As a founding member of the Ancient Tree Forum, Vikki Bengtsson has studied Europe's veteran trees and their special ecology for more than 30 years and her latest research remains at the cutting edge of tree related-science.

Tom and Vikki chat holes, hollows and cavities, delve deep into the idea that trees might live forever (if we let them) and discuss the thinking behind her most controversial work.

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