your customers probably just have some simple four-wheeler attachments than they do with 70, you know, 100 horsepower tractor and drills and all that.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, and I, I, I hope we've done a good job of showing people that it it can be done with, you know, little to no equipment, or you know four wheelers or really whatever you have at your disposal. We've sure tried hard to. I mean most of the plots we plant are done with small equipment. We've done hand hard to. I mean most of the plots we plant are done with small equipment. We've done hand tools. You know we've done virtually everything but a 70-horsepower tractor. We've had to rent a couple big rigs for some of the big projects we've done recently.

Speaker 2:

But I tell you what we've tried hard to, you know, make it as easy to enter as possible, whether it's you know no-till, just you know raking it up with a garden rake or using a walk-behind tiller or a four-wheeler or a ranger with a disc, small tractors, you name it. Most of the plots and most of the stuff that we plant and the customers that we work with are planting probably an acre or less. Small equipment is really all that's needed or required. We help walk people through and guide them through whatever they're dealing with on their property and what they're trying to accomplish to make sure that they're set up correctly from the start.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, absolutely. I love that you guys are saying turn your property into a domain, into a domain like you know. It's great and it's a lot easier to do than you think. Really, people, I think, have it in their head that it's such a much bigger deal. I mean, it's work, obviously, but it's doable for any property owner yeah, absolutely.

Speaker 2:

I mean I don't know if I would use the word easy it does. It does require a little bit of work, a little bit of sweat equity, yes, but it's 100 possible, yeah, without without any equipment really. I mean, you have a chainsaw and a weed weed trimmer and a rake, you know, and you can pretty much get something started. And like I said I, I would say it 99 of 100 times you know, when a customer, or even myself, gets that first little food plot started and you see it growing and all of a sudden you're seeing deer you've never seen before. Next thing, you know that thing that turns into a quarter acre and that turns into a half acre, and then you've got the bug and things escalate quickly from there in a good way.

Speaker 1:

Well, yeah, and then you guys also sell liquid fertilizer stuff. What's the big difference you find between liquid fertilizers and then the pellet fertilizers?

Speaker 2:

Yeah, for sure. We got into that two years ago. We've got a great partner who manufactures it for us. We work alongside to make sure we're getting what we're looking for. And the biggest thing, we're not trying to not to use granulars, we're just providing a more efficient resource, something that acts quicker and the plant can utilize more of it. And once we dug into it and started to do the research, it was actually quite frustrating. And once we dug into it and started to do the research, it was actually quite frustrating when we started to understand the fertilizers that we were using and how much of it was wasted, even in a perfect environment. Through the testing we did with our manufacturing partner, we found that, depending on the soil type, anywhere from 40 to 70% of the granular fertilizer was wasted. It dissipated in the soil. So we were spending a hard-earned money on something that the plants weren't even benefiting from. So we had to increase the rate so much because we knew that so much of it was going to get wasted.

Speaker 2:

Now, when you put the switch to liquid, we have a 3-18-18 and a 25-0-0. We want to have as few options as possible to still cover all of our bases, and the 3-18-18 is called cranked, great for clovers, great for soybeans, alfalfas, chicories. The freight train is our 25-0-0. It's a slow release so it lasts 300 days in your soil and feeds the plant over time. So the minimum minimal risk of burning and helps, helps that plant over time. And when you mix them together you get a 28 18 18. So with those two you can pretty much feed any plant you're going to grow and it's going to be six to seven times more effective than granular because the plant's going to be able to. Seven times more effective than granular because the plant's going to be able to absorb virtually all of it.

Speaker 2:

Um, it can be foliar fed through the leaves or it can be sprayed right on the soil. Like I said, it's got about a 300 day lifespan in the soil to slowly feed those plants over time as they need it. So for us it was two things a way more efficient, way less waste and way easier to apply. Instead of lugging around, you know, hundreds and hundreds of pounds of fertilizer, we're spraying it on Very simple, much quicker release. It doesn't take a long time to break down and, you know, feed the plant, it's immediate.

Speaker 2:

And then on the liquid calcium side, we've got a product called Elbow Grease that's designed to help improve your soil environment, including pH and things of that nature. We've got a calculator on our website, too that helps you understand how much to apply to improve your soil and we're seeing results in months instead of years, and it lasts for two to three years in your soil instead of lime. That, while very effective and we highly recommend it it takes years to break down and fully improve the soil. So just trying to find ways to create a better growing environment better soil equals better plants and help the customer do it in a more efficient manner and an easier to apply manner.

Speaker 1:

All right, yeah, that's awesome. Okay, that answers my question completely. You're doing a good job answering my questions. It's great.

Speaker 2:

We sure try, we sure try. I would say, if I don't know the answer, I'll just make it up.

Speaker 1:

Yeah well, you know, and then I'll accept that as well, probably if it sounds legit. But no, that's great. I've always wondered that you know the difference between the two and why, so yeah.

Speaker 2:

I didn't even know until we started to dig into it about three and a half years ago and it was, like I said, fascinating and frustrating all at the same time once we started to get a better understanding of fertilizers. So the liquids definitely provide some major efficiencies.

Speaker 1:

Oh yeah, but much more. Yeah, I didn't realize there was that much waste with the granular.

Speaker 2:

That was the frustrating part. I didn't realize there's that much waste with the granular. That was the frustrating part. I didn't either.

Speaker 1:

Right, you know, when people harvest deer over their food plots that you know from the seeds that they got from you guys got the information and everything, and they send in their pictures and videos. I mean, does it make you feel like you know you were there and part of it each and every time? I'm sure it's great.

Speaker 2:

I know you were there and part of it each and every time. I'm sure it's great. I would say it's the best part of what we do. Yeah, um, I mean when people think of you as, oh, he owns a food plot company or whatever. I think people think that we just hunt all the time, which I probably hunt less than anybody listening to this, just because you know I I'm just so passionate about work and what I do that I end up working a lot, which is totally fine, but for me, like that's the most rewarding part when you've taken a customer from, um, you know from start to finish, if you will, and you you've helped create this lasting memory that they'll have forever.

Speaker 2:

Um, that for us and our team, like that that's the icing on the cake. You know, once we hit hunting season, it's many per day of notes and emails and calls and texts of you know success, and it's really fun to be a small part of that and we try to share as many of those success stories as we can, you know, through our social media outlets and YouTubes and all the things just to help celebrate that. Because, like I said earlier, it's not always easy. Planting food plots takes work, it takes time, it takes energy, it takes effort. You're going to fail, you're going to succeed. So we kind of feel like we all win together when somebody has success at the end of the day and harvest a deer and a food plot that they put their time and money and effort into. So it's a big celebration around here when it happens.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, like I said, it must be a great feeling each and every time somebody sends you in. Oh thanks. You know from having your seeds in the ground and your advice and what you guys offer on the website and you know when people are calling and texting you and, yeah, it'd be great.

Speaker 2:

It's the best what you guys offer on the website and you know when people are calling and texting you and yeah, be great.

Speaker 1:

Um, then I want to talk about yeah, yeah, I want to talk a minute too about uh, you guys beers and bucks podcast. I like listening to that. It's interesting. How did that come about?

Speaker 2:

just to help uh explain a bit more on your domain products, or yeah, so my brother-in-law and I started domain and during covid you know, when we were all kind of everyone was at their own house we started using Facebook live on our cell phone, um, so it wasn't even a podcast, just kind of a Facebook live happy hour and we used as a way to connect with each other and with friends and, um, anybody.

Speaker 2:

So that was I've been five years ago or longer. Um, so that's kind of how it started and just a way to connect and socialize and we talked about hunting, but we talked about just about everything else too, and over the years it's kind of morphed into a monthly podcast, slash live, where you know we just get together and talk about whatever's you know current, like we actually have it tonight at 7 pm central and it'll be kind of all about fall planting. We're right in the thick of it. So, um, it'll be an hour-long conversation about fall planting and do's and don'ts and any other rabbit hole we get down, which is those are. Those are frequent. Um, we just have a have a good time with it. I have a lot of regulars that visit the show and razz us. That's typical, a lot of razzing going on but we have a really really good time with it and hopefully provide some information and education along the way.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I find it provides some great insights on getting the food plots in the ground and maintaining them and looking after them. I know you guys are really busy and I don't want to take up too much more of your time, so where's the best place to uh to find you guys?

Speaker 2:

Yeah, so, um, first of all, I appreciate having us on Um. I always enjoy these conversations and um networking, connecting with like-minded people. But you can find us just about anywhere you look if we're doing our job right. But we've got a website, wwwdomainoutdoorcom, which is a great place to start. You can learn about us there and we can help you kind of get on your path to food plotting. And then we're in. You know a lot of retail locations across the country, depending on you know where you live, whether it's Tractor Supply or Bass or Cabela's or Fleet Farm or Family Farm and Home or Runnings or L&M or all across the country, atwoods, if you're at West, and those are some of our great partners, plus probably 1,000 mom-and-pop retail locations throughout the country. And we've got a dealer locator on our website. You can type in your zip code and it'll tell you what your closest retailer is. So we hope you shop local and use us as a resource and a guide and education to pick out the right food plot.

Speaker 1:

Awesome. Yeah, Mike, thanks again for taking the time out. I know this is kind of your guys' haymaking season sort of thing, where it is that fall and everyone's getting those food plots trying to get them in and get them going.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, it's our favorite time of year. We call it busy season. We laugh. Busy season is about eight months of the year now, which we're more than okay with, and this one in our part of the country has been plentiful with rain, so we've been blessed with rain. It's been a