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From Prairie Skies To Plate: Hunting, Habits, And Flavor Of Sandhill Cranes

Kenneth Marr Season 2 Episode 94

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The prairie doesn’t whisper when cranes are around—it rings. That rolling trumpet carries over wheat and barley, and suddenly you’re staring at a bird that looks prehistoric and eats like steak. We sat down with Manitoba guide Tyson to unpack the truth about sandhill cranes: how to find them, how to hunt them, and why they’ve earned the “ribeye of the sky” reputation.

We start with what actually moves the needle. Decoys matter, but not as much as location. Cranes return to the exact field—and often the exact spot—they fed the day before, which makes precision scouting the difference between a couple pass shots and a morning of clean finishes. Tyson explains how he sets five dozen full-body crane decoys, disappears into the stubble, and times the flight along predictable fence lines. We also tackle calling rumors. Despite the cranes’ loud, complex vocalizations, calling rarely flips a hunt off the X. Their vision is unforgiving, their habits are stubborn, and pressure can push them out of a region fast.

From there, we get into behavior, biology, and ethics. Cranes are wading birds with specific roost needs, anti-social on feed, and feisty enough to claw, stab, and wreck a careless retrieve. We talk safe dispatch, dog goggles, and choosing loads that balance lethality with ethical range. Tyson shares why Manitoba is a sleeper hotspot, how he manages fields to keep patterns intact for clients, and why current bag limits feel high given low colt survival. Expect clear tips on scouting, concealment, shot selection, and pressure management that translate to better hunts and healthier local patterns.

Finally, the plate. Trim the silver skin, brush with sesame oil, hit with Montreal steak spice, and grill hot to medium rare—simple moves that turn first-time tasters into believers. We trade notes on goose jerky, sausage, and pastrami too, plus storage tricks that keep meat perfect for seasons. If you’re crane-curious, refining your spread, or planning a Manitoba trip, this conversation will sharpen your strategy and your recipes. Enjoy the show, then subscribe, share with a hunting buddy, and leave a quick review to help others find us.

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SPEAKER_01:

Uh we are well I guide around Shoal Lake, Manitoba.

SPEAKER_03:

Okay, yeah.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03:

So you guys, so you're you're definitely an avid waterfowler.

SPEAKER_01:

Yes, I am for sure. I've been doing it not a crazy long time. I've been guiding for twelve years, but I've been hunting waterfowl for about 20-ish.

SPEAKER_03:

Yep.

unknown:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03:

See it also Manitoba. I mean, everyone thinks at West, you're thinking Alberta, Saskatchewan for all the big flocks and everything, but uh do you find Manitoba maybe doesn't get enough recognition that it is really great waterfowl hunting?

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, it's it's pretty decent. It um, you know, I would say one of the main things that we have over other places would be the the lesser Canadas. We got pretty good concentrations of the little fellas, you know, but uh overall, yeah, it's it's pretty pretty good, you know.

SPEAKER_03:

Yeah. Um so I'm excited to talk about uh something I don't I do a bit of waterfowl hunting here, New Brunswick and it's you know it can be pretty good. Um not super consistent, but something that I've seen for the first time with my own eyes this year in the field. There's only a group of like two or three uh sand tail cranes. Oh yeah. And um it was neat. They uh they have a very unique sound to them.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, they got uh quite a diverse dialogue of like different sounds they make. They're pretty loud and pretty unique sounds.

SPEAKER_03:

Yeah, yeah, it's cool. I mean I've never seen them before, but I I didn't know they existed in New Brunswick, but apparently they're uh they're moving around. But you know, even people that don't seem to know anything or or much at all about cranes, it seems like the general consensus is everyone knows that they are considered the the ribeye of this guy and that their meat does compare to cuts of beef. Would you find that true?

SPEAKER_01:

Oh yeah, for sure. Like uh the texture of the meat is definitely similar to beef. Probably like a tenderlin almost, I find. Wow. Yeah. Super good.

SPEAKER_03:

Yeah, that's pretty cool. Um, so I mean, tell me about like how have you always hunted the cranes along with ducks and geese, or was this something newer that you got into?

SPEAKER_01:

Um, well, when I first started hunting, I did shoot a few uh just over Canada decoys by accident. They just kind of floated over top and we're like dropped them and we're like, whoa, neat.

unknown:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01:

Hopefully we're allowed to kill these actually. And then yeah, looked in the rags, oh yeah, yeah, for sure. And then uh yeah, didn't really know what we had shot, you know, as far as like how sought after they are, but uh then I started guiding and then kinda got put in that senior guide position or as far as like expert guide for taking guys out for cranes. It takes a little bit more skills to to uh be uh consistent and do well on them.

SPEAKER_02:

Yep.

SPEAKER_03:

Yeah. So well what what are I mean what I how do you go about hunting them? I mean, is it similar to the ducks and the geese spreading out decoys? Do you buy or get many decoys for geese or for uh the crane? Can you call them? I mean, can you walk us through kind of how that does the typical setup works for them?

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, we we run decoys um about five dozen uh full body deception crane decoys is what we use. Um they do decoy, uh but what I find is the best is like when you're scouting, um see well, obviously see where they were, but m really make sure you set up where they were versus like geese and ducks you can maybe pull a little bit with a call or whatever, whereas cranes, I feel like they're almost like pre-programmed before they even like when they lift off the roost, they're gonna go and land in that exact spot they were the day before. Like, it's like they have a GPS locator. So, like, oh we were eating, we were eating over here yesterday, you know. And so if you you get super hid and get exactly where they were, you'll get some good working decoying cranes, and then you'll get the odd passer-by or you know, that you'll get a passing shot um as well, but mostly you'll get the about four or five flocks that'll actually do it well, and then the rest is just chaos in the morning. They'll just be like going to where they were in the field, just landing here and there and everywhere, you know. So, and I can call fairly well, but I would have to say that I don't I haven't seen where calling can really change, like make or break the hunt, you know. Uh, I really would like to learn the dialect and in the future maybe come up with a call that that actually will pull them in, you know. I uh lots of people say they can call them in. I kind of would argue that if you're gonna dispute that fact or like prove that fact, go hunt not the X and see if you can call those cranes in or not. Because I feel like whether you're calling at them or not, they're gonna come to that spot because that's where they were the day before, you know. So uh yeah, but I would love to learn more about their like vocalization. I think it'd be sweet because they are very vocal and definitely the calling that they make make like they're they're saying something sweet, you know, like as far as like once you start shooting into those groups and pushing them off the the feed and they go and start their own feed somewhere else, like a half mile, they just pull everything, like and you can hear them for like a mile or half mile, and they just are trumpeting and making all kinds of crazy sounds, and and that I'm that's what I've found that I think they just they can hear those ones way over there, and then they totally change the directions that they were the day before and home in on those other other cranes, but yeah, it's a tricky bird to hunt as far as like they have super good eyesight.

SPEAKER_03:

Okay, I was gonna ask.

SPEAKER_01:

And uh yeah, and then yeah, just super like they've been called fence post birds. They like if yeah, sometimes that's one of the better ways to hunt them if you can find the flight path that they fly over, and then if you if you don't mind just pass shooting stuff, you can yeah, they just they fly over the same same spot every day. Like if you can pattern them, yeah. That's one sweet thing about them, is they're pretty patternable as far as like yeah, they do the same thing every day. As long as they're not interrupted or somebody buggers them up, they'll come off the roost and they'll go to that field as long as there's food there for yeah, as long as them.

SPEAKER_03:

Yeah, no, it's interesting because I yeah, come to think of it, the field that I I have seen them in in New Brunswick here, it's always the same one. And I remember how we came across and we could hear this these weird noises and going, and then you know, we're like looking out in the field and we're we're like, holy, there's sandhill cranes there. Yeah, just unique.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah. And they usually move, well, lots of times in threes. That's a family.

SPEAKER_03:

Yep, there's three, yeah.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah. And they don't really like each other, so it's kind of hard to to decoy them sometimes because they're kind of anti-social birds. Like you'll see them in the fields, they'll be jumping around and kicking at each other, and like if there's like where they were in the field, there'll be feathers everywhere, like they pull each other's tail feathers out and stuff like that. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03:

Well, so I've heard that they do uh they do a bit of a dance. They're quite the dancers I've heard.

SPEAKER_01:

Dance around, yeah, jump around and crane kick and all that.

SPEAKER_03:

Really? Huh. Yeah, that's that's neat. Um, so do they like what do they eat and do they swim? Like, are they aquatic birds like ducks and geese out on the water or not so much?

SPEAKER_01:

No, they're not actually waterfowl. They're they're technically a wading bird. Right. Um they eat grain mostly, uh as far as I've seen out in the fields. I think they will eat like frogs and stuff like that. And there are lots of times they're in pastures and uh eating, I think like grasshoppers and things like that. But mostly when we hunt them, they're they're uh going to either like barley or wheat. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03:

Oh, okay. And uh June bugs, I heard they eat June bugs as well.

SPEAKER_01:

Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_03:

Yeah, that would make sense. Yeah, so I'm sure some people would like them for that, I guess. But um uh so hunting them, do you find that a lot of residents take advantage of being able to hunt them or are not really? It's more non-residents that like to come out and uh and go after them.

SPEAKER_01:

Um it's getting more popular, I feel like, with the residents, as far as the ones that have shot them and ate them and are like, oh wow, these are good.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01:

Kind of thing. But uh yeah, no, I think it's about a 50-50 mix almost. There's not a ton of guys do it. Either like from out of like country. Yeah, there's a few. It's starting to get tougher and tougher. Like this guy's moving into my areas where I usually hunt and they don't take pressure well. Like you can only hunt them so many times and then they bugger off. So blow out of the area. So you kind of have to manage manage them on the guiding side or whatever. You know, you can't hammer them too hard, but yeah, and they only roost in certain areas because of they need a special roost, right? They can only they just stand in like knee-deep water, pretty much, as far as I know. And then yeah, the fields in relation to those roosts is always where they are. Oh, okay. Yep. Um and historically they're always in the same fields. So that's easy. So once you mark predictable, once you mark them on your your uh map or whatever, you always just go back to those fields every year, depending on crop rotation. But uh yeah, and they'll consistently be always there. So and then there'll be fields that you're like, oh, that looks like a good field. Never there. They're always in the same field.

SPEAKER_03:

Yeah, so is the population like is it quite large? You said they don't they don't like to travel in big flocks really, though.

SPEAKER_01:

Well, sometimes they do. Yeah, okay. There are some big wads, like most fields that I'll uh go to hunt. I like to look for at least a thousand to to fifth like thousand fifteen hundred to two thousand birds on a field. Oh wow. To be to be cons like have enough numbers to actually like limit out. Because it'll like I said, you'll get four or five flocks that actually will do it in where you're set up, and then you'll get the odd straggler, and you may like I have called in the odd like pear or something like that. That's the only time I've ever really noticed that I've called and that actually they it triggered them to turn back and come come in. I don't know if like down south on their migration if they're more receptive to calling, because yeah, everybody down south seems to think that they can call them in with their calls and whatever, but I haven't really noticed it to make a big difference up here.

SPEAKER_03:

Okay, yeah. Um, so do you guys use a dog for them? And I've seen I've seen uh some pictures and stuff of you know different people's dogs, I guess, that do use them, where they put uh the eyeglasses over the the goggles on the dog.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, those wreck specs. Uh I don't have a dog. I'm the dog, but my buddy uh he he runs the dog and uh he he does pretty good. Uh this year he actually did get kind of attacked by a cripple. Um even though he has the goggles, they still take their beak and they'll try and ram it like in the dog's head, like at the base of the skull or whatever, and try and poke poke the brain, I think. Yeah, they're pretty wild. I've been I've been uh clawed up quite a few times by them. I have some scars on my wrists, yeah. They'll uh you'll go to grab their head, yeah, and then they'll stick their feet out and they'll grab you with their talons and they'll get you. And then whatever well, I don't know what's on well, they're dirty, obviously, but they're like any wound from them, it gets infected real fast. I had my wrist got all grovy, but I cleaned it up. My the guy I guided for, he kicked one one time, and uh the beak went right through his boot and then stabbed his big toe, and then his big toe got all infected and gross and the beak went through the boot, so they're they're pretty sharp.

SPEAKER_03:

It's it's pretty sharp, yeah. Wow. Really sharp they're a bit dangerous.

SPEAKER_01:

Like yeah, I think for next year I'm gonna take uh uh something to dispatch them. You know, I used to carry a hockey stick and whack them in the head, but yeah, I uh haven't for years. I've just been doing the old judo kick to the side of the head, but you gotta watch because yeah, they can s if they whip their head sideways when you're trying to kick them in the side of the head, they'll get you with that pointy.

SPEAKER_03:

Yeah, I didn't know they were like that.

SPEAKER_01:

I'll send you a I got a couple videos from this fall guys that film me going after them. I'll send send you away. They're they'll like they lay on their back and they they hiss at you and yeah, got their feet out and legs out.

SPEAKER_03:

So they they wouldn't have much for uh predators then besides people, like nothing else is really gonna want to you know take them for meal.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah. No, like I watched uh coyotes well one time we were scouting and this coyote was like trying to sneak up on this like three-pack. Yeah, and I don't know, they yeah, it got close, and then I seen them like kind of get all agitated and whatever, and then that coyote just took off, so they must have were hissing at him and giving them a hard time. But yeah, I don't I don't think there's many things to go after them other than us.

SPEAKER_03:

Yeah, it doesn't doesn't sound like an easy meal at all.

SPEAKER_01:

I think they're like the oldest living bird prehistoric.

SPEAKER_03:

Yeah, well yeah, they're something like something out of Jurassic Park almost.

SPEAKER_01:

Um yeah, not that they sound like pterodactyls.

SPEAKER_03:

They do get exactly it. Yeah, I wasn't gonna try to imitate it. I didn't think I'd be able to do that well, but they they do. They they sound like some yeah, a dinosaur, really. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah. Yeah. They kind of look like one.

SPEAKER_03:

Yeah, they do. Um, so how like how heavy are they, would you say? What's the average weight of one?

SPEAKER_01:

Uh probably twelve, thirteen pounds.

SPEAKER_03:

Okay, yeah. Um, and then they're quite how tall do you think too? Like somebody that's never seen one before.

SPEAKER_01:

I think they stand uh over three feet.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah. I can't remember the exact their wingspan's pretty big. It's like over four feet, I think, but yeah, I'm not a not a big big enough scientist or a whatever biologist. But uh I've been around a few. There's greaters and lessers of cranes.

SPEAKER_03:

Yeah. Okay, there is. Yeah. Huh. So we get both. There's there's two different sizes. Just like with the canned geese, there is two different sizes of the ge of the cranes as well. Yeah. That's interesting. I didn't know that. So what I mean, what is is it just like a a sub species or yeah, I'm not sure what causes them to be smaller, but they're yeah, they're just they're not not quite half the size, not like a cat like a giant and a a lesser, you know, but they're noticeably smaller.

SPEAKER_01:

Like their heads are quite a bit smaller. Well, and they're everything, yeah. They're definitely smaller. We get more of those, I would say, than we do the real big greater cranes. But one time we got like a super tiny one. And uh I've showed it to lots of people like uh as far as like that hunt cranes down south or like our biologists and they nobody has ever seen one like it. It's like a pygmy crane or something almost, just so tiny. I'll send you a picture of it too. Yeah, yeah, I don't know. It was it's it's full grown. Like it's got the the full plumage or whatever, it's got the red forehead and everything, but it's like like would be like a cackler, a cackler crane. Yeah, yeah. It's tiny.

SPEAKER_03:

That small, yeah. Yeah. It's neat. So I mean neat. What do you guys use? Like, are you using duck loads or using goose loads? Like what uh what size sh shells are you guys using for the cranes?

SPEAKER_01:

Uh well, if you get them in, like if you if they decoy, you don't need crazy loads as far as like number twos for lots, three inch, but uh lots of times they don't give you that great opportunity, so then guys are running. So I had a couple guys from Alberta, they were running like not buckshot, but like T shot or whatever, and andor like uh not bus well, some run Bismuth, but was that tungsten and all kinds of things, but really uh they're not that like some people will argue that they're they're hard to kill, but they're they're not. They got their feathers are super thin compared to like a Canada. You know, they don't have the density to them. Right. So and they got huge wings like to hit, you know, and break.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01:

But uh they just don't give you close shots lots of times. They just they'll hang out fifty yards, you know, or skirt you at fifty kind of thing, or they'll come over top of you high, or they'll yeah, kind of come at you and then like pick up and then you gotta take a tall shot sometimes, if you wanna call those shots, but most of the time I don't like to because I don't really like crippling trains and stuff.

SPEAKER_03:

Oh, sounds dangerous.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah. And it's just a waste.

SPEAKER_03:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01:

Right? Yeah.

SPEAKER_03:

Other than I guess a coyote gets to eat 'em, but I guess there's nothing really wasted in nature, but Yeah, so you've been guiding for uh for a while now. How d how did you kind of get into that?

SPEAKER_01:

Um I'd been hunting for a little bit and were pretty successful. So then uh a buddy of mine that I uh did a logo design for, he he guided at Birdtail and uh kind of got me the job. Or he asked me if I was interested in in guiding and I was like, I don't know. Guess I could give her a try and yeah, kinda the rest is history. Yeah, I've been doing it for 12 years now for birdtail waterfowl.

SPEAKER_03:

Uh what is bird tail waterfowl? Yeah. Okay, yeah, and out of Manitoba. Yeah, so you guys uh you said what what was how many clients did you guys have this year? You said it's a really busy year.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, we usually put through about 230, 240-ish, I guess, a season.

SPEAKER_03:

Yeah, yeah, that's that's a lot of guys. Uh are they mainly uh from we're like United States and stuff, or Europe any, or are they Canadians?

SPEAKER_01:

Uh we have uh both uh we run uh two groups, two groups of Canadians, and then the rest usually is American uh for the rest of the season. Yeah, well I did have some guys from Europe one year. Okay, yeah. Or from Germany, they were from uh uh hunting magazine.

SPEAKER_03:

Oh, that's neat, yeah. Um when when you have these guys come out, I mean uh is it is the crane mainly sought after, or I'm guessing like are some of these waterfowl packages ducks, geese, and crane, or how's that work?

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, if you specify or ask for it, um some guys want to do it, some guys could care less. Most guys kind of want to at least try it once. It's not as like it you can be successful, but there is like definitely not every hunter you're gonna limit out. So some guys don't care, they just wanna experience the sound and see them and kill a few. And like I always say, if you get over double digits on cranes, you're doing good, you know.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01:

Um, even if you kill five, you know, sometimes they just don't don't work, but um but lots of guys are after the limits, so they they'd rather shoot more than just have the experience kind of thing.

SPEAKER_03:

But yeah, what what is the limit for them there in Manitoba?

SPEAKER_01:

Uh it's five, which it's far too liberal in my opinion, but Oh yeah. I think it should be three. Yeah. Just the way that they reproduce, they don't they only have they can have two colts a year, but usually just one survives, and the survival rate of that one is not that great, apparently. Really? Uh what what are they called? Colts? Colts, yeah. Um Yeah. Usually they can have twins or whatever, or two eggs, but usually the one kills the other one or something, supposedly. Oh yeah. They are vicious. Yeah. Fight for survival.

SPEAKER_03:

Um, so they they don't repr they're not like ducks and geese at all, or you know, any other kind of sort of waterfowl where they they can reproduce, you know, quite quickly and all that. Um they only said it's ju just usually one survives, and even that one's iffy.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, I forget what the mortality rate is. It's it's not very good. Like they don't survive every year very well, supposedly. That's what I've heard anyway.

SPEAKER_03:

So it takes it can it can't be.

SPEAKER_01:

And then those juvenile cranes are kinda they're the like easier to kill.

SPEAKER_03:

Oh, okay. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01:

And they kind of give away the other cranes in the morning, you know. Like lots of times they'll come in silent, and then that juvenile give them away. They they make like a whistle sound, almost like a you know, like a whistle with a ball. Yeah. Like a but uh more of a whistly sound, yeah. You'll hear that. Yeah, and you'll be like, oh, okay, guys, get ready, they're coming in. There they are on the deck.

SPEAKER_03:

You know. Is it quite surprising when you you have guys that you're guiding and then you know you you cook up a crane for them or something the first time they eat it, are they just are they quite surprised at how tasty they are?

SPEAKER_01:

Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_03:

Yeah. I I've never had it myself, but I've so I've heard.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah. Just don't overcook it. It's just like any wild game, but yeah. No, it's it's really good. I I like it about medium rare. Okay.

SPEAKER_03:

Yeah, and it's just like just like beef, oh that's interesting. So there is there like much of a wild, uh, gamey taste to them at all.

SPEAKER_01:

Not really. Some guys will soak them and stuff like that. I I don't. I just like you can just pull them out of the freezer. I trim the silver skin off, and then uh I'll rub them with a little bit of sesame oil, you know, like the Asian style. Oh, yeah, yeah. Sesame oil.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01:

Then just sprinkle uh Montreal steak spice on it, and then just cook it on the barbecue is the best. Lots of times I'll slice it thinner, like I'll slice it three times the breast.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01:

And just yeah, just hot and fast, just flip-flip kind of thing, and then yeah, just finger food. Or you can eat it like steak or whatever, but lots of times I do it for like appetizers at parties and stuff, and people are always like, Oh man, what is this? And like even people's wives will be like, Oh man, this is super good.

SPEAKER_03:

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I'm sure no one's really expecting it.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, or they think eating birds is kind of gross for whatever reason, but they eat chickens, like you know. Yeah, yeah, exactly. But for whatever reason, like wild birds, people are always like, ew. Yeah, and eat birds, it's like, well, yeah, yeah, it's good.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah, it's probably better.

SPEAKER_01:

Even geese, like if you put that sesame oil on geese, it actually helps for to cut any gamey flavor. And then uh geese like goose is just a little bit tougher, you know, yeah, it's more chewy.

SPEAKER_03:

It is, yeah, yeah, it definitely is. But uh little geese are pretty tasty. Yeah, we uh we like to make jerky out of uh the canned geese that we get normally.

SPEAKER_01:

Oh yeah. Yeah, I used to do that too. Lately I've just been taking it to the local butcher shop and getting sausage made.

SPEAKER_02:

Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_01:

Or uh that I've done goose pastrami. Yeah, like that Steven Renella like meat eater rep recipe one. It's pretty good.

SPEAKER_03:

Yeah, is it? Yeah, I've heard. Yeah, I have not tried that one yet.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, yeah, I would recommend it's pretty good. Like, and then you it can vacuum seal those breasts and keep them. I kept one for two years in the freezer and cracked it open, sliced it, and it was still good.

SPEAKER_03:

Oh, really? It kept that well for that long, yeah.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, yeah. As long as you vacuum seal it before you freeze yeast, I find. Otherwise, it kinda can taste bad.

SPEAKER_03:

Right. Yeah. Um, yeah, no, it's it's been interesting learning about them. I know uh just looking at time there, I know you've you've got a meeting to go to tonight, but um, yeah, thanks a lot, Tyson, for coming on and and and telling us, you know, about these these uh special birds of the sky.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah. No, no problem. Uh appreciate you reaching out.

SPEAKER_03:

Uh yeah, absolutely. Thanks again and um yeah, happy happy hunting. Uh yeah, thank you. You too. Thanks.

unknown:

Uh