How We Hunt, Call, Cook, And Laugh Through Waterfowl Season

A specklebelly mount that looks like it fought a dinosaur kicked off a duck camp conversation that turned into a "masterclass" on waterfowl. We swap real hunt stories from cornfields and windy marshes, pulling apart what actually works: scouting over guessing, honest spreads over clutter, and calling that persuades instead of screams. You’ll hear how we adapt when birds fly late, when nearby groups keep flocks in the air, and when an A-frame’s shadow ruins the show. We compare short reed goose calls to old-school flutes, talk about what makes a call break clean, and admit why some barrels force more air and more mistakes. If you’ve ever wondered why teal make good shooters miss or how to set a spread where birds truly want to land, this is your playbook.

We get practical on gear without turning it into a catalog. Layouts hide better than A-frames on sunny mornings unless you can tuck into hedgerows. Pumps and beat-up semis keep cycling if you carry a small can of oil after an unexpected dunk. Budget-friendly waders and boots can outperform price tags if you maintain them and accept they’re tools, not trophies. We also zoom out to access and etiquette—farmer relationships matter, leases are rare here, and a little respect goes a long way when fields are small and pressure runs high.

Food ties it together. Goose becomes gold with a long saltwater soak, thin slicing, and a marinade of soy, Worcestershire, liquid smoke, garlic, pepper, and a humble steak spice—then a low, steady smoke until it’s addictive jerky. Ducks shine two ways: quick butter sear in bite-sized pieces or scored, skin-on, crisped like a bistro plate. Teal are tiny and tender, wood ducks are oak-sweet, black ducks bring heft. Along the way, we trade stories about dogs, long retrieves, and the one-bird-left pressure that makes legends or punchlines.

If waterfowl is your season, you’ll find tactics you can use next weekend and laughs you’ll recognize from your own blind. Subscribe, share this with a hunting buddy, and drop a review to help more folks find the show. Got a name for our glorious goose mascot? Send it in—best pick gets a hat.

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Transcript

Welcome And Episode Setup

SPEAKER_04 0:11

This is Huntsun Outfitting Podcast. I'm your host and rookie guide, Ken Maer. I love everything hunting, the outdoors, and all things associated with it. From stories to how-to's, you'll find it here. Welcome to the podcast. Yes, absolutely welcome to the podcast, and thanks for lending me your ears to what will be another enjoyable podcast episode. This week, real raw talk conversation on waterfowl hunting, but look at it more like a recorded duck camp conversation. Uh we still keep it fairly PG. It's fun. We make fun of ourselves, others, and also discuss past hunting stories, mishaps, calls, guns, ammo, gear, and a surprise taxidermy appearance. Try not to take anything we say too seriously because we sure don't. So if you have if you were looking to learn about waterfowl hunting or even a great goose jerky recipe, or maybe you were driving and wanting to hear some people have an unfiltered conversation to pass the time, then stay tuned. And if you're looking at the podcast profile picture, there's a lot going on. It's a little busy looking, and I'd like to thank and give a shout out to the man that can make those pictures, podcast profile pictures happen when it's busy like that, because I certainly can't. So Brody Garnet, thanks. So on the left of it, on the podcast profile picture is a grizzly looking duck like thing. That is Ernie. And in the middle, well, that's a speckle belly goose. Just keep that in mind. It will come up again with an explanation later in the podcast on both of those. Also, uh, it's almost Christmas time. If you guys are looking for some Christmas gifts ideas, I mean it's pretty near near here, but you still have some time. The Canadian access to firearms for the Canadian listeners, uh, it's great. This magazine is in print, sent to your door. It's gonna tell you all the latest gear, it's gonna tell you gun shows going on, uh everything. It's gonna it's got deals on there, guns, prices, ammo, scopes, knives, you name it, it's in there. And uh it's all Canadian, so it's in Canadian dollars because America right now, your guys' dollars so much better than ours. So if you're on a website for us Canadians, you're like, wow, that's a good deal. You convert the dollar over, it's not so good of a deal, but in the Canadian access to firearms, at least that's in Canadian dollars. So without further ado, let's talk about uh waterfowl and uh some stories to go along with it. Oh, and if you were looking to get a hold of us to maybe come on the podcast or suggest somebody for it, or just reach out to me, you can email me, hunts on outfitting at gmail.com, or you can find us on Facebook, Hunts on Outfitting, or find myself on there, Ken Meyer. Feel free to reach out. Some of you guys have been, it's been great talking with you from all over. So, boys, thanks for coming out. We had a uh we had a good waterfowl season this year, and uh I just want to kind of recap on it, and I'd like to introduce you guys because you guys have been on the podcast lots before, but I'll do a quick recap. Sitting across from me, we've got Caleb, the red-headed carpenter here. Sitting across from him is the red-headed farmer, Ryan Wesalius. Next to him is his equipment salesman, Logan Elliott, and then your humble um but ever not knowing host, myself, Ken Mayer. Um before we get going though, uh sitting on this desk underneath the old dog blanket is a taxidermed speckle-bellied goose. Now, if you're not from New Brunswick, uh you would know that speckle-bellied geese are not overly common. And Logan shot one, you shot one, what, four years ago?

SPEAKER_02 4:01

Me and Ryan me and Ryan blasted one.

SPEAKER_04 4:04

Four years ago. And before we we do the unveiling, and I'm excited, this we're all seeing this for the first time. Um, I will say that the um the taxidermist that did do this, uh he he's really good at moose. Okay. He's really good at this. He's really good at moose, and his deer and bear good. And and we're gonna see um if maybe he should stick with waterfowl or not. Uh Logan, would you do the honors of lifting off the veil?

SPEAKER_00 4:37

Oh my god.

SPEAKER_02 4:41

Well, um still on the back of him.

SPEAKER_04 4:44

I think he taxed during the avian flu. Um yeah. Uh it's better. It's better than I would have done. Okay. It's it's uh Oh my god. Can you spin that around so I can see him? Yeah, it looks like um it looks like a disease. That was taxiderms.

SPEAKER_02 5:04

He does spin on the piece of wood nicely, though.

SPEAKER_04 5:06

Yeah, uh the wood looks good. Though that's a nice piece of wood that he's on that stand. That is a that's a nice piece of wood. Um he looks like if you touch him, he'd be going to the uh hospital with something that you like SARS or whatever. Do you have a picture logan of what he looked like the day we shot him?

SPEAKER_03 5:28

It looks uh closer to a dinosaur than it does a speckled billion.

SPEAKER_04 5:31

A pissed off dinosaur. Um the guy does good moose. Um it looks like an owl. Almost.

SPEAKER_03 5:48

I don't know what kind of owls you're looking at, but well, those are the ones that I hunt there.

SPEAKER_04 5:52

Um we shot that it had orange feet.

SPEAKER_03 5:55

Oh, really? Well, it had a brown now.

SPEAKER_01 6:00

The coat color used to be brown.

SPEAKER_03 6:03

And it was the only one in the flock, or it's the only one I've ever seen.

SPEAKER_01 6:07

It came in with a flock of Canadians, like we so we were calling from an A-frame.

SPEAKER_02 6:12

And uh We saw it the week before, though.

SPEAKER_01 6:14

We did see it, yeah. We saw it the weekend before when we were hunting, and then the next weekend we were hunting at the same property. Oh, cool. And a flock of Canadians were coming in on the right, and me and Logan were sitting beside each other, and all of a sudden on the left, we seen this different bird, and you like You heard it. It made a different noise, too. Like it doesn't honk like a Canada goose.

SPEAKER_04 6:31

It's a weird could you uh imitate it, please?

SPEAKER_01 6:33

I can't even remember what it's four years ago. I don't even remember the sound.

SPEAKER_04 6:36

It's basically like it's like it's I haven't seen one since the tax deer and we don't even remember what it looks like. Sounds like when Caleb slams his thing in the toilet seat.

SPEAKER_02 6:48

Happens all the time. Um, either way, like we we heard it the first week, and we me and Ryan just looked at each other and looked up like where is it? And it wanted in. And it was just a matter he he wanted in, but the rest of the flock didn't, so they end up taking they didn't come in that day, and then the next week the other geese were real fire and he came in real close, and me and Ryan called right away. It popped up and we both hammered him right at the same time and just slapped him down.

SPEAKER_04 7:11

I mean, I uh maybe I should have looked this up before, but uh how I know we're southeastern New Brunswick, would you say, right?

SPEAKER_01 7:18

Yeah, they're not I've never seen one. They're not popular either. We would be on the Atlantic flyway. Atlantic Flyway.

SPEAKER_02 7:23

Yeah, you've you shot one when we were young too.

SPEAKER_01 7:27

Uh so this one here was shot four years ago, and probably like eight years prior to that, we'd shot uh like a mature one. This is more of a juvenile one. We shot a mature one probably eight years prior to that. That's the only ever two friggin'. And it was the same thing where it come in kind of on the side with with uh Canada geese.

SPEAKER_04 7:48

Yeah, we've same as snow geese here. They're we see a flock.

Rare Speck Sightings And The Hunt

SPEAKER_02 7:51

We almost see a flock every year of that, though. Like this we've actually only ever seen. I mean, there could be some in flocks, they just don't stick out like snows. But we've only ever seen or I've never seen one seeing two ever.

SPEAKER_04 8:04

Yeah. So and here he is. And now now you've got a uh great conversation piece.

SPEAKER_02 8:10

It's staying here.

SPEAKER_04 8:11

Okay, perfect. That is the that is the podcast mascot.

SPEAKER_02 8:15

That is the golden goose.

SPEAKER_03 8:17

He's almost got like a tripod stance going on.

SPEAKER_04 8:20

He his legs look infected.

SPEAKER_03 8:23

Maybe maybe that'll be his name is tripod.

SPEAKER_04 8:26

He uh if you look at him face on, he looks freaking mean. Because it looks like he just beat COVID for the tenth time or something. And he's he's a warrior. Oh, look, you can see some springs sticking out of him there. He's like go go gadget goose.

SPEAKER_02 8:42

There's one coming right up his butt, too, if he's spinning around again.

SPEAKER_04 8:45

Right here.

SPEAKER_02 8:46

Keep going. Keep going. See the big one? Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_03 8:50

They are pretty when they're like mature, eh?

SPEAKER_04 8:52

Or taxaderned, right?

SPEAKER_03 8:54

But not when they're yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 8:56

He uh what would you call him? Ernie?

SPEAKER_00 9:02

I like Ernie.

SPEAKER_04 9:04

Yeah, he's our Ernie. Er Ernie the fucked up looking chicken duck. UG. Turkey vulture looking. I like it.

SPEAKER_02 9:14

Let's just call him the golden goose.

SPEAKER_04 9:15

He's kind of like us. We're a bit fucked up and flustered looking, but we're still standing. I really hope. That's the look he has. Their eyes are really in their head. Is that the tax there, or is that just how they are? Like on this side here, it is like sunk in.

SPEAKER_03 9:38

Yeah.

Naming The “Golden Goose”

SPEAKER_04 9:38

Well, that's so they don't get hit by hail when they're flying. Maybe. Um, okay, yeah, that was interesting. So um so this year we had a really good uh waterfowl year as usual. Our friend Dalton, who uh couldn't be here tonight, um he got a dog this year, so that was interesting. Uh interesting because the dog knew more than him, so that was that was interesting to watch. Uh no, it was good. The dog was was quite an asset because he bought a fully trained uh chocolate lab. And uh yeah, the dog was well was great for, you know, we were hunting a little the first hunt I did this year was with him, and we were hunting with our friend Jacob Armstrong, who's been on the podcast a few times, and we were hunting this marsh and like shooting the you know the ducks and all that out on the water in the marsh there is great. Uh the first two ducks of the year I got were wood ducks, which is what I wanted to get. I hadn't shot a wood duck before, so went out there, got some. And uh thanks. Yep. And uh I think I could taxiderm it myself just to the bar set. Um and uh Dalton's dog swam out there and got it, so that was handy because it saved us from swimming out there and getting it. No, I just had the canoe. Well, I had the canoe because we set the decoys out of the canoe, and I'm like going around in circles trying to get the things, and the wind was picking up and they're bumping into me. But um, yeah, so was able to get that. And then the key goose hunting this year, boys, was good. We got uh Caleb, you were part of it too. We got a six-man limit and six-man limit, five-man limit, four five. But it didn't take long. Wow. We had a lot of good weekend hunts. A lot, a lot of good weekend hunts. Some good calling. Um somebody that's couldn't make it tonight was calling, and Caleb, you were calling next to him, and Ryan's cousin made the comment of one of you sounded like a kazoo, and it's not the person sitting across me in this room. Uh but the calling, I mean, I'm on I practice my turkey calls and stuff, but uh I can do a little bit of a duck call, the goose call. I can't I can't get that really. I can't do the feeding chuckle. Well, I don't I haven't practiced much with the duck calls, but this year I plan to. Uh I'm gonna practice some more in the offseason. But Caleb, you're you're what are you running for? You said Ron, you really liked his uh duck call.

SPEAKER_01 11:45

Yeah, it's really nice.

SPEAKER_04 11:46

Well, do you have Caleb? I didn't really looked at it. Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_03 11:52

I don't use the duck call a lot because I'm used to hunting northern New Brunswick and there's not much for ducks up there.

SPEAKER_04 11:57

Oh, is yours an Echo? Or a zinc?

SPEAKER_03 11:59

I couldn't tell you. It's in the truck.

SPEAKER_04 12:01

We'll look after. Yeah. There's no like brand on the side.

SPEAKER_03 12:06

I think there is, but I I couldn't tell you without looking at that one.

SPEAKER_04 12:09

My lips are on it.

New Dog, Marsh Hunts, And Wood Ducks

SPEAKER_03 12:10

Hey, it's not as good as the old power clocker, so.

SPEAKER_04 12:13

What are you running, Logan?

SPEAKER_03 12:14

I got a valley calls.

SPEAKER_04 12:15

Because your goose calls it. Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_02 12:17

Yeah, I got a valley calls double re duck call. My goose call is uh my goose calls Tim Grounds.

SPEAKER_04 12:23

But I find like when we're Valley Calls in Nova Scotia.

SPEAKER_02 12:26

Valley calls, Nova Scotia, yeah. And then Tim Grounds, championship calls. Okay, yeah. That's I do really like that call.

SPEAKER_04 12:34

Because when we're hunting ducks, though, in the areas that we do, if we're hunting ponds and stuff, we don't normally have to do much at all for calling or decoying or anything.

SPEAKER_02 12:41

If they're coming in, they're coming in. Half the time they're in the decoys too and we're just like, oh. But we were yapping.

SPEAKER_04 12:46

But with uh with the geese, you guys do have to do some calling, so it's fun.

SPEAKER_01 12:50

Even shooting uh ducks over like cornfields and stuff like that, you gotta work them a lot harder. Yeah, than on the water. On water, they're a little easier. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 12:59

Um, because uh no, we had we had some good good shooting. And so when we'd shoot, Logan, you didn't get out of your blind, but that's fine because you're a caller. So you Logan's a caller. So like you said, you don't want to be rushing back to the blind after we shoot and like, huh, you know, like that. Um I'm uh you know, uh borough one of Ryan's blinds and stuff, and we got all you guys had all the decoys. So I was like, you know, I'm I'm gonna be a runner. I'm gonna put myself out there. That's how I'm valuable to the group. Caleb, you were calling it. Caleb was a runner, though.

SPEAKER_03 13:28

Yeah. You were a runner, but it was for your goose, Ken.

SPEAKER_04 13:32

Okay, well, um, yeah. I think this yeah, we could just say it's for a goose.

SPEAKER_01 13:36

Ken just pretend he didn't see it fall half a kilometer away.

SPEAKER_04 13:39

Well, no, it was thrown in the field. I was like, well, I didn't think I'd hit it, honestly. And anyways, I saw it going, I was like, you know, you know what? Maybe I can, you know, give her a hit it, and then I shot it, and I'm like, no, I don't think so. And then it just went just way off. And Caleb did go for a run, yeah. Yeah, it was quite the job. I was gonna, but you're already behind me, about to be ahead of me. So a lot longer legs.

SPEAKER_02 13:58

Yeah, a lot longer legs.

SPEAKER_04 14:00

Yeah, yeah. But um younger. But I mean, that's that's good how it works because like Ryan, you and I are running out of two, but you know, that's what you want when everyone's like, take them, you're shooting, right? And then they go down, like rush out, grab them quick, bring them back. And then who had the blind that we were throwing all of them? Because one of the blinds is especially designed. That's Ryan's one of Ryan's blinds.

SPEAKER_01 14:19

Oh, for hiding birds. For hiding birds, yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 14:21

So I remember I'm like who was under. You had a friend one time that came with a slogan. We limited out that morning. I remember I was just I almost hit him with one because someone's like, just throw them under there, and I'm just like whipping them in, just about clipped them with one. But um, yeah, that was uh it's handy.

SPEAKER_01 14:36

Yeah, it's like a flat top blind, yeah, layout blind, and then it has the the skirts on the side to tuck them under. Yeah, we threw 30 birds under that thing. On one side.

Calling Skills And Decoy Strategy

SPEAKER_04 14:45

I know. And then this is the year that you we've that was pretty full. Hunted with the most hunted with the most many decoys, too. Remember that morning we were like putting them all out and like, how many do we need? Like, I don't know, but I know how many we're using.

SPEAKER_02 14:57

Well we went out that it was gonna be the first hunt that we were actually gonna have all of them. Like everyone was there that had except Caleb's.

SPEAKER_03 15:06

Yeah, mine right there.

SPEAKER_02 15:08

No, I'm talking about the other hunt. The one we had with Mike. Mike. Oh, yeah. Yeah, because that was the first one that I we uh Dalton that I was gonna get to hunt with Dalton that season. I guess it was the second hunt. Because he bought a bunch of decoys, too. Well, he bought two dozen more. Black ducks, didn't he? We bought black ducks.

SPEAKER_04 15:27

He didn't buy geese, did he?

SPEAKER_02 15:28

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 15:28

Oh.

SPEAKER_02 15:30

But then he didn't bring the geese. I don't know if he forgot them or that's why I didn't see them. I can't remember if he forgot them or why he didn't bring them. It was early season, it didn't take too many decoys to be. But it was still the first one we were gonna have, and I don't know why he didn't bring them, but we were all just kind of sitting here like, don't mind I have decoys like. I don't know.

SPEAKER_01 15:47

But now we would have had he also bought a Ford truck, so you don't want that extra weight in the back.

SPEAKER_02 15:53

Yeah. Because you have a dozen, he got two dozen, and then two dozen field ducks. I had six field ducks, and oh god, how many was it? All avionacts.

SPEAKER_04 16:03

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Those ones work really well. But it what a difference in that hunt where we limited out in the other one we limited out too easily, but the time frame between them was a few more weeks, and those geese were harder because not too far off in the distance on that other big hunt that we had. You could hear people just far and away like a shooting arcade.

SPEAKER_01 16:20

Yeah, there was other groups out that morning, so very close.

SPEAKER_04 16:23

Those ones took uh they took a little more work to uh I think that was a later morning too, wasn't it?

SPEAKER_03 16:28

That they flew, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 16:29

It was the birds flew late that morning. There was a lot, but we had to work them kind of off their path over to the field.

SPEAKER_04 16:36

They did take some work in the cracks for an interesting.

SPEAKER_01 16:38

When you get multiple groups out in the local area, though, it actually kind of benefits you a little bit because it keeps birds up in the air moving. Yeah, yeah. Because if they shoot at a flock, there may be three more flocks in the air that they really didn't spook too much, but they just pushed off that field.

SPEAKER_02 16:52

Yeah, I mean, or even those like twos or threes that are freaking out and they just go find a field that has geese already landed, and then you could pick up even those tens sometimes.

SPEAKER_04 17:01

So many geese, but I mean it's like here, no one guides for it here, and you can't because it's so inconsistent. But I mean, when we have geese coming in, we've got thousands.

SPEAKER_01 17:10

I mean, you could you could guide because you could probably hunt you think here, it's a little more inconsistent here, not like you might not be able to hunt seven days a week, but you probably there's the amount of geese around now compared to when I first started goose hunting.

SPEAKER_03 17:22

Yeah, it's picking up a lot in the last couple like ten times the amount of birds.

SPEAKER_02 17:26

Yeah, it'd be hard enough going here because like all the firms that mainly have corn already have their guys now. Because like even since we like when we were like when we were like twenty, like nineteen years old, like twenty-three or four years old, like there was only like two other groups, period. Yeah. Anywhere.

SPEAKER_04 17:45

Luckily, Ryan and then your family, we've got access to all the fields around. Five dairy farms around. Five large dairy farms around. Yeah. So that helps a lot. But I mean But there's a lot more groups around. It's it's competitive too, I find like you know, you get deer hunters how they are with their areas, but I think waterfowl hunters are worse. For spots? Oh yeah, 100%. For fields, I think that's doesn't matter where you are in Canada or the United States.

SPEAKER_01 18:09

I think it's actually what's quite rare for the area that we're at is it's not uh fields aren't leased. Right. Like a lot of other areas that you go to, you get guys spending big money and they'll lease a field or they'll leave so far.

SPEAKER_02 18:25

Like I worked at Bassbro just in college and I had guys coming over from the island all the time because that's where you could buy decoys.

SPEAKER_04 18:31

So they come over to Yeah, don't be suggesting around to your family that we pay for leases.

SPEAKER_02 18:36

Start billing everyone to like guys coming over from PEI and we got talking about water pond when they were buying. Yeah, they paid big money for it. And they were like, How much he's like, what's it? He's like, What's it like over here for like leases and fields and stuff? Like, man, I got like I got like 1,500 acres of cornfield I can just pick from. I would have just told them like that.

SPEAKER_04 18:51

Oh, it's ridiculous about it.

SPEAKER_02 18:54

He just looked at me like, what? I'm like, yeah, I just basically pick a field and like I got like 1,500 acres to choose from just guys I know.

SPEAKER_01 19:01

Out there you can spend fifteen hundred dollars and that will get you one field for the year.

SPEAKER_02 19:07

Like if they're in the field beside that, you're you at least don't cover that. So we're blessed here.

SPEAKER_01 19:11

I mean, you're hunting on an island though. They they have a lot of birds there. They do, yeah. But still that's that's a lot you you know to pay to play. It's it turns into more of a rich man. For out here, if you want it to. You could get it, you know, a dozen decoys used. Yeah. You get permission from a farmer, and you could probably go out and have a good hunt for not a whole lot. Depending.

SPEAKER_04 19:30

I mean, especially the early season, the where they're not nearly as educated and stuff, they're they're gonna be coming in.

SPEAKER_02 19:35

Or if you just have a real good location some days, just yeah.

SPEAKER_04 19:40

There a lot of scouting this year. I know Dalton did put a lot of work into scouting and all that and finding where they where they are and stuff. We um That's usually half the hunt right there.

Decoys, Limits, And Pressure Hunts

SPEAKER_01 19:50

Finding where the birds are at. Driving around the east. In the in an area and then where they're landing in in that property. Yeah. And what time. So you kind of know how long it's.

SPEAKER_02 20:00

Like, if you're even like three, four hundred yards off where the birds don't want to land in the same field, you're still gonna have a tough enough time. Oh, yeah. Like you can't just know if you're in a big cornfield and like you can't know like they're just in that field. Yeah. You can to an extent, but you do have to work a little harder. For people listening, though, like our big cornfields are not big, flat open places. We're talking like a 20-acre field, a 15-acre field, a 10-acre field.

SPEAKER_04 20:25

Oh no, the guys' catch one are like that's the amount of space I need to turn this tractor around.

SPEAKER_01 20:30

Some like we're and we get a lot of elevation changes in our field too. So you gotta set up in a spot where they're comfortable landing.

SPEAKER_04 20:37

Yeah.

unknown 20:38

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 20:38

And playing, you know, obviously playing the wind and stuff too.

SPEAKER_02 20:41

But we've had some of our best hunts in some odd, odd little fields that were only like five acres.

SPEAKER_04 20:46

And with some odd people. Remember you coming, Caleb? Caleb, do you have you have a story you were hunting, don't you have a story you're hunting waterfowl up?

SPEAKER_03 20:54

In Bell Dune, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 20:56

And what happened?

SPEAKER_03 20:57

Yeah, we were hunting in Bell Dune, and it was an area that we hadn't hunted before, but uh we had uh permission at a new location, but we had to take the landowner's son with us.

SPEAKER_04 21:08

And hold on, let's unpack this. So he's like, Yes, you can go, but you have to take my son. Have you ever met the son before?

SPEAKER_03 21:15

Yeah, we we knew we knew who he was.

SPEAKER_04 21:18

Okay, because I was like, if it's just some random kid.

SPEAKER_03 21:20

Yeah, I don't I don't forget how old he was. He was like probably like thir yeah, twelve or thirteen or something like that. Like he was just old enough to do it.

SPEAKER_04 21:27

Don't let the face tattoos throw you off. He hasn't been in prison for a while and he's like, okay. Yeah. Uh he's gonna have to borrow a gun because he's not allowed to own any.

SPEAKER_03 21:35

Yeah, so we we never scouted up there. The the young fella said he knew where the geese were, so we went up we we looked at it on like Google Maps. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, we were looking at on Google Maps, and yep, he he knew where where we were set up. He sent us some videos the night before and of geese. Of geese in the field.

SPEAKER_04 21:53

And and twerking. Just weird.

Access, Leases, And Local Competition

SPEAKER_03 21:55

Um and then so we we went up there and uh we got all set up and it was dark, and we s we yeah, we were set up and we had geese start coming in. I think at the time we had like I don't know, like a dozen geese down or something like that. And um yeah, we got uh there was a fella in the bushes on the edge of the field, and he was recording dark? No, no, this is after after we'd already started shooting birds. Yeah, and he was recording us shooting birds.

SPEAKER_04 22:21

You're like, cool, we're gonna be able to do that.

SPEAKER_03 22:22

So we're like, okay, well that's that's kind of weird, but alright, like teach their own, I guess. Anyways.

SPEAKER_04 22:29

Maybe he's starting a hunting channel, spying on other hunters and filming them.

SPEAKER_03 22:32

Yeah, so probably like another 15 minutes went by, and then there was a a red truck just come ripping in the field, and uh dust just rolling everywhere, and they stopped by our trucks, and there's two of them. One got out and he went and took pictures of our license plates, and we were on private ground, and the young fella's son was with us, so we knew we were we had permission. Yeah. And uh the other fella came ripping across the the field. We learned later on his name was Storm and Norman, or that's what the locals up there called him.

SPEAKER_04 23:00

How old were you guys? Two years younger, right?

SPEAKER_03 23:03

Sounds like it fits. Yeah, this is like three years ago, two, three, four years ago.

SPEAKER_04 23:07

Like 17, 18. You were still wet behind the ears.

SPEAKER_03 23:10

Yeah. Yeah, you were like 18, 19, 20. Um, anyways. So he come, he was just ripping mad, and he come just cursing and swearing at us across the field. And there was eight of us out in the field, all with loaded shotguns, because we're waterfowl hunting. So we're like, what are you gonna do, bud? Anyways, yeah, he was mad. We ended up getting him calmed down. He's saying we weren't we didn't have permission to be there, and this and that, and whatnot. And um then we figured we figured out the kids say it's like the fuck we don't. Yeah, he's that's what yeah, he got right up and he told this guy right off. This like well he's getting like 12 or 13 year old, just told this like 50-year-old man right off he has his property. What's that? Oh yeah, he did a kid. Yeah, he had a little bit of mouth on him. Yeah, anyways, it I wish I recorded it because it was it was pretty pretty comical. And uh we ended up learning later on that there was a house in the woods, and luckily we had set up it was like 210 meters away from the house, so we were legal and whatnot.

SPEAKER_04 24:08

Yeah, so here it's a little context, you have to be 200 meters with a shotgun from a dwelling.

SPEAKER_03 24:13

Right.

SPEAKER_04 24:13

Yep.

SPEAKER_03 24:14

Yeah, so uh Yeah, I lost my okay. So yeah, there's a house in the woods, and you couldn't see it from Google Maps or anything like that. And uh yeah, they they thought we were too close to the house, basically. So we got them calmed down, they went over and showed us where their house was, and uh by that point we had watched birds flaring while we were out talking and all morning.

SPEAKER_00 24:32

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 24:32

And uh so we got them all calmed down. They they took off, they left, thought it was all done. We just we're like the hell with it. We're just gonna pack up and head out. And uh we we started packing up. Next thing you know, RCMP show up, they come and talk to us.

SPEAKER_04 24:46

The police.

SPEAKER_03 24:47

Yeah, and they they didn't have any jurisdiction over like hunting licenses and whatnot, but you be sure to tell them that?

unknown 24:53

No.

SPEAKER_03 24:54

No, no, no, no. They just they just checked our pal and they wanted to make sure we were far enough away from houses and they're like, yeah, you guys didn't do anything wrong.

Scouting And Small Field Tactics

SPEAKER_04 25:00

The PAL, for those listening, saying the states didn't have to have its possession, accusation license, which you need to acquisition. Yeah, accusation. So I think we're saying the same thing. Um it's just coming out of our mouths differently. Uh you have to have that to buy uh guns and ammo and to carry them now too. They're pretty strict on that.

SPEAKER_03 25:19

Yeah, so we weren't doing anything wrong.

SPEAKER_04 25:21

Yeah, it was just kind of our government does like to accuse us of stuff.

SPEAKER_03 25:25

Yeah, we probably could have got them charged with like hunter harassment or something if we really wanted to. But he also he did the the Storm and Norman, when he was fired up, he did threaten to put a dig a hole uh dig a hole and put us in it, and that's it. He's saying he was pretty fired up.

SPEAKER_04 25:39

You guys had the guns.

SPEAKER_03 25:40

Yeah, we had the guns. No, he didn't.

SPEAKER_04 25:44

No. Well, it's called that bluff, didn't you? And what did the 13-year-old say, listen here, you mother trucker?

SPEAKER_03 25:51

Yeah, well, so he came in saying it was the the 13-year-old's grandmother's land and that we didn't have permission to be there and whatnot.

SPEAKER_04 25:59

No, because he wouldn't know her or anything, the 13-year-old.

SPEAKER_03 26:02

But uh his grandmother was dead. So he yeah, so he went off at him Adam saying, My grandmother's dead. Like, and he was just cursing, swearing, and going and saying, like, this is my father's land now or whatever, and that we had permission to be there. But uh yeah, it was it was quite the event.

SPEAKER_04 26:19

Well, that that's the thing, yeah. Hunter harassment, Logan and Ryan, you guys uh have dealt with it. Ryan's neighbor. What are you giving me a funny look for? You haven't harassed anybody, have you?

SPEAKER_01 26:27

Logan, you guys have dealt with some No, never never in a field or nothing like that. But she's called on you guys. Well, no, we've had we've had the Rangers check us before.

SPEAKER_02 26:35

She sat up at the top of the hill flashing flashlights at us at like 4 30 in the morning from her deck, and then we all had like different color strobes on our headlamps, you know, that little red strobe or blue strobe, so we just gave her a little bit.

SPEAKER_04 26:49

Sensit tracers her way.

SPEAKER_02 26:51

Yeah, but nothing actually like well, she'd always want the rangers.

A-Frame Lessons And Concealment

SPEAKER_01 26:56

No one's ever like really done anything near that. I've never had a range uh DNR officer ever walk in on a hunt. I thought he did. I've never been checked in my life.

SPEAKER_03 27:04

They check you after, is that what they do?

SPEAKER_01 27:06

Or yeah, or like they've talked to like we've only ever had them show up when we're hunting like around our home farm, and then someone someone on the farm will talk and be like, hey, you know, these are the guys up there. If you want to wait, check them after the hunt, no big deal. Yep. And they're usually gone.

SPEAKER_04 27:20

That's respectful.

SPEAKER_01 27:21

I mean, there's some DNR eight here, they go storm and or they'll they can see from a distance, so they'll just park the truck and they'll watch with binoculars for a little bit, see that everything looks like it's checking. It's not like you can hide. Yeah, you're in the middle of the field. Well, you're trying to from the duck. Middle of an open field with decoys shooting like nothing to hide. If you want to check us out, go ahead. But I it's good.

SPEAKER_02 27:42

It'd be the stupidest hunting to even try to do illegally for anyone because you're like you're in the middle of a field.

SPEAKER_03 27:48

Most of the time you're by a road because that's where you're scouting from.

SPEAKER_02 27:52

You got four trucks parked by a cornfield, and then you look down and there's four blobs of corn and then a bunch of decoys. Like it's the most unhidden hunting ever.

SPEAKER_04 28:01

Well, I mean, you are trying to remain somewhat hidden because of the species you're after, but yeah, uh, which brings me to learning the A-frame. No luck with that. Oh, we didn't.

SPEAKER_01 28:10

We shot that bird with it.

SPEAKER_04 28:11

Uh yeah, I suppose, but since then, because remember we had a few hunts at earhouse around with the A-frame. They they just were late season. With Dalton too, is it with him about two weeks ago? We had the A-frame set up. We had lots of ducks and geese coming in. Um there's a time and a place. The A-frame just you know, couldn't hold it.

SPEAKER_02 28:27

We did okay out of it. Like the best time we probably had out of it was like cloudy days. Yeah. Because you get a big sunny morning, that cat that shadow when the sunrise comes up casts 30, 40 feet. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 28:37

So you guys are sat in it right out in the middle of the field or yeah, that's what makes it tricky.

SPEAKER_01 28:40

Unless you've got a spot where you got a bit of a hedgerow you can throw it in. Right. Then you can conceal it a bit more.

SPEAKER_02 28:45

But otherwise it's tough in the middle. Geese around here don't like getting that close to edges of fields, usually.

SPEAKER_01 28:52

Yes. And most cornfields are cut so clean. Yeah. There's no it's hard enough to hide a layout. Sold by this guy.

SPEAKER_03 29:01

Used by that guy.

Guns, Loads, And Reliability

SPEAKER_01 29:03

Yeah, to try to hide an A-frame, like the layouts are hard enough to hide on their own.

SPEAKER_04 29:08

Yeah. Yeah, no, they are. Um, everyone's happy with their guns and all that this year. I mean, I'm just running the old 870 Super Magnum Condor Extreme. No, it's just 870 Super Magnum. Uh pump works great. Caleb, you're running the same thing.

SPEAKER_03 29:23

Yeah, minus the Super Mag.

SPEAKER_04 29:25

Yeah. Uh yeah, because Caleb's a super fag.

SPEAKER_02 29:28

It's weird. Caleb. Caleb's hits a lot more stuff.

SPEAKER_04 29:33

That's not no. No. Not true. Uh what are you, I forget, what are you shooting again, Logan? Shotgun.

SPEAKER_02 29:39

Uh SX uh Winchester SX3 waterfowl.

SPEAKER_04 29:42

And Ryan, you've got you, how long have you had yours your gun? How many rounds does that thing had to go through it? A lot of years.

SPEAKER_02 29:47

The old Stoger M3.

SPEAKER_04 29:48

Stoger, that's right, yes. That's Canadian brand, right? Stoger. I thought it was. Maybe not. I don't think their guns. I've got a few with their No, it's uh is it under Beretta?

SPEAKER_01 30:00

No. No. No, it's inertia system, so it'd be it, it's uh it's a company off of Benelli.

SPEAKER_04 30:04

Oh, okay. I couldn't remember if it's Beretta or Benelli.

SPEAKER_01 30:06

I thought it was under the gas system guns. Right. Don't quote me on that, but I'm pretty sure.

SPEAKER_02 30:11

I think all the semis are gas.

SPEAKER_04 30:14

Because I've got a few of the Stoger, uh, I've got an over and under and a side-by-side 20. And I like them because they're just basic, but they're rugged guns. Just simple, simple, rugged. I like them. Mine's a semi and she never skips a beat. No, you've you've used that a lot.

SPEAKER_02 30:30

You've had that since you were what, fifteen?

SPEAKER_04 30:32

Yeah. Fifteen, yeah. So thirteen years. Yeah. I know some guys get into the old fancy guns and all that.

SPEAKER_02 30:38

You haven't really done anything to it. Clean it, clean it and oil it, and then put lots of rounds to her. That's what she likes. She has been fed the three and a half blind sides for a lot of years. She's been underwater a couple times. Yeah, I'm done shooting three and a half. That's the only time I've ever had an issue with mine if I go for a swimming.

SPEAKER_04 30:56

Yeah, but you carry in your bag, which I thought was really smart that time. We were out at your guys' pond, Elliott Lake, and you had that bottle of WD-40. Oh, yeah. I was like, that's smart. That's a good idea. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 31:06

Well, I didn't I didn't have it the first time it jammed. Oh. There's a reason why you carry it now. Yeah, a little spray can WD40 or three and one oil, because if I dunk it, I just literally have to spray a little bit in there, and then she cycles fine.

SPEAKER_01 31:18

That pond has some widow makers in it. And you don't realize you're what you're just walking along, and next thing you know, you're over top of your waiters.

SPEAKER_02 31:24

I was going, I was walking for a bird, and Ryan looked over and looked at me while I was walking away. He looked over at the bird he was chasing, he looked back, and I was gone. Like literally gone. I remember actually no he's doing a doggy paddle through the water. I remember turning around underwater and then walking up out of the water again. And we were there, like that's after we shot the pond. There was a couple birds in there on the far side that came from us, and we blast them, and there was one landed far side. So that's right when we got there too. So I still had a whole hunt.

SPEAKER_04 31:51

That is we built like a little platform just on some cedars and uh well you guys when I was in there, what, the first time a few years ago, you guys like, oh, you gotta be careful in here. And it wasn't bad that time going in at all. Well, we kind of had a path. Yes.

SPEAKER_02 32:04

If you're going in there blind or going out, the water wasn't that deep that year.

Pond Mishaps, Waders, And Safety

SPEAKER_04 32:07

No, that might have been the first year, but the year before that, like there was that was the time that we met up because you you're part of the ponds on your guys' property, your family property, part of the pond's on someone else's. And we got there and we saw that there's people hunting on the other side. Oh, that's right. So then we were like, remember we we did you know the polite thing we paddled over and like, hey, do you guys want to hunt with us? This is where we think the ducks and stuff are gonna be coming in. You guys hunt with us? Yeah, this is where the duck is. Yeah, this is where you're like, no, we're good.

SPEAKER_03 32:33

And uh you guys just shot across the pond at each other instead?

SPEAKER_04 32:37

Uh we were careful about it. Anyways, and they had a dog with us.

SPEAKER_03 32:39

They didn't get too happy.

SPEAKER_02 32:40

The dog got so bored with them and came over to us.

SPEAKER_04 32:43

So they were shooting away and they weren't hitting anything because you you we were looking, and they weren't, and the ducks were all coming to us, and we weren't getting them and looking, and or we were getting them and shooting, and they were going down, and the dog's looking over, and they could see the ducks coming down, and then they weren't paying attention, and the dog had a leash on, and it starts you see it coming across the pond to us, and then it's like coming over to help us and all of that.

SPEAKER_02 33:06

It was getting it was getting so bored. Yeah, and then just like ten minutes later you hear them calling for the dog. I don't think we had a limit. We had like most of a limit.

SPEAKER_04 33:13

Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 33:14

They were 15 minutes before they realized their dog went missing. Yeah, that's clearly it's a good size later.

SPEAKER_01 33:19

And we were like, and we were like yelling, like, hey, your dog's over here, and they were just But like how do you not realize total water?

SPEAKER_02 33:26

You measure that pond in acres. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 33:28

Well, yeah, how do you not realize though you bring one dog and it's missing? It's a black lap. Like, I don't know, you think they would have noticed sooner? It had the leash, like, geez, lucky it never got caught in those dogs.

SPEAKER_02 33:39

Yeah, but he had it, he had a duck in his mouth and he started going back. I'm like, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. You know what? Smart dog though. He did try to take a dog, a duck back to his owners. Yeah. Yeah. He had his mouth like, oh buddy, come here, buddy, buddy.

SPEAKER_04 33:51

It's like, come here. He's like, he didn't know where to go. Like, well, they shot it, but these are my owners.

SPEAKER_02 33:55

He's like on a ramp. These guys shoot birds.

SPEAKER_01 33:58

Yeah. Yeah. I'm just gonna go over to their get them birds, and then bring them by. Dang us, we offered and they they must have.

SPEAKER_02 34:03

The pond L's. We went in like the Like. Top side of the L looking now. Might as well get two beer. And uh Yeah, anyway, we ended up Yeah, we still got quite a few birds at night. That is a good spot. It's a good spot. It's just yeah, it used to be.

SPEAKER_04 34:18

In terms of waterfell hunting, I like the duck hunting better, honestly. The geese is fun, but ducks over water, I don't know.

SPEAKER_02 34:23

That's ducks over it's it's a different kind of fast rush. It's it's fast paced.

SPEAKER_01 34:29

Shoot it. It's like shooting a fighter jet compared to a dive bomb. Like a big bomb or something. I like it.

SPEAKER_02 34:33

Like the geese are slow and big and loud and like if I want to if I'm in the mood to really go shoot some birds and have a good pond hunt, hard-to-beat duck, but there's some days I like the I like the chess game of goose hunting.

SPEAKER_04 34:47

Yeah, it is fun, but yeah, like you said, yeah. I think you'll enjoy goose hunting more, Ken, when you start learning how to call. I I'm I think I'm gonna work. It's fun to watch birds react to calling. I think I'm gonna, you know, I've been doing the few last few years as a runner. In my short little legs, you know, I uh I was like, you know, maybe I should learn how to call.

Ducks Versus Geese And The Call

SPEAKER_02 35:04

It's hard when the you can't man anymore, Ken. Yeah, yeah. And you can't pick the geese up high enough that they drag on the ground. It makes it a little hard to run with.

SPEAKER_04 35:12

Yeah. But no, you're right. The geese are, yeah, they're they're big, slow, and loud. They're kind of like my wife's grandmother. And um the ducks are more the ducks are more like uh like how I'd be. I'd just be like, woo, just come flying in out of nowhere, right? And that's uh that's what like you know, the ADHD animals flying around with the uh the animal world kind of thing. But um no, the g the goose hunting is a lot of fun setting up for it and all that. And but the ducks, like I said, just overwater and they just come flying, and it's like but it is fast shooting, and you don't realize how much of a lead you need to have on them sometimes stuff. Because remember, Caleb, when we were guiding this year and we had them out and they were they were missing a lot, but we told them they were teal, so they're really fast, but we told them like they're they're they are hard to hit, and like you you don't realize the distance always like they're further than you think, they're closer than you think, lead more like it is tricky.

SPEAKER_02 36:00

Well, the distance on your teal, you could almost hit a teal in your spread, but your BBs miss at a certain range.

SPEAKER_01 36:05

Well, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 36:06

Yeah, teal are the toughest duck to shoot. Oh, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 36:10

As far as to hit, yeah, you do. They'll come in a little easier than something.

SPEAKER_02 36:14

Quite a while to snap your gun up and then just look at a bird real quick and know your lead, how fast it's going, how far away it is, and all that kind of in one. You can't like you can't just think you can't think about either. No. Or else you're only gonna get one shot off and probably still miss because you're thinking.

SPEAKER_04 36:29

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 36:30

Don't think, just do.

SPEAKER_04 36:32

Yeah. Uh that's how I go. That's my life motto. That's my next my next tattoo. You know, some girls have just breathed on them, like, don't think, just do. So I got all these other tattoos.

SPEAKER_01 36:42

That's why I got the tattoo. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 36:44

Um but uh but I'll tell you what my favorite. That's how you got the mustache. Well, this is uh that's his flavor savory. This is my pretty sweet mustache. It's my trucker mustache. Um, I just have to have like one of the team meetings, you know, like, hey, uh, let's grow it in everywhere. You know, but uh that's all right. It'll get with the program.

SPEAKER_02 37:01

Is that how it grows if you just don't shave for like two weeks?

SPEAKER_04 37:04

I haven't shaved for two days. Okay, no, it's been like three weeks.

SPEAKER_01 37:07

This has been quite a bit of a long time, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 37:11

Been working on it. I'm uh grower, not a shower. Um or whatever. Slower grower. Slower grower. Mustache wise. Um but I'll tell you probably one of my favorite things about the waterfowl hunting, besides, you know, I like anything, yeah. Is the uh is the camaraderie. And just it's just it's a very social hunt, which I like a lot, and it's made for, depending on who you're with, have good joking, laughing, fun, safe time.

SPEAKER_01 37:39

There's a lot of shit talking in a goosebly versus duck blind.

SPEAKER_02 37:42

Like versus deer hunting, like you have to have your mental toughness after four weeks of hunting deer and just standing there by yourself versus going out and just literally just got four guys just shooting the shit. Shooting the shit and just on your ass all morning about everything you do.

SPEAKER_04 37:59

Yeah. Come on, use to chest, you fat fuck, or whatever.

SPEAKER_02 38:02

You know, when people are getting them and nice calling that decoy, you put his goose's knee angled a little too far right.

Delta Waterfowl And Gear Picks

SPEAKER_04 38:09

Or be people being called, they sound like a kazoo when calling, you know, or the shots like safe spot for you for those geese right in front of your gun the way you're shooting, stuff like that.

SPEAKER_03 38:18

Or people with little legs retrieving geese. Yeah. Any anything like that?

SPEAKER_04 38:22

All over six foot. It's funny. Everyone that hunt you guys are all.

SPEAKER_03 38:25

How do you know I was that was directed at you?

SPEAKER_02 38:26

Yeah, that's why we it wasn't. That's why when we hunt with Ken, we usually have a kneeling photo. No. I'm looking at a picture on the wall. Or when they're kneeling and Ken's at my shoulder.

SPEAKER_04 38:37

I know it looks like I'm laying on my stomach.

SPEAKER_02 38:39

Yeah. That was the that was the youth hunting day. Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 38:45

No mustache there. Um Yeah, I know what that's like.

SPEAKER_02 38:48

That's when you started growing it.

SPEAKER_04 38:49

Well, there's another photo behind Ryan. I was with Dalton and Ryan. They're standing on either side of the truck, and I'm in the truck in the bed, so I can be up higher.

SPEAKER_02 38:58

Still taller.

SPEAKER_04 38:59

No, yeah. Their heads are still a little above mine. Well, um, it's handy because any chest waiters I buy go up damn near to my chin. So chin waiting. You buy hip waiters. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 39:11

Like usually you hear like hip waiter size nine tall. Nine size nine short.

SPEAKER_04 39:17

Yeah. Yeah. But uh, you know, no, it's a lot of fun. Yeah, I do uh I think I'm gonna learn to do the the goose calling. It's fun.

SPEAKER_02 39:24

It's it's hard to throw a goose throw a call in your vehicle. The trickiest part about it, it's it's almost better to learn. If you can do it on a shitty call and then buy a good call, I don't know if you'd want to like it.

SPEAKER_04 39:37

Because I've really enjoyed the diaphragm calling learning for Turkey. I th I've gotten a lot better at that. I really enjoyed that, so I was like, I want to do this.

SPEAKER_02 39:44

Yeah, don't do that, don't do that into a goose call though.

SPEAKER_01 39:47

No. No.

SPEAKER_02 39:48

But yeah, I almost bought I almost buy it.

SPEAKER_01 39:50

When you're diaphragm calling, Ken, you do the same thing I did where you just threw a call in your vehicle with you. And then when you 'cause well, you just you truck for a little bit.

SPEAKER_04 39:58

I'm a truck driver, so I'd be I'd be just driving like uh somebody on the C B and I'll like and I'm just in the mo I'm just in the zone, right? I was gonna tell somebody to move and I'm like Well get the fuck off the car Trying to tell you an Eastern Wild Turkey the first time.

SPEAKER_02 40:17

But that's the best way, yeah. Throw the call in your vehicle. The only thing about goose calling is need two hands.

SPEAKER_04 40:22

Well, I've got my drive with your knees, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 40:24

You're not talking about telling them drive with your knees. Cruise control. Um well I mean if you can clock, if you can get the clock down with the colour.

SPEAKER_04 40:32

But the duck, I do want to practice duck calling more. I can't so I can't admit I can I can duck call a little.

SPEAKER_02 40:38

You can duck call to the point we won't yell at you when you're duck calling.

SPEAKER_04 40:41

Yes, I can I can do that much. I can't do that much.

SPEAKER_02 40:44

Fucking kazoo.

SPEAKER_04 40:45

But uh yeah, I I I can definitely duck call better than it's gonna be. But I do want to practice now, how big of a difference does it make? Because I mean we were talking about this, think you and me, Ryan, about the difference in between well, I think it's like anything but a good quality call and a cheaper one, like calling them a Logan, like you can really notice the difference. Yeah.

Waders, Boots, And Budget Brands

SPEAKER_02 41:05

Like I find on a real cheap call, like the breaking point on when it the read snaps to get that clock and that finish, it's so much more precise on a good call. Yeah. And just the barrel, how the barrel, how the barrels are made, like well, and how much air you have to use too. Oh yeah, like even like well, a lot of the how much air you have to use is the barrel of your call, and you're gonna short read or long reading, like a short read. I think anyone really calling for the most part, and a lot of like the high brands, all short read calls. But it's yeah, a lot to do with like where you are, what you want to do with it too. Like, because the last call I had that I don't know how still they stand, I lost a lanyard.

SPEAKER_04 41:50

Oh, yeah, you're in a field.

SPEAKER_02 41:52

A couple dollars there, uh anyway. I had a Moltgear rush, and that was the back end off one of their calls with the front end of the other of their calls, so it was like a deep barrel at the back with a short front, and it needed no air at all, and it was very cocky chirpy, like you could do a lot of things with it real, real fast, and but like versus my Tim Grounds call that's more longer barreled call, it's a deeper, heavier, louder call.

SPEAKER_04 42:19

Oh, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 42:20

Like if it like, and I mean I'm we're not pulling geese off flyaway, I don't know. I just maybe like that deeper tone myself, but it works.

SPEAKER_04 42:27

You and Caleb, when you guys were you know going at it this year, they they were coming in, they were turning and stuff. But how come you don't see any more? Uh used to be when you see goose calls, you had those great big long looking flute flutes. Uh you don't see I don't see that.

SPEAKER_01 42:41

Those are more for like a long range, like flyaway calls. That's what I think they're for, at least. Yeah. Originally sold for. Logan? That was the original goose call.

SPEAKER_02 42:48

Well, that's what I thought. That's how they all work. That's how they all was now.

SPEAKER_03 42:52

It was a goose call. They're pretty dummy proof, too. Like they're simple to use. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 42:57

I think that might be where I'll start.

SPEAKER_03 42:59

Be a good spot to start. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 43:00

Yeah. Dummy proof.

SPEAKER_02 43:02

But um it Yeah, but like but the thing, like Ryan, you've had a flute for a lot of years and captive. Like, I can't make a clock out of that thing at all myself. It's so much different than running a like if you're trying to learn to go to a short barrel call, don't learn on a flute. Don't learn on a short. I can't even make that flute turn over. Like, I can't make that thing break or clock or nothing. I sound like and then Ryan just grabs and just trips away.

SPEAKER_04 43:29

I'm like, how are you doing that? But yeah, like said you don't you don't see them anymore. The old hunting magazine is a good one. But then the same thing.

SPEAKER_02 43:34

Ryan looks at me and has tried mine, does the same thing. It's like, how are you doing that?

SPEAKER_04 43:37

Yeah, yeah, that's true. Um speaking about hunting magazines too, anyone that signs up for Delta Waterfowl for their suppers that they have all over Canada and into the US, because they're based, I'm pretty sure they're based out of the US. Um, you get a free magazine from them, and I'll tell you, there's one in the room, they are really well put together. Really well put together. There's awesome gear in it and all these articles and everything, like the quality of the keepers and all that.

SPEAKER_02 44:03

You know what I actually really nice. But those is like the top ten products in this category. Yes. Like layout blinds and stuff, because like to buy a layout blind around here, if you don't want to buy the Cabela's Northern Flight. Northern Flight Elite layout blind, like there where else do you go to buy one?

SPEAKER_01 44:22

And you don't, and you don't know what else is good.

SPEAKER_02 44:24

Exactly. Like, that's the only one that you can see in the city. You can't get it at Bath. So like I actually like that that was my favorite thing. My first Delta Waterfowl magazine I got had like top ten recommended layout blinds. I'm like, oh my god, this is perfect because I kind of need it.

SPEAKER_04 44:37

Holy shit, there's more than one kind of waiter. You mean Northern Flight isn't the be-all end-all for waiters? Because I mean, that's the only option we get to be able to do.

SPEAKER_01 44:44

I mean, I get I get the cheapest Amazon waiters and they they're great. They work well.

SPEAKER_04 44:48

The tide we well, I was gonna say, so the bearded butchers, you know how much those guys are worth? I saw a thing they're hunting in Arkansas or Mississippi ducks, and Buddy had on the old tide we waited.

SPEAKER_01 44:57

I bought them because I was destructive on waiters. Like I figured a lot.

SPEAKER_02 45:04

We also ran a set of waiters that had size 13 boot because you forgot a pair when we went fishing one time.

SPEAKER_01 45:09

But I wrecked two other waiters in between that. That's true. Like blew the boot, and then one of them I wrecked it on a stick and just different things. And like they were those were like expensive waiters that I kept breaking. So then I bought cheap ones and those are last. I had the dryers. I had the Cabela's dry plus for a while. I really, really liked those. Those are the first waiters I ever had. Yep.

SPEAKER_04 45:33

But I've got the redhead ones. I've been happy with them. They leak a little now, so I just wear sweatpants on underneath.

SPEAKER_03 45:38

What you got my waders?

SPEAKER_04 45:40

Oh, because Caleb's a redhead. Clever, Caleb, clever. Um Ryan's a redhead too, so they could have been his. They're ours. We share them. Yeah. I don't think they would fit them. No. Maybe over his head.

SPEAKER_02 45:53

Ken fucking floats. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 45:55

They uh, yeah, mold overhead waders. Um no, they they've been really good, but they leak a bit now, so I just wear sweatpants underneath. I can't stand it. My weighters starting to leak. Yeah. Uh it's alright. I'm just clear. I need new one. I need new ones. Ken's used to pissing up.

SPEAKER_02 46:08

When I take my waders off, I have like I have to warm myself up. Like a pie plate, I have three wet spots on my legs. I got one on my right buttons, I can't on my low leg. Like, and it never like it never makes it down into my boot. Like my feet are dry, but it just seeps into my pants.

SPEAKER_04 46:22

I'd like to get the ones that you can zip. Like Kooyu. I think a few brands have them, but Kooyu looks like they have nice, really nice set where it's the the zipper basically a wetsuit. Yeah. Yeah, pretty much.

SPEAKER_01 46:31

Like you're waterproof right up to your neck, kind of thing.

SPEAKER_03 46:34

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 46:34

Uh yeah, but that's what the front zipper thing. Yeah, they yeah, they see. Uh our friend Jacob, though, what did he have? He has those ones, they're the Sitka ones. He bought a it they fold right up into this backpack thing.

SPEAKER_02 46:48

Yeah, and then the backpack also doubles like a foot stand. Yeah, you can stand a football. They were like$1,400.

SPEAKER_04 46:54

That's what they have a foot stand.

SPEAKER_01 46:56

Yeah, mine were$180. No. I don't even know what they were.

SPEAKER_02 47:01

I think they were$150 or$60 on sale. Because I was looking at the ones because they at the tide we actually has a set that's like$50 more, but it's like the heat of vest that has a heat pad in it. Really?

SPEAKER_01 47:11

The battery shocks you when you go to the phone. With a discount with a discount set of chest waiters. Yeah, with a discount chest waiters, and I could just poke it with a stick on a package.

SPEAKER_02 47:24

On a bad day, on a bad day, if we're having a bad hunt and it's real rainy, I might just click the button. It's like that's it. Death by Tide Week.

SPEAKER_01 47:32

Yeah. Man, you'd make headlines. This podcast is sponsored by Tidewee.

SPEAKER_02 47:37

Yeah, but they came with like they came with like hangers for them and that phone pack. I bet a tide weed book bag.

SPEAKER_04 47:42

I actually like it a lot. It's a big deal. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 47:44

Yeah. Even actually, one of the boys at work had the rubber boots. I know I was doing this. Actually, I'd like to try them.

SPEAKER_04 47:49

Yeah, the tide we rubber boots. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 47:50

And he loves them. Say he loved them.

SPEAKER_04 47:52

Yeah. No, they're they're a good Amazon brand.

SPEAKER_02 47:56

Friggin' right.

SPEAKER_04 47:56

They're not Amazon's.

SPEAKER_01 47:57

They're the same boots. They're the same boot as a lot of the higher name.

SPEAKER_02 48:02

They look like a muck. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 48:03

Yeah, like they're they're a really good boot, and that's one of the more important parts because you're on your feet when you're in them. The rest of it's warm and waterproof. So hopefully.

SPEAKER_04 48:12

You wet yourself, it's real warm.

SPEAKER_01 48:14

I washed a harvester with them on the other day, and like I was like kneeling down underneath the harvester on rocks, and like the knee pads are nice and soft, and my knees are shit. I wore mine.

SPEAKER_02 48:23

And I was comfy one time.

SPEAKER_01 48:24

You did? Oh yeah. Deer hunting?

Cooking Ducks And Goose Jerky

SPEAKER_02 48:26

Yeah. Opening day of the season. Wouldn't you be walking in just like it was it was like 15 mil of rain that evening?

SPEAKER_04 48:34

I used to wear them four-wheeling when I was younger and we'd go mudding, right? You know?

SPEAKER_01 48:38

That's how I broke my first set. Four wheeling? The uh kickstart on a Honda four-wheeler, right through the side of the boot.

unknown 48:44

Really?

SPEAKER_01 48:46

That was my first set of waders gone.

SPEAKER_04 48:48

I remember when I I had a dirt bike when I was younger, and it was a two-stroke, and it was all done up, and it was a bitch to kick over and get warmed up. So I used to, and it was too big for the bigger. That's when your legs weren't long enough to go through 100 pounds, not 126. I used to lean it up. I used to lean it up against the burn because I could my feet I could not touch on either side at all. And then I'd put my dad's work boots on. Did you say this was a hundredcc bike? No, it was 250. And um I'd I'd have my dad's work boots on. I'd be like jumping up and kicking it, kicking him, like, ah, and then the thing would like fall on me and all that. And then I'd just hear my mom, she's like, my dad's name's Jim. She's like, Jim, can you just go out and start it for him? I'd have to get the bike off me and like he'd get it going. I'd just be like, wipe it tears with face all pissed off, just revving it worn up. I was like, just revving it. He'd come out there one kick, just boom.

SPEAKER_02 49:39

Yeah, Ken Walker hunting is that meme. Wait for me. I got little legs.

SPEAKER_04 49:43

It's like I'll make it, I'll make it. Dragging geese along the ground. I'm average height, just everyone I hunt with is abnormally tall. Oh well, I don't hit my head coming down the stairs into the podcast room. You guys have to duck. Congratulations. Thanks. It's my small, it's the small battles.

SPEAKER_02 50:02

Little things in life.

SPEAKER_04 50:03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 50:04

He is the little thing in life. Okay. Sorry, Ken. You're taking a lot of heat. Thanks for having us out.

SPEAKER_04 50:10

Anyway, waterfall.

SPEAKER_02 50:13

I can take heat. Water foul. Some hands in here now. Yeah. Ken just punches straight and hits us in the nuts.

SPEAKER_04 50:19

Yeah, yeah. Yeah, you guys talk a lot of shit from somebody that can do that to you.

SPEAKER_02 50:24

Spider monkey.

SPEAKER_04 50:25

Uh yeah. Well, you know, uh it's uh it's a superpower.

SPEAKER_01 50:28

I will say Ken can make it across a pond in waiters faster than most people, though. Uh carefully, though.

SPEAKER_04 50:35

But yes.

SPEAKER_01 50:36

Yeah.

unknown 50:37

Faster.

SPEAKER_04 50:38

Just because I'm light. It's I'm light, right? I just kind of float along.

SPEAKER_03 50:42

You're white alright.

SPEAKER_04 50:42

I'm light. I am. I'm white and light. That's the whitest beard I've ever seen. No, it's not. Um, so uh lost my train of thought of someone here with that. The waterfowl hunting. Yeah, the waterfell hunting. No, it's it was a good season as usual, and we've had a lot of good uh good times doing it. And like I said, it's just fun coming out with the group, everyone's shit talking, all that, and then at the end of the day, I screw and ran all that. We still it's rare with goose hunting that we have we don't limit out.

SPEAKER_02 51:08

It is, yeah. Yeah. I mean, I didn't get out for that many hunts, but this year for geese, like I never didn't get a limit this year. Yeah. And then so that's the first year ever, and I didn't hunt that much, but like while I was ahead, I guess.

SPEAKER_04 51:22

One thing we haven't really talked about is you know, what do you do with all the meat? But Logan, you are the main guy for that. Tell us because some people like I don't like goose, but I'll tell you the jerky that you make. It was good because remember we were eating it in the blind, I'm eating it, and I'm watching these geese come in, and like I think I was like, you guys shoot this around because I'm just downing this jerky. Like, this is damn good.

SPEAKER_01 51:39

Yeah, Ken's in the blind, you just care.

SPEAKER_04 51:40

I would, I might be the smallest collector.

SPEAKER_02 51:42

I brought a full freezer bag of jerky.

SPEAKER_04 51:45

And I filled my freezer, and by that I mean my belly in the blind. And I'm like, you guys, I was like, I'm like, you guys shoot this flock, and I'm just eating white bells. Like, it's kind of weird. I'm watching these geese, I'm looking some of them in the eye basically, and they're landing it and I'm eating. And I'm eating goose. Yeah, I'm eating goose as the geese are flying. You guys are shooting. I'm like, this is weird. It's a little weird, but I'm gonna roll with it, you know? Uh but Logan.

SPEAKER_03 52:06

Take them back to the place you first met.

SPEAKER_04 52:08

Exactly. Yes.

SPEAKER_02 52:09

I'm setting them free. Oh, I'm excited. I hope Santa comes through this year for my Christmas.

SPEAKER_04 52:12

Well, so Logan, what is your recipe though? Because it is my recipe. You're one ass for my recipe. Well, what's your the thing that you do?

SPEAKER_02 52:19

I'll tell you the recipe. It's not that big deal about it. Yeah. I don't know. Like, literally, I just made this recipe up out of my ass. Oh, gross.

SPEAKER_04 52:28

I ate it.

SPEAKER_02 52:30

You're welcome. But like literally a one flips and everything. That's what no one wanted to share with me. Remember when we first heard Schumwe, we were like really shitty at it when we go like at like three or four in the evening and thought it was like the best night ever. But then I used to actually I usually actually make it in the oven.

SPEAKER_04 52:44

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 52:44

And like you just put the oven at like 180.

SPEAKER_04 52:47

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 52:47

And then just let it dry out. But like I just made up this jerky recipe. I kind of asked mom, like, what would you use for this? And she just said a few things and I added a few things and I've never changed it. But how do you how do you do you grind them up first? No, I don't do grind. You just do I slice.

SPEAKER_04 53:00

You just slice okay. Yeah, like I have a meat slicer.

SPEAKER_02 53:01

That's what I thought, I guess.

SPEAKER_04 53:02

I didn't look like it's a good one.

Jerky Recipe And Smoking Process

SPEAKER_02 53:02

I have like just like a normal meat slicer. The thing I tastes like ass. What I asked Santa for for Christmas, though, is one of the because I have one of the Cabell's like one horsepower commercial series grinders. Right, the carnivore. Yeah. Yeah. And uh anyway, I found what I asked for Santa is they have a jerky slicer attachment. Okay. So it's like 50 blades, and you literally just drop it in the top and it comes out the bottom.

SPEAKER_00 53:24

Oh, okay. In like jerky slices. Yeah. Yeah. Cool.

SPEAKER_02 53:27

I mean, when you take home that many birds, that many weekends to disperse back out. Oh my god. You're just sitting there with a meat slicer for 40 minutes.

SPEAKER_04 53:34

Like your truck's like whited down with geese in the back. Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 53:38

And then you get home and you're an hour and a half doing them. But it's good. It's really good.

SPEAKER_03 53:42

Did you guys know that uh Santa's not real?

SPEAKER_02 53:45

You were douchebag. Well, we're a doubts. Now we know. You're a douchebag. But what basically what I do is like I'll I soak I soak up my goose breasts in like salt water. Right. Yeah. Like fully cover them, put them in salt water so it draws the blood out. Usually I do that for like um. Usually I'll put them in the fridge for like sometimes they taste like shampoo because I bathe in there with them. Like, I don't know. Like I put them in the fridge for like four or five days.

SPEAKER_04 54:13

That long? Oh, I've soaked them in the salt before water, but like for a night.

SPEAKER_02 54:17

Oh, I'll leave them there for like four or five days. Really? But then basically uh then I'll take it. Like if it's a Sunday hunt, I'll smoke it next Saturday.

SPEAKER_04 54:27

Okay. I didn't know you did that long.

SPEAKER_02 54:28

But like soaking salt water and then like that next week and like I'll slice it up. Uh try to like give them home a good time Friday. Like I like to have at least a good overnight of marinating. Like I won't just marinate and then throw it on. I usually like to just like I'll do it. I'll come home Friday evening from work, I'll do it right away. So I'll slice it all up in like I don't know, I don't know how to explain how thick a thick as a normal jerky strip you'd be. It's thinly sliced. It's thinly sliced meat. And then what I do is is because I like to have most of the meat. Like when I I basically marinate just like the big freezer ziploc bags. And uh basically I just have enough fluid in the bag to cover all the meat, and then I shake it up. So what I do is I actually like and I just eyeball it now just because I've done it for a few birds. But actually I start with water in the bag. Water, a good like pretty good squeeze of soy sauce, a lot of dashes of wash your shester sauce. Watch your sister sauce.

SPEAKER_01 55:28

Say that ten times.

SPEAKER_02 55:28

Worcester shire sauce. Um a little bit of liquid smoke. The cheapest compliment is steak spice you can find. Really? Yep. Sprinkle a bunch of that in there. Salt, pepper, and garlic powder.

SPEAKER_04 55:45

And a little bit of love.

SPEAKER_02 55:46

And a whole lot of lemons. But that's all my iron it is. That's what it is. And then a bait and then I just kind of mix it and kind of just swish it around in the bag and then just throw meat in it, basically, until the meat isn't rounding over the water in the bag. And then I just mix it up the best, squeeze the top as hard as you can, mix it up the best you can to get all the spices in around everything.

SPEAKER_00 56:07

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 56:08

Let her sit in the fridge overnight, throw on the smoker. It's good. Usually on the smoker, it takes like, I don't know, because my smoker is large too. Like I can put in charge. Thirty birds took me three batches. That's not bad. Not bad, but you can put ten birds on your smoker. You probably can't picture it, but it's like twenty, it's like twenty five hundred square inches of cooking space in that smoker. Oh yeah. You're doing the math there, can? Yeah. It's big. Like it's it's be like three foot wide, a foot and a little bit deep, and four racks tall.

SPEAKER_04 56:44

Okay. Yeah.

Eating What You Shoot And Yields

SPEAKER_02 56:45

So like you gotta move the jerky around because the stuff around the real edges gets more heat because it just that's how it circulates up around the smoker. So you you do I like I don't know, I'll flip it, I'll check it after about an hour and a half and move some stuff around, and then it but usually it's all off by four, four and a half hours. Okay, yeah. For a batch. Like that day I did all I did all those. I did 30 birds in one day. And it was like I started it at 7 a.m. and it I think I got done at like 10 p.m.

SPEAKER_04 57:15

That's not bad.

SPEAKER_02 57:16

Wasn't too bad, no.

SPEAKER_04 57:17

I mean it takes a little bit of time.

SPEAKER_02 57:18

But um But that was also like that was that was returned six full stuffed bags of done jerky. Yeah, like the big Ziploc bags.

SPEAKER_04 57:28

Oh, I know, I ate one.

SPEAKER_02 57:30

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 57:31

It was good. It's like, yeah, uh my running, my running out to retrieve the duck the geese did slow down. Like, okay, let's go get it, and then I was like, full of shit. My belly's full.

SPEAKER_02 57:41

I'm full of geese. Yeah, but that's all the marinate is. Because I mean a lot of it's not really a secret. I think it's a pretty classic. Like I've tried, I've tried some different stuff too, and it's turned out all right. Like I tried to do like a sweet heat kind of one and some other stuff. Not so sweet heat. I've played with some, but I'd like to I'd like to play with a little more.

SPEAKER_01 57:58

But then you should do like a like a spicy one, but just put a couple in every bag next year for Ken.

SPEAKER_02 58:05

Just just coat one and some sort of dust.

SPEAKER_01 58:07

I don't do spice well.

SPEAKER_02 58:09

Just take one of those uh but you might not get it. I'm just gonna take one of those. You might get it too. I'm gonna take one of those ones.

SPEAKER_04 58:14

You guys will be getting it because I'll be going down to get the geese and blowing it out my ass.

SPEAKER_02 58:17

Actually, I did the same thing last year. I did. I don't know if you get any. I made a maple one last year, and that was really good.

SPEAKER_04 58:22

I might have had some of that.

SPEAKER_02 58:23

It was almost like a sticky.

SPEAKER_04 58:24

Because I mean, people see these pictures when we when we do limit out and have all this, and they're one, you know, a lot of people are wondering, are you gonna eat that? And we do, we do. And like that's something that I don't know if a lot of waterfowlers talk about is that's a little very when you add it up, like it's a lot of meat.

SPEAKER_02 58:38

Well, like that that amount of geese, like if you can picture those any hunter in here maybe can picture like those plastic meat tubs you see at a butcher shop or anything you buy at Bass Pro. Yeah, like the four inch deep one the lugs, four inch deep by whatever, eighteen, twenty inches long by a foot deep. That's like rounded with goose breasts. Oh, yeah. What's like when you're gonna have an average goose breast? Uh anywhere from a single breast, I've had as small as like three quarters of a pound. Like that. He didn't even hesitate. And as big as two and a half. It's a big breast. That's a that's a hunk of the big thing.

SPEAKER_01 59:11

So if you get so that you get two set of honkers, two breasts, then you got uh five pounds off a weed off one bird.

SPEAKER_02 59:16

Yeah, those are I mean, that's like the biggest I've ever seen because I actually like I saw that goose and like two breasts, you got half a mannequin there.

SPEAKER_04 59:24

Here, honey, put these in.

SPEAKER_02 59:25

Sell their inserts. But yeah, like I'm on average what we shoot, like I'm probably you're probably getting like two and a half pounds off a goose of breast.

SPEAKER_04 59:34

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 59:35

Two and a half to three, probably on average. We'll call it three.

SPEAKER_04 59:38

You hear a lot of people not liking geese either, but it's not because it's not good.

SPEAKER_02 59:42

Well, it's pretty shit.

SPEAKER_04 59:44

I I like duck a lot too. I'll say how I cook up duck and I don't cook, I make a mean bowl of Cheerios. I can I can do toast and sometimes popcorn if the microwave has the popcorn button on it. My cooking doesn't really go past that. Um my wife married me for my looks, not for my cooking. She's blind. No. Not legally.

SPEAKER_02 1:00:06

That's just what we figured. Yeah.

Ethics, Shot Materials, And Prices

SPEAKER_04 1:00:08

But uh with the duck, I'll tell you when I I shoot them, and then I'll just kind of cut them into the breasts. Shoot them and then retrieve them. And then I cut them into the breast into uh bite-sized pieces. I'll put that on a frying pan. Pretty small pieces. Well, it's big enough, Caleb. And uh I'll put that onto a frying pan with butter and cook it like that, and it's good. I love eating duck. I'll eat it.

SPEAKER_02 1:00:30

That's what you do, like the same way I do parches. Even partridge. Even in ducks. Even eating ducks, like if you have like even if you have three or four teal in there, when you take a bite, if like let's say you just have mallards in the teal.

SPEAKER_04 1:00:41

You have three or four teal, you have a bite.

SPEAKER_02 1:00:43

Yeah, they're chicken nuggets. Yeah. That's what comes off. That breast is a chicken nugget. Yeah. Like if you have mallards and teal in a pan and you don't know which is which when you just throw it on your plate, you can pick out the teal because it's so it's so tender. Yeah. It is so tender. But it's also like you literally pull out two chicken nuggets for breasts.

SPEAKER_04 1:01:02

But it's so small, but they are.

SPEAKER_02 1:01:07

It's not in pounds.

SPEAKER_04 1:01:08

But uh that's why like black duck can get a bit of a meal, and I like it too. Black duck, duck. I find it's fine.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:15

You like your wood ducks that you had this year? Wood ducks are good. Yeah. Actually, no, Jacob has.

SPEAKER_02 1:01:18

The smaller the duck, the tastier it is.

SPEAKER_04 1:01:20

I had one of them. It's like a white-tailed deer. Yeah. It's uh well, they're they're they eat acorns. They're mast fed w waterfowl. Poultry. I guess you could say. Kind of.

SPEAKER_02 1:01:35

Hers are corn fed.

SPEAKER_04 1:01:36

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:01:36

Yeah, like the gullet on a some ducks.

SPEAKER_04 1:01:39

Some of them are uh your local lagoon fed.

SPEAKER_02 1:01:41

Well, even like late season here, like how like I guess I've done I've seen them as like season, like when they first get here, you open up a breast and you have the fat on it. It's like it's pretty white. You get to the end of the season here, it is yellow. Like yellow yellow.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:55

Well, you can feel the corn kernels down a duck's neck.

SPEAKER_02 1:01:57

Oh, yeah, but you grab one, it's just like you could cut out like a full handful of corn just out of their throat when they come back.

SPEAKER_01 1:02:03

Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:02:03

Oh, it's nuts. Get a full meal.

SPEAKER_04 1:02:06

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:02:07

Popcorn. Popcorn.

SPEAKER_04 1:02:08

Popcorn, yeah. Yeah, just frying out the breasts.

SPEAKER_02 1:02:12

Goose is actually you know what? The other way I actually really like goose is like cook it like roast. Like slow, like slow cook it and do it like pulled, because it'll pull like really well.

SPEAKER_04 1:02:22

I don't love gooses so much, but some areas like ducks like a delicacy. Oh, big time.

SPEAKER_02 1:02:26

Like I've actually I've actually plugged a couple duck to actually make it properly, like score it and like skin side down in the pan a lot.

SPEAKER_04 1:02:32

You still skin and get like a real crispy.

SPEAKER_02 1:02:36

Like if you actually cook like duck breast properly, like restaurant duck breast.

SPEAKER_04 1:02:39

I know I'm doing it wrong. You guys don't have to say it directly.

SPEAKER_02 1:02:42

No, I'd bought it. You did tell us. I did it once just to try it because you see a cooking show, and it's like, oh, that's how you eat duck. So I did it one time. And like if you actually get like a crispy skin on it and cook it real properly, like it was good.

SPEAKER_04 1:02:51

Well, yeah, it's supposed to be a delicacy, like in restaurants and stuff like that. Oh, it's expensive.

SPEAKER_02 1:02:54

And then there's us just absolutely. Yeah. I'm like, oh yeah, I got we go to some fancy restaurant.

SPEAKER_04 1:02:59

We're literally just butchering it.

SPEAKER_02 1:03:00

Go to some fancy restaurant if you're like in Toronto or something. It's like, oh yeah, I got like I eat these all the time.

SPEAKER_04 1:03:06

Yeah.

Blind Banter, Pressure Shots, Misses

SPEAKER_02 1:03:06

I paid a lot less for them. I don't know if we did pay a lot less for them though.

unknown 1:03:12

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:03:13

Yeah. Factoring the decoys and blind.

SPEAKER_02 1:03:16

Hell of a lot more fun though. And even clearly. And we don't have like compared to like outfitters or guys in the States or anywhere else in Canada, probably like we don't have an elaborate setup.

SPEAKER_04 1:03:27

No, but it's not bad.

SPEAKER_02 1:03:29

We get well, we have a good setup, but like we have we have good money on decoys, like we did have nice decoys. But when you look at it, like it's a lot of money too when you say like we go to a field like even that day at John's.

SPEAKER_04 1:03:40

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:03:41

Between if you even exclude guns, there's probably$10,000 a g there's$10,000 a gear.

SPEAKER_04 1:03:45

Aaron Powell That's a pretty good setup. Not bad. I know there's some outfitters, I know they have like a ridiculous.

SPEAKER_02 1:03:50

Like we don't have a close trailer, but like if you just like if you had everything in the field, minus our shotguns.

SPEAKER_04 1:03:54

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:03:54

With shotguns, you're looking for 20 grand of stuff. Just sitting in the field with us, right? Not my shotgun.

SPEAKER_04 1:03:59

Not mine either. Some people's but uh yeah. But still, like it's it's not it's not overly uh cheap to get into.

SPEAKER_02 1:04:08

Well not when not when a shotgun shell is two fifty a shot.

SPEAKER_04 1:04:10

I don't think of it like that. I think about well, that was a lot, but anyways, here's my box. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:04:15

Yeah, I was like, damn, my 190-inch deer cost me$5 bullet. This is horseshit.

SPEAKER_04 1:04:20

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:04:20

It is horseshit.

SPEAKER_04 1:04:22

Well, especially in Canada, we definitely overpay for ammunition and we always get the leftovers.

SPEAKER_02 1:04:26

Well, like a stuff. A shitty box of waterfowl load right now is$35. Yeah. For like a three-inch whatever shot.

SPEAKER_04 1:04:33

Then you get into tungsten stuff. It's like$60. Oh, yeah.$70. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:04:37

I think heavy metals up seven.

SPEAKER_04 1:04:39

I don't know what's in tungsten, but there must be gold in there somewhere 'cause I doubt it because it's I doubt it because it's called tungsten.

unknown 1:04:45

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:04:45

Tungsten is tungsten.

SPEAKER_04 1:04:47

With gold, probably, because the price is gold blade tungsten. Yeah, the box that they're in is gold. But no, I mean it is pricey. It's it is what it is, I guess. But yeah. Uh we need to get better deals and ammunition here in Canada.

SPEAKER_02 1:05:03

But uh Yeah, rifle or waterfowl. Yeah, no rifle too. Even you go look at a go look at a box, it's like, oh geez, I'd like to buy a case, but a case is like six hundred dollars.

SPEAKER_04 1:05:12

Just wait. I mean, you guys got a good deal that time years ago when that store went out of business.

SPEAKER_02 1:05:16

Just Ryan.

SPEAKER_04 1:05:17

Are you still shooting ammo from that?

SPEAKER_02 1:05:19

How much do you have left? Do you have much left?

SPEAKER_04 1:05:21

A couple cases.

SPEAKER_02 1:05:22

You still have a couple cases left?

SPEAKER_04 1:05:23

What was it going for, Ryan? Do you remember?

SPEAKER_02 1:05:25

It worked out to be what, five bucks a box?

SPEAKER_01 1:05:27

Nine uh nine nine dollars. It so we bought uh twelve cases of ammo. I think at the time, this was a bunch of years ago, and it worked out to be about nine fifty a box, and they had a five dollar rebate.

SPEAKER_02 1:05:42

Man. Yeah, and and this is on per per box. And this and this is on Winchester side cloud. This is on Winchester Blind Side. 950 a box for Winchester Blind Side, which is now forty five.

SPEAKER_01 1:05:53

Split between uh we got half in three and a half inch number ones and half inch and half was uh three inch number ones. Yeah. Really good deal. There you go. You find a deal like that, you gotta buy a lot. Well, we're we can't we're at this.

SPEAKER_02 1:06:06

And even then that box was only twenty five dollars.

SPEAKER_04 1:06:08

And I found that deal in the ammunition for 20 gauge for rabbits and all that, and it w what was it, like twelve dollars a box, ten dollars a box or something? It's lead. That was a rabbit, and he had five boxes left, and like, I'll take them all. Yeah. Yeah, you find a deal, you gotta take it. No. Some people think we should, because we've had a hot topics debate on this before.

SPEAKER_01 1:06:30

Yeah, that's a that's a talk for another night. Yes.

Beads, Aiming, And Just Do It

SPEAKER_04 1:06:32

Everyone here agrees that using steel for waterfowl over water is o not only the law, but ethical. Fields. Yeah, I know. I think you should be able to use lead in cornfields. But I mean, it's still f it's it's waterfowl, so you know, they can't change it around. What do you think, Ryan? You're a farmer? I don't think it's a good thing.

SPEAKER_01 1:06:53

I have no problem with a steel shot.

SPEAKER_04 1:06:55

No.

SPEAKER_02 1:06:56

This is true.

SPEAKER_04 1:06:57

Yes. I know it's fine. It's just yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:07:00

I use herders.

SPEAKER_04 1:07:02

It puts it hurts them all, right? I used to see them I used to see their ammunition around a lot more. I don't want as much now, but it's under Winchester. Are they? Yeah. Okay. Yeah. No, it's uh like I said, it's been a good waterfell season, a lot of fun. And uh just, you know, how us all shooting the shit and joking around chatting in here, this is this is what it's like in the blind, and that's one of the big things I do like about the bird hunting.

SPEAKER_03 1:07:29

Yeah, you get interrupted in the blind a little more, but than this.

SPEAKER_04 1:07:32

Yeah, you do.

SPEAKER_03 1:07:33

You hope to be interrupted.

SPEAKER_04 1:07:34

It's a little louder too.

SPEAKER_03 1:07:36

No, we do get interrupted. You know, hope you do.

SPEAKER_02 1:07:39

We like the conversation is much different than what we're doing right here the whole time. It's a lot less appropriate. But then even you say, like, I don't know how many times Ryan's whispered something so stupid in my ear, and I'll make the stupidest noise out of a goose gull. I try I try to say something funny just to see if it meant he's like.

SPEAKER_04 1:07:55

I like playing the telephone game as we're like passing, like ducks are coming, ducks are coming. Dalton fired it and shot himself. I like I like playing the telephone game as we go down through the ground blinds, the layout lines. Yeah, so I mean that part's fun too.

SPEAKER_02 1:08:16

You know what my favorite act you know what probably one of my favorite parts about goose hunting is? Is when you're like one bird away from a limit and you pick one guy to shoot it. And he doesn't get it. Man, that's gotta be a lot. Like, I don't know how many times I've seen like didn't put their safety on or just misses two or forgot to load their gun. For a lot to load their gun. There is hardly like that would just feel almost like Yeah, like it's just it's usually just a guy that well, usually we pick you, Ken.

SPEAKER_01 1:08:44

No, no, it's usually whoever you take a note that hasn't hunted as much before. Exactly. So like And it's kind of it puts a lot of pressure on a pretty good thing.

SPEAKER_02 1:08:51

Because like me and you, it's usually never like me or you because we always go. We always we always just say, all right, you have this shot. But I just I imagine that feels just like Stanley Cup final pressure.

SPEAKER_00 1:09:00

No, yeah. You want to know what makes it feel like you were done.

SPEAKER_02 1:09:03

If you miss that shot, it'd be something we talk about in the next podcast. Like you're scared for life if you have that opportunity and miss that.

SPEAKER_01 1:09:09

Especially when you got five guys around you and just hauling.

SPEAKER_02 1:09:11

And literally all and sitting here with so much anticipation just to roast the shit out of you.

SPEAKER_03 1:09:17

What's even worse is when as a group there's a single that comes in, everybody shoots at it, and the single flies away.

SPEAKER_02 1:09:22

That doesn't happen.

SPEAKER_01 1:09:23

I've never seen that happen. I was hunting in a group this year that that happened with, but I didn't shoot because I said the rest of you guys got this. And all of them popped up and shot, and then I watched a bird fly. I didn't shoot either. I was like you were there, Logan. I was eating beef jerky, goose jerky. Caleb was shooting, though.

SPEAKER_04 1:09:43

Spoke up a little too much there, didn't you, Caleb?

SPEAKER_01 1:09:45

Well, that's alright. Everybody misses. Caleb also had didn't have the bead on the front of his gun that's gonna be a good one.

SPEAKER_04 1:09:49

So more than others. Yeah. You got a bead on there now? Nope. Okay. It'll probably work itself out. It's one of those problems that'll just fix itself and yes, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:09:59

It'll regrow, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:10:00

It's like uh lizard's tail.

SPEAKER_03 1:10:02

Just I've been looking for one at Bass Pro, but it's pretty hard to find a nice bead. Bead? Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:10:06

Or a gun.

SPEAKER_03 1:10:07

No, a bead.

SPEAKER_04 1:10:09

Well, Amazon.

SPEAKER_02 1:10:10

You know what you do? Take a number two shot out of a shell and super glue it.

Name The Mascot And Final CTA

SPEAKER_03 1:10:16

I've done that before. Let's say just take the welder and just tack a little bead on the end of her.

SPEAKER_01 1:10:21

Yeah, but you don't like like a nice true glow bead? I like the smallest bead possible.

SPEAKER_02 1:10:28

Like mine has a true one, but it's real small. And there is the answer.

SPEAKER_04 1:10:33

Brian, we've been over this. He's a runner. I just kind of I just point in the block direction. I I look up close by eyes and pull the trigger.

SPEAKER_02 1:10:43

I got a sod off shotgun and I just aim at the spread.

SPEAKER_04 1:10:46

Well, yeah. I know. I'd I'm trying to think when I am shooting. I don't know. I don't look at my bead much. I just look at the end of the street.

SPEAKER_01 1:10:52

You get any of that because you know, no, I know, but I don't seem to really notice the bead.

SPEAKER_04 1:10:57

Don't think, just do. I was gonna save my gun in here, it usually is.

SPEAKER_02 1:11:00

But um Yeah, don't think, just do.

SPEAKER_04 1:11:02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:11:03

I don't look at my bead either. I know what you mean.

SPEAKER_04 1:11:04

Oh no, I I I don't really notice it, though. I'd not like painting, oh, there's the bead, there's the goose. All right, put them together.

SPEAKER_02 1:11:10

Like, I don't know, just it's just time thing. Don't think, just do.

SPEAKER_04 1:11:15

Yeah, exactly. Um well boys, um beyond thrilled to have new mascot in here. And uh this has been fun.

SPEAKER_02 1:11:24

If any viewers didn't know, Ken has short legs.

SPEAKER_01 1:11:26

Should get your viewers to uh pick a name, message you a name. Yes. Yeah, top. Until then it's Ernie.

SPEAKER_02 1:11:32

Send him a free hat or something. Yeah, top vote.

SPEAKER_04 1:11:34

All right, yeah. Send me a name, I'll send you a hat. Alright. Until next time. Until next time. So if you're still listening and you made it this far, uh rating a review on Apple and Spotify would be much appreciated from you.