Hunts On Outfitting Podcast

From Pheasant Winds To Bear Wins: A Guide’s Week In New Brunswick

Kenneth Marr Season 2 Episode 92

Send us a text

A stormy marsh, a wired bird dog, and a mystery moose set the tone for a guiding week that never slowed down. We chased pheasants through sideways wind, switched gears to fast teal that humbled everyone, and settled into deer blinds where does grazed within bow range while the mature bucks played the long game. Between hunts we warmed up under an old covered bridge, swapped stories, and leaned on the small-town magic where friends appear just when you need a spare set of hands.

The moments that made it: a German shorthaired pointer muscling through thorns like it’s his job; teal ripping the horizon and teaching tough lessons about lead, target focus, and low light; and a first-bear story that will live forever. Phoenix, twelve years old, shouldered a 6.5, waited on a clean lane, and made a perfect shot. We tracked a short distance and found him twenty yards away. Clean setup, calm trigger, high-fives all around. Later, the beagles sang through the timber as snowshoe hare looped back on quiet feet, turning a three-pound rabbit into a heart-thumping event.

Deer hunters will nod at the familiar twist: we held out for target bucks, stacked sightings of smaller racks and six-pack groups of does, then watched trail cams light up the evening our guests headed home. That’s why we scout hard, place blinds to manage wind and scent, and let food plots do their work. We also talk teal tactics, pheasant realities in New Brunswick’s young season, and why hounds—from coon dogs to beagles—can turn a slow day into a great night.

Want more of this energy? We’re building toward expanded hunts—spring bear, whitetails, ducks, pheasants, and rabbit days—and listeners will get first dibs and a break on price. Hit play, ride along for the stories and tactics, then subscribe, share with your hunting crew, and leave a review to help us grow. What hunt should we guide for you next?

Check us out on Facebook Hunts On Outfitting, or myself Ken Marr. Reach out and Tell your hunting buddies about the podcast if you like it, Thanks!

SPEAKER_00:

This is Hunts and Outfitting Podcast. I'm your host and rookie guide, Ken Meyer. I love everything hunting, the outdoors, and all things associated with it. From stories to how-tos, you'll find it here. Welcome to the podcast. Alright, hey guys, gals. Welcome, welcome back. Uh fired up to have you guys listening. As always, this podcast is growing every month, and that is because of you guys. So thank you for listening. Thank you for sharing us out. And uh please keep it up. So this week on the podcast, we are talking about uh about two weeks ago now, did some uh some guiding with some dear friends of ours, clients, friends, started out as clients, turned into friends. So we're gonna be talking about that. Uh it's a good time. They're out for a variety of animals, and we'll tell you about that, particularly deer this year. And uh, I know a lot of you guys and gals are into full swing of deer season right now. And uh, you know, that's great. Me, I don't uh how the hunting is around here, it's kind of hard to spot and stalk. You can do a little bit of it, and I do, but uh, there's just so many leaves and crunchy, and the size of land isn't massive here, so I mean it's a lot of stand hunting, and me, I personally, uh I I get bored way too easily, way too easily sitting there. But I love putting in the work. I love scouting, I love putting up trail cameras, building stands, moving around stands, food plots, working the land and everything for that, figuring out where the deer are rubbed, scrapes, looking for all of it. I love that part. As far as the hunting actually goes for deer, I don't mind setting people up in my stands and uh letting them take a crack at it. I'll do a bit myself, but um, I like putting in the work more than I actually like, you know, the hunting of them. I like uh like a little more fast-paced. Um also we're gonna be talking about some working dogs in here. My coon hounds, you know, we had those out, my beagles, we had them out, a friend of mine, we had his German short hair pointer out. All these dogs work hard and do well, and in order to keep doing that, they're running off of Enook Shook dog food. All these dogs mentioned in this podcast are on it, and they perform well perform well off of it. Enookshuk ships to uh well they they have over 800 resellers in North America. They ship to them, and uh, you know, you go onto their website site, Enookshuk, you type in your address, and a reseller, a trusted reseller, is gonna come up near you, and that's where you can get your dog food from. They're not selling to these big box stores. They keep the middleman out of it, and they keep their prices lower because of it, and they're able to give you really good high-quality dog food at an affordable price. Um, yes, we're gonna get into talking about the uh the week of hunting. It was great too. We even had a seafood night. Uh, one of the guys that came out hunting, he uh he brought crab legs and scallops and shrimp, dip them up on the Blackstone uh for myself and uh my other guide helping me, Caleb. And um, you know, it was really great, and we're gonna get right into it. And if you're looking to reach out to me, you can. Uh you can email me, huntsonoutfitting at gmail.com, or you can find me on Facebook, Ken Meyer, and you can find us on Facebook to keep up with what's going on, hunts on outfitting. So uh some of you guys have been following that and been reaching out to me, and I enjoy talking to you, so thank you and keep it up. Boys, I'm happy to have you out tonight. Um, you know, it's been a little bit. Kyle, Gilly's on the podcast. You haven't been on for a little bit.

SPEAKER_02:

No, it's been a bit.

SPEAKER_00:

It has been. I'm gonna tell you a story, Ryan. Thanks for coming out too. You know, the the nights now have gotten longer, and like, what can we do? Why don't you guys come over? We'll do a podcast, and Caleb and I are gonna tell you guys a story about our guiding.

SPEAKER_03:

All kinds of lies.

SPEAKER_00:

No, no, there's no lies in it. We don't lie on this podcast. We exaggerate, make up stuff, take things out, put them in, but we never lie. Um, so with the uh with the Hunts on Outfitting podcast, the name did come from Hunts on Outfitting, which I did create and um have the copyright too and all that. Um and we do the uh it did start out as outfitting and then it morphed into the podcast. We still do that. So and how I I think I've said this on the podcast before, but how I came up with the name was when the beagles, because I mainly do the hunts with the with the beagles chasing the rabbits, when you let them go, and then all of a sudden you hear them strike and start screaming and going that they're on the scent of a rabbit, I'll look to somebody and I'll be like, Hunts on. And that's where I came up with hunts on outfitting. So a little tidbit there. So now if you didn't know, now you know the more you know, the less you don't. So, anyways, yeah, Kyle, we had a good night hunting raccoons the other night. Yeah, we did. That was interesting because Greta had treed. We thought we're like, where the hell is she? And we look down there, and then this great big, massive old brush pile that the farmer had put there, like huge.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, it was that's that's how he made that field. He just pushed it in the brand.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, he just pushed everything in, and it's huge. And we're like, I can hear, I think. I'm like, but she sounds frustrated and not like committed to a tree. Then we're like looking for, and then she's in like this hole in this massive brush pile, and I was like, here, we'll pull her out of there. She was like gonna, I thought she was gonna get stuck.

SPEAKER_02:

Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_00:

She's waiting there, and then I was like, All right, well, you're like, Are you going in? I'm like, Oh, I gotta see what she's got. So I, you know, put the headlamp on.

SPEAKER_01:

I would not have stuck my head in there. And there's a bear down in there.

SPEAKER_00:

I know, I should have should have stuck my there's one in there. Should have stuck my hand in first instead of my face, but um, and then I get looked in there, I'm like, I'm gonna need the gun. You see what? I see one. The thing's like, or whatever, you know, it's doing looking at me and it's it's right in there.

SPEAKER_01:

Was Greta in there too, or Greta was on top?

SPEAKER_00:

Oh shit, we took Greta out and tied her her and Houdini to.

SPEAKER_01:

We should have seen this.

SPEAKER_00:

It was yeah, well, we tied her her and Houdini up to this great big um my two blue tick coon hands. We tied them up to this like old stump, and they ended up breaking it. They broke it. So they were like, because I was like, boy, they sound closer, Kyle. Kyle's like, oh yeah, they're still tied, but they broke the stump. They're pulling it now.

SPEAKER_02:

I'm like, oh, okay.

SPEAKER_00:

Um, so I'm in there and I'm I'm looking in, and it it was like I jumped in this like hole to look in. It was about shoulder height, really, or head height, how far in I was. So then I still in the brush pile. In the in the brush pile, yeah, with the coon. So then I'm like looking, I see it. So I get the gun and I anyway, so I'm going down and I shoot, and I thought it was a good shot, but it wasn't. It got spinning and going, and then it went and more. So then I'm like pulling back um some brush and all that with my hand, and then I'm like, there's a coon that was just shot in here that's not fully dead, I don't think. I'm gonna, you know, use a stick. So I used a stick and to pull back some more brush and stuff, because there's like a tunnel underneath, and then everything just fell, and the thing came shooting back and it's like looking at me. I was like, gun, gun, gun, gun, gun. Anyways, Kyle gives me the gun, like, go back down, see it, made good shot on it, and like, there, I got it. And then I was like, you can let Greta go. I was like, uh, you know, she can go in the hole kind of and sniff it. I said, but there's no way in hell she'll be able to pull it out. I said, because it's like way in there. I said, she she can't reach it. Anyways, and then we're like looking, and all you see is Greta's ass, because the rest of her is in there, like, yeah, barely, her tail. Yeah, yeah. And I was like, oh, Kyle's like, I think she's gonna, I'm like, she can't reach it. And we see Greta, she's like, pulling back, and um, sure as shit, there's the raccoon. I'm like, no way, probably 35 or 40 pounds. Yeah, it's a huge raccoon, but I was like, I was like, she got it, because I I told Kyle, I'm like, yeah, she can't get it out. She can sniff it and like I'll you know, show her that you know.

SPEAKER_01:

She crawled out of there on her belly like that. Like, she wouldn't have no, you wouldn't think she'd have enough power.

SPEAKER_00:

She's just so determined, like, so determined. And then um, if Greta's the way, like, if she puts in more work for a raccoon than Houdini, that's her raccoon. If he comes near, you've you've seen it, Ryan and stuff. Like, she'll bite his head off. And then anyway, so Houdini's like walking by and she's like, you know, ragged on the raccoon, it's dead and all that. And he's just walking by, she's like, I'm like, he just kept going. Kyle's like, he doesn't want to check it out. I'm like, oh, he does, but she'll take his head clean off if he goes over there. That's her coon. So um, yeah, no, that's that was good. Yeah, because you had well, he was eating your apples, the raccoon was. Yeah, so he was fat. It's dunking that hole, too. Yeah, dude.

SPEAKER_01:

I'd say they've been in there a bit.

SPEAKER_00:

Or he was farting, like nervous farts. Like I would be too. You're just like enjoying the night, crunching on some deer hunter's apples, then you hear this whoo, you know, and you you go into your safe brush pile, and there's a dog standing there, just like just nervous farting the whole time. It smells down here. I nervous farted too when I saw him. I'm just kidding, I shit myself. But when I when I did have my face in there, I was like, hello. He's looking at me like, holy shit. Don't come forward. Yeah, yeah, we were both shitting ourselves at that point. Yeah, yeah. But um, yeah, and then uh Caleb. Uh Caleb, you've been on the podcast quite a few times before, but why don't you just give a quick introduction to yourself? If you had to sum up yourself in one word, uh several words. Several words. All right, thanks, Caleb, for that. And uh, go ahead.

SPEAKER_03:

I Caleb Jones, uh Carpenter here in New Brunswick, and guide as well. Help guide with Ken.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, good help's hard to find, but I found it. Um no, so we had these guys come down, and um really great, and this is the third year that they've come down, and I remember the first time they came down, we went on a rabbit hunt, and uh, that day it was it was uh snowing and it was like freezing rain, snowing, slush, it was just miserable. My friend Denver Lewis was helping me guide that day with them, and anyways, we got some rabbits and uh it was just a miserable day, and I told Denver, like, well, uh, I'd say that's the last time we're gonna see those guys. He's like, Yep, because we're like, there's no way they'd come back. Like that the weather and stuff just sucked. I think this is the third year that they've come down, and uh, you know, they're more they're more they're friends more than anything, and it's great to see them come down, and I think they're gonna continue to come down every year from the sounds of it, and that's great. Happy to have them. So the first time they came down, we just did the rabbit hunt. The second year they came down, because they're from a way little ways, quite a ways away, four or five hours away. They stayed in a hotel the first year, and then the second year I was like, Well, I got this lodge, you know, we can write it's a camp. It's a camp that a guy that I know uh leases it, and I he he was gonna do some outfitting out of it. It's a long story. Um, but it's not really a camp. I mean it it's a house.

SPEAKER_03:

Yeah, it's a it's a big spot.

SPEAKER_00:

It's it's really nice. It's a beautiful spot out in the middle nowhere. Um, but it's got it's two stories, it sleeps eight quite comfortably. It's got two full-size bathrooms, kitchen, washer, dryer, like it's got a garage there. You can put the four wheelers in and everything. I mean, it's a it's a nice, it's a house. It's a house. It's got uh full electricity hooked up when the power bills um paid. Uh apparently it wasn't. So we had the generator, but the generators ran everything. And um, you know, it's well and septic and all that. It's a nice spot. So the second year I was like, well, why don't you guys just stay here for the night? And then uh, you know, we'll go rabbit hunting, and they've never been coon hunting before either. And if you've never done that, it's a pile of fun. Because the first thing everyone asks, because it's at night, we've got guns and lights, they're like, is this legal? I'm like, no, so shut your mouth. No, it is a hundred percent. Um, as long as you have, you know, in New Brunswick, anyways, your hands have to be certified, they have to be hounds, you have to have your fur harvester's license, you have to have a hound hunting permit. Uh I believe that's all. Yeah. So you can, but under those parameters. And it's only coon. It's not like, well, it's coon and maybe deer. No, it's just coon. Um, so anyway, so we went rabbit hunting, and I remember uh we went out that night, got five coon. They had the first time they ever did that, it was a pile of fun. And then uh we got four or five rabbits the next day. We didn't even hunt that hard, so it was really good. I got to run the coon hounds, my blue ticks, and my beagles on the rabbits, so it was a good time. This year, they're coming down, they're like, right, let's can we stay at the uh the camp again? I'm like, absolutely. So they said we want to do uh they wanted to do more hunting, more deer hunting, because the wildlife management zone that they're in is closed for deer. There's not enough, a lot of moose. There's hardly any deer, they rarely even see deer. They see a deer, they're like, holy shit, there's a deer. So they wanted to do more, try to do some deer hunting and some other hunting. So then I was like, I'm gonna have to recruit somebody for this. And I thought, who could I get? So I went through a long list of people, everyone was busy, and at the very bottom of the list, yes, was Caleb Crazy Ass Jones. So uh Caleb came out, so no it's handy, Caleb. And uh so the first day we decided that New Brunswick just opened up a pheasant season last year. It's a two-week season, and it's root two roosters per person only. And there's not a ton of wild pheasant here.

SPEAKER_03:

No.

SPEAKER_00:

In my personal opinion, I think they opened the season a bit early. There's spots around, but there's spots, yeah. It's not a high population. No. Um, but there's a few. So there's this spot that you can go to. It's on, it's a marsh, it's a really big marsh, it's all public land, and some of it's like ducks and limited land, and you can go there and hunt. And last year we went there hunting and we flushed, uh I don't know, 18 or 20, never got that many. We saw a lot of hens and all that, but we went to the same area. We figured we'd have a good time, and then they wanted to do duck hunting after. And I was like, we can do duck hunting there, it's perfect. So um got the got them all ready, got Caleb, and this is what I like about a small town is the fact that everyone knows everybody, and I I I like that part. So we told them that we're gonna meet them at the local gas station. Caleb came to my house, picked me up. We got, you know, the barbecue or the black stone, fancy, um, loaded up and the canoe and and everything like that that we'd need for the day. And we met them there, and we have a friend, a dear friend of the podcast, who uh who's done some trivia and stuff before, uh Scott, old scooter McKillop. And uh scooter, mathematician McKillop. No, um so we told Scott was gonna come out, and Scott has a German short hair pointer, and uh he was going to bring his dog along to help out, and Scott came with me last year when we did the pheasant hunting, and Scott's uncle is actually part of the reason why we even have a pheasant season here in New Brunswick. So Caleb and I pull up and we see our crew waiting for us in their truck, and we see Scott parked next to them. We're like, I wonder if they know, because it's like it's dark out, it's like five 30 in the morning or something. It's dark. I said, You think them sitting next to each other, they know they're gonna be hunting with each other for the day? And uh Scott never met them at all, and he just pulls right up. He's like, You guys know Ken Mayer? You going hunting with him? They're like, Yeah, we are. He's like, I'm Scott, I'm gonna go be with you too.

SPEAKER_02:

I'm coming.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, I'm coming. So it's just funny though, that's how they met. But yeah, he just pulled up, and there's like, that's a carpool area, so like it could have been anybody, right? And yeah, Scott just, you guys know Ken? You going hunting? Okay.

SPEAKER_03:

Yeah, that wasn't the only time throughout the week that they were sitting in a local parking lot and somebody rolled up and asked if they were hunting with Ken for the week.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, yeah. So yeah, it was later too when uh they were waiting for me. I'd picked up one group to bring them to the truck and I was going to get the other. And um, they were sitting in a parking lot, and same thing, a buddy of mine, Lane, Lane, you know, pulls up, like, you guys hunting with Ken? They're like, Yeah. It's like, okay, I know Ken.

SPEAKER_03:

I feel I feel bad for you guys.

SPEAKER_00:

He didn't say that. Uh if he did, he didn't mean it. So um, no, but it's funny. Yeah, that's what I like about the small town. People, you know, they know. I mean, sometimes it's good, sometimes it's bad, but was that your butt I saw on the news the other night or something? I don't know. But whatever you've been up to. Um so yeah, the um so the group there's we met, we got with Scott, and then those who uh who hang out with me enough and know me, uh I'm not overly serious, and and sometimes I can be no one knows when to take me seriously, which sometimes can bite me in the butt because no one believes me. And Caleb, Caleb's a good example of that. Ryan, your uh your girlfriend's a good example of that too. She'd be like, I I don't know if are you being serious, Ken, or not? I'm like, I'm being dead serious, because I will say some crazy stuff that is true. And she's like, I think you are, but I'm I'm not sure. He's like, is he Ryan? Or you're like, I don't know. He said he is. I'm like, no, I am. So how we went to this spot where we're going hunting is you're on the highway, or you know, those in the states you call the interstate. Um, and what you do is I told Caleb, like, all right, we're gonna go on the highway, and then we're gonna take the exit for this place called Olach. I said as soon as you can't take the exit, you're gonna turn right, you're gonna get back on the highway, and you're gonna go right back to the direction that we just came from.

SPEAKER_03:

Yeah, didn't believe that.

SPEAKER_00:

And Caleb didn't believe me at all. And so I'll he's like, which way do we go? I'm like, right. And Caleb's like, no, and Caleb goes left. And I was like, I told you right. We're like, well, I thought you were screwing with me. I'm like, no, we go right back the way that we came, and then there's actually a little road off the highway that we take. We're like, well, it's we're having a bathroom break now. Yeah. So we ended up going to the gas station that was to the left because Caleb didn't believe me. Anyway, so we got there. Finally, we get back on the highway, go right.

SPEAKER_03:

Yep.

SPEAKER_00:

Way, the right way.

SPEAKER_03:

Back toward Sackville.

SPEAKER_00:

Back towards Sackville, yeah. And then we get on there and then um and then we get ready for Pheasant. So then uh Scott, we got Scott getting his dog Howie, old Howard, uh, the German short hair, and he is like wound for sound. He's I'll tell you those breeds are high energy.

SPEAKER_03:

Yeah, he was loving it.

SPEAKER_00:

He was, and the his owner's high energy too, so we got geared up and all that. And I don't know what the weather was shit. We had high winds, we had rain. I think the pheasants were hunkered down because we didn't flush many. We flushed a hen that was low that everyone could have shot quite easily. Uh, but that was a hen, and then a rooster that was shot at, missed.

SPEAKER_03:

Missed or hit and dinged down. One of the yeah.

SPEAKER_00:

Couldn't find them, but uh there they were just holed up on the what it was. We went to all the same places as we did the year before, and um it just didn't and we did some walking too.

SPEAKER_03:

That was a lot of walking that day.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, we did a lot of walking. The dog did really well too. Um, but you know, everyone had fun. Scott's uh Scott's entertaining. Those who know him, he's uh he he's entertaining. Yeah, so you won't be bored on that hunt with him. Uh and then yeah, Howie did a great job hunting and all that too. And and then uh it was pretty rough walking, so Scott ended up putting Howie, he he's just he's skinny because he's so high energy. Scott feeds him well, but the German short hair pointers, the working ones, are skinny. And it was cold that day and he was shivering, so Scott had like a vest on him. Yeah, and it got all wet. The vest was soaking wet though from the rain. The dog's like trying to take it off. He almost took off Caled's bumper with the truck because he's like rubbing to try to take it off. And then Scott ends up he ends up putting these booties on him, on the dog, later in the day, too, because it was so thorns and all that. I'm like, I don't know. I'd never seen that, and I definitely wouldn't put it on my hands, but like, you know what? Whatever you gotta do to keep your dog going, Scott. So he did, so the dog's like, quick, quick, quick, quick, quick, going. Like that. And then he'd like go into this thick stuff, and we're like, we're like, Scott, he's his boots coming off. Scott's like, for fuck's sakes, and he'd like trying to put the boot back on, and then uh he'd go into this other thick stuff, like come out like Scott, he left his vest in there. Scott would like dump jump this ditch to go get and eat shit. Like, anyways, that was pretty entertaining. And um, and then Caleb brought his black stone, and then there's a big old abandoned uh covered bridge out there in the middle of this marsh, and it was it was so windy and everything, just shit that day.

SPEAKER_03:

It was pretty miserable out there. It was pretty nice to find some shelter.

SPEAKER_00:

Well, so yeah, so we found the shelter. We had the black stone going and all that in there. He had nice fresh percolated coffee and uh burgers and stuff, and it was nice being in there. Um, when Scott fell through the bridge, we realized why it was decommissioned. No, but uh it was decommissioned. We had to like go over this barrier to get in, like we didn't drive in there, we walked in. But it was nice, it was quite nice. We got out of the wind and rain and all that. So then um, and then here it comes back again about people not taking me seriously. So we're going along, we see this big black thing out in one of the fields in the marsh, and we're like, what is that? We're like, I think it's a bear, and I was like, Well, we've got our bear tags, right? Like, we could shoot it. And as we're going, and Caleb gives me his binoculars, and then I'm I'm looking, and Caleb's like, is it a bear? I was like, No, it's a moose. And Caleb's like, Oh, okay, if you're gonna fucking be like that, like just go. I'm like, because it's not a screwing with him. And Caleb starts driving away. I was like, Oh, because he thought it's groom with him, like, no, I'm dead serious, it's a moose. And then um he's like, Oh, you're being serious.

SPEAKER_03:

It's a moose laying down in the middle of a field in the middle of a marsh, and it yeah, it did not look like a moose.

SPEAKER_00:

So no, so anyway, until you put the binoculars up, you can see so it's a bull, it was a young younger bull, and so it we're looking, we're like, oh, that's kind of neat. And then then we got thinking about later, we're like, I wonder, because the highway was a few kilometers from there. Yeah, you could see it, and we're like, I don't wonder though, is it was hit on the highway and went there and laid down because it was laying down for a while, right? So I don't know, so then we we went there and we were hunting, and then the the uh on these dirt roads out there, the police show up, and then uh Caleb just joking.

SPEAKER_03:

Took off running, yeah.

SPEAKER_00:

Well, yeah, yeah, because he's got a lot of warrants. No, but Caleb just I thought he was joking, Caleb's like, you think I can register my truck before they run the plates? I'm like, uh yeah, maybe I don't know. And then I'll Caleb's like, and then one of the guys we were hunting with is like, no, I noticed Caleb when we were at the gas station, Caleb's plates are expired. It's like, oh, so Caleb's like, yeah, I think he did it online. Caleb's doing it online, he's like quickly like trying to register his truck because the police are parked there for a while, and then and then that we got we figured out in our group, Scott was on up ahead that somebody probably called that the moose was hit. And because then they were waiting at our vehicles. Maybe they thought that we were the ones that called, and then they went further up. And uh anyway, so then the police get out, and then we they're they're a ways, they're a little ways away. Yeah, like you couldn't you could see them, but not super well. Anyways, they're putting it, so they're putting on their jacket, right? Because it's kind of it's wet and windy, and their arms out because they're putting their sleeve in. And then Scott's like, Well, they're waving us over. He's like, he's like, fuck. He's like, Oh, I'm not going over. They can come in here and get me. I'm like, I I was like, I don't even think they're looking this way, Scott. He's like, and they they weren't, but it's hard to tell, but you could tell they weren't looking at us, they're looking at the moose, right? And it's a it was a ways off. I don't know how many yards off, is a little ways off. And then uh Scott's like, no, they they want well, I'm not going out there. They can come in here and get me. I'm like, I I really don't think they're looking at you, Scott. I think it's something to do with the moose. He's like, No, and then the officer was like, I don't know if they were taking off their hat or something like that. Scott's like, look, they just waved us over again. I was like, No, I don't I don't think so, Scott. Like they're adjusting their uniform or something. Anyway, so this other person showed up and they're they're there with the police for a while, like looking at this moose. So that's what we figured would happen, because we end up coming out after Caleb got his truck registered, and um, they didn't come over at all. So then, anyways, then uh we figured like, all right, well, the day's getting on, uh, the pheasant hunting, you know, I think this weather wasn't going well. I said, we're gonna do some duck hunting though. And the ducks, there were the ducks were plentiful. So we get all set up, and Caleb is good guy, and we were like, all right, we're gonna set up here, and I had this face paint, right? And I I love face paint because I was raised by my mom. No, uh he loves doing his makeup. No. Um I I was raised by my mom, but um Andy does like doing his makeup. But no, that's slightly true. No, I uh I don't know, I like putting on the face paint because, well, for one, you don't have to worry about putting the mask on and off, and like you're breathing in it, you can smell your freaking coffee breath and this and that with the face paint. It does cover your you know white face all up if you're white, and uh and the ducks will see it and flare, you know. So, because we have a friend that has uh a big round uh baby face, and uh if he's listening to this, he probably won't catch on who I'm talking about. And I think the ducks see it and flare it. Don't know. Nah, I won't know. Um I just like it better than a face mask, but I do think they're necessary when waterfell hunting because they can see quite well. So then I was like, all right, I'm gonna put on this face paint, and then I told him, I was just joking, like, you guys put some on too if you want. And like they're all for it. I'm like, fucking right, let's get let's get her going. This is our tribe. Um, so anyway, so we were well camouflaged. Yeah. So I was like, all right, we're gonna lay in this bank here, and then you know, the ducks would come in. We Caleb, you and I were doing some calling, you were on one side with uh part of the group, and I was on the other side with part of the group, and like I went on. Red Rover, Red Rover, send those shot shells right over. No, um, we were on the same side. Uh like of the pond and in life in general, we were on the same side. Um until uh until the uh topic of abortions came up. No, I'm just kidding. So um, so we were on the same side. So I was like, I'm gonna get up and I'm gonna go spook the ducks because they were they were laying down in this other spot of the pond, and I could kind of wait over there though. But looking back, like the face paint and our the stuff we were wearing, like we were you couldn't see us at all, really. I sat on somebody. No, no, but we we were really well camouflaged, it did work well. Um so the group, uh not I'm not gonna knock them, but they admitted it. Uh they're gonna practice skeet shooting uh before they come down next year.

SPEAKER_03:

There there was some some missed opportunities.

SPEAKER_00:

There was yeah, uh yeah. You guys had a lot of ducks come in that night? We did actually. Yeah, yeah, the duck hunting was good.

SPEAKER_03:

But we knew there was ducks there. Oh yeah, yeah. Ducks there for sure.

SPEAKER_00:

Uh Caleb and I were doing call no, we we did how many we had a lot of ducks come in.

SPEAKER_03:

Yeah, there was there was lots of it.

SPEAKER_00:

But in their defense, so they hadn't really hunted them. So Caleb and I, you know. They're fast. They are fast, and we're we're hunting. There's mainly teal there.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00:

And teal, they are small. They're small and they dip and they dive and they go. And I mean, yeah. If you're not used to it, they are teal can be, even if you're used to it, they can be hard to hit. They're really fast. It's like a flying chicken nugget. Basically, yeah. A chicken nugget. No, that's they taste like it. Um but they're really small, there's not much to them, and they can just yeah, they can move or maneuver in the air really fast. Uh, and then they they also couldn't tell, like sometimes the ducks seemed farther away to them. But Caleb and I did tell them, we're like, we're like, oh like, take them, take them, take them. And and be like that. And then we'd see that duck fly off. We're like, okay, that's all right, we got more coming. Um, so then you staged with one group, and I took part of them too. I'm like, all right, you guys stay there, we're gonna go up here, and I could hear you guys shooting away. We were shooting away. I'm just like, all right, guys, we're gonna go up to this little spot in the pond here. I said, There's gonna be ducks in there. I said, I'm gonna just hit the ground. I said, You guys open fire, right? And so they did, and I've I forgot to, you know, hit the ground. So I'm looking for a new hat if anyone's got one. Um I still can't hear anything out of my left ear. Um no, but I uh so I was like, all right, get ready. So I get down, I just I just I just hit the ground, right? I hit the dirt, and they open fired, uh and uh and the ducks were safe. Um and Caleb's group too, and then they ended up uh we got a couple.

SPEAKER_03:

Yeah, we had one that snuck right in on us. It was it was getting to last light, it wasn't there yet, but we had one sneak right in on us or along the horizon. He couldn't really see it because it was so dark with like the trees in the background or whatever. But you could see we could actually see the reflection of the bird landing on the water before he could see the bird in the sky. Yeah. Here's that sitting there like, shoot him, shoot him, shoot him, and they're like looking for him, and then they finally shot after him after he jumped up. He had hit the water, sat there for a minute, and then jumped back up, and they shot him when he jumped up.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, we brought the canoe, and I was like, I'm gonna try to wade out to him. I don't want to unload the canoe for one little teal. And luckily I was I was able to wade out and get him. But uh no, we did we the duck hunting was really good. Um, the shooting, I mean, they're hard, and you just they're gonna practice some skeet shooting.

SPEAKER_01:

They're a tough bird to shoot.

SPEAKER_00:

They are. Yeah. And you don't realize, like I said, their their depth perception with it, like they couldn't tell sometimes they seemed real far or or they were closer than they thought, stuff like that. So I mean, Caleb and I tried to help tell them when, but it's yeah, that's it's how it is. Can be humbling.

SPEAKER_01:

Yep.

SPEAKER_00:

And that's okay.

SPEAKER_01:

Well, that's the hardest waterfowl bird to shoot.

SPEAKER_00:

Teal, yeah. Oh, yeah, by fire. Yeah. Uh so anyway, so that no, that was fun, though. We still we had a lot of fun. A lot of fun. Like, yeah, Scott was entertaining and Howie did a really good job and and all that, and uh, we had a lot of fun.

SPEAKER_03:

So then uh Yeah, I didn't really have much to say that day.

SPEAKER_00:

No, so Caleb lost his voice that day, which was great. Yeah, um, actually it's kind of annoying because I was just answering myself all the questions I was asking in the conversation. So I was having a lot of people.

SPEAKER_03:

I got to the I got to listen to Ken's inner dialogue on the way home because I couldn't answer. He did.

SPEAKER_00:

I was saying everything I was thinking inside of the house. I was. I was like, well, I don't know, Caleb said I think that went pretty good, but I said it would have been nice to get, you know, some more birds, but what do you think? And Caleb's like and I was like, yeah, I don't know, Caleb. I mean, you're right. I guess it's not our fault that the weather was bad and you know there should be more fun. I think they had fun too, right?

SPEAKER_03:

Yeah, you're right, Caleb. I am a pretty good guy to night. It's a great hour drive home.

SPEAKER_00:

I'm the most handsome guy you've ever met. Well, thanks, Caleb. You shouldn't have. Um you want to kiss me? Oh no, sorry, Caleb. I'm happily married man, or whatever he said. I don't know, it's just paraphrasing. But um Yeah, and then we stopped at remember we stopped at McDonald's way back, and I kept I had all my camel on and face paint, and I I grew uh the biggest beard I've grown in my life, which isn't that big, and I damn near look like Duck Dynasty in there, and I was getting a lot of stares.

SPEAKER_03:

Mm-hmm. I'm pretty sure somebody asked you for your autograph. Do you remember that?

SPEAKER_00:

Like four.

SPEAKER_03:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00:

No, I don't know. And then we went to Bass Pro after. I'm like, I don't think everyone at Bass Pro is gonna stare at me funny wearing all this in there. And we got the You always stare at me funny. Oh yeah, and then Caleb. So Caleb had no voice or hardly any voice. And then Caleb had sawdust in his eye from the day before, and he was digging at it. So one of his eyes was like right buggered out.

SPEAKER_03:

Not from the day before. That was from the drive home.

SPEAKER_00:

Was it? Yeah. Why did you have sawdust?

SPEAKER_03:

I don't know. Carpenter, sawdust in my truck.

SPEAKER_00:

Oh yeah, okay. Um, all right, so so we had it. So his by the time we got to Bass Pro though, because Caleb been picking at it, it looked like buggered. Like it looked bad, it looked like pink guy on steroids. And so we're in there, and I bought a Fox Pro call uh Fox Pro coyote collar to do some count hunting this year. And the girl's like at the camera, she's like, You guys getting back from hunting? And because I had my face paint on camera and all that, I'm like, what gave it away? She's like, and then parody. Yeah, and then and then um and then she like looks at Cale, it's like she's like, You were hunting too? And Cale's like, yeah. And then she's like looking at him, like looking at me, and I'm like, he's fine. I'm like, he's just a little, you know, exaggerative uh with stuff. I'm like, no, I said he got sawdust in his eye and he lost his voice. She's like, okay, he doesn't look too good. I'm like, oh not any day, does he? But you know, just today worse. No, you did look bad. And I'll I'll just told him like he's fine, he just exaggerates and stuff. He's a bit of a wimp. But Caleb, like I said, no hardly, little to no voice. Like I said, his eye looked like pink guy, got pink eye, like ant low to bag. She's just like staring at us. But anyways, so then the next morning, told the hunters, I'm like, all right, so they drove their truck out to uh this spa, it's like oh, 15, 20 minutes from the camp, and then they got in my truck and I dropped two of them off at two stands, two of them off, or two of them off, yeah, at their own stands, and then two of them off. There was a couple, Jacob and Marissa, and they were gonna hunt in a stand together. And um the deer hunting, it's it was the first week of deer season, it's always slow here. That's everyone finds that. You guys agree? It is, it's slow, it's not uh, but they saw lots of deer, so they all I think all of them in all their stands saw deer, except for maybe one morning somebody didn't. Okay, yeah. But that but yeah, we had four of them. One, yeah, the Jake and Marissa wanted to hunt together a bit, but at one point we did have four of them in four different stands. Um they passed on some smaller bucks. They were happy to see that though, because they said, you know, they they wanted to try to get something bigger, which there was bigger there. I had pictures of lots of bigger deer, but just that week, the first week of deer season, it's here, it's slow. They're just not they're not moving. Um but yeah, they saw, I mean, at one point Jacob and Marissa left barely 10 yards from them because they sent me a video, they had like six does, right? Like hardly ten yards from them. I put everyone in a ground blind too, because one, if the weather's shit, which it was again later in the week, you're dry. And two, I find that it holds the scent way better, right? Like you you hear people in a tree stand, just open tree stand getting winded. You don't hear people getting winded really in in a gram blind at all. So, like, well, the does are ten yards from them, six of them. And uh, no, everyone saw deer, and everyone, you know, they saw some smaller bucks and all that, but the big boys, they just they weren't moving. Um, so then then that that night, the next night, we went out coon hunting, and uh, so some of them had done it before when they were with me before Brad and his son-in-law Jacob, and then um they'd done it with me the year before, but that year his son couldn't come by, and his daughter Marissa, so then this year everyone was there so they could all do the coon hunting. We had fun, we had a good time again. I had friends Denver Lane come out, and uh basically it was just a social thing because it was just seven of us there, and everyone's showing deer pictures and talking about hunting and all that, which was fun, and then we still got a few big fat coons and everything. So um, yeah, that was a good time. Then we had a really great time hanging out at the camp and all that, and then um Brad's youngest son was coming out for an evening, Phoenix, and Caleb at one of your stands. They had set up he had nice he had a nice drop time buck coming in. Yeah, and remember Brad missed him one night, but when did he come in?

SPEAKER_03:

Uh he was just there like 10 minutes after he walked in. Yeah. Yeah, he just saw it.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, because Caleb, yeah, we had a real had really nice one of the stands. We had one of her hunters in Brad, uh just a unique, what, eight-point drop time? Yeah, yeah. And uh that was out in the middle of nowhere. So um, yeah, so Brad was gonna try to get him. Yeah, he came out, yeah, what was it 10, 15 minutes?

SPEAKER_03:

Yeah, only 10 minutes after you're gonna be.

SPEAKER_00:

He was 10 minutes after you left. Um, and he was there's a bear hanging around a bit there too. So Brad's youngest son, Phoenix, came out and he only can come out for one night and one night only. He's 12 years old, and I was like, he's like, you know, do you do you mind if he shoots the bear if it comes home? Like, no, I'd by all means shoot the bear. So I'm hoping, you know, hunting is seeing that bear, he's been in and out here and there. Yeah, I mean, one night you can see the headlights of the vehicle coming out and the bear was just coming in and stuff, and I was like, man, you know how it is though, hunting. The one night I really want that bear to show up for Phoenix to get him, he's not gonna come. But you gotta think positive. And I did. I was like, you know what, this is gonna be it. So um, yeah, they had the 6.5 need more, creed more, and um actually it's a really nice gun. It was a CZ uh Argo, I think it's called. Really nice gun. It's got like a pistol grip on it and everything, like just nice, smooth operating gun. Great for a youth hunter, 12 years old. The bear came out and Phoenix just nailed him, and Caleb got it on camera.

SPEAKER_03:

Yeah, he dumped it. I could see it right on him.

SPEAKER_00:

Caleb got it on camera. So it's the bear, he shot, and he he, you know, waited for the shot and everything for the right shot. He shot, just down the bear went. I think he double-lunged him.

SPEAKER_03:

Okay.

SPEAKER_00:

But um Caleb got the picture too on on the camera, like the bear just laid out, and then apparently, I never got that picture, the bear got up and took off.

SPEAKER_02:

Yep.

SPEAKER_00:

So they called me, and I was gonna come out and help them, but I was a little ways from the camp and I had the other three hunters out. I was hanging around their area in case they got a deer that night, right? And I was like, all right, well, just wait half an hour. I said, and then um you guys can go for a walk in there. I said, from the looks of the shot, I really don't think he went far at all. And I said they did, they did, they waited half an hour and they went in. I think the bear is 20 yards away, just dead. Yeah, so it that was really exciting. Phoenix got his, yeah, 12 years old, got his first big game animal. It was very cool. Yeah, so we were quite excited for that. Went out to the camp, had a great camp night that night. Um, then did some more deer hunting, and yeah, it just said small bucks, uh, lots of does, and the big boys that week were quiet, and then one of the target deer had this nice tall tied eight-point where the uh tines almost met in the middle, like the deer that you shot, Ryan. And uh I wanted one of them to get him. They're in my my personal food plot and everything. And uh the night they left, the day they left, they left on a Sunday, that evening, the buck came right through the food plot. I sent them the picture, they're like, Oh, no way. I'm like, oh that's that's hunting. Uh, but it was a lot of fun. They're already making plans to be down again next year, and Caleb and I will gladly host them again. It was a busy week. It was a lot of fun.

SPEAKER_03:

Yeah, there was a lot of hunting that week.

SPEAKER_00:

It was a lot of hunting and it and uh just yeah, good jokes and camaraderie, and and uh the group coming down, Brad, Jacob, Marissa, and Bryden, they um they've become friends with my friends that just happened to pop out of the woodwork around here and everything. Uh, but it's great, you know. That's just a nice thing about the small town and community, and I know a lot of people, and uh it's it's nice. Yeah, it's really nice having that. So that was uh our guiding week, Caleb. So Caleb and I are working on some stuff. Um we're working on getting that camp a little more, and uh if we do, there will be a lot more hunts offered, doing some spring bear and stuff like that. That's some there's some plans in the works for later in the future. And if so, those listen to this, we'll uh we'll definitely give a discount for any listeners of Hunts and Outfitting Podcast. And uh love to love to go hunting with some people that listen on here from all over.

SPEAKER_03:

You'll be the first to hear.

SPEAKER_00:

You guys will be, yeah. Yeah, you guys be the first to hear. So there's some things in the works. This takes a little time, but um working on that. But yeah, we'd love to have some people come out and do some bear hunting with us and deer and duck and pheasant and rabbit and oh shit. I forgot to say that too. We did go out rabbit hunting as well. I forgot we did a lot, a lot of hunting. So, so uh so two of them ones go deer hunting again one morning, and then the other two, you know, Marissa, she'd never gone rabbit hunting with the beagles before. Like, I'm not a rabbit hunter before, but the beagles, it's just watching those dogs work and all that. That's that's that's part that's the whole that's the whole point of it to me.

SPEAKER_01:

Right hearing the dogs work the rabbits to the woods, yeah, it's crazy. It's crazy.

SPEAKER_03:

Yeah, the anticipation of the deer of the rabbit being right in front somewhere.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, because you got your first rabbit this year, Cam. Like the anticipation, like you said, for waiting for like a three-pound snowshoe hair. Yeah, swear a moose is coming.

SPEAKER_03:

Just to hop by quietly.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah. Yeah, you know, it's a lot of fun.

SPEAKER_01:

The rush is like listening to a deer come through the woods with excitement. It really is. It's a similar rush.

SPEAKER_00:

And then you can do it again. Um, yeah, I can't believe I almost forgot about the rabbit hunt. So uh so Marissa hadn't tried it before, so I was like, all right, so we'll go out with the beagles and we're hunting snowshoe hair, and the snowshoe hair, man, they can run. Uh so the dogs, the boys were doing really, really good. And um finally the rabbit, we got in the woods there, and I was like, man, we're close. I could tell we were close. And then I was like, I think the rabbit turned. So it turned, and then I was like, just no one move. I said, because it hasn't gone far. And then sure enough, it comes hopping right straight towards us. And I'm I was like, shoot, shoot, shoot. And Jacob, I'm not making fun of your shooting. You're you're a good shooter, and but you missed a little bit. Um, because a lot of things I've done it before with the rabbit, you don't realize they're as close as they are sometimes. And they're fast, and they're fast, so you're shooting over them. So it but it was literally hopping straight towards us. We're down on like our knees, like waiting for it. So he's like, bang, bang, bang. And then he's like, he's reloading one in there, and then Marissa sees it. I'm like, shoot, shoot! And then she winged it, she did wing it, and then bang, Jake Jacob gets a fourth round off, and she got it. But anyways, it uh the boys came out and they're all happy and stuff, the Beagles, Fred and Gringo, and uh, yeah, no, it was a lot of fun. And then never wanted to go deer hunting again that evening, so I took them all out deer hunting, set them up, and then I ran uh Buffy, Fred, and Gringo. Again, just the three of them after, just to exercise them. But uh yes, we did the rabbit hunting as well. So it was fun. It was a really good full week and uh it was a good time. Definitely, definitely be doing it again. And it's it's it helps a lot having like I mean this group here, they were just like up for anything, like let's do it, good attitudes, and just you know, fun to be around. Yeah, that makes a big difference. And they they're really safe too with their guns and all that, because you know, you hear these stories about people singing and talking and just waving it around, no safety on, and just you never know. So um, it was a good time. Caleb, anything to add?

SPEAKER_03:

Not a thing. I think you covered it pretty well now that you got the rabbit story covered.

SPEAKER_00:

I can't believe I almost forgot that. That's what started this whole thing. That's what started Hunts and Opening was the uh the snowshoe hair hunts with beagles. So um, yeah, but those of you listening from all over the world, like I said, you'll hear it here on here first when uh we do end up getting some more guiding going and all that. Uh yeah. Give a good discount to listeners. And then I've still got I got quite a few more rabbit hunts booked for this year. And uh yeah, yeah, turkey hunts. Kyle, you were part of the uh first hunts and outfitting turkey guided turkey hunt, and that was a success, you know, a learning curve, a success. That was a lot of fun. I know I was like, come on, Kyle, let's get up this hill. You're like, well, why can't we just set up down here? And I was like, No, we can see better up here. I can hear you cursing me going up, like you son of a bitch. But it worked quite well, didn't it? The turkeys came in perfect. So uh that story is uh yeah, that was a few episodes ago. So thanks for coming out, boys.

SPEAKER_01:

Thanks. Thanks for having me.