Ep.115 Trivia Night Challenge 8, Turkey Edition! Test Your Skills

Nobody walks into turkey season knowing everything, so we decided to make learning fun and a little competitive. We run a full round of wild turkey trivia with Dalton, Jesse, Curtis, and Ryan, and the best part is hearing the thought process when the answers are not obvious. If you like hunting stories, camp banter, and learning without getting lectured, you can play along and see how your turkey knowledge stacks up.

We hit the core wild turkey facts that actually stick: what counts as a major predator, where turkeys roost, and why nesting on the ground changes everything. Then we get into the turkey slam rabbit hole with North American wild turkey subspecies like Eastern, Osceola, Rio Grande, Merriam’s, and Gould’s, plus the kind of details that make you stop and say, “Wait, really?” like which subspecies runs tallest and which one grows the longest spurs.

The episode also goes deep on turkey senses and body language, including turkey eyesight, color vision, and the surprise that turkeys can detect UV light, which can make clean laundry a lot louder than you think. We talk “nature’s mood ring” head colors, the snood, and other weird anatomy that turns into real field awareness once you know what you’re looking at. We finish on a final curveball question, a one point win, and plenty of laughs along the way.

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SPEAKER_06 0:41

This is Hunts on Outfitting Podcast. I'm your host and rookie guide, Ken Mayer. I love everything hunting, the outdoors, and all things associated with it. From stories to how-tos, you'll find it here. Welcome to the podcast. Alright, thanks for tuning in to this week's podcast. You guys are in for a treat. You're gonna love it. It's turkey trivia. So if you're not into wild turkey hunting or turkeys at all in general, and you think, why would I listen to this? I'm telling you, you're gonna have fun, it's gonna be entertaining, and all the guys playing, they don't know anything about it. They know absolutely zero about wild turkeys, but they learn, we all learn together on this, and they're actually a really unique bird. Uh they're very cool, and those that hunt them know. So if you hunt them and you know a bit about them, feel free to play along. If you don't, also feel free to play along because the guys playing don't. It's all trivia, multiple choice, you're gonna be able to get it. So when I'm listening to something, I always wonder what do the people look like that are talking. So if you want to put a face to the voice on this picture, if you're looking at it, from the top left corner with the poor excuse for the mustache, we've got Dalton Patterson right below him with an actual mustache, sunglasses on the hat, that's Jesse L's. Next to him on the right in the blue, that is, of course, me, your humble and ever not knowing host, Ken Mayer. Next to me is Hunts and Opening Podcast, custom made riff by River's Edge Game Calls, Turkey Pot. Now, the boys win one. I'm not gonna say which group, obviously, yet. You guys ought to listen to find out, but it's so nice. It doesn't look like that one. This theirs has a turkey on it, but this is my custom one that I got from Kenneth McDonald River's Edge Game Calls. He ships all over North America, makes really great custom game calls, but in particular, turkey pot calls. Uh so right below me, give him the big thumbs up with the hoodie on there, no hat. We've got Curtis Knott. Curtis is brand new. This is his first ever time on the podcast. He is a fellow pro staff member with me for GK Calls. GK Calls. If you're looking for really nice uh goose calls, duck calls, and turkey box calls, check them out. They ship all over. We use their stuff and highly recommend it because it sounds very realistic. And then, last but certainly not least, with another thumbs up, we've got Ryan Wesalius, who is a regular of the podcast. Um, you guys are gonna enjoy this. So I recommend a Nookshuk dog food to a lot of people because I think it's great, it's gonna save you money in the long run because it's not as expensive as the other dog food that you're probably buying out there, and it's gonna keep your dog really good and healthy, and that is the only thing I feed my six dogs. But some people like, well, how do I transition them from my old dog food to a Nookshuk? Well, on Inukshuk on their website and on their Facebook page, they've got a chart there saying how much to feed the old food versus how much to feed with the Inukshuk, days one and two, three and four, five and six, etc. So that way you don't give your dog an upset stomach. So it's really helpful if you're looking to switch into Inuk, they're gonna give you that transition thing right there. And with turkey season and bear season here, if you're looking for new broadheads for your bow, uh hooligan archery, hooligan archery products. If you use code HUNTSON2026, all caps, all one word, you're gonna save some money at the checkout. So that's awesome. We all like saving money. And if you're looking for, you know, some new guns, new gear in your Canadian, check out the in print magazine that can be sent right to your door. The Canadian access to firearms, it's got all kinds of gear and firearms in there, it's got bows in there, it's got optics in there, it's telling you what gun shows are going on, ammo, etc. Knives, check it out. It's uh it's great to read. Nice morning, sip your coffee and have a look. All right, so I'm fired up. I'm really excited. Guys, gals, thanks for listening, and let's get to the trivia, meet the boys and carry on. Oh, and if you were looking to get a hold of us to maybe come on the podcast or suggest somebody for it, or just reach out to me, you can email me, huntsonoutfitting at gmail.com, or you can find us on Facebook, Hunts on Outfitting, or find myself on there, Ken Meyer. Feel free to reach out. Some of you guys have been, it's been great talking with you from all over. So I'm fired up, I'm happy to have you guys on this week's podcast. Before we get right into the podcast itself, we're gonna go around the room. You're gonna say who you are, what you do for work, and your knowledge of turkey hunting, turkeys, wild turkeys in general, because uh some of you guys have been on here before, some of you are new, so uh we're gonna start right here.

SPEAKER_02 5:50

We'll swing the mic over. Yeah. Yeah, so we just did our rounds here, but I'm Curtis Knott. Uh pretty new to New Brunswick. I've only been up here a couple years, originally from Cape Breton. Uh for work. I do forestry, I bounced around a couple of different places. Um went to school up in Fredericton at Ranger School and then got my degree in Forestry U and B.

unknown 6:11

Nice.

SPEAKER_02 6:12

So that's what I moved up here for. Took a different job and uh run Maritime Pursuit YouTube channel. Uh it's been mostly a focus on waterfowl lately.

SPEAKER_06 6:21

So if you could give like a commercial for it.

SPEAKER_02 6:24

A commercial?

SPEAKER_06 6:25

Yeah, for maritime pursuit.

SPEAKER_02 6:27

Uh big focus on waterfowl lately. Um, real, genuine, not blown out of the water, fake content is really what I'm looking for. Really trying to share what the sport is actually like, what it's like hanging out with your buddies.

SPEAKER_06 6:43

Bot guns and freaking ducks dropping.

SPEAKER_02 6:45

Well, just not over-glorified and over-cinematic. Like everybody likes those Sitka films that come out. Like I watch them myself. Like they're great. Yeah, like little short films.

SPEAKER_06 6:54

Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_02 6:55

But uh just super heavily produced, and you know you know, I I like that style, it looks good, but it's not really what it doesn't feel as genuine, doesn't really get that experience across, yeah.

SPEAKER_06 7:06

Yeah, yeah. Um, so yeah, you're you're this is your first time on the podcast, fired up. Happy to have you here. Um playing trivia. Never done this before. You're not like a sore loose or anything, are you?

SPEAKER_02 7:17

Did you check for the guns, Dalton? Yeah, he pat me down when I was gonna get it.

SPEAKER_06 7:20

Yeah, okay, well, you never know, right? Someone's like, Oh, I lost it, I no, uh I don't think that's not happened here.

SPEAKER_02 7:25

No, like I said, it's pretty heavy, pretty heavy in the waterfowl. I've been for about a decade now, and I'm from Cape Breton, so I have never cut my teeth with the uh with the turkey collin and the if you're from Cape Breton, you probably never brushed him either. Yeah, well, give me a couple more beer there and we'll see see how the accent is.

SPEAKER_06 7:43

I know I want I want it to come out.

SPEAKER_02 7:45

Give us like the most Cape Breton little saying you got like my mother's father's my sister, something I don't know, but like Oh, if I didn't know a couple people that were gonna listen to this, I could share some good Cape Breton accent stories, but we'll save that for more beer.

SPEAKER_06 7:58

Jesse, get the funnel. I want to hear that accent. Uh are you guys better than Newfoundlanders?

SPEAKER_02 8:03

Or yeah, well, we fell off the boat and just gonna float over.

SPEAKER_06 8:08

How far to where? Nope, see ya.

SPEAKER_02 8:09

Depends on where it's kind of wild how it's such a small island and there's like four completely different accent demographics. Like it's yeah, in the west, you get really gay like and then the in the in the east you get just pure gay. No, she she gets no lick on the end of it. She gets pretty thick, man, over there.

SPEAKER_06 8:29

But I know I love watching like on Discovery Channel Coldwater Cowboys, and like we're I think we're talking about this. They're speaking English, but they're subtitles. You know, it's like the Louisiana thing. It's like choot 'em. It's like the fuck is oh, he wants to shoot the alley. Okay, yeah. No, I like I like that. I love accents. Um, all right, cool. Yeah. So uh yeah, that's like yeah, I looked, I watched your maritime pursuit channel. I was like, that's pretty good, you know. Because for not having ten thousand dollar cameras and stuff like that, do you?

SPEAKER_02 8:55

No, man. Most of it's my phone and my DJI or my GoPro. Like I've been looking into getting um some more expensive equipment, but the problem with that is it costs a lot. Well, that, yeah, that's a problem. Yeah. And uh takes money. Like we do a lot of run and gunning freelance stuff. So it's great in the fields, like you can take out all your gear. But you know, when you're out in mucky, nasty, like just public land stuff, it's you have so much expensive equipment, and then you don't want to get it wet.

SPEAKER_06 9:25

More to pack, more to swing around, and it's the the big thing I've seen guys filming hunts like that is like uh like your tacticam or your shot can on the shotgun, that's probably lifesaver, right?

SPEAKER_02 9:36

That well I do I do have a tacticam. Uh I take it on and off. It's uh it's not as good of a mount as the shot cam has. It's more of a claw, so it really scratches like all the seracode off your barrel.

SPEAKER_06 9:46

Oh yeah, yeah. But it helps getting the for getting the shot with camera.

SPEAKER_02 9:51

Yeah. Right? Yeah. Yeah. The big game changer for me has been like the time lapse on the new DGIs and the GoPro. I can just leave it on constantly. Oh, it's like it's like a um dash game. Like it's got a one-minute loop constantly, so I'll shoot my bird and then I can actually hit the button. Like like I said, if you're in field and you know they're coming, you have a little more preparation, but you know, you're water ducks coming in with some water. No, it's helped out a lot. Like, like I said, it's run and gun stuff, so I'm still figuring it out. Like I find every three or four videos I put out, I'll look back and I'll still see how fireworks come. So I think the the quality's getting a lot better. And it's one of those things I wanted to do. Everybody's watched Canada Rough when they're like eight years old, and they're like, ah, I'd love to do that someday. So this is my version of doing that.

SPEAKER_06 10:42

No, it's good and it's uh it's cool, and you've got that preserved and it's tough to do. So yeah. Um, yeah, so first one the podcast, a couple things. One, make sure you're talking into the mic, and two, watch your language. All right, fucking rights. Second to go. I'm Dalton. Oh, wait, go back to Curtis for a second. Okay. Curtis, did we say what how much do you know about wild turkeys?

SPEAKER_02 11:02

Uh yeah, so like I said, I'm from Cape Breton, so not a whole lot of exposure. I've only been in New Brunswick for a couple years. It's pretty green.

SPEAKER_06 11:09

Okay. Alright. Yeah, fair enough.

SPEAKER_05 11:11

Well, I'm Dalton, and I make powdered milk for a living. And uh yeah, the fire department, I guess it's not much of a living.

SPEAKER_06 11:20

Call him Dalton Ping Pong Patterson. He's always ping-ponging back and forth between fires and milk.

SPEAKER_05 11:24

Um my turkey knowledge is pretty much zero.

SPEAKER_06 11:29

We'll say minimal.

SPEAKER_05 11:30

I've seen a lot of them.

SPEAKER_06 11:31

Okay. In the store.

SPEAKER_05 11:34

No, I've seen some wild turkeys. Uh it's been all I got. Okay. Curtis, I don't know.

SPEAKER_02 11:40

Yeah, well, we still have some underdog luck going on there.

SPEAKER_05 11:44

I just want to be yeah, I just want to win.

SPEAKER_06 11:45

All right. Uh Dalton, you've been on a pretty good stuff. Dalton's been on a winning streak with the trivia's lately. Uh which brings us to reuniting teammates who are looking for a second chance to redeem themselves. Ryan, go ahead.

SPEAKER_04 11:57

Uh Ryan, I'm a dairy farmer. And my knowledge of turkeys is basically zero as well. I've watched hunting shows, I guess, where they hunt them.

SPEAKER_05 12:09

Have you read the wild turkey fact sheet on the GMB website?

SPEAKER_04 12:12

I didn't know there was one.

SPEAKER_05 12:14

To apply. Yeah, the sheet. Oh, yeah, to apply. I read that I know.

SPEAKER_04 12:17

Oh, for that. Yes, that's that's the extent of my knowledge. And listening to Ken's obsession, rambling on about them all the time.

SPEAKER_06 12:23

Oh, yeah. I'm uh I'm a new found lover of turkeys. Uh Jesse.

SPEAKER_03 12:28

Uh, my name's Jesse Ells. I'm also in the forestry world, I'm a forest technician, and I run around the woods lots.

SPEAKER_06 12:35

I feel like you're just saying that to fit in now.

SPEAKER_03 12:37

A lot of wood lovers. Yeah, I don't see too many turkeys. Uh I've applied every year, never got the license. I did pass the test to be able to apply, so that's my knowledge on fire.

SPEAKER_05 12:48

Okay. Um, so you guys uh even playing field, right?

Teams Prize And Trivia Rules

SPEAKER_06 12:51

Yeah, I invited you guys out for a turkey podcast. No one knows a thing about turkeys. So uh no, and that's okay. And I want to stress, you know, just because people think you guys are dumb doesn't mean you are. Possibly, but no, it's because no, it if people listen to this, like I don't know anything about turkeys either. That's okay, because you guys are gonna learn a lot, and I'm really excited for it. And then you guys are probably wondering, what are we playing for? And as usual, we've got a really great call by our call sponsor for the trivia, River's Edge Game Calls, out of Keswick Ridge, New Brunswick, Kenneth McDonald, great guy, even a better name, okay? From one Kenneth to another, we love the call. So this is a turkey scratch pot call, is custom made with love, one of a kind. He has others like this because there's another one that you know, whatever team wins is each gonna get one. Um, but this is all of them are handmade, so all of them are a little different because you don't know what his hands were like when he's making them. So I'm gonna see if I can scratch it a bit and see if it'll work. Um that's what you guys are playing for. I've got one from him. I love it. I didn't know, so I've got my Hun Sun Outfitting podcast logo on the back of it. And then uh remember when he came over here and I did a podcast with him, he took it, scratched the shit out of it, and they gave it to me. Like, okay, I'm like, not okay. He just scratched off my new call. Um, but then but it's glass, and that's when I realized you have to scratch them. You gotta scratch them to make them because that's how you get the tone of it on the glass ones. Anyways, I've never used slates. Slates are easier to use, but they're not as cool as glass, and I find the glass have a nice sharper pitch to them. Uh, so that's what you guys are playing for. It's uh Kenneth McDonald, River's Edge Game Calls. You can find them online on Facebook. He ships all over Canada and the U.S. He makes really nice custom buck grunts, he makes turkey uh pot calls, he makes turkey diaphragm calls, he makes predator calls, uh crow calls, all kinds of stuff. Really great craftsmanship, and uh he's great to deal with. I know one guy, I don't know what he did, he sat on it or something, his his glass for his call, he slipped or whatever. I don't know. And uh I sent it to Kenneth, no charge. Kenneth sent it back with uh brand new glass on it and everything, so you know, pretty good. So um, yeah, it's springtime, and uh you know what that means. Dalton's gonna need help shaving his back soon. Uh so a lot of people, it's on their mind, and it's been on my mind too. Besides Spring Bear, we've got on on our mind. Uh we've no, we've got turkey hunting. We've got turkey hunting on our mind. Uh so that's why we have turkey trivia. You guys gonna learn a lot, and I'm fired up to uh to do this. So I'm gonna say who the teams are. So here are the teams. So we've got team putt versus team strut. So team putt, uh, because turkeys putt and strut, they put they make like putt noises with their mouth and they strut with their body. Uh we've got uh our Ryan and Jesse, old RJ, on Team Putt. For Team Strut, we've got Dalton and Curtis. I feel like your hair kind of gives you that strut look. I'm intimid as a bald person, I'm intimidated by people with hair like that.

SPEAKER_02 16:12

I'm getting there, man. The last year, it's starting to come out my hands in the shower. Really? Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 16:16

That might be a medical issue.

SPEAKER_02 16:20

Yeah, that's nothing to do with my my former employment.

SPEAKER_06 16:23

Oh, that's crazy. I live next to a nuclear power plant. It's been wild. Um, yeah. I know it's like my brother-in-law. I don't think he listens to these, maybe. Anyways, he's like, he's like trying to hold on to it. I was like, brother. Uh not actual brother. I was like, yeah, that'd be weird. It's not we're not like blood related, just through our mother. No. Um, I was like, you you've got to shave it. I said, just stop holding on to it. It's going. It's gone. It's gone. What you have a comment, Dalton? Dalton's trying to grow mustache.

SPEAKER_05 16:51

Dalton's doing pretty good now. It took a while, but called a lot of names to get here. So yeah. Um showed it to my wife.

SPEAKER_06 17:02

Is that where you got your mustache from?

SPEAKER_05 17:04

No, she uh she made some comments early on that were quite hurtful.

SPEAKER_06 17:08

So but you wish you could grow one like this.

SPEAKER_05 17:10

I'm not gonna say what they were on a podcast.

SPEAKER_02 17:14

Growing a mullet, you grow through about six months of pure pain before you get to an acceptable level of it.

Predators Species And Early Points

SPEAKER_06 17:20

Your wife, though. I don't know if the acceptable level ever comes with a mullet, but um I don't think you'll ever have to worry about a mullet. Well, I can grow it in the back. Um anyway, so this is it. Uh, for those of you that this is your first time listening to our trivia, I think this is seven or eight. Uh, this is how it works. I have some questions for you guys. Um, I will give you the amount of time in my head that I feel it should take you to answer it. If you guys get it wrong, the other team can take it. If that team uh ends up getting it right, they get the point. You guys do not lose a point for them doing that. And um these are all on some people, you're like, oh, that's not true. I got them all off Google. Okay, so off the internet, so obviously it's true. Just got it from the internet, straight off the Wikipedia page. Straight off the yeah, straight off Google image. And I just kind of made up everything in my head. Um, so who wants to start? You guys are gonna learn a lot, it's gonna be interesting. Teen putts? Alright, teen putts. We got old RJ, Ryan, and Jesse. What is considered to be the wild turkey's greatest uh predator? Is it A, the coyote, B, the Bobcat, C, crows slash ravens, or D, hawks slash owls. So you see, I had two bird groups there.

SPEAKER_03 18:43

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 18:46

I'm thinking we could probably take crows and ravens out of it right away.

SPEAKER_03 18:52

Sure, I agree with that. Yeah. Automatically, I just think coyote. Bobcat's pretty sneaky.

SPEAKER_04 19:00

I would almost take maybe a see because this is wild turkey across all of their areas. Yeah. That's true. And because the coyotes here are big, like they would have an easy time, but maybe a bobcat would be more, but I don't know. So what was the other bird that you said?

SPEAKER_06 19:18

So we got crows slash ravens, hawks slash owls. What is considered to be the wild turkey's greatest predator?

SPEAKER_04 19:26

I know the like a hawk, they really mess with like pheasants and stuff like that.

SPEAKER_03 19:30

Yeah. I've seen one kill a bird like a loon once when I was canoeing down the river, just swooped and broke its neck.

SPEAKER_06 19:38

That's pretty wild.

SPEAKER_03 19:39

Yeah, it was pretty cool to see.

SPEAKER_06 19:40

Huh. I like loons.

SPEAKER_03 19:42

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 19:42

Shoot your local owl. Any of them.

SPEAKER_04 19:47

It's so it's so tough because you have to be more than just like locally here.

SPEAKER_03 19:51

Yeah, I know. All of them are good answers.

SPEAKER_06 19:53

Yeah, so yeah, within North America, obviously.

SPEAKER_03 19:55

Within yeah, well within their range, yeah. So uh Yeah, they all sound like good answers. Uh I don't know. Maybe a bobcat, kinda. Cats are pretty vicious, sneaky. But then the bird can come out of nowhere and kill them. Well, an owl can take them on the roost. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 20:21

And a hawk could mess with the the babies a lot too. Yeah, let's go with the birds.

SPEAKER_06 20:25

It's kind of the underdog here. Kind of like the team answering.

SPEAKER_04 20:30

Sure, we'll go with that.

SPEAKER_06 20:31

You guys are going with that?

SPEAKER_04 20:32

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 20:32

Well, guess who's uh gonna be getting a mark put on the board first? I'm not sure, not you guys, because that's wrong.

SPEAKER_00 20:39

Oh, of course.

SPEAKER_06 20:40

Okay, so we're going to team Strut. What is considered to be the wild turkey's greatest predator? A coyote, B, Bobcat, C, Crows or Ravens. We know what's not D.

SPEAKER_02 20:52

Yeah, I feel like we got it on a 50-50 here.

SPEAKER_06 20:56

One out of three.

SPEAKER_02 20:57

I feel like Bobcats are sneaky little fuckers. Well, it's Bobcat.

SPEAKER_05 21:02

And they they climb well, okay. Where does it turn the crows and sorry?

SPEAKER_02 21:06

Yeah, we're gonna have to get close here. We're sharing the mic. Um, that's close enough, boys. It has to be between those two. Now I watched a documentary million years ago, and when he kind of read the uh question here, I was like, Oh, I know this answer. And uh the answer they gave on the documentary was not in his list. So what was it? Uh it was it was uh fox actually, and the second one was raccoons because just during nesting season they just they take the so many eggs.

SPEAKER_05 21:34

Eggs, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 21:34

Not okay.

SPEAKER_05 21:35

So here's what I was gonna ask. This is attacking turkeys. A turkey well, it's attacking turkeys.

SPEAKER_06 21:41

Yeah, forget the eggs.

SPEAKER_05 21:42

Oh, forget the eggs. Fuck. Well, now I really don't know. Because I was gonna say the nests are they on the ground or are they in a tree? Because I wouldn't fucking know.

SPEAKER_06 21:53

We're gonna learn about that.

SPEAKER_02 21:55

Well, it's I'd say it's fifty fifty here now because they took one of the bird out. Answers, so I'm gonna assume that crows and ravens, unless Ken's trend sneaky went on, is probably not in there.

SPEAKER_05 22:08

Well, if it's not the eggs, then I can't imagine it's crows and ravens because they're probably not gonna take down a full-size turkey. Fuck, I don't know, because they're there's coyotes everywhere.

SPEAKER_02 22:20

Yeah. There's coyotes everywhere, but to me, if either this is my thought process anyway. If a if a turkey's gonna get taken by either a bobcat or a coyote, it's probably gonna be close to the edge. I don't think a coyote's gonna run them down through the field. I feel like getting that first pounce from the edge into an opening would probably be a bobcat, just quicker in the short run. But like I said, I'm pretty green in this.

SPEAKER_06 22:43

Hey, your first podcast though, you're doing good because I want people to show their work out loud. You're doing good on that.

SPEAKER_05 22:48

I think I think the bobcat is is is right. Let's you want to go with that? Yeah, we'll lock her in.

SPEAKER_06 22:54

Final answer, the bobcat.

SPEAKER_02 22:55

Yeah, yep, we'll go with it.

SPEAKER_06 22:57

Yeah, it is the bobcat coming for blood already. So, yeah, so the the bobcat is by far the greatest predator to them, followed by crows and ravens who go after the eggs and the young, though. They'll pick off polts, crows will, and ravens. That's what I just said. But they will they'll when they're out in the field and stuff, they will swoop down and take them out. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 23:20

More than birds of prey, eh?

SPEAKER_06 23:21

Uh they'll take it a lot, depending on how many crows and ravens are in the area, because I know some areas where we hunt where I've hunted turkeys stuff, there's a lot around, and they will put a beating on them. So you can shoot crows, so definitely shoot your local crow. Uh the bobcats are known to often scale trees and take roosted birds. There have been videos of large flocks of turkeys actually chasing off these cats in the day, but yeah, so Dalton, to answer your question, turkeys always roost up in the trees at night unless they're laying on eggs. Yeah. And I think that's like 25 to 31 days.

SPEAKER_05 23:50

And the bobs are on the ground or the eggs?

SPEAKER_06 23:52

The eggs are on the ground. Okay. Yep. The ground nesting birds. So that's why the raccoons are a problem stuff too. But uh, yeah, there people, I guess it's been documented, bobcats going up trees at night and taking out turkeys. Because remember one time there's an area where we were hunting with the coon hounds, and I was driving along, and I could hear all this, it sounded like I was driving on rocks, and I kept looking down, like I'm driving in a field on grass, and it I keep there's anyways. Finally, we figured out it was a shit ton of turkeys flying off because the hounds were just screaming in the back. And um it was it was later at night, and then the hounds ended up getting on a bobcat that night, and we were guessing he was probably stalking the turkeys where they were roosted and gonna go up after them. So yeah. Interesting. So it says the bobcat is by far the greatest. Um you hear a lot of stories too, where I've read some about guys, especially in the States where they're you know, full camel, they're doing the turkey calls and all that, and they've been attacked by Bobcat. You do hear about that. I've read it in hunting magazines and stuff.

SPEAKER_05 24:49

Yeah, I watched a real tree video one time. They actually shot a coyote.

SPEAKER_06 24:52

Yeah, commanded out of the turkey.

SPEAKER_05 24:54

I've seen that, I've seen that video too, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 24:56

Or maybe probably not the same one, but a video.

SPEAKER_05 24:58

It was a hunting video. It was like it was a full video, and yeah, the coyote came out and dropped it with the shotgun.

SPEAKER_04 25:03

Yeah, kind of like came. Was it one that it came like running down a path? Yeah, probably the same one I seen. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 25:08

Glad you didn't uh remember that story before we answered the question. Thank fuck. Might have changed the answer.

SPEAKER_06 25:14

Uh so we are still on team Strut. Um this one, yeah, we're gonna get it. We're you guys are gonna get into some stuff that you're gonna be uh doing some learning. Uh so how many distinct species of turkey are there in the world? A one B two C three or D five. Bingo! Just kidding, that's what it sounded like.

SPEAKER_02 25:46

I thought there was four. Uh there's five or six, because there's two that are in Mexico alone. It's it there's four just in North America. It's I'm gonna say five. Well, let's there's Easterns.

SPEAKER_05 26:02

Marians, Mariam, Marian, Mariam, Mariam.

SPEAKER_06 26:06

Boys, I'm gonna read the question one more time.

unknown 26:08

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 26:09

How many distinct species of turkey are there in the world?

SPEAKER_02 26:14

Alright, can I ask a question here first? We're not calling we're not doing subspecies. Are you talking subspecies or species? Nice. I'm talking species. Okay, then it's one because I want three. I know wild turkeys. You guys are gonna start learning some stuff here. Wild turkeys can breed with domestic turkeys, I'm pretty sure. So if that means they're the same species. And you repeated the question, so I'm gonna say we were probably going down the wrong track. But whatever you think, if it if it's species, I'm gonna say one. I did help you guys out there. I don't know what's your thought process there.

SPEAKER_05 26:51

Well, thinking greed, you're right. I I feel like it's one as well.

SPEAKER_02 26:55

Well, they can hybridize, right?

SPEAKER_05 26:58

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 26:58

Hybrids, yeah. So to my knowledge.

SPEAKER_06 27:02

Uh I I'll say this. I don't know if the species can. I know the subspecies can. Can be hybrids.

SPEAKER_02 27:17

I didn't like that.

SPEAKER_06 27:19

So how many does I I gave you guys a big help because I liked the road you guys were like going down, like, whoa, there's this and there's that, and I'm like, here's a teachable moment. Um gonna pump the brakes and put you through the windshield on that one. So, yes, how many distinct species of turkey are there in the world? One, two, three, or five. I'm gonna answer here shortly, boys.

SPEAKER_05 27:51

I don't know. You honestly just pick one.

SPEAKER_02 27:54

It's multiple choice. It's one or two. Like we might get screwed up with some sort of uh domestication thing going on, but you wanna you wanna go too?

SPEAKER_06 28:07

You guys going too? Yes, locking it in. Like you guys are locking in another mark on the board. Yes, sir. Good call. Jeez. I didn't know how big of a hint. Well, I I thought with distinct species, you guys you guys are going into subspecies, and then that's why I wanted to read it again, because I didn't want to completely screw you guys up right off the hop. Um, so yes, so it is two. The two main species of turkey are the wild turkey found at a liquor store near you. No, um, the wild turkey, it's the common large turkey found across US, Mexico, and Canada. And then, see, I learned this. I didn't know this either. This taught me something. And then there's the oscillated turkey, a smaller, brightly colored and iridiscent, uh, which means they can change colors depending on the light species restricted to the Yucatan peninsula. And I'll give a bonus point if someone can tell me where the Yucatan Peninsula is. Shout it out. Florida. That's a Mexico. No. What part of Mexico?

SPEAKER_02 29:09

Oh, that's as far as I always uh the Yucatan Peninsula.

SPEAKER_04 29:13

Oh. What was the what was the kind again?

SPEAKER_06 29:17

The oscillated. You're thinking Osceola.

SPEAKER_04 29:19

Osseola. Oh, that's what I was thinking. Yeah. Oscillated. That's right.

SPEAKER_06 29:22

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 29:22

In so we got a guess somewhere in in Mexico.

SPEAKER_06 29:25

Yeah, north, east, south or west. Uh I'm gonna say north. Nope. East. Nope. Uh we'll leave it at that. Uh it's uh southeastern. Uh yeah, so anyway, I found that interesting. So there's the wild turkey, and then there's the oscillated one. And that yeah, they're only in the Yucatan peninsula. That's it. The only place you'll find them. So, yeah, kind of interesting.

SPEAKER_05 29:48

All right, now you know how I come up with that answer? No, because I knew we wouldn't ask it if there was one. Because it wouldn't make any sense. So I was like, well, it had to be two.

SPEAKER_02 29:57

Process of elimination. That was it, man.

SPEAKER_05 29:59

Honestly, that was it.

Subspecies Names And Key Differences

SPEAKER_06 30:00

But it worked. Okay, so team putt. Turkeys can swim. True. No, that wasn't a question. I just wanted to tell you, I just wanted to tell you guys that. Yeah, because I read that earlier and I thought that was interesting.

SPEAKER_04 30:17

Jesse was quick on that, though.

SPEAKER_06 30:19

Uh yeah, so yeah, turkeys can swim. Uh, they uh they tuck their feathers in a bit and they could just go along with their feet. I just wanted to tell you guys that. Yeah, it's pretty neat. Okay, so question. How many subspecies of North American wild turkey are there? A, five, B, six, C, eight, or d ten. We're going into the subspecies. So if you guys know the many, try timing. Try try naming them out.

SPEAKER_03 30:49

They helped us out a little bit by saying five or six. Yeah, so I don't know the answer, but they did say five or six. So uh if there's more than they know, then it's higher than that. But if they're right, then we can take a guess from there.

SPEAKER_06 31:01

I'm trying to get you guys on the board here.

SPEAKER_03 31:03

Yeah, we're not real good at that. They just got lucky though.

SPEAKER_04 31:06

Uh I've I'm going with six. You were thinking six, I was thinking five.

SPEAKER_03 31:16

Wow. Can you remember any of the ones I said?

SPEAKER_04 31:19

Well, he's there's the eastern one which are here. Yeah, I knew that one. Dalton mentioned something about a Marion. Oh, look at me.

SPEAKER_03 31:26

He said that's an Osceola.

SPEAKER_04 31:28

Yeah, there's that. Uh that's worth three. That wasn't it.

SPEAKER_06 31:33

The other ones you guys might have a tired time. If you're not into turkeys, these are not that well.

SPEAKER_04 31:40

Are the other two or other three hard to get? Only one nose.

SPEAKER_03 31:46

I like it. You're getting a point? So we have to figure out what we're gonna do here.

SPEAKER_04 31:53

Do we go with the five? I'm trying to think where we're where we pick. So I know Ken has talked about they're going on an elk trip and he wants to hunt the the Miriam turkey there. He's always talked about that. Hopefully. The I just go on about all the stuff I've heard him talk about. I know he said something. Something was in Florida. Yeah, the eastern's here. So there has to be another turkey somewhere like down in the southern part of the states or something like that. So like because Miriam's like up on the yeah, like that's wherever they're Idaho, wherever they're going. So we're sitting certified that we know about yeah. Do we go with that? Or do we go with six?

SPEAKER_03 32:45

I uh I'm gonna put it this one on you.

SPEAKER_04 32:48

Uh I'm thinking five because he put that on the last question to maybe mess with them. Because that was subspecies.

SPEAKER_03 32:56

Number five.

SPEAKER_06 32:57

Yeah. Number five. Ah. Team Strut. I'm just kidding. You guys got it.

unknown 33:07

We got a point.

SPEAKER_06 33:09

You guys are on, yeah. So um, it's actually pretty close. So, yeah, so what bones were we missing? Uh, so this might be a little harder. So there's the eastern, the most numerous and widely distributed, found in the eastern U.S. and into Canada. Then you've got the Osceola. It's smaller and darker than easterns, found only in Florida. And I think it's only like the southern part of Florida, but it's only in Florida. Then there's the Rio Grande, Rio Grande, or Rio anyway, it's the Rio, the Rio Turkey, known for traveling, inhabiting the plains of Texas, Oklahoma, and Kansas. So you guys missing that one. The Mariams, you did have that, inhabits the mountainous regions of the West with lighter, buff-colored tail feathers. And then there's the goulds. The goulds found primarily in northern Mexico and southern Arizona, New Mexico.

SPEAKER_04 33:57

I guess I've heard you talk about that one too before.

SPEAKER_06 33:59

So the Rio and Goulds are, you know, it's a little not as well known, right?

SPEAKER_04 34:04

Yeah, yeah. I knew I was missing something because I know I've heard you talk about like the turkey slam and all that stuff multiple times, and that one of them had to be shot down there.

SPEAKER_06 34:13

Yeah, so that's uh yeah, that's the that's the that's one one of the shot one in New Mexico or something like that. So yeah, the Eastern, Osceola, Rio, Marions, and Goulds. Okay. So Team Strut. What is the tallest of the five subspecies? Not the heaviest, the tallest. The eastern, the osseola, the Rio, the Mariums, the Goulds. I know this is gonna be a complete crapshoot for you guys. But maybe think about where they live, if that has anything to do with it, stuff like that.

SPEAKER_02 34:52

I think it's either the Rio or the Mariums. I know Eastern's the biggest. They're the heaviest. That's what I was gonna say. He gives the distinction between heaviest and tall, so I'm gonna rule out Eastern.

SPEAKER_06 35:08

Since you guys are down to four, I'll tell you that's not the Eastern. Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 35:13

So it's still between which ones?

SPEAKER_06 35:16

So the Osseola.

SPEAKER_05 35:17

No, no, no. We got her. I'm just asking Chris.

SPEAKER_02 35:21

Uh the Osceola live like in the Everglades. I'm gonna say there's not much advantage to being a big tall bird out there. My initial thoughts. I feel like it'd be pretty thick. It's a lot of neck to get wrapped up around on things.

SPEAKER_05 35:41

Is there more advantage to being able to see a snake or a crocodile? Right? Because the Rios would be right.

SPEAKER_02 35:50

Yeah, it's it's gonna be a crapshoot either way. Uh I don't think it's a ghoul, so fuck them, Mexican turkeys.

SPEAKER_05 36:01

Uh I don't know.

SPEAKER_00 36:07

You look like a Mexican with your mustache. Fuck off.

SPEAKER_04 36:11

Can you just change yours? Yeah, Mexican over here. Yeah, Mexican.

SPEAKER_06 36:14

Yeah, well, I didn't know if the ice stuff was gonna come this side of the border. So better safe than sorry.

SPEAKER_05 36:19

Some of us are taller than Mexicans.

SPEAKER_02 36:22

I don't want to do too much thought process here because I know this is I feel like we're gonna get it down to two, and it's gonna be a very easy steal. Just gonna like what you guys did with the first question, I suppose.

SPEAKER_06 36:33

So we have a coming, but you got the Alceola Rio Marion's Goulds. The Eastern's the heaviest, but it's not the tallest.

SPEAKER_02 36:46

Good night, answer, boys. I'm gonna guess Rio as well. Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 36:50

Rio? Tay, your guessing is gonna get you nowhere because that is not it. Um, alright. Team Putt. So you guys uh you guys got it between three. The Ossiola, the Marions, or the Goulds. Which one's the tallest?

SPEAKER_04 37:08

I have a little different thought process on that than them. I don't think it is the Ossi Osseola. I don't think it's that one.

SPEAKER_03 37:18

And the other one's a gould?

SPEAKER_04 37:20

A gould or Mariams. Merriam's.

unknown 37:23

Okay.

SPEAKER_03 37:24

So where are the do you know where the goulds and merriums are from?

SPEAKER_04 37:26

Merriams are Mexico, New Mexico, that area. And no, Mariams are mountain birds. Oh Mary, sorry, I have that opposite. Goulds are the ones that are south, and the Mariums are the mountain ones. Yeah. I think it's the goulds, personally. Okay. And for the reason they're in, I don't think it's they're in like I feel like it's not I don't know. I feel like they're like a tall, lanky bird. Like they're more of like a roadrunner. I don't know too much about them, so they're they're probably in like more of like a like a deserty area where they need to actually go fast. I don't know. That's that was my thought press process on it.

SPEAKER_03 38:08

Makes sense to me.

SPEAKER_06 38:09

I like the road running.

SPEAKER_04 38:11

It's a pretty good theory. Because the the Merriams, I think they look close to an eastern turkey, but they're smaller. Am I right with that, Ken?

SPEAKER_06 38:21

Uh they they look the way their feathers are.

unknown 38:24

No, fuck off.

SPEAKER_04 38:25

Well, I'm not saying how tall or short they are or whatever. Shit, I was really hoping to get that out of them.

SPEAKER_06 38:30

No, they're they're somewhat similar, but the color of their feathers is almost a little bit like almost like your domestic turkey. You're bright, like your uh, what do they call them? Those golden ones there, the red bourbon, bourbon ones or whatever.

SPEAKER_03 38:42

So you're saying they're just like a skinnier, taller bird.

SPEAKER_06 38:44

I'm not saying the height or weight of them. I think I think go with Gould.

SPEAKER_03 38:49

That's fine. Yeah, yeah, let's go with it.

SPEAKER_06 38:51

You guys going with Gould? Sure. You guys are going with a tie for this. Yeah.

unknown 38:57

Really?

SPEAKER_06 38:57

It is the gould. So it's a good thing. Are they like a roadrunner?

SPEAKER_02 39:02

So after the roadrunner theory really put it into perspective there.

Alaska Exception And Quickfire Facts

SPEAKER_06 39:06

I just thought it was, but I haven't heard I haven't heard the word roadrunner in a long time. Um, yeah, so the Goulds Turkey, it is the tallest but has the smallest population. It was first described in 1856 in northern New Mexico. Or sorry, northern Mexico. Uh it doesn't say why it's tall, but it is. It is the tallest. They actually are a pretty big bird. I've seen videos of them like coming down the road and all that, and like running cruising. Anyways, you'd swear they're sent by El Chapo himself, he's just like going down. They look like a bunch of what do they look like? Uh they're kind of ugly. They're they're they are tall, they've got really big feet on them. And trying to think, I think they're like they're quite dark colored from what I can remember seeing. I haven't paid much attention to them because I don't think you'll ever be hunting them. Maybe someday. But um, yeah. Okay, so you guys are tied up, and this is actually perfect because this question here I wrote down both sides can uh can answer at the same time.

SPEAKER_04 40:04

Whoever gets it first?

SPEAKER_06 40:06

Yeah, so I want each race? Can you silent their mic for a second?

SPEAKER_04 40:09

So I want each side.

SPEAKER_06 40:12

I I'm gonna I'm gonna read the qu this is actually funny that we're tied up and that this question is here right now.

SPEAKER_04 40:17

Like, what are the odds? So Is it like just can we have rounds?

SPEAKER_06 40:22

I'm gonna say it. I'm gonna say it. Yep. And I want someone from each one side of both of you guys can go eh, and whoever I hear say it first, you tell me the answer.

SPEAKER_04 40:31

If you get it wrong, can you guess again?

SPEAKER_06 40:33

No. Oh if you get it wrong, then the right.

SPEAKER_05 40:36

Okay, if you get it wrong, can we go back and forth a couple times unless we say fuck it, we have no idea.

SPEAKER_06 40:40

Yep. So whoever says eh first, they get to answer. Yeah. And then after that, we'll we'll go to the other side and then we can go back and forth, okay?

SPEAKER_05 40:48

Okay.

SPEAKER_06 40:49

So wait till I say the last word is accept. Okay. When after I say accept, you guys can have adder, okay?

SPEAKER_00 40:58

Okay.

SPEAKER_06 41:00

Wild turkeys are found in every state except Alaska. Correct. He did that's fast. That was fast.

SPEAKER_05 41:09

Yep. Yeah. I don't make the siren myself. Yeah, there's actually just a mic and a fire truck in your dog.

SPEAKER_06 41:22

If you did, I'd be setting a lot more fires. Another grass fire. Yeah, but it's worth it. Listen to Dalton coming.

SPEAKER_02 41:30

So which one's in Mexico? I'm assuming it was introduced. Or not Mexico, sorry, Hawaii.

SPEAKER_06 41:35

Hawaii?

SPEAKER_04 41:36

Uh that I even forgot about Hawaii.

SPEAKER_06 41:38

That was which one is that?

SPEAKER_04 41:40

Rio?

SPEAKER_06 41:42

I didn't even write. No, not Rio. No, there's that's like Texas, Oklahoma, Kansas.

SPEAKER_02 41:46

It's been just introduced there, but was it? That's what I'm thinking, because otherwise they'd be another subspecies.

SPEAKER_06 41:51

I think it's it says it says that it's in it's the only state is Alaska, allegedly. That's what it says. I'm not sure what's in Hawaii. Um, I think it's kind of Rio.

SPEAKER_05 42:01

The Rio.

SPEAKER_06 42:02

Really? I'm shocked.

SPEAKER_05 42:04

According to AI.

SPEAKER_06 42:06

Because they're Texas, Oklahoma, Kansas kind of area. Yeah, but whatever it would be would have to be introduced.

SPEAKER_02 42:10

I was gonna say it probably would just introduce there.

SPEAKER_06 42:13

You think they'd introduce the Osceola, Florida, Hawaii? You think they'd be more similar? So the Eastern seems to do the best. They're like you said the most important.

SPEAKER_04 42:21

I don't know if Florida and Hawaii would be very similar, though.

SPEAKER_06 42:24

It's similar than Texas.

SPEAKER_04 42:25

Uh yeah, but isn't I I've never been to Hawaii, but I'm guessing it's just an island. Like Florida's like a swamp.

SPEAKER_06 42:32

Yeah, but uh Hawaii is from what I've seen, it's like a jungle. It's it's junglish and stuff, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 42:38

I don't think it's jungly. I think it's it is for sure. Yes, it is. Hawaii? Very jungly, but not like Florida with like bogs and stuff, though. No, but I think it's high elevation there.

SPEAKER_06 42:49

Higher. It is a little higher.

SPEAKER_03 42:51

Hawaii.

SPEAKER_06 42:51

Not that high. It's created by volcanoes. Yeah, but it there is a lot of like tropical plants and stuff. It's thick vegetation.

SPEAKER_04 43:01

Maybe we'll introduce another turkey.

SPEAKER_06 43:03

Dalton Patterson.

SPEAKER_04 43:05

So we get the next question. Do you guys think it was going to well that was like a 50-50 once we have?

Spurs Merriam Name And Turkey Senses

SPEAKER_06 43:11

Yeah, okay, yeah, yeah. Alright, yeah, you guys get this one. Alright. So team strut. Boy, this is this is good. Which of the subspecies has the longest limb hangers? AKA Spurs? And I left you guys four. So the Osceola, the Eastern, the Rio, or the Mariams? Which has the longest limb hangers? AKA Spurs.

SPEAKER_02 43:39

Pretty sure it's not Eastern. That's as far as I can get her.

SPEAKER_05 43:47

I feel like it's gotta be the Rios. I really do. No, Rios are like like uh Texas and stuff, aren't they?

SPEAKER_06 44:02

Yeah, Texas, Oklahoma, Kansas.

SPEAKER_04 44:04

He gave him one answer already when they were going on the thinking five earlier.

SPEAKER_02 44:08

Yeah. I know. I don't even have a gut feeling for it. You thought it was real.

SPEAKER_05 44:14

That's my gut feeling, and I think that's all we got. If unless you get anything else, we'll go with that. Your gut feeling's generally pretty good now.

SPEAKER_02 44:20

No, yeah, it's been good so far, and mine would just be a crapshoot. I don't have an inclination, so we'll just go with you.

unknown 44:26

Fuck.

SPEAKER_05 44:26

Okay, Rio Paul. You want Rio? Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 44:31

It is Ryan's just a little bit. Oh no, that's it.

SPEAKER_04 44:36

That's a chair.

SPEAKER_06 44:37

Doesn't smell like a chair. It is not the Rio. Okay. So team putt. You guys have the question which of the subspecies has the longest limb hangers? Osseola, Eastern Mariams. Because we know it's not the Rio.

SPEAKER_04 44:57

I was thinking Eastern. Say say all of that stuff again, the names, because there's Osseola, Eastern Mariams.

SPEAKER_03 45:08

So the Osseolas, it's to me, it's between the Osceola and the Eastern.

SPEAKER_06 45:14

And why is that, Jesse?

SPEAKER_03 45:15

Good thing he didn't give Gould or the Eastern is a bigger bird.

SPEAKER_04 45:19

It is. That is true, yeah. It's funny that good thing he didn't give ghould, because that's what I would have gone with because earlier said they had long egg.

SPEAKER_06 45:26

I figured they would have long spurs then. So good thing he didn't think. That's actually kind of why I didn't put it on there. So I would just go help.

SPEAKER_03 45:32

They need the bigger spurs, bigger birds to fight, whatever. What do they use them for? Is it for fighting?

SPEAKER_06 45:40

Yeah. Yeah, it's fighting. They're sharp.

SPEAKER_04 45:46

Do they also use it like they wouldn't use it for like uh defense? Defense, would they?

SPEAKER_06 45:52

Yeah, they would fighting defense. Yeah. Same thing. I mean they're gonna try to fly away.

SPEAKER_04 45:56

Because the I feel like the osteola would have to defend against a lot more stuff.

SPEAKER_03 46:03

Do they they use it against each other, not on pr on like predators, right?

SPEAKER_06 46:08

Um I'm not saying they wouldn't. Like if you went in there to try to grab one. I think when they're with predators, they try to run, try to fly. Yeah, that's what I think. But it's a lot of things.

SPEAKER_04 46:16

How big was the spur on the turkeys you guided last year, Ken?

SPEAKER_06 46:20

Uh last year they were I'm not answering that.

SPEAKER_03 46:26

Eastern. You're gonna go with Eastern? That's what I'm thinking.

SPEAKER_06 46:32

Let's try, Ryan.

SPEAKER_04 46:33

Nope. I'll I'll I'll I trust you on that. We'll go with it. You want to try it? Alright, we're good.

SPEAKER_06 46:37

We're gonna go with it. You guys go with it? You're breaking some trust because it is not the Eastern. So no one gets it because now it's 50-50.

SPEAKER_04 46:45

Is he the osceola?

SPEAKER_06 46:46

It's the osceola. So the osseola, found commonly in cracker country, uh spending their time among cattle in open pastures, palmetto hemmocks, and pine timber stands. They have the longest spurs of any breed of turkey. Yeah. Alright, so we are on, we're on you guys. Yep, team putt, because you guys got that one. You guys didn't get it, you got you added shod at it, and you lost. Yeah. That's the yeah. That really sucks. Um, so this question's not gonna be any easier. How did the Merriam's turkey get its name? Is it A after Merriam Cooks of Colorado? B from Merriam County, Wyoming, C after C. Hart Merriam, D from Merriam Cattle, where the turkey is commonly near feeding. Fun fact for this, I made up uh all these but one.

SPEAKER_04 47:45

Can you go through that list again?

SPEAKER_06 47:48

Yeah, I can, but I'm not going to. No. Um after Merriam Cooks of Colorado from Merriam County, Wyoming, after C heart Merriam, from Merriam Cattle, where the turkey is commonly near feeding. One's right, three are made up.

SPEAKER_03 48:06

I'm gonna go with B because it's like the location. I don't think it's A because I don't think it's named after some person. Doesn't make sense to me. Well it could be between B, that that one, and then What was C again? Where it feeds by the cattle.

SPEAKER_06 48:26

After C hurt Merriam.

SPEAKER_03 48:29

Or that's C, sorry. The other ones where it feeds by the cattle.

SPEAKER_06 48:32

D was feed by the cattle. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 48:35

And then B was after a county in Wyoming. Sorry, say A and C again.

SPEAKER_06 48:51

A is after Merriam Cooks of Colorado, and C is after C heart Merriam. It's two people.

SPEAKER_03 49:01

Do you think it's named after a person where it feeds a location?

SPEAKER_06 49:06

One person.

SPEAKER_03 49:07

C hearts.

SPEAKER_06 49:08

It's C dot heart.

SPEAKER_04 49:12

And it's also the third one. C.

SPEAKER_06 49:17

No. Yes.

SPEAKER_04 49:21

I think it's that one. The C one. Why? Just the way. Well, what was A again? It was something Cooks of Colorado.

SPEAKER_06 49:29

After Merriam Cooks of Colorado, yeah. Because that is where the turkey is found.

SPEAKER_04 49:34

And then I don't think it's after a county. I think it was at I I have a feeling it's Merriam County. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 49:41

I'm thinking the same with cattle because it's kind of too specific being where it's located.

SPEAKER_04 49:46

Yeah. I'm going to try C because the Cooks of Colorado I don't like it. I'm going to go with it. C.

SPEAKER_06 49:51

Why you guys go why you guys come with it?

SPEAKER_04 49:53

Uh I don't like Cooks of Colorado. And the Wyoming Cook.

SPEAKER_06 49:57

Well, if they're listening, apologies. Yes, sorry. Um, you guys going with C?

SPEAKER_04 50:02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 50:03

I guess that would put you guys one ahead of team Strutt. It is. Uh so it's it's named after C. Hart Merriam, the first chief biologist of the U.S. biological study in 1900.

SPEAKER_04 50:16

That was a good guess. Is that four points for us now?

SPEAKER_06 50:19

Yeah. So the other one's made up. I thought the uh the Merriam cattle where the turkeys commonly found feeding. I thought that would get somebody. I really did. Or a girl after Merriam Cooks. I thought that would be like Merriam, Marion's girl's name. I figured that would do something, but I thought the cattle one was pretty smart.

SPEAKER_04 50:35

That was pretty good. Yeah. Yeah. I thought it was smart. Yeah, it's good. Not smart enough to. Well, didn't get us. Yeah. In my head, I just told myself it was going to be C before we even started.

SPEAKER_05 50:52

I was going to go for the Wyoming one, to be honest with you.

SPEAKER_06 50:55

I thought they were all pretty good, made up. I'm uh someone would call me a smart feller, and after Ryan's chair just made that noise, I'd say I'm a fart smeller. Alright, so team strut. Uh named. Nope. Alright, so true or false. So this is an easy one. So you guys, you guys get this, you guys don't. If they get it wrong, you don't get it. So it's true or false. Turkeys can see color. True or false?

SPEAKER_02 51:20

Well, we got four unanswered goals to make up here for. I'm pretty sure that's true. Because I remember seeing something one time on like a uh turkey pattern commercial. Might have been the Sika cover commercial. It was emphasizing how they have uh like they could see a full color spectrum. That's why it's such a big deal to go out and buy the Sika cover pattern. So I think they can. Sure.

SPEAKER_06 51:47

Going with true?

unknown 51:49

Yep.

SPEAKER_06 51:50

You guys go with uh Mark? Did you guys say true? Oh no, it's false. Um so turkeys can I'm just kidding, it's true.

SPEAKER_04 51:57

I was gonna say that was like the easiest question he's ever given.

SPEAKER_06 52:01

A lot of animals can't see color.

SPEAKER_03 52:03

Yeah, but turkeys are known for when you go hunting turkeys, you don't wear orange.

SPEAKER_06 52:07

But you don't know how well they can see colors. A lot of guys go hunting deer and they don't want to wear orange and deer can't see color.

SPEAKER_04 52:12

Yeah, but turkeys can see better than like that's their people like, oh, I'm not wearing hunters orange, hunting deer.

SPEAKER_06 52:18

They want to like take it off and like wear a full camo when it doesn't matter.

SPEAKER_03 52:21

Yeah, so I know some guys like that.

SPEAKER_06 52:23

I do too. Um, so yeah, true. Like most birds, they have a strong ability to detect color. They have one rod cell that detects light and six cone cells that detect color. That's quite a bit. Alright. So you guys heard that. So we're on teen putt. Turkeys have one of the most complex blank of any animal. Lungs, a lungs, b, heart, c retina, or d ear canals. They have one of the most complex blank what of any animal. Lungs, heart, retina, ear canals.

SPEAKER_03 53:09

So they're sharper than deer. That's seeing and hearing. Seeing and hearing. Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 53:16

Yes, that's true.

SPEAKER_04 53:18

He really gave this all to me, it's between seeing and hearing, I think.

SPEAKER_03 53:22

No, a hundred percent. And I just don't know which one's sharper. Trying to think here.

SPEAKER_04 53:32

I feel like seeing at this point would have to be too obvious.

SPEAKER_03 53:38

I think it is seeing.

SPEAKER_04 53:40

You think it is seeing? I I was wondering if it's hearing because I know people put a lot of emphasis on being really crisp with calling for them. It's true. Like they like I don't know. I don't I can't turkey call. Yeah, but I know that there's a lot of like yeah, I know they talk with each other a lot by noise.

SPEAKER_03 54:03

Yeah. But this is a follow-up question. Which and it just seems too obvious to be seeing, though.

SPEAKER_04 54:08

To the color one.

SPEAKER_05 54:09

Yeah, I I would hate to be you guys right now. I we're gonna be able to do that.

SPEAKER_02 54:13

I do agree with the reverse psychology, it would be really getting to me there, too. We're in we're in a beautiful spot here.

SPEAKER_04 54:21

You guys get wrong in the easiest true and false ever. And then you get the easiest of a 50-50 after this. We get it wrong. We get a really good one.

SPEAKER_05 54:29

You guys are acting like the one my brain thought the exact same thing. I really think it's thinking, but I honestly don't know.

SPEAKER_03 54:35

I I really do. I don't know. Have a hard time with that one, but you're right with the last two that I was trying to counter you on, so I'll go with it. Yeah? Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 54:50

Locking in hearing. No.

SPEAKER_06 54:55

For fuck's sakes. You you guys are acting like you know me or something, like going to try some like Jedi minds.

SPEAKER_05 55:04

Sorry, Jesse. That's all good. First thing that came to my mind was like, fuck, I'd hate to be them because we were in the best spot.

SPEAKER_02 55:09

Yeah, if you guys are obviously choosing one. If the seed in question wasn't there, I'd eyes would have been the easy go-to.

SPEAKER_05 55:16

I I agree. Yeah, but yeah, 100%. I would have expected K to fucking be there. You're right, Jesse. That's all good. So we're gonna go with uh uh I'm just kidding, we're gonna go with eyes.

SPEAKER_06 55:27

Wrong, it's lungs, bitch. No, it's eyes, it's eyes. It's eyes. So the retina, yep. So we're tied up, but you know how you're saying that they got that easy one with true or false? That could have landed on you guys just as easy, right? That was it could have easily landed on you guys. Um, so the retinas, they have six cone cells in it to see color. What do we have?

SPEAKER_05 55:47

They have three?

SPEAKER_06 55:50

I'm not sure.

SPEAKER_05 55:51

I'm not, yeah.

SPEAKER_06 55:52

We don't have six. Uh they can't see color better than us. And get this, they had the ability to see UV light, which can be magnified by the detergents we wash our clothing in.

SPEAKER_05 56:02

Really?

SPEAKER_06 56:03

Yep. I just said that, Dalton. Yes. Pretty wild, eh? Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 56:08

Is that something you take into account when you're going out gauding? Nope. Like what did like who did the laundry last night?

SPEAKER_06 56:14

Did you yeah, did you guys use the guide service? Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 56:18

You gotta pay more for that.

Mood Ring Heads And Behavior Clues

SPEAKER_06 56:20

Yeah. Um, but yeah, it's kind of interesting, isn't it? I've got a pee. So, team struts. We're tied up right now. 4-4. Okay. Question. Turkeys are sometimes referred to as what? Is it A, Nature's Mood Ring, B, Nature's Binos, C, ugly ducks, or D Thunder Roosters?

SPEAKER_05 56:49

I've heard the mood ring thing before.

SPEAKER_02 56:52

I've never heard any of them. Where have you heard this?

SPEAKER_06 56:56

That's because some of them were made up.

SPEAKER_05 56:58

Where the f did I hear that?

SPEAKER_06 57:00

Yeah, where did you hear it?

SPEAKER_05 57:01

No, I'm trying to think because this this conversation happened like the other day. I mean, I think it might have been a work.

SPEAKER_06 57:07

What?

SPEAKER_05 57:08

Somebody said.

SPEAKER_06 57:09

Don't you work with Filipinos?

SPEAKER_05 57:11

Uh about 50-50, yeah, I do. Definitely.

SPEAKER_06 57:14

How would they bring up that and they don't? Okay.

SPEAKER_05 57:18

But anyway.

SPEAKER_02 57:20

You got your three three head colors there. It does change based on mood. Everything else is a crapshoot, so if if you've heard before, I feel like that's the safest guess.

SPEAKER_06 57:34

Mood ring, binos, ugly ducks, thunder roosters.

SPEAKER_02 57:37

I mean, they all make sense on paper, but um you've heard mood ring, might as well go with it.

SPEAKER_05 57:47

Yeah, we're gonna go with it because that's all I've heard of.

SPEAKER_06 57:49

Locking it in?

SPEAKER_05 57:50

Yep.

SPEAKER_06 57:50

And locking it down. Nice. It is. I've I've really thought after, so I did do this. So the mood ring is true. The nature's by nose, ugly ducks, and thunder roosters are completely made up.

SPEAKER_05 58:02

I would agree. Thunder roosters was number two for me. Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 58:06

Thunder chickens.

SPEAKER_05 58:07

If you ever produce a lineup, there you go.

SPEAKER_06 58:09

Put that in the locker, write that one down. Um, so after the the two eye ones, I thought by putting nature's bynos, that would throw you guys off.

SPEAKER_05 58:19

See, this is why you guys were hesitant earlier on the eyes, right? Yeah, 100%. I get I get where you're coming from.

SPEAKER_06 58:25

So, yeah, I thought after putting the two I ones that one of you what you guys would have chosen nature's binos, but good guess.

SPEAKER_04 58:32

It is I guess not even guess. You guys knew it. Let's see. Yeah, it's the only one that I've heard.

SPEAKER_06 58:36

Dalton might have heard it somewhere once. I'm trying to think where the Filipinos catch every time.

SPEAKER_05 58:41

Yeah, yeah. Pee-wee must have said it. I don't know.

SPEAKER_01 58:44

People like, hey, Mr. Patterson! It could have been a movie.

SPEAKER_05 58:48

I don't I can't I can't remember. That's Mexican. I know I heard it like Mexican the other day.

SPEAKER_06 58:52

Yeah, I don't know what Filipinos are really saying like, I guess. I like accents, I'm not really sure of theirs. Um yeah.

SPEAKER_01 58:58

Hey, Mr. Patterson, you like it. The mootering.

SPEAKER_06 59:01

The Turkeys, they like that. Oh no, that's Mexican and guess again. Do a yeah, do a Filipino accent.

SPEAKER_05 59:09

I was just gonna say the other day, one of them was telling me a story about going to Bangkok and getting a massage. Anyway, it was the funniest story I have ever heard. And I'm not telling it on the screen. Is it true?

SPEAKER_04 59:23

Thai massage? Uh probably tell it after.

SPEAKER_05 59:26

Yeah. I will tell it after. But I've that anyway, that's all.

Snood Talk And Turkey Anatomy

SPEAKER_06 59:31

I'd like you to act it out. Okay. Um, so nature's mood ring. Uh, yes, so the turkey said white pale shades equals usually uh mean they're a relaxed bird, or it can mean he is ready to mate. So it's a good thing bulls aren't like that. It's like he's either really calm or he's gonna bang one of us. Yeah, it's a good thing cows can't do that. Um, or uh the head turns red, they feel angered, or they're ready to mate. No, if the head turns red, uh they feel angered or threatened. Uh, they do this by altering blood flow to the skin and manipulating collagen structures. So when you're turkey hunting, pay attention to the head. Yeah. It's weird. Only they can do that. Yeah. Can you imagine? Like you're imagines did that or something, you're like riding, like, oh, I'd get off clop wise. Like, he's either calm or he's gonna whip it out right now. Yeah. Yeah, actually, he's threatened. Um, all right, so they're winning by one. Team putt. What else, besides its feathers position, can a turkey change? So not their head. Because I can change the color of their head, and I'm not talking about their feather position. What else can a turkey change? And there's no A, B, C, or D. You tell me. And if you guys just tell me talking about, let's go over the anatomy of the turkey. What do you what do you guys see when you see a turkey? Let's go, uh, let's start from the feet.

SPEAKER_05 1:01:15

Ask that question again.

SPEAKER_06 1:01:16

Alright. What else its head, because we already went over that, besides the turkeys moving their feathers, I guess. Can a turkey change?

SPEAKER_05 1:01:25

I fucking nothing.

SPEAKER_06 1:01:26

What is that thing that is it the shrewd?

SPEAKER_03 1:01:30

Is that what it's called? It might be. It has a weird name, for sure. But is that part of the head or not?

SPEAKER_06 1:01:37

Um no, I'm the head I'm talking about, like it's it it's actual.

SPEAKER_03 1:01:41

Because that that hangs down like that. Uh what would they change about that?

SPEAKER_04 1:01:48

I I have no idea. They might maybe they can do something. Kind of looks like a ball sack. Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 1:01:56

Not mine. Uh if your ball sack looks like that is a big thing.

SPEAKER_04 1:02:01

But he said it's not it's not the feathers, it's not the head.

SPEAKER_06 1:02:04

No. There's nothing else. What else can they change? Because I I've I've just excluded feathers because you're like, if they put the feathers up and they're fanning them out. I'm not, it's not that. I'm not saying that.

SPEAKER_03 1:02:13

I think it's it is probably that whatever that is called. I that's the old but I don't think feet change. That's all bone. Like, yeah. You can't like they're not making their spurs longer, shorter. Like it's not it's all it's all there. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:02:27

I'll go with go with that because I don't know. Whatever that thing is called.

SPEAKER_06 1:02:30

Yeah. I'm just kidding. No, I I don't expect you guys to have the word. Because you're not gonna expect to get a point because you can't come up with no, just kidding. Uh so you guys are going with that? Yeah. So it's called, what'd you call it?

SPEAKER_02 1:02:42

Uh the shrewd? Well, which part are you talking about? Because there's two different things there.

SPEAKER_03 1:02:48

There's the beard and then the shrewd right head.

SPEAKER_06 1:02:51

So you're not talking about the beard.

SPEAKER_03 1:02:52

Not the beard.

SPEAKER_06 1:02:53

You're talking about the snood? Snood. Yes, there it is. That's the point, boys. That's the point.

SPEAKER_05 1:02:59

What do they change about it?

SPEAKER_06 1:03:00

I think it gets erect.

unknown 1:03:02

Really?

SPEAKER_06 1:03:02

It doesn't stick right off. No, I think it does. Can it just hang down further? The snoo yeah, the snood. The more relaxed and into the situation he is, it will get longer and it will retract if it's scared or unsure of his situation. Insert wiener jokes here. Um, so it doesn't no, it doesn't. You thought it like stuck right up in the air? Fucking clothes on each other.

SPEAKER_02 1:03:29

I've heard videos of like Jake's, maybe it's because theirs is smaller, but it's definitely pointing out their like little rhino nose.

Latin Name Trap And Clever Decoys

SPEAKER_06 1:03:36

Really? Because it's and so this it hangs down over their nose, and then it'll go yeah, longer if he's into the situation, all that, and relaxed, and then if he's freaked out, like tucks tail. Happens to best of us. It does. I've retracted mine over fear. Um, yep. Alright, so we're tied up. So team strut. And you guys know that when we do the deer trivia, the bear trivia, things like that, I like to get this question in here. And you also know, for those of you that have listened to the podcast before, that I make up three out of the four answers. But in this case I didn't. I made up one. The other two are actually real. And I don't know if you guys are gonna know what I'm gonna ask, but I always do this when we do like a specific answer. Yeah, that's right. What is the Latin name for wild turkey? Is it A Melagras Odecoi, B, Anis, A N A S, C, Meligri, Melagri, Glapova, or D Equus Cabalus, Cabalus. Yep. Clear as mud.

SPEAKER_02 1:04:58

The worst part is when we were at school, we had every mammal recognized for an exam.

SPEAKER_06 1:05:03

I know the deer off by heart, Otiquilis Virginianus. I've always known that since I was in school.

SPEAKER_02 1:05:08

Did you go to MCFD?

SPEAKER_06 1:05:10

No, I went to trucking school.

SPEAKER_02 1:05:12

So when Rod was teaching there in the final exam, that was a uh a gimme. If you could spell that. Like if there's one, you got to use it once during the exam. Yep. And you could write it for whatever question, and it was just Rod Cumberland? Yep.

SPEAKER_06 1:05:24

A fired deer biologist that said spraying's killing our animals.

SPEAKER_02 1:05:28

Uh, I'm not gonna get into that.

SPEAKER_06 1:05:30

That worked for Irving too. Um but yes, you always yeah, you guys know that when we do an animal specific uh Okay.

SPEAKER_05 1:05:40

Spell D.

SPEAKER_06 1:05:41

Spell D? Yep. E Q U U S Space C A B A L L U S.

SPEAKER_05 1:05:51

Yeah, I think that's bullshit.

SPEAKER_06 1:05:52

One of the one of these are made up. That sounds a lot like three of them are real.

SPEAKER_05 1:05:56

And I think B is bullshit. Did you? Did you say name or a genus?

SPEAKER_04 1:06:02

Did you say they're all like real words or like real things for animals?

SPEAKER_06 1:06:06

So I made up I only made up one. The other three are are real.

SPEAKER_04 1:06:11

Like real animals. What? Like real other real animals. Okay.

SPEAKER_02 1:06:17

But one of them. Like one of them you only have like a genus there for, right? Or something of the swords.

SPEAKER_06 1:06:23

You're gonna buff my head now. What's a genus?

SPEAKER_02 1:06:25

Well, you just have the one word or one of the answers. Yep. So I think we have her down to th just a random three. Can you read those other three again?

SPEAKER_06 1:06:35

No, so those two, Jesse. Um, so it's melagris odakoi. You don't think it's Anis. Space O D A C O I. I'd use it in a sentence, but I already did. Uh and then we've got melagres galapova galapovo or equus cabalus.

SPEAKER_02 1:07:13

There's the first two are. I like Ryan.

SPEAKER_06 1:07:16

Ryan knew I was gonna put this in here.

SPEAKER_02 1:07:18

So if there's only So here's the thing.

SPEAKER_06 1:07:22

Didn't you rise?

SPEAKER_02 1:07:22

We've establishers.

unknown 1:07:25

So Ryan knows it.

SPEAKER_06 1:07:26

No, he doesn't know it, but Ryan knew I was gonna put the ladder in here. Because I did I did this with the deer one. I did it. Remember, I made up all of them on the deer one and the bear one. I made them all up, except for the one. And you guys were like, well, he butchered that one, so that's not it. I was like, that's it.

SPEAKER_02 1:07:41

Do you have any any inclination at all? I have nothing.

SPEAKER_06 1:07:45

I know it's crapshoot. I'm gonna say Well, you uh you you knew the word genus, and I'm like, I think we should eliminate D and pick between A, B, and C.

SPEAKER_02 1:07:55

Well the first two sound so similar, and I don't think it's the one one word because that's unless he's pulling one over on us, that's not a proper Latin name for a species. That's what we're getting at right here. We're not getting in like family or Latin name for wild turkey.

SPEAKER_06 1:08:13

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:08:13

So I would say if you don't think it's D for one whatever or whatever reason, then the first two are pretty similar. Or they both have an M. That's similar enough for what we're comparing.

unknown 1:08:26

Yeah. Pick one.

SPEAKER_02 1:08:27

Yeah, I know it's crap shooting. Can you just read those two again and then we'll just pick one of the other ones? Uh the um not anus and not D.

SPEAKER_06 1:08:35

Uh melagrass ode koi, melagras melligrass galapovo.

SPEAKER_02 1:08:42

Well, we do have two species of turkey we've established. This is a brutal 50-50. We should have done this in our heads here because we're yeah, you gotta do it at laptop. You're the one that you're the one that's got that gut inclination today. And I don't know that my theories are right here.

SPEAKER_05 1:08:55

I'm just trying to find something because we've got to solidify something.

SPEAKER_02 1:08:58

Well, if we're doing two we've established two species of turkeys. Both of those have the same precursor there. Precursor. I'm gonna be an answer too. Two species. So whatever you think, a or one or two.

SPEAKER_04 1:09:14

I'm not giving an answer, but you're you think okay, because there's two species, which you guys got the question right earlier. So you're thinking that that first word being the same, one is for each species, is what you're figuring.

SPEAKER_02 1:09:25

Well, it's it's a genus and species.

SPEAKER_04 1:09:28

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:09:28

So like one is for the one that the Mexican one and then the wild one is what I'm assuming.

SPEAKER_06 1:09:35

Oh, okay, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:09:36

Brutal. Like now, whatever. If we don't get her, here you go, boys.

SPEAKER_06 1:09:40

It's the name for the yeah, wild turkey. The wild turkey.

SPEAKER_02 1:09:42

Are we even right on what we've said so far?

SPEAKER_06 1:09:44

We have no idea. I know these are the hard ones, the Latin ones, right?

unknown 1:09:51

B.

SPEAKER_02 1:09:52

You're the gut guesser here today. B.

SPEAKER_06 1:09:53

B? Yeah. It is not B. So team putt, you guys have a chance.

SPEAKER_02 1:09:59

B wasn't anus, was it?

SPEAKER_06 1:10:00

It's B was anus. What?

SPEAKER_03 1:10:02

C.

SPEAKER_06 1:10:03

Nope, B.

SPEAKER_03 1:10:05

So what do you think? C. C?

SPEAKER_04 1:10:07

Yeah. O decoy doesn't sound right to me.

SPEAKER_06 1:10:10

What's uh say C Melagrass Galapovo.

SPEAKER_04 1:10:14

That's what I think it is. I think it's oh, and that's what they thought they were picking. I think that's one the one it is.

SPEAKER_03 1:10:20

Yeah, sure.

SPEAKER_04 1:10:21

C. You guys are choosing C? Yeah, because O decoy did not sound right. Dalton, you dropped the ball there.

SPEAKER_02 1:10:27

That was uh just a technicality there.

SPEAKER_06 1:10:30

Yeah, no, it's good. Dalton's been on the winning streak, and it's not over. You guys are only up, you guys are only up by one. It is uh it is uh melligrass ode koy. Yep.

SPEAKER_02 1:10:41

No, it's not the one that you see if we're paying attention.

SPEAKER_04 1:10:44

Yeah, I am.

SPEAKER_06 1:10:45

No, it's melagroif.

SPEAKER_04 1:10:46

All of our faces were like, what?

SPEAKER_06 1:10:47

It's uh it's melograss galapavo. So melligrass otocoi, I made up. Apparently, anis is duck.

SPEAKER_02 1:10:59

I guess that's what like genus of duck, I guess.

SPEAKER_06 1:11:02

Yeah, um, and then equus cabalus cabalus is uh horse, I guess.

SPEAKER_04 1:11:09

I kind of figured it it was something like yeah, equine would kind of miss it. Yeah, I don't know.

SPEAKER_06 1:11:13

I was just trying to anyway, so um, so formally described by Carl Linnius in 1758, the name comes from the Greek uh melagres, meaning guinea fowl, and the Latin gallopavo, meaning fowl peacock. So guinea fowl peacock, which is I thought it's kind of odd because guinea fowl is like a species of bird, you know. So, anyways. Um team strut. This has been a close one. Like this has not been a land. Remember the first couple of trivials that we did, it's like a landslide, and then ever since then it's actually been really close. So oh wait, what'd you guys say? No, all right. So team strut.

unknown 1:12:02

Is it them?

SPEAKER_06 1:12:03

Yeah, it's us. Okay, team put? Alright. Oh, yeah, that's right. They stole it from you guys. Right.

SPEAKER_04 1:12:08

We've gone back to back steals.

Domesticated Birds Final Showdown

SPEAKER_06 1:12:09

Alright, so this one, this one, the answer is not to do with turkey, believe it or not. This is a little different. Besides the wild turkey, what other bird makes up the two domesticated birds native to the new world? Is it A, Muscovy duck, B, quail, C, peacocks, or D, pigeons? Three of these I just threw in there.

SPEAKER_05 1:12:39

Say that whole thing again.

SPEAKER_06 1:12:40

That is a weird I know, yeah, I know. So besides the wild turkey, what other bird makes up the two domesticated birds native to the new world? So there's two birds that are native to the new world. What's the one of them's turkey?

SPEAKER_04 1:12:54

What do you mean by that?

SPEAKER_02 1:12:55

Like Curtis? Like North America.

SPEAKER_03 1:12:59

Okay. Okay. So they're native to native birds to North America.

SPEAKER_02 1:13:05

Like the new the Columbus era Columbus era.

unknown 1:13:08

Okay.

SPEAKER_06 1:13:08

Not necessarily North America.

SPEAKER_02 1:13:12

Like Columbus era.

SPEAKER_04 1:13:14

So like that would that were basically the animals that were not not brought over.

SPEAKER_06 1:13:18

Domesticated in Central and South America.

SPEAKER_02 1:13:24

Well, yeah, I guess that was a good thing. So I'll give you I'll give you that.

SPEAKER_06 1:13:26

So yeah, so domesticated in Central and South America. So there's two, there's and I was surprised by this, but apparently, I looked it up several times. There's only two birds that were domesticated, one of them being the wild turkey. And the other one's either the muscovy duck, the quail, peacocks, or pigeon. Domesticated in Central and South America.

SPEAKER_04 1:13:48

So it's quail, peacock, muscovy duck. Muscovy duck.

SPEAKER_06 1:13:54

Pigeons. And pigeons. That were domesticated. No, I found this. I found this one kind of interesting.

SPEAKER_03 1:13:59

Yeah, so I've been hatching ducks and stuff. So I know muscovy ducks are you hatch ducks? I had just started.

SPEAKER_06 1:14:07

Really? What what breeds? Muscovy?

SPEAKER_03 1:14:09

No, I don't like Muscovy.

SPEAKER_06 1:14:11

Okay. What other breeds? Are you are you doing just for fun? Are you releasing them?

SPEAKER_03 1:14:14

No, just for eggs, basically.

SPEAKER_06 1:14:17

Oh, you eat the eggs? Yeah. Are duck eggs? Good. I've never eaten them before. Yeah, they are. You don't even notice the difference. Really? Yeah. I've eaten quail eggs.

SPEAKER_02 1:14:23

I had a buddy who had runner ducks. That's right. He said the problem was he'd be out like cutting his grass and just find a bunch of eggs and be like, hmm, can I eat these? Have these been here for two weeks? Because he said they would never lay them in the same spot. It's true. He'd have to go and find them all the time, like Easter morning.

SPEAKER_03 1:14:39

I've got it like a mix right now. I got runner ducks. I got a wild duck that just flew in house, showed up. But um call ducks.

SPEAKER_06 1:14:48

Oh yeah? Call ducks, a small one. When I was younger, I wanted yeah, I called ducks too.

unknown 1:14:53

Get out of here!

SPEAKER_06 1:14:55

Um, I do it with a duck call. Um not that well. Uh I mean, okay, Curtis Herman. It's okay, it's not great. Uh when I was younger, I wanted to have livestock and I couldn't, so I wanted to farm. Uh, so I had birds and um one between my legs. No. Uh so I I had a special permit and I had wood ducks, I had Mandarin ducks and stuff like that. My grandfather used to have candy geese. It's cool. I got cows now.

SPEAKER_03 1:15:18

They're cooler than birds, but it's kind of the gateways, the ducks and first chickens, then bulls.

SPEAKER_06 1:15:24

Yeah. Um, yeah, that's cool. All right, back to the question, Jeff.

SPEAKER_03 1:15:27

So Muscovies is one for sure, but I don't know if they're native to the area.

SPEAKER_06 1:15:32

Like, so this question was saying something that was native. Well, so besides the wild turkey, what other bird makes up two? So the wild turkey and what elks domesticated birds native to the new world, and they're domesticated in Central and South America. I thought this was interesting because I thought there's way more than that, but there's only two. And I'm looking for this quail. What's the other option, so peacock was one option? Muscovy duck, quail, peacocks, pigeons.

SPEAKER_03 1:16:05

If you're confident on quail, uh I know a lot of people do have like quail as like not gonna say pets, but as their like source of eggs. Sure, let's go with that then. Quail. Go with quail?

SPEAKER_06 1:16:22

Wrong. It's wrong. Team strut. You guys get this right, you tie it up.

SPEAKER_05 1:16:30

I've never heard of a peacock being domesticated, but I have heard of like carrier pigeons.

SPEAKER_02 1:16:41

They're pretty North American, are they not?

SPEAKER_06 1:16:44

And Ken told us it's Central and Domesticated and Central and South America.

SPEAKER_02 1:16:50

I mean, I could be wrong, it's just my first thought.

SPEAKER_06 1:16:58

It's a real stab in the deck question. You just kinda It is, yeah. I I thought it I came across it and I was like, that's interesting. I thought there'd be way more than two, but I feel like there's dove hunting in Brazil.

SPEAKER_05 1:17:10

Am I wrong with right about that? I have no idea.

SPEAKER_06 1:17:13

Maybe there's Argentina for sure.

SPEAKER_02 1:17:15

Well, yeah. I guess they must be able to.

SPEAKER_05 1:17:17

So those are kind of pigeons, right?

SPEAKER_02 1:17:19

Yeah, well, I mean, a rock dove, like are the same families as pigeons.

SPEAKER_06 1:17:25

Right, they do call pigeons rock doves, don't they? That threw me off. Yeah. Somebody told me that, and I was like, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 1:17:38

But it could be a peacock too, and we could all be wrong. I have no fucking idea.

SPEAKER_02 1:17:42

A peacock looks like something that would come from Central America, but for some reason I feel like they're not from there. Are they from Asia?

SPEAKER_06 1:17:53

Same with I know where they're from, I'll tell you after.

SPEAKER_02 1:17:56

And there's I think there's so many domesticated ducks that are from Asia as well. That's throwing me off. Like it, like I said, I have no idea. But if there's dove hunting in Argentina, then I'm gonna say that that would cover all of North and South America as far as range overlap for pigeons.

SPEAKER_05 1:18:21

You know there's pigeons shitting on top of buildings and every fucking planet, right? Like they gotta be everywhere.

SPEAKER_04 1:18:27

I'd one on the hood of my truck today.

SPEAKER_02 1:18:30

Whatever you think, man. Your your gut's been good to us tonight, and I have no inquiry.

SPEAKER_04 1:18:34

Just make sure whatever uh letter you say corresponds with uh the thing, though.

SPEAKER_02 1:18:38

Yeah, I don't want to I don't want to sewer us, but I don't think peacock are from Central or South America, even though they look like something that should be. But what if it's Muscovy duck? It could be, it could be. And uh if Jesse had said it, I I would have believed them, but I was hoping that's what he was gonna guess. The only thing throwing me off is I know so many domesticated ducks are originated in Asia.

unknown 1:19:08

Yeah, fair enough.

SPEAKER_02 1:19:10

Should we just go with your your first gut guess there? Well, first thing was pigeons, so we're just gonna lock that in.

SPEAKER_06 1:19:16

Yeah, it's going with pigeons.

SPEAKER_02 1:19:17

Yep.

Winner Reveal And Closing Laughs

SPEAKER_06 1:19:18

I'm gonna have to come up with a tiebreaker, is what I would say. If you guys had gotten that right. I'm sorry, but Ryan and Jesse have redeemed yourselves. You have won by one point. Oh man. By one point. So the Muscovy duck domesticated. That's what it was.

SPEAKER_00 1:19:33

Oh Jesse, you had it right away.

SPEAKER_06 1:19:37

I was thinking that. I thought you guys can pick it up. I'm like, man, I'll just come up with a tiebreaker. So the Muscovy duck domesticated in Central and South America. These ducks were raised for food and feathers. During the Great Pillow fight in Lancaster, England from March 2nd, 1938 to March 7th, 1938, the demand for these ducks' feathers exploded, thus gaining popularity among nobles.

SPEAKER_02 1:20:00

What's the uh I was gonna say if you're gonna go into more on that I made that part up.

SPEAKER_06 1:20:06

Um they don't swim much because their oil glands are underdeveloped. And they're really ugly.

SPEAKER_03 1:20:14

Yeah, that's why I don't like them.

SPEAKER_06 1:20:16

Super ugly. They look well, not saying turkeys are ugly. I love turkeys. You know what? But the face looks like a turkey.

SPEAKER_04 1:20:23

Even though we got that question wrong, just the way you said I know Muscovy ducks, and it's not that, through them for a loop. No, I thought you were kind of heading towards that.

SPEAKER_06 1:20:32

I thought you were kind of heading towards that, DC.

SPEAKER_04 1:20:34

Well, if he had picked it, I would have to know if they're from the uh because it almost threw you guys off that he said I know what those are.

unknown 1:20:41

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:20:42

And then went on a rant about knowing ducks.

SPEAKER_02 1:20:46

Well, there's just so many domesticated Asian ducks. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:20:49

What should they look like in Asian ducks?

SPEAKER_02 1:20:51

Yeah, because they're what's supposed to be. They're awful. They're awful.

SPEAKER_03 1:20:54

They don't have them at you would see around here. They had them at a farm local game.

SPEAKER_02 1:20:58

They used to chase everybody and lay their eggs under the picnic table and guard it and hiss and pant and run around.

SPEAKER_06 1:21:05

Dalton doesn't know what to do himself. Dalton, you've been on a winning streak for a while. It's come to an end. Sucks. Um, but you guys only lost by one point. That's it. This is really good. This is a really close. It was good. It was really good.

SPEAKER_02 1:21:19

Like the uh the buzz in one?

SPEAKER_04 1:21:21

Oh yeah. Yeah, we click on the buzzer on that one. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:21:25

Yeah, Ryan was passed on that. That could have been the game maker right there, because we were both gonna guess Alaska.

SPEAKER_06 1:21:30

And then even like you said, Ryan, you're like, oh, they got the easy true and false, but I didn't know who that was gonna end.

SPEAKER_05 1:21:37

If I would have fucking said the right letter too, I would have had it.

SPEAKER_06 1:21:40

The one with the Latin. Sometimes you gotta lose once in a while. Dalton, you haven't forgotten.

SPEAKER_02 1:21:44

That's the one time he never asked us to lock it in, eh? You said B, and he goes, All right, B. Uh, and then when he knew exactly what was going on there.

SPEAKER_06 1:21:51

Well, no, I was just I was waiting for an answer.

SPEAKER_04 1:21:53

When you said B, I I was in my head, I was like, they completely like was it Anus?

SPEAKER_06 1:22:00

Yeah, apparently that's Doc. Apparently. It's been a little bit. I think I won the first or second one I was on, and then Jesse, last year around this time, we did a Black Bear trivia. You won that. That was the first trivia I did. Yeah, and I think that was a tiebreaker question. There's a lot of uh you were with Dalton, you guys against Lane and Ben. Yep. Yeah, that's right.

SPEAKER_05 1:22:26

We won that? Yeah, it was Black Bear.

SPEAKER_06 1:22:28

You haven't lost. I don't know if I think this is the first time you've ever lost Dalton.

SPEAKER_03 1:22:32

No, I lost one other one. Someone follow him home. Remember the Bear one? You come out with some random answer to the thing. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Nobody else knew.

SPEAKER_06 1:22:40

I don't know anything about Bear, and then Dalton like came all university on it. I remember listening to that one. I was that was impressive. I can't remember what I was doing.

SPEAKER_05 1:22:47

Yeah, I don't know. I pulled that out of left field. Yeah, I don't remember what it was either. Oh, it was the the weapon thing, wasn't it?

SPEAKER_06 1:22:54

Yeah, that was a good one. I can't remember what it was. I was like, I don't I've never even heard of this in Dalton.

SPEAKER_03 1:23:00

Yeah, it was, yeah.

SPEAKER_06 1:23:01

Dalton knew all about it. Yeah. Yeah, I was everyone.

SPEAKER_04 1:23:04

Yeah, because you written I I listened to this episode and I remember Dalton going into detail about it afterwards.

SPEAKER_05 1:23:09

I was like, I've known Dalton my whole life, and he's never been that far.

SPEAKER_04 1:23:14

Dalton knows a lot about throwing spears and turkey's moods. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Must heard of that work. Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 1:23:24

Uh yeah, that was a lot of fun. That's really good, boys.

SPEAKER_02 1:23:26

Yeah, especially for a bunch of green guys. I'm sure there's gonna be some people listening to this that are diehards that are just pulling their hair out, driving their truck, and listen to our thought process, trying to come up with answers, just screaming at the radio. That happens every yeah. It's my first time doing this thing.

SPEAKER_06 1:23:40

I learned a lot coming up with it because I made everything up. I don't even know the answers. No, but I did learn a lot. That was interesting. Yeah, you guys did too. It's good until next time. Any parting words? Bye.