Shadowed

Season 3 Premiere (Halloween Special). 

Alex welcomes Carli Collins—wife of Kam from last season’s possession episode—for a candid, grounded dive into the hauntings that followed her for years. From a childhood home with doors and drawers moving on their own, to footsteps in empty halls, a 3:00 a.m. gasp right beside her ear, and a Beatles poster that launched off the wall, Carli tracks the shadow figure that kept reappearing in her doorway—even after she moved. We also talk about the Reiki/energy session that finally released the attachment and why she’s been spirit-free for two years. A conversation right on the edge of the paranormal and the psychological—perfect for Halloween night listening. 

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Transcript

[00:00:00] Welcome, welcome, welcome [00:00:10] to.

Alex: Welcome to. The season three [00:00:20] premiere of unholy Vibes. Today we have a very special guest joining us just as if not more special than all the guests before. 

Carli: Wow. [00:00:30] Okay. 

Alex: Today I have with me my dear friend Carly Collins, who is the wonderful wife of my buddy Kam, who [00:00:40] was one of the last episodes of season two.

The possession story. So for those of you who have been keeping up, you know that Kam had a great story [00:00:50] and today Carly's ready to share a story or two with us and I'm very excited. So, Carly, tell us who you are what you do, what your deal is, [00:01:00] you know, just introduce yourself. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then we will dive in and I'll do my best to.

Save my questions for last. Okay. But no dice. This is just, we're [00:01:10] just chit chatting. Yeah, we're chatting and we're chatting. 

Carli: Okay. Interesting. 

Alex: Yeah, so go ahead. Go ahead. 

Carli: Thank you for having me. I'm such a fan. I listened to all your episodes except the most recent [00:01:20] one. I haven't listened to that yet, so don't clock me on that.

Alex: At the time of this recording, I just published the last episode just a couple weeks ago. No, I'm just so you know. Fake fan, fake [00:01:30] friend. But it's okay. You have time. 

Carli: Yeah, and I'm just. Hanging out, telling ghost stories, having a good time. 

Alex: Yep. Yep. you and Kam have been together [00:01:40] for many moons. 

Carli: Yeah, we've been together for six years and I think we've known each other for nine, almost 10.

So 

Alex: only that because we dated 

Carli: for three [00:01:50] years. 

Alex: That's right. Yeah. Because I knew you before I was even in. 

Carli: Yeah. 

Alex: Yeah. I knew you before 

Carli: the incident. Before 

Alex: the, 

Carli: I'm sorry. I'm so sorry. 

Alex: Before the [00:02:00] seven year long incident. 

Carli: good, good. Because I feel like I'm being awkward. 

Alex: No, no, it's fine. Lemme go 

Carli: run a lap. 

Alex: Guys, bear with us. I'm, I'm not gonna edit [00:02:10] out the silence while she goes to run a lap. 

Let's lock in. 

Carli: Lock in. 

Alex: Okay. So Carly, you and Kam have been married for many moons.

I've known you since you guys were [00:02:20] dating, and I feel like we became friends pretty quickly.

Carli: We did. Yeah.

Alex: we've been buddies the whole time, I feel like, and.

Yeah. 

Nowadays, 

I probably talk to you more than I talk to him. 

Carli: I know. 'cause [00:02:30] he never picks up his phone. He never picks up his 

Alex: phone or he's at work. Yeah. Or asleep. So it's like, well, guess I'm calling Carly. Yep. And you're like my sister now. Yeah. There's a lot of, exactly. Uh, we have a great [00:02:40] friendship.

Lots of love. Everything is lots 

Carli: in common. Yeah. 

Alex: Yes. Both. A couple of silly geese. 

Carli: Yes, I would say so. So silly geese. 

Alex: Okay. 

Carli: Anyway, for real. Lock in. So [00:02:50] 

Alex: guys, I promise we're locked in. Okay, so do you wanna share anything else about yourself or you wanna just like dive right into it? 

Carli: I mean, we can just dive right into it.

I don't know what [00:03:00] else to share about myself. No, you're fine. 

Alex: so in all of our years of being friends mm-hmm. It wasn't until probably a year ago that I was able to [00:03:10] hear your stories. 

Carli: Yeah. 

Alex: Which is fine, but I was shocked at how many great stories you had. Not, when I say great, I mean absolutely. [00:03:20] Wild stories that made me think, oh no, for Carly. But, uh, we trauma 

Carli: bonded is what you're saying? Yes, [00:03:30] yes. 

Alex: A little bit. A little bit. It was literally we were eating ice cream.You, me and Kam and my son had met up for ice cream.

We were just chatting and chatting and [00:03:40] we were talking about unholy vibes 'cause it was still relatively new at the time. Mm-hmm. And you're like, oh, let me tell you about this. And I was just like shocked that we'd known each other for so [00:03:50] long and had never heard this. But you know, that's on me for not asking.

Anyway. Carly has told me these stories and I knew that the people had to hear these stories. [00:04:00] They're fun. They're a little spooky. We're only sharing, I say we, Carly, you're only gonna share one or two today. Yeah. Out of the plethora because reasons. Yeah. And [00:04:10] that's okay. And later down the line if, Carly's open to it and things are chill and she may or may not come back to, give us some more crazy [00:04:20] tales.

Carli: Yeah. I guess it's up to your audience if they wanna hear. If they're down for the spooky stuff, I have that. But if they want to hear like the more intense, 

Alex: very [00:04:30] real creepy stuff, 

Carli: very real life stuff, then I'd be happy to come back. But yeah, 

Alex: And let me clarify. Can't mess 

Carli: the vibe of the podcast. 

Alex: No.

And let me clarify guys, when we say very real, very real life me, [00:04:40] we are meaning not supernatural because, we're here for all the, the spooky scaries, the supernatural and the not. 

So yeah. potentially more stories to come, So anyway, [00:04:50] Carly, you told me these stories a little while back and I've been waiting to get you on the show.

Mm-hmm.so here we are recording. Go ahead and dive right in and we'll hear your stories and we'll have a little chit [00:05:00] chat. 

Carli: Okay. We'll 

Alex: discuss around it. 

Carli: Okay. So, I guess to start, the house that I grew up in was. Just insane on its own, [00:05:10] besides the ghost stuff.

But growing up there, I felt like, I don't know, we always had something going on even if we weren't home. I would just say the house I grew up in [00:05:20] was haunted. we moved into the house. I had just moved here from Colorado and the house was old, so it was built like probably in the seven sixties or seventies.

you [00:05:30] know, it like has all the like, normal things of a house, like it creeks and it's mm-hmm. You know, it just sounds like an old house. But on top of that, there was always like things that we [00:05:40] couldn't really explain. my brother and I. if we were ever home alone, we would always hear doors opening and closing.

We'd hear drawers moving, [00:05:50] hear footsteps down the hall, and I never really thought it was like anything super intense 'cause it never felt malicious. and I came to find out, like after moving in there, I think I'd lived [00:06:00] there a year, but the family before us, the wife had died. Yeah. And it was like a really like sudden death, like they didn't know.

And then the husband got [00:06:10] married like three weeks after. 

Alex: Whoa. 

Carli: Yeah. So he moved on really quick and it was really like everyone in the neighborhood kind of had a feeling about it. You know, like they didn't [00:06:20] wanna say anything, but they also didn't wanna not acknowledge that she had passed so quickly to him getting married.

Alex: Right. 

It's, it's sussy. It's sussy, it's suspicious. 

Carli: Yeah. [00:06:30] So, but yeah, I, again, it was like a woman who had died there, so I felt like it was always a very, like, calm spirit, you know? I wasn't ever trying to like, wreak havoc. [00:06:40] Doors would open, things would shut and close and it was just like normal, I guess.

Mm-hmm. Growing up. But yeah I will say I did have some creepy experiences, There was one time [00:06:50] when my brother and I were home alone, 'cause my dad had just left to go grab something and I, I couldn't remember what it was. And we felt like this feeling like really heavy that we had were being [00:07:00] watched and we weren't really sure like what the feeling was.

And so we started to kind of panic about it and we're like, oh, maybe it's just 'cause my dad left and we're home alone and we're [00:07:10] kids. We're being dumb. Everything's scary when you're alone. we just started talking and my brother jokingly, at the time, I had a really bad fear of aliens.

I don't now, but at the time I [00:07:20] did. And so my brother started joking about aliens and the lights started flickering. 

Alex: Oh, 

Carli: and I, I about lost my mind, and my brother [00:07:30] thought it was so funny. And I'm calling my dad immediately. I'm like, you need to get back to the house. There's aliens here and. And just like weird things like that that aren't really [00:07:40] explainable.

The lights would never flicker even though it was an old house, but it was my bedroom. So like I knew like what the lighting situation was. So it was never like flickering or having like any [00:07:50] issues. But yeah, it was kind of bizarre. But I think the real story that is like the biggest one is seeing, well, hearing that spirit.

there was one night when my brother and I, [00:08:00] he's in the room right next to me.

So he's in there playing video games and it's late at night. We'd probably stayed up till like two or three in the morning. I think my dad had gone to visit some [00:08:10] family. We were just there by ourselves. so I, was redecorating my room. I had music up. I was just up late like. Taking advantage of the fact that the parents aren't home.[00:08:20] 

Alex: Right. 

Carli: so as I'm redecorating like a mirror I have in my room, I kept get getting this like feeling that I'm being watched again and I'm like turning around, checking to see, you know, [00:08:30] is my brother there going into the other room seeing like what he's doing. He's still playing video games. So it was kind of bizarre.

And as I got closer to like three o'clock, I remember, [00:08:40] 'cause it was three in the morning and I was like. You know, it's always like referred to as like the witching hour or whatever. 

Alex: Mm-hmm. But 

Carli: I, I started to feel like more panicked and more like intense about [00:08:50] like someone watching me. So I started like cleaning up what I was doing, putting everything away.

And I go to get into bed, I turn off the light and I lay down in bed [00:09:00] and I just hear this breathing like heavy breathing. Like,

like someone is gasping. And it happened like two or three times. And immediately while [00:09:10] I'm laying in bed, I'm like, oh my gosh, is someone in my room or is this a ghost? I'm panicking and I'm not gonna get outta my bed because I'm worried like if I get outta my [00:09:20] bed, there's gonna be something there.

Alex: Right? 

Carli: So I, luckily we had cell phones, so I call my brother and I'm like, you need to come into my room right now. So he runs into my room and [00:09:30] he is like, what's wrong? And I was like, shut the door and turn off the light. And he does it. And he hears the same like breathing

and he looks like he turns the light on immediately and he's [00:09:40] like, we need to get upstairs now.

And so he grabbed a bat and we sprinted upstairs into my dad's room and we locked the door 'cause I had a lock on it. And we just [00:09:50] slept in my dad's bed that night. Again, probably shouldn't have been left home alone, but I think we were old enough to like, you know, know we're like 16. I was 16 at the time.

I think my brother was [00:10:00] 14. Yeah, but it was just like a really terrifying moment and we didn't see anything in our room. We didn't see like any like apparitions or anything like that. It was [00:10:10] just like so loud and so intense. And when we told my dad about it later, he was like, it's probably the neighbors pranking.

You and our neighbors [00:10:20] are our best friends, but like, they wouldn't do something like that. Also, why would they be in like our backyard at three in the morning? Do you know what I mean? Yeah. Because like that's how you have to get to my [00:10:30] room, so bizarre. And he was just like chalking it up to nothing.

and it's weird because he would see like doors opening, closing, like just weird stuff happening and he'd be like, oh, it's just the [00:10:40] house. It's just old. So I don't know if he just like denied it or trying to make himself feel better about it. But yeah, definitely really intense. 

Alex: So. maybe I'm misremembering, but [00:10:50] when you were either both in your room or both, once you were upstairs in your dad's room, did you not hear more, noises of like stuff moving [00:11:00] around?

Carli: Yeah. That's a good reminder. We did hear like. Doors opening 

Alex: once you were in your dad's room? 

Carli: Yeah, we heard like one my bedroom door open, but my bedroom door also like, had this [00:11:10] problem where it was really old, so it would creak a lot. so every now and then it would make like weird noises with the woods.

So I don't know if it was like I door creaking and opening or if it was like someone opening it [00:11:20] or if it was like a spirit, like, I don't know, pushing open the door. It sounds crazy, but like I feel like yeah. 

Alex: Okay. Because for some reason I, I guess I just had overdramatized it in my [00:11:30] mind of like, yeah, you guys were hiding in his room and like you heard someone moving around.

Carli: Well, yeah, we did hear like footsteps, but it wasn't like, [00:11:40] 

Alex: well, that's a big deal. 

Carli: Okay. Sorry. Let me, let me rewind. I guess it's not, not as a big deal to me, because we would just always hear footsteps, but it was never like, these [00:11:50] footsteps didn't sound like a person. It sounded like the same ghost or whatever was in our house walking around when like no one was home.

Like those kind of footsteps. But it didn't sound [00:12:00] loud like a real person's footsteps. So I'm not really sure. 

Alex: But it had, did it have like the pattern and cadence of regular footsteps? So it's like, those are footsteps, but [00:12:10] quiet. 

Carli: Yeah. Yeah. And our house was, because it was so old, it was easy to break into.

and there were lots of ways in to get to the house, and I [00:12:20] considered it being a person for a little while because I was like, but why would they just like, stop? You know what I mean? Like, why would they just like leave? I, I dunno. It was honestly really scary, 

Alex: [00:12:30] Yeah. Well, and why would a person see a house with some lights on and be like, that's the one I'm gonna break into.

Carli: Yeah, and it, it's interesting because. We had like a really bad sliding glass [00:12:40] door that would just like open, like you had to have like a pole in like the, you know what I'm talking about, like a pole to block the door from opening. 

Alex: Yeah. 

Carli: So we had one of those, we had like two [00:12:50] windows that didn't have screens and were just easy to open from the outside.

So like someone could have gotten in, but like who would've gotten into my room when I was like in there like [00:13:00] that whole time? 

Alex: Yeah. 

Carli: And I'm like, well, maybe they were in like if it was a real person, maybe they were in a different part of the house and they were just like waiting and watching. But where my room was, [00:13:10] it's angled.

So like you basically can only see the stairs and they're not tall stairs. So I could see the door, right, like the front door from there. It was just a really bizarre [00:13:20] experience and my brother and I, we still talk about it to this day and I think it freaks him out a lot to talk about, but. Yeah, we just like couldn't explain like why there was like this sudden gasping [00:13:30] noise and it, yeah.

it was intense. 

Alex: So did you ever hear that noise again? I mean, you kept sleeping in your room after that? 

Carli: I did, but [00:13:40] I never heard that voice again. I never heard the noise. I never felt like I was being watched. So it was really like eerie to me that it was just randomly [00:13:50] happened. I hadn't like. I've been playing with ghosts or like a Ouija board, anything like that.

It was just completely random. And that's why like, it's almost a little bit scarier because [00:14:00] if it had happened more, you would think it's a ghost. 

Alex: Yeah. 

Carli: But it didn't, so it could have been a person in my house while we're not home. 

Alex: I don't like [00:14:10] that. I don't want You don't like that. Well, listen. Yeah, I, at this point, if it were me, I would've been like, I hope it's a ghost.

Carli: Yeah. 

Alex: Because if it is a person, you got two teenagers. 

Carli: Oh [00:14:20] yeah. 

Alex: Left to home alone, like figure it out, you know? No, I mean, you had a phone, you could have called the cops or whatever. Well, 

Carli: yeah, and like, 

Alex: but still, 

Carli: yeah. I think we called my dad and just like checked in, [00:14:30] but. Yeah. we, like when we were running upstairs, my brother had grabbed a bat and I had gone to the kitchen and grabbed a knife.

So we were prepared. 

Alex: Well, and at that point, yeah. 

Carli: Oh, there's a thunder. 

Alex: [00:14:40] Oh, is that what this, I thought the 

Carli: spooky vibes are actually coming. We're summoning them. 

Alex: Yeah. The vibes are immaculate. 

Carli: Yeah. 

Alex: The vibes are in holy. So you ran to the kitchen to grab a knife. Your brother's got a bat.

Carli: [00:14:50] Yeah. 

Alex: You would've seen someone. 

Carli: I feel like we would've, like wouldn't they have followed us up the stairs? I've listened to so many true crime things, so like maybe this is my [00:15:00] paranoia, but like, wouldn't they have followed us up to upstairs? I don't think they would've given up if the door was locked.

'cause it would've been easily opened. Yeah. So that's why I think it's a ghost because [00:15:10] I'm like, I don't know. I don't think someone would have that intentions. But also we had like prepared and we were awake and we stayed up I think the rest of the night. Yeah. Until like we, and it was [00:15:20] daytime and we went around and like checked the house.

Alex: It's not easy to go to sleep after something so intense, I would imagine. Yeah. Well, I know for a fact I've had a few things happen to [00:15:30] me. Yeah, so 

It's the witching hour. You hear these noises and. And I don't know if those, those like wheezing noises you made will come through, but if they don't, I'll make them myself and [00:15:40] relay them on top.

Yeah. Anyway, 

Carli: It, it sounded like someone gasping for air intensely. Yeah. Like, like they, you had just got the wi wind knocked out of you, like your [00:15:50] gasping. Yeah. 

Alex: Yeah. And Was the sound coming from, and I may have just missed this detail, but was it coming from inside your room or outside your window?

Outside [00:16:00] your door, under your bed? I mean, where do you think the sound was? Was it 

Carli: honestly sounded like, I think this was the most terrifying part, and I, I kind of forgot about this until you asked me this question, but [00:16:10] when I was laying down, it sounded like it was right next to me. Oh, like right next to my ear.

So that's why like I immediately panicked to call my brother, but when he came in he [00:16:20] heard it too, like really loud. So I don't know if it was under my bed, but it sounded so close to me. And we even checked, like when we had gone upstairs into my dad's room, 'cause my dad's [00:16:30] room's right above mine. So we were even checking out into the backyard window with like a flashlight to see if there were any people around or if like.

I don't think my neighbors would pull that kind of prank on me, [00:16:40] but we were just like checking, everywhere. Mm-hmm. 

Alex: Well, how for them to be up at that same time too? 

Carli: Yeah. 

Alex: I mean, that's, that's a 10:00 PM prank. That's a, maybe a midnight prank. 

Carli: No. Yeah. 

Alex: But 3:00 AM [00:16:50] that takes a little bit of dedication.

Carli: Yeah. 

Alex: Not that it wouldn't have been done and couldn't be done, but. That just seems less likely. No, 

Carli: I think my dad just told [00:17:00] us that 'cause he was trying to like be like, it's not that big of a deal. Yeah. Like trying to console us, but I'm like, my neighbors would never do that. Mm-hmm. So, yeah. 

Alex: So how much longer did you live in [00:17:10] that house?

You were 16 at the time? 

Carli: Yeah, probably till I was like 20. so four more years after that 

Alex: and nothing. Uh, besides the standard [00:17:20] opening and closing some rustling of drawers and cupboards. 

Carli: Yeah, every now and then, I think there were two more experiences that were not as intense, but [00:17:30] like still happened, which was really bizarre.

I used to have this Beatles poster pinned up into the wall in my room

that was like a cardboard poster. Okay. [00:17:40] So it's like a big piece of like, basically advertising that they had up in the mall. But I had bought that and pinned it into my wall. So it, it was like hanging [00:17:50] above my bed. And I had pinned it in like pretty good.

And for a few days, I had just been having this weird feeling again that I was being watched and it flew off my [00:18:00] wall, like it flew off my wall onto the ground. And I, I, I'm not explaining it very well, but it was like so intense because it was in the middle of the night again, [00:18:10] around three, and it had just flown off my wall.

Alex: Yeah. 

Carli: And it didn't look like, 'cause if it had just fallen, it would've fallen right by my bed. 

Alex: Yeah. 

Carli: The way my bed was set up. But it had, it [00:18:20] had flown off into the middle of the room. Of the room. 

Alex: Okay. 

Carli: And at that point I was terrified, but I was also like, I. Pissed off. 'cause I'm like, if you're trying to like bother me, [00:18:30] like I need to go to sleep.

So I think I remember being like really freaked out and then turning over in my bed and being like, I'm going to bed. I'm not dealing with this right now. Like, I put the blankets over me. [00:18:40] I was just like, tonight's not the night. but yeah, like stuff like that would happen all the time. Like things would be rearranged or moved or just weird.

It makes me sound crazy [00:18:50] and maybe it was me moving them, who knows? But. I didn't 

Alex: know that was a possibility. Okay. Why do you think that it would've been you? 

Carli: I mean like, not like that [00:19:00] I'm moving them at night, like in my sleep, but like. Maybe I'm forgetting that I'm moving something, you know?

Oh. Like I set something down, like I have a short attention span. I don't know that I, you know what I mean? Right. [00:19:10] Okay. So 

Alex: like, oh, I set this down here and I forgot I left it there, kind of thing. Yeah. Or I moved it with without, but it still 

Carli: doesn't explain the doors opening. No drawer in the kitchen cabinets [00:19:20] opening, stuff like that.

So, or the 

Alex: poster flying off your wall because the way you're making it sound, it had some weight to it. If it was just a thin paper, it would've like, you know, whoosh, whoosh, whoosh. [00:19:30] And kind of like. No. Even then it, with nothing blowing on it, it would've probably just fallen straight down. 

Carli: Yeah. And 

Alex: regardless of the thickness and weight thereof.

Yeah. But to [00:19:40] fly into the middle of your room. Yeah. So it was definitely haunted for sure. Yeah. 

Carli: And I, I don't know exactly what it was, 'cause I felt like whatever [00:19:50] spirit, like the lady who had passed away there, it felt peaceful. But every now and then, I would just get this, Horrible feeling like, and it was always at night, and I'm like, maybe I was just overwhelmed.

[00:20:00] Maybe it was anxiety, but it was pretty intense. 

Alex: Did you ever, I'm trying to 

Carli: jog my memory, jog your 

Alex: memory a little bit. I more down. No, no, no, you're fine. [00:20:10] Because you may not think of something that I'm like, like the footsteps thing. You're like, oh yeah, that, yeah. It's like, yeah, that, you know.

Did you [00:20:20] ever, in your entire time living in that home, see anything any sort of figure apparition or maybe just a little shadow that wasn't right or something like [00:20:30] that? 

Carli: Yeah, I would see not a very, like detailed apparition, more like a shadow. every now and then I would wake up in the middle of the night and it would just be like standing in my doorway.

[00:20:40] And it got to the point where like, I started shutting my door because I would see the shadow in the middle of the night just standing in my doorway. And like, I knew it wasn't a person, [00:20:50] like I knew it wasn't anyone in my family. Like, I would get up and like, you know, walk just to like, check to see if anyone had gotten up to like, you know, scare me.

Alex: Mm-hmm. 

Carli: But no, it was [00:21:00] always just like this weird, very, very tall apparition. It was just in my room, and I feel like maybe that's sleep paralysis. Who knows? But, well, the fact, 

Alex: hold [00:21:10] on real quick, sorry. Yeah. The fact that you could get up and go check makes me think it wasn't sleep paralysis. Yeah. If you can get up and move around, I 

Carli: did check one time.

Most of the time I was too [00:21:20] scared, but I think I had to like do it for myself just to be like, is this actually happening or am I just like losing my mind? 

Alex: Right. 

Carli: And that same like, I [00:21:30] guess I should tell you this story too, because this is about your mom's reiki. So this is the story I guess I haven't told you, but that same apparition or [00:21:40] whatever would follow me from place to place living in different apartments.

And again, it would always be in my doorway. [00:21:50] So when I had moved to Vineyard with some friends they wanted to leave the door open at night 'cause it was really hot and we were on the third floor. And again, I would see it [00:22:00] in the doorway. So I'd always get up and shut the door. And then of course that's causing problems with my roommates, but I'm like, it would just always stand and stare.

When I moved into our first [00:22:10] apartment, like after Kameron and I had got married. It would stand in the doorway again. And I started to think for a minute, I'm like, I must have sleep paralysis. But I never felt like [00:22:20] I couldn't move. I mean, like, I would feel very fearful, but I wouldn't feel like I couldn't move or and sometimes I would just have to ignore it and like literally turn around and be like, I'm [00:22:30] going to sleep.

Like, I don't know what that is. I don't wanna deal with it right now. Say a little prayer if I'm feeling really scared, which you know, is big for [00:22:40] me. Just stop laughing. 

Alex: Continue. 

Carli: But yeah, so when we moved in here to this complex again, I was seeing it still and [00:22:50] I didn't wanna go into too much detail like of what was going on because I didn't want to sound crazy or like schizophrenic, but I'm like.

At this point, it's, it stopped [00:23:00] being as scary to me. And it just started being like, oh, it's, it's here today. Mm-hmm. I don't know, I think it's a man, I don't know, but it would just be there, [00:23:10] typically it wasn't waking me up every night like the spirit wasn't, but it was always like random and it would just show up and then it would be there, and so it kind [00:23:20] of stopped scaring me after a while to the point where I'd be like, okay, it's here, but like I want to go back to sleep. So I would like do the same thing that I did when I had like the Beatles poster fly off.

[00:23:30] Into the middle of my room, I would just be like, okay, not right now. Like I, I don't know what this is. 

Alex: Um, more of a nuisance than a fear now. 

Carli: Yeah. And like it always made me feel [00:23:40] fearful, but like, I'd almost gotten used to it. 

Alex: Yeah. 

Carli: And I really thought, like, I'm like, I'm crazy. Like I sound crazy.

Maybe I do have sleep paralysis. Who knows? [00:23:50] But, I went to see your mom because your mom talked about like. Kind of what a reiki session was and how it like cleanses bad spirits and

Alex: [00:24:00] she does, 

Carli: yeah. How would you explain that? Yeah. So, 

Alex: so we've discussed it a little bit. I mean, I have, my mom does energy work.

Yes. Yeah, she [00:24:10] does, aroma touch therapy. She does reiki light work.

she does all sorts of stuff like that, and so she will [00:24:20] do, it's like reiki plus there's, there's another name for it, but it's like light work, energy work, whatever. 

Carli: Yeah. She works with like Crystals too. Yeah, 

Alex: she's very, she's the witch of Wickenburg. [00:24:30] She's witchy. Yeah. We knew it all along. She's very in tune and in touch with her.

They call it, uh, divine Source. That's what she like. That's her. Yeah. [00:24:40] God, universe, divine source, whatever. Mm-hmm. Right. and if you've listened to the show, which I'm, you know, a lot of you have, obviously you're here, we did an episode with a woman [00:24:50] named Denise who had visited my mom for something very similar with an attachment.

And Colleen, my mom, was able [00:25:00] to. help that thing. Let go. Yeah. So she tells it to leave, to go whatever. I'm not exactly sure the exact wording, but Yes. So light work, energy [00:25:10] work, reiki, things like that. And so she does sessions for people who are in need. And, you and Kam had come to visit.

Carli: Yeah, 

Alex: and I, well, no, we, hold on a second. I 

Carli: think we had talked [00:25:20] about it before because when Denise came on the podcast, I was like. Alex, this has been happening to me, but I didn't know how to put it to words because it was like almost like I didn't like think about it until she [00:25:30] was like, yeah, this energy has been following me around for a long time.

Alex: Yeah. And 

Carli: so it kind of put it to words to me where I'm like, oh, I'm having the same issue, but I just didn't know if I was just like being haunted or like [00:25:40] just that something, something was happening that I had like triggered a spirit to like come into my life. Yeah. Latch 

Alex: onto you and I wasn't living in Arizona at the time. Mm-hmm. We had come from here and gone down there to [00:25:50] just kind of hang out and have a fun week. 

Carli: Yeah. Because visit in France, I think we hadn't seen you in a while,

I remember, 'cause I called you after Denise's episode and we talked on the phone and I said, Alex, I'm having a [00:26:00] similar experience, 

Alex: right.

Carli: And I was like, can I come see your mom? Yeah. Because you were already gonna go down there. 

Alex: Yeah, yeah, yeah. 

Carli: So I think you ended up inviting us to go for like a vacation. It was 

Alex: [00:26:10] Easter or something? It was 

Carli: Easter, yeah. And you were like, yeah, you can come see her. 

Alex: Yeah. 

And we had planned to go down, so because we have friends down there too. Mm-hmm. In Arizona. And so we were like [00:26:20] multiple birds with one stone. Let's just go have a good time.

And also you can go have a little session with my mother. Yeah. 

Carli: Yeah, so when I got [00:26:30] down there to like your place when we were staying there and I met your mom we just kind of started talking, but she knew that I wanted to have a reiki session.

I didn't tell her [00:26:40] why though, because. I didn't wanna freak her out, but I also was just like, it was kind of just for me, I didn't want to sound like insane. So [00:26:50] I like had a hard time telling people and I really only think, like, the two people I told were you and Kameron. but I, I kind of discussed with her why I wanted to do an [00:27:00] energy session.

I said, I, you know, I think it'd be good for me to have like some healing. And I didn't really tell her what was going on. and when we went down to her shop, she picked out like some [00:27:10] crystals and stuff, and she's like, these are gonna help, but when she started the session, I just immediately started to feel so much lighter.

and it was really weird because I, I didn't really believe [00:27:20] in reiki until I was like, I'm gonna go see your mom. Like, what's the worst that could happen? 

Alex: Yeah. 

Carli: But it, it changed, like I felt so much lighter and I started to feel [00:27:30] better. And at the end of the session she was like, you had a lot of heaviness, like a lot of dark spirits.

And she, she didn't really elaborate on that, [00:27:40] and I didn't ask either because I knew what it was, it was amazing that she just knew that from doing the session without me telling her, yeah. But after that, I didn't, I never saw the spirit [00:27:50] again. I still to this day, have not seen it in my doorway, thank goodness.

So I honestly feel like whatever it was, it really worked and it, it let go. And that's kind of what the whole session was about, about [00:28:00] like telling the spirit it's okay to go, you know? Yeah. 

Alex: That's been almost two years. Yeah. Give or take. 

Carli: Yeah. It's been two years. I have not seen it. I haven't had any weird [00:28:10] things happen, so I'm good.

Alex: So something worked. 

Carli: I'm even if it wasn't real, like, you know, I always like, 'cause people are always so skeptical, but I'm like, if it wasn't real, it [00:28:20] worked for me. So whatever it was. Yeah. Like I'm gonna recommend it to 

Alex: people. Yeah. Yeah. It's funny 'cause I, not 

Carli: to plug your mom's shop, but I also love your mom.

That's all we do. 

Alex: That's all we do. Yeah. [00:28:30] We love, we love my mom. She's great. Yeah. I was talking to someone recently about my mom. Am I a mama's boy? Yes. I brought this [00:28:40] up and how we got onto Reiki and the person I was talking to was like, okay, it's crazy. We say that because I had some reiki done and it like.

It like really worked for me. 

Carli: It really, [00:28:50] yeah, it really did. I felt like lighter, I felt happier. and when I came back to Utah, I was just feeling so much better about the whole situation. Like, yeah, there was a spirit attached to me, but you know, it [00:29:00] needed to be attached to me so that I could like let it go, you know, like having that kind of internal, 

Alex: as Denise had mentioned, maybe it needed to attach to me so I [00:29:10] could lead it back here and.

Carli: Yeah. And, and 

Alex: Colleen could help it go away 

Carli: Yeah. Or 

Alex: something. Or help it move on. I don't know. I mean, 

Carli: who knows what it, who knows? 

Alex: [00:29:20] And I'm skeptical while also being a believer I have to be skeptical in some ways. 

Carli: Yeah. And I feel like I'm even skeptical even though I've experienced this. Mm-hmm.

Because I'm like, [00:29:30] how much of it is my own fear? Yeah. Versus what's actually going on. Yeah. 

Alex: Could it be just. Psychological suggestion. I mean, who knows, but like you said, it, it [00:29:40] worked. 

Carli: Mm-hmm. 

Alex: So why bother? breaking it down? 

Carli: No, and I hone, I honestly would do it again. Like, it was weird how much was like taken off of me.

Mm-hmm. Like I felt lighter. [00:29:50] 

Alex: Yeah. 

Carli: So, 

Alex: well, you guys were gone for a while too. I remember that. 

Carli: Yeah. 

Alex: I remember you were gone for like hour and a half, maybe two hours. 

Carli: Mm-hmm. 

Alex: I wanna say it was like long. Yeah, I 

Carli: had [00:30:00] to have been, 'cause it was a long, and 

Alex: when you came back, this is from my POV, you were like Yeah, it was good.

Like you didn't really dive into it until way later. 

Carli: I [00:30:10] think I was just processing it. Yeah. Yeah, 

Alex: yeah. And 

Carli: I again, didn't wanna freak your mom out. And I don't wanna freak you out either, so I was like, I just need to think about it for a little bit. Yeah. And I know I [00:30:20] never told you that story till now, but yeah, that's what happened.

And honestly, it's helped. So 

Alex: yeah. So since then, you've been in the free and clear, free and clear, and [00:30:30] now we know if you have any, uh, dark attachments or maybe some traumas or anything that manifests a way that makes you feel [00:30:40] fearful, you can go to Colleen and Wickenburg. A balanced life. Yeah, a balanced life shop, I would not reckon.

Carli: Recommend enough? Yeah. She's the best. 10. Outta 

Alex: 10 would go [00:30:50] again. okay. Well, excellent. So why do you think this spirit followed you from place to place? And you don't have to [00:31:00] get. Into the thick of things if you don't want to. 

Carli: Yeah. 

Alex: But just off the dome, why do you think it stayed with you and followed you?

Carli: I think it, it's hard to [00:31:10] say ' cause it didn't always feel like malicious or scary, unless it was like nighttime. I would just wake up with like this fear. But I honestly, I'm not sure why it attached to me [00:31:20] because, when I was growing up in that house, I was Mormon and I was like very devout. So I just, anytime I felt fearful, I would be, I would pray or I [00:31:30] would, kind of think about that kind of stuff.

So it would ease my, fear about the, the spirit following me, but, mm-hmm. Yeah, as I, like left the house, it was just following me everywhere. It [00:31:40] was always really, really tall, like taller than the doorway. And yeah, I honestly don't know. I don't know if it's like they knew someone in my family or my dad always used to [00:31:50] say that my grandma was a witch.

So I don't know if that's like his fear of like where he grew up. He would always say his that my grandma was a [00:32:00] witch, so I never saw that she was a witch. Who knows? It could just be a spirit from that. But I honestly just feel like. Whatever it was like attached itself to me and just would follow me. [00:32:10] I don't know if it was trying to protect me.

I, it's hard to tell. Like it felt like a lot of things. 

Alex: Mm-hmm. 

Carli: Yeah. 

Alex: But being rid of it, you feel better overall. 

Carli: Yeah. I [00:32:20] feel, I feel a lot better. I think, I feel better knowing that it's like at peace at rest, whatever it was. Yeah. And I have felt so much better. Like especially sleeping at night, like I have [00:32:30] not seen it.

I haven't had any like weird interactions. Yeah. So. Okay, good. Why do you think it attached itself to me? 

Alex: Well, I mean, if we're gonna get real, [00:32:40] um, 

Carli: and you can cut this out. Yeah. But genuinely, 

Alex: I mean, it could have been a manifestation of trauma. 

Carli: Yeah. I know it could have been that a 

Alex: lot of negative [00:32:50] energy.

Carli: Yeah. 

Alex: That just kind of formed, or it could have been a multitude of spirits related to the trauma. I mean, there's a lot of shit that went on. [00:33:00] Yeah. And so all that negative energy it could have drawn something. Mm-hmm. I mean, you've done more than just reiki healing. You've gone, you've healed in [00:33:10] multiple ways from, from therapy then to now.

Exactly. Therapy, all of that. Doing all 

Carli: that. Yeah. 

Alex: I mean, all of that combined just makes you more light and like spiritually light. [00:33:20] Mm-hmm. You know what I mean? I don't know. I wanna say, I mean, the house is old. The house is old. The house is old. Mm-hmm. And I've said it before, anything pre seventies is haunted.

It just, is it, [00:33:30] the older you get, the likelihood goes up, time keeps moving forward. Some things are just getting older, you know, and I mean, everything is, but. I think there's just a higher likelihood [00:33:40] of well, someone died there, right? That lady died there. Yeah. Did she die in the house? I don't know.

She 

Carli: died in the house in the main room. Okay. Like in the, I guess the main [00:33:50] bedroom is where she passed away. Right. The master bedroom. 

Alex: So someone dies there. That can, I mean, if it was, A suspicious way, maybe that left some energy behind, you [00:34:00] know? 

Carli: Yeah. 

Alex: someone dying there, plus if there was any chaos or, you know, if there was tumultuous vibes in the house in general. Yes. it could have all just been, that would be the name [00:34:10] of my 

Carli: podcast. Most 

Alex: tumultuous vibe.

You could be the spinoff. Yeah. I just think a lot of those, a lot of things can stack up [00:34:20] and Yeah. Compound into this crazy whatever, this crazy energy that all of a sudden is like, Hey, following you around, Hey, I'm 

Carli: gonna follow you for, yeah, 20 years, 25 years. [00:34:30] 

Alex: Yeah. 

Carli: Yeah. 

Alex: Well, I don't know. I mean, it's not doing it anymore and that's all that matters.

Yeah. Do you have anything else that you remember or you want to throw in there for the peeps [00:34:40] to hear? 

Carli: No, that's, that's basically it. But I wouldn't mind coming back, 

Alex: but yeah. 

Carli: Yeah, I just, 

Alex: Carly has more to share, just not now. Yeah. [00:34:50] So in the future, maybe season four, who knows? Yeah, we'll see. hopefully have Carly back on to tell some more stories that are a little [00:35:00] more, uh, grounded and.

In our physical reality. Yeah. That are a little crazy. So, I think these stories are wonderful. I think the people will like them, [00:35:10] so that's good. If there's nothing else, do you want to like plug your socials or anything? 

Carli: Yeah, you can follow me at Carly Collins. On social media, I, the only app I [00:35:20] really post on is TikTok, so I mean, if you wanna follow me there, yes, 

Alex: she's got a great TikTok account.

Carli: It's me doing stupid things on video and then [00:35:30] posting it to the internet. So if you're down for that kind of vibe, 

Alex: hey, listen. there's something for everyone, yeah, I don't know a lot, but yeah, I'll tag Carly's TikTok in the description as well, so feel free [00:35:40] to follow her. we might do a joint TikTok live someday.

Just for fun to look out for that. But yeah, if there's nothing else, I, don't have any other questions. I hope that I [00:35:50] asked enough. 

Carli: and that's, and I hope I was clear enough. You know what, during the storytelling, 'cause I feel like 

Alex: yeah. Everywhere. I think it's fine. It was totally fine.

Listen, everyone, thank you for [00:36:00] listening. If you have any questions for me or for Carly. Reach out. You can email unholy vibes pod@gmail.com. You can also [00:36:10] DM me on Instagram or TikTok at Unholy Vibes Pod on both platforms. if you have any stories. Reach out. I want more. I always [00:36:20] want more. I want to hear your spooky stories, something that's happened to you, whether it's paranormal or not.

Reach out. We need it. we want to keep this going. So [00:36:30] season three of on the Holy Vibes. Off to a good start with our dear friend, Carly. Carly, thank you so much for coming on this show. Thank you for having me. 

Carli: I am a fan. 

Alex: True, true. I'm a 

Carli: big supporter, so thank you. 

Alex: [00:36:40] Indeed. She is. So thank you everyone. 

And then be sure to, share this with anyone else that you think might be into some spooky stories. I'd love for unholy vibes to keep growing and for [00:36:50] that to happen, I need your help. So like, share, subscribe, comment, whatever it is, you know, 

Carli: 360, no. Scope, the like button please. [00:37:00] 

Alex: Yeah. 360, no scope, the 

Carli: like button chat if you could.

360? No. Scope the like button. 

Alex: Oh, thank you. I'm sorry. No, no, you're fine guys. you're all [00:37:10] wonderful. thank you all for listening. I look forward to hearing from you, hearing what stories you have. I'd love to have any of you on the show if you've got a good story to tell.

So for now, stay [00:37:20] spooky and we'll see you next time.

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