Talking Taboo with Tara: The Unfiltered Truth

2 Girls and a Cup

• John Ondo • Season 2 • Episode 15

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Exploring Sexual Taboos: A Deep Dive into BDSM, Kinks, and Fetishes

In this episode of The Talking Taboo with Tara podcast, Tara delves into the intricate and often misunderstood world of BDSM, kinks, and fetishes. Engaging in an unfiltered conversation, the guests discuss distinctions between kinks and fetishes, the dynamics of dominance and submission, and the various forms of bondage. They also explore primal play, breath play, and more extreme sexual practices such as golden showers and scat play. The discussion intersects humor, personal anecdotes, and explicit content, aiming to demystify these taboo topics. The episode concludes with reflections on past sexual experiences and the importance of foreplay and communication in intimacy.

00:00 Introduction to The Talking Taboo with Tara
00:16 Understanding BDSM vs. Kink
01:40 Exploring Dominance and Submission
03:12 Bondage and Extreme Practices
04:28 Primal Kinks and Animal Instincts
05:39 Breath Play and Golden Showers
06:51 Shock Sites and Viral Videos
16:49 Disturbing Video Discussion
17:36 Exploring Unconventional Turn-Ons
18:07 Lazy Sex and Side Sex
18:52 Mechanical Bull and Sexual Skills
21:37 Wild Places for Sex
24:15 Threesomes and Orgies
27:31 Early Sexual Experiences
30:49 Smoking and Vaping
33:08 Oral Sex Preferences
35:31 Podcast Conclusion

Speaker 7:

Welcome to The Talking Taboo with Tara podcast, where Tara presents the unfiltered interviews with guests about today's taboo topics. And now here's your host, Ms. Tara.

Tara:

BDSM is a term that gets confused with kink a lot. BDSM is not a kink,

sean:

it's a fetish,

Tara:

correct? It's a catchall,

kelly:

right?

Tara:

It's a catchall all in the word of kinks. Gotcha. All terms are similar, they also have different meanings.

sean:

Like when you like whipped cream or chocolate syrup off somebody, that's a kink.

Tara:

A fetish is bodily fluids involved

sean:

If you eat ass, that's a fetish.

Tara:

Yeah. That ain't a kink. Correct. So

kelly:

that's a fetish.

Tara:

Yeah. And that is I, that is a fetish of my mouth. Her

sean:

finger and ass would be a kink.

Tara:

It's all body fluids. My mouth, my tongue is body fluids going on. Your asshole, which has body fluids coming out of, so therefore it's body fluid on body fluid. That's a fucking kink.

sean:

I just don't know if I can kiss a girl after that. I wouldn't mind getting it, but oh my god. I don't know. Seriously.

kelly:

dude, I feel you. Whatever. You both make me sick,

Tara:

just sitting here thinking about that shit because it's sex. That's why. Soap and water, that's my asshole. Invented to wash and clean yourself. The

sean:

only time I kiss a girl is after giving me head. I can do that, but I can't do that. The other one

Tara:

dominance is related to BDSM. Of course. It's based on control, power.

sean:

And that would be a photo.

Tara:

What is a top or a bottom in BDSM?

sean:

The dominant and the submissive,

kelly:

right?

Tara:

Next sign up. A top is a person who is actually doing something on another in BDSM. Since, while tops are most often dominant, this is not always the case. A bottom is a person who sometimes is being done to in a BDS sense, while the bottoms are most often submissive. But this is not always the

sean:

case. This is where hand jobs and heads come in. This is where we like to be dismissed'cause we fuck a girl's dominant when they're doing that. They're in control. They got their dick and your balls in their hand or wherever. They got control of that shit. I guess that's equivalent to being rude. They

kelly:

Being on top is what I was thinking. That's when I am in charge,

Tara:

a switch is a person who likes to be dominant and submissive, which I'm definitely a switch.

sean:

Yeah.

Tara:

cause I don't always like being dominant'cause I'm dominant in my everyday fucking life. So it's nice to be submissive sometimes. bondage,

sean:

What is that

Tara:

exactly? Including rope bondages, rope handcuffs, spacer bars suspension. Any other extreme type of bondage? Just using things. Whips, plastic rope. Plastic bags. That's what it says. Plastic bags that it says more severe bondage is plastic bags. That must be for the baby oil.

sean:

I don't know, but I'm not into anything like that. I'd lose my heart on, I'm like, why are we even doing anything now? Like a fucking X man or it's like matrix of total recall vander sex. You know those people in Amsterdam? They do shit like that where they wear a bunch of leather and chains and silver spikes and shit, and a cyclops helmet.

kelly:

I don't mind getting my ass smacked a little bit here and there, but

sean:

I like my ass smacked and played with and poked that and rubbed and. All good stuff.

Tara:

A primal kink. Do you have a primal kink?

kelly:

What's a primal kink? Educate me.

Tara:

Primal play is a kink that involves getting touched with basic animal nature. And allowing yourself to explore with your partner.

sean:

What's an animal like? People who put gerbils up their butts?

Tara:

No. And animal. Like a cat, a dog, A raccoon, A fox. Primal. You're an animal. A lion. A tiger. What

sean:

you feel like when you're having sex. If when, yes. You're primal

Tara:

instinct, animal.

sean:

Oh I guess that'd probably be a lion.

Tara:

It says

kelly:

I'm probably a panther.

sean:

Yeah. There you go.

Tara:

Breathe. Play. This is all in BDSM.

kelly:

I mean there's a lot in BDSM. That's like a whole another. Breathe play is

Tara:

oxygen being choked.

kelly:

That is a whole nother animal. But I

Tara:

do like to be

kelly:

choked.

Tara:

I do enjoy that. Breathe. Play is B-D-S-M-A sexual act of restriction. One's oxygen too. And flt an erotic experience.

kelly:

Don't do that

Tara:

to me. Don't kill me. But crazy. They can be done alone.

sean:

Don't like to be choked. What's that? What people like to be pissed on? Golden showers. It is another kink. You ever peed on anybody? Yeah, I've had me drink it. I, I dated some crazy guys. I'm not gonna lie. Shit. My friend pissed in some girl's mouth in the shower.

Tara:

Yeah. I'm not, I don't like it. I'm not, I've been pissed on. I don't like it. It's not my cup of tea.

sean:

There is nothing sexual about that. No, it's humiliating.

Tara:

I think

sean:

you're just taking a piss and it's over.

Tara:

Yeah, it's good thing I did it in the shower. It's not something I like the warm piss being all over my body. Yeah, I'm good.

sean:

It's not sexual in any way. Any shape or form.

Tara:

No, neither is feces. What's up with these bitches? You ever watch

sean:

that un soft white underbelly? Gotta watch it, man. They interview all kind of different people, like a lot of people from Skid Row or the Appalachian Mountains. They're just interesting people. People that were prison guards people into sex changes, people that's been on drugs. It's just a wide range of stuff. So they interview people like that. And there's one guy who likes to eat shit. He has a girl that he pays to eat a certain way so that the feces will be a certain way so you don't get sick. Ew.

Tara:

I don't see how that is because feces and adrenal will make, if you eat it, it will make you sick. You can die from eating feces.

sean:

That's fucking crazy. It's one thing to be shit on. That's still gross. Remember that one, that video, back in the day it was super popular. Three girls in a cup. What? Girl, where you been? Type in three girls in a cup and watch it. They're all sucking off a turd. Somebody shits in the cup and there's three girls is making out with a turd. Ooh. Sucking it off, stroking it, and playing in it. Oh my God. It was very viral. Very viral. I've never seen neither one of you two heard of this.

Tara:

No, that's fucking gross. I'm good on the tur. Type it in Google right now.

sean:

It You won't see the video, obviously, but you're gonna see something. Maybe they'll blur it out or something. But this thing was like a fucking big deal 15 years ago. I'm gonna have to guess. I saw it. I was very grossed out by it. This girl's ass was like a fucking, the chocolate ice cream that comes out the ice cream machine at McDonald's. Like they pumped it into a her she shit. In a cup. And they all just had fun with it. I was like, are you seeing anything? it was on rotten.com. Anybody remember that?

kelly:

I do remember that thing, but I don't remember that.

Tara:

Three girls in a cup. I'm coming up with all these bitches doing stack cups.

kelly:

Yeah, it's

Tara:

not on here, babe. I don't see it. Do you see it?

sean:

No. I'm looking at PornHub right now'cause they said it was on here. Oh really?

kelly:

You said I'm looking at porn now?

sean:

No, not watching the videos. It just shows the videos. I can type tap onto and watch it. No, this thing is so explicit, guys that this fucking thing, probably even on the internet no more. It's that fucked up.

kelly:

Oh yeah.

sean:

I don't know. It's like I'm on, I'm using my iOS instead of Google. To see if I can get somebody even talking about it. At least uncensored. Two girls, one cup shock video. Extremely shocking video. Two girls doing some questionable things with one cup. Here's somebody talking about it. Ooh. Is there pictures of this? No, these are people doing, being wannabes right here. Let's see if I can get any images outta that. I remember seeing it and I was like super grossed out. No, it's not there.

Tara:

It just makes me sick thinking about it. I wonder if it was just like a brownie shaped, like a turd. It couldn't have been real.

sean:

All right, so I'll read this one thing, two girls in one cup. It's by far the most well-known shock site in the history of the internet. In the mid 2007. It spread like a wildfire and had everyone from all walks of life talking about it and sharing it with the friends and the years following, it has been discussed by many celebrity interviews featured in movies, family guy episodes, and much more so while the original Site Two Girls and one cup.com, that's what it was called, was sold many years ago and has since been taken down. We have added it into our shock site archive, so that it may live on forever. Is it on here? Oh shit. People tried to make something else extreme and be the next thing, probably. Oh my motherfucking God. Did he find it? Did you find it? Oh, my motherfucking no. I'm gonna be scarred for life again. You've already seen it. I don't know if I don't think I got through the whole thing, but I got the video right here.

Tara:

I gotta see if

sean:

it's real. This might be the, no, this

Tara:

is it. It's got, I gotta see if it's real. I don't know if it's real turd. It could be made up like a brownie. Looking like a tur. All you gotta do is hit play I don't prepare to be, you're not kinky like this. Okay. No, I don't eat shit. I don't think shit is sexual. I think it's disgusting. Just watch it.

sean:

That came out of her ass. Nope. Keep watching. No, I'm good. All it gets better.

Tara:

Oh no.

sean:

All it gets better.

Tara:

They're literally licking it and eating it out of a cup. I saw her shit it out of her ass. I'm beginning to wonder if that they just shot stuff up in her ass and made her poop it out. That's a damn good theory because there's no way you could eat feces like that. It's impossible.

kelly:

That's just gross.

Tara:

Okay. This is, and it was like

sean:

smooth ice cream McDonald's shed, yeah.

Tara:

All right. This is my theory. It's not real.'cause there's no way they're licking it, eating it. They're eating. Literally eating it. Okay. So if you do a good cleansing down there and you clean and clean, I know exactly what they did. You know that chocolate mousse? That's exactly what it looked like. Chocolate.

sean:

No.

Tara:

You don't think?

sean:

No

Tara:

I do because it was brown. It wasn't, it was

sean:

the off cut. If you watch more of the video,

Tara:

If you make chocolate icing, if you make real chocolate icing at home, it's brown. It is not black.

sean:

It's in that girl's mouth and it looks like a yellowish brown.

Tara:

It's not real. There's no way, the way they're eating it, there is no way. They did pump it up in her ass though, and she did shit it out into a cup. They did a lot of editing to this shit.

sean:

Really hope so. Yeah, they did.

Tara:

They,

sean:

but what about the guy in soft white underbelly? He admits that he eats shit. That's not a secret.

Tara:

Okay. That's a different guy. But they made millions on that one video because of that. And it's fake. There's no way. That's real feces. They would die. I don't know how dudes eating shit and not dying

sean:

I don't know what possess people to even wanna do something like that.

kelly:

That's like people eating the foam and the cushion and shit. What are you doing to your body?

Tara:

Do you know how these women, I think it's called flacking, where the inside of their ass comes out and it comes all red and shit. I've, I know you've seen it on Pornos, right?

sean:

No.

Tara:

No.

sean:

How was that?

Tara:

It's called Flacking or something where the inside of their ass comes out and it's all red and shit. That there, that was not real. There's no way that was real. They made it look real, that's for sure.

sean:

And why is it off the internet?

Tara:

Because Made, why did they ban? It made they ma it made it because it, but it's not because

sean:

there's nothing illegal about eating chocolate ice cream out of a cup.

Tara:

But they're making it, everybody believe it. Shit.

sean:

You, there's no law against making people believe something. Look what Eminem did on records.

Tara:

But that's what I'm saying. I don't believe it's real. No one can shit on command. Can you shit on command?

sean:

No.

Tara:

Okay. It's not real.

sean:

No. Okay. Huh? Maybe it ain't. We'll just say it ain't real. So we'll feel better. This is crazy. There's no

Tara:

way they made millions off that motherfucking video. Yeah, they did. And it looks like chocolate mousse to me. It does not look like real shit. And it was way too soft to be real. Shit. Like a real turd. It wasn't a turd, it was soft mousse chocolate mousse. It really was. It looked like chocolate MOUs. And chocolate mousse is brown. It's not black. It's like a light brown. Even when I make homemade chocolate icing at home, it's a brown. It is not dark black or chocolate is a brown. And that's exactly what it looked like to me. Icing chocolate icing.

sean:

Oh. Then here you can watch it. I'll finish watching it. That's all it is just chocolate ice cream. That's what it looks like. There you go. Watch that chocolate ice cream. Them two girls that were going to town, it's got chocolate. You can hear the music in the fucking headset. That's funny. It is just ice cream. There's a couple pieces of corn in there too.

Tara:

Oh, and she puked on it and puked it up, and now they're puking each other's mouths. Wait a minute, it's just ice cream. Why are you grossed out? Because they're actually puking in each other's mouths. Ooh, it's a different when it's fake shit. Ugh. You're gonna make me puke. You're gonna make me

sean:

fucking puke. We're over here talking about shit. That is the rast porn in history. Oh my God. You want what? You don't get any more wild than that. What else could you do? There's nothing else you could do that's not extreme.

Tara:

And they're putting their fingers down each other's throats and puking in each other's mouths.

sean:

I forgot that was added in there. Nobody's

Tara:

gonna wanna listen to my fucking podcast

sean:

ever again. Ever again. We're just too fucking rated. NC 17, you remember that? Like back in the day?

Tara:

Oh no, it's my podcast is rated triple X rated R.

sean:

Oh wow. It's a fuck. Yeah,

Tara:

I did that a long time ago. It's Triple X rated R.

sean:

That's cool.

Tara:

We over here talking about puking in people's mouths and shit,

sean:

bro. It gets wild, man. It just gets wild that I just

Tara:

turned my stomach. We are some

sean:

basic freaks compared

Tara:

to what's out there. I am not vanilla, but I will not eat. No one's feces. We gotta cut this shit out. Find something else to talk about. The fuck. Oh my God, that video was disturbing.

kelly:

I'm glad I didn't see it.

Tara:

Very disturbing. Okay. It looked like these bitches was enjoying it.

sean:

Yeah, it's crazy.

Tara:

I don't know what the fuck they was thinking.

sean:

It was like in the beginning, old girl was sitting on a wooden chair and then some other chick come walking up looking like the substitute teacher and she starts sucking on her boobies and next thing you know, it's eating shit and fucking puking at each other.

Tara:

Oh yeah,

sean:

it rolled right into it.

Tara:

That was pretty fucking gross.

sean:

Now you've seen it all. Yeah. I thought I was weird. Flicking my asshole. Massage.

Tara:

No. That's actually a kind of fucking turn onto me.

sean:

It's

Tara:

cool. But it rules man. It fucking rules. It's just, and then unexplored area that men usually don't like to be explored.

sean:

It's not something I want every time. It's not I every time. No, it's not something you do every time. It's just wants a blue moon.

Tara:

Yeah. It's not something you do all the time.

sean:

Who likes lazy fucks? Not me. A guy fucking, when you're half asleep in the middle of the night and you're spooning and shit, just spooning.

Tara:

Let'em just pop one in. Oh, that's laying on your side and having side sex. Yeah. Yeah. Side sex. That's not lazy sex. Lazy sex is one of the fucking dude's twice your size, laying on top of you and actually just moving his torso. Oh my God. And his whole body weight's on you. Yeah, that's. Not fun. Not fun, huh? No. Get up on your knees. Get the fuck off me.

sean:

That is wild. There's some girls out there that can't ride for a fucking No.

Tara:

Now

sean:

I got a story. Everybody tune in.

Tara:

I've been to several country cowgirl, cowboy western bars and they have the mechanical bulls, right? There's this guy that runs it and you could tell when a girl could fuck when she couldn't.'cause the way she would get up there and ride that bull. Either you get into it and you get in the motions of riding the bull or you just get thrown off'cause you can't fuck.

sean:

Damn. Yeah. That's interesting.

Tara:

you can actually. Tell when a girl ride a bull, whether she can fuck or not.

sean:

I think that's been observed that I've been in a couple places. I had'em too. I forget what was that one up in players. It didn't last very long.

Tara:

There's that one. And then also like I go to the Zucchini Festival and there's a guy out there with mechanical bull too as well.

sean:

That's right. I like Zucchini Festival.

Tara:

That's my favorite. I go every year. Oh yeah. And anyways, I took my kids and they were at the concert and I went out to get some food and they were these girls that got up on this mechanical bull. They were friends. So the brunette gets up on the bull, tall, skinny, cute little thing. She hops up there and she's stiff as a board and stiff. She couldn't write a cock if you gave it to her and told her what to do, she still couldn't do it. Now you throw this little blonde up there and she's half the size and she's cute and tiny and petite and she gets into it. You can tell this bitch knows how to fuck, like you could see her body and her motions and he was doing it fast. He was doing it slow and she kept up with the beat. So you got your stiff stick girls that don't know how to fuck, or you got the ones that moved to the motion of the beat.

sean:

I've tried mechanical bull a couple times. I do okay for a little bit.

Tara:

Those are what you call dead fucks.

sean:

Dead fucks.

Tara:

The girl just lays there. I hate

sean:

a dead. Fuck.

Tara:

That's what I'm talking about. A stick that just lays there. That's why you can tell with some girls if they can have sex or if they can't, especially the way they dance too.

sean:

Do you ever think about that? Yeah, but I've seen girls that can dance fucking and ain't shit in bed

Tara:

for real. How is that? How can you have rhythm on the floor and not rhythm in the bed?

sean:

What's happened?

Tara:

We need to get a couple drinks in us. We're too stoned. I know

sean:

how about some other wild places? You guys were talking about the one at Parks, wherever. Name another place that's just,

Tara:

I've told this story so many times. I had sex in a pre-op operating room.

sean:

Really?

Tara:

Yeah. Before surgery. Before I had to have my hysterectomy. I had sex and they knew we were having sex and they waited until we were done.

sean:

What?

Tara:

Yeah.

sean:

How?

Tara:

I don't, maybe it was just in my head, but I think they knew. I think a lot of couples have sex right before the woman's about to have a hysterectomy. Why? I think why? Because you can't have sex for eight weeks after.

sean:

Oh, that makes sense. But not right there on the operating table.

Tara:

It was the pre-op berating room where you go in to get your clothes undone and you wipe down and you get on the gurney to go back to the operating room.

sean:

So they gotta remove this inside and there's a bunch of nut in there.

Tara:

We used tissues.

sean:

Tissues. I

Tara:

gotta catch it on something. I wasn't going about to let him inside me out. Okay, so he pulled

sean:

out then?

Tara:

Yeah. I had to I've done it at Cedar Point, Kings Island. So no more babies for you? Oh no. I had cancer. I had to get it taken out. So no, no babies for me.

sean:

Good though.

Tara:

I'm 46. I'm done. How many?

sean:

You already got your kids, so you ain't robbed of nothing,

Tara:

No, I'm not. Thank goodness.

sean:

That is pretty wild that you did it there.

Tara:

Yeah, and I've done it. Many parks many parks, amusement parks.

sean:

One of my favorite spots on Riverside Drive in Dublin. I've used that spot a couple times. There's like a like a gazebo. And the the support poles for it are like made of stones. And there's like a big bond, like a fireplace that's in there. Like it's open to the public. Anybody can use it. But for some odd reason, they leave that place open until 11 o'clock at night.

Tara:

I thought all parks closed at dusk.

sean:

Not this one. Signs even say, so I had cops come and talk to me and leave not in the middle doing shit like that. But I had a fishing license, so I would actually fish at night that's probably why. Yeah. So then I, I do that then for I'm trying to remember who I took there by my ex. There's like this rock gazebo house that's open to the public and it's open until fucking 11th. You could fuck off in there and nobody'd know it. Mine's just the ass play. I'm not like, I guess you could say I'm a freak. I'm down to do threesomes and do shit like that. I always get a rush from that kind of stuff too. But I've only had so many of those in my life. Maybe five incidents in life that I had threesome unless I'm forgetting a couple in my head somewhere. It's not my cup of tea. I've had too

Tara:

many of'em and it's mainly been girls.

sean:

Like three girls like you and two other girls. I've had that too. Yeah. How's that? It was fun. Just a bunch of girls having an orgy. I remember one time in San Diego, I was like 22. I was cool friends with this black chick and she was a lesbian. She didn't like, she barely liked dudes. She always flirted with me, but she always reminded me like I like chicks and stuff like that. And, but I really liked her. I thought she was super cool. And one time she actually kissed me one night, which I thought was crazy. So I thought it was a joke or something. But no, she made out with me for two minutes and then

Tara:

I have to say, you are a good kisser.

sean:

I am a good kisser. But she had her girl that, that she hooks up with come over and stay the night and she said you can sleep on the couch or whatever. We're gonna be fucking off back there, so hopefully you don't feel bad, oh yeah. Whatever. And I was like, hoping they would call me back there to at least watch. That's all I wanted to do is watch.'cause I didn't really think her friend was all that or anything. And she's about a six or seven give or take, but she, her attitude mix up for who she is, she's from New Orleans, she's from the south, so she talks like that and was living in San Diego. She always had people over drink, no drama, come kick it, we'll turn some tunes on, chill out. When that was still cool, and one time they were eating, eating each other out. They were fucking doing their thing. And I'm like, can I least this go back there? And fucking jerk off I was drunk. So I was brave. I didn't give a fuck. Liquid curd out. I came out, yeah. I came out the bathroom, took a piss and stuff. I could hear them moaning and stuff, and I'm like, oh, I hate you guys.

Tara:

Did you get to see anything?

sean:

Yeah, I watched. They let me come and watch. I just couldn't join.

Tara:

Oh, so you got to watch. Yeah. How was it?

sean:

I did myself too. I asked if that's cool. I'm like, this really is turned me on. I could just actually do myself right here and do your thing. And I was like, that was cool.

Tara:

That's nice ol

sean:

girl. Let me bust on her ass. That's what I got.

Tara:

Oh, how At least it wasn't on the floor.

sean:

It was just kinky. That's a kink, right? I didn't get no getting laid. I didn't get head, I didn't get nothing like that. It's just the fact that they're primarily just strictly fussy, my young 20 something looks at the time allowed me to at least get flirted with my lesbians.

Tara:

Oh, that's nice.

sean:

You know what I mean?

Tara:

Yeah. Hell yeah.

sean:

Now that's a high, yeah, that's what I call a high getting jerked off in Tijuana, Mexico at a club randomly. Come on puppy. That, that was a fucking turn on. So a lot of times when I masturbate, I'll think about incidents and stuff that I got to do in the past. Ooh, wild shit.

Tara:

So you think about your past experiences when you masturbate.

sean:

Yeah, I like it o over porn, I still watch porn sometimes, you get where I wanna get and hurry up and get it over with. But if I don't have that, I guess I, I'll start thinking about stuff like that. Yeah, I remember that time, man, that made me fucking like this one chick. I was like 16. This girl will probably be in prison right now, was the case. She, I, she lied. She said she was 25. Jesus. But I think she was 30. She had beginning crow's feet starting right here too. And I'm thinking, yeah, 20 something. I don't think so. Anyway, I was like 15 and 16 and this girl fucking jerked me off all the time. That's what got turned onto it. It was her. These days she'd be in prison. I'm a minor, right? But I think I probably look older from age, I was always tall and, stuff like that. I don't remember for the life of me where this all started. I know she used to sit on my lap all the time. And this girl, Nikki, used to like me down the block, would always talk shit like, oh, you over at Carla's fucking having sex with her? And so I'm like, no, I'm not. And I actually wasn't at the time, so I just, I got manipulated by her. I guess she just wanted a young boy toy, somebody young. Shit like, I'm brave, and I really wasn't. I was barely not a virgin. I've only had one girl before that, and I fucking busted early with this girl every time.'cause I didn't know how to control it in the beginning. It's like that for men. Yeah. We come quick. It's just, it's foreign, if you just feel that warm sensation, you just get off. So I don't have any control with that yet. And then that's when she'd have me come over all the time. She wouldn't fuck me. I think she'd knows. She'd get in trouble. I don't know if that was her scheme or whatnot, but she just busted out baby oil and I'd come over, hang out and drink these like Jack Daniel's down Home Punch when they came out. She had four packs of that laying around and then like she'd let me drink some. That was cool. Alone. I was drinking underage smoking cigarettes underage. Love it. Here I'm getting jerked off by a grown woman. This is fucking cool. I loved it. Like I said, if it was backwards and it was a girl with an older dude, that guy would probably, can't do that now, but I don't regret, I just love the experience I got from it. Truly. She did the whole thing. She taught me something. She had a cough drop and was giving me head. She didn't gimme head very often. It was mainly just jerking me off. I don't know why. Maybe that was her kink, could have been. It could have been. Yeah. Is that something more prevalent when you're young? Like foreplay was more strong. It was the halfway point between not having sex but still having some fun. Think back to when you're younger. I dunno if you ever fooled around or what you did when he was younger, but I,

Tara:

I like kissing. I like floor play a lot.

sean:

Yeah. So do I.

Tara:

So I've always

sean:

probably like it as much. Sex is great, but don't get me wrong, it's great, but,

Tara:

but if it don't have the floor play, it's not worth it to me. Like I need to be able to, I guess you could say brought up like build up to, to get to where I need to be, to

sean:

sometimes I like to have an orgasm in foreplay and then have sex afterwards. I, you know what I'm saying? Absolutely. Because I feel like once he had that second round. You start foreplay again, and then the second time it results into actual sex. Sometimes the sensitivity change. Yeah. That's why I like that.

Tara:

Why do you want your cigarette to taste like a fucking candy bar? I,

sean:

I don't know. I like cigarettes when I'm drinking though.

Tara:

I'll go. I like the smell of'em. Like I'll go to, to taste it, hit it and no. Ugh. The taste of my mouth is gross. How long have you quit smoking?

sean:

Five years, probably now

Tara:

13 for me.

sean:

Yeah. I don't think I'd ever be a full-time smoker ever again. I'll dip and dab. I still will, but. I'll have to bum from somebody or something, but I won't go out and bypass a pack or nothing. No, it just takes energy away from me. I don't feel so good when I smoke. I feel like shit for a good five minutes afterwards, get like a, like a false tiredness, and then I'll come back when you need another one. It's like your body asking for it again and again. It's like

Tara:

addiction.

sean:

My lungs feel better even with this. It may have some carcinogens or whatever, but for the most part it's if I don't do this, then I might have a hard time not smoking this is more popular than cigarettes now, so that ain't gonna happen. It's cheaper, it lasts longer. I spend 20 bucks and I like really cost me 50 cents a day to smoke. Now I'm still getting the nicotine from it. At first, I really couldn't get into it, but then I broke in and it worked. You smoke a vape? What kind is it menthol? Just menthol and tobacco? Yeah. What was that one? I liked a lot. It was like a fake marble old juice that you filled up with your thing. You cannot remember for the life. This vape pen is super expensive. It's got the magnetic carts, the carts that you can split up and refill. They're good for about five, six times. Mine was smaller than that.

Tara:

Mine is refillable for life until it, the battery. I've had a couple batteries break on me or quit working, but

sean:

you can usually hit us for quite a while.

Tara:

I just fill it up once a day another reason why I don't like sucking dick is'cause I got a small mouse

sean:

I think for girls that don't want to do it a long time, just don't you like, I know it's being explicit, but you stroke it. In between. That should save your mouth from putting all so much work into it. Make it mainly a head hand job, tell you, cheat you way around it. I guess I'll have to learn that one. Some girls like to choke on it. I don't require a girl to do that, but they can. One girl fucking just gave me a head and just kept choking over and over and over. It didn't stop till I was done. I said, oh my God. How was that for her though? I'm wandering. Oh my God. Like I got off. It worked, couldn't swallow all that. She had spit some of it out in the sink. Yeah. Wow. Her mouth got full. I just never seen a girl do that. Her lips is down by the nuts, so I can stay there and I'm not doing that. She's doing that. Damn. I'm like, you don't have to do that. God whatever. A gag reflex bitch. Yeah. She was come hungry. I guess

Tara:

I knew a girl that would never ever let her guy come. Like she swallowed every fucking drop of it. Every fucking time. That's a fetish,

sean:

swallowing come. Most girls do swallow. But I've had Do they mostly do? I don't require it either. They can spit it out if they want or they can let it fly out and watch it, that's fine too. I get into it all, my utmost experiences, girls just swallow it.

Tara:

You better. Lot of motherfucking pineapple. For me to be swallowing that shit tastes like salt. Never. Have you ever tasted it your own? Come before? No. No, I don't. No. Okay. I was just asking. Some guys have. Some guys haven't. Yeah. That's not a thing. It's salty.

sean:

That's what girls say. Berry. I hate salty. So you just tell'em, Hey, tell me before you go. You just stand back. Usually.

Tara:

I could tell

sean:

Yeah. If my legs start jerking. Yeah.

Tara:

Usually there's a tell.

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