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Minimum Bet Limits.. Are They Really A Necessity?

• Allan Hillzinger • Season 1 • Episode 9

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This episode is an essential listen for betting enthusiasts and those keen to keep their fingers on the pulse of the racing & sporting worlds. 

Strap in for a wild ride with Allan and Ryan as they dissect a roller coaster week for the Chasebet community. 

The latest podcast doesn't shy away from the nitty-gritty of last Saturday's race day drama, where despite some losses, last weeks savvy predictions had some listeners laughing all the way to the bank.

Not just talking horses either—the Rugby League and AFL threw some unpredictable passes, and they're breaking down every play. From the shifting premiership odds to the  rise of the Dolphins, they're serving up unfiltered insights on the world of sports betting.

Allan remembers the buzz of the Doomben 10,000 and they question why this years race appears to be much smaller than either can remember.

The devil's in the details and Damian tackles the gritty issue of minimum bet limits (MBL's) in NSW greyhound racing—proposing a fairer system for all to keep the industry thriving.

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Speaker 1:

Welcome to we Betcha, a betting podcast dedicated to providing comprehensive information, tips and education that will take your punting entertainment to another level. I'm your host, alan Hilsinger from Chasebet sporting CEO, professional gambler, now bookmaker. Tune in as I unleash my sometimes unconventional approach and views on all the current sports and races. Chasebet encourages responsible gambling. Imagine what you could be buying instead. For free and confidential support, call 1-800-858-858 or visit gamblinghelponlineorgau. Or visit gamblinghelponlineorgau. As is the case every week, we've got the pilot, Ryan Friedman, joining us to review the week that was for Chasebet and the Punners mate. How was it? How was last week?

Speaker 2:

It was a battle mate.

Speaker 1:

It was a battle Saturday in particular, I've got to say, besides the fact that you tipped the listeners- a fantastic winner, mate.

Speaker 2:

I can afford a Sunday with my Happy Meal this week after that. But yeah, as you can hear, we're continuing to work as we do this podcast, as we do every week. But look, yeah, no, it was good to see Furious get up, mate, for the podcast listeners, and you never know, we might have another one this week. Let's hope.

Speaker 1:

Love it, mate. Look forward to rolling around there. So it was a bit of a tough week all round. What were some of the decent bets, mate? Did we see any good wins Did we see, or was it just a bit of a mixed bag, mate it?

Speaker 2:

was a really, really odd satellite to chase, bet. I mean, as you know, you and I were quite active ourselves working satellite and yeah, it was a real struggle from our perspective.

Speaker 2:

It just seemed to be like every race we were losing on for a large part of the day and you know, as the day went on and some rougher results came in, obviously allowed us to sort of crawl back into the fight. But the punters probably did come up on top on satellite, that's for sure, and we did see a number of punters back for years as well. So that didn't help. Situations did it Really.

Speaker 1:

No, not at all, mate, not at all. And I think at one stage you and I both said if we were punting today it would be an absolute fill-up with the amount of firmers and amount of runners that they backed. I mean, the evening changed around a little bit. I think some of the Greyhound results changed that a little bit as well, but yeah, overall was probably a real mixed bag. What about in the sports, mate? Just take us through. Let's start with the Rugby League. What happened with the Rugby League? And then what are our bets? Early bets so far this week and any changes in the premiership market.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, well, so rugby league was a tricky one last week. It was sort of a lot of hit and miss results, wasn't it? We saw people betting on overs and unders quite heavily throughout the weekend and ultimately it was pretty much a split between punters and chase bet across most games on the weekend, which is a nice change, probably a win to us on the head-to-head and a win to the punters on the overs and unders, would you say, this week.

Speaker 2:

I would agree with that. Yeah, for sure it was a little bit different in the AFL. We obviously had a much better week in the AFL with some, you know, fight results, some draws and all that kind of stuff, and obviously teams like Essendon rolling, rolling GWS, and you know we had some big bets on North Melbourne in the AFL, obviously to cover the line, I think 41.5, and Gold Coast beat them by 70 points. So the AFL was a little bit different result, better results for us, but the NRL was definitely a split I'd say mate for sure.

Speaker 1:

What have we got in the market, in the premiership market? Did we see any changes on the back of a few of those results? I mean, the Sharks beat the Storm Roosters put the Warriors away, and the Warriors we were routing them from the bed earlier in the season, but they're starting to, I think, slip further and further away. Broncos were very impressive against the Eels.

Speaker 2:

Oh, they were, and I mean they're $5, the Broncos Penrith they were $3 last week, you know just drifting up a couple of roles to $3.25 now With Nathan.

Speaker 1:

Cleary, I think the Nathan Cleary factor. He's out injured again. It's been a little bit of a hampered season for him. I would dare say they definitely need him to win the premiership I mean the good side, don't get me wrong without him, but they need a healthy Nathan to win it. So that might be a little bit of drift there, just on the basis of that injury maybe, mate.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I'd say so. I mean, you know obviously a marquee player and ultimately, you know, one of the best players in the league. So, and yeah, obviously that's the reason why they have drifted from three to 325. The fam is certainly the Brewsters they're into. Equal second favourites of $5. Starting to regain some form Melbourne Storm, $6.50. And then Cronulla at $7.50. And they've cleared right out those five. Next in line, here's the one that we spoke about last week, the Dolphins $26.

Speaker 1:

There we go and they're playing well, mate. They're playing well. I mean, they beat Manly, but it really does look, as you can see, winning it, especially come finals time, with consistency right.

Speaker 2:

I would think so. Who do you think makes up the eight?

Speaker 1:

Oh, you know what, at this time of season, that's probably a really, really good question as well, because you can still bet on the top eight. Look, I think the Dolphins will be there. I think it would be great for the sport to see the Dolphins there. I just don't know who knocks them out, because you look down the list and you go, you've got Dolphins, raiders, sea Eagles, and then you've got Bulldogs, knights, dragons, cowboys, eels. I think the Warriors are in a world of pain now. Parra could get on somewhat of a run, cowboys could get on a run. Can't see the Dragons making it. Don't know if the Bulldogs are consistent enough. Yeah, that's probably an even tougher decision there.

Speaker 2:

We could probably have a whole podcast on that, to be honest with you, sorry, probably have a whole podcast on that.

Speaker 1:

To be honest with you, absolutely could mate, absolutely could. So the AFL the results did fall Chase Betts' way last week. It might have been the week before that we copped a flogging in the AFL two weeks ago, but bounce back this week. It was a tough one for the punters that bet with us. Anyway it was, I mean, you know, carlton A couple of those bets, mate.

Speaker 2:

Yeah well, we had some really big bets on Geelong at the line to beat Port Adelaide. Port Adelaide, obviously, rolling Geelong, yeah that was huge. Yeah, and that might be just what the power needs. I mean, they're very much.

Speaker 1:

We were spruiking them early in the season. Then we bagged them out and said they can't win.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, and now we're saying, well, maybe that's just what they need. They kick up the backside, they need and look, look, I mean, at the end of the day is I mean? I think if you spoke to every AFL fan in the country, they would probably tell you that at the start of the year they probably would have thought the power would be one of the sides up there vying for the premiership this year and they've been really super disappointing. So look, now that they've beaten DeLong confidence, we might start seeing you know, a better form of the power, obviously after being beaten in the showdown the week prior. So yeah, they're a bit of an anomaly. The power aren't they.

Speaker 1:

Isn't he looking strong again that they really have started to put the right together and probably deserve to be favourites? Have they moved into favourites again? Have they gone back in there or Geelong maintaining that? What are we looking at in the market there?

Speaker 2:

Yeah, look, I mean, I personally still don't see it. But yeah, I mean, as you know, I've been pretty heavily bagging them for the last four weeks. And I mean, you know, at $4.50, which they are. You know they're $4.50 now, sydney and the favourites you can't see them getting much tighter than that.

Speaker 1:

Surely even comes finals time. Like can you really see them getting in any shorter than that?

Speaker 2:

I can't believe that, bryce. I just, yeah, I mean, look, not for me, not in this, over it's not like there's.

Speaker 1:

no, it's not like even the rugby league, where there's only really a handful of teams. There are genuinely some teams that could if they got hot. Yes, we've bagged out Brisbane, even Port Adelaide, throughout the season, but they're teams that if they got hot at the right end of the season they're not out of it, whereas in the rugby league, even if a team got hot out of that top five, you just can't see them winning.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, yeah, and I think the sides that I'm looking at for the AFL premiership are still that second, third line of betting. You know your Carpens, collingwoods Geelong.

Speaker 2:

Melbourne I still feel that those four sides in particular, you know Carpens, collingwoods, geelong, melbourne, they are the four sides to beat, and then behind them you've got your Sydney's, your Power, your Lions and maybe even the Dons mate, you know, essendon are starting to play pretty consistent football too. But look to me, you know, now I'm seeing Geelong at 750. You know to me them, and Collingwood at 750, arguably, I still believe, the two best sides in the league. I'd be taking those sort of odds, to be honest with you.

Speaker 1:

There you go, Mate. What bets are we taking this week? Any good bets to share with the punters that they can follow in?

Speaker 2:

Yeah, yeah, actually, in that Sydney Carlton game that's probably going to be, it's going to be an absolute crapper on Friday night. So I do apologise if I'm pretty quiet on the Zoom chat with the Chasebet staff on Friday night, because that's going to be a really good game there. We're continuing to see money on Sydney at the line.

Speaker 1:

So which what's? The line at the moment, mate, is it 12.5?

Speaker 2:

Yeah, it is, mate. Yeah, so it's Sydney minus 12.5, carlton plus 12.5, $1.50 straight out $2.55, carlton. But yeah, we've taken a $2,000 bet on Sydney at minus 12, 12.5 and another $1,000 bet on Sydney minus 12.5. The biggest individual bet that we have taken on the AFL is actually against your side, which is GWS at minus 14.5. At $1.90, we've taken a bet of $5,000 at that. So it's beat the Western Bulldogs.

Speaker 1:

Let's go, the doggies Double reason. Normally my teams are the ones getting backed and I'm always torn, but that's going to be a ripper to be able to cheer them home.

Speaker 2:

So beautiful game, mate. Yeah, yeah, so that's the best bet we've got on the AFL this weekend.

Speaker 1:

Outside of that in the sporting world, have we got any other decent bets or anything you like? The EPL you've been firing away. You've given a couple of good winners throughout the last few weeks, yeah.

Speaker 2:

This week, yeah, so yeah, it's a bit of a sad weekend for me, so you know all the sides will kick off at 1 o'clock Sunday morning. There's obviously a couple of games during play midweek. This won't obviously come out until Thursday, so the last game of this round will be played Thursday morning. So yeah, so all the sides are going to be playing at the same time, so we'll have a promo, as we always do, on the three legs the chase the favourites kind of thing.

Speaker 2:

Trying to shop for value for you guys, I think Brighton Hove Albion at home against Manchester United even money, I think is a pretty good bet. They've been brilliant all year at home. Manchester United have been absolutely woeful. Yeah, I'd be taking $2 about Brighton Hove Albion. And then obviously we've got the racing with the Doombin 10,000 and everything as well.

Speaker 1:

Mate, racing-wise, let's switch to that. Racing-wise, what is it Like? The Doombin 10,000, I remember going out to the Doombin 10,000. My old man was extremely good friends with former, former former race caller Larry Pratt now passed away. He was just a great guy and we used to go out there and go into the member stands. And I'm talking, I was a real little boy, mate. I don't remember seeing such a small field. To me it was always big fields, usually raining. Yeah, what's going on? What do you think's going on? Is there just so much racing at the moment? Is it similar to the greyhounds in the horse racing that there's just so much racing? Or is it such a compact schedule, or what's going on?

Speaker 2:

I've got absolutely no idea. I'm absolutely flabbergasted to only see nine runners in this race. I mean, don't get me wrong, it's a pretty good field. I mean, I't get me wrong, it's a pretty good field. I mean I wish I win. Makes the field that's a great field, that's a good field. Yeah, I mean I wish I win. Makes the field, though you take, I Wish I Win out left with Private Eye, Mazu Bella, Nipatino, Chain of Lightning. They're not, let's be honest, they're not what I'd say superstars.

Speaker 1:

They it's a good quality. Right, it's a good quality, but you know it doesn't feel like a real.

Speaker 2:

No, you know, look, I mean to me on paper, I wish I win. It looks a winner. I mean it was 220. It's already been backed into 195. It wouldn't surprise me if it starts 180. So look yeah, very disappointing, very disappointing.

Speaker 1:

Any money for Espionna?

Speaker 2:

No, mate, no, not really. It was a little sprinkling. It was $750 into $650 now Espiona, but the money ultimately has been on I Wish I Win $220 into $195. So yeah, it's certainly the largest amount of money, certainly on the favour of I Wish I Win. And I believe that Chain of Lightning, if it runs well in the Doom of 10,000, is going to be going to Ascot to race over there in the UK.

Speaker 3:

That'll be awesome.

Speaker 2:

That will be great, that will be great, but once again, you know, I had a look at the Diamond Jubilee markets and they've got Chain of Lightning, who's let's be honest good horse, but more like a second stringer. Here it's come up favourite for the Diamond. Jubilee. So that just shows you the differences you know. So look, I think I Wish I Win is really nicely placed in this event and the action will be very hard to beat.

Speaker 1:

Mate, anything else? What else are we looking at? Oh, we've got the scone, or the scone or whatever, depending on where you are and how you pronounce it.

Speaker 2:

The scone.

Speaker 1:

The scone. What have we got going on over the weekend there, mate, friday and Saturday, they've got a massive, massive event there. They do a massive, massive event there.

Speaker 2:

They do. Yeah, it's obviously their feature program with racing on Friday and Saturday and obviously culminating in the Luskin Star States, which I think's race nine on Saturday. A lot of these horses are your group two, group three fringe horses that we see quite regularly racing on Saturday afternoons. I see that in the Laskan Star, amenable has come up as favourite at $3.90. Jimmy Star went to Queensland, had one run, is returning back down for this event. We've got some interesting calls at $4.80. And then we go further out to runners like Tamerlane at $5.00. And then we get the double figures on a horse like Kinlock who was very impressive last time out but not seeing a lot of money in that particular race.

Speaker 1:

What about the Scone Cup on the Friday mate? Have we seen much money there, Like 20 horse field Scone.

Speaker 2:

Cup.

Speaker 1:

We haven't seen any scratchings at this point. What are we looking at there? It's going to be a wide, open market. I'm assuming that Nugget or Waterford have come up favourites.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, nugget. Nugget is the $4.20 favourite further out to Waterford at $4.80. We have actually seen a little trickling of money for Berkshire Shadow as well. Just trying to see what else we've got here, we're taking a couple of hundred each way on Lions Raw there for John O'Shea, so that's not a huge amount of real large interest at the moment in the Scone Cup. But, like I said, we've seen some sprinkling on Saturday as well. I'll tell you what just looking here, we've actually seen a decent bet here in the two-year-old challenge. On Friday We've got a $3,000 bet on number three, la Plaine Loon for David Hayes and Regan Bayless. It's yeah firm right up. Looking at this, the punters shot well with us 225 into 175. So yeah, they've certainly shot well with us there.

Speaker 1:

Mate, it's going to be a fantastic. It's seriously going to be a fantastic weekend. Like we said, the Doobin 10,000 on one hand is exciting but on the other hand, somewhat a little bit disappointing in the field numbers, but away from that, the numbers of runners in a number of other races, I think it's going to be a fantastic, fantastic weekend of racing. Give us your tips, mate. You've been on absolute fire on here on SEN Radio. You've been tipping winners everywhere and you just want to follow someone in when they're tipping winners. You just want to keep following them in. When they're not tipping winners, you just want to wait, don't you?

Speaker 2:

Well, every time I don't tip your winners, you usually like to start yelling at me. So I just you know.

Speaker 1:

Got to get used to tipping them, mate. What have we got? What's your picks this week? What's the roughy this week?

Speaker 2:

Well, I'm going to dive back in my black book. There's one in Melbourne racing that we spoke about the other week. It was the heaviest back runner all weekend was the Matt race in Adelaide. It's now going to Melbourne. It's come up $2.80 and I really think this horse is going to be a big player come Spring Carnival in the staying races. I definitely think the Matt can win that race. It's short, $2.80. I don't like tipping horses that are short. So we're going to go to Scone on the Saturday and we're just going to have a little bit of jam on this horse. Alright, we're going to have a little bit of jam a little bit of butter.

Speaker 1:

Hopefully collect some cream.

Speaker 2:

And hopefully collect a bit of cream, which we know that you love. And that's race five, number three, ivan's Hero. Each way, mate, it was three wide the trip last start on speed and still battled away very nicely. Only get beaten by two lengths Draws much better Big open spaces there at Scone We'll find ourselves on pace. Looking at the speed, mate, doesn't look like a huge amount of speed in it, so hopefully you can sort of sit one-one or you know one out two back something like that and Pounce Lake.

Speaker 2:

It would be very, very hard to beat around the $10 mark.

Speaker 1:

Mate, surely at Scone, a jockey with a last name of Berry, tommy Berry, would have to have a fill-up weekend, wouldn't he? Well, mate, actually that's a great idea.

Speaker 2:

The Berries could really be dominating at Scone absolutely.

Speaker 1:

Mate, he's got to, surely he's going to have a filler.

Speaker 2:

Well, let's hope At $10, I'm certainly going to be having something on for sure. Love it, mate, love it.

Speaker 1:

Any other last-minute tips there, mate or any other last-minute moves in anything we haven't spoken about.

Speaker 2:

No, not really, Obviously. Yeah, the last week of the EPL. So yeah, yeah, man City two points clear over Arsenal. They need to lose to obviously and Arsenal to win to obviously give up the title. Celtic beating Rangers on the weekend was fantastic and you're about a couple of days off, mate, so hopefully nice and refreshed and ready to rock and roll for this weekend of racing buddy.

Speaker 1:

You're a legend, mate. I look forward to reviewing it again next week and having a look at the tips, and I would dare say there might be a winner or two that we're reflecting on again. So thanks, rhino. I appreciate it, mate, take it easy, mate.

Speaker 2:

Thanks, mate, be right back, See you, see you.

Speaker 1:

On to our black bookers, and we've got a few this week. So we'll start with New South Wales. We've got Ultimate Riot and Ricky Rocks, so two dogs that have raced out in the Riverina. So Ultimate Riot and Ricky Rocks. So two dogs that have raced out in the Riverina. So Ultimate Riot and Ricky Rocks. We head up to Bundy and a dog Central Queensland Champagne Torps is one to follow. And then we've got a few dogs in Queensland. We've got Pitch, black Bear, roger, take a Shot and Slack. So seven dogs in total for our black bookers. New South Wales, ultimate Riot and Ricky Rocks. Central Queensland we've got Champagne Talks, and then in southeast Queensland we've got Pitch, black Bear, roger, take a Shot and Slack. So that's our black bookers, based on well-backed runners who ran good races and, I believe, will win very, very soon.

Speaker 1:

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Speaker 1:

Dayma, we've been talking a lot about the hottest topic in racing at the moment, which is mbls, and for those that don't know what mbls are, they're referred to as minimum bet limits, and the minimum bet limits are requirements the bookmakers have to bet on certain events, be that greyhound racing, horse racing or harness racing in different states. Now, for those that don't know, certain states do not have minimum bet limits for certain bookmakers, so there's different requirements around it, and I mean that could be a whole topic in itself. I won't go into too much detail, but what I wanted to touch on with you today, damien, was greyhound racing, which is our biggest passion, of course, and the rules in New South Wales and why you have recently put a discussion or some thoughts, and you hope that they take them forward to Greyhound Racing New South Wales. Can you explain how they work in Greyhound Racing New South Wales and then what you have proposed, because I think it's really, really interesting for the listeners out there to understand.

Speaker 3:

Okay, Firstly, at GRNSW or under the New South Wales Greyhound product, if you don't turn over more than $15 million annually, which I think is a pretty high bar.

Speaker 1:

Is that on Greyhound Racing in New South Wales, or is that $15 million as a business?

Speaker 3:

No, no, $15 million only on Greyhound Racing in New South Wales. Or is that $15 million as a business? No, no, $15 million only on Greyhound Racing in New South Wales.

Speaker 1:

How many bookmakers would there be? Sorry to interrupt there, like how many bookmakers I mean off the top of your head?

Speaker 3:

I'm thinking under 10 and we've got how many 100, you know, over 100 online. Yeah, and there's some big names and I won't mention the big names but some of the leading Sydney Rails bookmakers have an exemption from the MBL of you know.

Speaker 1:

Greyhound Racing.

Speaker 3:

New South Wales Greyhound Racing, New South Wales, which I think is troubling you know.

Speaker 1:

So for those top five, top ten, let's just call it 10. We don't know what the exact number is we hadn't worked that out but let's just say we'll call them the top tier that are doing the $15 million. What do they have to bet somebody? Yeah.

Speaker 3:

Well, that's a good question. I bet to lose 750. In New South Wales, the same as Victoria, they do have a 500, I believe it's 500 country and 1,000 at the metros at Wentworth Park, which is less than, say, the on-course bookmaker at Wentworth Park. That has to bet to lose 1,500, and a lot more than what the New South Wales tab did, which is zero.

Speaker 1:

And they're holding a hell of a lot more obviously than the on-course bookmaker who has to bet.

Speaker 3:

So I just think that you know we need to look at a tiered level system. Obviously, you know we'll call them, you know, tier A, b and C. But I think every bookmaker that's betting on the new south wales greyhound product should have to bet to lose 500 at a bare minimum.

Speaker 1:

You really shouldn't be online and in the competition market without being able to bet 500, though right now I get it. You know different bookmakers. They don't want to bet certain people and there's all sorts of stuff in the background. But really, if you can't bet somebody to win 500, you probably shouldn't be an online bookmaker right.

Speaker 3:

So I was taught many decades ago. If you couldn't bet to lose a thousand dollars, what the hell are you doing?

Speaker 1:

you know, and it's not like you have to bet 20 people at the same time. It's not like you get 20 people at the same time trying to bet their five hundred dollars or their thousand dollars. It's five hundred dollars and then you're changing the price and then, if the net person bets, you're betting them to five hundred dollars and the price might change, etc. Etc.

Speaker 3:

That's if it does change you know, and we all have our, we all have t's and c's against you know, bowlers and losers and same-type fee addresses, you know. Yeah, you know, we've got to not focus on the 0.1% that might be trying to you know book one through.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, on their way around it, yeah.

Speaker 3:

But we've actually got to have a marketplace where 99.9% get a fair crack.

Speaker 1:

Well, what's interesting here, damo, is and I think this is something that you highlighted to me recently as well was if every bookmaker had to take them to $500, and let's just say it was 50 bookmakers, as an example, that they had a bet with they're on to win $500. With 50 bookmakers, they can get on to win $25,000. They're not trying to set up fake accounts. They're not trying to do that because they can get on to win their $25,000. Or if it's 100 bookmakers to win their $50,000 and all bookmakers share it, it's a small amount. Prices adjust, so it actually also eliminates not that it ever eliminates all of that stuff, but it certainly reduces a lot of the funny business that can go on in the background as well.

Speaker 3:

Well, it's a solid point, but I think we also need to look at how the industry is funded and obviously, you know, I wear a jewel hat sometimes, you know, sometimes I'm thinking about industry sustainability and, with all due respect, bookmakers need a sustainable industry or we aren't going to be here.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, and the industry needs bookmakers to be taking bets.

Speaker 3:

It's vice versa.

Speaker 1:

And sustainable. They need bookmakers to be sustainable as well.

Speaker 3:

yeah, so we need a profitable, sustainable industry. So we should be spreading that risk. You know, the online market should just be seeing us the Randwick bookmakers ring in 1970, where there was 100-plus bookmakers.

Speaker 1:

And you've got your choice and you can get on, as you said, your $500 with everybody, or to win $500 with everybody and away you go. And as you said, if it's Wentworth Park it's $1,000. Just take us through the rest of your proposal. So you're saying that every bookmaker should be at a minimum $500 in New South Wales Greyhounds, you know, I think you should tier it up pretty simply.

Speaker 3:

You know $500, $750, and surely the big boys can handle to lose $1,000. Yeah, and surely the big boys can handle to lose $1,000 or, you know, even $750, or a doubling of it on metropolitan meetings across Australia.

Speaker 1:

So you go $500 and $750, but on Metro you're, we could be bigger. We could be bigger $750 and $2,000 or whatever it happens to be.

Speaker 3:

I just think it's important, though, that we don't turn. I talk to a lot of punters that can't get set, and they're not big punters they're $200,000, they're $300,000 punters. You know we lose them to betting on other codes or other sports. That revenue is lost to the industry and and in time it'll be unsustainable, and I really urge administrators, especially GRNSW, to be taking some of this stuff on board.

Speaker 1:

What's the current reason they don't? Let's get quickly into that. What is the current reason that they are saying they don't have the mbl, when victoria has the mbl, queensland has the mbls?

Speaker 3:

well what they what they say. I'll put it in inverted commas, so I don't, you know, misquote anyone, is that it? You know smaller bookmakers won't be happy. Well, at the end of the day, the rules are the rules. You know smaller bookmakers won't be happy. Well, at the end of the day, the rules are the rules, you know. Today I got an email from Harness Racing, victoria, that said this is our minimum bet limits from the 1st of July no consultation. Them the rules. So if it's good enough for another state and another code, it should be good enough for New South Wales greyhound racing.

Speaker 1:

And, let's face it, like there's not many real issues. I mean I'm saying from bookmakers. Like we talk in the bookmaker world and you have a lot of people that you're connected with. We don't really hear any grumblings from bookmakers saying, oh, we shouldn't have to bet NBL in Queensland or Victoria. I just don't understand why New South Wales is behind the game.

Speaker 3:

You know. I just think it's an area that may have just been overlooked or missed in changes of CEOs, changes of CEOs, changes of, you know, executive staff. You know, now it's been highlighted.

Speaker 1:

Hopefully, hopefully, greyhound racing, new south wales. Do consider it, do look at it, do consult and make the changes acts the word I'm looking for now.

Speaker 1:

and actually and it's interesting too, because here we are saying this as a bookmaker and normally you'd think, oh, bookmakers are trying to find where they can save everywhere. But, as many people know you and I, you we talked about before yes, you've got your people that are trying to play silly buggers and use different accounts and all the rest of it, but in general, we are all for people using their own accounts and having a bet Put it on your own account.

Speaker 1:

Have a bet with us and have a bet with 20 other bookmakers? No worries, go for it. Yep. Have a bet with 20 other bookmakers? No worries, go for it. Yep, as you say. Have a fair bet Yep, fair price. You don't have to go and have $5,000 on with one bookmaker under another account when you can have $5,000 across 10 bookmakers in your own account. That's right, mate. Absolutely love it. I'm very interested. I think this will be a rewinded and we might even cut a little bit of this what was spoken about in the near future as to what New South Wales does, and in multiple ways One, if they haven't done anything, or two, if they do make changes and what changes they make.

Speaker 3:

And just before we go out, just a quick shout out We'll be track side at the Brother Fox on Saturday night at Dub Vegas. Mate, I know some of the bets at the Brother Fox on Saturday night at Dub Vegas.

Speaker 1:

Mate, I know some of the bets you took out there on Saturday night. I don't know who gets out, I don't know how much money is floating around Dubbo, but yeah, there were some big bets that were placed and both landed.

Speaker 3:

I might even make a rendition and go out to the winning post and maybe high-five the big man when we find a winner.

Speaker 1:

I'll be watching one or the other. We'll be seeing Mr Stiff just banging his piece of paper, or we'll see you high-fiving. I look forward to it. Thanks, steve, stay mate.

Speaker 3:

Cheers mate.

Speaker 1:

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