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Trivia Night Challenge 6 ! White-tailed Deer Trivia Edition, Test Your Skills!

Kenneth Marr Season 2 Episode 86

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A duck-hunt detour, a robe joke, and then straight into one of our tightest whitetail trivia battles yet. We split into Team Grunts and Team Snorts, put a handcrafted River’s Edge Game Calls buck grunt on the table, and test everything we think we know about deer—where they live, how big they grow, and what really makes them move in daylight.

We start with a world tour of whitetails introduced outside North America and why some landscapes welcome them while others don’t. From there, we dig into U.S. deer density myths—why Texas’ five-million-strong herd doesn’t tell the whole story—and a data-driven look at Boone and Crockett entries that puts Wisconsin and Illinois in the spotlight. Along the way, we hit the Latin name, the oldest recorded wild whitetail, and the heaviest field-dressed buck ever weighed. Every fact becomes a tactic: habitat over hype, pressure over rumor, and smart time-on-stand over guesswork.

The tiebreaker flips a common assumption: a Penn State study shows blank  increases daylight movement—especially in the 16–27 mph range. We unpack how to use gusty days to your advantage, from picking leeward terrain and edge cover to letting the wind hide your approach and noise. It’s a friendly, high-energy contest loaded with practical takeaways for anyone planning a rut vacation, a late-season push, or a first out-of-state tag.

If you learned something, tap follow, share this episode with your hunting crew, and drop a review with your highest-scoring question—what stumped you, and what are you testing on your next sit?

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SPEAKER_00:

This is Huntsun Outfitting Podcast. I'm your host and rookie guide, Ken Meyer. I love everything hunting, the outdoors, and all things associated with it. From stores to how-tos, you'll find it here. Welcome to the podcast. Hey, yes, thanks for lending me your ears and valuable time to listen to this podcast. If you're new, welcome. If not, then welcome back. This week we got a really fun one for you. It's Whitetailed Deer Trivia. Think you can answer quicker and better than the podcast panel on this multiple choice head-to-head trivia action. Keep score, maybe for fun and see how you do, or just relax and be entertained by the crew. Either way, I guarantee you will definitely learn something. This one may start off slow but picks up very quickly, having an intense and maybe surprise ending. Now, when I listen to podcasts, I like to put a face to the voice that I'm listening to. So on the podcast profile picture, from left to right is Scott McKillop, Jacob Armstrong, your humble host in the middle, me, Ken Mayer. Next to me is Lane Lewis, and the happy looking guy on the far right, Ryan Wesalius. Above, Ryan said, you will see the prize that the boys are playing for. A custom buck grunt uh that I'm gonna talk more about in a minute. Also, suggestions, comments, want to be on the podcast, anything, you can email me, huntsonoutfitting at gmail.com, or find us on Facebook, Hunts on Outfitting, or find me on Facebook, Ken Maher. Uh, I've been having more people reach out to me, and I've really enjoyed talking with you guys. So, any of you want to reach out, have a chat, talk hunting, say what I did right on the podcast, say what I did wrong, anything, reach out. It's great talking with you guys. Alright, boys, we're fired up because we have the deer trivia that we're really excited to do, okay? Um, we're gonna go around the room because I know people have listened to this podcast before. Sometimes we'll have new people on. So uh we're gonna introduce ourselves. But before we do that, uh sitting across me in uh the first ever, second ever, third ever, no, the first ever person doing the podcast in a in a robe and and nothing else. Jacob Um Jacob and I were late.

SPEAKER_06:

Listen, when you're a big boy like me, you sweat. My outfit is in the uh dryer.

SPEAKER_00:

Jacob's fashionable, I'm late. Um because uh so we were duck hunting with uh a dear friend of ours who's been on the podcast many times. I'm not gonna name his name. He's even hosted it, so I'm gonna leave Dalton out of this because so we were going duck hunting, and he's like, Yeah, I know the spot, we're gonna go duck hunting. And uh I he said where? And I'm like, Oh, I know where that spot is. He's like, All right, so we have to go through the woods, and then uh and you go through the woods a little bit, then you're gonna come up to this nice beautiful pond. And uh he was going the wrong way. And I was like, I if you're going to the one I'm thinking of, you're going the wrong way. He's like, No, no, this is the right way, this is the lower one. I'm like, okay.

SPEAKER_02:

Is it the one that I showed him?

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah. So we were going the complete opposite way. And um, anyways, we were going along, and uh then he's like, Alright, the ducks are just over this bank. Everyone put your gear down here, load up, we'll get over, we'll shoot them, then we'll come back and uh get the gear and all that set up. Like, all right. So we all put our gear down there, and it's camoed by the way, and there's leaves falling everywhere, so you can't see it that well. And we get up over this bank and we look down, and there's a puddle about the size of a freaking table.

SPEAKER_06:

There's a pie plate's worth of water when you cross the bank.

SPEAKER_00:

He's like, Oh, oh, no, we're too far down. We'll just go up this way a little more. So then we start trekking up there, and I was like, I don't think this is it. I think it's back there. No, no, this is up here. Anyways, uh, after a while walk later, we ended up having to cross the railroad tracks. When on the other side of them, the train came. We had to wait for the train to go by. The train like came for a full ass. But then we're standing there.

SPEAKER_02:

And you're not walking in the direction, man. You can't even hear it. We're lucky he honked, because I'll be honest. Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00:

And so then we had to wait for the train to go by, and then we finally, I was like, I think where we need to go is up here. And he's like, Oh yeah, he agreed. I was right. So we went there, did shoot some ducks, and then we're like, all right, we'll go back and get our gear. Easier said than done. It's covered in leaves, it's in camel. We weren't sure where the hell we left it. So we were what, half an hour?

SPEAKER_06:

Oh, probably. Like a bunch of then once we found it, it was probably in the worst spot. Like it's in this little like trough almost with a bunch of brush all around it. It's like, boys.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06:

So, anyways, we uh yeah, looking for the green Coleman stove, the black gun gate, like all yeah.

SPEAKER_00:

I I hung my camo jacket on a tree for us to find, you know, all that everything really stuck out. So, um, anyways, uh yes, Jacob was sweating a lot and uh we were a little late, but we made it and we got a few ducks, so here we are.

SPEAKER_06:

What else did we what did we say we wanted to do today, Ken? What did you say you wanted to do?

SPEAKER_00:

Sweat, and boy did I achieve it.

SPEAKER_06:

Okay, other than that, what did we shoot a wood duck? And what did we do very first duck of the day? Nailed a wood duck. Drake Wood duck, yeah.

SPEAKER_00:

I was pretty happy about that. I did say that yesterday. Yeah. I was like, I want to shoot, I want to shoot a wood duck, got one, so it's real happy about it.

SPEAKER_06:

You were first Drake Wood Duck?

SPEAKER_00:

Oh, and Jacob. Yeah, Jacob, tell him your big news.

SPEAKER_06:

And then well, Dalton's dog's first water retrieve with him. Yep, and well, last bird of the day, I jump shot, go and pick it up, banded deal. Ten years this year, and this is my first ever banded bird.

SPEAKER_00:

No one else in this room's gotten one with nothing longer than 10 years. Really cool.

SPEAKER_04:

I've never shot a duck. I've shot a lot of ducks and a lot of geese, but never one with a band. It's pretty cool. Really cool.

SPEAKER_02:

Go down to Bucktoosh and then wait for the people to let them out. When you go down to Bucktoosh and wait for them to let them out right after they banned them, you could probably get a couple.

SPEAKER_00:

Uh people from Buctouche are listening. No one does that. Um, yeah, so that was good. Yeah, the band thing. That was really cool. Yeah, that was cool. Um, yeah.

SPEAKER_06:

And mixed bag. We had a mixed bag too. Yes. Wood ducks, blue wings. Uh what else we have down there today?

SPEAKER_00:

Green wing, tail blue wing.

SPEAKER_06:

Blue wing, anti-green wing, and wood ducks today. But I weed chocolate.

SPEAKER_00:

Black duck.

SPEAKER_06:

We got some mallards tonight, yeah.

SPEAKER_00:

Be some good eating. So, uh, in the spirit of fall coming up, in a lot of places in North America right now, deer season has either already started or is about to start. So, in the spirit of things, we are having Deer Trivia. Whitetail Deer Trivia. Now, the first few trivia questions, we're gonna take a little trip around the world. We're gonna be North America, South America, and nowhere's in between, just North America and South America. And then we're gonna get into some more questions. Think you guys gonna learn a lot. I think we're uh we're gonna have a good time. Now, what are you playing for? Okay, so Rivers Edge Game Calls. Kenneth McDonald, great guy, great name, even better name. Um, he has donated hand-made, hand-crafted with love, buck grunts made out of really great wood. Kenneth, uh, Rivers Edge Game Calls, he ships all over North America. He makes turkey calls, deer calls, crow calls, predator calls, and so much more. Uh Scott, you want to give that, you know, make sure it works? Do it right into the mic, Scott.

SPEAKER_06:

Blue in the right end.

SPEAKER_00:

Okay, so thanks, Scott. So these are these are the uh these are Kenneth's uh BBB uh G edition. These are butt blown. These are uh butt blown uh butt rent, Scott, he kind of jumped the gun on that. Sorry. If you guys can see the look on Scott's face right now.

SPEAKER_06:

Um it's days like today, me and her obes got that we need the camera.

SPEAKER_00:

We're having fun here. Scott's gonna have to get some mouthwash. But anyways, um no, you don't have to blow them like that. They're mouth blowing up.

SPEAKER_02:

I was like, I'm not sure if I want to put my lips on this.

SPEAKER_00:

Um but these are no, I didn't blow with my butt. No, this one I did. No. No, but these are beautiful butt grunts, and they they work great. And this is uh this is the prize you guys are gonna be going home with that was sponsored by River's Edge Game Calls. And like I said, look them up, and he ships all across North America, so highly recommend. Now, for the teams, we have Team Grunts versus Team Snorts. Okay? Because Bucks grunt and they also do snort weeds. So Scott, you and Ryan are Team Grunt, and Lane, you and Jacob are team snorts. What you guys snorting over there? Whatever you're blown to them, Scott. Um so, anyways, uh we're gonna go around the room. Jacob, did you so when we did the summer trivia, you had a summertime question for everybody. Jacob, do you have a uh fall question?

SPEAKER_06:

I do have a fall question, I guess, but uh favorite uh Starbucks coffee? What's your favorite spice? Um what when do deer rut in Florida? When does a deer rut start?

SPEAKER_00:

Starting with a trivia question from you. Okay.

SPEAKER_06:

You wanted me to ask the question, didn't you? When do they rut in Florida? When do deer in Florida rut?

SPEAKER_00:

I'm gonna guess earlier than here in in the colder part of North America. I'm gonna guess August.

SPEAKER_06:

Uh according to University of Florida, it's July. Really? Yeah. Okay. In southern parts of Florida, they say the rut can start in July, and northern parts they can start in February.

SPEAKER_00:

All right. Well, guess you won the uh custom buck grunts. Thanks for coming out, boys. Um, all right, good. So we're gonna go around the room again, say who you are and what you do for work. Ken Meyer, podcast and truck driving farmer. Scott.

SPEAKER_02:

Oh, Scott, poor concrete.

SPEAKER_04:

Scott McHale at Porn's Concrete. Ryan Wasalius, Dairy Farmer.

SPEAKER_06:

Uh Lane Lewis, I work for the city of Moncton. Jacob Armstrong, I'm uh welding inspector of quality control.

SPEAKER_00:

So you check if nuts and bolts are tight and all that.

SPEAKER_06:

Yeah, literally.

SPEAKER_00:

You want to like check Lane's head after the podcast?

SPEAKER_06:

It's a couple screws loose, yeah.

SPEAKER_00:

Um all right, so we're fired up, we're ready to go. And um, I mean, this is this is a really cool prize for everybody, okay? So let's get a little applause. Not that one. I've just found I've found out that I have this uh sandboard, so yes, okay. Let's do it. Um who wants the uh who wants the first question? Actually, I'll let you guys decide. First we gotta strap up.

SPEAKER_04:

We'll take the first one. We'll take the first one. All right, visitors, ready?

SPEAKER_06:

Three, two, one.

SPEAKER_00:

Alright. So for team grunts, okay? Question. This is true or false. True or false. White-tailed deer are the most hunted animal in North America. And I want you guys, so this is the thing too, with this trivia. I guess this is our seventh, I think, sixth or seventh, uh, how it's gonna go. Yeah, I'm gonna ask one team. If they don't answer it correctly, they don't lose a point. The other team can answer it after them, they can gain that point. Um, you have the amount of time that you have to answer the questions, I kind of make up in my head. And I want you guys to show your work out loud. So talk it out, you know. Uh all right, so true or false, white-tailed deer are the most hunted animal in North America. Now you think there's a lot of animals in North America.

SPEAKER_04:

Maybe there's the most amount of people hunt them, or they're the most harvested animal in North America?

SPEAKER_00:

The most amount of people hunt them. But I like that question. That was good, Ryan. You're showing your work out loud, you're asking questions. Scott, stalking to the mic. Do you know it? Uh Scott, work with your partner here.

SPEAKER_02:

I'm not really sure. What are you thinking? I'll tell you what I think, but you're answering. Scott, talking to the mic. I think it's true. You think it's true that I think it's true.

SPEAKER_04:

But I I agree. It's definitely the most hunted big game. I'm just trying to get it. Hands-on, I think. Yeah, I'm just trying to think if there's more of a small game animal that would be hunted more and wider spread. That's good. That's good.

SPEAKER_02:

The only thing I can really think of would be maybe duck. No. Or rough and grouse. Yeah, or grouse or rabbit or something like that. I think like a lot of different areas you get different kinds of rabbits in here, right? We can go true then. It's your choice.

SPEAKER_00:

Where's your head at, Scott, for this one?

SPEAKER_02:

I mean, where's my head at? It's like he said, is it just big game or is it all game? Like small game too.

SPEAKER_00:

The most hunted animal in North America. Animal. Big or small.

SPEAKER_02:

That makes it a lot more complicated. We'll go with we'll go with true.

SPEAKER_00:

You're gonna go with true? Yep. You guys are going for the right answer. Yep. Um, so I mean that I will admit though, I was I was thinking that, yeah, you know, uh, like said Scott, ducks are shot a lot and this and that. But um, it just it doesn't go by like Ryan asked the question of harvested animals. It's how many people are going out in the woods actually hunting them. Whether they're successful or not is relevant how many people are going out to get them. So, yeah, true, due to its abundance and widespread distribution and rewarding hunting experience, they attract millions of hunters. Uh bonus question I'll give you somebody a point for this. What's the second most hunted animal in North America? Not harvested.

SPEAKER_04:

Oh, oh, Jacob wants that.

SPEAKER_00:

You can steal it, you can steal it.

SPEAKER_06:

Uh my guess, if it wasn't deer, I was gonna say turkeys. But I wasn't sure. Like like because you count it's all the species, North America.

SPEAKER_00:

I'm giving you a point. Oh, it's turkey, yeah. So they are followed by the turkey. So yeah, that was good, Jacob. That was good. All right. I know I saw that.

SPEAKER_06:

Spring, fall season, it might give more people more opportunities. And it's just like there's so many different species, and they're so widespread.

SPEAKER_00:

Um, Maine does. I know that I know Ontario does. They have they have a fall season, okay. Yeah.

SPEAKER_06:

Um, I'm not sure many other places, but I not at me, but I believe you can shoot hen, uh it's either sex, bird, in the fall hunt. In Maine, it is for sure. I think in Ontario it is as well.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah. No, that was good. I know when I asked that, I saw you were like you were eager. Um, so team snorts, you guys, uh Lane and Jacob, you guys are already on the board. So I mean that's awesome. Lane, give your uh give your partner some props.

SPEAKER_02:

He's got Google open.

unknown:

No.

SPEAKER_00:

No. All right, so outside of North America, white-tailed deer have been introduced to which of the following? Is it A, Argentina, B, Finland, C, New Zealand, or D, all of the above. Outside of North America, white-tailed deer have been introduced to which of the following? Talk it through, think it through. See these ones are, you know, a little harder.

SPEAKER_06:

Can we have the options again? Sure.

SPEAKER_00:

A, Argentina, Argentina, B, Finland, Finland, C, New Zealand, or D, all of the above.

SPEAKER_06:

I'm gonna go into a limb here and say New Zealand for sure has them. I just know they're like the mecca of naturalized or imported game species.

SPEAKER_00:

Did you know there's no predators in New Zealand?

SPEAKER_06:

No predators.

SPEAKER_00:

And there's no snakes as well.

SPEAKER_06:

No snakes, yeah. Then you got Australia like a stone throw away and they got everything under the sun that wants to kill you. Yeah. And eat you and just kill you for no reason.

SPEAKER_00:

Right. Lane, you've been quiet over there. Go ahead, talk into the mic. Give us uh what's on your mind. How I'm gonna pay my bills next month. Out with the trivia, Lane, please. I mean, what are you thinking? I know we don't know much about these areas. Some of these questions have to be harder because you guys are competing for elite buck runs.

SPEAKER_06:

So I don't know. Argent the other two is Argentina and Finland?

SPEAKER_00:

Yes. Or all of the above. You guys are gonna be running out of time.

SPEAKER_06:

Because they're all countries that can for sure, I think, support white-tailed deer.

SPEAKER_00:

Are they? Yeah.

SPEAKER_06:

They have I I think they all have like talk through Lane, help them out. I don't know. D is calling my name here, Lane, but of course it is. We're gonna go with D. Give us Delta.

SPEAKER_00:

You're going with D? Yeah. Son of a bitch. You were going with the wrong answer. You dumb. No, no, that's true. You're right. It is D. So just to see the crush on Jacob's face, I felt badass. Um, so uh second most popular animal in Finland. Okay. Found only in the southern part of New Zealand, and they were brought there by the Europeans for just for hunting, right? And in Argentina, they call them tropical whitetails. But they are white-tailed deer. They do look a little different. If you look at, well, I mean, if you look at a white-tailed deer from Texas and you look at a white-tailed deer from, you know, Manitoba, Canada, they're gonna look super different. Both white-tailed deer, right?

SPEAKER_06:

You see like a lot of those Missouri bucks and now it's like Midwest. It seems they have those really long snouts of whatever uh But you said in Finland the white-tailed deer was the second most popular?

SPEAKER_00:

It's the second most popular animal in Finland, and they've been introduced there, so it's pretty neat.

SPEAKER_06:

Behind what's the number one reindeer?

SPEAKER_00:

I didn't get that. I'm I'm guessing. I guess we're a reindeer if I had to. Yes, the white-tailed deer. Um yeah, I thought that was uh that was kind of neat. Yeah. Alright, good job, boys. We're going to team grunts, okay? So we're still doing some countries right now. Which of these countries has not introduced white-tailed deer? Is it A, Australia, B, Czech Republic, C, Russia, or D, all of the above?

SPEAKER_04:

They've not introduced it.

SPEAKER_00:

They have not introduced white-tailed deer. Scott, what are you thinking? Talk with your partner, talk it up, feel it up.

SPEAKER_02:

You said Australia, we say?

SPEAKER_00:

Yes.

SPEAKER_02:

You have an aunt there? It kind of hits me. It's like Jacob said, there's just too much kill them.

SPEAKER_04:

I I kind of agree with you, because I mean Russia and Finland, they're they share, I believe they share border. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00:

Do they? That's good geography, right? I'm not sure. Uh Scott, you have a uh aunt in Australia? Yeah. You care to talk about that a bit? Does she teach you anything about white-tailed deer there or anything?

SPEAKER_02:

Uh Disney kangaroo. I do believe there's no white-tailed deer there. I I would agree with you on that one. We'll go with that.

SPEAKER_00:

You go with Australia? You guys could be going home with uh a new buck grunt because that is the right answer. It is Australia. Jake, you better not be on Google right now.

SPEAKER_06:

No, he's on Google Maps. But Ryan is correct. Finland does border Russia.

SPEAKER_00:

We're on Google. No, for that. He doesn't know the next question. All right, so Australia. So Australia, they do have other species of which have been introduced by Europeans. So they actually have, I can't remember, but they have more than one deer species there, but they have not had white-tailed deer introduced there. Mm-hmm. So, but yeah, they do have other ones. The other ones are, I can't remember the breeze, but they're smaller, they're small deer. Of deer they've introduced. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_06:

I know there's a bunch of like I know I think rabbits or hares wreak havoc in Australia.

SPEAKER_00:

So Australia, besides Florida, is like the poster child of like, don't let that go here, you know? So the rabbits, the cane toads, cane toads, yeah, dingoes.

SPEAKER_06:

They have that dingo fence that literally goes from the north to the south of the country.

SPEAKER_00:

Uh I can't think related or not, but I think it's like the emus or something.

SPEAKER_04:

There was one like that. I I I just checked it on my phone there too, because I was wondering when he asked the question. The Czech Republic no longer goes by the Czech Republic.

unknown:

Okay.

SPEAKER_04:

It just goes by Chechia. So I'm not getting it. From watching hockey, I was like, he must have made that one up because he wouldn't have looked that up to have that.

SPEAKER_05:

Oh shit, Ryan, that's definitely made up.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, Scott knew it all along. Scott, you watch hockey too, you didn't pick up on that. Um, all right, Ryan. Oh, that's uh okay, that's smart. I'll give it to you. Um, all right. So team team snorts. Team snorts, everything they can find. Alright. Question. Which South American So I know we're doing a lot of country stuff right now, but we're gonna get out of that shortly. People find it boring, but it's it's part of the question, some of it's interesting.

SPEAKER_06:

We're on our world tour right now, yeah.

SPEAKER_00:

We are which South American country has the largest uh introduced white tail population? Is it A Brazil, B, Argentina, C, Chile, and D, Peru. Which has the largest introduced white tail population? So they were not native there, they were completely introduced. And uh this country that it is, I looked and looked, and it just said that this uh uh uh definitely has the largest and it's very healthy, but I could not get the exact numbers in case someone's gonna ask that.

SPEAKER_06:

I don't think it's just spit. Well, I don't think it's Brazil. I think Brazil is too jungle, too jungly.

SPEAKER_00:

Well, actually, Brazil, Ryan, you're in the farming world, uh, is actually coming out as one of the largest beef producers in the world.

SPEAKER_06:

Yeah, I guess they're cutting all their jungle down all they're forced, yeah.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah. That's why your ozone layer's so bad. Or whatever. But uh no, they are they they're actually like really amping up their agriculture.

SPEAKER_06:

That's well, Jacqueline's beef jerky. If you read the package, it's beef as a product of Brazil. Really? Yep.

SPEAKER_00:

No, they they are taking over like big time.

SPEAKER_06:

So and so Brazil, don't you? Argentina, Chile, and Peru?

SPEAKER_00:

Peru.

SPEAKER_06:

Peru, okay.

SPEAKER_00:

Is it Chile or Chile?

SPEAKER_06:

I don't know.

SPEAKER_04:

Depends how cold it is.

SPEAKER_00:

Yes. Clever. Uh yeah. Peru, I think, is too much. Lane, help out your partner some. Come on.

SPEAKER_06:

I think I see it.

SPEAKER_00:

All right, Lane. Why why do you think in Argentina? Give me your give me your thinking. Come on. Let's uh put it out on paper. I don't know. Okay. Hey.

SPEAKER_06:

I think I think you're I think you might be right in saying that just because Chile and Peru seem too mountain, Brazil too jungly, and Argentina is like wide open spaces. Alright, let's go with that. We'll go Argentina.

SPEAKER_00:

Going with Argentina? Alright, you guys, has anyone got one wrong yet? I was gonna say Argentina as well. You guys have to get deer fanatic lane with me over here. That's why. Uh so Argentina, like I said, I could not get any exact numbers, but it's everything said that it's very healthy and it's quite large. So I mean, I find that really neat that they're completely introduced there and it's gone, it's gone well. And you don't hear it, it's like a state of crisis. Oh, and also another animal in Australia. We're talking about animals introduced there that's gone haywire. Goats, feral goats. I guess they're overrun. It's bad.

SPEAKER_06:

I think New Zealand too is full of goats, too. Goats, sheep.

SPEAKER_00:

Well, I think on meteor they raise a lot of sheep there purposely.

SPEAKER_06:

I think on meteor they shoot a feral sheep on one of their hunts over there. Oh, yeah. I think they shoot a feral sheep, yeah.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, well, I'd I'd do it, you know, bow hunt or something, right? All right, guys. This is like this is this is their neck and neck. This is I think this is trivia six for sure. I think possibly seven, and this is definitely the uh the closest. So like every question you guys are just hammering it. Normally, you know, there's been a lot of things.

SPEAKER_04:

They're probably winning off their uh bonus point.

SPEAKER_00:

Uh yeah, they are. It's the bonus point, but you guys had everyone had the opportunity to get that. But you guys could you guys take it home? It's the next question. So these next questions here, uh, you know, we're gonna get into North America stuff. Uh it's interesting. So team grunts. Which US state is home to the highest population of white-tailed deer? Is it A Iowa, B, Alabama, C, Texas, or D, Michigan? State with the highest population of white-tailed deer. I'm pretty sure it's Texas.

SPEAKER_02:

I was gonna say the same. I was gonna say the same.

SPEAKER_00:

And why why?

SPEAKER_04:

First, it's the biggest. You got the most room for 'em.

SPEAKER_00:

But they have a lot of other animals there too.

SPEAKER_04:

They do, but they are very populated with deer. Just tiny little bodied deer.

SPEAKER_00:

So that's that's your reasoning? Yeah. You look like you might have another reason.

SPEAKER_02:

No, it was just because it's the biggest state.

SPEAKER_00:

Well, it sense of your copying everything Ryan says.

SPEAKER_02:

Oh my god, yeah, I am. Uh you know, I lost the last one, Ryan. Let me answer all the questions too.

SPEAKER_00:

So Okay, yeah. Um, that's true, you did. You got a you got a I thought you got a sympathy t-shirt out of it, though.

SPEAKER_02:

I did just only because it didn't fit one of the winners.

SPEAKER_00:

The the winners were a bit heavier than the water.

SPEAKER_02:

But I got my hat from winning one. I don't remember who I won with, but that's right.

SPEAKER_00:

Caleb, I think, maybe.

SPEAKER_04:

What were the the what were the options? Again, it was Michigan, Idaho, Texas, and Missouri?

SPEAKER_00:

Iowa, Alabama, Texas, and Michigan. Okay. You can't just add stuff in there, uh. I'm just putting things uh still Texas. Yeah. Yeah. Texas? Yeah. Okay. So that's wrong because I know it's an obvious one. No, uh, that's right. So Texas, it is an obvious one, but I don't know. I thought you guys maybe be guessing on Iowa and uh in Michigan because they they do have very high deer populations as well.

SPEAKER_06:

Oh, I'll be honest, Michigan probably would have been my guess. I thought that might be a good thing. What was yours, Lane? You look pretty confident as soon as we asked the question. Yeah. I thought maybe it just I got thinking about all the other ex exotic species they try and manage in Texas and how many hogs they got there and hogs, axes, deer, and how many high fence ranches and stuff are in Texas, but Michigan like I think Michigan, I think their gun season is only seven days. Uh I can't confirm. I can't confirm it, but I think it's very short, and there's like look it up. Yeah, I'm um I'm the Joe Rogan Jamie.

SPEAKER_00:

So uh and he's playing. So yeah, so Texas with an estimated population of more than five million deer, that is more than three to four times than the next most populous state, which is all right, here's I'll give somebody a bonus hold on. Jacob, what are you looking at?

SPEAKER_06:

Michigan deer season.

SPEAKER_00:

Okay, that's right. All right, here's a bonus question. I'll give you guys another bonus question. Which state comes in behind Texas with the highest population? I'm not gonna give you guys the name of state.

SPEAKER_03:

Iowa.

SPEAKER_00:

Lane's going with Iowa?

unknown:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00:

Okay, I'll let you guys answer one. Illinois? You guys going with Illinois? Alright, that's it. No one gets the bonus question. Um I guess before Yeah, you can guess. Uh my guess is Missouri. Nope. So Iowa. I figured you're gonna choose that because everyone knows I was got a lot of No.

SPEAKER_02:

Um Rhode Island. He's just naming all the states he knows.

SPEAKER_00:

Alaska. Hawaii. So the next state, this one kind of surprised me. So like I said, so Texas is an estimated five million, over five million. The next state is Kansas? No, Alabama. Around 1.5 to 1.8 million. Oh, that makes sense because it's right next to it's a big state and it's right next to Texas. Is it right next to it? Yeah. It's next to uh Georgia too, isn't it? No. No, no. Where's geography guy? Jacob, where's uh Alabama? What states is it located near?

SPEAKER_04:

Is it located near Texas? It would be just east of Texas, I think.

SPEAKER_06:

Is it there? No, Missouri is between well, there's uh Louisiana and Missouri between Alabama and Texas. Oh, I didn't think it's right next to it. Yeah, Alabama borders Georgia and Florida.

SPEAKER_00:

Okay, I was right. Didn't I say Georgia?

SPEAKER_06:

And Michigan.gov says the regular firearm season is from November 15th to November 30th of 2025. It's 15 days. Two weeks. 15 days. They have a youth hunt from September 13th and 14th, early antlerless firearm, September 20th to 21st, independence hunt, October 16th to 19th, archery, October 1st to November 14th, and December 1st to January 1st. Extended archery through January 31st, 2026 for select counties, regular firearm, November 15th to 30th. Muzzle loading is I think December 5th to 14th. So they got it, they got a little bit of season. Late antlerless firearm is December 15th to January 1st, and then extended late antlerless firearm is January 2nd to 11th.

SPEAKER_00:

So they got they got lots of time to shoot deer.

SPEAKER_06:

A lot of time to shoot deer, but really a pretty short, well, half a long, half as long a gun season as we have.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, yeah, I suppose, yeah. We have a month. We have a whole yeah, whole month, yeah. Um anyone hunting in New Brunswick that was going longer than that for rifle, you're illegal. Unless you have a muzzle loader, that's as of two years ago, you get an extra week if you pay an extra ten dollars. Kind of sounds like a government grab. Um yeah, so Alabama. So that didn't make sense, Ryan, because it's not next to Texas. No, it's a ways away. Yes. Uh so that surprised me though, but Yeah, yeah. That's the next one.

SPEAKER_02:

I'm glad you guys didn't get another bonus one, right? Yeah, no one got it.

SPEAKER_00:

So but the Illinois and Iowa, uh, good guesses, yeah. Okay. Who am I on? Grunts? No. All right, snorts. Team snorts. Uh which which state has more boon and crockett deer than any other? And this one, I think this one's gonna be trickier. Is it A, Illinois, B, Ohio, C, Wisconsin, or D, Iowa? Which state has more boon and crockett deer than any other? And like Lane, I know this is turning because I know you hear the score, you like looking at Boon and Crockett hunts and this and that on YouTube. So I know all these states that I just named. A lot of them are probably they're close, wouldn't they be?

SPEAKER_03:

I think repeat the answer or the option. Repeat the answer.

SPEAKER_00:

Oh, okay, Lanceen if I'm paying attention. Uh A, Illinois. Illinois, both of them. B, Ohio, C, Wisconsin, or D, Iowa. Those are all big buck states. Yeah. But you watch all those hunting videos and stuff. Do any of them seem to come up a little more than often? Uncertain Boone and Crockett Whittails, but I know those are.

SPEAKER_06:

It's funny, because I was that's the first one that came to my mind was Wisconsin.

SPEAKER_00:

Okay, well, I talked talk recording.

SPEAKER_06:

Well, I'm just trying to think about Bass Pro Shops, all those Boon and Crockett bucks I got over the counter.

SPEAKER_00:

Oh, good thinking.

SPEAKER_06:

Where the state they come from is because I'm like, and I know there's a couple there from Saskatchewan. Yep.

SPEAKER_00:

One from Nova Scotia. Okay.

SPEAKER_06:

Is there? And I thought there was a couple from Wisconsin.

SPEAKER_00:

Okay, so Lane, you're thinking definitely not Wisconsin. Jacob, you're trying to think of past pro shots, and you're thinking maybe Wisconsin.

SPEAKER_06:

I mean, if it was after Wisconsin, I would say Iowa.

SPEAKER_00:

Like I said, Illinois, Ohio, Wisconsin, Iowa. These states are known for big bucks, but which one has more boon and crock deer than any other? White-tailed deer.

SPEAKER_06:

And maybe it's a mental block, but I just I try and think deer hunting in the state. Ohio doesn't come to mind right off the bat, off the bat.

SPEAKER_00:

Buckeye state?

SPEAKER_06:

But that's for no, but that's for the tree. That's a I know.

SPEAKER_00:

I know it's not named after the deer. I'm just saying what state it is. I knew that. You know what Wisconsin's saying is?

SPEAKER_06:

Come for the cheese, stay for the cheese.

SPEAKER_00:

Uh America's dairy land. Pretty close though.

SPEAKER_06:

Yeah. New Hampshire is still my favorite.

SPEAKER_00:

Live free or die.

SPEAKER_06:

Live free or die.

SPEAKER_00:

Maine's the uh pine tree state, I think. Or we're not going to keep this going. But anyways, um, we do know a bit about the states.

SPEAKER_06:

Come on, Lane. What do you think here? I don't know.

SPEAKER_00:

They're all big bucks states. Come on, Lane. Videos. What any videos come up more than others where they're shooting like, you know, big 200-inch whitetails or something? Here comes the comeback. It's tied up right now, so this question has a little bit of weight to it.

SPEAKER_04:

You need like the Jeopardy soundtrack.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04:

I don't know, Jacob. Yeah, tonight's daily double. Yeah, I mean, you gotta guess what's right.

SPEAKER_06:

If I'm gonna guess, I'm gonna guess. If Lane says not to go with Wisconsin, so I'm gonna go Iowa.

SPEAKER_00:

You're gonna go with Iowa?

SPEAKER_06:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00:

Alright, boys. You guys are not getting a mark on the board. It is not Iowa. So this is not bad.

SPEAKER_04:

We get we get a guess still.

SPEAKER_00:

You guys do. So I was like, not bad. Uh this is the first question that has been able to be stolen. This is pretty good. That's a chance. Yeah. So it's tied up 3-3. Grunts versus snorts. Boys.

SPEAKER_04:

I gotta say, I was gonna go with Iowa too. So like I thought.

SPEAKER_00:

No, that's a good guess. They've got big deer. Oh, like I said, all these states, known big bucks. Even Ohio, you guys weren't saying Ohio's got big ass bucks there. Everyone in Ohio listened to this. Like, don't say that. We don't want anyone here. No, we got small ones. Spot burners. Yeah.

unknown:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00:

Spike horns, sorry, boys. Illinois, Ohio, Wisconsin, or Iowa. More boon and crockett whitetails than any other.

SPEAKER_04:

So, yeah, we're now we're down between we can be Wisconsin, Illinois, or was it Idaho?

SPEAKER_00:

Ohio.

SPEAKER_04:

Ohio.

SPEAKER_00:

What is with you in Idaho to me?

SPEAKER_04:

I don't know. Um in Utah. I'm gonna go and say Illinois. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00:

Going with Illinois?

SPEAKER_04:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00:

Both of them?

SPEAKER_04:

Yep, both of them.

SPEAKER_00:

You guys, I can't do this. Let them go back because it's between two. It is not Illinois.

SPEAKER_02:

Sorry, we still get next question. What's the answer then? He's gonna say Wisconsin. Ohio.

SPEAKER_00:

It is Wisconsin.

SPEAKER_06:

Oh I I can almost picture two or three of those bucks over-the-counter Bassbro shops coming from Wisconsin.

SPEAKER_00:

No, I like that when you guys were when Lane's like Stephanie not Wisconsin and Jacob's like, it might be Wisconsin. I was like, ooh, who's gonna, you know, win this little debate between the teams? So Wisconsin with over 1,800 Boone and Crockett deer entries, followed by I'll give you guys a bonus, followed by who? You guys say one, you guys say one. I'll let you guys each pick one, a state. It could be one that's not even on this list. You guys can each say one, and then I'll tell you which state it's followed by it. And they're not too far behind. So Wisconsin, over 1,800 boon and crockett deer entries, followed by what state? And it might be on this list, it might not be. Pick a state. Lane saying, Illinois. You guys going with Illinois? We're gonna go with Illinois. Boys?

SPEAKER_04:

That was my guess from before. Bastards. Answer Stealers. Yeah. I guess my other one, my second one would have been, would be then Iowa.

SPEAKER_00:

So that'd be mine.

SPEAKER_04:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06:

Can I say one more?

SPEAKER_00:

No, pick one.

SPEAKER_06:

No, yeah, but Lane, he said, but if I had to guess, I would I was gonna go off the board and say Montana.

SPEAKER_00:

Oh. Okay. I like it. So what one are you guys going with?

SPEAKER_06:

Montana. We'll go with no, we'll go with Illinois. It's Lane's choice.

SPEAKER_03:

I was just thinking about the heyday, like Pike County. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00:

What Pike County?

SPEAKER_03:

Like that was in the heyday, that was like the Whitetail Mecca.

SPEAKER_00:

Pike County. Give us a little history, Lane. Yeah? Go on. Jacob, look it up. That's Pike County.

SPEAKER_03:

Don't look it up. I'm gonna give you the answer.

SPEAKER_00:

Oh, I'm gonna you already you guys already said.

SPEAKER_03:

Locked in already.

SPEAKER_00:

Okay, so you guys, you guys got that. So it is Illinois with over 1,300. So they're not too far behind. They're not too far behind. That was my guess from both. But you guys should have said it quicker. Yeah, we should have been quicker on that one.

SPEAKER_04:

Should have been quicker.

SPEAKER_06:

I look up uh Pike County, Illinois, and the first suggestion that comes up is deer hunting.

SPEAKER_04:

Oh yeah. Don't think we're winning this one, Scott. They're only ahead of two by one. But they are they got the question right now, don't they? Or we got the question. We do. Okay.

SPEAKER_02:

They just answered the bonus to the other.

SPEAKER_06:

If you deer, this one's tough. If you deer hunted and you were around in the 90s and early 2000s, Pike County, Illinois was the pinnacle for big deer. Oh you knew that lane, but you didn't know the right state for the he's so into whitetail, he just doesn't know Stacey only knows counties, your districts, your wildlife management zones.

SPEAKER_00:

Alright. Okay, uh we on grunts? Yeah. Okay. So Ryan has to put his phone away. Cheater. So what all right, this one, uh forgive my pronunciation. What is the Latin name for the white-tailed deer? Is it A? Odicono Booleus B Odi Coilius Virginianus or C Odialis Concer Vatius. It's only A, B, and C because these ones were tough.

SPEAKER_04:

I want to hear you say all three again, please.

SPEAKER_00:

Okay.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah, more or less because we just want to hear you blow it out of the water.

SPEAKER_00:

Do you guys actually want me to say?

SPEAKER_02:

Yes, I actually I want to hear it all again.

SPEAKER_00:

Odi Cono Boolealis, Booleous, Odi Coilius, Virginianus, Odialis, Conservatus. Uh two of these I made up.

SPEAKER_06:

It's like that African bush pig. Yeah. Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_02:

You want to know what sounds right to me?

SPEAKER_00:

But remember, I made two of these up. Yeah, I know.

SPEAKER_02:

And that's the one you butchered the worst, is why I think that.

SPEAKER_00:

The Latin name for the white people.

SPEAKER_02:

I mean, honestly, it's it's we're gonna have it's Borealis is the last of A, eh? Like when you're reading it.

SPEAKER_00:

Booley. Boolealis, yeah.

unknown:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04:

Honestly, we got a 33% chance of this because it's a random guess, and they're gonna have 3% chance.

SPEAKER_02:

We've gone over this.

SPEAKER_04:

No, I I I think Scott's right.

SPEAKER_00:

A?

SPEAKER_04:

Yeah, we'll go with Scott's answer. God damn it.

SPEAKER_00:

It is not A. How do you butcher his own words so bad? What?

SPEAKER_02:

I said, how'd you butcher your own words so bad?

SPEAKER_00:

Because we did that before in a trivia when I had hunting dogs, and you guys didn't believe I made up three out of the four. And uh, yeah, because I had to pronounce them all. Because remember, Dalton, he's like, oh, he pronounced this one real bad. He doesn't know it. That's the one. I'm like, ah, that's one of the ones made up. Um all right, guys. Latin name.

SPEAKER_06:

B. B. Bravo, Virginius.

SPEAKER_00:

Odacoius Virginianus. Yeah, that's how did you know that?

SPEAKER_06:

I've just the Virginia I've seen that some word before.

SPEAKER_00:

Not done Scott. Plain says too.

SPEAKER_06:

Next boys.

SPEAKER_00:

Oh no, I had to make it sound, Scott, that I didn't.

SPEAKER_02:

Or the lucky underwear underneath.

SPEAKER_00:

He's not wearing any.

SPEAKER_06:

Maybe they are. I got my banded bird with these on. I'm never washing them again. Never taking them off.

SPEAKER_02:

Even better.

SPEAKER_00:

Jacob's got a banded bird between his legs.

SPEAKER_02:

He took the band off. That's the only thing between his legs. You could say he had a banded bird.

SPEAKER_00:

Um, all right, kids listen to this, guys. Uh, okay. So, yeah, so it's Odaquilius, Virginia's. I've always remembered that just from seeing stuff reading about things about white-tailed deer and all that when I was younger and all that, so it just kind of stuck with me. Uh, it translates back to the Greek and Latin as roughly hollow-toothed deer of Virginia. Credit to Constantine S. Rafinisk. Uh I butcher his last name, tracing back to 1832, uh, also called Virginia Deer. What are you looking up, Jacob? A little more facts?

SPEAKER_06:

No, I'm just I think um Let me just I think I don't want to you should think it's trivia. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00:

Alright, we'll come back.

SPEAKER_06:

Uh okay, so in French, the translation is serf de virginie.

SPEAKER_00:

Serf de virgin?

SPEAKER_06:

Serf de virginie, like so it like virginie or whatever is is the French translation. So that's I think that's what I thought of. That's oh yeah. Yeah. So I knew the French word, I guess.

SPEAKER_00:

Yep. No, that's good good thinking. Wee! Alright, so uh Yeah. Are you ready? Yeah, waiting on you. So team snorts while Milo Hansen still holds the record for the largest typical white-tailed deer ever taken. What do you know, Lane?

SPEAKER_03:

Can I get a bonus point if I answer without the options?

SPEAKER_00:

No, they had no don't give them any more bonus points. Okay, nope, Lane, put the microphone near you. This question and no. Hold on, I'm gonna make a deal with you. You will get a bonus point if you can answer correctly before I ask the question. Okay. But if you don't answer the question, you will lose a point.

SPEAKER_06:

No, we don't want that deal. We don't want that deal.

SPEAKER_03:

Oh.

SPEAKER_00:

You don't want that deal, Lane?

unknown:

No.

SPEAKER_03:

Can you answer the ask the question?

SPEAKER_00:

Like how about I'll read the first part of it. Well, Milo Hansen still holds the record for the largest typical white-tailed deer ever taken, measuring in at 213 and 5.8 boon and crockett. What were you gonna say, Lane?

SPEAKER_04:

Wait, remember, you say I think Lane was gonna say the score of what the deer was. No, no.

SPEAKER_03:

I think I know what the question is, but I don't want to risk it.

SPEAKER_00:

If it is, we get the question right, though. If if you say it, I'll give you a point.

SPEAKER_02:

Nope. You get two points or you lose a point. How risky if you're I'll do that.

SPEAKER_00:

I'll I'll give you two points or you lose a point.

SPEAKER_03:

Nope, I'm not risking.

SPEAKER_00:

You're not gonna risk it? Two points?

SPEAKER_03:

If I know if it's a question, I think it is. I still know the answer, so.

SPEAKER_06:

Listen, my buck grunt call is broken right now. The two part, so I need this bad.

SPEAKER_00:

So this is this is this is the highest stakes we've ever had on this podcast for trivia. So like I said, you answer it, I'll give you a point. I think I know where the question is. You answer it correctly, I'll give you two. You answer, I knock it out. No, I know it, but I don't take away one.

SPEAKER_06:

No, I'm not doing it. No. Listen, when you like you don't when you're when in the football game, you don't arrow to Hail Mary, you just kneel it out.

SPEAKER_00:

No, just go. What about like just he goes? Okay. I'm taking it. There's a lot of other sayings about like just putting your all in. Okay. So the question, while Milo Hansen still holds the record for the largest typical white-tailed deer ever taken, measuring in at 213th and 58th boon and crockett taken from Saskatchewan in 1993. What province or state has the second record? Is it A, Alberta, B, Iowa, C, Manitoba, or D, Wisconsin?

SPEAKER_03:

Good thing we didn't risk it. That wasn't the question I thought he was asking.

SPEAKER_00:

You were gonna ask where was he where is it taken?

SPEAKER_03:

No, I thought you were gonna ask what's the who shot the controversial potential world record that hasn't been official.

SPEAKER_00:

No, because that was it the uh Rumpola buck, yeah. That's really controversial.

SPEAKER_03:

If it's if it's legit, it is the biggest.

SPEAKER_00:

What's the controversy? If it's high fenced?

SPEAKER_03:

No, he won't get it, he won't get it x-rayed.

SPEAKER_00:

Oh, because they think he put like putty in.

SPEAKER_03:

They think they he broke the skull cap because it's so wide. And he won't get it wide. He won't get it x-rayed, so then he had to sign a legal document saying that no, he will not refer to this as the Yeah, that's right, because I thought they somebody's talking about like almost like some paper mache shit kind of thing.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, at their own polar buck. That's right. I thought you were gonna say you thought I was gonna ask what uh province or state was Milo Hansen. I didn't know that was taken from the kind of thing.

SPEAKER_06:

This Milo Hansen is one of the bucks that hangs over the Bass Pro Shop's gun gowner. Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, yeah, it's an incredibly well-known buck.

SPEAKER_04:

Well, it's the most replicated buck.

SPEAKER_00:

It still earns him a lot of money, too, I guess, because people like rent it out for shows and everything. And that was shot in 1993. So what province or state has the second record? Alberta, Iowa, Manitoba, or Wisconsin. Those are all yeah. Talk it out with your partner. One was taken from Canada, that's the record. Was another one?

SPEAKER_06:

Parts of me thinks, yes. I'm just keep going back to that Bass Pro Shop's gun counter. I'm pretty sure that there was a Manitoba buck up there in the top.

SPEAKER_03:

Good thing that was a option?

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03:

Oh.

SPEAKER_00:

Lane, you gotta pay attention. Manitoba is an option because it's Alberta, Iowa, Manitoba, or Wisconsin.

SPEAKER_06:

I personally think it's Manitoba. But again, I'm more a spoon and crock pot over boon and crocket.

SPEAKER_00:

I'm more of a Mrs. Crockett.

SPEAKER_04:

I mean, Lane is the Boon and Crockett guy here. Yeah, Lane. He's the official scorer.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah. Not for Boon and Crockett. Not for Boon and Crockett. He's a scorer. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02:

Not yet, but he's not.

SPEAKER_00:

He will be. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02:

Working his way up in the world.

SPEAKER_00:

Alright, boys, I'm gonna need an answer shortly. Lane, if you're got anything on your mind, talking over with Jacob. Have you been to Bass Pro and remembered seeing anything on the wall? Or you didn't. Time's closing in, boys. Gonna take one. If I'm guessing, I'm gonna say Manitoba. You're guessing? Okay, well, this way you shouldn't guess. Um that's wrong. But not a bad guess at all. Because you think Saskatchewan's next Manitoba, the world record that still was to this day, Saskatchewan, you know. It's a good guess, yeah. Farmland, prairie land, all that kind of thing. Good guess. So, boys, uh, second largest, Alberta, Iowa, or Wisconsin.

SPEAKER_04:

I'm gonna go with an American one on this. I and I'm between Wisconsin or Iowa.

SPEAKER_00:

And I'm leaning more towards But then see, Alberta's on the other side of Saskatchewan, too.

SPEAKER_02:

What did he say? He said Manitoba. Okay.

SPEAKER_00:

And then I put Alberta in there to the I like the states one. Just to make you think, because it's on the other side of Saskatchewan. But I mean, these other states have big deer too.

SPEAKER_04:

I think that I'll I right away I was I thought I don't know. I'm I'm thinking Iowa, but yeah.

SPEAKER_02:

That's what I wasn't gonna say.

SPEAKER_04:

I thought at first that Manitoba and Alberta, they would make sense because it's right next to Saskatchewan. But Saskatchewan's in the middle. Kid also could have thrown that in there just because it would be a good idea. And he did mention and he made a Canadian comment right away, which is like, oh, he's trying to give one or trying to train them around. And Wisconsin has the most entries, so it makes sense that they could have So you're going between you're between you're thinking between Iowa and Wisconsin.

SPEAKER_00:

Correct. Because you think I'm trying to throw you off.

SPEAKER_04:

But I'm I'm leaning more towards Iowa, but I'm not 100%. Scott, weigh in a bit.

SPEAKER_02:

I did weigh in. I think that uh Ryan's gonna answer it either way. I'm with him. I agree. Uh oh man.

SPEAKER_00:

I think these are really nice buck grunts.

SPEAKER_02:

They're all good states and provinces. Maybe the four of them like they're all good beer hunting spots, right? Iowa. Sure.

SPEAKER_00:

Iowa? Yeah. I thought you guys were gonna choose Wisconsin because of the previous question. I almost, I almost when I looked at this, I'm like, oh shit, maybe I shouldn't have put Wisconsin in there. It was Wisconsin? It's Wisconsin. So because remember, Wisconsin has the most. So then after I thought that I shouldn't have put that in here because maybe you guys would think it's a dead giveaway.

SPEAKER_06:

But um if there's any listeners out there in Wisconsin, we'll trade you a New Brunswick black bear hunt for a Wisconsin whitetail, huh?

SPEAKER_00:

Uh but Alberta, I put I did put Alberta in there and Manitoba because they're on either side of Saskatchewan. Saskatchewan still holds the record. So, I mean, those are good guesses, right? And then Iowa is known for big ass deer too. So Wisconsin uh was home to the James Jordan buck who killed a 206 and 18th Boone and Crockett buck there back in 1914. That is a typical, typical white-tailed deer. Yeah. Mm-hmm. Cool. All right, boys. So it's score check. It's five for snorts, three for grunts. So, like, it's not over. It's not over.

SPEAKER_04:

We did better around the world. Yeah, you did. Around the world. Three in a row wrong now.

SPEAKER_02:

Well, I know everything about Australia, so have you been? No, my aunt lives there. Oh, yeah, I actually knew that, didn't you? I don't know everything about it, that's for sure. I just know they get mad when you call it a koala bear because it's not a bear. It's just a koala. Yeah. Do they really have syphilis? It's closer to uh her aunt or the bear?

SPEAKER_06:

Eucalyptus.

SPEAKER_00:

Eucalyptus. So they eat eucalyptus, which apparently makes them high. You keep my aunts naked out of your mouth. Apparently makes them high, so they're just yeah, they've got syphilis and they're high all day. Yeah. I went to high school with people like that. Um they're like that now. Uh good Australia fact, Scott. Don't call them koala bears. It's just koalas. Yeah. Don't pick them up, apparently.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00:

Um, all right, so for team snorts. I think it's uh grunts. Grunts? Yeah. Right. You guys got yeah, yeah, you're right. All right. Team grunts. What age is the oldest recorded wild white-tailed deer? Is it 15 years? B and I'll give you a bonus question with this. I will. Is it A 15 years? B, 22 years, C 25 years, or D 30 years. What age is the oldest recorded wild white-tailed deer? 15, 22, 25, or 30.

SPEAKER_02:

This is your guy's question, isn't it?

SPEAKER_00:

No, it's our no, it's ours. Seriously.

SPEAKER_02:

Oh, put your thinking caps on. Put it on, Scott.

SPEAKER_00:

Or loosen it up or something. Whatever you gotta do. And I'll I'll put a bonus.

SPEAKER_02:

What was the kind of depression? I had 21 in my head for some reason.

SPEAKER_04:

So you're pretty close then. He has an answer at 22 and at 25.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah, but I'm pretty sure I got the 20 right. But I don't know what the second number is. That is important. Yeah, he said a few second numbers there. So yeah, yeah, he also said 30, too. Yeah. But I don't think that one. I don't think that's it either.

SPEAKER_00:

So this, yeah, like said oldest recorded wild white till deer.

SPEAKER_02:

Can you repeat answers again?

SPEAKER_00:

Repeat. It's 15, 22, 25, or 30.

SPEAKER_02:

I think it's 22 or 25. I'm not sure which one.

SPEAKER_00:

Why do you think that, Scott? Because I have 21, something like that. I thought 21.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah, that's why.

SPEAKER_00:

That's an old that's an old deer. I mean, any numbers on here, it's it's that's an old deer. Mm-hmm. This is still pretty close to the case.

SPEAKER_04:

The bonus question is gonna be where it was shot. It is not.

SPEAKER_02:

Oh, really? No. It's gonna be where it was.

SPEAKER_04:

But that's the same thing, I think.

SPEAKER_02:

Was it shot though? Was it shot?

SPEAKER_00:

Was it was it shot where it was?

SPEAKER_02:

You know what I mean? Or was it just like somebody doing a study on it and it never got shot? Oh, and found it, okay.

SPEAKER_00:

It was not shot. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02:

I have 25 kicking around up there, what and the 25. You guys are going with 25.

SPEAKER_00:

You guys are going with the wrong. Let me check. Answer. Yep. Wrong one. Yeah. What do you guys think? Oh, Lane, take it away. Yeah, Lane, you thought you knew. Why do you think you know? You think?

SPEAKER_06:

I was gonna say 25 was my answer, too. Was it?

SPEAKER_03:

I'm pretty sure it was 22 and it was a dough.

SPEAKER_00:

Lane, you took the words right out of my mouth. I should have. So that was gonna be the bonus question. Was it a buck or dough? It is a 22-year-old.

SPEAKER_03:

So I feel like I should get two points for that. You did? But I didn't ask it. I didn't fuck it. I didn't ask it. Yeah, you fucked it.

SPEAKER_02:

Should have left that dough thing alone until.

SPEAKER_00:

Scott, I'll give you that. You were thinking 21 right away. And then it was 22.

SPEAKER_02:

So you I don't even know why I had it in my head, 21. I don't either.

SPEAKER_00:

Blink. Um but well, it was a good blink. Uh no, plink. Oh, plink. I thought you said blink.

SPEAKER_02:

It was a brain plink.

SPEAKER_00:

I've never heard of a brain plink before.

SPEAKER_02:

Just made it up. Just like 21. Just like the 21.

SPEAKER_00:

You were you were close, so yeah, a 22-year-old Louisiana Doe was documented by Matson's laboratory. Okay. I hadn't had that.

SPEAKER_02:

It was an odd number. I've I've read it somewhere before, I'm pretty sure, is why I had 21 in my head.

SPEAKER_00:

Well, it was 22, so you're close. Yeah. Uh Lane, why do you how'd you know that?

SPEAKER_03:

Uh I listened to a lot of hunting podcasts.

SPEAKER_00:

They talked about that? Yeah. Yeah? I did not listen to those ones. What one?

SPEAKER_03:

Working class.

SPEAKER_00:

Oh yeah? Really? Yeah. So a 22-year-old Louisiana Doe was documented by Madsen's Laboratory in 2013. Yeah, 2013. So alright, you guys got it. So this. Alright, so you guys, so it's team snorts. Question. What is the heaviest field-dressed buck ever recorded? Is it A380? B 400, C 430, or D 470? What is the heaviest field-dressed buck ever recorded? 380, 400, 430, 470.

SPEAKER_02:

Oh, the old Boone Crocking guy just swings the old mic. No and Butter. Yeah, Lane likes to eat the horns.

SPEAKER_06:

So the the biggest one was what? Four. What was the last one you said? The biggest one.

SPEAKER_00:

The 470. Biggest number. 470. Biggest number. Now this is ever recorded, so.

SPEAKER_06:

Yeah, I think with the guts, that's a 500-pound deer. I think that's that I think is pushing it.

unknown:

380 sticking out because of that.

SPEAKER_00:

Lane says 380 is.

SPEAKER_06:

I got a field dressed.

SPEAKER_00:

You're going to go with 380?

SPEAKER_06:

That's correct. We would like to go with 380 pounds.

SPEAKER_00:

I think it's burn. So Ryan and Scott, heaviest field dressed buck ever recorded. Not 380. So you're between 400, 400 and 100. Ryan's over there doing sign language.

SPEAKER_02:

So I was just signing 430.

SPEAKER_04:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00:

You're going with 430?

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00:

Scott?

SPEAKER_02:

I'm with Ryan on this.

SPEAKER_00:

I'm going to back my partner up. That's good. You should back your partner up. Because you guys have the right answer. Fuck catching the boys. Um, yeah, so the Annette buck is considered the biggest white-tailed deer ever killed by weight. Weighing in at 430 pounds field dressed when killed by John Annette in 1977. Uh, it's estimated to be about 540 live weight. Alright, so here is the bonus one. And actually, I'm gonna give two points for this. So if you guys get it right, you tie it up. If you guys get it right, you're it's it's it's win. Yeah. So this is this is for the grunt. So this can be hard. So John Annette in 1977 killed this deer. Okay. Where? State or province? You guys answer? You guys answer. The tension's killing me. This is good. So, like I said, if you guys answer right, team grunt. Can we just tie it up?

SPEAKER_04:

Do we get to keep answering until there's a right answer? Alright, let's go.

SPEAKER_06:

Could you spell his last name for me?

SPEAKER_04:

A N N E T T kind of thing? Yep.

SPEAKER_06:

Yep.

SPEAKER_04:

A E-T-T or A-E-T-T-E. She's just trying to Google it here in a second. Okay.

SPEAKER_00:

So yeah, alright, let's do a Spitfire. You guys, you guys start giving notes.

SPEAKER_02:

Whose answer is it supposed to be? Let them go first, whoever is.

SPEAKER_00:

No, no, you guys can back and forth. Give me start giving me provinces or states one at a time until we get it right. Manitoba. No. Okay.

SPEAKER_02:

Michigan.

SPEAKER_00:

Michigan? No. Boys. No. Louisiana. No. This this is this is it. Like did they answer right? They win. You guys answer right? She's tied up.

SPEAKER_04:

Minnesota?

SPEAKER_00:

No.

SPEAKER_03:

South Dakota.

SPEAKER_01:

No. Alberta. No. Wisconsin. No. Illinois. No. Maine? No.

SPEAKER_00:

Ontario? You guys have just tied the game. Holy shit. It is. It is Ontario, Canada. That surprised me. Does it say where in Ontario? Uh no, I didn't see where, but Ontario, Canada.

SPEAKER_04:

It had to be like a good. Yeah, it had to be a cold state because you get bigger body deep or province.

SPEAKER_00:

It's been the most, I think this podcast, seven, or trivia seven, this has been like the most intense, holy shit, awesome moments, I think, of all of them. It started off with Scott blowing that butt. The look on Scott's face when I said it was a butt blown butt grunt.

SPEAKER_04:

I think it's a butt grunt, not a butt grunt.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, butt grunt. Um, all right, boys. So I've got to leave the room because I don't have a bonus question. And I'm gonna come back and I'm gonna ask, I'm gonna make up, well, I'm not gonna make it up. I'm gonna make it up, but it's gonna be true. And when I come back, In the room, uh you guys, either team can answer. Okay?

SPEAKER_02:

Is that a picture of that, Buck? Yeah, it is it.

SPEAKER_00:

That's huge.

SPEAKER_02:

Whoa, that is insane.

SPEAKER_00:

1977. Okay, and we're back, guys. I just want to say win, lose, or draw. I am beyond proud of both teams. This has been the most intense and by far the closest uh trivia we've ever had. I mean, you guys remember the first couple trivias is like a landslide. It'd be like 6-1 or 10 to 2, or you know, like it was it wasn't even close. Then we started getting closer. And this one's been closest ever. Oh, by far. Yeah we've never had it. Well, it's a tie.

SPEAKER_04:

Well, yeah, get closer. True.

SPEAKER_00:

Uh actually, no, I think we had one that was actually similar. It wasn't quite neck and neck. Well, I'll I'll have to go back and look at the one was conicted.

SPEAKER_02:

The one that I was fairly close. Was pretty close, I think.

SPEAKER_00:

Alright, so this, I mean, you guys, these buck grunts are great. I'm gonna, you know. You can you can taste the wood if you put it in. Fair enough. Oh no. Uh kids listen to this boy. Settle in. Uh all right, so anyways, really nice buck grunts. Here's the question. And you guys, either we're gonna do another thing, either side can answer until we get it right.

SPEAKER_04:

Oh, so Lane can answer early.

SPEAKER_00:

No, no answering early. So a 2013 Penn State study and a 2015 replicated study revealed the distance traveled by deer during daylight was greater because of what factor what made the deer travel more during the day? Is it parametric pressure? No.

SPEAKER_03:

Moon phase?

SPEAKER_00:

No. And I I mean this is for the buck run, so I'm on this is harder. This is a harder question, okay?

SPEAKER_02:

Predators?

SPEAKER_00:

Nope. Not predators. Precipitation? No. You guys do a few more guesses, it'll it give you some hints.

SPEAKER_06:

Um it's what makes them move more during the day, right? Yes.

SPEAKER_00:

What factor? What would cause them to move more during the day? No.

SPEAKER_04:

I was gonna say if it if that's what it was, that yeah, yeah, rut.

SPEAKER_00:

Is it so it's not that, so then we're coming back to weather, maybe?

SPEAKER_04:

Is it like an oncoming storm?

SPEAKER_00:

No, but you're getting closer.

SPEAKER_02:

Rain.

SPEAKER_00:

No.

SPEAKER_02:

Temperature.

SPEAKER_00:

A cold front. No. You guys are really beating around it. Uh low pressure? No, it's not the barometric. Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_04:

Yeah, that was my first guess on it.

SPEAKER_00:

No, I don't know that's a good guess. It's a really good guess. Could it be fr could it be frost? It is not frost. I'm gonna give you a hint. When Ryan said when a storm's coming. Or during a storm? You you're closer with that. What do you tell me something about a storm?

SPEAKER_03:

Wind.

SPEAKER_00:

Lane? You guys won the buck grunts. Like I could just see Lane looking, and then I just see your eyes.

SPEAKER_06:

It was that simple. They just move more on a windy day.

SPEAKER_00:

So according to these studies, um deer traveled 35 meters per hour more than when uh okay, sorry. Travel more during daylight was greater with one to fifteen mile per hour winds. Deer traveled 35 meters per hour with one to fifteen mile per hour winds, than when less than one mile per hour, deer traveled 30 meters per hour. The distance traveled during daylight skyrocketed to 65 meters per hour with 16 to 27 miles per hour winds. Of course, other factors such as barometric pressure and weather fronts might have affected movement. Still, there's no denying deer that deer moved further during daylight with high winds. I just see Lane's eyes light up. Just clicked. See what I mean though by the storm thing? Because storms bring winds normally.

SPEAKER_02:

Gave you this answer. Preferably in daylight at my deer standard.

SPEAKER_06:

I don't care if it's windy or not. Yeah, exactly.

SPEAKER_00:

Uh guys, that that was excellent on both sides. That was really, really good. And these were a bit harder questions because you know, got some really cool prizes, so you had to work for it. Um that was that's good. That was really, really good.

SPEAKER_06:

I got a good one here to finish us off. Okay. Going back, because as we talked so much about, we should have an Australia episode. You should interview someone. You should have someone on from Australia, but uh in Australia, what is there more what is there more of? People or kangaroos? Kangaroos. Kangaroos. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02:

Spiders.

SPEAKER_00:

That wasn't on there, Scott.

SPEAKER_02:

I don't like spiders.

SPEAKER_06:

The Google tells me that uh Australia in 2024 had a population of 27.2 million people. And according to the Australian government population estimates on kangaroos, they were at 42.8 million in 2019. Holy. Down from 53.2 million in 2013.

SPEAKER_00:

It's bad you hit them with like people hit them with vehicles and stuff, right?

SPEAKER_06:

They commercially hunt them in Australia.

SPEAKER_02:

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. I actually had jerk uh kangaroo jerky my mom brought back from Australia when she went there. Damn terrible meat, man. First thing I ever put in my mouth.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, it is. Well, no wonder the population is so high if they taste terrible. Yeah. Who wants to hunt them? Um, all right, boys. Till next time. Uh, and Jacob and Lane, your grunts. And I would like to uh thank River's Edge Game Calls for sponsoring this with awesome prizes.