00:00 - Dwayne (Guest)
This is a testimonial about glucose treatment that Dwayne has been through and several other of us in our clubhouse. This is just for me to get on recording about the progress that Dwayne has had in the brain gang repair treatment using glucose as a supplement. All right, Dwayne and Davina is up here for backup too, in case there's a question that she thinks I probably should have asked. All right, okay, Dwayne how are you doing now? Can I hear you? 

00:33 - Temple (Host)
Yeah, there we go, is that a little better? 

00:36 - Dwayne (Guest)
It's a little better. You're probably just going to have to speak up for me. 

00:39 - Temple (Host)
Okay, I'll see what I can do. 

00:42 - Dwayne (Guest)
All right, you can do it. Okay. Well, thanks for doing this. I know it was short notice, and so what we're doing here today is I just want to ask Dwayne to give us an update on how the glucose supplementing has worked for him and explain the program a little bit. Dwayne, you're my buddy. We've known each other for a while Now. We're clubhouse buddies. We've known each other for a while Now. We're clubhouse buddies. We met through clubhouse right that's right. 

01:08 - Temple (Host)
Walking the streets of clubhouse. 

01:10 - Dwayne (Guest)
Yep Walking the streets of clubhouse, and the reason we met was because you wanted to come into my group about supporting the spouses of that had loved ones with bipolar and you wanted to be honest about your symptoms and how your life has affected your family. And you've been very transparent. 

01:31
you're one of the most honest people about your symptoms that I've met so far oh well, thank you so yeah and um, so I'm going to ask you just a little bit about where we started and where we're at. Okay, we started our glucose supplementing treatment and I'm not going to go into what all of that means right now, but glucose supplementing is basically using powdered dextrose as a supplement to raise the glucose in your brain. The treatment that Dr Stevens has come up with has been highly researched and you can find it on his website, which is peakneuropsych.com. And when I met him, I mean I found him. I've been in search of any neurologist that would talk to me about bipolar brain and it's been very unsuccessful. Most of them are just tell me to. You know, keep them on his meds and hope for the best. 

02:35
And, as you know, medication can do more harm than good a lot of times. And Chris, my loved one with bipolar, has been very sick the entire time and he's been medicated for 10 years. He's continued to rapid cycle, he's continued to have extreme mania and breakthrough symptoms and he's also had cognitive impairment. He's had short-term memory impairment. He struggles emotional regulation. All of those things have happened in the course of psychotic episodes, many manic breakthroughs and so forth. So, duane, can you tell me a little bit about what have been the main symptoms that you have been dealing with with bipolar, as far as mania, psychosis, rapid cycles, you know. Explain to me a little bit about what the worst parts of bipolar have been for you. 

03:31 - Temple (Host)
Oh, the worst parts for me to make a to make it fairly quick is that I spend a lot of time in like survival mode, I'd say, anxiety. I'm riddled with anxiety for the majority part of the day, where I don't even want to leave the house and leave the house for any reason. I find that I get stuck in a negative thought loop and things like that. It's really debilitating for me when it comes to my everyday, like my everyday living. So, from you know, just getting to work relationships, bipolar has been a rough go for me, right, it's been, as you know, lots of ups and downs and it's been a. It's been a rough, rough ride, I guess you could say. 

04:16 - Dwayne (Guest)
Yeah and Dwayne, you've been married for how long? 

04:20 - Temple (Host)
Uh, 25 years. 

04:21 - Dwayne (Guest)
Yes, so you and your wife have been walking through this together, so she's been with you through all the extreme parts, right? 

04:31 - Temple (Host)
Yeah, it's. It's been a nightmare for her, I mean as bad as it's been for me and the things that I go through, the people that live in the house with you. You know it's. It's a bad goal for everybody. I think it's fair to say. 

04:45 - Dwayne (Guest)
Yeah. So, dwayne, what about suicidality and self-harming? I know you've shared that with me before. Was that a consistent symptom? 

04:54 - Temple (Host)
Yes, that was daily, and a lot of times multiple times daily. So a lot of these ups and downs that I have, you know, riding the wave, so to speak, it's a lot of that. You know I can start off, okay, but then there's times where I'll think about it for two or three hours. 

05:08 - Dwayne (Guest)
Okay, and so you were, but you actually were cutting right. 

05:14 - Temple (Host)
Yes, yes, I've been doing that since I was 11. 

05:17 - Dwayne (Guest)
All right. Is there any symptoms of that currently? 

05:21 - Temple (Host)
It's not as bad. I noticed when I am up on the glucose, when I'm taking the larger amounts you know that I've worked up to a lot of that stuff diminishes. 

05:31 - Dwayne (Guest)
Okay. 

05:32 - Temple (Host)
And as I go, down it still comes back. 

05:35 - Dwayne (Guest)
Okay, but so far okay. Well, let's circle back to that. So anxiety has been debilitating. It's caused you to regress into your home and not want to leave, right? Yes, depression, suicidality, self-harm. What does mania, what did mania look like for you? Did it cause any extreme behaviors like running away or spending things like that? 

06:02 - Temple (Host)
Yes, all of the above. All of of the above. I remember a quick little story. I went to go and pick up a pack of guitar strings, right, so like around $20, not a big deal. I walked out with a $5,500 Les Paul guitar, so that's kind of, and I just showed up for a pack of strings. I had no inclination of buying a guitar, it just hit me and that was it. And I've got several stories like that of just random spending or, yeah, like the running away. You know that's an everyday thing too. 

06:37 - Dwayne (Guest)
The urge to run away. 

06:39 - Temple (Host)
Yeah. 

06:40 - Dwayne (Guest)
Okay, and why do you think your wife has been able to stay with you through this? 

06:47 - Temple (Host)
That's a question you'd have to ask her for sure. 

06:52 - Dwayne (Guest)
Well, I know the answer, but she's known, you know, she's known that this has been a bipolar brain problem for a long time and your access to care has been limited brain problem for a long time and your access to care has been limited. 

07:13 - Temple (Host)
Yeah, and I think the main thing for her is that she knows that bipolar is just a piece of me it's not really me and she knows that I can I'm not going to say get around it, but she knows bipolar is like it's the chemical issue in me, it's not who I am. So it's been nice because she's been, like yourself, going through the. 

07:31 - Dwayne (Guest)
You know ups and downs and you know weaving in and out trying to figure out how to help us through it yes, yes, I know, and she's a gem, and I love Arlie because I could see it in her that she sees you through bipolar right Past bipolar and you've always been somebody that's been very transparent. Not, you haven't been in in the dark Anytime that I've had conversation with you, even while you were sick, you owned up to your symptoms in the conversation. Sick, you owned up to your symptoms in the conversation. So I think that is what makes you kind of you know, an outstanding candidate for this type of treatment with glucose, because it takes a willingness right. Just like with medication or any type of treatment, if you don't show up for it, it's not going to work. So when I discovered dr stevens and that he was having success in brain repair for people that had severe traumatic brain injuries, long-term childhood traumas, severe ptsd things that were impacting the brain all the way up to psychotic disorders, adhd, ocd, bipolar chronic disorders, adhd, ocd, bipolar schizophrenia I was shocked that what he was proposing was as simple as adding a glucose supplement to your life right, that almost seemed like that's too good to be true. That makes no sense. 

08:59
However, I've been studying the brain for a long time too, trying to figure this thing out Like how do we help my husband's brain? And while I was in college and studying mental health, of course they taught me about the brain a little bit, but really it was the deep dives that I took on the function of the brain and the first thing that came up about brain function. How does the brain function? What does it use to function? What's its fuel? It says in the science book, in the anatomy books, that it's glucose. 

09:31
You know, light bulb went off like well, what does that mean? So I just started making him smoothies every day. You know like I better just get him smoothies. He needs glucose in his brain. He needs glucose in his brain. He needs glucose in his brain. And the smoothies, he loved them. He was sucking them down like candy. And when I met Dr Stevens, I told him that I believed that my husband was deprived of glucose because when he came back from a psychotic break, I intuitively felt that I needed to pump him full of fresh juices and smoothies. And I was juicing fruits and vegetables all day and he was loving it and he was responding well to it. But the symptoms didn't stop. But his moods were better and he was really enjoying drinking the juice and drinking the smoothies. It seemed like something he wanted, and Dr Stevens explained to me that it's because I was on the right track. But we were missing a huge piece. 

10:31 - Temple (Host)
The piece of information we were missing is that the trauma itself that's produced by long-term childhood trauma and you've also had several TBIsIs right doing concussions and strikes to the head- yeah, yeah, I've had a lot of it, you know, I've had a, you know, even like you were talking with the meds and stuff, like I've been through the ringer with the ups and downs and I guess when you're desperate to find solutions and you're done, you know, you're just fed up and live in a certain way Any gleam of hope, you know and that's what Dr Stevens was speaking of, gems, you know what I mean. Like him being able to tell me after everything that I'd been through all the head trauma from a little kid and saying that, hey, you're just injured, you can repair it. Like when he told me that I could rehabilitate and actually get back to normal. It was so unbelievable that I was crying. 

11:28 - Dwayne (Guest)
I know buddy, Me too. 

11:30 - Temple (Host)
To sit back and think that everyone's held you basically defective your whole life, and to be able to sit back and go oh, I can correct what's happening and then being able to do it with something as cheap as glucose, I mean, it's outstanding. 

11:44 - Dwayne (Guest)
Exactly yes. So I'm glad you brought that up because the pretty much anytime. You know the glucose isn't the first solution based suggestion that's come through. You know there's many other things Smoothies was the first one and you know nootropics or there's there's a lot of other. You know the keto diet there's. 

12:05
There's things that come through that say this is the one that can give bipolar the relief and we've tried all of them and it's just been an uphill battle trying to do a very controlled diet, extremely hard for my husband he's he doesn't have the executive function to be somebody that can be For my husband. He doesn't have the executive function to be somebody that can be food prepping and planning his day out and sticking to a certain diet plan. I know that's something that you did used to do, especially with bodybuilding and things like that. I thought this would be up your alley because you're used to focusing on your body, right, you liked bodybuilding and I know that you would tweak your diet and things like that to have the body that you wanted. So when I presented this to my husband, I presented it to you at the same time and you're like, yeah, I'm in, let's do it without hesitation. 

13:03
So we started with a couple of the other couples in my clubhouse group in January right, I believe it was January of 2023. 

13:15
We started on very small doses, which were three tablespoons of dextrose, powdered dextrose in water, in three to four ounces of water three times a day, and we started doing that and then each week we would increase our dosage and we would meet with Dr Stevens and start reporting symptoms. And you and my husband both have very similar beginnings severe trauma from childhood, a lot of traumatic brain injuries. My husband had a major car accident, he's had other things, he's been around a lot of chemicals. So the brain repair is obvious. And that's what I've been focusing on this whole time is helping people to redirect from the focus of a mood disorder and keep our eyes on the brain repair that, if we stay focused on the brain repair, the mood part is going to be corrected. When you realized, when Dr Stevens was saying that your brain was injured, did that help you connect the dots that the brain injury repair was going to also repair the mood disorder? 

14:29 - Temple (Host)
Yeah, well, when all that kind of came through, like when he was mentioning that stuff to me, it was almost surreal because I didn't know what was wrong. I didn't know if it was only a brain thing, I had no idea. But then after meeting and discussing and having all that stuff, like you know, those meetings, it was great because it was, like you know, the biggest thing out of it all Temple was. It's not my fault. Yeah, that was huge to sit back and go. The reason why you have the issues you are having is because of all that trauma. That was huge for me because I thought I was born this way. 

15:13 - Dwayne (Guest)
Well, whether you were or whether you weren't, you know, that's the question that we keep asking about. Bipolar is is this genetics, or is it genetics plus trauma? Is it genetics plus trauma plus brain injuries? I mean it's kind of all of it together and you have the whole gamut right. Your family line, I'm sure, has history, and then you, your trauma growing up, plus physical brain injuries all sign up for this bipolar diagnosis and it's all encompassing. Well, you can't control your moods, you can't control depression, you can't control anxiety, you're, you're manic, you're, you have psychosis, you have all these things. But you, living in Canada and in the small town that you're in, you're, you have psychosis, you have all these things. But you, living in canada and in the small town that you're in, you haven't had consistent treatment. You haven't even been able to have a consistent psychiatrist right, you've still been treated through your general practitioner yeah, that's, that's correct. 

16:17 - Temple (Host)
Yeah, it's been a struggle. Yeah, as you know, it's been a struggle but we're getting through it. And the one thing I can say you know the it's been a struggle but we're getting through it. And the one thing I can say you know the testimony is I've been up and down a lot in my doses, so I can tell you the difference of how I feel with taking it, while I take it regularly, and when you kind of slip off and I just yeah, I can tell you that it's 100%. You know, I wish I was still doing it. 

16:43 - Davina (Co-host)
Okay, let's talk about that. 

16:44 - Dwayne (Guest)
Okay, go ahead. Yeah, let's talk about that specifically, because I'm just doing a lot of prep ahead of time so that people understand that you're in Canada and you're in a small town. You can't just order, you know, 50 pounds of glucose on Amazon the way I can. You have to order in smaller doses. So it's been difficult for you to maintain the program at the level that Dr Stevens wants you to maintain it. But when you have it, you're taking it. When you don't have it, it's very significant. So I want to talk about when we got about six weeks in. That seemed to be a turning point for most of us. We were up to about 12 to 14 tablespoons. I think you jumped up higher than that. What did you see was a significant change for you when you saw that tipping point? 

17:36 - Temple (Host)
So for me, the tipping point, I'll just use guitar and music. It's the easiest way that I can kind of explain it. And so for me, I'd always played and I'd always played guitar to music, and it's fairly simple. But how I like to play is I like to make up my own rhythms, fills and leads in the songs. So my mind is always constantly going. 

18:00
Well before I was doing the dextrose, I didn't even want to play. I didn't even. And I've been playing since I was a little kid, since I was nine, and it was something I'd always wanted to do Just before starting the dextrose and that, like I said, I'd go a month without playing. That was never me. Then, when I started the dextrose, I almost wanted to play straight away, which is strange. But where I noticed the big difference is I started taking doses right before I went to play. And here's where it was important to me. 

18:29
I was struggling to keep up in the past, where it was like the timing was off. You know, I was fighting to kind of keep up, just to keep up. Then, when I started doing the dextrose, I was able to do it and actually be ahead of it. So I'm thinking of all these things I can tell you, like if you were to pause the song, I could tell you the drums, the bass, whatever notes are up next, on whatever instrument, on top of what's being played by me. And that was huge, huge in the sense of I didn't have to stop and think, I didn't get get confused, I didn't miss my spot in the music, like you know what I mean lose my place. So for something like that, that was huge for me because it seemed like all cylinders were firing. If that makes sense? 

19:13
yes, and you've been a musician since you're a little kid, right yeah, since I was nine years old I've been playing in front of people and you know that sort of stuff. So music for me was a way that I could be completely me without having to change or whatever you want to call it for other people or you know you want to go out in public. 

19:34 - Dwayne (Guest)
It's the only place I could feel like I was me, which is you know, and there was a point where you didn't feel the creativity or the motivation to play. 

19:42 - Temple (Host)
I had no motivation for anything, and I mean like I could be, as I could be starving and I didn't want to eat because it required too much effort. That's why I never played guitar. I didn't want to go out of the house, I didn't even want to use the washroom Washroom's 10 feet away from you and I would wait till the last possible second. 

20:08 - Dwayne (Guest)
Like it's crazy. You know what I mean. Well, we're using the word crazy, but what did we find out during the training? We learned the word glucose burners and that everything is a glucose burn. If your brain is under fueled then it will go into glucose preservation mode and it will tell you don't get off the couch, don't pick up the guitar. It will tell you that you don't get off the couch, don't pick up the guitar. It will tell you that you don't have enough fuel. And that's what happens to a bipolar brain that goes without enough glucose. Year after year after year after year, it becomes a compounded deficit. And the way that it stays a deficit is because the trauma response of your childhood trauma and the brain trauma won't allow the glucose that you're eating If you're gorging down on smoothies and potatoes and whatever to try to gluke up, the trauma actually prevents the glucose from getting to your brain significantly enough, because your body has been in a nervous system response because of the fear and the pain that you've been through for so long. 

21:15
I call it the trauma bridge kind of closes down so that your glucose will stay in your appendages and your arms and legs in case you need to run away from whatever the predator is, but with bipolar, the predator that's after you is in your head, so you can't run from it. It's keeping your nervous system lit up in the fight or flight at all times. So your trauma bridge stays closed, meaning it's suppressing the glucose into the body and keeping it from getting to the brain. What we've been doing is kind of like flooding that gate with dextrose, which absorbs very fast. It absorbs within 30 minutes, so you do have a spike of sugar, if that's what everybody's I'm sure that's what everybody's thinking. You know, won't this raise your blood sugar? It does for about 30 minutes, but it bypasses the pancreas so that it's not dumping out a bunch of insulin, so it doesn't create diabetes or anything like that. 

22:19
If you have diabetes, it's something that you definitely would want to work with Dr Stevens. And how to use it you know very cautiously. But, dwayne, with his level of trauma and my husband his level of trauma, they basically need to flood the brain with dextrose that converts to glucose in the body and then the glucose goes through the blood brain barrier and gets into the brain and starts providing fuel. And that's what started to happen for you, right, dwayne. And now let me segue to. We were at about the 12th week Mark when you had that family reunion that you had to get on a plane to go to Tell me what it was like previous years where you would have to get on a plane to go somewhere. 

23:08 - Temple (Host)
Yeah, sure it was prior to going. I had to hit the airport. So I have a few steps that were very tough for me to go. So the first one was actually leaving the house and then the second one was getting to the airport and then it's, of course, going through everything at the airport. So for me it was hell. It was basically I'd be smoking THC right up to the second to board the plane, and it was. 

23:35
It's a miserable experience for me because my heart rate's probably 120 the whole time just knowing, oh, I gotta leave for the airport. And then it starts, start getting into like panic attacks and then my wife holding my hand doing all these things to stop me not stop me, but to help me from spinning out. I would be heavily medicated to go there. So basically, you know, walk like a zombie. But now, prior, that's what it was prior. And then, when I was able to go, it was a little bit better. So I had a few doses of dextrose and I was able to get there. I was able to get to the airport, do all that stuff, you know, fly into Ontario, which was you know another province, and whatnot, but I was able to make it. You know it was still rough go, but it was much better than it was in the past. 

24:23 - Dwayne (Guest)
Yes, and you told me that the last time you were on the plane that you were almost going to fight somebody to get off the plane. So the fact that you made it onto a plane is a miracle that you got out of your house into the car. I've seen this in my husband to go to the dentist all right, trying to get him into the car a nightmare. It took three hours to prep him to get into the car to go to the day if he would even go at all. We've been through a million doc dentist appointments. Right that he would just cancel. But to try to get him there and get him into the car, drive there, get into the parking. He wouldn't make it out of the car, he wouldn't go in. 

25:03
Now last week we went to the dentist, picked him up, he got in the car. We drove there. He got right out of the car. He went into the dentist. He let the girl put all the things on him, shoved all the things in his mouth, took the x-rays and we walked out. It was flawless. 

25:22
Okay, this is eight months of glucose treatment. It is day and night. He would never let anybody put their fingers in his mouth, much less all around his head or his face. It was almost like you know, he was going to jump up like a ninja and kick everybody in the room if they put their hands near his face. So I can definitely relate to your experience of getting into the plane and flying there and you made it there and then when we had our next check in, you were actually there at the family reunion and you and your wife were both on the video call and she was just smiling so big and I said what's going on? And she said I just can't believe that he's here and he hasn't locked himself in the room. Because that's what happened last year. We got here and you wouldn't leave the bedroom, right? Am I remembering that right? 

26:18 - Temple (Host)
Yeah, that's correct. I didn't want to leave the room, I didn't even want to go downstairs in the house I grew up in and go and have like a family meal, like a get together, like I wanted no part of anything or anybody, and kind of going and adding to what you were saying. With Chris and the dentist, when we were getting ready to go, I never had to do one thing. Arlie had done all the packing, got everything ready to go to. All I had to do was get in the car, get out of the car, get on the plane. That's how simple, you know. That's how easy she made it for me, because everything else would have put me into a spiral, you know. And then it's like you know you start packing well, well, I need this Well what? 

27:06 - Dwayne (Guest)
And then it's an ongoing thing and and then, before you know it, I've turned an anthill into a mountain. Basically right, but you did make it there, you did leave the room, you had dinner with family and you made it back safely, and I saw the two of you with with a light in your face that I had not seen before. So would you say that that was a place where you felt fully fueled or close to fully? 

27:26 - Temple (Host)
fueled yeah. I felt pretty close, to be in like fuel, because what it was is I didn't have to focus all of my energy in survival mode. I was able to actually have a bit of a break or a bit of, you know, a bit of peace I guess is probably the best word I could use. Right, and that's a big deal, that's a big deal. 

27:47 - Dwayne (Guest)
Oh, it's a huge deal. It's a huge deal. I was crying when I saw you too. I couldn't believe it, because I know what an accomplishment it was. So now, today, where we are is that you've had difficulty getting product. You've had to lower your dosage. Since you have had to lower your dosage, you've had some symptoms coming back right. You've had more anxiety, some of your self-harming thoughts, things like that, creeping back in. 

28:15
Correct, yes, yeah, I wouldn't say they're creeping back in, they're stomping back in, kind of thing okay so from your perspective, I mean, it seems clear that there's a significant difference in your brain function when you have proper glucose fuel and when you don't yeah, a thousand percent, thousand percent. 

28:39 - Temple (Host)
I'm excited to get back to the amount that I was doing before, the amount that I was taking before. 

28:45 - Dwayne (Guest)
Okay. 

28:46 - Temple (Host)
So yeah, like I'd be curious to see, because, for those that don't know, I was at 84 tablespoons a day I noticed a huge difference. It was almost endless energy and I could think and I wouldn't be like I've been run over by a car or a truck. You know, when you think, when your body is going through that much. That was the one thing. It gave me relief that's what I should have said not only peace, but relief from all the static and all the chaos that's in my head. So it was able to slow me down a little bit and and I forgot to tell you this Temple but my weed intake was cut down probably by 20% when I was taking the like you know, the 80 plus tablespoons. 

29:34
So it's another huge benefit for me as well. 

29:38 - Dwayne (Guest)
No, that is huge because, again, that's a major hurdle for the bipolar community. It's very controversial. There are many people that are pro-marijuana, pro-bipolar. From what I know from my education and talking with Dr Stevens and, of course, julie Fass' platform, is that psychotic episodes are stimulated and and fueled by THC. So and paranoia and anger and main and all of those things are fueled. 

30:12
Bipolar brain and THC are not a good mix and it's been a huge point of contention in my relationship, right. But what I know now in working with Dr Stevens is that the need for the THC is self-preservation because of the glucose deprivation. How do you like that? Did that sound really smart to me? It helped me to understand that my husband was smoking his brain down because it was burning all his glucose resource and the thc would slow him down enough to where he wasn't feeling like he was literally going to burn up and blow up. You know and that's what, that's what a manic episode looks like. It's a blow up, right. So he would smoke himself down. And the same thing is happening with my husband that the more his brain gets fueled, the more consistent days that he has of being fully fueled, the lower his I don't want to say need, but desire for THC, and it's a slow progression. 

31:20
I want to clarify that for everybody. This is not a one and done and it's not an overnight miracle. This is a day to day you have to commit, and it could be six months, it could be a year, it could be a year and a half, it could be two years before you see a remission in symptoms, depending on the severity. Depending on the severity. But Dwayne and my husband are two of the most extreme cases of bipolar that I've been around and I've been talking to people for 10 years that are married to somebody with bipolar. And to see Dwayne have this type of relief and my husband visually showing me that his moods are regulated, he can pay attention to a conversation with me, he's making eye contact that he never did before, which I know now is about your visual processing. Visual processing is a glucose burner. Right Auditory is less of a glucose burner, so he tries to just listen when I talk to him instead of look at me. Now he looks and he listens and he responds in topic. So that wasn't happening before either, because of the cognitive impairment that has happened. So to me I feel like we've secretly stumbled upon a miracle, but it's a miracle of science and it's so simple that it's going to be hard for people to digest this. 

32:39
No pun intended, you might get a stomach ache from all the glucose you're drinking, but I wouldn't be having this meeting right now if I didn't have the anecdotal evidence, if I hadn't seen it firsthand, that it not only is working on my loved ones with bipolar, but it's working on me. I've had severe, acute anxiety, you know, facing off with bipolar, for year after year after year, like your wife needs to be on glucose, but I'm drinking my glucose. The anxiety stopped. Let me say that, like the tipping point came about three months in and the adrenaline buzz that I've been living on to be able to fight against my husband's symptoms and not let the symptoms get inside, take personally to be able to stop, drop and roll, be able to deflect false statements about me, knowing my own truth. That's a lot of energy for me to sustain, right? Those are all glucose burners. 

33:40
So when I realized that I was so under fueled as well, that's what Dr Stevens told me. You're under fueled, temple. You need your brain to get back up to speed. Just because you can talk a lot Doesn't mean that your brain is fueled. It just means that your mouth and your brain is taking up all the glucose. So I felt the tipping point come where I went from running on adrenaline, working 16, 18 hours a day, to, I don't know, some weird feeling of being able to chill out and not feel bad about it. So I'm going to wrap this up here. Dwayne, do you have any final comments about your experience and what you're looking forward to? 

34:23 - Temple (Host)
Yes, I'm looking forward actually to the day when I can take the doses that I need, because I'm excited for what it will do. You know what I mean? Like, I'm just happy to give it a go and I would recommend it for anybody to give it a shot, because I noticed a difference. After one drink, one dose, you could feel a difference, and so I'm very excited, right, because I am getting relief for something that I've been struggling with for the 40 years and the fact that there is a light at the end of the tunnel. 

34:54 - Dwayne (Guest)
It's beautiful so there's a freaking light at the end of this tunnel that you couldn't have said it better, benny. That's exactly the way I feel that there is hope. And I've known there was hope, but I couldn't see it. I just kept saying it. There has to be a better way to support our loved ones. There has to be a way. Don't give up. Hope and that's what I'm constantly preaching in our clubhouse is, you know, lean into your source, lean into your prayer, work that something will come. But we don't know what it is. And now something is here and it's working. So not only do I have hope, I can see the hope, and that's the difference. 

35:32
Now, davina, I just wanted to give you a moment if there was anything you thought I didn't cover or wanted to ask, and I did see you mention that Chris follows our safety plan Absolutely. That is a miracle upon miracles. He didn't want nothing to do with Julie Fast books. He won't pick up a book, he won't watch a video, he won't do anything that has to do with bipolar, because it's a glucose burner. It makes him feel bad about himself. But we created our safety plan together my needs, your needs, his needs, my triggers, his triggers and he has grabbed onto that like it was a new baby blanket and it's absolutely working, and I know it's because his brain is fully fueled and he has a simple tool to keep us connected and safe, and that's all either of us wants. All right over to you, davina. 

36:23 - Davina (Co-host)
It's been just beautiful to hear Duane's experience, because I haven't actually heard it, and also to see Chris almost come out of a turtle shell. If you tried to get him to talk to any of us before, he was very nervous and anxious about it and we're all rooting for him. But he still feels some kind of way and just didn't have that energy to do it. And now you can hold up a Marco Polo to him and he'll tell me hi and wave at me, and he's such a kind and loving person that it's so hard to imagine him not having something just so easy. It's so easy and it works. 

37:04
I don't have bipolar disorder, but I tried it because I have really bad anxiety and severe PTSD. So I was like, hey, if I can do something to get my brain to be just a smidge more cooperative, it's worth it. And I was afraid of like gaining weight or breaking out, because you know, we all hear that sugar is inflammatory and you're going to get fat and I'm already chubby. So I was like, all right, if I get a little fat, no big deal. But I haven't. I haven't gained weight. My skin actually has improved. I think that's because I'm not in a constant state of anxiety to where my excorication disorder is being triggered all the time, like I have the the energy to do all the things Duane was talking about, where it's like okay, you find a center to where you can figure out where to start to do the thing without feeling like you're just stuck in fog. 

37:56 - Dwayne (Guest)
Absolutely. Thank you, davina. Yeah, it is incredible to watch. When we first started doing our zoom calls in the in the brain gang, um, chris couldn't look onto the screen, he would. You'd just see, like the corner of his head and you know, and he would stay on the group for maybe 15 minutes and then he would just fade out and, uh, by the time we finished it, 12 weeks in, he was full faced in the camera listening to other people's stories, giving feedback, giving his own testimony. And yeah, you're exactly right. Now I hold up the camera. He waves, he's not shying away from life. It's really a miracle transition that's happening. 

38:43
It's hard to think that beast of bipolar came out of that person, you see, when you see him sitting on the beach just waving and relaxing. But no, bipolar has been a beast in our lives and it's torn many things down, burned a lot of things to pieces. Now I'm seeing somebody whose brain is repairing and his true self is emerging again. It's just really miraculous to see it. I feel that in Dwayne as well. Dwayne has never personally bipolar doubt on me in an aggressive way. 

39:22
I feel like this is the best way for your brain to not only get recovery from the symptoms of the self harm and self deprecation and all that pain stuff. But you already have such a sweet soul, duane, that the relief is turning you into well. You've already been an advocate for quite a while. You've been supporting other people with your music and Discord and crisis support and things like that. When your brain is fully fueled, you're going to help so many people. I just can't wait to see that and we're going to do this together. I'll give it to you, duane, to close this out. 

40:01 - Temple (Host)
Amazing. Well, thank you, temple, actually for accepting me in your rooms in the beginning and to actually set me up with Dr Stevens, and you know, help me, and Arlie, and you know everyone else, help us get ahead of. You know what's happening here, and one thing I'll add about the dextrose is that I also slept better, and that's a key thing for me as well is I need the structure and the sleep, but I would certainly recommend it for the things that I suffer from or I've lived through. Whatever the case may be. This can give anyone relief of their symptoms, just plain and simple. So thank you again, temple, love everybody and I hope you all have a great day. 

40:43 - Dwayne (Guest)
I love you too, buddy. Thanks for reminding us, because sleep is a major part of bipolar struggle. So, all right, goodbye everybody. Thanks for coming you.