Episode 38: Marko Hietala(Ex Nightwish) Left on Mars review

In this week’s episode of Mandatory Music, we dive into Marko Hietala’s captivating new song, Left on Mars. Join us as we explore the song’s themes, musicality, and what it reveals about Hietala’s artistry. Along the way, we share a dynamic conversation covering various topics that music fans won’t want to miss. Tune in for another engaging episode full of insight and passion for all things music!

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Episode 38 - Transcript

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Mandatory Music, Sebastian Kwapich

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Mandatory Music: Good evening and welcome back to Mandatory Music. I'm Mike. I'm here as always with my somewhat healthy bestie Sebastian patient zero himself.

Sebastian Kwapich: Patience. Here we go.

Mandatory Music: He's made it a second week. So, he's getting better slowly.

Mandatory Music: He sounds better than he did last week. So, …

Sebastian Kwapich: Yeah, my voice is somewhat back,…

Sebastian Kwapich: but man,…

Mandatory Music: somewhat back.

Sebastian Kwapich: this is a fun one, guys. So,…

Mandatory Music: So yesterday, we could talk a little hockey for a second. You got to go watch your Vancouver Conucks in a luxury suite,…

Sebastian Kwapich: I did.

Mandatory Music: I believe,…

Sebastian Kwapich: I did.

Mandatory Music: living the high life.

Sebastian Kwapich: Yes. …

Mandatory Music: Was there free food and drinks as well?

Sebastian Kwapich: for me it was, but I mean, someone had to pay for it,…

Mandatory Music: It's always better…

Sebastian Kwapich: but I wasn't paying for it.

Sebastian Kwapich: Yeah, dude.

Mandatory Music: if it's not you paying for it.

Sebastian Kwapich: The best part of the food honestly. So you have the staple stuff. There's a veggie tray, there's popcorn, desserts are out. They come out with a pizza and little mini burgers, but they rolled in a portable gelato station. And so they had four different gelades and…

Mandatory Music: Goodness.

Sebastian Kwapich: that was the best part. It was really good the gelato.

Sebastian Kwapich: It was a really nice way to finish off the whole meal and…

Mandatory Music: Absolutely.

Sebastian Kwapich: they come into the start of the third period.

Mandatory Music: Yep. Do you remember…

Sebastian Kwapich: So there's mango,…

Mandatory Music: what flavors of gelato they had?

Sebastian Kwapich: strawberry, chocolate and salted caramel.

Mandatory Music: You had …

Sebastian Kwapich: I had chocolate,…

Mandatory Music: of course you had me a strawberry.

Mandatory Music: Yeah, I'm now.

Sebastian Kwapich: but somebody actually had the bright idea of getting the salted caramel cuz it was vanilla based with salted caramel and then they got two cookies and made an ice cream sandwich out of it. I was like, that is genius.

Mandatory Music: That is Absolutely brilliant.

Mandatory Music: Man, that's amazing. That I just would have either gone strawberry or salted caramel. I never would have thought to we got cookies here too. Let's make a sandwich. that's cool.

Sebastian Kwapich: Yeah, it's thinking outside the box there.

Sebastian Kwapich: I should have mixed the match.

Mandatory Music: That's amazing.

Sebastian Kwapich: I should have got a chocolate and salted caramel cuz those two together are pretty good.

Mandatory Music: That have been really good. Chocolate and…

Sebastian Kwapich: Yeah. Don't know.

Mandatory Music: caramel is amazing. how was the game? I don't even know Who are they playing? Okay.

Sebastian Kwapich: We lost 42, I believe. because I don't know if any of our listeners or if you have ever been a private box situation. and I'm sure Pepsi has a lot of boxes, maybe more so at the BC place than they do at hockey,…

Mandatory Music: Yeah. Yep.

Sebastian Kwapich: but I've been to in a box several times and a lot of the times it's just social hour. So, you're there with people, the previous time we were in a box, we did a prize with all three pubs where the top four winners got to go to a hockey game. So we were hosting it kind of so we weren't even really allowed to watch and…

Mandatory Music: Okay. Yeah.

Sebastian Kwapich: this time we went with all the managers of the pubs and stuff like that and…

Sebastian Kwapich: and I haven't seen some of these people in months cuz or…

Mandatory Music: Yeah.

Sebastian Kwapich: or been in a situation where I can just chat with them about everything. So there's a lot of social hour that happens and you kind of stop paying attention to the game. but it's not about the game, it's about being in that environment and being with people. plus when Kirk Mlan walks into your box,…

Mandatory Music: Yeah. I think yeah.

Sebastian Kwapich: you kind of forget about the game and go and talk to him for a hot minute. So yeah.

Mandatory Music: Yeah. YouTube save of the century. 1994. Was 94.

Sebastian Kwapich: The 94 run.

Mandatory Music: was 94, right? Yeah.

Sebastian Kwapich: Yeah, it might have been 93 94.

Mandatory Music: Yeah. I think on YouTube it's labeled Save of the Century.

Sebastian Kwapich: Yeah. Yeah,…

Mandatory Music: So, yeah, go look up Save of the Century on YouTube. And if you like hockey, it's And if you haven't seen it, it's a pretty good save. It's all right.

Sebastian Kwapich: we won't even talk about…

Mandatory Music: Nothing.

Sebastian Kwapich: what it meant in that moment, but yeah, it's very impactful if you're a banking account.

Mandatory Music: No, that's cool. But I went to when we had the Grizzlies.

Sebastian Kwapich: Yep. Yeah. Nice.

Mandatory Music: I went to two games in a box. One with my dad and I can't remember what the other one was for. And then it was like my dad won the tickets and it was free booze and free drinks and…

Sebastian Kwapich: Yeah. Did you sit and…

Mandatory Music: my dad no I didn't see any of the game.

Sebastian Kwapich: 

Mandatory Music: It was impossible to pay attention and…

Sebastian Kwapich: you're standing and Yeah. Yeah.

Mandatory Music: there was a bunch of people there and blah blah. So it just turned into social hour and how many drinks can you consume in a two-hour basketball game and safe to say it was kind of ugly.

Sebastian Kwapich: Get at her, kid. Yeah.

Mandatory Music: It was kind of ugly the next morning. I didn't feel very good. So, whatever. is It was fun at the time. So, yeah.

Sebastian Kwapich: I'm proud.

Mandatory Music: …

Sebastian Kwapich: I'm proud of you, Mike. Hey,…

Mandatory Music: thank Back in when I used to actually drink more than two beer and Yeah. Whatever.

Sebastian Kwapich: that's not in your circle of things that you want to do, which is totally fine.

Mandatory Music: No. No. Exactly. yeah.

Sebastian Kwapich: Yeah. Yeah. The funny thing is that we had Okay, so we had all of this free alcohol last night and so Our kitchen manager from Poco doesn't drink. I'm not drinking because of my antibiotics. Another one of them is been sober for two years, so they're not drinking. And then the parents weren't drinking cuz their kids were there, so they didn't want to drink too much. So there's all of this liquor to take advantage of,…

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Mandatory Music: Nobody's taking advantage of it.

Sebastian Kwapich: but nobody's actually drinking any of it, which is fine.

Mandatory Music: Yeah,…

Sebastian Kwapich: It's fine, But …

Mandatory Music: but even 20 years ago, we would have been like, there's all that booze. Someone maybe more than 20 years ago, but at this point,…

Sebastian Kwapich: Yeah. Yeah.

Mandatory Music: but there's a big tray of stuff. We need to drink all of that, and there's not going to be a drop left.

Sebastian Kwapich: Cannot be anything left. We got to go.

Mandatory Music: No. No. Exactly. Every little.

Sebastian Kwapich: Yeah. We got to consume.

Mandatory Music: So, tonight we are going to venture back into the universe of Nightw Wish.

Sebastian Kwapich: Yeah. News announcements. Sure.

Mandatory Music: Before we do that, there are a couple of little news items, one big and one sort of I just wanted your opinion on it. Steve Vi and Joe Satriani and they tour together in the G3, which is, three great guitar players. It's usually Eric Johnson or whomever, but it's been all sorts of people.

Sebastian Kwapich: It's been in Valstein at some point as well too.

Mandatory Music: But they released a single they put a band together.

Sebastian Kwapich: Yeah. I haven't heard about this.

Mandatory Music: It was just the two of them and whoever's banned. But they've decided to actually make a band called Satchvi and they're going to tour Europe this summer. Yeah. it was just announced today.

Sebastian Kwapich: So, it's interesting.

Mandatory Music: They initially joined forces for their first ever tour outside of the G3 format in the spring across select US cities. They decided it was finally time to form a band together and bring that winning formula to the live stage beginning in Europe. if you want, I can't remember what the song is called, but I think it's under satisfy. there's a song on YouTube they released back in the spring. it's pretty good. I think it's all instrumental.

Sebastian Kwapich: Okay.

Mandatory Music: And how do you feel about having two virtuosos in one cohesive band?

Mandatory Music: and I'm catching you totally off guard because I didn't even test.

Sebastian Kwapich: No, no, no. I have a thought on this.

Mandatory Music: Okay.

Sebastian Kwapich: So, for all intents and purposes, you could call this a super band, right? Name me one impactful super band song that you've ever heard that you've blown you out of the water in the past.

Mandatory Music: More or less. super groupoup songs that really stick out.

Sebastian Kwapich: I just feel like So, as soon as you said that, the first thing I thought of was The band Chickenfoot with Sammy Hagar and…

Mandatory Music: Yes. Yep.

Sebastian Kwapich: Joe Satriani,…

Mandatory Music: Michael Anthony.

Sebastian Kwapich: Chad Smith,…

Mandatory Music: And Chad Smith.

Sebastian Kwapich: 

Mandatory Music: Yeah. No.

Sebastian Kwapich: I have not enjoyed a single chicken foot song anytime I've ever ever listened to it. I just don't know what it is. So, we have said this before, the whole too many cooks in the kitchen scenario here.

Mandatory Music: Yeah. Yeah.

Sebastian Kwapich: But having said that, Satriani and Steve have been touring together for so many years,…

Mandatory Music: They've been friends,…

Sebastian Kwapich: right? …

Mandatory Music: it says here, for over 50 years.

Sebastian Kwapich: And I think Steve Satriani used to be his guitar teacher if I'm not mistaken at one point.

Mandatory Music: Yes, he did.

Sebastian Kwapich: And it could work. I'm just wondering if because there's so much more progress and…

Sebastian Kwapich: advance in music theory and what you can do on a guitar that they're going to push that boundary to see where the guitar could become and it loses the appeal of just sounding good.

Mandatory Music: Yeah. Yep. Yep.

Sebastian Kwapich: Do you know what I mean? It's like you listen to investing for, and sometimes he plays so bloody fast that it loses the sense of good music because it's so intricate.  Stone.

Mandatory Music: It sounds like just muddled noise at that point. And if you put Ingve and some other super just two rando guitarists together that they know each other.

Sebastian Kwapich: Yeah, that's…

Mandatory Music: They're not great friends like these guys are. I think It would turn into a wankfest. But I think these guys Yeah.

Sebastian Kwapich: what I'm scared of. I don't want it just to be like a wankfest. I want there to be some soul put into the music,…

Mandatory Music: But I think Satra and…

Sebastian Kwapich: ?

Mandatory Music: he's at an age because I don't know he's almost 60. and his music nowadays is a lot it's very melodic. It's not shreddy anymore. And I don't think Vi plays shreddy. he plays shreddyish. But he sure …

Sebastian Kwapich: He has the ability to I would assume so…

Mandatory Music: they both do, but I let's say they put a record out, which I'm assuming they're going to have to do something.

Mandatory Music: or…

Sebastian Kwapich: if they're forming a batch,…

Mandatory Music: just play each other's or…

Sebastian Kwapich: I mean,…

Mandatory Music: just play each other's songs like guitar solos to it which would be kind of dumb but if they put a I think they're seasoned enough musicians at this point where they don't need to show off they have nothing to prove they're going two friends are going to go out and play music together I think they're going to put songs the quality first sure yeah right Yeah,…

Sebastian Kwapich: it's a fascinating concept, to have two of them recording together. I wonder what the recording process is going to be like. Do they each bring five songs or six songs to the table or do they just sit in a room and jam it out and go, "What do we got here?" So I think yeah,…

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Mandatory Music: I would kind of hope it's the latter because I think jamming it out with guys like that would be way like bring in some ideas, but hammer it out together in a studio would be amazing. I think that'd be really cool.

Sebastian Kwapich: you got some very distinctive styles, right? Because Jose does not play the way Steve Vi plays.

Mandatory Music: No. Yeah. Yeah.

Sebastian Kwapich: Steve Vai is very experimental on the guitar. he's an early version of Buckethead, I guess, where he really tries to find new ways of squealing things with whammy bar dives and…

Mandatory Music: Yep.

Sebastian Kwapich: all sorts of stuff. And then Satriani is more like your traditional shredder…

Mandatory Music: A little more straightforward.

Sebastian Kwapich: where more straightforward, but he's also never used a W pedal better than any other guitarist I've ever experienced in my life.

Mandatory Music: No.

Sebastian Kwapich: it doesn't you when I hear a whammy bar solo from Jose Atriani I have to remind myself that he's using or not a whammy bar a W pedal solo I have to remind myself that he's using a W pedal…

Mandatory Music: Yep. Yeah.

Sebastian Kwapich: because it's so smooth you don't even notice it at first whereas you listen to Kirk Hammond you're like here's the wall pedal it's aggressive right Yeah.

Mandatory Music: No, it comes again. It's And if you want a good example of that, go listen to You Save My Life off Strange Beautiful Music, the closing track.

Mandatory Music: It's arguably in my opinion the most beautiful W pedal subtle solo ever put on tape digital media whatever how you record it's totally yeah absolutely yeah and…

Sebastian Kwapich: Or Or if you want something that's more like 80s in tune surfing with the alien because that is a master class on how to properly use a wall pedal. Both of them are yeah, but Mike's is more approach for sure.

Mandatory Music: that's sort of my approach to music I think especially going forward now. It's a little less more is kind of my thing.

Sebastian Kwapich: Yeah. Saturday or…

Mandatory Music: And the second piece of news it's Iron Maiden's drummer McBrain. He is 72 years young. He's had a myriad of health problems over the last couple years. And he announced on Saturday. Sure. Let's go with Yeah.

Sebastian Kwapich: 

Mandatory Music: He announced a couple days ago that their last show in Brazil Sa Paulo was his final gig ever behind the kit live.

Sebastian Kwapich: S Paulo Brazilian.

Mandatory Music: I don't know. they emphasize live and…

Sebastian Kwapich: Yeah, that's fascinating because there's a chance that they pull him into studio to do the drum tracks…

Mandatory Music: right I think he can I hope they can…

Sebastian Kwapich: if there's a new Maiden album. Yeah.

Mandatory Music: because he's been on almost every record except for the first two I think 42 years that would take him to 82 he start I think he came on a number of the beats just like Bruce so Clyde Burr yeah he had MS he got real sick too…

Sebastian Kwapich: Yes. Yeah. I took over from Clive Bar. Hi B.

Mandatory Music: but Nick's been behind a kid forever.

Sebastian Kwapich: Yeah. 40 some odd years,…

Mandatory Music: And they've already announced,…

Sebastian Kwapich: Yeah.

Mandatory Music: yeah, they've already announced a replacement drummer. It's the British Lion, Steve Harris's side project drummer, which only makes sense because him and Steve probably have a good relationship and I'm sure he can play all the stuff. Yes.

Sebastian Kwapich: They've been friends for a long time.

Mandatory Music: So, it's sad when we're getting to that point in our lives that our favorite bands are getting old and…

Sebastian Kwapich: Yeah. Yeah.

Mandatory Music: this is going to start happening to our favorite bands where someone's going to drop off for I just want to retire health reasons or god forbid the worst. and…

Sebastian Kwapich: Or they may not be able to play anymore because they can't keep up.

Mandatory Music: it's right cuz Maiden's pushing 70 our other favorite band Metallica's and…

Sebastian Kwapich: And Yeah.

Mandatory Music: getting in their 60s and they're not going to be doing it forever.

Sebastian Kwapich: Yeah. Yeah.

Mandatory Music: So it's was like this is kind of sad and we saw them last year on the days of the Just future past.

Mandatory Music: Yeah,…

Sebastian Kwapich: Our comment actually just interject real quick there,…

Mandatory Music: please. Sorry.

Sebastian Kwapich: Our comment after the show is what was going on with the drums…

Mandatory Music: Yes, they were off.

Sebastian Kwapich: because they're noticeably worse.

Mandatory Music: Yeah. Yeah.

Sebastian Kwapich: It's like he was compensating for his inability by playing different things and…

Mandatory Music: Yeah. Yeah.

Sebastian Kwapich: Iron Maiden is known as a band that is flawless live. just to hear the imperfections specifically with the drums was somewhat concerning.

Mandatory Music: Yeah. I think his left side was paralyzed for a couple of months and…

Sebastian Kwapich: But he did suffer a stroke earlier in that year. So yeah,…

Mandatory Music: then he they got six months after a stroke he was on tour.

Mandatory Music: So to come out and…

Sebastian Kwapich: yeah, pull it off is amazing first of all.

Mandatory Music: be able to play at the pull it off and maiden tours like they're 25 they'll play two three nights in a row,…

Sebastian Kwapich: Yeah. Yep.

Mandatory Music: take a day off, play another two, three nights. they're nuts. it ab there is no good reason to play that much at a time.

Sebastian Kwapich: Yeah, they don't tour long anymore,…

Mandatory Music: You can play a couple times a week.

Sebastian Kwapich: but they tour aggressively.

Mandatory Music: But when they're out there, man, it's nuts.

Sebastian Kwapich: Yeah, it's no break basic.

Mandatory Music: I remember looking at this South American run for the future past and it was just like holy crap. They're playing three nights in a row, then they get a day off, they're traveling, and then they're playing again, and then they're playing again.

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Sebastian Kwapich: Yeah, it's crazy.

Mandatory Music: And it's like, but I think they knew they probably agreed at the beginning of this run. Yeah.

Sebastian Kwapich: The fact that he put out a statement saying he left the band and the day after they have a replacement drummer, that has to tell you that this has been in the works for months,…

Mandatory Music: Yeah, probably maybe even a year or…

Sebastian Kwapich: if not for the last year.

Mandatory Music: two or a couple.

Sebastian Kwapich: Yeah. They knew this was coming. Yeah.

Mandatory Music: Yeah, the beginning of this tour is once we finish once we do South America in 2024, he's like, I'm assuming I'm done.

Mandatory Music: But, hats off to the man. He's, one of those sort of people you watch in videos and stuff. He's always full of life. He seems fun and he's one hell of a drummer. just that dude and some of those songs like what was I listening to yesterday? just because I felt like it. A rhyme of the Intermariner song. It's just and…

Sebastian Kwapich: Yeah. Yeah.

Sebastian Kwapich: Great drums.

Mandatory Music: it's god they're so good. And then I listened to a whole Power Slave album. I was doing stuff. I just had it on. I was man the drums are just and even in the newer stuff the drums are the best part of the records and they always come out and say when they release new record Niko's drumming is so unbelievable, right?

Sebastian Kwapich: Never been better. It's never been better.

Mandatory Music: So, it's I think they,…

Sebastian Kwapich: Yeah. Yeah.

Mandatory Music: obviously he knows and they know and they're just, propping him up but the drumming it's excellent. it's Yeah.

Sebastian Kwapich: He is a stereotypical drummer, though. It's like everything that you imagine a drummer being like he's not loud. He's not in your face. Just put him in a hole, barricade him among some drums, and he'll just close his eyes and just focus on the drumming.

Mandatory Music: And when you see Maiden live,…

Sebastian Kwapich: Yeah. Yeah.

Mandatory Music: you cannot see him because he's got 700,000 symbols and toms and everything in front of him and you can't even see his top of his head. he is just buried.

Sebastian Kwapich: Yeah. He's in a little mini castle.

Mandatory Music: They always have a camera like an above cam. I think there's one in front of him that we'll zoom to every once in a while during live shows, but he definitely doesn't want to be front and center like everybody else in the band.

Mandatory Music: So's other drummers that we look up to and rever I don't want to name any names…

Sebastian Kwapich: You'll be missed.

Mandatory Music: but basically every other rock drummer that everybody you need hey the drummer needs to be seen. Nico's like hell no I do not. So yeah that's so congrats to 42 years and enjoy your retirement and…

Sebastian Kwapich: Yep. No,…

Mandatory Music: I hope you play dramas on whenever the next record comes. yeah do you have anything? You said you had a couple things. Do you have anything?

Sebastian Kwapich: it was the Iron Maiden thing as I was going to bring up,…

Mandatory Music: Okay.

Sebastian Kwapich: but yeah, you already got to it. So, we are good.

Mandatory Music: So, tonight I like to scour YouTube. It's because it's fun.

Sebastian Kwapich: Sure it does.

Mandatory Music: And I follow the Nuclear Blast Records channel and there's stuff I don't like. It's not for everybody. But it wasn't even the song we're going to talk about.

Sebastian Kwapich: He definitely looks like Gandalf.

Mandatory Music: It was a different song came on. It was called Frankenstein's Wife.

Mandatory Music: We're not going to talk about Frank cuz his wife. and I was " interesting. Who is this guy? He looks like an older rocker. Got big beard, white hair." I " it's like Gandalf. This is money." So, I put it on and I'm like, "Right." And I'm like, "I know This sounds familiar." And I like when we did our Night Wish episode about Yester Wind,…

Sebastian Kwapich: Yeah. Yeah.

Mandatory Music: I admitted I know absolutely nothing about Nightwish. I didn't even clue in that Michael Heila is the former bass player and I'm assuming one of the songwriting part of the duo that wrote songs for that band because we even said on our Nightwish one we did there was something missing on this record and so he's got one other solo record out and I listened to that too and I'm like this is exactly what was missing on the new Nightwish was this guy.

Mandatory Music: So he joined the band. We'll start there. He joined the band in 2001.

Mandatory Music: So he spent 20 years in the band. to see I'm not sure. I'm trying to find if he was actually heavy into the songwriting, but it says upon his arrival.

Sebastian Kwapich: Yeah. …

Sebastian Kwapich: the first album that he would have done would have been Century Child, which was in 2002.

Mandatory Music: Okay.

Sebastian Kwapich: So, he has one songwriting credit on that, which is Beauty of the Beast. so that's all I've got so far,…

Mandatory Music: Okay.

Sebastian Kwapich: 

Mandatory Music: It says upon his arrival to Nightw Wish, several songs were written to contain duets with then Nightwish vocalist Ta Tunan. I'm sorry if I butcher that. my pronunciations are whatever.

Mandatory Music: But it says here allowing songwriter and band leader so Tuis to take advantage of Hila's distinctive rockas voice to add a new dimension to the band.

Mandatory Music: A famous example is Night Witch's cover of Phantom the Opera from the album Century Child. So yes.

Sebastian Kwapich: So Tia is the original singer for Nightw Wish.

Sebastian Kwapich: She was replaced by Annette and then Annette I think was only there for two albums and then Flor Yansen came in and…

Mandatory Music: Yeah. Yeah. Yes.

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Sebastian Kwapich: is now the lead vocalist for Nightw but yeah, so whenever they wanted to do a duet with a male and female voice, it was Marco that would step up to the plate and do the singing. So not unheard of but quite uncommon when your bas basist is one of your vocalists. So Jean Simmons is that way and…

Mandatory Music: and he's got an amazing voice…

Sebastian Kwapich: a Yeah.

Mandatory Music: because I know I think on Yester Wine their new bass player was doing some of the vocals and it's just not nearly the same as Marco singing. So, I'm just going to go say that flat out.

Sebastian Kwapich: 

Mandatory Music: Okay.

Sebastian Kwapich: it looks like he has at least one or usually just one credit on every album for a song. So, he brings one song to the table for every album.

Mandatory Music: I'm sure is he seems quite virtuosic with his songwriting because he writes.

Sebastian Kwapich: It literally says all songs written, lyrics and musical written by Thomas.

Mandatory Music: Except for Yeah.

Sebastian Kwapich: And then when you go through it, there's additional lyrics by Marco,…

Mandatory Music: Okay.

Sebastian Kwapich: music by Marco.

Mandatory Music: Okay. …

Sebastian Kwapich: So, you can make that reference.

Mandatory Music: then maybe I am wrong but it just seems like his influence maybe it's kind of like comparing this to when Jason left Metallica. They

Mandatory Music: They significantly obviously the sound s anger whatever that's I don't know…

Sebastian Kwapich: Okay.

Mandatory Music: where I'm getting. It's like they just changed as a band and their sound changed and even live I'm going to say They're not nearly as good with Rob as they are with Jason. It's just me. but that's not what we're talking.

Sebastian Kwapich: So, yeah.

Mandatory Music: Yeah, that's another topic for another day. maybe we'll just put that on the back burner. long story short,…

Sebastian Kwapich: The original night was Yeah.

Mandatory Music: we are doing a song called Left on Mars off of Marco's upcoming Roses from the Deep releasing February 7th of 2025. And it features Taria Terrunan, the original vocalist,…

Mandatory Music: Nightwish. So, I was like, I saw that and I'm like, oo. And I'm like,…

Mandatory Music: I know Seb loves this kind of music and I'm like, hey, you need to listen to this. Maybe we could talk about it.

Mandatory Music: And their two voices together make an amazing duo.

Sebastian Kwapich: Yeah. what?

Sebastian Kwapich: When I heard the song for the first time, my first impression,…

Mandatory Music: Okay. No,…

Sebastian Kwapich: this is so not Nightwish.

Mandatory Music: it's the polar opposite.

Sebastian Kwapich: It's very funky almost. It's fascinating a lot on this podcast.

Mandatory Music: That's okay.

Sebastian Kwapich: I'll have to go through a thesaurus and see what other It's astonishing to me…

Mandatory Music: There You did it. Who needs a thesaurus?

Sebastian Kwapich: how much different is from the traditional Nightwish symphonic metal.

Mandatory Music: Yep. Maybe.

Sebastian Kwapich: And I don't know if that's a stylistic choice to try to differentiate himself from Nightw Wish or not, but it's like when you look at the chord structures and how the guitar plays the chords, like that's not a typical Nightwish sound,…

Mandatory Music: Yeah. Yeah.

Sebastian Kwapich: which is fine. there's nothing wrong with that,…

Mandatory Music: …

Sebastian Kwapich: but it's very staccato, very chunky. So,

Mandatory Music: when I first put the song on,…

Mandatory Music: my literal first thought was that intro riff that it reminded me of Joe Satriani and that's kind of funny how I Okay,…

Sebastian Kwapich: Yeah. Yeah.

Sebastian Kwapich: I have that actually written on a notepad.

Mandatory Music: it's okay.

Sebastian Kwapich: I'm like,…

Mandatory Music: It's not just me.

Sebastian Kwapich: this is a Joe Satriani riff.

Mandatory Music: Yeah, it's a satch riff from the late 90s kind of.

Sebastian Kwapich: Just waiting for some screaming guitar to get on top of it.

Mandatory Music: My god, That's so funny.

Sebastian Kwapich: Right. Yeah.

Mandatory Music: Yeah, exactly. All you need is some screaming solo to be on top of that.

Mandatory Music: Man, this is so Sandreani and I'm like, cool somebody else is doing this. I'm like, it's so cool.

Sebastian Kwapich: 100% it's a Satriotti song.

Sebastian Kwapich: Yeah, it No,…

Mandatory Music: That's so funny that we had the same thought. That's amazing. And we didn't plan that. It was just we haven't even talked privately about this. We are saving it all for tonight.

Sebastian Kwapich: we have not.

Mandatory Music: Yeah.

Sebastian Kwapich: Yeah, you're so right though. It's like that typical 80s 90s instrumental chord progression that you just shred over top of.

Mandatory Music: And…

Sebastian Kwapich: So yeah,…

Mandatory Music: I think because I listened to his previous record, too, and it's all riff heavy guitar driven music. And I'm just I'm but I just have it on right now and I'm losing track of what the hell I'm supposed to what I'm talking about. Yes. Went.

Sebastian Kwapich: it's so the song for me really takes off when they get to the chorus. Both of them are singing together. The chorus is the high is and I think the chorus should usually be the highlight of the song is that's…

Mandatory Music: Yes. Yeah.

Sebastian Kwapich: that's the payoff of all of the work that you've done in the song. you're bringing the audience to the chorus and then the course is supposed to be a payoff.

Mandatory Music: Absolutely right.

Sebastian Kwapich: But it's so coral in sounding and…

Mandatory Music: That's what you built.

Mandatory Music: That's yeah.

Sebastian Kwapich: it's like they play off of each other very well. The duet of the v of the male and…

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Mandatory Music: Yeah. I you know what?

Sebastian Kwapich: the feminine sounding vocal lines. So, I don't actually think that there's anything behind the lyrics than what it actually is. And I honestly think it's an alien saying that he's been left on Mars. I don't actually think there's more to it than that.

Mandatory Music: I completely agree. I'm looking at them right now and yeah,…

Sebastian Kwapich: Sorry, I coughed in the mic.

Mandatory Music: it's all good.

Sebastian Kwapich: And that's okay.

Mandatory Music: Yeah, I think you're totally right. it's literally No,…

Sebastian Kwapich: Sometimes you don't need these deep metaphorical lyrics. This is exactly…

Mandatory Music: you don't.

Sebastian Kwapich: what you get in the lyrics.

Mandatory Music: And even the other single, Frankenstein's Wife, it kind of beats you over the head,…

Sebastian Kwapich: Frank, his wife. Yeah. Not. Yeah.

Mandatory Music: with it. And that's fine. Or could means it could have a deeper meaning, but I don't know.

Mandatory Music: The video was pretty cool for it to I haven't watched this video yet but Frank Son's wife was interesting but even like you said the sound is sewn on night I wish even I'm sort of in the bridge part and there is keys and…

Mandatory Music: synth and all that in there but it's buried like it's guitar bass and drums is forefront. Yes. Yeah. Yep. But I can't get over…

Sebastian Kwapich: Yeah, I mean you hear it a lot in the chorus when the synth comes out.

Sebastian Kwapich: So he's a very good vocalist.

Mandatory Music: how good his voice is, though. it just Yeah.

Sebastian Kwapich: Yeah, he has a tender side too as well where he can go soft as well but he can still has that metal sound that he needs.

Mandatory Music: Yeah. …

Mandatory Music: I'm going to back up a bit. So, in December of 2020, which 2020 sucked for anybody out there that did what?

Sebastian Kwapich: Yeah, we can all agree to that.

Sebastian Kwapich: We can all agree to That it's suck.

Mandatory Music: Yeah, I think we could all agree to that.

Mandatory Music: 2020 was stupid and most of 21 probably wasn't very good either. But anyways, so he decides to leave Nightwish at the end of 2020. he decided to leave to focus on other projects. He'd also been suffering from several mental disorders including depression for over a decade despite medication.  He kept getting worse and after the recording of human 2 and in part due to the rest brought by the co pandemic he finally decided reach the conclusion the band leaving the band to prevent the illnesses from worsening. So he announced it in January 12th of 2021 that he was publicly leaving the band. and 10 days later Swedish symphonic metal band Theion released a music video for the song god.

Mandatory Music: Twanella, I'm not that featured, Marco. So, obviously he wanted to, like you said, he's only getting one writing credit per per record. we're Okay, so we're trying a new format tonight. We used to record on Zoom. I'm not doing Zoom anymore. We're trying Google Meet. And Sebastian is plucking emojis all over the screen,…

Sebastian Kwapich: Don't even try it.

Sebastian Kwapich: And I'm sending him emails.

Mandatory Music: and it's making me laugh. because obviously we're not together because he's in Vancouver and…

Mandatory Music: I'm not. So, …

Sebastian Kwapich: Yeah, they're three hours away.

Mandatory Music: so yeah, so he left the band because he probably wanted a creative Fair enough. And obviously with all the stuff going on upstairs,…

Mandatory Music: the right decision was to leave the band. and just listening to these two songs that and the other album you released, I think he made the right choice.

Mandatory Music: I Yeah,…

Sebastian Kwapich: Yeah, he's going to further his musical career and,…

Sebastian Kwapich: explore things that he wasn't able to explore in Night you're involved in Nightw Wish is one man's band. let's be real here.

Mandatory Music: it seems like it's Yep.

Sebastian Kwapich: It's his brainchild. And that's okay because a lot of bands have that leader of the band that it's their band.

Mandatory Music: Yeah, absolutely.

Sebastian Kwapich: Iron Maiden and Steve Harris. Although I feel like with Iron Maiden there's a lot more contribution with the other band members.

Mandatory Music: Yes. Yes.

Sebastian Kwapich: If Bruce came up to Steve Harris saying I got an idea for a song, he won't just say no. He'll explore that fully to see if it will fit on an Iron Maiden record.

Mandatory Music: Yeah. …

Sebastian Kwapich: But we don't Ryan Maiden Yeah,…

Mandatory Music: backing that up, even though Bruce wanted Somewhere in Time to be an acoustic record, Steve basically put up two middle fingers and was like, "No, we're not doing that." Yeah. No. So, probably a wise decision in the long run.

Sebastian Kwapich: that's a bit of an odd one considering when it was recorded.

Mandatory Music: Not where they were…

Sebastian Kwapich: That would have been that one I don't think that would have done well in their trajectory of their career when that came out.

Mandatory Music: because you're Yeah.

Sebastian Kwapich: If they did it now, it would be totally different. But yeah.

Mandatory Music: You're following up Power Slave with an acoustic record. Not so much.

Sebastian Kwapich: Yeah. Not in that era,…

Mandatory Music: I don't think so too.

Sebastian Kwapich: Not in the late 80s.

Mandatory Music: No, homie don't play that as they used to say.

Sebastian Kwapich: No. Yeah,…

Mandatory Music: So he performed with his solo band. this is July 2023. joining former Nightw Wish bandmate Toria on her solo show later that evening for Phantom of the Opera. it was the first time they had sung together after Tia left or she was fired from Nightw Wish in 2005. That could be interesting to get into that. so yeah,…

Sebastian Kwapich: it's a

Mandatory Music: so it sounds like when she left everybody was just like whatever and then he just says what the hell, let's go sing a song and now I think it's only the one song on the album.

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Mandatory Music: the only one that has any sort of featuring on it, but again all the songs aren't released. And it's nice that Left on Mars is not written just by Marco. Looks like it was written by the whole band or three of the band members. So that's kind of nice…

Mandatory Music: because I don't know if he's an accomplished guitar player, too, or he plays keys or anything like that. I have no idea. because right and…

Sebastian Kwapich: or he does the Aussie Osborne technique…

Sebastian Kwapich: where he'll just go to his guitarist and hum the lyrical the

Mandatory Music: then Geyser just here these words fit sing these that's pretty interesting but actually speaking of Geyser Butler his biggest influence is Geyser Butler and Bob Basley while Ronnie Ry Dio and Rob Halford are his biggest influences as vocalists.

Sebastian Kwapich: Yeah, that makes sense.

Mandatory Music: Now that he says Ronnie, I get it because he kind of has that Ronnie.

Sebastian Kwapich: We're on a deal.

Mandatory Music: He's got that Dio kind of Okay.

Sebastian Kwapich: Yeah. Yeah.

Mandatory Music: Okay, that makes total sense. he also stated he listens to a wide array of music ranging from the really sensitive stuff to a lot of hard stuff. Whatever that means. That could mean anything. I mean, you can listen to Taylor Swift all the way to Metallica,…

Sebastian Kwapich: Speaking of which, shout out Taylor Swift ending her tour last night in Vancouver, BC. Tour is finally over after what,…

Mandatory Music: right? Yeah. Exactly. …

Sebastian Kwapich: two and a half years of touring on and…

Mandatory Music: I believe so.

Sebastian Kwapich: Pretty much now she's going to get married next.

Mandatory Music: That's going to be a hard comedown. I think it's a lot because her life I think she's my daughter because my daughter's a huge Swifty.

Sebastian Kwapich: Yep. Good luck.

Mandatory Music: We tried to get tickets. We couldn't even get through a ticket master. It just Yeah.

Sebastian Kwapich: Yeah. I mean,…

Mandatory Music: Right. It kept crashing.

Sebastian Kwapich: you could have got them.

Mandatory Music: So, no,…

Sebastian Kwapich: If you wanted to pay five, six grand for them, you could have got them.

Mandatory Music: I'm sorry.

Mandatory Music: I do not. but We're going off on a sidebar here. I love Marco, by the way, but we're going to talk Taylor Swift for a minute. she was able to on YouTube.

Sebastian Kwapich: It's related only…

Mandatory Music: Some guy was, I don't know, somehow streaming it, and it's on YouTube, so it ain't illegal. …

Sebastian Kwapich: 

Mandatory Music: yeah, exactly.

Sebastian Kwapich: If you stream it,…

Mandatory Music: So, we didn't do that.

Sebastian Kwapich: you're fine.

Mandatory Music: She just streamed it and she watched all three shows and a typical 13-year-old girl,…

Sebastian Kwapich: Yeah. Yeah.

Mandatory Music: she was just singing in her room and screaming and I thought it was the most amazing thing and she knew every lyric, everything. because I guess Taylor she has the set list is the same except for the surprise song part. So I don't know how many songs are included in the surprise song area of the show, but every night they were all three nights they were all different songs.

Mandatory Music: So, she got a very wide variety. just the surprise songs were different.

Sebastian Kwapich: Wait, did you do three different set lists or…

Sebastian Kwapich: just Okay,…

Mandatory Music: Everything else and…

Sebastian Kwapich: got a good point.

Mandatory Music: she wore the same outfit all three nights, too. Everything was the same. So, I'm assuming this could be hot off the press. Big news. If you're wearing the same clothes for three nights, chances are this is being recorded for either concert, film, or documentary. and then apparently, according to the Swifties out there,…

Mandatory Music: the cameras were much bigger and more robust than they had been on the whole tour. But yeah.

Sebastian Kwapich: and probably more of them.

Sebastian Kwapich: Yeah. You know what? They definitely will do some kind of footage of the last concert of the tour for sure.

Mandatory Music: Yeah. Sure.

Sebastian Kwapich: Yeah, that makes sense.

Mandatory Music: This tour was I know we're totally off track, but whatever. we're just having a conversation at this point.

Sebastian Kwapich: Yeah. Highest grossing tour of any artist ever.

Mandatory Music: It's literally the biggest tour. Not I don't know if it's ever, but she filled Well, there you go. So, it is.

Mandatory Music: She would fill stadiums of 80 to 100,000 people.

Sebastian Kwapich: It grossed over two billion dollars for her.

Sebastian Kwapich: Two billion. Yeah. Yeah.

Mandatory Music: She did Toronto Six straight nights.

Sebastian Kwapich: That's crazy.

Mandatory Music: That's insane.

Sebastian Kwapich: Yeah. Yeah.

Mandatory Music: So if 80,000 people, times that by six, you got four 480,000 people in six nights. That is nuts. Am I Yeah, my math's right. I think whatever. Don't math sometimes.

Sebastian Kwapich: And I'll guarantee you there's people that don't even live in the city that were coming to here to stay the weekend.

Mandatory Music: Absolutely. They're coming from all over the world where they couldn't get if they could afford it, they were going. Right. It's banan.

Sebastian Kwapich: So here's a interesting thing. If you factor in the economy and how many people it brings to the city just for those three nights,…

Mandatory Music: Mhm. Yep.

Sebastian Kwapich: I can't even imagine what hotel prices would have been over this weekend of downtown Vancouver.

Mandatory Music: Makes me regret not looking.

Sebastian Kwapich: 

Mandatory Music: I wish I looked just to see.

Sebastian Kwapich: They would probably be in the four five $600 a night range for sure,…

Mandatory Music: Yeah. probably more than that.

Sebastian Kwapich: So, yeah.

Mandatory Music: Yeah, more than that.

Sebastian Kwapich: So, we're going to move from artist to another relatable artist and talk about, everyone can relate to being an alien on Mars. So, that's me trying to be really creative in a segue.

Mandatory Music: Obviously, I'm pretty sure sometimes I think I might be from Mars or some other planet, but that's okay.

Sebastian Kwapich: It probably didn't work very well,…

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Mandatory Music: That was …

Sebastian Kwapich: but that's okay.

Mandatory Music: yeah, that was your segue. I'm sorry. I screwed it up.

Mandatory Music: But yeah, left on Mars, it's like a straightforward rock track.

Sebastian Kwapich: It is. And it's in 44 time, too. It's very standard.

Mandatory Music: Yep.

Sebastian Kwapich: There's nothing complicated, which is so unusual because when you listen to Nightw Wish, they do a lot of time shifts and stuff,

Mandatory Music: Yeah.

Sebastian Kwapich: They're very tulie in the way of they play with 68 time, and …

Mandatory Music: Yeah. Yep.

Sebastian Kwapich: it's just goes all over the place, So, have you listened to a lot of Taria at all or…

Mandatory Music: And it's straight down the middle it's a classic deal. song. No,…

Sebastian Kwapich: is this your kind of Okay.

Mandatory Music: it's No, I knew the name,…

Sebastian Kwapich: …

Mandatory Music: but I didn't listen to her and Nightw Wish or any of her solo stuff. Should I really

Sebastian Kwapich: here's the fascinating part. So, in my mind, the most popular Nightwish song is Ghost Love Score. And that is probably also one of the most reacted to songs on YouTube. And people cry when they hear it for the first time. But they listened to the Florianen version from Vakan in 2013,

Mandatory Music: Yep. …

Sebastian Kwapich: I believe, which was kind of like her first fora with I don't know if it was 2013. It was some then, but Tia is actually the one that recorded this on the album.

Mandatory Music: interesting. Okay.

Sebastian Kwapich: So she's the one that was the first one to do it, So do you have an opinion either way on her versus floor singing style? Because they are different.

Mandatory Music: I actually very different. I prefer Taria.

Sebastian Kwapich: So Tia is a much more sensitive, soulful singer.

Mandatory Music: Yeah. Yeah,…

Sebastian Kwapich: I think that Floransen on a skill level is much more accomplished with her ability in terms of her vocal range and different styles, whereas Taria is more sensual as a singer. So yeah.

Mandatory Music: I would definitely agree with that.

Sebastian Kwapich: So it depends what you're trying to achieve, right? I guess. But yeah, it's fascinating. it's astonishing. Stop using Yeah,…

Mandatory Music: Now you're going to start saying astonishing. We're gonna have to get thesaurus ready. Have it on a second screen going.

Mandatory Music: I'm gonna say this.

Sebastian Kwapich: I'm in full wonderment over here.

Mandatory Music: No, I'm gonna there you go.

Sebastian Kwapich: Hey, that's three different words I use.

Mandatory Music: There you go. That's amazing. yeah, I'm I am sure I prefer Taria's voice. I like that sensual voice over top of heavy music as opposed to a powerhouse female singer playing heavy music.

Sebastian Kwapich: Interesting. Okay. Yeah. Yeah.

Mandatory Music: I think

Sebastian Kwapich: That's the whole niche of symphonic metal is you have metal…

Mandatory Music: Yeah. Yes.

Sebastian Kwapich: but then you have this angelic sensitive voice over top of it. And Epica does that After Ever or I think they were called which is Flor's first band. Nightw Wish obviously does it as well.

Mandatory Music: Mhm. Yeah.

Sebastian Kwapich: Marco does it in a lot of his music. So yes,…

Mandatory Music: If you compare let's just say have you listened to Frozen Crown?

Sebastian Kwapich: I have. Yep. Yeah.

Mandatory Music: So their singer I don't know her name but fantastic singer. But her voice sort of they're more Iron Maiden than they are symphonic. So yeah.

Sebastian Kwapich: She's more like a female version of Bruce Dickinson than opera singer, which is what symphonic metal really doubles down on is this oporatic voice.

Mandatory Music: Yes. Yeah. Yeah. I'm listening to Beauty of the Beast right now and…

Sebastian Kwapich: Yeah. Yeah.

Mandatory Music: it's very oparadic. It's even more so than what floor does in night which currently snow. I prefer this way more.

Mandatory Music: This is this Mataria guy and…

Sebastian Kwapich: All you're a target enjoy I think she did like the first four albums,…

Mandatory Music: Maybe I'll go listen to her. She did what? One, two, how many records? One, two, three, four, four. There's four.

Sebastian Kwapich: five albums maybe with Nightw Wish.

Mandatory Music: Yeah. Then Yeah.

Sebastian Kwapich: …

Mandatory Music: Says she got kicked out in '05. So they had an album in 08.

Sebastian Kwapich: 

Mandatory Music: They beat her to the punch.

Sebastian Kwapich: They're like, what's the point of you staying if you're going to leave anyways? Why don't you just leave now?" So,…

Mandatory Music: Do you know why is that a convers Okay.

Sebastian Kwapich: I haven't really done any research.

Mandatory Music: We won't bother going there.

Sebastian Kwapich: Apparently from what I understand, it's like things started getting tense. I don't know why, but whether it's creative differences or…

Mandatory Music: Okay. Yeah.

Sebastian Kwapich: other stuff, I don't know. But the vibe wasn't there between them anymore.

Mandatory Music: Yeah, that happens. Okay.

Sebastian Kwapich: 

Mandatory Music: doesn't fit.

Sebastian Kwapich: where you get someone that's capable but something just doesn't work.

Mandatory Music: Yep. It just doesn't fit.

Sebastian Kwapich: So then they got rid of her and brought in Flora.

Mandatory Music: Yep. …

Sebastian Kwapich: And then I think Flor's first official concert was the Vakan festival that everyone reacts to on that Ghost Love and…

Mandatory Music: Yeah.

Sebastian Kwapich: she just blew everyone out of the water.

Mandatory Music: Talk about putting your feet to the fire,…

Sebastian Kwapich: Making a statement.

Mandatory Music: It's not like you're doing,…

Sebastian Kwapich: Just get in there.

Mandatory Music: hey, we're going to do a warm-up show in a club. Nope. Vaning.

Sebastian Kwapich: There you go.

Mandatory Music: This is gonna be 60.

Sebastian Kwapich: In front of 100,000 people. Let's go.

Mandatory Music: Yeah, no big deal. Go out and do it.

Sebastian Kwapich: You're in the big leagues now.

Mandatory Music: You're nervous? Too bad.

Sebastian Kwapich: Let's go.

Mandatory Music: That's pretty cool. I'll have to check out more Night Wish,…

Sebastian Kwapich: Yeah. Yeah,…

Mandatory Music: I think. But I think we've talked the song kind of enough.

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Sebastian Kwapich: it not a lot of different changing chord structures.

Mandatory Music: It's nothing comp. It's definitely not Night Wish and it's not complex.

Mandatory Music: It's like 80s do which the influence now that I read that now that I listen it's like there it's just yeah and…

Sebastian Kwapich: You got verse chorus, instrumental break, and then it choruses out. but it …

Mandatory Music: And I think that's amazing. I think it's totally fine.

Sebastian Kwapich: that's fine.

Mandatory Music: It doesn't have to be the most complicated.

Sebastian Kwapich: Yeah. Instead of three different guitar harmonies at the same time with a solo over top of it.

Mandatory Music: That's one thing with Iron Maiden. I wish sometimes they do more songs that are straightforward. Yes. And yeah,…

Sebastian Kwapich: And yeah.

Mandatory Music: …

Sebastian Kwapich: I had another point of that I was going to make.

Mandatory Music: yes. …

Sebastian Kwapich: the lyric writing for the song is very indicative of Iron Maiden lyrics.

Mandatory Music: yeah. Yeah.

Sebastian Kwapich: It seems like he wrote the lyrics and then they tried to make it fit into the song, which is…

Mandatory Music: Interesting. Yes.

Sebastian Kwapich: what Steve Harris does, because Steve Harris writes all these intricate lyrics,…

Mandatory Music: like how the melody is going to flow in the song.

Sebastian Kwapich: but I don't think he really pays a lot of attention to how it actually work lyrically. Yeah. And…

Mandatory Music: Yeah. Yeah.

Sebastian Kwapich: then Bruce is like, " boy, I got to fit this into this amount of time." Right.

Mandatory Music: So, you're giving me this manuscript and…

Mandatory Music: I have to fit this into this 8 minute really fast song. Great. Yeah.

Sebastian Kwapich: Yeah. …

Sebastian Kwapich: to me, the lyrics feel like it was written by someone that's not a prolific vocalist that I mean, Marco is a vocalist,…

Sebastian Kwapich: but it seems what I mean when I say it's like Iron Maiden lyrics. It's like this is…

Mandatory Music: Yeah. Abs.

Mandatory Music: Absolutely. And different even the song Powerlave is a Dickinson pen song and…

Sebastian Kwapich: what I want to say, so we're just going to have to figure out how to fit it into the vocal line here. Yeah. my god.

Mandatory Music: the lyrics fit seamlessly and then you let's bring the rhyme of the ancient mariner again.

Sebastian Kwapich: I have no idea…

Mandatory Music: It Yeah.

Sebastian Kwapich: how Bruce remembers the lyrics.

Mandatory Music: He's shoehorning a book into a song, right?

Sebastian Kwapich: Dude, Ryan H. Martner is four pages long of lyrics.

Mandatory Music: Yeah, right.

Sebastian Kwapich: I'm just like, how do you remember all these words?

Mandatory Music: I know. And I'm pretty sure he doesn't use teleprompterss either. it's astonishing actually.

Sebastian Kwapich: We can do something.

Mandatory Music: So, yeah, that's sort of our take going back to the Nightwish world. And I think maybe we'll do Century Child for fun, we'll give because this song Beauty of the Beast has been on for a long time and it's really good.

Sebastian Kwapich: Isn't it three parts in that song? It's like a part one,…

Mandatory Music: Yeah, I think so.

Sebastian Kwapich: part two, part three or something. Another thing with symphonic music is they're not shy to do 12 minute songs,…

Mandatory Music: It's 11 minutes long. It's a No,…

Sebastian Kwapich: 10 minute songs.

Mandatory Music: absolutely not.

Sebastian Kwapich: 

Mandatory Music: It's really like you say to showcase deep lyrics. This is more of the avenue with the symphonic and these types of songs than to have a 4-minute, straight up basically rock song about an alien on Mars. or maybe it's not an alien on Mar.

Sebastian Kwapich: what it is me up

Mandatory Music: Maybe isn't Mars or Mars is Earth and someone was just dropped somewhere and they just feel out of place and it's just someone trying to survive not being from where they're from.

Mandatory Music: Could be that, too. yeah, but I think that might be it for this episode. yeah.

Sebastian Kwapich: Not much else to say about it.

Sebastian Kwapich: Good song. I Enjoyed it.

Mandatory Music: And any Nightwish fan that hasn't heard go check it out. It's you YouTube,…

Sebastian Kwapich: Support Marco,…

Mandatory Music: Apple Music, Amazon, Spotify,…

Sebastian Kwapich: Yeah.

Mandatory Music: it's Everest. Look up Marco Heila and you will find it and you'll find his last record too which god is called I'm getting there I'm just a couple windows away. It's called Py of the Black Heart which was released in 2020 and Roses from the Deep will come out February 7th 2025…

Sebastian Kwapich: Fantastic name.

Mandatory Music: which is weird to say.

Mandatory Music: And did you know my friend that in 2025 it's going to make you feel old.

Sebastian Kwapich: Don't tell me. god.

Mandatory Music: We have been out of school for 30 years.

Sebastian Kwapich: I don't want to think about that.

Mandatory Music: That's okay. We're getting better with age. That's how I'm looking at them. As an older I get,…

Sebastian Kwapich: Yeah. …

Mandatory Music: the grayer I get, the better I don't worry.

Sebastian Kwapich: this is Sebastian signing out because he needs to go plug in his walker. No, I'm just kidding.

Mandatory Music: The girlfriend's out there ready to wheel you out in your chair into the living room so you can finish watching the Curious Case of Benjamin Button.

Sebastian Kwapich: Honey, I need you to tie my shoelaces. I can't handle Yeah, I have to finish watching that tonight.

Mandatory Music: Yes. Yeah.

Sebastian Kwapich: So, yeah,…

Mandatory Music: So, yeah, that. And like I said, we're on a new platform.

Mandatory Music: I don't even honestly know how it works. So, I hope not.

Sebastian Kwapich: shouldn't affect the end product, but it'll be new for us.

Mandatory Music: I Yeah,…

Sebastian Kwapich: …

Mandatory Music: I think it's the same but different, if you know what I mean. And now there are emojis flying across screen, clapping hands, thumbs up,…

Sebastian Kwapich: you can set different colors.

Mandatory Music: and party hats. there you go. I got to be inclusive,…

Mandatory Music: Seb. Is there green people? we can't have green.

Sebastian Kwapich: Yeah. No,…

Sebastian Kwapich: it's not.

Mandatory Music: The hell, that's not fair. yeah.

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Sebastian Kwapich: right, I'm done.

Mandatory Music: Anyways, and if you haven't seen Wicked,…

Sebastian Kwapich: I'm just trying to distract him now.

Mandatory Music: go see Wicked because my wife and daughter saw it and they said it was absolutely amazing.

Sebastian Kwapich: I actually heard it was pretty good.

Mandatory Music: Yeah, I've heard it's really good.

Sebastian Kwapich: Okay.

Mandatory Music: So, will I go see it in the theater? No. Will I watch it when it comes out? I just might actually.

Sebastian Kwapich: Yes. All right.

Mandatory Music: I Yeah, it's supposed to be really really good.

Mandatory Music: And I think I'd rather go see the play, but I think I'd get more out of it seeing the play, but whatever. That's Wicked and come to the little Pod Dunk town I live in. So, whatever. It's all good. yeah.

Sebastian Kwapich: Yeah. Off my giant forehead.

Mandatory Music: Next week, I have some ideas. I'm going to bounce them off Seb's head and see what he thinks. Not going to bounce them hard.

Sebastian Kwapich: 

Mandatory Music: I'm just going to just slight bounce.

Sebastian Kwapich: we'll do.

Mandatory Music: Yeah. Whatever sticks, we're going to do that. So, there'll be a number of different ideas rattling off his forehead, which is not nearly as large as mine because my forehead goes from the front all the way to the back.

Sebastian Kwapich: Mike doesn't have hair.

Mandatory Music: I have no anyways, that's the mandatory music for Monday, December 9th. I'm hoping to get this out tomorrow. So, yeah, we'll see you on the old flip side. Bye-bye.

Sebastian Kwapich: We'll see you next week. Bye.

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