HORSE, FIRST - with Lockie Phillips
Yes, but let's put the horse first!
Taking a clear, ethical stance on horsemanship without judgement.
We are observant, humble, clear eyed, regulated and deeply respectful of our equine partners.
This podcast is not:
- Not human self-help using horses as metaphors
- Not romantic liberty training mythology
- Not moral superiority
- Not training evangelism
This podcast is:
- Deep listening
- Thoughtful questioning
- Slowing down human narratives
- Allowing the horse to be the authority
Join Lockie Phillips, the horseman behind Emotional Horsemanship, as we explore the inner world of the horse, the human systems that impact horses and building functional, ethical partnerships with horses where the horse is the authority on correctness. Guests from all around the world plus solo episodes to build connections based on truth telling, community and the joy of the HORSE FIRST way of life.
HORSE, FIRST - with Lockie Phillips
Horsemanship Must Evolve (with Leslie Desmond)
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In this episode of Horse First, Lockie Phillips is joined by horsewoman and author Leslie Desmond for a wide-ranging conversation about the evolution of horsemanship. Together they reflect on the major eras that have shaped how humans train and understand horses, exploring what those traditions got right, where their insights remain valuable, and where new knowledge invites revision. The discussion moves from the vaquero and ranch traditions through modern horsemanship movements, and into the responsibilities facing today’s horse people. Leslie and Lockie explore what the next generation may need to contribute if horsemanship is to continue evolving in ways that honor both the horse and the relationship. A thoughtful, forward-looking conversation about lineage, learning, and the future of horse culture.
Come and learn with Lockie inside the EH School.
A low-cost, high-value, flexible membership for horse people who want more than quick fixes and louder answers.
Inside, you’ll find a growing video library, a thoughtful off–social media discussion space, and live coaching calls with Lockie, all designed to help you get to the heart of what’s really happening in your horsemanship.
This is not about following a method.
It’s about building clarity, skill, and conf
The EH School is a quiet place in a loud industry.
A low-cost, high-value membership where horse people come to slow down, think clearly, and build real skill with horses at the centre.
With a deep video library, an off-social discussion space, and live calls with Lockie, you’ll have support that feels steady, practical, and refreshingly human.
Not a system to obey.
A craft to practice.
For more information check out www.emotionalhorsemanship.com!