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They they're"},{"speaker":"Craig Romano","startTime":1154.4,"endTime":1158.18,"body":"amazing because, you know, way"},{"speaker":"Craig Romano","startTime":1158.18,"endTime":1160.9,"body":"nature works. A lot of these"},{"speaker":"Craig Romano","startTime":1158.18,"endTime":1160.9,"body":"rodents. There's bazillions of"},{"speaker":"Craig Romano","startTime":1160.9,"endTime":1164.14,"body":"them because they got to feed so"},{"speaker":"Craig Romano","startTime":1160.9,"endTime":1164.14,"body":"many other so. Golden Eagles"},{"speaker":"Craig Romano","startTime":1164.14,"endTime":1167.38,"body":"like them. Bald eagles like"},{"speaker":"Craig Romano","startTime":1164.14,"endTime":1167.38,"body":"them. Grizzly bears are fond of"},{"speaker":"Craig Romano","startTime":1167.38,"endTime":1170.62,"body":"Marmot also, yeah. But most,"},{"speaker":"Craig Romano","startTime":1167.38,"endTime":1170.62,"body":"most of the bear diets actually"},{"speaker":"Craig Romano","startTime":1170.62,"endTime":1174.04,"body":"fruits and get more vegetarian,"},{"speaker":"Craig Romano","startTime":1170.62,"endTime":1174.04,"body":"but every now and then they a"},{"speaker":"Craig Romano","startTime":1174.04,"endTime":1175.3,"body":"good Marmot steak. Sounds good,"},{"speaker":"Jennie Flaming","startTime":1175.599,"endTime":1179.319,"body":"yeah. Okay,"},{"speaker":"Jennie Flaming","startTime":1175.599,"endTime":1179.319,"body":"cool. All right. Well, um,"},{"speaker":"Jennie Flaming","startTime":1179.499,"endTime":1184.079,"body":"thanks for enlightening us about"},{"speaker":"Jennie Flaming","startTime":1179.499,"endTime":1184.079,"body":"marmots. And that was fun. My"},{"speaker":"Jennie Flaming","startTime":1184.079,"endTime":1187.739,"body":"favorite. 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So, right? So for"},{"speaker":"Craig Romano","startTime":1198.84,"endTime":1201.56,"body":"sure, that's hold off on the"},{"speaker":"Craig Romano","startTime":1201.56,"endTime":1203.48,"body":"Marmot hiking for a little"},{"speaker":"Craig Romano","startTime":1201.56,"endTime":1203.48,"body":"while. All right."},{"speaker":"Jennie Flaming","startTime":1203.72,"endTime":1204.56,"body":"Sounds good."},{"speaker":"Jennie Flaming","startTime":1203.72,"endTime":1204.56,"body":"You."}]}